YOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>340963321
FUCK YOU! STOP BEING EXCITED ABOUT SHIT!
That trailer looked great. Fucking VISOR is back
>>340963663
No it was just shown
>Class based
>>340963321
Too fucking bad it is a Overwatch clone.
No one asked for this
>>340963321
NOW WITH WAIFUS, SEE THROUGH WALLS AND CLASSES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
>Quake
Neat!
>With heroes
Oh.
I love all that cool gameplay
RIP OVERWATCH
>>340963321
wew lad another overwatch like game. When will it end?
>muh super special abilities
There goes an old classis. Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd, with super special press "X" to perform special move gameplay...
>>340963724
what..?
shut up cole
120hz confirmed, thank god.
>High performance is critial
So, another Quake 3 reskin coming?
>>340963321
More like Quake 3, not Quake 1.
Who /QuakeLive/ Here?
I havent played for about a year but im going to try this new shit.
Dont care if they change shit tb.h. Im ready for some fresh cancer.
PC ONLY
>120 FPS
UNLOCKED FRAME RATES
>FAST GAME PLAY
KILL YOURSELF OVERBABBIES
>>340963321
So this sounds like Overwatch .
PC ONLY
Oh wait it's class based.... fuck.
Quakewatch
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>"We don't lock our framerate to 60"
Neat but is this "announcement" worthy?
>>>>>>>"we lock it to 120 fps instead"
>esports
>literally quakewatch
why
>>340963819
GOOD! I hope it is. I also hope Diablo IV gets revealed and its an Overwatch clone too.
>unique attributes and abilities
STOP
literally why even bother with the quake license?
>old players will hate this shit
>the new overwatch/moba fags don't even know what quake is
>class based
>diverse skills
It's fucking TF2.
>wanting a MP after the shit that was doom MP
idiots
>>340963321
Sorry old man... not your Quake.
>>340964048
Rip quake. Blizzard unleashed their game first and Quake won't be out to combat it's popularity fast enough to matter.
Quake champions will be considered a rip off of Overwatch until it dies.
I'll probably give it a pass, honestly.
>>340964286
>UNLOCKED FRAME RATES
Why did he say 120 instead of 144 if it's unlocked?
>MOBA hero class system
Go fuck yourselves forever. I hope all of you burn in fucking hell.
>>340963845
>It's like Overwatch with muscular husbandos
>>340964492
Considering they were firing shots at overwatch then I'm pretty sure that's tick rate they're talking about.
PC only
as it should be
>>340964942
Don't forget waifus! Remember the waifus in the original? Like... the eyeball guy?
so they tried their elder scroll MMO, which failed, now they gonna try a card game (heartstone) and another arena shooter (overwatch)
What's next?
>>340963321
black fgc is the worst yooooo lmfao u salty
fuck off
>>340963321
>>340965213
>class based
let the consoles have it
>>340964128
>Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd
More like to compete with the recent moba-like FPS
>>340964680
Diablo wouldnt be a overwatch clone. It's a Blizzard ip.
Blizzard will release info on Overwatch characters in heroes of the storm.
>>340964826
D44M's mp was outsourced though
>>340963321
>characters
>abilities
I never asked for this.
>>340963321
why do you faggots hype over shit?
>>340963792
10/10
>that gay ribbon
I wonder, did he have to rush out to buy one or do they just have a stash of emergency activism ribbons?
>>340965219
Yeah but it's id. They fucking ARE arena shooters.
>>340965392
>Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd
don't involve halo with this shit...maybe halo 4
>>340965482
That's what the hol up was
>>340965219
Whatever they want... their fanbase will eat up and shit bethesda dumps out.
>class based
>no singleplayer
fuck you so hard, bethesda
>>340965217
There were some qts. Mynx, Hunter and the one female Anarki. And some gross girls like the fat chick
>>340965482
Neither. The shooting was planned and is all part of the global conspiracy to further push anti-gun and pro-LGBT agendas, all at the same time.
Open your eyes sheeple etc.
IT'S OVER
BETHESDA OFFICIAL WINS E3
>>340965881
CLASS BASED
I'm glad they're making all this MOBA trash with a cartoony aesthetic, it makes it easy to identify and avoid
>>340965881
are you implying this quake will be an arena fps
The more he talks about it. The shittier it sounds.
>>340965881
>classes with unique abilities
UT is good but they already fucked up Quake.
>>340965482
they might well have ran out for supplies to make them by hand
>>340963321
my dick got so fucking hard
its a moba you mongs
TODD SPOTTED
>PC exclusive Triple A FPS in 2016
What the hell happened?
>>340966025
I like the fat girl. Her backstory was top tier.
>class based
And it's already fucking ruined. I guarantee this will be casual trash, just like Overmeme.
If this surprised you then you're retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
IT'S HERE LADS
>literally Pixar Presents: Quake The Moba
Can't fucking believe this, what happened to video games? Are they really dead?
>>340964851
i can guarantee they only got the idea for quake champions after hearing about overwatch
>>340966025
>6'6''
Hot damn
i can't wait for all the shills to tell me that this is a real quake game
>no gameplay
what's the point
>>340966668
I wonder what the Doomguy's and Phobos' ultimate will be.Probably Berserker Pack.
>>340966461
It's gonna be f2p shit probably
>people thought that QL was the bottom of the barrel
>>340966949
Yep. thats what I meant.
>>340967213
not him but if they market it enough, people will buy
>>340967012
This is a real quake game
So they heard all the praise for doom bringing back the golden age of fps, and they decide to make fucking quake a moba?
As soon as I saw that guy charging I knew it was over
I guarantee you that if F2P ASS and SHITFAGGOTS were on consoles, they would dominate revenue streams, and even beat PC revenue. The only reason why PC is believed to be so profitable is because these games are largely exclusive to it. Consoles always have been more profitable than PC, and with more microtransaction based games heading to consoles, this will hold true again.
>>340967945
id soft is also developing this so i have hope
>>340967012
i think this looks like moba trash and i love doom 4
what now, bitch?
>>340963792
>>340968472
>champions
of course it's a fucking moba
>>340968730
i was more concerned with you implying the new doom is shit
it's really not
>>340963321
Fuck this shit. I had hopes before watching the trailer. I expected a true Quake sequel.
>>340966461
They shouldn't be using the only thing that's sacred.
>>340963845
I thought nothing could be a worse perversion of a shooter franchise than Halo with loadouts, but they did it, by god, they actually did it.
>quake is known for it's unique heroes
wat
>>340963321
>Starts out with Ranger
YESSSSSSS
>...and the other player characters from Q3A!
NO
FUCKS SAKE
>>340968067
>trying to defend microtransactions
It's like you hate gaming.
>ZERO ROCKET JUMPING IN THE TRAILER
FUCK THIS
>>340969225
Didn't Halo have loadouts at one point?
>>340969389
is that an actual quote
oh yes i remember the ranger and bitterman's classic lines like "HUH, HUH" and "GAAAH"
>>340969450
I was expecting Doomguy and Phobos.And Crash.
>Quake's legacy concludes with it becoming the game it was always meant to be: an Overwatch-style "hero shooter"
What a time to be alive
>>340969538
I never said I defended them, I was just saying that PC gaming being more profitable than console gaming is a myth held up only with microtransactions. If PC was so profitable, then they wouldn't focus exclusively on consoles.
>>340969450
Visor was in it, and he killed the pixie bitch and Ranger.
>>340963321
No singleplayer
Don't care.
So it's basically Overwatch with strafe jumping?
>>340969743
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
HAHAHAHHA
ENJOY BETHESQUAKE
instead of league of quakefaggots you could have gone with
1. pledged full mod support with a real map editor
2. story-light sp mode built around stopping a lovecraftian horror
3. quake 1 visual style
4. a variety of mp maps and standard game modes
5. mod distribution platform
>>340970403
>>340970062
Don't get me wrong, I loved Quake 3, but I'd much rather have a Quake 1 successor.
>>340970587
>implying it will have advanced movement
>>340970190
I kinda wanted a Quake 1 revival. Shub-Niggurath Lovecraft shit.
is there any gameplay? is this acutally quake or a Nudoom shit?
>>340970587
And rocket jumping
>>340965031
He didn't mention what "hertz" he was referring to, and he mentioned it in the same sentence as graphics.
What if all the different classes had the depth the quake 3 player character, but with different forms of movement and aim?
>>340971338
>implying it will have rocket jumping
You know, if you care so much, why not downvote the video into oblivion then? It's what the COD fans did with COD Infinite Warfare and what a lot of Might Number 9 fans did with the bad trailer. And of course the Ghost Busters trailer. Send them a message that you don't approve of this.
>>340971425
What if the world was made of pudding? Not gonna happen anon
>>340971390
Yeah but 120 hertz followed by saying "uncapped" framerate doesn't make any fucking sense at all, especially given that if they were talking about framerate I figure ID would be able to know it was 144hz
>>340971534
It'll have it. PC only.
Strafejumping is unlikely.
>a moba quake live/3
ew
>>340971595
Yeah that did a lot
>>340971815
anon, he's probably talking about the simulation tickrate
an uncapped framerate means you have interpolation
>>340971860
>It'll have it. PC only.
Those are some tall assumptions.
>>340963321
Its going to be just as bad as DOOM.
>>340972254
Yeah that's literally exactly what I'm telling the other guy.
>>340963321
Oh boy, a bastardized casual piece of shit, aimed at 13 year olds who never played the original games, just like Doom.
The only thing blizzard needs to kill this thing is announcing overwatch going f2p right at its release date
>quake is known for its unique heroes
>>340972176
Put it this way. If nothing's done, then people will just treat it as a loud minority getting mad and nothing more.
>>340972543
So best shooter of the year?
>QUAKE
YES
>CHARACTER-BASED
NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>340972478
Well let's not jump to any conclusions yet. Shit, weapons might be locked to characters or some other comparable insanity.
>>340970936
>q1 visual style
muh dick
>>340972698
Maybe the announcer thought that the character skins of Quake 3 were more than just mere skins
>>340972930
I was so hyped...why are we still here, just to suffer...
They literally had one job.
It should be illegal to not show gameplay footage.
>>340972698
>He did not even flinch while saying that in front of a live audience
Where does Bethesda find these people?
He should be in prison for that
At least it wasn't Quake 2/4.
I wanted Quake 1 though.
fuck you, i am hyped
its pc only, will be fast and maybe it will have mod support
>>340972884
The best disappointment of the year.
I wonder why /v/ insists that FPS games must never have unique characters for multiplayer. Like it's some scared rule that all arena shooters must be made a certain way or else it's shit. If MOBA wasn't a thing, I think it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it would now.
>>340972848
So exactly the same thing will happen either way? Wowzers.
>>340973670
Quake Snapmap.
>>340971815
>I figure ID would be able to know it was 144hz
Unless by "uncapped" they meant "not capped at 60" and instead capped at 120
>>340973823
snapmap has too little functionality
>>340969943
>bitterman
you mean Bruce Willis right?
>>340973670
its a team based shooter
it wont have mod support
>>340973670
They just announced map and weapon DLC for doom. Take a fucking guess if it will have mod support
>>340974007
That's the point, so they can sell the actual new maps to you.
>>340973823
snapmap and multiplayer on doom were outsourced by some retards who made call of duty ghosts, id focused on singleplayer. This quake will be multiplayer focused by id and has potential to be good. Soooo, mods. There is no way they will repeat the blunder that is snapmap
>>340973781
And then you wonder why SJWs walk all over you. (and in a way, they wonder why they never enact any real changes that benefit all of mankind). You don't fight for what you want. You just sit around and take it. How do you think DLC got as far as it did? Because you didn't care HARD enough to get rid of if. No one said getting what you want is easy. It takes vigilance.
>see quake announcement
>hype as fuck
>it's gonna have classes
just kill me already
>>340974007
I know. The 12 demon limit is murder.
>>340973485
Tim Willits has been with id since the 90s. He is credited as early as Doom 2.
>>340974310
SnapMap was outsourced to the developers/publishers of Please, Don't Touch Anything
>yfw its ASSFAGGOTS
>>340974130
so?
>>340974274
multiplayer and snapmap were outsourced.
>>340973975
If DooM 4 is any indication, it will have a cap of 200 FPS.
>CLASS BASED
Fuck you Bethesda
Fuck you so hard
>>340974354
>And then you wonder why SJWs walk all over you.
They don't walk all over me.
>>340973776
but WHY do shooters need unique characters? Why must everything be customized and personalized so every underage fuckwad can feel like the special snowflake they're always told they are?
Why can't everyone start off on equal footing and the most skilled player or cooperative team win? Why is that a sin so grave it must never even be mentioned in FPS discussion?
>>340974565
>multiplayer and snapmap were outsourced.
So they just accidentally announced that new map DLC that they accidentally made?
They don't want you to have mods because then they can't sell you garbage.
dudes games are made to appeal to normies and normie brains need to have "unique" different playstyles else its trash fuck this world
>>340974565
carmack claimed to work on snapmap, so at some point it was in-house
>>340974310
Carmack made Snapmap before he left id to go work for Facebook.
Now what happened after he left, I don't know.
>>340974481
Then he should have quit his job when Bethesda forced him to do this then.
Bethesda is raping everything holy about FPS games.
>>340974757
stop replying to bait
>>340974354
>How do you think DLC got as far as it did?
The vast majority of people who don't know any better went ahead and supported it, while everyone against it was left in the dust regardless of how much they fought against it due to the fact that they were a minority?
>>340974757
because thats how you get a dead game with no influx of new players and only a few jaded veterans who havent yet moved on with their lives. You can lure in new players with pretty characters and make actual hardcore players stay with good gameplay.
>>340974774
they also have 2 games with some biggest modding communities around, Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
>>340975003
The problem is that there are actually people on /v/ that truly believe that. Take a look at any of the 20 Overwatch threads going on at once for more proof than you'd need in two lifetimes.
>>340968524
THE TURKEY'S A LITTLE DRY
>casual class-based shooter that'll compensate for new players by being easy
I'll pick up the console version sometime I guess
>>340974565
its designed and made for "balanced" gameplay, probably with esports in mind. they are not gonna allow mods
>>340974354
I fought against it and it still happened anyway. Clearly there's something wrong with your method.
>>340963321
>340963321
well I saw the rocket launcher model from Q3 and Visor, who always was one of my favourites
a class based shooter though? goddamnit
>>340975239
>what is cs:go
>what is dota 2
Will laugh my ass off if it has play of the game
>>340975290
You should have downboated more youtube videos.
But, seriously, people sell things people want to people willing to buy them. There's no "fighting" that.
>>340974757
I was more referring to unique character selection like in a fighting game, but with a deathmatch setting in first person. I swear to god I blame MOBAS for making this idea inherently poison because MOBAs got too popular.
Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with what you described either, but there's nothing inherently wrong with unique characters too. Balancing would be a challenge either way.
>>340966461
> multiplayer only
big whoop
>>340975147
>You can lure in new players with pretty characters and make actual hardcore players stay with good gameplay.
But those are mutually exclusive, you can't have both. Case in point, Overwatch. So many threads are filled with actual good players about to drop the game because they are so frustrated with the 'muh speshul snowflake personal character that represents ME that I must always play' faggots are ruining the game for them by not playing intelligently.
>>340971595
if only they started an internet petition! THAT would have should them the error of their ways!!
>>340975408
thats valve and the source engine, every source game has some dumb modding scene with loads of crap because the engine is moddable by default
>>340975534
Actually all the good players are dropping the game because it's a poorly balanced technical mess with terrible maps.
>>340975534
lol the characters arent turning off players its shitty low skillcap appeal to normie gameplay
>>340971125
LITERALLY EVERYONE WANTED THIS
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE QUAKE FAN WHO DIDN'T WANT ELDRICH
>>340975534
>implying hardcore players would play a team based shooter in pubs
overwatch has shit tickrate, lies about fov and pretty much is made by people who dont know jack shit about online fps games, thats why hardcore players leave
also
>actual good players
>on /v/
>>340974757
>but WHY do shooters need unique characters?
Because it gives variety
if you have 10 different classes you have 10 different ways to play, and each class needs to play in 10 different ways depending on what class you're currently fighting
singleplayer games figured out that enemy rosters are more fun than just one type of enemy back in like 1980
>Class based
>More info in the coming months
I was hyped, but now I'm dubious
>>340975534
Overwatch's problem has more to do with balancing, lack of map variety and the hard counter system. Because right now, that's a real issue. What you describe is bad players being obnoxious and that's been a problem since you've been able to play online.
>>340975896
dont forget the 50% win rate meme
>>340975927
You don't need variety if the gameplay is good enough.
Or, what if they were just clever and made lots of different gamemodes? Or let a modding community do the work for them?Oh wait, I'm describing quake 3.
>>340975828
>>340975829
>>340975896
So what you're saying is that it's completely impossible to have a skill-based character-driven FPS in this day and age, and any attempt to try and do so will be a colossal failure?
>BOOHOO CLASS BASED
Did you fags not play Quake Wars?
>>340976116
>What you describe is bad players being obnoxious and that's been a problem since you've been able to play online.
Yes but in most games you could be good enough to make up for it, not OW.
>>340976182
No, its just Overwatch is a shitty execution of a pretty solid idea.
>>340975896
Hardcore players are still playing, at least the quake ones are.
Then again, Quakelive is pretty dead, so it's not like they have much choice. I can almost feel their hatred for the game as they play it.
>>340975534
If they were good or smart in the first place they'd never would have supported blizzard by not buying the watered down casual trash that is Overwatch.
Vote with your wallet you dumb cunts.
>>340976178desu I find deathmatch shooters repetitive
>>340976287
No one did, splash damage employee.
I was expecting blasphemous eldritch horrors with on my monitor. I feel grief.
>>340976356
But it's apparently impossible to execute the 'good idea' well. Wouldn't that make it an idealized pipe dream that can't be achieved?
>WHAT QUAKE IS KNOWN FOR: A DIVERSE CAST OF UNIQUE HEROES WITH DIFFERING ATTRIBUTES AND ABILITIES
IM SO FUCKING MAD
HOLY SHIT FUCKING WHY
IM GONNA FUCKING GO TO BETHESDA OFFICES AND SHIT ON EVERYONE'S DESK
THEY'RE LITERALLY SHITTING ALL OVER THE HOLY GRAIL OF COMPETITIVE GAMING
>>340976356
Nice opinion /v/ drone. Overwatch is a great FPS game with large skill gaps and fun. Just wait when ranked comes out and you'll see how bad you are. Even the Quake Overwatch team "Still Here" can't place first with their years of FPS experience.
>>340976182
No. It is entirely possible to make that a reality. Overwatch just isn't that. In fact, you'd be singing a different tune if the new Quake turned out to be "Like Overwatch, except with actual skill required"
>>340976751
>if blizzard failed then no one can do it
TF2 did it pretty well back in the day, but it hopped on e-sport train too early and became a hatfest.
>>340976793
dont worry, denial phase doesnt last too long.
>>340976793
fun is a buzzword that doesn't actually mean anything. You shouldn't use it when describing a game, it shows you have no argument and are grasping at straws in a vain attempt to defend your position.
>>340976751
Wasn't team fortress classic supposed to be good and skill-based?
>>340976182
No, we're saying that overwatch sucks.
>>340976751
So you'd rather they don't try and just remake Quake 3 again?
Because that worked so well with Quake 4 and Quake Live.
So the boogeyman finally came to ruin the last good id franchise
I'll be on quake live
>>340977051
>you'd
>if
I'm glad we're in agreement that this has flopped before it has even come out.
>>340977250
I also like how Overwatch drones have come in here to make this thread about their game.
>DID I MENTION OVERWATCH IS A GREAT GAME AND YOU SHOULD BE PLAYING IT?
>>340977148
Not that anon, team fortress and tf classic both had same problem : few people played them.
>>340977939
team fortress was a popular mod
>>340977465
I'd rather they take what made Quake 3 legendary and give it an overhaul with a few updates and a bunch of new weapons, rather than taking a totally different type of game and slapping Quake on it to get gullible retards who know of the legend that at one point there was this really good game called Quake all those years ago and this will surely be the same thing, revived in modern form and they want to be a part of it.
>tfw neo-id will never make an awesomely chilling survival horror-style reboot of single player Quake because the BR0TAL H4RDC0R3 OLD-SKEWL MAYHEM FRAGFEST crowd has drowned out the game's initial legacy for decades
Quake II was the best Quake.
>remember when a good Quake game was adopted by /v/
nope
>>340978121
kys my man
>"Why didn't I just stay home and have sex with some trannies while playing Overwatch?"
>>340978121
The ironic thing is that Quake 1 managed to do both of those things.
Somebody make a quake III server so I can cry with you
>>340977093
>>340977087
>wah im a negative faggot and shit at Overwatch
Casuals shouldn't have an opinion on FPS games
Did they actually
FUCKING
TURN
QUAKE
INTO AN CLASS BASED SHOOTER?!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>class+ability based
Burn in hell bethesda.
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
>>340963321
WHY WON'T THEY RELEASE ON CONSOLES?? EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT.
SELFISH FUCKS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>mfw fast paced
I'm fucking mad /v/.
Quake is the only game I have ever truly enjoyed. I played Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, CPM, spinoffs like warsow and similar arena shooters like painkiller (UT is trash), Quake 4, Quakelive and basically nothing else (to any serious degree) for more than a decade.
The more competitive minded people all hopped games to play things like Shootmania, Overwatch, etc. This has made it impossible to play pickups (sitting at just under a month since the last CPM pickup, before that we went 4-5 months). They had a tiny chance to finally unify the spread out as shit arena fps community under the one banner everyone recognizes as the superior series, and they give us this bullshit late to the party overwatch hero fps cancer. I'm fucking done with id. Fuck video games. Please reply "you mad" all you want.
hopefully unique classes are just different skins with different weapons.they wont have overwatch abilites. r-right?
>>340978089
>I'd rather they take what made Quake 3 legendary and give it an overhaul with a few updates and a bunch of new weapons
the quake 3 weapon set was basically as close to geometric perfection as possible, if you just added some new weapons and shit like wall-jumping you'd just get a downgrade from quake and all the oldfags would still complain
![93ec69be7c2cf024f1cd5aa1820ef6e6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yQvygPi.jpg "93ec69be7c2cf024f1cd5aa1820ef6e6[1].jpg")
>>340978543
The madman
>>340977465
Quake 4 flopped because they screwed up the movement mechanics. Quake Live was a huge success considering how hard and frequently they've jerked around the fanbase since 2009.
>Started out as F2P embedded in your browser (which just seemed hokey and gimmicky)
>moved to stand-alone
>deleted all accounts and became subscription based
>moved to steam
>deleted all accounts again
>removed subscriptions, made the game $10 to play
>FINALLY in 2016 added the ability to mod and have dedicated servers which should have been there from the day the moved to stand-alone.
Yet there are STILL plenty of full CA and duel servers every time I log in.
>>340978732
you madI am too
>>340978121
It's not too late, the Doom team has proven themselves more than capable of doing it.
>>340978930
The map was campgrounds
>>340978778
Press 'Q' to kill 4 people.
>>340978868
>Quake of the Ancients
The new rail looks AWFUL
>>340978535
enjoy you console shooter, it has a few months to live
>>340978732
>tfw Serious Sam 4 saves arena shooters
Can a man believe?
>tfw no new Quake single player game using the original aesthetic and monsters
I hate multiplayer bullshit. Cancer, all of it.
>no strafing
>no bunny hopping
>no rocket jumping
I'm going to end my life, Quake was my childhood and now I'm going to see it raped.
>hero w/ ability-based gameplay
pic related did it right long before FPS-mobas were a thing but I'd still very much prefer a straightforward shooter Quake.
>>340979326
Quake 2 raped Quake
Strogg fags pls go
> quake champions
Oh, so like quake 3 multiplayer , cool, quake murders overwatch in its infancy
> ..with heros
> mfw
>we want you to find a champion to works to your playstyle
>we'll have lots of champions that do lots of different things
It's over.
>>340979483
captures my feelings pretty well too
>>340963792
>>340964447
>>340964765
>>340964814
>>340965390
>>340965412
>>340965932
>>340966219
>>340966668
>>340974386
>>340974667
>>340975376
>>340976021
>>340978543
>>340978551
You do realize Quake was the originator of class-based shooters, right?
