>There will never, EVER, be a game as good as Xenoblade Chronicles X for the Wii U
How does it feel /v/?
>tfw I fell for the hype and preordered the CE
>it ended up being one of the most boring JRPGs I've played in years
>cast is almost entirely forgettable and not even on the level of Riki much less Shulk or Melia
Fuck X and fuck Monolith for aping the West so badly.
Open-world is a pox on gaming.
>>340942189
Good.
I was able to resell my copy for $45 so I guess I made it out alright.
>>340942189
Was there ever an un-NoA version?
>>340942551
>>340942189
Actually, there was a game that was better. It's called Xenoblade Chronicles for the Wii.
>>340942189
>Love Xenoblade
>Want to play Xenoblade X
>Is the only Wii U game, besides Bayo2, that remotely interest me
>Also, is fucking censored
I hope the NX turns out to be good or at least decent and somehow, Nintendo ports this game.
X is fucking garbage and it has one of the most pathetic CE ever conceived.
Easily has one of the worst videogame soundtracks ever conceived, but it's no surprise considering it was done by a complete hack.
>>340945118
And for the New 3DS.
fuck everyone in this thread X was GOAT
Game was really good for ~60 hours, then I just beat it and got to mid 50 really fast thanks to skells and just gave up.
The music gets very tired also.
>>340942551
>have the original
>have a wii
>have a crt
>never played it
>continue to not play it
Maybe someday I'll be less tired.
I love Elma
>>340945625
try emulating it if you can with the HD texture pack. It does the world justice but the character faces still look flat.
>>340942189
Only good thing from X was the engine. Nothing else was that great except a few songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPH4YkFqDHkThis entire scene pretty much felt like XBC
>>340946109
Why is there so little porn of her?
>>340946658
hentai artists didn't play the game.
Same reason why most of them didn't play XC.
In all honesty most of the people complaining about X were mostly people who only played the original XC and clinged on to it too much. Most of the people that played previous Xeno games were pretty much fine with X or less vocal about it.
>>340945162
>Also, is fucking censored
Bikini is only censored for the loli, but it's still there. And the titty slider is stuck at cowtit size, so it's not much of a loss. As far as Treehouse censorshit goes, it wasn't that harsh.
>Potato will never cook for you
Why live?
>>340947962
it removed a lot of religious tones which is what xeno games are based off of.
>>340942189
>Xenoblade X
>good
pick one
>>340949892
source?
>>340949892
hardly.
>>340950230
>>340949892
God is a crock.
>>340942551
X is better in nearly every way.
>>340950187
Blade went from "Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipator" to "Builders of the Legacy After the Destruction of Earth"
Testement division was changed to reclaimer
Also I came to agree with Alex in regards to the Napon. They're the Jews of Mira.
>>340951016
Except XBC blows the water out of XBCX in Characters and Music, while it beats out XBCX in Story and Setting.
It was more fun to explore Mira and Skell Combat was satisfying though.
>>340942551
>he bought an open world game with a focus on exploration and expected a story focused jrpg
That's on you, pard. Lao was fucking great though, and most of the affinity missions were good too.
>Game ends on a cliffhanger and raises more questions than it answers
I fucking hate this
That said the game was excellent, although skell combat was a bit shitty
>>340951072
that's not censorship, the actual "meaning" of BLADE makes absolutely no sense, it's pretentious bullshit, the explanation for why skells are named dolls and what blade "means" is in the short stories, they are worth the read
>>340942551
Shulk is your generic shonen anime protagonist.
Melia is your generic shonen punching bag second rate-waifu who's in every anime ever and gets completely shit on and never wins
Riki's your generic shonen mascot character
I'm not defending X's characters by any means but pretending the original's characters were great is a lie and you know it.I miss Dunban but I love me some Nagi
>>340952057
>nagi
literally best xeno husbando
>>340942189
X2 when?
>>340942551
Shit taste.
>>340942189
This was the WiiUs best game? No wonder this shit is dying
>>340942189
I got bored and stopped playing after the first day
>>340952540
>>340952701
t. people who never played it
>>340952540
There were a few other great games but /v/ dismisses them automatically
Wonderful 101: Too hard
Hyrule Warriors: Dynasty Warriors clone
MK8: Mario Kart Rehash
>>340952891
I did play it though I just didn't like it so I didn't keep playing it
>>340953012
I loved all of these
>>340953012
>few others
There are at least two dozen good Wii U games.
We can't discuss one here.
>>340951072
BLADE and the division names were changed because they were all originally gratuitous engrish that the devs picked because they sounded cool to people who don't understand English, and sound retarded to people who do.
All the religious references in the story and dialogue itself is all still there, they didn't censor a thing. The only censorship X had was NoA stepping in to force them to cover up Lin and some of the underwear.
>>340951286
X had a far better setting, more likeable characters, and better music. XBC had a better story but only slightly, and it was still awful and was far more intrusive.
>>340942189
Almost every other Wii U game is better, Xenoblade X is one of the least fun games I ever played. I fell for it because I thought the setting was cool but the battle system made me drop it within an hour. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? The music was fucking awful too.
>>340955306
>Xenoblade X is one of the least fun games
No.
>>340955356
What an argument
Counterpoint: Yes.
>>340955306
Translation: You were too stupid/impatient to figure the combat out and wrote it off as bad.
why was X's soundtrack sogood?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6sm6Zld3nE
>>340942189
If they can manage to merge the best parts of both games and improve on a few things it could honestly be my ideal game
>Giant alien world to explore
>Cool Mech piloting and combat
>Awesome main cast like XC
>lots of side stuff to get invested in like XCX
>tighter main story, longer with no corners cut
>A protagonist that actually talks
>playable characters are diverse and each bring something to the table, no bullshit class system
>an actual ending
Make it happen Nintendo
>>340955878
I feel that X's soundtrack is very reminiscent of Mitsuda's style at parts. The Xeno series never felt right without Mitsuda composing the soundtrack in the first place though.
1:38 is bliss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIDn1dfa8Ic
feels bad man
at least we're getting a new xeno on NX
>>340956629
>>340956168
>>A protagonist that actually talks
This one I entirely disagree with. I don't know why JRPG fans are so fixated on set protagonists, I liked how X handled the MC (not to mention, most of the sidequest wouldn't have been nearly as engrossing if your main character made a retarded statement about them every two lines).
I'd rather have a customizable self-insert over a retard like Shulk or Shion.
>>340956168
>A protagonist that actually talks
Then we get no create a character, fuck that.
>playable characters are diverse and each bring something to the table, no bullshit class system
I prefer a class system opened up for the protag, games need more of that, like old rpgs used to be
>>340957120
>This one I entirely disagree with. I don't know why JRPG fans are so fixated on set protagonists
Because JRPGs aren't about the player making a self insert, unlike WPRGs. They're largely about telling a story centralizing around a specific character and/or the party.
That said, I wouldn't mind Xenoblade X's quiet protagonist if he at least spoke whenever you selected a dialogue option.
>>340952057
> the original's characters were great
They were.
>BUT THEY FIT ARCHETYPES COMMONLY FOUND IN STORIES
and? You need to spend some time off 4chan when you think "generic" is bad.
>>340957120
probably because Shulk was a great protagonist, and his actions and interactions with the cast carry more weight because its set in stone. I wouldnt have minded being pigionholded with my custom MC, Lin, and Elma being on every mission if my guy actually talked and interacted in a way that meant something. You cant even come close to pleasing everyone unless you become wishy washy like they where in XCX, and the narrative was weaker for it. In a story heavy series like Xenoblade having the main character be concrete is a much better option.
>>340957130
they could always have a customizable party member for use in the story and online play. Maybe a Mim with no real body. I dont think having a million self inserts is better then one hand crafted concrete protagonist. And the class system was bullshit, it homogenized everything for your party when all that separated them where two skills and their weapon loadout.
>>340957607
>a japanese role playing game shouldn't have any role playing self insert.
>>340957607
>Because JRPGs aren't about the player making a self insert, unlike WPRGs
This is entirely untrue, there are a lot of JRPGs with mute self-insert protagonists. I don't see how variety and a deviation from what you wrongly perceive to be the entire genre is a bad thing, tastes aside. X didn't do it as well as it could, sidequests aside, but if anything the idea deserves a second chance.
Also, a voice entirely ruins the purpose and meaning behind a silent protagonist, so no, that'd be absolutely retarded. Shepard was retarded. Bioware's newer games with voiced pseudo self inserts are retarded. You're retarded.
>>340942189
But Xenoblade Chronicles was better than Xenoblade chronicles.
>>340955272
>better music
You're fucking delusional f.am.
>>340958810
Your delusional. Xenoblade chronicles was way better then Xenoblade Chronicles
XCX's sidequests and affinityquests were 9 billion percent better than the actual core game.
>>340949892
Damn dude this meme is still going strong. If you played the game maybe you could've gotten to play the sidequest with the religious cult that poisons people.
>>340958413
>probably because Shulk was a great protagonist
I'm sorry, but no- I disagree. Regardless, the actual flaw in X's execution of the voiceless amnesiac protagonist hero was that you didn't get enough choice when it came to dialogue options and interactions, mostly due to budget constrains because accounting for all of those in a voice acted game ends up with a large bill.
The main quests needed choices, but they weren't there. Regardless, personal tastes, dude. I'd still much rather have a customizable MC, at least X actually felt like a personal adventure outside of the main quest.
>>340958627
>Also, a voice entirely ruins the purpose and meaning behind a silent protagonist, so no,
Well, the MC in X actually did talk, they had entire lines and personalities in combat, and it was odd how they were plenty talkative in battle and then suddenly silent everywhere else.
Personally I prefer customizable silent protags, but if you can't actually pull them off well then you're better served just making an actual character. X handled it pretty well but it could have been better, when your self-insert feels like he's just along for the ride with the real heroes then you're usually just dragging the story down.
>>340942551
rikki was great though.
but yeah, hopefully in the third it won't try so hard to be like wrpgs.
>>340958096
I never implied generic was bad, though. But Xenoblade's characters were hardly great considering they fit the mold for the average fantasy shonen anime cast. They may seem neat as JRPG characters, but they're less impressive if you watch moonrune cartoon and realize that they're just generic characters written very well.
Shulk's your archetypal weak, but clever protagonist with your given childhood girlfriend, a strong clumsy best friend who's who's always looking out for him, has a cool rolemodel to look up to, an old mentor, lost his parents when he was too young to remember them and is somehowthe chosen one, or at least led on to be the chosen one. Then the big bad guys who were thought to have been killed years ago by the rolemodel invades, kills the MC's beloved which sets him out on a revenge quest.
It's a generic fantasy shonen plot written well, but not greatly. Each character just fit a stereotype and never really evolved from it, save for Shulk who went from "REVENGE" to "I NEED TO FIND OUT MORE", which is a common character progression in almost any sort of writing.
And after a certain point, the plot just revolved around Fiora and Shulk with the occasional "Let's shit on Melia for the hundredth time". Everybody else in the party was just there for the sake of being there after that point.
>>340960249
>Everybody else in the party was just there for the sake of being there after that point.
Except for that whole thing about their entire way of life and everyone they know and love being in danger?
>>340960249
>using demographic as a derogatory
You are an idiot.
>written very well.
That's all that matters.
Not reading the rest of your idiocy. Go outside for a little while.
>>340946862
I'll bite. Xenoblade was one of my favorite games I've played in a long time. I really liked X, the music didn't even bother me too much; but goddamn what happened with the plot? It went so slow for 3/4 of the game, then ended on a cliffhanger. And the biggest problem with it was how much it got sped up at the end. Usually when JRPGs have crazy plots like X did, it's reasonable to digest because they have good pacing.
>>340961194
>Except for that whole thing about their entire way of life and everyone they know and love being in danger?
Of course they were, but throughout the whole Mechonis arc and everything afterwards the focus just shifted to Shulk and Fiora while the other characters were just there for the sake of being support. The only semblance of other characters actually being significant in the over-all picture was the whole Reyn, Sharla, and Gadolt love triangle which was only vaguely touched upon in a few cutscenes outside of heart to hearts, and then the whole "Melia is suffering". Melia's entire character type is a popular trope in JRPGs, manga and anime; she's just there to suffer and grows strong from suffering, but never really wins and ends up being alone in the end without a real happy ending. The japanese eat this character archetype up a lot actually, which is why Melia's so popular in fanart.
>>340961659
Boohoo.
>>340960249
The story was ok until prison island and good between prison island and mechonis core. After Meyneth dies it just shits itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg2ufgZVWL4
This pretty much shows that you can take cliche characters and still have a decent story
>>340962475
story was rewritten 50% of the way in development, L and celica had bigger roles
>mfw majority of XC1 babies who complain about XCX's story haven't even played xenogears
>>340962901
this
melia is literally a clone of the billions of other shy anime girls with white hair and regal clothing
>>340964248
xc1 brought in all of the shonentards who wanted to play as "le really feelin it" meme man and never touched a single xeno game beforehand
xcx was made for people who liked the themes of previous xeno games.
>>340964248
Xenogears is a piece of fanfiction tier garbage.
>>340942189
>single player MMO
LOL you just got checked for shit taste son. what an awful chore of a game. im not exaggerating either, there's a literal checklist in the game. see, grownups like me have real obligations with consequences for not just me, but the other people in my life. there's productive shit to do too. ive got books to read, instruments to play...enriching and meaningful things in my life . this games only place is for manchildren who exclusively fill their time with busywork so they can feel meaningful for once in their pudgy lives.
>>340965382
fanfiction of what?
>>340947962
Don't forget: no fun(doshi) allowed
>>340964248
>xenogears will never be remade
>>340966895
soon
Im holding out, even if it's on a handheld
>>340952057
>generic shonen anime
This is a generic comment, fuck off
>>340964905
>xc1 brought in all of the shonentards who wanted to play as "le really feelin it" meme man and never touched a single xeno game beforehand
Nice projection, because people never played Xenoblade before hand right?
>>340942189
>tfw really loved Xenogears and Xenosaga
>thought Xenoblade's giant shift in tone, setting, storytelling and themes were a massive let down
>really enjoyed X returning to a similar style as the first two
also what >>340956463 said. i unironically think X had a better soundtrack than chronicles only because of the mitsuda-esque throwbacks. the xenosaga trilogy still has the best music though
Things XCX did better:
Player movements
Level design
Sidequests (including affinity quests)
Customization
Inventory
Freedom
Most of the combat
Things XC did better:
Setting
Main story
Characters
Chain attacks > overdrive
Things both excelled at:
Being incredibly fun RPGs with lots of great ideasMusic
>>340945118
Forgot to download that on wii u.
>>340968391
do you even know what projection means or do you just parrot memes and buzzwords without context like a retarded fuck?
>before hand
before what? "really feeling it" has been memed long before shulk got into sm4sh.
>>340969334
>chain attacks > overdrive
how can one person be this wrong?
agreed otherwise
>>340970735
because it requires no skill
Best Wii U game and one of their top ten best console games ever. Fucking fight me.
>>340970829
Neither did chain attacks, though. Chain attacks were ridiculously easy to wrack up damage or topple locking.
>>340966249
>Hito no yo ni! ("In the world of men" but translated as "Born in a world of strife!" in the dub)
>something about building dead corpses?
>no clue
>Kakutou arts ga yukou yo! (USE MELEE ATTACKS"
Any idea what the other two are saying?
its so far the best rpg game on wii u
ill give you that
that isnt saying much though
and for an rpg, it had a shit story
>>340971310
that's what i'm talking about...
I've been considering getting a N3DS just to get XC3D and Hyrule Warriors Legends. Is it worth it?
>>340970829
chain attacks take less skill and are more broken because topple locking is far easier to do than infinite overdrive due to stuff like knockdown the enemy can do
>>340970735
The problem with overdrive is the fucking music and arts voices drowning out all other battle themes. Once you get infinite overdrive and start grinding tyrants and materials it gets more annoying than OVER THE RAINBOW GLORIOUS LIGHT.
I could barely listen to the final boss theme or anything for that matter.
Who thought that was a good id-- Wait, X has a lot of annoying problems like this.
Xenoblade Chronicles X is my GOTY 2015. It was almost perfect. I only have a couple of gripes, and most of them were minor. World Building > story.Best JRPG ost ever. Only 2 bad songs, and tons of amazing 9/10 and 10/10 songs
>>340972765
wir fliegen is one of the best battle themes in the series, shame the second part doesn't play in game
I do agree that it shouldn't have overridden some bosses like ares and final
>>340973237
It might be the best but just because it's good doesn't mean it should replace every other theme. It gets tired.
>>340972859
I agree, the two songs I really didn't like were NLA night and in the forest
I hated the music that plays when you do the defian fight in ganglion atropolis at first but it grew on me
>>340969474
Your comment makes zero sense, nobody started playing the "le really feeling it meme man" thing till after Smash. People latched on to Xenoblade because of the hype. And it wasn't even a huge meme till the Sm4sh trailer.
>>340972859
Are you me? This is my exact same opinion on the game.
>>340972040
If those are the only two games you want, you might as well buy a Wii U and get the VC version of Xenoblade and the superior version of Hyrule Warriors.
>>340973705
Well I also have MH4U, Sm4sh3D, and MM3D and those all work better on N3DS.
Plus I already had a Wii U. Hated it outside of XCX, Bayonetta, and 3D World.
>>340942189
I'm just waiting for the next one. Sequel or not, perfect or not, Xenoblade games are pretty much made for me.
In the mean time:
https://frontiernav.jahed.io/
What's the best XCX track and why is itMelancholia?
>>340942189
This and rocket league were my gotys. Xenoblade is fucking amazing
>>340973460
This. Some take a while to grow on you, but there are some I took to right away.
Especially Oblivia. Xenoblade Chronicles X is the first game that I actually had fun in the desert level. This is the one and only single game that made me want to go back to the desert level. How the fuck?
>>340973645
I just don't get the hate for the game. Nothing was egregiously bad. Sure, it was different, but it was a good kind of different. A fresh new take on the modern JRPG.
>>340972859
I unironically think Xenoblade Chronicles X is a contender for top 5 JRPGs of all time and one of the few examples of JRPGs that excel without having too much of a focus on plot.
The plot isn't outstanding but it isn't bad by any means.
>>340942189
Inferior to the original Xenoblade.
Fucking lame story, characters, the battle mechanics actually got worse in some ways (while better in others), Skells are terrible aside from the cool factor, and farming out the ass.
>>340974309
THEMEX is my favourite. It really should've been the title screen theme after you beat the story. It don't remember it even playing in-game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUw4Hzex0M
>>340942551
I don't understand how anyone can hate Riki after the beach part
>>340973475
>And it wasn't even a huge meme till the Sm4sh trailer.
It's one of the most quoted lines in the game along with "It's Reyn time", and "Born in a World of Strife". Go be dumb elsewhere.
>>340974548
>Especially Oblivia. Xenoblade Chronicles X is the first game that I actually had fun in the desert level. This is the one and only single game that made me want to go back to the desert level. How the fuck?
Because Obliviasn't the desert level, it's badlands. The desert level is Sylvalum, which is disguised as an ice level but has no bodies of water besides a lake shallower than a gnat's vagina and no rainfall at all. Sylvalum is awfulness camouflaged as cancer that plays like the video game equivalent of a cookie that's burn on the outer edges and all mushy in the middle.
Normally I hate people who say that the setting of something is the real main character, but holy fuck was Mira the most interesting thing about the game.
>>340974638
I think it's definitely up there, maybe even top 5. Top 10 definitely, though. It's so good at world building, which is far more important than story.
>>340975017
Antarctica is a desert. Deserts don't have to be sandy.
>>340975073
Are there two NLAs on there? The fuck?
>>340949892
>change BLADE's meaning
>literally the only change
>hurr all religious tones are gone
>>340974991
I said huge meme for a reason. Fucking retard.
>>340975073
I hate the concept art books. All that cut content.
>>340975017
I know that. Oblivia has a desert in it, but the most of it is canyons/badlands. Sylvalum is alright, though. Turned out to be the weakest of the continents.I'm the one who posted about Sylvalum being the real desert first. Don't recognize the second half of that, though.
>>340975167
I agree.
Most people don't seem to acknowledge that Xenoblade's writing excels in it's world-building and small stories on the side.
>>340975241
It's a beta map/concept map, but it's pretty much been hinted at and passively confirmed that what we explored in Xenoblade X was only a small part of Mira and that there may be another human ark on another continent.
>>340975378
It's been one of the biggest Xenoblade memes since Xenoblade released. What are you on about?
>>340975404
It will be in the sequel, I hope.
>>340975073
Not much interesting about it when the game just goes "Yeah, it does shit - SEQUEL HOOK"
>>340957120
>liked how X handled the mc
THE MX WAS A FUCKING NON CHARACTER FOR THE ENTIRE PLOT ARE YOU KIDDING ME
THE PLAYER LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER, THE STORY IS MORE ABOUT ELMA THAN THE PLAYERSOWN CHARACTER
FUCK IM MAD YOU POSTED THIS
>>340975680
Fuck you, that was interesting. You're just simplifying it.
>>340942189
If X is the best, then the Wii U is fucked
>Xenoblade on Wii
>ported to N3DS
>Xenoblade X on Wii U
>ported to next handheld
Please let this happen. I don't want to spend $300 just t play this game.
>>340975656
>It's been one of the biggest Xenoblade memes since Xenoblade released. What are you on about?
It's become a Smash meme now.
Smash's fanbase is a lot bigger so it got new recognition that way.
>>340975656
Xenoblade X's writing*
>>340975073
The world building and Mira in general are 10/10. It's fucking amazing is what it is. All the ayy lmaos, all the little nooks and crannies, all the hidden things around the world.
I even managed to get invested in peoples' daily lives. I would talk to everyone every new chapter to see if they had anything new going on.
Xenoblade Chronicles X was downright amazing.
>>340975180
Hence "no bodies of water or rainfall" comment.
>>340975073
>nothing is native to mira but there's still tons of life on itL says he's just been on the planet since 'times of antiquity', Nopon are revealed to not be from Mira in a sidequest
>all these ancient civilizations that probably didn't leave but instead spent their entire existence on mira and died there
>all these different xenos getting sucked in because of weird space stuff
>built in translator
Mira is mysterious and also probably really clingy.
>>340975556
Someone described Sylvalum as a burnt/undercooked cookie ages back and it fit perfectly.
I hope they add more super bosses for the next one. It was great reaching the point in the game where you can Blossom Blade everything for 1 mill every swing after intense grinding, but then it sucks because you can only do it on 1 thing, because everything else dies in a single hit
>>340975660
There isn't go to be a sequel. And I honestly don't mind. I raged a bit when I read the interview at first considering how it ended but after a few months, I realised that I really don't care for the characters.
I'd rather have a more party-focused plot like the original that isn't all ELMA ELMA ELMA.
>>340975771
>tfw there is an Elma, Tatsu and Lin fanclub but no Cross fanclub
>>340975656
>It's a beta map/concept map, but it's pretty much been hinted at and passively confirmed that what we explored in Xenoblade X was only a small part of Mira and that there may be another human ark on another continent.
wasn't it new tokyo or new london or some shit?
>>340975816
A planet that is basically god and can do whatever it seems to please to convenience the plot is not interesting.
>>340975241
I think it's been said somewhere that another EXODUS shuttle landed on the opposite side of Mira
>>340975771
Play the sidequests, dumbass.
>>340976086
This is my interpretation of it. Mira is purposefully pulling people in. That's why the Ma-non and the Ganglion couldn't escape. That's why Luxaar was so intent on getting the Vita back. Someone, something is messing with everyone. Even L and Professor B are trapped there, and Professor B is far more advanced than even the smartest Ma-non.
People who say Xenoblade Chronicles X has shitty writing never played it through and did all the side missions. Mira is definitely a "living" planet.
>>340976329
It can't do whatever it wants, you don't know what it can do you idiot.
>>340976567
ONE OR TWO FUCKING OPTIONAL QUIPS PER SIDE MISSION DOESN'T FUCKING CHANGE SHIT
NOTHING THE MC CHOOSES MATTERS AT ALL DURING THE COURSE OF THE FUCKING GAME
THE MC JUST WATCHES EVENTS UNFOLD UNTIL CUTSCENES ARE OVER AND THEN HE SUDDENLY EXISTS TO KILL THINGS AND THEN DISAPPEARS WHILE PLOT HAPPENS
THATS NOT HOW YOU FUCKING TELL A STORY FAGGOT, LET ALONE A ROLE-PLAYING GAME STORY
FUCK PLEASE NEVER GET INTO GAME DEVELOPMENT HOLY SHIT
Xenoblade X gives me hope that Monolith will return to cool sci-fi mecha stuff instead of fantasy little boy shounen garbage.
It's not perfect but Mira was really fun to explore and learn.They've pretty much set themselves up for a potential sequel given the ending and so many half-answered questions and hints of another continent with a different crashed exodus ship.
>xenogears was the last good xeno game
>>340977168
Not him, but I went into it expecting to hate the silent characterless protag, but ended up loving it. I'm convinced now that it's much better to go back to Role Playing roots and be able to do whatever you want through your character, not as another character.
WE 1970'S NOW
>>340976972
It auto-translates everything everyone says to each other and somehow preserves everyone's mental state even thoughthe computer running every human's mind broke
It fucking interferes with time travel!
It does whatever it fucking wants
>>340977168
You must be a really fucking boring person. Can't your imagination do any work?
>>340977168
I remember the one time the MC did something in the story was being forced to step in front of Lao and defend him.
FUCK NO I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, SCREW YOU LIN
>>340977406
I really hope that we get to explore the other continents looking for survivors. There could even be a city-building side quest where we get to set up a NNYC or a New Miami somewhere, and invite humans to live it up there.Also MC carry over, please.
>>340942189
God no. It was by my last and biggest disappointment with Nintendo.
Still cannot believe I bought it at full price and forced myself to finish that pile of shit.
Want to sell it but I dont wanna make anyone else go through that experience so I might just bury it somewhere where it will never be found.
>>340976393
i think it was about a ship that got near mira and lost a lifehold unit there, the one in sylvalum isn't from the white whale, it didn't say that a ship landed tho
i just want to see how the fuck do the ghosts/phantoms fit in all of this, the ovah and the telethia existing in the same planet, the weirs space, the translator, the lack knight/great one, the mims being alive
...oh that's basically the whole story
>>340970735
Kill yourself.
Overdrive is fucking garbage. Especially on Skells.
XCX combat is just spam shit with little thought. And unlike the first game, Dragon's Dogma, Rogue Galaxy and other action rpg with AI party members, your party in XCX doesn't fucking matter.
>>340979725
>XCX combat is just spam shit with little thought.
I can make bullshit up too.
>>340977406
I won't buy a sequel to XCX. I have no interest in anything they set up in that horrible setting. The sidequests were a bit fun, but overall the game was a disappointment.
>>340979725
>your party in XCX doesn't fucking matter.
you basically proved that you've just seen videos
Why'd they remove the Aggro rings from the first game?
>>340980471
I've played the game too, they really don't do much to help, my character always dealt the majority of damage to any enemy encountered.
And the random QTE to heal was a bad mechanic too.
>>340980257
Go ahead, you'd be the only one. Or are you seriously so braindead you think spamming simplistic as fuck mmo rotations takes thought?
>>340980471
You basically proved you are in denial.
>>340980436
>I have no interest in anything they set up in that horrible setting
setting =/= story
X's setting is leagues better and more interesting than the first game's. Main story on the other hand not so much.
>>340978806
No, the one in Sylvalum was from the White Whale, but had records of a message intercepted from the ark holding New Paris received moments before the Whale crashed.
>>340980436
>horrible setting
>>340980814
>setting =/= story
Hey fuckhead, XCX's setting is shallow trash. It's very nice visually, but there is zero depth. Every single shitty mystery is "mirai phenomenon" aka BULLSHIT
>>340974764
It only played in the cutscene where NLA got attacked. I was so disappointed
>>340980814
Mira is crap
>>340978759
>Namefag
>Watches shitty /co/mblr memeshows
>Has shit tastes
Makes sense
>>340945625
Are you me from the past?
I got that game for 14th birthday.
I didn't play it untill I was 17, but still play it gets really good at the second area.
>>340980813
>Go ahead, you'd be the only one. Or are you seriously so braindead you think spamming simplistic as fuck mmo rotations takes thought?
How is Xenoblade X's general combat system any more spammy than the original? If anything it's an objective improvement in any single way.
Chain Attacks are just as bad as overdrive by the way. Topple locking and combos aren't hard to grasp, and are far more accessible to pull off than permanent overdrive too.
>>340980814
>X's setting is leagues better and more interesting than the first game's
I refuse to accept that anyone can have that much shit taste.
>>340981605
Not him, but I prefer sci-fi settings and X did a really good job of setting up a hostile alien land really well.
>>340980814
>X's setting is leagues better and more interesting than the first game's
Two country sized titans, one covered in various enviorments, the other a mechanical construct, is less interesting than the deux ex machina planet?
>comfy thread where Xeno fans discuss Xenoblade X
>suddenly influx of clueless Xenoblade Chronicles spill in crying that X wasn't a sequel to their beloved shonen cliches and feeling it memes
It was fun while it lasted boys, pack it up.
>>340975241
There are three, if you look closely behind the thorn area on the upper right corner of Mira there is the same blue light that comes from the other two cities.
The game also talks about ships from Tokyo and France sending them signals and there is artwork of a tokyo based city
>>340981972
X isn't sci-fi, its fantasy and partially supernatural.
Whatever sci-fi aspects present in it are so bare bones.
I'm at Hidden Village in XBC. Just how much of the game is left? I have a hundred hours so far. Do I still have a long way to go?
am i the only one that thought chapter 12 was the beginning of the game until the key we've lost started playing?
>>340982015
xeno threads haven't been the same ever since xenoblade released
>>340982474
Yes. Also leave the thread.
>>340982474
I'd say you got a bit more than 1/4 of it left
>>340942189
Xenoblade is the worst series until they fix that horrid battle system. You can tell nobody play tested it if the back out button is the same as the qte button. Also there's no point of talking to party members when enemies have infinite range and will kill you while you're struggling to navigate a menu
>>340982015
>thread starts with blatant bait saying Xenoblade X is the best shit ever
>m-muh comfy thread is being raided by shitposters
Literally retarded.
>>340982507
I knew it was the end of the game when I realized they started putting effort into the cutscenes again and had the whole party together.
Also the whole "no turning back, save your game now" point
>>340982601
>>340982814
Alright thanks.
>>340982242
>this isnt sf
>>340981972
The original's setting was way more interesting and fully fleshed out. Two giants, great battle, things start living on it and end up continuing the same battle. You go from the bottom to the top of the giant. Each section is unique and plain amazing. But every time you're reminded it's a fucking giant and you can see the other giant in the distance knowing you'll eventually need to go there. Go there from a detached hand, completely different experience from before.
Sure exploration and gameplay-wise X might have had more content but the setting, design and story surround everything was a lot more interesting in the original.
>>340983171
when the chimeras appeared i thought they would start leaking from the lifehold core and become regular enemies in the overworld and then have some mutant chimeras combined with mira creatures, that's why i thought it was a point of no return
boy was i disappointed, i even said outloud "so this is where the game actually starts" ...just kill me
>>340983284
It's fantasy. The same way Star Wars is also fantasy.
Learn what these terms actually mean you fucking illiterate child.
>>>340942551
This so much!
i still dont know what happened, did the devs who worked on Chronicles died or something?
How could they fuck a sequel that bad?
>>340981605
Why not? Mira may have been a planet but its side quests go far more into the details about Mira's history, geography and mysteries a lot more than the Bionis/Mechonis's side quests.
Once you get over the idea of Xenoblade taking place on two giants, everything on the Bionis itself was par for the course high fantasy/anime fantasy. Mechonis was far more interesting and original in ideas than the Bionis.
Mira's a far more interesting setting than the Bionis only because of what's on Mira, as opposed to what's on the Bionis.
>>340983120
>blatant bait
If that was the case the thread would have been filled with shitposting from the get-go. The first chunk of the thread was full of people discussing Xenoblade X until you came along. And OP didn't imply it was the best game ever, learn to read you illiterate fuck. OP implied it was the best game on the Wii U, which it is. You came into this thread and started derailing Xenoblade X discussion.
>>340983524
>Each section is unique and plain amazing
As is each section of Xenoblade X too.
>>340982242
You don't know much about sci-fi, do you? If you actually get mad about X's sentient planet you must not even be aware of who Anne McCaffey was. Not to mention, the game actually goes into a lot of detail on how every sector of NLA works in a convincing manner, and there isn't any hole in technology or the feats humans achieve during the story.
It's a comprehensible sci-fi backdrop that serves well for detailing the survival of an exodus from the humans' home planet and following colonization of a hostile world with a twist so common in 60s-80s sci-fi you'd be retarded to not see it coming. As cheesy as the writing itself was, the setting was really well thought out.
But you're just an illiterate retard talking shit about a subject he knows nothing about, so why do I even bother?
>>340983771
DNA Mutant Lao has to be one of the most anti-climatic final bosses ever.
It had nothing to do with anything.
People who think x was a good game are just as delusional as xcx fans. What faggots can enjoy a xeno game without controlling a mecha? Its the only reason to play the xeno series
>>340984178
this
>>340942189
I'm actually a little butthurt because I fucking loved everything about X. I just hate knowing there will NEVER EVER be a sequel to it.
>>340984178
>>340984318
What? Mutant Lao was fucking amazing. I was more hyped for him than I was for Zanza, though not as hyped as I was for Egil.
>>340984569
It ended on sequel bait. I wouldn't be surprised if, towards the end of the NX's lifespan, we got a sequel
>>340984597
read again
>It had nothing to do with anything.
it was cool, yes but wtf why
>>340984178
>>340984318
All of the scenes involving Lao were great, and chimera Lao showed just how fucking dangerous it was to play god. I'm not sure how fucking over the most fucked over character in the game, after he redeems himself could be anti-climactic.
Currently deciding if I should play XG or XC first. Not sure if a hacked Wii U is worth the money and effort. Should I just flip a coin or something?
>>340984831
It had tons of precedence in the story. Lao was struggling with what he learned, came back to save the day, and ended up turning into a chimera because he got dipped in a DNA bath .
>>340985275
The whole DNA bath thing as well as the mutant "security measures" didn't have precedence, that was just out of nowhere
>>340984569
I don't get why if Takahashi says his next game will feel different from the previous game means that it can't be a sequel.
The story left of at a point where the game can't feel the same anyways.
There are so many hints at there being more than one city on Mira.
Next game will probably be them rusing us into thinking it will be a completly unrelated other Exodus arc that landed somewhere different, only to reveal that it is actually on the other side of Mira.
>>340985458
Did they need to be alluded to? They were kept secret for a reason. Just to show how fucked up the project was.
Can't wait to see what the other city has in stored for us.
>>340983936
X had 4 regions with very similar internal caves with a handful of kind-of unique areas like the Definian base.
XC had around 7 unique overworlds, 6 towns/villages, and unique caves/dungeons (like bionis interior, ether caves).
To further highlight this point, in X instead of fighting your way to the final boss room, you're pretty much taken there. In XC you had to go through Prison Island again, though a different path. After going through the Interior.
I don't see why anyone would argue about it. The original's setting and attached story is way more fleshed out and varied than X. It's way better.
>>340985771
They weren't final boss material just being introduced like that is what I'm saying.
>>340985614
>mfw new xeno game ends up being a FPS
>>340985873
X had 5 regions with various different landmarks and enviroments within them and one major hub that was pretty much 4 of the original's towns put together into one. It also gave off a better feeling of exploration, because unlike the original's areas, enviroments in X were pretty expansive with a lot of different nuances and details spread throughout in a vast, open area.
Also, you still fight your way to the final boss room in X, you have to kill a lot of respawning enemies to make your way into the Lifehold there. Have you even played the game?
>>340985614
Because this is Takahashi we're talking about. Thinking there's any foreseeable pattern in this man's actions is absurd.
>>340985873
You're ignoring that XC, despite having more overworlds than X, they were generally a lot smaller and less varied than the five overworlds in X.
Whereas the Bionis Leg was largely just plains most of the way through except for very small areas for variation, Primordia was a mix of grasslands, badlands, mountains and large lakes without really showing a bias towards a specific biome.
Whereas Makna forest was a just a forest/jungle with a single forest, Noctilum varied between a swamp, a jungle, fungus, floodplains, islands, a delta and mountains.
The philosophy around X's world design was less, but larger and more varied regions.
>>340986881
with a single waterfall*
I never expected MonolithSoft to release a jrpg with such a mediocre plot. Guess no one is perfect.
Don't even know how much copies they sold but I honestly wish they doesn't release a sequel.
It would just dirt even more the Xeno name.
>>340986396
Dude you just fly your skell up the lifehold and the cutscene starts, you don't have to fight anything
>>340987412
both xenoblades have a mediocre plot
>>340987412
I think there is more to it than people give it credit for since the story isn't as into your face like it was in XC, but if you carry enough to dig into it there is some interesting stuff there.
>>340987958
X is on the lower end of mediocre tho.
>>340986881
We're talking about setting here. X had more content, no one's arguing against that, but it had a weaker setting.
And I disagree about variety. XC had smaller maps but there were more and the maps were way more varied than X. For one, X's cave designs were pretty much trash probably because they had to think about how to integrate to with the larger overworld.
Noctilum may have more features integrated inside it but it was the same map with no context. Why was the swamp there? It just was. That's what makes the setting weak. Satorl Marsh on the other hand had an entire explanation of how it interacts with the ether flow on Bionis. It's Bionis' ass which is why you end up going inside the interior to go upwards.
>>340987412
Are you implying Xenogears had good plot?
>>340989376
Xenosaga* my bad.
>>340945165
This. The garbage-tier soundtrack killed it for me. First they put in one of the most divisive soundtracks in any game in history, and then provide no way to turn it off. WTF mang?
Bring back ACE+ and Manami Kiyota, please.
>>340989509
Not him but, I enjoyed the for episode 1. Was interested in how things would turn out. Then came 2 and well it got axed. 3 was an improvement but, meh.
>>340989636
>then provide no way to turn it off
The very least they could have done was let us balance the voice and sound effect volume with it.
Music drowned out the characters talking so often
>>340989826
>the for episode
*the plot for episode
>>340983936
>Mira's history
>mysteries
You are so full of shit contrarian.
>>340964248
>mfw I played Xenogears and loved it
>still hated X
>>340989252
Do you really need everything spoonfed to you? The way the world fits together in X feels (mostly) organic, and the world's inhabitants also mesh really well with the setting they're given. Mira feels cohesive, and has a sense of place, at least arguably. The context is obvious, you're in a fucking alien planet with weird flora and fauna and you explore its wonders because it's your job. Real places don't have a purpose of existing, they're just there and the life that develops within them adapts to said enviroment. That's it.
And caves make up such a small amount of the entire overworld in comparison to the original that argument hardly stands. Yes, most caves (setting aside like two in Primordia) are just material spots, but they're largely irrelevant, really small in comparison to the rest of the game and entirely optional, unlike the caves in the first game.
>literally defending planet of deus ex machina
stop responding to the troll
>>340945625
Hope you have a widescreen crt, Xenoblade doesn't have a 4:3 option
XCX was terrible. Especially the robots, most disappointing shit ever.
>>340989252
>needing geographical context to enjoy exploring an alien planet
Like, it'd be cool if the game had nature channel narration that explained in detail how the Miran ecosystems work, but that doesn't sound all that realistic given how complex and natural the landscape is compared to a giant that simply mirrors the human body. I appreciate the details that went into the inner workings of the Bionis, but the fact that Mira isn't a living titan doesn't detract away from it either.
>>340981291
And when the manon ship arrived at NLA
This is a comfy as fuck thread full of anons with exceptional taste
what happened?
who are the best aliens and why are they the orpheans
>>340992138
>complaining about people having dissenting opinions or debating with one another
You're more annoying than actual shitposters.
>>340942551
Affinity missions were great, setting is fucking great, sequel setup was fucking great, mechanical designs were fucking great, Lao's entire arc was more developed than anything Zanza or Shulk went through, the affinity missions were actually relevant and interesting... Game is not perfect by any chance but you're a shit.
>>340992407
I wasn't complaining though.
>>340990660
a deus ex machina implies that it saved everyone and that it resolved all the problems.
It didn't.
REMINDER: This shit is set up to be a multiple part story. The Ghosts have not been encountered, the Samaar are on their way, the Black Knight is in fact a character, they have art of NLA after years of development, see pic related.
Samaar is basically this game's Solaris, and the Ganglion are basically Gebler. With the Lifehold Core acting EXACTLY like Deus' biological computer Kadamony, Episode 1 of Xenogears' Perfect Works timeline describing a period where humanity fled to a new planet, dealt with space piracy and creating a place for itself in the universe, built the Deus Weapons System (starting with Kadamony), and lost their new home (which is later referred to as Lost Jerusalem), it's painfully obvious what they're doing here.
Hell, Mira even has a "phenomenon space" which is language used to describe the functionality of the Zohar Modifier. Speaking of "Mira," the word is Portuguese for "Mire, thick river." Using Zion to refer to Jerusalem is common in Portugal, and Zion comes from the Hurrian word "seyan" which means "related to the river."
To use Xenogears as a better example, the end point of Xenoblade X is to Xenoblade X's full story what the defeat of Shakhan is to Xenogears' story.
Game was built with a damn fine sequel planned and it's so fucking obvious.
>>340994615
that's art of early new LA and Mira was the name of a woman that was like super important for Exodus or something like that, it's in the short stories too
>>340995207
>early NLA
>has literally everything people talk about building as well as the same layout as current NLA, same gate locations and everywhere
>things can only have one meaning
>>340945118
Only if you like BORING ass story and fight system
