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>submachine guns
>house-to-house combat
>motorcycles
>semi-auto rifles in most soldier's hands
>NO TRENCHES
How is this WWI again?
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>>340915896
>muh trenches
go back to 7th grade, it was a globe spanning conflict that had more than just two lines of trenches.
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>>340915896
Did you actually think it would be a rec orchestra tier clone? Of course it's fucking fast paced, are you retarded?
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>>340916293
a man can dream
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>>340915896


WE
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Because WE
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it WWI becuz

We
Wuz
In it
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>>340916270
Are you actually this dense or just hard baiting?

Perhaps you're unironic -and- American?
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>>340915896

>expecting trenches in anything other than the single player

There will probably be 1 trench map in multiplayer and nobody will play it.
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>>340915896
they already announced, that it's not going to be historically accurate in some tweet, i think

otherwise you couldn't do much with WW1 setting
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>>340915896
WW1 had all those things.
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>>340915896
Yes, the franchise it belongs to should have given it away.
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>>340916668
I take offense to that
I'm a stupid american and our schools beat into your god damn head that WW1 was trenches
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>>340916668
le american meme
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>>340916668
What country are you from, Claude?
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Battlefield has never been realistic.
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>>340917558
Why does it matter, Jamal? Your country has the murder rates of Colombia and the same percentage of whites as South Africa.

Now fuck off
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>>340916746
They're throwing the rarities together. The equivalent of doing this to a WWII game would to have jets instead of planes for the germans, STG44's in every german's hands, and to have V1 rockets.
But WWII games didn't do this.
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>>340918135

>STG44's in every german's hands

BF1942, then?
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As long as there are trench guns and flame throwers I'll be happy.
[spoilers]And three edged knives
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>>340918135
SHUT THE FUCK UP. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY THAT BORING SHIT. WE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD NIGGAS AND EVERY NIGGA IS GOING TO BUY UP THIS SHIT. WE HISTORY NOW
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holy shit all these niggers
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>>340918072
It also probably saved your Eurocuck shithole from speaking German twice, eat a dick, Pierre.
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>>340918135

>But WWII games didn't do this.

They did though. Especially with the FG42.
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>>340916270
>globe spanning conflict
Europe and related colonies in Middle East.
It's called World War not because it was fought in entire world, but because countries from all continents participated, due to alliances or colonial ties
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have you ever dropped a game and dev faster than BF and dice?
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>>340918728
Well it couldn't save yours from speaking Spanish DeMarcus Tyrone
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Trenches aren't cinematic.
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>>340918912

>doesn't know about Japan
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What's with all these niggers?
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>everyone going to play the game is a nigger
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>>340915896
Motorcycles saw large scale deployment in WW1
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>NO TRENCHES

why would you just tell straight up lies?
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The First Hype Black guy had to be Terry Crews
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>>340915896
people wouldn't buy it.
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Cant wait for Finnish civil war DLC
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Part of the problem with modern battlefield games is that the maps are too big and loosely designed for the player count. It's mostly just walking around for five minutes, shooting someone/getting shot, rinse and repeat.

Trench warfare was the perfect opportunity to alleviate this by making the combat encounters more focused and regular but they seem to be making the same old mistakes
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>>340915896
>t. chemistry major
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>>340918912
You're forgetting Africa, asia and the Pacific
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>>340915896
I'm not mad about it having these things but wouldn't WW2 be a better setting for those type of things?
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>>340918781
In CoD 1 there are 2 FG-42s, one in first American mission, and one in last Soviet mission. CoD 2 did not have it. WaW had like 5 throughout campaign
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>>340918912
Do you know what China calls World War 2? (Apart from "The second world war", that is) "The fight against Japanese aggression".
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Depending on the front, WW1 was a very mobile war.

US alone used over 80,000 motorcycles. Out of everything this is the dumbest thing to get mad at
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>>340920065

>single player
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I wonder they're talking about destruction, does this mean there'll be persistent ground damage from artillery?
because honestly that would be pretty darn neat and perfect for a WW1 game
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BATTLEFIELD 1

SNOOP DAWGS VS TERRY CREWS
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>>340920065

>single player
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>>340920187
Those motorbikes were for transporting messages and the wounded you stupid amerifat
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>>340918728
T-Thanks for saving us from the evil nazis...
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>>340920498

There was ground deformation in the BF3 beta, but it caused all manner of problems with failing through the map so they removed it.
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>>340920518
Teamwork makes the dream work homie.
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This better be a level where you are at the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
With Franz Ferdinand's Take Me Out playing during.
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>>340921059
It should be the first level.

No Russian style.
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>>340921059
>he believes the jew version

perfect goy
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>>340920706
Infantry Men did use motorcycle dumbass.

They were a way to rapidly deploy machinegun crew
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>>340920198
>>340920559
>historical accuracy
>not single player
but yeah, just keep responding same thing
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>>340919607
>Tampere push map

YESSS
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Any good WW1 books?
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>>340915896
>muh the whole First World War was just trenches

Please go back to school
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>>340916564

WUZ KAISERS N' SHIT
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>>340920498
BF4 (and 3?) had ground damage so yes.
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>>340921432
To the Last Man by Jeff Shaara.
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>>340921490
>implying it won't be Western Front
like Americans know about any other
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>>340921490
>Black dudes played a significant role in WWI
>Submachine guns were widely used in WWI

Please go back to school
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>>340921432
Cambridge History of the Great War vol 1, 2 and 3
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>>340921379

>playing battlefield for the single player
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In WW1 times trenches were built even in air. Before the war all world cities were rebuilded into trenches. Trenches. I'm the trenche of my trenche
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>>340918135
Excuse me?
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gameplay has started, I literally couldn't tell if this was WW1 or WW2 from watching it other than the shape of the tanks and planes
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>>340920706
This.
If combat ever broke out you had to IMMEDIATELY dismount from your motorbike.
There was also a strict rule of "no shooting from the back/sidecar of a motorbike" punishable by death.
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>>340919004
>Thinks that Americans are embarrassed that we have a multi-cultured country

Try harder pierre
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>>340921825
Germans Stormtroopers by the end of the war were using the MP18 submachinegun
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>>340918135
V2 rockets you mean?
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pace looks exactly like BF4. So. fucking. stupid.

so much wasted potential

fuck you EA
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>>340921825
Triggered /pol/kitty
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>>340921880
UNAWARE OF SHELLSHOCK, NOR AWARE OF TRENCHE FOOT
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>>340915896
The Stalemate in France wasn't the entire war. It was extremely varied combat.

There was lots of house to house combat.
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>>340921857
You're an idiot, or just pretending?
Care to name 5 shooters that were historically accurate in multiplayer?
I'll help you
1. Call of Duty
2. Red Orchestra
3. ...
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>>340922725
3. Halo
4. Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Director's Cut
5. The Witcher
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>>340922725
Insurgency
uh
Jackie Chan
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>>340915896
it's just me or the gameplay remind alot of battlefront star wars, it's super fast like star wars
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>>340920518
How does snoop not have his own fucking twitch emoticon yet?
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>>340923773
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>>340921825
pic related is only SMG that was widely used during WW2. Though calling it SMG may be little questionable, since it was used as regular machinegun.
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The zeppelin fallin off looks good
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>>340922168
Even has a jet plane in it, none of these kids played it though.
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>>340923378
You don't even need to hide in houses be cause evrey one just run fast
and this game with all theses automatic weapon, they should have made a WW2 game instead would have been cooler.
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Game doesn't look any new really, but still fun I guess.
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>>340915896
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The game looks fun. That's what matters the most. I hope they have more than just European and Middle Eastern maps.
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Funnily enough this 2 minute video actually makes the game look better than any of the E3 stuff. The weather looks pretty cool and bayonet charge looks fun.

https://youtu.be/MkRcvtGE90Q
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>>340916270
Yes, and apart from trench fighting very little happened apart from getting shelled by artillery at random places.
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there was a trench. snoop dog was in it
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>>340923976
> 3 per battalion
yes massively used across the whole of ww1
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>>340924960
>tfw you'll never hang out with snoop dog in a trench getting shelled
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>>340924291

just run in and hit the shovel button
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>>340915896
>thinking Batteflield games are about realism
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I miss BF1942
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>>340924960
not enough trench imo.
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>>340915896
The opening months of the war was actually very mobile foreshadowing ww2 in many ways. It slowed down in the winter when both sides dug in across the front.

Not defending ea. This game will be as historically accurate as Braveheart.
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I'm glad they'll have an open beta, looks like it might be fun to play for a little while desu
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feelsbadman
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Running through rough terrain and up rocky debris with no movement penalty triggers me.
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>>340915896
I got you senpai
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How does vehicles work?

Do they work like in Battlefront?
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I hope there are RP or "realistic" servers, i feel like they could capitalize on this market by including a mode for them.
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>le World War 1 was only trenches meme

Quality American education, cucks.
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>>340915896
>post yfw Trenches are only on DLC maps
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Why do they bother make a WWI game if they make it nothing like WWI?
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show a different fucking map ya cunts
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basically they've fucked over their fans
people voted for a ww1 theme and asked for trenches and bolt action weaponry but the executives probably were too scared to do this so they made a modern warfare game in a ww1 setting
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>>340927036

You're implying that they actually teach anything about WW1 in the USA public school system.

I'm pretty sure we spent a day and half on WW1 the whole semester so that we could hurry up to the Great Depression and WW2 where the USA had a bigger impact.
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>>340926761
>RP servers
>hey stop, that kill you got didn't count a real soldier back then wouldn't have attacked like that
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>>340927206
Because it makes it look superficially different, so people think it has new gameplay when really it's the same old shit
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>>340927206
Because it isn't a simulator.
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>>340916668
>American
>No Trenches
You're even more stupid.
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>>340924773
>A fucking holosight
>Lewis Gun - AR
>Literally calling a Lewis gun an assault rifle
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>>340927910
Honestly there's so much wrong with this that I've just given up at this point
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>>340922168

Huge difference considering that it was an expansion that was completely separate from the actual game.
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>>340915896
It is ALTERNATE HISTORY WW1
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>mfw
this shit
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>>340915896

You know, I noticed in a lot of these threads that EA shills are in complete full force and you can tell. It's no secret that they are here. They been here for years and will only pop up if to promote or defend their franchises usually when there is an announcement or during E3.

This game is horrendously hilarious. There are plenty of WW1 games out there that have a better experience because this is just idiotic.
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Because the reality of WW1 would be too boring for a competitive video game.

Why do people find that so difficult to understand?
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>>340927910

Looks more like a reflex sight, which isn't completely absurd since the reflex sight was invented before the first world war.

The only absurd part is that it is on small arms when it was pretty much only known to be used on aircraft weapons systems and anti-aircraft guns until late WW2 and afterward.
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>>340928929
Fuck off shill the game is garbage
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>>340928747
>It's no secret that they are here.
That won't stop them from pretending they aren't
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>>340929301
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>>340915896
>flashy bollywood shit
>hip hop
>fast tanks
>dramatic BWAAAAM

This is why Red Orchestra and Verdun will be hailed as the best WW games for the next decade.
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>>340927036
>implying fights in colonies had any significance in WW1, and wasn't just easy landgrab
I'll give you Eastern Front though. But ehy won't make it, because Eastern front without cavalry is like Western front without trenches
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4 MAPS
M P
A A
P M
SPAM 4

Another 4 for the low, low price of $30. $25 if you buy the season pass.
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>>340928929
>Because the reality of WW1 would be too boring for a competitive video game.
Then why make a competitive video game set in WW1?

Why not make a good FPS in WW1 or a competitive one set in whatever the fuck fits "competitive" video game.
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>>340915896
/v/ is desperately trying to find something wrong with this

Come on just be optimistic FOR ONCE
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>>340915896
Final Scores of the 3rd Match
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>>340927910
pretty sure they meant automatic rifle with that
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>>340929627
source?
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>>340917558
>someone is a cunt
>automatically assume he's french

all of 4chan is french desu
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>>340929508
I don't understand how that shows they're pretending they aren't.
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>>340928929
What if. Ok. Hear me out. Yeah

What if. Right.

War is not fun and the first world war was a horrific and needless loss of life that lead to a more bloody war?
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>>340918912
Except it was also fought in Africa and naval battles took place in South America aswell.
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>>340929908
>snoop dogg and the game have 0 kills
real gamers
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>>340929908

Snoop dog high as fuck, smoking a blunt while playing, getting 0 kills.
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>>340928747
>implying EA would waste time shilling on this shitty board where everyone pirates games

whatever makes you feel better
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>>340915896
Because this guy is in the game
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>>340930092
It proves they browse here, and someone always tries to pretend shills aren't actually here
see:
>>340930472
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>>340929946
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>>340929886
>blind optimism is good
your mind set is killing the industry
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it's another white boy scared thread
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>>340929908
>>340930237
>>340930372
Snoop was literally walking into walls.
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>>340922168
I forgot this was the base game.
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>>340930673
He still did better than Terry Crews
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>>340930602
Aren't these just the beta maps?
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>>340929931
it's a heavy machine gun meant to be deployed and crewed by 2-3 people barely a rifle
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>>340915896
>All tanks going faster than 10 kilometers per hour
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>>340928389
>>340930759
goalposts.txt
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>>340930791
I don't see no beta anywhere, it just says "maps of battelfield1"
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>>340930602

>MONTE GRAPPA

Austria-Hungary vs Italian hilarity confirmed.
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>>340928929
So make an FPS in a fantasy environment that some how rationalizes whatever conflict (and style of combat) is going on. But nope, WW1 has all the lore and models pre-fucking-dictated, so you can scan a gun into the game and rave about how detailed it is. While also raving about how great the gameplay is even though it makes no sense in the context of the world. Its a shitty port of already defined mechanics into a new visa that meshes poorly.
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>>340929946
LMAO
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FRANCE ANNOUNCED WHEN

We're fighting in France with some french equipment (Renault FT)

Where's my blue uniforms with Adrian helmets? Is it really that hard to fucking model? They'll have to do it anyway for campaign
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>>340930673
How are you even supposed to carry people like this?
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>>340930927
>Don't understand the point
>Thinks we moved the goalpost.
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>>340931109
I mean his team won twice, so he was obviously using his WEED POWERS to do something.
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>>340930998
At that point both had gone out of their "hilariously incompetent" phase into the "WW1 average incompetence" one
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>all those fucking /k/ autists
No one fucking cares. As long as it is fun, no one in the whole world will fucking care about how historicly accurate the weapons are. WW1 was fucking boring, and if you were to make it realistic it would have been a boring ass game
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>>340931000
genuinley thought it was some sort of alternatee steampunk ww1 universe
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>>340930814
Cromwell tank could go over 50km per hour
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>>340931218
It's a game released with what you specified. You did not say it had to be a "base game."
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>>340931375
But is it fun?
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>>340929908
>Snoop with 0 kills and 11 deaths
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Only problem is SMG's. They totally fucking ruin it

They should have done it like this:

>Assault: Semi Autos
>Medic: Bolt Actions with no scopes
>Support: LMG's/shotguns
>Scout: Bolt Actions with scopes
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>>340931506
Yes.
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>>340930776
T. Crews went 4-7 with 1805 point on the board, Snoop went 0-11 with 577 points. I guess you just have that old fashioned "retard" affliction huh?
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>>340931408
I would be fine with this. INB4 Steam punk is shit
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>>340931503
>Battlefield 1942 has more Bolt-Action rifles than Battlefield 1
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>>340915896

sitzkrieg dlc when?
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Now that Battlefield 1 is coming out, maybe we'll see some more WWI games come out of it
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>>340930809
it was a light machine gun whose mark III** variant introduced at the very end of the war allowed for hip and shoulder firing if need be
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>>340931575
This, desu.
If nothing else semi-auto and SMGs should share a class so it's a choice between them.
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>>340931375
set it in ww2 then stop defending bad design
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>>340931575

Hopefully bolt action with no scope is an option for all classes.
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>>340931375
WW1 has been made boring by limp dick muh feels war is bad mkay liberals making us all read poetry and shit.

WW1 was metal as fuck, the logistics, the strategies (not the tactics) the death of the last medieval aspects of european society.

You had fucking horsemen with tactics and equipment straight out of Napeoleon's 1814 army charging machineguns in 1914.

It was tradition vs. the future, it was insanity.
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>>340931490
that's a fucking ww2 british tank
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>>340931490
>Cromwell tank
>WW1
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>>340931575
I hope by semi-autos you mean carbines like a c96 with stock.
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Anyone make a gif of that white guy trying to high five Terry ?
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>>340931825
>if needed
yeah at the expense of the users shoulder
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>>340915896
Did you honestly expect a Red Orchestra game made by DICE?

How retarded are you delusional idiots.

It's going to be fast paced like all other battlefield games in history.
Jesus christ, the idiocy.
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>>340918728

Thank you for saving us of a strong and united Europe, imperialist hatass.
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>>340932280
Just because we know it will be terrible, doesn't mean we should accept it.
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>>340932280
1942 wasn't that fast paced - and it had most classes using bolt actions.

A return to that was what a lot of people were hoping for, on a modern engine with destruction and with lessons learned from 2142 & BF2
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>>340929908
This is what happens you you invite random 'cool gangster' celebs to play a competitive FPS for promotional reasons. I hope nobody expected otherwise. At least they were fair enough to put people like Jackfrag and Xfactor on opposite teams. Or Matimio and levelcap.
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>>340915896
>NO TRENCHES

There was actually a lot of mobility in WWI. Trenches are infamous because of the Somme (and to a much lesser degree, Gallipoli) and so everyone thinks the whole war was like that.
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>>340915896
>Implying ANY wars were fought by frantically running around the battlefield like retards

Because a game where everybody sits in a trench and takes crap shots at each other would be so much fun..
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>>340932483

>most classes using bolt actions.

2/5 is not "most".
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>>340932484
Was worth it to have Emily Ratjaowkaskokaoo walk in front of the camera with in a thin top no bra on tbq senpai
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>>340932484
I wonder if they had scrims to try and pre-balance, or if everyone just showed up and they were like "Hey guys, go play"
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>>340932213
yeah it's not like it's a FUCKING WAR or anything
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>>340932601
Scout, Medic, Engineer all used bolt actions.

Anti tank mained a bazooka and Assault always had a LMG/MG.

That's 3/5 numbnuts, and Anti-tanks were just not effective vs. infantry so more or less makes it 3/4
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>>340919701
>Part of the problem with modern battlefield games is that the maps are too big and loosely designed for the player count. It's mostly just walking around for five minutes, shooting someone/getting shot, rinse and repeat.

What the fuck are you talking about? Battlefield is the opposite, it's too intense. You can spawn anywhere you want and as soon as you spawn it's full action. I don't think you've played any recent Battlefield game.
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>>340932587
Just retarded yuroshits and dumb murricans, really.
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>>340931375
Your lack of education is boring me.

If you want a ADHD jammy screen game the market is full of them. Its no excuse to butcher history.
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It looks quite good, there are only a few things to change to make it how we want

1. Slow down the pacing, its far too fast and arcade like
2. Reduce the amount of SMGs and MGs in common use, make them later unlocks, put Bolt actions on more classes, WITHOUT scopes
3. Slow down the fucking tanks, i expect the to be faster than real life or it would take fucking forever but they are BF3/4 speed right now which is shite

Do that and we'll have a nice comfy WW1 shooter, there's a couple of months for them to listen to feedback and hopefully make these small but significant tweaks.
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>>340932479
Let me ask again.
Did you honestly expect a Red Orchestra game made by DICE?
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>>340933085
This
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>>340932919
medic used SMGs

only engi and sniper had bolts/semi autos
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>>340932919

Medic had an SMG.
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>>340933085
This.
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>>340932057
>You had fucking horsemen with tactics and equipment straight out of Napeoleon's
No you didn't, stop memeing and learn some history.
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>>340932280
>>340916293

>Dice makes hardcore mode like red orchestra
>trolls codfags
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>>340933085
>wanting unlocks
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>>340932587
Pretty much all the western front and perhaps 75% of the war was indeed Trenches.
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>>340929551
>verdun
>that one american trench raider which killed 30 fucking krauts with the shotgun
>the one french guy with the hotchkiss making enemies kiss his ass
>the british spamming with the smle
>the revolver with a bayonet
>the german faggots using their op hmg and flamethrower
>poor belgians getting nothing
they have to give belgians some stuff desu
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>>340915896
Good now it sounds like something masses would buy.
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>>340932638
Who?
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>>340923942
just checking if u saved my screenshot
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>>340933085
Fuck off retard
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>>340933332
I dont know what system they're going for but presumably all weapons wont be available from the start.
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>>340933085
>2. Reduce the amount of SMGs and MGs in common use, make them later unlocks, put Bolt actions on more classes, WITHOUT scopes
>make them later unlocks
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>>340933551
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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>>340933239
That photo was literally taken in 1914. Here, have another one,
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>>340933736
I don't kiss my mother at all.
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>>340933309
Yeah, no. They aren't idiots, they know their audience: CoD Kids with a false sense of superiority.
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>>340933649
>>340933332
What exactly is wrong with that? I haven't played a BF game since BF3. You progress through the game, more weapons become available, so?
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>>340933886
>I haven't played a BF game since BF3
opinion discarded
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>>340933736
i kiss ur mom faggot
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>>340923942
everyone else using keyboard and mouse, snoop confirmed cuksole pleb
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>>340933885
The continual focus away from "core" (if such a thing exists) to "casual"
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>>340933749
Yes and? It was not Napoleonic nor from 1914. Those French Cuirasser uniforms were in use for over 100 years and they did not charge machine guns with cavalry, they'd known that was a bad idea since the Franco Prussian war of 1870-71.
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>>340930984
you do realize they dont reveal all the maps before the game is out right
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>>340934062
1814*
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>>340922419
Oh god, I can only imagine them in this. Elite division with the best training, meant to punch through the path of least resistance and gain maximum ground, reduced to "the only guy with an automatic"
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>hype for a WW1 experience
>just a fucking BF4 reskin

t-this wasn't part of the deal
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>>340933886
unlocks in a multiplayer games are inherently bad you fucking retard
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>>340934265
>expected a WW1 game
Retard
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>>340929908
>all the celebrities got shat on
imagine that
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>>340920093
MUH NANKING
NEVER FORGET
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>>340933085
I'd ask for Faction restrictions on weapons too.

just because it would make it have more character. (perhaps for certain classes of weapon).
along with some sense of depressing music/orchestral score, maybe with period music too.

I'd prefer mod tools to do most of this stuff though.


>You will never have a proper ww1 themed AoS-clone.
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>>340934283
Go on, explain why.
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>>340933481
Tits Mcgee from blurred lines, she was there. Got interviewed with Snoop
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You retards thought it would be anything other than a BF3 reskin?
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>>340932638
Post pics
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>>340934425
it only serves to increase the players interest artificially
it's a marketing trick don't fall for it
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>>340932484
Speaking of Jackfrags, I need to send this to him.
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>>340934283
this is a good point,
red orchestra 2 kinda had a grinding problem with some of it's unlocks.
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>>340934674
I would disagree, an initial lock can help keep players on good weaps for learning the game
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>>340931375
SO basically, I may as well stick to BF4, a stable game, not so demanding graphically with likely more customisation, more weapons, a well established player-base and the generic shooter setting and gameplay I'm looking for VS a most likely demanding game whose netcode will most likely be broken at launch and wich will be just a BF4 reskin, I wouldn't even be surprized if after some testing poeple end up finding an equivalent of the aek971 or the ace23 in the form of a 40pounds machinegun magically used like an AR by a soldier .....
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>>340927506
>force all players to use basic rifles with little ammo
>give squad leaders big boy guns
>it's now a roleplay server

You watch your girlfriend get fucked by other men and pretend to enjoy it and maybe you like it a little on the inside as well
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>>340934425
>longtime players have more options to ezwin against you with

>if your team doesn't have high ranked players, you're basically fucked

>dice have a reason to charge you for weapons too

>makes faction specific weapons less logical because people will whine about not being able to use any weapon whenever they want
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>>340922214
That bullshit equal to the same bullshit that shooting a parachuting pilot who ejected is punishable by death
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I don't know man when I watched that 64 man game after the conference I could have swore they showed people in trenches.
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>>340934674
Progression unlocks have been in since Bad Company 1, and pretty much all games allow you to unlock things as you progress. I don't see the problem with them, it's fun to get new weapons through your play. Having them all at once is too much choice and means there are some you will just not use especially in a game with so many weapons, whereas when you unlock one you want to go try it out.

The concept of artificial interest makes no sense, interest in something is interest.
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>>340933239
yes you fucking did and thats why it got so incredibly gruesome

the european nations were under the impression that theyd go to the battlefield for like 1 day, fight and come back home
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>>340935086
If all weapons are properly balanced than unlocked weapons shouldn't be any better and offer no advantage other than a new style of play.
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>>340934936
ideally all weapons should be balanced so your arguement falls short
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>>340934936
this is a good point.

ideally they'd just force you to be a grunt at first, like a regular rifleman, and then you can unlock other classes/specializations.

either this (and/or class limitations) would encourage players to not try and simply hump the "Most OP" weapon.
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>>340935292
They did not use Napoleonic tactics in WW1 and they didn't use horses to charge enemy trenches except in a few specific cases by irregular troops usually in the middle east.
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