it's my first time playing dragon age origins; what starting options should I go with?
I want to
>have fun
>have some memes (not too many)
>not do too much micromanaging
what do?
Go in blind, it's how you have fun with any game
>>340864315
This. Save all the cheesing for another playthrough.
>>340864315
I played dark souls blind and all it made me do was rage quit
most of your companions are fighters so maybe not go as a fighter
>>340864380
this isnt as hard as dark souls
you can savescum
>>340864380
Consider a different hobby.
You know remember playing through the neverending Fade section.
>>340864380
dark souls is shit tho
>>340864059
Play mage if you want to win.
>people play this shit
it's boring as fuck and has terrible gameplay, why
>>340864059
Don't pick rogue, play on easy. That's enough.
>>340864687
>nothing but typos
but still the fade section was shit, agreed
>>340864687
I don't remember it being bad, I played through it quite happily
But then I saw everyone on /v/ hated it for some reason
>>340864687
>the Fade in 2
Dual Wield Warrior Warden
Alistair with sword and board
Leliana with bow
Morrigan with Storm of the Century
Go mage
Become am arcane warrior
Enjoy fun
>>340864059
Go play witcher 3 instead.
DAO is a meme game, a bad meme game.
>>340864059
The fuck is up with those monkeylike proportions?
>>340864059
play as a mage, the game has similar combat to NWN, which means that playing non-spellcasters is boring as fuck, besides, most of your companions are melee fighters
>>340864687
people exaggerate this so much, its not that bad or that long
>>340865254
I honestly don't remember anything from 2. It's probably one of the more forgettable games ever.
>>340865396
>Enjoy fun
>DAO battle system
>Fun
Every encounter in the game is literally the same.
Go play BG2 or something OP.
>>340864059
>>have fun
>>have some memes (not too many)
>>not do too much micromanaging
The class doesn't matter.
Play on easy then.
Personally I think dwarf noble has the best origin.
>>340865651
It's literally a corridor with like 3 demons trying to turn your mates against you. It sucks. Big disappointment.
>>340864059
take mage. rogue is nonstop micromanaging and warrior is the most boring shit ever
later go arcane warrior, warning though, it's easy to miss the spec, but it's easily the most versatile and OP spec in the game. you can lay down shit tonne of hurt from range with magic and you're unkillable up close and can hit a decent melee
the fade took like 3 hours, it was fucking boring predictable shit.
>the final boss in DA2or should I say bosses
I have never been so fucking angry at a game in my life.
>>340864687
>considered replaying DA
>thought about the Fade
Thanks, asshole
>>340865768
being an unstoppable blood + plus arcane warrior murder train was pretty fun
>>340865849
You're fucking welcome http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/816/?
>>340865849
get a mod that removes it
>>340865849
There is literally a mod to removie.
>>340864687
Fade was cool as fuck, you could see the Black City, it also was only like 20m long and you would see interesting things about your companions
Allistair/Sten/Zevran+Dog mod combo masterace
>>340864059
>have some memes
What the fuck is that meant to even mean?
>>340865942
>it also was only like 20m long
Maybe on a replay, that shit felt torturously long the first time I played it.
>>340864059
I always liked being a healing mage with aoe elemental spells, so I could get away with any combination of party I wanted.
Chose Elf for the added bonus of showing up people who were racist dickheads.
>>340865942
Do you ever get to the black city in any future dragon age.
always that was really interesting part of the lore.
I am still in love with Morrigan.
>>340866189
>>340865254
>>340865754
Didn't really mind the Feynriel fade quest line.
Would have liked more variety in DA2's areas in general obviously, but I thought that quest was fine for a short character study of the kid having the dream.
>>340864986
>play on easy
>>340866314
I mean OP did say he wanted to have fun. Which is always code for not be challenged. And don't have too much micromanaging.
Which you don't really have to do on easy.
>>340865984
It means he spends entirely too much time on here and has probably never had pussy before.
>>340866189
>tfw Claudia Black will never dominate you
>>340864687
I use a mod to skip it
>>340865321
This is a good party, but I preferred two mages over two warriors.
>>340866145
Not directly. You meet someone whoclaims to have been one of the original magisters to reach the black city, and saw that the throne of Heaven was empty.
>>340866461
No need to RAISE the difficulty but leaving it on normal is a good balance I think. Too easy and it isn't fun.
Why did they go from the awesome Morrigan/Leilana romance options in DA:O and then give you "It's a man" Cass and "More boring than DA2" Josephine as your only (straight male) options for DA:I?
>>340866314
>>340866461
>mfw I couldn't win the last fights in Denerim on easy
>>340866702
Look if he comes to /v/ and asks about advice before playing a game and he had to rage quit dark souls then yes he definitely should play on easy.
>>340866751
it didn't help that dai morrigan was f i n e
>>340864687
>>340865942
Yeah, I actually really liked the atmosphere of the Fade. It's too drawn out sure, but it's tolerable if you push through on easy mode.
Why is the new Dragon Age so different from Origins?
Is it actually fun after some point, I think I remember getting to a desert Indiana jones looking temple thing and got bored with it
It gets better at some point right?
>>340865396
>activate buffs and autoattack
>fun
>>340866905
Because they wanted the Skyrim audience, literally. And no, it does not get better.
>>340866872
class quests are really fun
but fuck the fade
>>340866905
>Why is the new Dragon Age so different from Origins?
no idea, Origins was played like old rpgs and was fun and hilariously edgy, while inquisition is just dull
>>340865845
Orsino pissed me off more than Meredith. She at least had the excuse of being fucking insane at that point, what he did was just moronic.
>>340866751
I think the issue with romance in Inquisition is that most of the character arcs didn't have the same level of payoff as previous games.
Even DA2 had a sense of variety and closure for how the relationships could be dealt with.
>>340866818
I never played original Dank Souls but I've had to put Bloodborne down twice now from getting my ass kicked too much (I'm in the healing church workshop so ice beaten a few bosses). I still didn't have too much trouble beating DAO on normal. I died a good bit but not so much for it to be frustrating.
But yeah he does seem like a faggot in the OP so I guess you still kinda have a point.
>>340864059
>city elf
>female
Best origin.
>>340866905
they changed writing teams and lost the very concerted traditional baldur's gate esque dnd fantasy that origins was going for, and ended up with a hodgepodge of mismatched art design (not that origins was a visual tour de force to be fair) and mediocre characters.
plus they dropped all the plot threads laid out in awakening, those fuckers
>It gets better at some point right?
not really honestly
Mage to bloodmage to arcane knight.
>caster tank that uses hp as mana
So broken, the efficiency is through the fucking roof.
>>340864059
Just keep in mind there's only one healer party member in the whole game.
>>340867307
>wears heavy armor a shield and a sword
>comes into room with 20 buffs
>snaps his fingers and stuns every single enemy with blood magic.
At that point I only had companions with me for banter.
>>340867224
The problem with 2 was they only focused on the relationships, it was a pure waifu game, and played like a jrpg. None of the other story arcs made any sense, and the main story changed on a dime like 4 times.
That and you never knew what your dialog options would do, I accidentally had gay sex in that game.
>play mage
>go arcane warrior
>go bloodmage
>win
>>340867435
I hate most JRPGs and I still think saying da2 played like a jrpg is an insult to jrpgs.
>>340864687
What is the problem with the fade? Do you have that short of an attention span? People even using a mod to remove it before even playing it the fist time because read on the internet it was bad.
>>340867307
>>340867449
that build is so efficient that I easily won that fight you were meant to lose, only found out that you can get caught and about the whole rescue quest by accident
>>340867416
>cast heal
>gain hp for free
>almost no cast time or cooldown
>literally unavailable as long as you're not stunned or silenced
>>340864059
Always go Mage. Warrior and Rouge skill sets are just far too bland and cooldown based.
>>340864059
>picking anything but rogue
Have fun missing out on all the loot in locked chests.
Dual Wield Warrior is objectively the best and most fun class in Origins. Prove me wrong; you can't.
>>340867608
Wait which fight are you supposed to lose?
>>340867659
unkillable*
>>340867608
The fade and the deep roads had the same issue; they dragged on for fucking ever, and all you're doing is killing meatshield trash mobs over and over.
It's an rpg, and there's a minute of dialog in 3 hours of spelunking.
>>340866905
I think Inquisition had some genuinely good moments, but the overall design got the MMO treatment. My theory is that they were responding to the backlash against the recycled environments of DA2 by taking the other extreme. With huge pretty areas and colorful environments, but not much to do in them.
My hope is that they were just showing off the new graphical capabilities, and that the next game would show more of a balance between story and exploration, but that might be wishful thinking on my part.
>>340867606
It is just tedious. Come on man.
>DA2 is considered to be one of the worst games ever made
>DA2 has a gigantic following on tumblr
>Literally never seen any of them talk about Origins, just 2 and Inquisition
>literally never see them talk about gameplay, only about how much they love isabella and merril, and how gay they all of the characters are apparently
how the fuck can anyone like Isabella? she's a horrid cunt
>>340867608
It's strong enough that if you know what you're doing and have an ample supply of potions, you can solo every single encounter except for the High Dragon on Nightmare.
And I've heard you can beat High Dragon as well, but I never managed it and never saw any proof.
>>340867746
you alone Vs Loghain's lieutenant girl and like 10 dudes
>>340867746
when loghain's lieutenant confronts you in denerim. you're not supposed to lose it exactly, but the alternate quest route for getting captured (or surrendering) has some pretty funny moments with the party
>>340867746
When you rescue queen, fight with ser Cauthrien
>>340867842
At least she gives you access to a rare ingredient that you need for an achievement.
uninstall wizard best class
>>340867920
>>340867969
>>340867940
Cool. Had no idea.
That is what you get for autism that doesn't let you play rpgs unless you min-max the shit out of them and have a perfect party.
>>340867576
I think it's an accurate assessment
>gameplay mechanics are all basic as shit
>huge disconnect between levels
>everyone is overly stylish and spew their personalities constantly
>shit writing
>way too much grind and linear levels
Take for example the first quest to get 10 gold or whatever, that's the kind of crap you would only ever see in a jrpg.
"aw shit team, the airship is fucked, time to run errends to pay for repairs"
>>340867671
can't leliana do that instead?
>>340867940
>Oghren and Sten go in
>they claim to be fantastical juggler brothers
Honestly, the thing about that quest is that it serves as a reminder bioware is perfectly capable of writing GREAT shit,
but they'd rather spend all their time writing about the moral superiority of gay people and other things tumblr wants to hear
>>340868235
But why take Leliana everywhere?
>>340867435
Execution wasn't perfect, but I liked the sense that there was more than one major conflict in the city and how it tied into the separate character arcs of the party.
The main story of DA2 was weaker, but I still appreciated the theme of a ragtag group of misfits living their lives together over the years, rather than trying to immediately repeat Origin's big save the world quest.
>That and you never knew what your dialog options would do
The big heart icon made it painfully obvious when you were moving towards romance.
I'll conceded that the snarky option was an easy way to accidentally sound like a douche though.
>>340864059
Don't pick Warrior unless you like to spend 90% of the time on the ground or rooted
>that dragon cave mountain thing
Jesus FUCKING Christ.
>>340868453
>Execution wasn't perfect
That is one hell of an understatement.
>>340868401
well she isn't the best party member, but she has some shitty buffs to go along.
go rogue
>>340867157
>"These people treat us like shit because they think we are blood mages."
>"I know what we can do, USE SOME FUCKING BLOOD MAGIC."
God everyone in 2 was fucking retarded.
>>340867940
>>340868257
>Guard: You don't look like brothers...
>Zevran: Are your eyes failing? Look at us, we, we are twins!
>Oghren: I'm the pretty one.
The different combinations of dialogue you can get for that quest are amazing.
>Morrigan's dream in the fade
>5 minutes of her verbally abusing a demon for doing such a bad job at impersonating flementh
>the demon finally gets fed up and slaps her
>"now you're starting to get it"
The fade dreams were fun, shame the rest of the fade was fucking horrible.
god bless the skip the fade mod
>>340868832
Merrill at least tried to introduce a bit of moral ambiguity towards accepting blood magic as just another tool, rather than an immediate embodiment of evil.Having all of the mages immediately going demon at the end during the final battle was pretty asinine though.
>>340867842
2 was extremely character-focused, that's why the fanbases shifted. It's my main gripe with Bioware. Around 2010 their games stopped even pretending they were about cool stories or interesting worlds and started centering entirely around characters with emphasis on romance. Anyway, DAO still has a very loyal fangirlbase. If you dig a bit, there's a ton of pics with various (but mostly Dalish) self-inserts banging Alistair
>>340869742
and yet the characters in the latter-day games were both less interesting and less compelling waifus
>>340864687
deep roads were worse
>>340868832
>guys we need to make enough money to get my sister on this trip and out of this templar-run town, and we need to lay low
>assault templar facilities, with magic, and fuck up templar plans, with magic, while waging open war in the streets against templars, all with magic
>there's an option to leave her in the town when you go on the trip, which everybody knows will lead to her death
>not that it matters she dies regardless of the choice
Fuck that game was stupid as shit.
>>340869447
Merrill's treatment of blood magic was the coolest thing about her. She did not do this out of desperation or to gain UNLIMITED power, she keeps it all under control it deserves. Seriously, if Circles actually taught mages stuff instead of screaming YOU'RE A FREAK OF NATURE WHO'S GONNA MURDER US ALL BECAUSE GOD HATES YOU, there would be little to no problems. But the system was created by people whose only contact with mages was Tevinter Edgeperium, so whatever.I think, by the final battle the only mages remaining in the Circle were aside from Orsino were actually clean. I only remember fighting a bunch of shades and a cornered Pride abomination
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO WANTS ORIGINS REMASTERED? :v
>>340864687
>all those free attribute points from filling the click buffer
>>340870591
Would you really trust EA/bioware with that project?
>>340866628
You seem to forget that the guy form Awakening was another magister who was in black city
>>340864059
Dwarf commoner and human noble are by far the best starting areas but human noble has better interaction/optional ending later while the dwarf has practically none.
The script system for combat behavior is kind of fun but it is absolute shit for tanks because target priority is garbage. Play a tank the first time through.
Warrior specialization should be Champion and any other as the secondary based on what kind of enemies you find the hardest. Mages should be spirit healer/blood mage and rogues should be ranged specialized as bard/assassin.
Best Balanced party is You as a the tank with wynn healing and zhevran and leliana as DPS. There are so many cross party buffs and targeted enemy debuffs that you have the highest sustained damage and very good burst not to mention most of the party stays out of range of everything.
Three mages is advanced play but top notch.
There is literally nothing wrong with the fade, just some minor back tracking
>>340870476
If you take her with the gay terrorist in your group, he can wardenize her to keep her from dying.
DA2 was mostly shit, but it is full of all these weird little details that can change small parts of the story... and then gives you no real control over the main plot.
>>340864687
>tfw you didn't mind that part and never understood the "neverending fade" meme
It really wasn't that long
>>340870765
Too be honest, the only remaster for the game I want is combat, lol
>>340870476
What? Almost all of Act 1 was slicing up bandits with an occasional abomination. The only templar encounter I remember was in Anders recruitment quest. And Bethany only dies if you take her with you and only if you don't take Anders, otherwise she becomes a Grey Warden. If you leave her home, she's taken to Circle and leads a pretty happy lifeunless you side with templars and let Meredith kill her in the finale
The game's pretty stupid, but not that stupid.
>>340869096
>I hate the fade
Said every shitter ever.
>>340871162
There was 2 raids on the main templar hideout that I remember in act 1, but they were all the shitty side-quests that were assorted to hell and back, there was also some templars outside a cave you deal with, but either way running up and down the streets of the city spraying fireballs and death magic isn't really "laying low" even if it's at bandits instead of templars.
For the sister I just meant she becomes plot irrelivant for the most part, or dies, and because she can die they didn't flesh out everything after that point for her.
>>340870781
I don't recall much of Awakening honestly.Talking about the Architect?
>>340870867
Well, at least they were smart enough to make a thematic point out of that. The whole game is about how the things are going to shit no matter what and the best you can do is look out for yourself and those around. Hawke is just riding a wave of circumstances most of the time.
I just started it for the first time a couple weeks ago.
Lost interest and dropped it, though. Guess it isn't for me.
>>340871531
>Hawke is just riding a wave of circumstances most of the time.
That's probably why the story is so haphazard and thrown together, you really have zero involvement in 99% of the shit that happens in the game, you're just a victim of circumstance.
>>340864687
The Fade wasn't bad you pussy. Now the Deep Roads, that was some tedious ass bullshit.
>>340864687
>You know notice how The Fade is literally The Warp and Realm of Chaos of Warhammer.
>>340864803
Because we like video games.
>>340871846
Almost every fantasy setting has some sort of parallel magic reality.
I have tried to play this game so many times that I have done literally every race origin. I get so fucking bored of it like six hours in and drop it every time. How do I make it fun, /v/?
>>340870507
Thought it was a wasted opportunity that Merrill didn't at least make a cameo in Inquisition, considering how relevant the Eluvians become. Needed to balance out all the characters in Inquisition that just seemed to hate everything about Dalish history.Maybe there were more surviving mages than I remember. I just recall fighting a mix of templars and abominations while moving through the different buildings.
>>340871381
Well, yeah. post-ME2 Bioware tend to reduce characters who can die at some point to letter dispensers. Although, the sibling gets some nice development in the Legacy DLC, which also points at another annoying practice of setting up sequels in DLC. Arrival, Legacy, Trespasser.
About the bit with running around fireballing stuff, they kinda wave it away with the notion that in Act 1 you're a nobody and basically under the themplars' radar, and later you get too much influence and connectons. In Act 3 if you're a mage, Meredith flat out tells you that if you weren't so important, you'd get sent straight to Gallows. All excuses, but at least something.
>>340872058
Put it on easy, continue with the backstory you enjoyed the most, and play it for the story?
If you don't feel anything by the end of recruiting people in Lothering than it might not be your cup of tea.
>>340872058
Just don't go to deeproads or the fade.
Go to the forest or the city, then you'll be invested to slog through deeproads and fade, and hopefully overgeared and overleveled so you'll steamroll both of those.
>>340872003
Don't get me wrong but i don't know much about fantasy settings.
Can you give explames of games with parallel world based on human's troughts like the Totally Not The Warp of Dragon Age and the Warhammer series?I don't read much fantasy books lately, that's why i'm asking.
>>340872121
>replaying DA2
>this time i will probably go with Isabella
>Merrill is so awkwardly cute i go with her again
>>340864059
Go mage since it's the most fun and versatile and powerful class and even though there's "micromanaging" (at least compared to warrior or rogue) it's better than you're in charge of your own micromanaging rather than another party member's.
Specialize in Arcane Warrior/Blood mage, that way you can be a tank that's stronger than a warrior tank or shift back into a caster role at will. If you want to go pure caster go Spirit Healer/Blood Mage.
>>340872058
If you don't like it, don't play it.
I mean, nothing significant in terms of gameplay changes after the first 6 hours.
>>340864059
Go Human Warrior/Rogue. It makes you a noble so you have a lot more options
>>340872351
Is there a translated version of this?
lowgain dindu nuffin
>>340867307
Arcane warrior should be first since the thing that makes being a blood mage worth it (blood wound) is only obtainable after your second specialization anyway
>>340872638
Warcraft has the emerald dream.
Dark souls has the abyss.
Elder scrolls has oblivion.
Divinity original sin had the timespace nexus place.
Witcher averted the trope instead of having a parallel magic land it just had parallel reality magic.
It's not always "based on human thoughts" but there's always some sort of butterfly effect cross-play between the two realities, and it's always magic-based.
da:o is SO much fun.
everything about the game is good
>>340873512
Bloodmage is easier to get early on with the save trick, and much more fun to play around with. Arcane Warrior is kind of garbage unless you have the buffs to go with it.
>>340873528
The abyss in dark souls is a different realm?
>>340874056
Yes.
You'll notice in dark souls 1 you need to ring to go into the abyss, because that's the "key", otherwise you'll be obliterated.
>>340873528
>no silent hill otherworld
>>340874221
I don't think I would agree.
The ring is for surviving in it.
It does not seem like a separate realm at all. Essentially it works more like a dangerous area of the world.
>>340872351
>no loghain and shale
>>340871719DWARVEN CRAFT, FINE DWARVEN CRAFT
>>340874447
>ever letting Loghain live
>He didn't become Alistair's Queen
Best ending.
>>340867842
I loved Origins and I consider Isabella to be my favorite DA2 character. Idk i like her character progression if you rivalmance her. She actually wants to become a better person and stop being a whore
>>340874596
>not fucking his daughter while letting him sacrifice himself
I named my character "Wet Suzie"
>>340874759
>letting him kill the Archdemon and become a legend after the shit he pulled.
him being beheaded in disgrace after having his treasonous activities revealed to the entire Landsmeet is more than he deserved
>>340874683
>Not becoming the king yourself
>>340869096
do you also not get all these statpoints by skipping the fade?
>>340870591
no i love origins alot despite the dated combat but i wouldnt want current bioware to ruin one of my favorite games also you know theyll fuck with the lore somehow
>>340874972
>letting this whole "honor" and "legacy" bullshit get in the way of killing motherfucking darkspawn
You are part of the problem.
Whether it be in shit like DA or GoT, the worst people in any fictional setting aren't the "bad guys," but the people who let their petty personal shit get in the way of SAVING THE GODDAMN WORLD.
>>340874972
The objective best solution is to:
>Spare him
>Fuck Morrigan for that OGB
>Make Alistair king
>Let Loghain sacrifice himself in Inquisition
>>340874282
That's a whole other thing, but it's not the same because; 1. it's not magical. 2. there's no ritual or object involved in moving between them.
The logic horror follows is all horror pretty much takes place in the same reality; one where horror media doesn't exist so nobody knows what to do when everything goes to shit. Silent hill just happens to have some weird throwbacks to real reality.
>>340875626
but killing Loghain doesn't get in the way of anything
Get off your high horse man holy shit
>>340874390
My problem with that is it's not the shadow that kills you, rather the fall, and when you have the ring you take no fall damage.
But you can never really know in dark souls because all the lore and plot is bullshit anyway.
>>340875878
One more Grey Warden is a very important resource.
And Loghain on his worst day is still > Alistair "A bloo bloo bloo"
>>340876374
>And Loghain on his worst day is still > Alistair "every fucking line"
What an annoying fucker I think its his voice because i generally like his type of character but just not him
>>340876896
>i generally like his type of character
What, someone who cracks unfunny """""jokes""""" in an attempt to make up for his lack of personality?
>>340864380
I'm playing bloodborne blind and I've wasted so much time wandering, not knowing where to go, fighting the urge to search up a guide
I'm so conflicted
The fade is not bad at all. Why does everyone hate it? Because you have to be a rat and go through a hole?
>>340877014
I think he means layabout emotional mess characters who won't lift a finger to solve their own problems, but bitch at you for not solving them the exact perfect way they wanted you to.
On my second playthrough I really wanted to use Logain, but after this bitch screwing me over for the third time I could not fathom her getting any sort of a happy end. So I let Allistair cut her father down. Seeing Allistair man the fuck up and be king was pretty satisfying too.
>>340877014
forced to become something he doesn't want to be so he runs from his responsibilities while joking to hide his insecurities but mans up at the end. Not throw a huge fucking temper tantrum and rage quit the party while taking my best armor and weapons with him because i was planning to use Loghain as a sacrifice
>>340877114
first time its all mysterious and cool but subsequent playthroughs its tedious.
>Have fun
Pick Mage and become Arcane Warrior
>have some memes (not too many)
Take Morrigan and Alister with you
>not do too much micromanaging
Have Wynn in your party, cast Shimmering Shield and auto attack enemies with the AW sword
>>340877613
Why not just skip the whole game and go straight to the final battle then and give yourself the best equipment while you're at it?
>>340877382
She's like the only competent character sans the warden, wynne, and the arl of redcliffe in the game and is a really good politician.
>>340877114
It's tedious after the novelty wears off, and goes on for far too long.
>>340877878
>I don't like one part of a game
>CASUAL
>CASUAL
yeah nah fuck off
>>340875626
So you'd rather get rid of a young, strong warrior who is experienced in fighting Darkspawn in favor of an older warrior whose best fighting days are behind him?
>>340877382
God damnit Anora was such a cunt.
Come to think of it, so was just about everyone in Eamon's camp. Fuck Eamon so hard.
I go to the ends of the earth to find the literal Holy Fucking Grail of this universe, save him from certain death, and when I say I want him to spare one man's life, he can't fucking do it.
I know he's responsible for poisoning Eamon, but the entire Demon Possession thing is entirely on Eamon and his cunt wife for not putting him in the circle where his dumb ass belongs.
>>340877165
So, every Bioware companion in the last 10 years?
>>340877984
I have never called you a casual. It isn't about skill. Please try to be reasonable. I don't doubt anyone's ability to play the game, just why they play it in the first place.
>>340867842
Because she's a hot "person of color" so they automatically love her. I personally found her nasty as fuck and not in a good way.
>spare Loghain
>be like 'you better kill that dragon"
>"it's up to you Loghain"
>"you will die Loghain"
>mfw killing archdemon myself and dying a most glorious death one can imagine
Who /always kills archdemon and dies/ here
>>340875626
You mean like Loghain who fucked over the grey wardens because of his petty hate of fantasy france even though they were needed more than ever.
Loghain has done EXACTLY what you condemned here and has proven to be a risk.
>>340878059
Alistair is a whiny baby coddled by everybody even when he "hardens" he's still a brat. While Loghain is an experience and battle hardened veteran and a great strategist.
>>340878238
I'm one of those people.
>>340878238
>Not porting your character to Awakening
Point at him and laugh.
>>340878059
Yup, because that younger, more experienced warrior is a fucking retard who shrugs off all responsibility, but will fucking abandon you if you don't do things the way he likes. Loghain may be a dickhead, but in the end he owns up to his actions and faced his death like a man.
Anyways, an experienced general trumps a common grunt.
>>340878193
Again because i don't like one ONE part of a game I can't enjoy the other parts? are you an idiot?
>>340864687
The Fade was nothing compared to the Deep Roads.
Fuck that shitty padding so much.
>>340877887
>>340878102
>Willing to backstab you after rescuing her and let you rot in the dungeon
>Give you an ultimatum to make her queen screwing over both Allistair and her Father
>If you decline her she will barge into the landsmeet at the last minute to turn everyone against you and support her father who an hour ago she wanted to betray her father.
There is no one I wanted to kill more than her.
>>340878680
I was fine with the deep roads because I could use my party to clear things up fast
>>340878238
>Not fucking the sexy swamp witch
>Not killing the dragon yourself, getting the glory, and still getting to live on
>>340878818
I got her to agree to marrying Alistair and not screw me over.
>>340878461
No, that's perfectly fine. You're not getting what i'm saying all that well.
Have fun though, I guess.
>>340878680
>Play DAO for the first time on my old crappy PC
>Loading times are atrocious and I get about 20 fps on average but it's still manageable
>Get to the Deep Roads
>Mfw
>>340878989
>fucking Morrigan
>giving her the child woth a soul of A FUCKING ELDER GOD
>>340878360
>>340878385
I'll grant you that Loghain is a far better strategist than Alistair, but Loghain develops none of the strategy used for the Battle of Denerim. What little there was ("hey, one of us needs to get to the archdemon and kill it") was developed by Riordan and the Warden. And in terms of battle experience, by the end of the game, Alistair has killed more Darkspawn than Loghain has ever imagined. I don't care about battle experience vs humans (in which Loghain clearly has the advantage over Alistair), but rather experience in dealing with the various forms of Darkspawn.
>tfw own DA:O and Awakening on Xbox
I fucked up
>>340878989
Yes lets give that cunt a god baby
I am sure nothing can go wrong.
>>340879150
>ends up being nothing but a sweet kid kinda a mommas boy
While I live with him and Morrigan for the rest of my life fuck you Inqusition doesn't exist.
>>340879321
>I am sure nothing can go wrong.
nothing did though in fact Morrigan became less of a cunt
>>340879150
>Not trusting in the moralizing force of the D
Morrigan is probably the best written part of Inquisition, she legitimately matured as a person while still being true to her characterization. She just wanted her child to be safe and didn't really give a shit about the soul inside him.Then Flemmeth just instantly extracts it like it's no big deal, because lol, Bioware choices.
>>340879226
What strategy? by the time everybody gets their shit together the Darkspawn are literally at the gates and invading.
>>340879150
>Inquisition
>And then Flemeth shows up and takes the soul anyway, because lolyourchoices.
>>340879150
>Play my character as a cunning bastard who works towards getting the best possible outcome
>Manage to outplay Morrigan and not give her the god babby and kill the Archdemon without dying
>Bioshitware made that the canon choice despite the massive red flags that popped up when she presented the choice
It's like every fucking employee at Bioware got infected by parasitic mind worms that turned them retarded.
>>340864059
>not playing mage
Your gonna get fucked by the fade
Dwarf noble first playthrough for story.
Human mage second for dank arcane warrior memes as an unkillable incandescent god.
>>340879419
How do you know that.
DA1 never had a sequel.
>>340879541
That was my point. The strategy amounted to the three remaining Wardens in a room saying, "Hey, one of us has to be the one to kill the Archdemon."
>>340864687
The fade isn't bad the first time you go through it.
>>340879568
>>Manage to outplay Morrigan and not give her the god babby and kill the Archdemon without dying
How?
With loghain dying or how is that possible?
>>340879635
DLC witch hunt had indicators
>>340879585
>implying the fade is difficult at all
>>340864687
It wasn't that bad. Now, Orzammar was a fucking snorefest.
>>340879727
Allistair?
>>340871821
I liked the Deep roads because it actually felt like you went on a trek and not just to some other room.
>>340879673
While if they had more time to come up with something the Darkspawn was nothing but a mindless horde so when time finally came to plan all they had was to cut off the head and hope not to die. unless you want them to pull a bolder city and lead all darkspawn in the city and then blowing it up
>>340879759
It was probably how it was undeground and it made me feel like it's a sewer level
I always would make Alistair fuck Morrigan. They were super tsun towards each other all game, and needed to hatefuck the tension away.
>>340864803
Same reason play KOTOR and Neverwinter Nights
I had the game glitch out on me one time. Had Morigan morph into a spider and I believe she died. Then when I tried to change her back she would turn into a vertical spider and just kinda float around. It was pretty creepy.
>>340879984
I never did that before, what's morrigan's and alistair's reaction to this plan? What they say?
>>340880065
Nostalgia?
>>340880085
my party was full of bears
>>340880209
Morrigan gets pissed and turns into a fox so Alistair won't get the pleasure of fucking her real body
>>340879945
I don't think you understand what I was saying. I'm saying that they did what they did without any strategy at all. The guys I was responding to were saying that Loghain was more valuable to the party than Alistair because he is a great strategist. I was saying that strategy played virtually no part in the final battle, and thus Alistair would be as valuable, if not more so, than Loghain.
>>340864059
Make a mage.
Have 3 casters and a tank, force field your tank and then drop all your AoEs on the enemy.
>>340879984
>Alistair's face when he loses his virginity to Morrigan's smelly swamp vag.
>>340880348
No fucking way
I hope that's true
>>340880580it isn't
>>340867157
>win every battle ever in 2
>fight dragons, demons and rock wraiths with ease
>"WE WILL NEVER WIN WE'RE ALL DOOMED SO I'M GOING TO USE BLOOD MAGIC AND TRY TO KILL YOU BEFORE YOU FIGHT OUR ENEMY"
what the actual fuck.
also
>this fucking dragon age keep system for inquisition instead of just a simple save import like 1 to 2
why are EA such fucking shitters.
What is the best specialization and why is it Arcane Warrior + Battlemage?
>>340880659
Too late. It's canon in my head now since I never did it that way.
Reaver Berserker
and those blood skills from the Keep DLC
>Anders never would have gone off the deep end and become a terrorist if the wardens hadn't made him get rid of Ser Pounce A Lot
>>340864059
Pick dwarf noble, the best origin story by far.
I played the shit out of this game on xbox. I know it's supposed to be the successor to infinity engine games but it feels weird having an overhead camera after playing it so much with a close in over the shoulder an analog walking
>>340881110
He also wouldn't have gone off the deep end if the writers weren't retarded hacks.
>>340880429
but now you're not thinking long term after the battle we will need someone knowledgeable about troop movements, provisions, and training and Alistair is not that.
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>you will never hear this goddamn sonofabastardfuck's voice again
RIP
>>340881374
>>340880429
Plus Loghain isn't as annoying as Alistair and becomes a bro.
>tfw you're so submissive you end up being the healer for a bunch of AI characters
>>340881110
>warden commander awards him a cat for his bravery and service
>wardens take it away anyway
some parts of the continuity frustrate me.
Finally got around to playing TW3 lately and the writing between it and the DA games are like night and day. It's like fantasy games don't have to be written by people who lived their life through fanfiction.
>>340878680
I always kept deep roads for last. Sure it sucked missing out on ohgren that much of the game but it feels epic and you actually have enuf monies to buy the shit orzamar sells. Roses's thorn a best
>>340881374
None of that matters if you don't win against the Darkspawn. I'd rather ensure that we are best equipped to do that, rather than do something to jeopardize that in favor of looking long-term.
>>340881838
and look at what happens I won against the darkspawn no problem. I gambled and won also you're not counting the rest of the party there to back you two up.
>>340881525
if you're a mage there's no reason not to take healing as one of your specs, shapeshifting sucks
>>340881838
>>340882097
also the most experinced Grey warden their went out like a fucking idiot. Jumping on a dragon skyhigh and not expecting to be killed? right. Also no had experience taken on an Archdemon anyway
>>340865321
>dual wield warrior warden
My nigga
>>340881374
Who's to say that fuck won't go MUH ORLESIANS again? Unless you suggest requesting all reinforcements (which the Wardens are gonna need if they want to restore some semblance of infrastructure) from overseas, the risk is too big.
>>340865321
>Leliana with bow
>Not Sten with 2hand
>Not Zevran with dual shanks
>Not Wynne with literally anything
>>340882389
Sure, but both the warden and Alistair have experience fighting dragons, which the archdemon ultimately is. Loghain has no such experience, as far as the game tells us.
>>340881525
>He doesn't manually control all party members
>He plays on Easy
pathetic.
>>340882597
>(which the Wardens are gonna need if they want to restore some semblance of infrastructure)
The warden starts refilling the ranks in awakening considering he starts out alone.
>>340882597
>but both the warden and Alistair have experience fighting dragons,
they MIGHT have experience and only considering you killed the momma Dragon or Flemeth neither of which is mandatory.
>>340882097
Well, sure, if you look back at it with meta knowledge, the choice doesn't matter because, sure, you're gonna win regardless. But in the moment, picking Alistair over Loghain is the better choice for the warden if defeating the blight is the #1 priority.
