How can Nintendo even top this? It feels like the ultimate Mario game
ultimate shitty furfag game
fuck off
Has shitty controls.
We already went over this OP. Stop false-flagging so hard.
More unique bosses
Make everyone at least as fast as Toad and Todd even faster
In terms of content and level design, you are probably correct.
In terms of fun, controls and satisfaction? Absolutely not. I never once felt that feeling I get with the other Mario games with this one. It feels lifeless and a mandatory sequel solely for money, rather than for the love of the genre.
>>340864048
No, Galaxies were the ultimate Mario games.
3D World was just forgettable and plain
>>340866694
I only played the first one. But i heard 2 was even better.
>>340864048
Remember when people thought Mario Galaxy 2 couldn't be topped? When will you people ever learn?
>>340866623
This was never meant to be a true mainline Mario game, just a spin off. It's just that Nintendo decided to pretend it is one after they decided to abandon ship on the Wii U
>>340864048
Looks boring as fuck.
If you were around during the Mario 64 years you'd have more standards
>>340866694
>3D World was just forgettable and plain
Nope, 3DWorld is superior in every way to the Galaxies, except for the soundtrack.
>>340867392
>true mario game
Can we fucking get some creative responses already?
>>340867392
???
>>340867397
>looks boring
>looks
Try not to judge it until you have played it. I thought the same thing, having only played a demo at Target of it, but I recently got it and it's really quite a great game. Starts off way too easy, and it looks like it's going to be short as fuck, but the difficulty gets decent enough and there are like 12 worlds or something to it.
I'm not saying it's as good as 64 because that would be wrong. It doesn't have the charm that 64 and sunshine had either, and I still want Nintendo to return to making their Mario games more like that, but this definitely isn't a bad game at all.
I've been playing the entire thing co-op though, and I think that improves it. I'm not sure I'd have enjoyed it as much on my own.
>>340867275
Who the fuck said that? SMG2 was as forgettable as SM3DW.
SM3DW isn't the ultimate game, either. It was very through the motions. It may have had some originality, but it did so very poorly, and still relied too heavily on references. And, the bonus worlds were lazily repeated from previous levels, just like SMG2 and SM3DL did.
>>340867665
>>340867728
Creativity has nothing to do with it, it's a fact. This game was a spin-off, a sequel to 3D land on the 3DS, it didn't have the time put into it that the mainline games do. Nintendo was planning on making another mainline game, a sequel to 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy, but then gave up on the Wii U altogether.
>>340868042
>but it's a fact
You've got no way of proving your so called 'fact' it's also not the argument, you're steering the conversation to the same predictable era we've already been to. Come up with something new
>>340867397
Fun fact: Mario 64, a 20 year old game, has better 3D controls than the game that had 20 years of history to look upon: 3D World.
>>340867975
Well glad you enjoyed it. I played 3D Land and found it pretty boring, World looks the same
>>340867665
>>340867728
You both fell for the bait.
I liked 3d world. The cat bowser fight was a lot of fun.
>>340868524
It actually had an adventure to it too with exploring.
Hasn't been seen since Sunshine.
More of the same.
Especially more harder levels.
>>340868689
Yeah 3D World just felt like a chore. It was worse than 3D Land too
>>340868524
Not really. The movement in m64 has neither aged well nor was the game even built to accommodate such a range of movement well at the time.
>>340868839
>not really
Yes really. It's a fact. You negroid
>>340867975
It controls and functions fluidly, yes. Although that retarded run momentum system from SM3DL reared its ugly head in a minor manner (though I'm sure it helps the casuals).
SM3DW never got onto the nitty gritty of your moveset, there was barely any solid exploration (and even then, you could see where the savanna levels were trying to railroad you, not to mention being flat), and the story was just a miss, a pile of nothing.
Bowser gained no evident power boost by the fairy princesses (whom were rainbow colored, missed opportunity in not revisiting his rainbow colored SM64 third form), Plessie was a trite gimmick in the absence of Yoshi, the Boom Booms were too sore of a reminder that this is SM3DL again, and where Cat Bowser was a mistake, HAVING BOWSER SIT ON TOP OF A GIANT POW BLOCK WAS A WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF RETARDED.
>>340868882
No u >:^(
>>340864048
but 3dland was better
>>340868524
>fact
>posts opinions
No other Mario game can even COMPETE with SMG2
Why are Nintendo so fucking incompatent? A Mario 64 2 wouldn't be hard to create at all
>>340869017
Prove me wrong
>>340869072
Another Galaxy baby
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SHIT OVERRATED GAME
>>340864048
>he never played sunshine
Fucking millenials
>>340869084
>incompatent
I love this
FACT: there are only 4 mainline 3d Mario games, Galaxy, Galaxy 2, 3D Land and 3D world. The other 3d Mario games are justexcellentspinoffs since they're collectathons.
>>340868524
That's hard to judge, considering that only Champion Road tested those controls. Even then, none of the exploration, scaling structures, and intricate weaving of SM64/SMS.
Truly one of the worst games I've ever played. Repetetive bosses, most stages took like 30 seconds to complete, the furfag shit, worst power-ups in any Mario game, the game had only 1 good level, etc.
Then /v/ said it was only fun with friends so I tried it with 3 other people and we had to stop after half a level because that shit was a clusterfuck.
While we're on the subject, why fuck can't you play NSMBU with the gamepad and the wiimote. My gf and I wanted to play together and some how you can't because you need 2 wiimotes for some stupid reason.
Seriously the Wii U is the worst console I've ever owned thus far by a wide margin. Nintendo never again.
what did /v/ think of Matthewmatosis' reviews of the Mario games?
>>340869437
Trash. He's not a reviewer, he's just a commentator, and he has nothing insightful to say.
>>340869380
>considering that only Champion Road tested those controls
No? You control throughout the entire game. What are you pretending to say here even I can't
>>340869407
why are spongebob posters always such gigantic faggots
>>340869072
SMG2 is boring shit, and don't even get me started on Fluzzard.
OP is a faggot but the final boss stage really is GOAT tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCiuvRzBlg
>>340869084
>incompatent
Shitposters cant even spell a simple word?
>>340869114
People on /v/ have done that 1000 times over, you just insist on staying wrong. Better controls, better level design, more charming music and visuals, more movement options, multiplayer, more difficult objectives, more variety in gameplay. The list goes on. 3D World is the natural evolution of Galaxy 1 and 2, and 64, while great, is just not as solidly designed.
>in b4 underaged
Nope, I've been playing games since 1988. 64 was revolutionary, but the 3D Mario games have only gotten better as time has marched on.
>>340869529
Matty boy is a god-tier youtuber and he made a strong case for each game, especially 3D world
>>340868926
The story was flat out not there. They might as well not bothered with the princess sprixie things to be honest, they were just an annoyance. I suppose they needed something other than Peach for Bowser to kidnap so that she could be a playable character is all.
>>340869407
>why fuck can't you play NSMBU with the gamepad and the wiimote
You can. But you were baiting, so here
>>340869407
>>340869407
>>340869407
Have some (You)s
>>340869683
He didn't make any cases, he just splurged his opinions out in excessively long and unorganized videos. A "god-tier" Youtuber would be concise, insightful, and analytical.
Everyone who says game is bad don't have friends to play with.
>>340864048
Its shit
Give me a 64/sunshine type 3d mario
![[Shintani]_Hidamari_Sketch_-_01_[2F3103F3].avi_snapshot_09.55_[2014.10.08_20.53.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iyDonQd.jpg "[Shintani]_Hidamari_Sketch_-_01_[2F3103F3].avi_snapshot_09.55_[2014.10.08_20.53.49].jpg")
>>340869932
>excessively long
Opinion discarded~
>>340864048
Mario galaxy 3 or Super mario U/NX when?
>>340869531
Well, what you're saying is true, but, SM64's required tasks and vertical constructs demanded more skill from the player. SM3DW has vertical constructs, but they're Fisher Price rock climbing walls with little chance of death compared to SM64.
It'd be easier to see which physics/controls setup is superior if the levels required a greater level of player precision more often.
>>340869940
The game uses co-op as a gimmick, it's just there to make it easier for kids to play.
>>340869818
I wish it wasn't there.
No story would have been better than a limp one.
It felt soulless and too formulaic. Plus i finished it in two days.
>>340869218
>I'M A CHUCKSTER
Sunshine is best nuff said
>>340864048
>grass level
>desert level
>beach level
>tropical jungle level
>volcano level
NSMB 3D
Mario has already been to space.
Where can he possibly go from there but down?
>>340870159
Matthewmatosis deserves an award for saying as little in as much time as he takes. I watched his DMC video yesterday, it was almost 3 hours and yet he didn't make a single interesting or original comment. Usually if people talk for enough time something profound will eventually come out of their mouth, but this guy seems averse to wisdom.
>>340870286
>soulless
Surefire way to detect underaged baitboys.
>>340870461
Parallel dimensions.
>>340869901
You really can't. You don't even know anything about the garbage you're defending.
>>340869671
No, 64 has better controls, level design, more charming music and visuals and more movement options and variety in gameplay for sure. 3D world is good but its just a generic mario game with multiplayer, it has no character of its own.
>>340870421
Also, space level, japanese pagoda level, ghost ship level, Mario Kart level, snow level, castle level, train level, carnival level, stormy city sky level, dreamy pink sky world level...
>>340870475
Good way to spot the tasteless retards.
>>340869671
>but other people have done it
Prove me wrong
>>340870636
It says right in that picture that you can, you fucking cuck.
>>340870161
I'm talking about the controls here. Sm64's are better as they actually utilize the controller's control-stick for 3D movement. If you fail to grasp this and start going on some tirade about the Champion's Road have you even played the damn tutorial level?
>>340870739
Yes you are right. People who think newer Mario games are "soulless" ARE tasteless retards.
>>340870723
If those were Worlds, that would have been nice.
And not some nonsensical, scatterbrained, arbitrary amalgam of levels called a World.
>>340870636
>In multiplayer, it is used for boost mode.
Read before posting.
>>340870937
What "worlds" did Galaxy, 64, and Sunshine have?
>>340870474
Not really sure what you expect while watching his videos, as if you want something mind blowing or eye opening to drop from on high. What I find in his videos are well formatted reasoning and opinions that while not necessarily deep aren't typically obvious or superficial either, collated with quantifiable measurements, cited examples, and references to other commentaries (from devs or game press) into a nice presentation. Professional (literally) and well supplemented, if nothing else. I'd like to know where you do seem to get your supply of "wisdom" and "insight" you claim to not find it with MM, wondering if you have some other source for comparison?
>>340870894
>control stick
SM3DW did too? I'm legitimately confused as to what you're trying to get at, here.
>>340871134
Maybe play the games you talk about and you wouldn't have to ask.
>>340868421
Nintendo has pretty much confirmed they don't give a shit about Mario anymore. They only have Zelda on the menu. 3D World was just some shit they threw together because the WiiU needed a Mario game other than Not So New Super Mario Bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zdkhk5pSoA
>>340871186
But he is right.
>>340869658
>bowser is a cat
i'm sure the furries loved this one
>>340871050
He thinks those tiny, directionless, mishmash of shapes in 64 are "worlds" not levels.
>>340869671
>3D World is the natural evolution of Galaxy 1 and 2
why do you faggots keep repeating that lie
even the nintendo ead guys admit it's a side thing that was specifically done to bring in shekels from fans of the NSMB series, not the logical evolution of the 3d games
>>340869658
>the boss fight is literally hitting a pow block and you win
wow amazing 10/10 goat boss fight bro
>>340870161
>climbing walls with little chance of death compared to SM64.
But SM64 was piss easy too.
>>340871050
They didn't use worlds. All the better for it, unfortunately. SMB3 and SMW's worlds had multiple levels that fit the theme. Wish SM3DL and SM3DW had done the same.
>>340870930
You're trolling, confirmed.
>>340871263
They don't give a shit about games in general, Skyward Sword was unfun as fuck and completetly missing the point of a Zelda game. Nintendo is 'innovation' for the sake of innovation, but their innovation is only innovative because no other company can get away with what they do. Seriously swimming with motion controls, or Metroid Other M d-pad edition? Or Star Fox Zero? It's clear Nintendo doesn't give a shit as long as they can make Amiibo.
>>340871298
You're stupid
>>340871501
Remember when you had to aim at weakspots in Sunshine?
>>340869671
>3D World is the natural evolution of Galaxy 1 and 2
More like a devolution.
>>340871526
They didnt use worlds because they had so few levels, and the levels were just tiny sandboxes. Get some taste. 3D World is easily the best Mario game.
ITT: Wii U Stockholm Syndrome
64 > Galaxy 2 = Sunshine > Galaxy > 3D World
>>340871730
No, that would imply it was worse, when it was clearly better. Anyone with a brain can see that.
>>340872025
>3D World
>Better than Galaxy 2
See >>340871915
>>340871990
How dis you manage to get that list so wrong?
3D World = Galaxy 2 > Galaxy = 64 > Sunshine > 3D Land
>>340870808
>>340870939
Boost mode isn't actually co-op mode though.
>>340872152
Jesus that's just sad. Good luck with your debilitating autism though, anon.
>Sunshine is the best 3D Mario
>>340871186
Are you talking about being able to use the D-Pad? Because that's just silly when we do have a stick to compare to SM64.
I paid full price for SM3DW, and regret it.
>>340871513
Not if you're a little kid, it's not. Artificially moving through a 3D space is some shit to Nintendo's target market.
>>340871901
They could have, though. SM3DW and SM3DL did. SMG's Galaxies could essentially be that, if they had bothered to make, say, a different sandbox for each Star.
>>340873969
Dunno how anyone can say that with shit like the obscure Blue Coins, that last Chuckster, Pachinko, etc.
