Thoughts on new KF2 update?
Huh I forgot I had this game, is it worth playing yet?
Cant seem to find anything about sharpshooter being out yet.
Where did you get this?
>>340859812
Yes.
It's been stable for ages, and it already has more perks than KF1.
>>340860196
it's in Beta, and the weapons are in the game as nonperk guns.
>>340860196
Right click on the game list and opt-in the Beta in the Beta tab.
If Sharpshooter is in, I'm interested.
How many maps have they added from launch?
KF2 has THE most fucking retarded recoil ever.
It's unbeliveable annoying.
Literally ruined the gunplay.
>killing floor
>don't actually kill the floor
>>340859401
guns still have shit textures and sounds, they are totally unsatisfying to use
Really like the game, but I wish the weapon textures were better. Some look good and then you have the flamethrower that looks like it hasn't fully loaded yet.
>>340859401
do you still run slower than an old lady with a walking frame
I wont play until they fix the fucking movement speed or allow players to hack it themselves like they did in KF1
>>340860529
>using le chivalric swordsman skin
>>340860563
Nigga there's a sprint button. The hell are you talking about?
>>340860296
OPT IN TO THE BETAOF A BETA
>>340860725
To be fair, unless you're a Gunslinger, Berserker or Medic, sprint won't make you feel whole lot faster still.
>>340859812
No.
Devs are already jewing the fuck outta it while being WAY behind their planned schedule and adding shit no one asked for.
>>340860823
Does anyone even play the Versus mode?
>>340860725
Sprinting in KF2 is slower than the crawling at the beginning of MGS5
Fucking disgusting. I can only imagine the developers for this game have never walking in their lives
OR
It's artificial difficulty, like in Resident Evil, and Dead Rising, where you're forced to move at absurdly slow speeds because otherwise the zeds wouldnt be able to harm you if you could move at a speed even close to whats humanly possibly
>>340860808
I didn't know gunslinger got a speed increase as well. Though I only played it when it was first released. Still seems like a shit class no one knows how to use.
>>340859812
NO
>>340860226
OP AKA TRIPWIRE SHILL I KNOW THATS YOU.
They managed to fuck up KF2 even more with a retarded """resistances""" system where different enemies take less damage from different guns.
so now crawlers and stalkers take less damage from shotguns for example.
its dumb. never buy this shitfest
>>340861103
Gunslinger is OP as fuck.
>>340861189
Still more players than Battleborn though
>>340860686
Because the Watch_Dogs knock-off is so much better.
>>340861189
That's a pretty good number. I thought it would be around the mid three digits. Might bother to reinstall again.
>>340860927
>Sprinting in KF2 is slower than the crawling at the beginning of MGS5
only if you're overloaded, or using slower perks.
>>340860435
what the fuck are you talking about? what's wrong with it? please explain, i don't get it
>>340861362
>they finally added in new female character
>it's this abomination
why.jpg
>>340860226
fuck off
>>340861698
in a game full of metal, drumstep, even industrial music people are bothered by tattoos and/or a rockabilly character? jesus christ
she has an annoying voice though i'll give you that
>>340861698
>Let's pander to SJWs! Surely that has worked for games in the past!
Fucking unreal.
>>340862060
How is this SJW pandering?
>>340862060
Just shut up already. These kind of people existed back in my mother's hippie fucking days.
>>340861698
>out of all the Australian women they had to choose someone from Melbourne
Why do you have to choose our worst state to represent? Is it because you wanted someone ugly on purpose?
>>340861698
>Killing Floor 2
>in a dress
>>340862185
every female game character AND player is now an SJW. Didn't you know?
>>340862571
Girls don't play games.
>Railgun has auto-aim
Not sure what to feel about this.
>>340861105
>crawlers and stalkers take less damage from shotguns
>Small things have a resistance to shotguns
How does this make sense? They should be weak as fuck towards shotguns, everything but Scrakes and Fleshpounds should be weak to shotguns because they're fucking shotguns!
>>340862914
>>You can't toggle it on or off.
>>You don't get bonus xp for having it off and killing a zed.
>>340862914
They changed how it works though. You do less damage if you use the targeting system.
>>340862914
toggle it off and you get almost 100% more damage, retard
>>340863102
you must not know what you're talking about
>Auto lock-on damage decreased to 375
>Manual lock on damage 750
>>340862914
>>340863102
It's a rail gun
>>340862567
continuing were KF1 left
>>340862914
i like the idea of having a weaker autoaim version actualy.
it was probably designed for the ps4 audience too.
>>340863240
Wow, no need to be rude. The item description doesn't even tell anything about that.
>>340859937
>those shitty lowpoly screws on the scope
>>340860730
>It's a beta beta bro, they will patch it
>>340863303
those skins came long after the game had lost it's initial horror vibe.
now it's right out of the gate and it's unwelcomed and goofy as fuck.
>>340859401
man it makes me kinda sad when I remember how this game was actually decently hyped before its release
and now nobody even gives a shit because Tripwire can't get off their asses and just develop this game which by all rights should be their first priority at a half decent speed
>>340863032
>Zeds that almost always spawn in groups, asking to be shred to bits by shotguns
>Tripwire thinks its a good idea to give them resistances to it
I dont even know who thought of the retarded system of making them resistant to weapon types. Hell KF1 did a better job with resistances.
>>340859812 just wait for it to be out of early access, otherwise you'll just be disappointed
>>340863496
implying it will ever be released.
>>340863398
>low poly
http://images.wisegeek.com/socket-head-cap-screw.jpg
I uninstalled this shit when they had the gall to say that a fucking update with couple new perks and guns was a free content update.
>>340863585
>linking images on a taiwanese braille enthusiast forum
>>340860296
But it's a fucking beta already and EA
Why do I have to opt in to a fucking beta?
>>340863640
Yeah, that was really shameless of them. At least they didn't do it in the past 2 major updates.
>>340863398
If you're going to talk about anything being low poly, it should be the back half of that fucking flamethrower >>340860529
>>340861698
I can forgive Melbourne because music, but why the fuck would they choose rockabilly?
>>340863426
It's almost like it's a sequel which continues on after the first one, right?
>>340861698
>2016, the year of our lord
>not using the most righteous of men and ridding this world of evil in His name
>>340859401
>They finally fucking added sharpshooter
I honestly can't believe it's been almost a whole year. And now it's here I don't know what to think.
>>340864140
I would've used him more if it wasn't for the
>YEAAAHUGHHUUUUHH
>>340863769
its the shitty unblanced version before they tweak all the stupid new shit they put in and fix stuff.
Think they changed resistance and railgun already. Probably fix the achievements and cosmetics on the new character. Its so they have their special """"fixed"""" recently updated bump on steam without having the hateboner shitstorm in full swing like it is now
>>340861698
>Choose the worst part of Australia to base your next character on
>>340864290
Hateboner shitstorm is already in full effect since they don't fucking update the game.
It was supposed to be done by what, december 2015.
Since EA we go, 4 maps? 2 perks and 6 weapons.
>>340864159
the game came out April 2015
>>340864438
and they still haven't done the fleshpound sounds, which they promised to release/showcase with gunslinger
i'd refund it and buy it when it's done but i already got 175 hours in
>>340861698
>still no russian character mumbling about much communism, swearing at capitalism and hating on dosh
>>340861698
>"no bikinis. we want our characters to be viably fit for a zombie apocalypse"
>yeah okay sounds reasonable enough
>"Look we added some rockabilly slag wearinga dress and heels!"
>>340864642
But anon, we need more fat ugly females!
>>340864948
adding non British characters was a mistake
stop reminding me of this piece of shit
I will never get my money back
FUUUCCCKK YOU TRIPWIRE
YOU FUCKING SHITS
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU FUCK TRIPWIRE FUCK FUCK FUCK YOUUUUUU FUCKING FUCKS
>>340865118
it was only like 25 bucks man
>>340859401
>Steam rating dropped to 49%
What went so wrong?
>>340860435
Daily reminder.
anyone else play on that KF1 server where max level was orange and 5 stars and there was like 40 levels or whatever. i forget the name they had 3 servers and like 30 people on at once.
man i miss that
>>340865247
I could have bought actual good games with that money you know. Not this fucking piece of shit that I'll never play again for another second.
>>340860226
> stable
I'll be able to play it, but then the game will crash, and then crash more frequently, until simply restarting it will show the opening cards but the main menu is blank with the cursor in the corner of it and then it'll just freeze or crash again. Reinstalling does not help. Validating files does not help. This has happened on two separate computers. Legitimately unplayable.
>>340865118
>we're doing Early Access right
>done by Holiday 2015
>>340865486
KF2 was pretty good when I played it during the free weekends. Don't know if it's any worse these days though.
What went wrong?
>>340865649
they said they would do early release right, then they did it just as bad if not worse than everyone else. Them announcing RO2 Vietnam was a really bad sign
>>340865649
Slow updates
Cash Shop in fucking Early Access.
>>340865649
The game itself is good, could be great but some dodgy design and balance choices keep it from being so.
Everything else surrounding the game and the devs around it is pure, unadulterated wrong. If you want to know exactly what not to do when developing a game, just point at Tripwire and KF2.
Did they added the Xbow?
>>340865649
>Constantly say that they are gonna do early access right.
>At the time when most EA games update slow or are abandoned
>Months later they say they didint mean fast updates but they meant content that would come out bug free
I still dont know why they made it early access. Fucking KF1 had no content at the beginning yet still got updates and it wasnt considered EA.
>>340865836
>Them announcing RO2 Vietnam was a really bad sign
i wish it was that, they aren't even making RS2... it's the developers of RS1
also >RO2 vietnam
>>340866041
Its been in the game for a while now and its pretty OP.
>>340859401
Is the game any good for soloing?
>>340862571
>every female game character AND player is now an SJW. Didn't you know?
This.
>>340866143
It's playable but a lot more fun playing with others.
>>340866058
Official release will come with the PS4 version probably.
>>340862060
How fucking retarded are you?
w h y
>>340863368
That's what you get for assuming.
Is KF1 still alive
>>340859401
shit
resistance ruined the entire game
>>340866296
>Before
Metal as fuck toned spawn of satan scientist,
>Now
Heavy video game enemy number 10121314 with conflicting design elements.
>>340866296
I honestly don't really like either Patriarch design
I actually think it being less human looking is a good thing but not like this...
>>340866296
They gave the role of the scientist to the other guy so he has to be a hulking monster now. It's either that or you can blame consoles.
Either way the original was basically perfect, a super-tall and imposing nerdy CEO with a giant machine gun/rocket launcher. I don't get why they needed to mess up with that.
>>340866296
Longer mutation = Worse mutation
>>340866549
New patriarch is supposed to be the same guy. That's what gets me.
>>340866296
The glasses' frame always get me.
It make him looks like he's wearing a shade.
>>340866550
Fuck you John. You probably fired all the good concept artists.
>>340866296
Don't be mean to kevin, he's trying.
>>340861105
>>340863032
>>340863487
You want to know just how UTTERLY FUCKING RETARDED the resistance system is?
Firebugs get bonus xp from killing crawlers, because setting a bunch of spiders on fire makes sense.
The new resistances make crawlers take ALMOST ZERO DAMAGE FROM FIRE.
>>340864036
well it's a good thing the game is fucking shit as it is.
>>340866652
>New patriarch is supposed to be the same guy.
>>340861698
This screams "Trying too hard"
>there are people who don't play Scully every game
>you trusted Tripwire
Hows the gunplay?I hope they didnt fucked it up
>>340866296
Right looks like Togoro.
>>340867340
Not bad. The recoil is kinda excessive, and some of the weapon sounds are a bit weak, mainly the 9mm.
>>340867078
Officer Briar is where it is at.
>>340861698
>this triggers the /v/
>>340867078
>there are people stupid enough to buy the collectors edition of an EA game
>>340863398
I kinda want to say 'it's early access' but with the speed of the updates who knows if or when they'll fix it
I FOUND THE CONSOLE BABY >>340860435
>tfw 245 hours in and still enjoy the game
>>340859401
Oh shit they released sharpie?
>EBR is back
>With a scope
Fucking why? Does it at least have the laser sight?
Why did they even release this in Early Access, it was clearly a huge mistake
>>340867340
>Hows the gunplay?
Bretty gun, the game is still pretty different though, maps are smaller and you have to move more.
>>340867108
just fuck my shit up
>kf1 was pretty rad
>kf2 will probably be good.. yeah
>it's fucking dog shit
>>340861698
I'll never understand why westerner devs are so afraid (or perhaps incapable) of making hot women for their games.
>>340862914
>Health bar
>>340867961
Yeah I thought the scope was pretty dumb too. It does have a laser sight and for some reason it can't be toggled on or off. But yeah its just as effective as it was in KF1.
>>340866972
>>The new resistances make crawlers take ALMOST ZERO DAMAGE FROM FIRE.
see, now shit like this makes me not what to play the game. I got turned off of warframe because they changed resistances and added a bunch of new damage types, now tripwire is heading down a similar path
I just want to shoot shit, I don't mind a few logical counters like firebugs not being very effective vs husks because they're both firebased but when they just start throwing resistances are the weakest mobs like crawlers it tells me that tripwire has no idea what they're doing.
>>340859401
is it as fun as KF1? I was thinking about getting it during the summer sale.
>>340868021
You know why
>>340868268
Western games just tend to have less pandering since they don't think that everyone in their audience are otakus.
>>340868392
>>The new resistances make crawlers take ALMOST ZERO DAMAGE FROM FIRE.
Wait, what?
I thought Firebug were made to deal with Crawlers?
>>340868268
>i cant comprehend the notion of of a female character whose main purpose isnt to be hot
>>340868268
Because cute women don't go well with a hyper realistic grime and edgy brownbloom aesthetic.
You have to go at least slightly cartoonish to pull it off.
>>340868596
you misquoted but I thought so too
FB was always the trash clearer, they're shit for killing anything tougher than a bloat/husk but they wipe out everything weaker than that with ease
>>340868372
At least that's good to know.
Once you get in the groove with it it's so satisfying.
>>340868654
>make a character who isn't hot
>gets used as evidence for why eastern games are better
Don't be silly, anon.
>>340868735
>hyper realistic grime and edgy brownbloom aesthetic
None of that applies to Killing Floor though.
>>340868654
You are naive, waifus sell, that's one of the reasons Battleborn never had a chance against Overwatch.
Blizz understood this very well, and now they keep playing the game of deleting OW porn but not before asking all gaming websites to tell everyone about it, making people get curious about said R34 and ultimately buying the game because their dicks need more of it somehow.
>tfw I literally couldn't care less about the women in killing floor
were there even women in killing floor 1 apart from the trader? I picked davin every game so I don't remember the other characters
>>340868268
Different standards in technology. Flat colored 2D normally doesn't appear well out of Japanese games. Western games can have awesome looking girls, but for some reason, no one seems to know how to make a good face of a good looking girl, so they add a bunch of curves and fat to make it 'realistic'. It's fucking possible to not make it trash using current technology. Usermade Fallout 4 characters can be pretty good looking, but 90% the vanilla characters look like shit.
>>340869154
You are delusional if you think fanservice is the only thing that OW had over BB.
>>340869345
>no one seems to know how to make a good face of a good looking girl
I actually like killing floor 2, but I have this gigantic gripe with how welding is fucking pointless now. It was such a huge part of the first game it feels really weird that its been nerfed to hell. Also I kinda wish they would do something with the crawlers. I can't remember if they could do it in KF1 but I feel like they should be able to walk on ceilings and walls like the lickers from resident evil. Game has a lot of potential, but its definitely lacking in some areas.
>>340869516
Like that anon said, no one seems to know how.
>>340869390
>that's one of the reasons Battleborn never had a chance against Overwatch.
>that's one of the reasons
>one of the reasons
Reading comprehension, anon.
>>340869345
Adding on:
Also, some people have families with wives and all. Jealousy is also an issue into women here, and add to the fact that we have super realistic better than real life rendering in games, some folks just feel uncomfortable making characters looking better than the lady they wanna stick it into irl.
>>340869728
That's some pretty poor backtracking m8.
>>340861698
She's cute. I'd play her.
I fail to see how this is cancer compared to weeb trash
>>340869753
Yeah Japanese people don't interact with each other in any way. And there are no female artists either.
>>340869680
You could try harder.
Did they add in 2 new maps this patch?
>>340865278
Probably the fact that they lured everyone into an 'open beta' with the promise of a speedy and transparent development cycle only to add 1 update every three months and add fucking cosmetic dlc several months in with the game not even being nearly finished.
They fucked up bigtime and for once the community realized how badly they got fucked in the ass.
>>340869154
>You are naive, waifus sell, that's one of the reasons Battleborn never had a chance against Overwatch.
battleborn never stood a chance because it's a shit game from a shit company and no number of waifus could save that game from failure
>>340870270
Honestly that sounds like their normal updating schedule with the original Killing Floor.
They probably shouldn't have gone Early Access, or at least do that for so long.
>>340870270
it's not even just cosmetic DLC it's full on trading cancer that CS:GO and TF2 have which means if you something that looks cool you either have to spend a lot of money for it on the market or gamble with keys and crates
>>340870523
Why does it matter though? It's still just a weapon skin no one but yourself will see.
EARLY
ACCESS
DONE
RIGHT
BOYS
https://youtu.be/tlFE2pOImzY
>Add in Sharpshooter
>it's ok
>Add in a stupid SJW female character wearing a dress
I came close to reinstalling. Close call.
>>340870649
Are there DLC weapons other than the Chivalry sword?
>>340870735
Not that I've seen yet.
>>340859812
Not really.
>>340870731
>dress and high heels
>thinks that counts as SJW
>>340870649
because the game is lacking in cosmetic content and it's still in early access
they're basically saying 'our game is incomplete but we're going to sell bits and pieces back to you anyway'
>>340859812
>Huh I forgot I had this game, is it worth playing yet?
Was fun for a few hours on my side, buy it on sale or wait for a free weekend to try it.
>>340861698
Who the fuck are they pandering to? Do these mongoloids seriously believe SJWs actually PLAY Killing Floor?
The only people who care about this ugly feminist-trope of character are the devs themselves, who are probably patting themselves on the back over how progressive they are. Tripwire are so hopelessly disconnected from their community, there's about 0% chance KF2 will ever become a good game.
>>340859812
No, unless you like waiting months and months for actual updates, incompetent devs, a CS:GO style cash-shop, downgraded zed mechanics from the first KF.
The only thing this game has going for it is updated graphics and a gore system, so it looks nice in short webm's but really shows it's true colors after you've played several matches.
>EBR is sooo fucking good
>But want to use Rail Gun too
Fuck.
>>340870996
>>340871181
I am a "SJW" and I play Killing Floor. Now please go back to reddshit.
>>340871330
>downgraded zed mechanics
That's just pain not true. Just the FP and the Scrake have a lot more moves.
The resistance system sounds absolutely awful.
I actually had very few complaints about the game until the resistances. It sounds awful.
>>340871479
>reddshit
Trying too hard there, buddy.
>>340870847
>ignoring the dyke hair
>ignoring the trashy tattoos
>ignoring the fatness
>ignoring the manjaw
I guess if people like you have such low standards for women, it means more actually attractive ones for the rest of us.
>>340871364
Winchester/Railgun all day every day.
>>340871619
>I guess if people like you have such low standards for women, it means more actually attractive ones for the rest of us.
You went too far brah, it's too obvious now.
>>340871575
Sometimes 4chen doesn't allow me to post posts with the word reddit in it. Now please return to your natural habitat.
>>340871896
That wasn't even me that posted the original.
You seriously want a shitty looking female that has no style, or relevance to the game whatsoever in it? This is why I don't play the game anymore. Either people agree that it's turn too shit, or people are too far up Tripwires ass to see any reason.
I heard it takes like 3-5 headshots to kill trash now. Is this true?
>>340872054
Not him, but, hating SJWs is pretty par here, ya?
Or anywhere.
I mean they're bad, mean, nasty people.
Can we just talk about the new animtions for a moment.
They animated every gun like the players has stress balls for joints, it's way too jumpy and clashes with the realistic aesthetic thing they have going on.
KF is still one of my favorite games because of how good the 1st person animations are, the dual .44 magnums are still one of my favorite guns to use of any game because of how well animated they are.
>>340869672
Welding was overpowered in KF1 though.
A couple of welds and suddenly everything is spawning wherever you want.
They should just make them stop teleporting and it'd be great.
>>340872481
>dual .44 magnums
???
>>340872474
You need to stop watching Trump speeches. It's bad for your young brain.
>>340872593
I've never seen one in my life, actually.
False dichotomies are worse for your argument.
>>340872172
>You seriously want a shitty looking female that has no style, or relevance to the game whatsoever in it?
I enjoyed using the chicken suit in the first Killing Floor. The only outrageous thing about the design is the red dress and that's no more clashing than the design of other characters.
>>340871640
>Winchester
>Not calling it the LAR
>>340872452
No. Most weapons that would decap in one still do (rifle rounds, desert eagle, etc.)
The LAR got nerfed into not decapping Husks and Bloats as well (which wasn't really a LAR nerf but more like a Bloat/Husk buff I guess - I still don't know exactly how their resistance system works). Xbow also got nerfed which I'm fine with, they were just broken good in the last update
>get rare gun and sell for $10
Thanks Zedconomy retards
>>340872687
I am sorry but it's too obvious, there is no need to hide the truth and no need to be ashamed of it either.
Also you are getting the wrong fallacy there too. I guess they don't teach logic classes at your high school.
>>340872481
>They animated every gun like the players has stress balls for joints, it's way too jumpy and clashes with the realistic aesthetic thing they have going on.
They used motion capture to animate the guns though, I am not sure what could have gone wrong there.
>>340873101
>wrong fallacy
>if you disagree with me you must be a trump supporter! yup! no other possibility!
>A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither. Note that the example given above is not mutually exclusive, since the test and the program could both be wrong.
3 seconds in google.
>>340861698
>adding Zoe Quinn to KF2
>>340873070
>tfw I only get terrible 10 cent items
>>340873304
It would be that fallacy if I actually said that. Either way you should realize it's obvious from the way how you are perfectly mimicking his manner of speech in your posts. Normal humans don't speak that way.
>>340873605
Pretty good bait.
I'll give you a 7/10.
>>340870713
>>340870713
In fairness, yes, the game does play well.
But.
Yeah. This is accurate.
And the resistance system is just awful.
>>340872758
u wot m8
>>340866550
This is how you do mutations right.
>eight classes now
>more zeds than KF1
>two bosses instead of the same boss every time
It could definitely use more maps. But those will be added with time. Already there's more interactive content in KF2 than in KF1. It's just a matter of getting the levels in and balancing the classes.
The release of KF2 was slow, and content was pretty sparse, with few maps and classes. But it was solid and showed the potential of the game. I'd be playing it now if my video card didn't blow up.
>>340874001
Thats not Insurgency
The game is stupid on many occations but it fulfills the role of being a "casual co-op FPS" that I don't see that many other games provide.
>>340860529
Does the flamethrower still make everything fucking lag all over the place?
>>340869516
Dota 2 have the most beautiful western girl faces.
>>340875375
Sorry that looks just as stupid.
>>340861698
>"Haven't these Zeds ever heard of style?"
HAVE YOU? You don't have the right to criticise anyone you fucking fat fossil.
>>340865072
>"Japanese" character
>actually raised in murrica and due to some contrived excuse acts like a stereotype
I bet they thought that was SO funny.
>>340859401
beserker is still fucked, useless and unable to even fight beyond normal difficulty, its fucking infuriating
I can't see one good reason why anyone would play this over kf1. Game is shit.
>inb4 MUH GRAFIX
>>340878316
They're revamping zerker perks apparently.
might be cool.
>>340878790
no, they didn't, i playde it, they ripped out almost all of its stats and just put them into the perks, meaning not only is he still just as useless as before, but now half the perks are useless because the other half are mandatory in order to make it not complete shit.
whoever is in charge of balance knows fuck all about melee classes, especially considering zerker has the least synergy with its weapons than any other class.
I feel bad for buying it but then I remember that I bought it with money selling steam cards.
>>340872535
>useful = overpowered
>>340878316
They have never been able to get Zerk right. He has always been too strong or too weak
Must be annoying trying to find the right balance for a melee class in a FPS. On the one hand it must be unrealistically effective just so it can hang with gun users, on the other it can easily get out of hand since it basically has infinite ammo, high movement speed and HP and is meant to go "toe-to-toe with the big zeds" as per its KF1 design mantra which they won't ever abandon
I'm not digging the Firebug nerfs either. He was probably a bit too good in KF2 but if he just becomes a low rent commando/support nobody's gonna use him
torrent where:^)?
>>340879542
It has more to do with how the spawning and AI worked
It'd be fine if the zeds focused on breaking the doors down and still spawned near the doors
Instead they spawn wherever it's easiest to get to the players and even if a large group spawns near the door, only 2-3 stay to wail on it, while the rest go around.
It's the reason why it's so easy to solo biohazard
>>340879561
firebug should be a high efficiency, slow kill crowd control that emphasizes covering large areas.
demo is low efficiency but quick and high damage crowd control that can hard stop rushes
zerker should be a high endurance unit that can move and assist freely, and when something like a fp or scrake roll in, he draws aggro and stalls it so allies can take it down with minimal risk. and when they arent around can act as a mobile cock block tor cleanup in case of a broken formation.
beserker should also be insurance if a teamate goes down, as he can pick up the slack without risk and can share the extra money he earned with the dead guy when they re spawn..
>>340879282
the new beta build?
Damn, sucks man.
>>340879561
Apparently they didn't nerf firebug, they just buffed all the fucking zeds with resistances that make no sense.
>Rail Gun ridiculously overpowered
>Female character in the middle of an apocalypse is wearing a big untouched dress with le badass tattoos
Other than that, I like the new update. The maps are pretty good.
I still don't want to put more time into it until they actually put more than five hours worth of content into the game.
>>340880585
>Crawlers
>A literal spider is resistant to fire
Way to go against 40 years of vidya logic there
>>340880732
Is that actually Daniel Dumile?
>>340880926
yeah
>>340860296
>Right click on the game list and opt-in the Beta in the Beta tab.
You can't make this shit up...
BETA IN A BETA?
>>340880862
I am 100% with you.
The resistance system they're doing now seems to be totally off base.
>>340880862
Hopefully they'll pull their heads out of their asses and fix it. That kind of thing seems like a bug if anything, crawlers are supposed to be weak to the firebug.
>>340859401
Godawful.
They introduced resistances per zed. Said resistances are somehow even worse than zedconomy; which was already a colossal fuck you to the player base, by being completely arbitrary and the opposite of the "subtle changes" they call them.
A quick list of some exemples is
>crawlers: fire 0.3, shotgun 0.35 (note that firebugs still get bonus xp for killing crawlers despite needing a quarter of their ammo to kill a pack now)
>bloat: everything except fire sub 0.4
>gorefasts: sub 0.7 accross the board, can tank a scar headshot
>stalkers: 0.25 to shotguns,0,3 to fire, 0,3 to explosives
>husks: 0.5 or sub to assault rifles, handguns and melee
>sirens: 0.7 to assault rifles, 0.6 to handgun, 0.5 or under to melee, 0.3 to fire
>scrakes: 0.8 to handguns and shotguns
And that's not exhaustive at all.
They were obviously introduced to balance VS (which btw is limited to 4 waves normal) since anyone who knew his way around the game could solo the entire thing if they were careful, but they were also added to survival, fucking it up beyond measure.
Also they're still on their bad aesthetics ride, see>>340861698, and compare it to pic related
. "Follow the same design process for men and women", my ass.
Have I mentioned they neutered zerk?
>reduced damage bonuses, health, movespeed accross the board
>removed knockdown
>the new affliction system essentially removed bashes affecting zeds
And the final nail in the coffin
>we felt that blocking and parring was to OP due to taking almost no damage when you do so, so we tuned this down
>Pulverizer
>Explosive radius reduced to 225 (was 300)
>Parry mitigation blocks 40% damage (was90%)
>Block Mitigation blocks 40% (was 50%)
Which is to say, there is NO POINT TO PARRYING ANYMORE. They're preparing the game for the PS4 release, and it shows.
I just want to see them pretend they're doing good at E3 at that point.
>>340861698
IS THIS REAL?
Holy shit, I haven't played this game in months, and this is the shit we get?
Why is she Australian? This game is IRL Shitposting...
>We don't want to add silly characters and unconventional items
>Let's add a chick wearing a dress instead!
>>340881534
explain how resistance numbers work. is a lower number more resistance or less? is 1.0 100%? is .7 70%?
kinda curious.
>>340864642
fucking this
>>340876670
>I'd be playing it now if my video card didn't blow up.
are you me?
>>340866058
>>Months later they say they didint mean fast updates but they meant content that would come out bug free
That's a good joke. The laast update fucked with the bosses healing. Sometimes hans doesn't heal at all now, doesn't even attempt to grab someone, and other times Patty just regains his health with no animation whatsoever.
>>340881906
it multiply the damage by the indicated value, meaning its a chaos nerf to everything.
>>340864948
wow, you are being very insensitive towards our modern day society, you fucking pig!
...now bow down and give your condolences to the slaves, the six million, the sufferage movement and being absolutely haram
>>340870247
Officially added community made maps to the roster.
One of them has obvious pathing issues and some of its rooms are eye searing.
>>340871181
A lot of chicks actually got into KF1 after they added a lot of girls.
>>340862914
>>340868328
Hans has a fucking health bar now?
What the fuck is going on...it wasn't even difficult measuring his health beforehand.
>>340866972
Really? That's messed up. Hope the devs realize this. Maybe it was an unintentional bug?
>>340881534
Parrying still causes a stumble right?
What the fuck are they thinking? Doesn't crossbow have 100% damage to everything now?
>>340866296
should have kept the mustache
>>340866972
I see no issue, firescum.
>>340881906
It's a flat multiplier. When I say
>crawlers: 0.3 to fire
it means crawlers take 30% of the total damage from fire type damage.
That's right, firebugs get bonus xp when killing zes that have 70% damage resistance to all but their tier 4 weapon which you keep for big zeds.
Remember how I said they neutered zerk?
>slashing: clots, cysts and slashers 0.5, bloats 0.5, crawlers 0.7, gorefasts 0.5, stalkers 1, husks 0.45, Sirens 0.45,
>bludgeon: clots, cysts and slashers 0.5, crawlers 0.6, bloats 0.3, gorefasts 0.6, stalkers 1, husks 0.45, sirens 0.5
Every trash/medium zeds save for stalker and crawlers has 50% or more damage resistance to zerk weapons, on top of his nerf. Have fun!
>>340883123
>>340882149
Holy shit that's banana fudge tapioca levels of stupid.
>>340870523
>>340870649
The main reason people are upset about the whole micro-transaction bullshit is because they could have used that time and work to put in actual content and finish up the Early Access development.
Who gives a shit if they add it in after EA, it would probably help make the game last longer. But to add it before all the perks, patches, maps, and EA itself? Unforgivable.
We are only now getting Sharpshooter and even that is in the beta version. Everyone has been asking for this since day one but instead they added hats and keys/crates. Fuck that bullshit.
>>340877640
Look at where his face ends up after the prolonged mutation. It's still the same guy. It's objectively good.
>>340880997
Damn. That looks like some tasty macaroni too.
>>340866267
So this is Loudout all over again?
>>340882926
If you parry one of the few parryable attacks, then yeah. It works on about half of scrakes' moves and 0 of fleshies attacks because lol balance, and there's no point to it for the rest.
But mostly it means bosses are now the benny hill show, 50% damage is still enough for hans to 2/3 lunge you to death if his AI decides it, while before you could see a commando/medic duo kite him thanks to the katana and parrying his lunge to survive. Now it's even more defavorable to slow perks.
>>340862914
>Railgun
> Auto lock-on damage decreased to 375
> Manual lock on damage 750
> This weapon is meant to be our highest single target DPS dealer, we reduced damage in auto target mode to reward skilled play
>the most played are BY FAR Briar, Masterson, Foster and Ana
>so instead of making a female version in all but name, they made a heels and dress character
Makes perfect sense.
