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>he doesn't main Black
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>>340858392
The new arc started already?
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>>340858392
>isn't actually black
Would have been funny
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>>340858473
Yes.
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What the fuck is the point in having Mai in the promos and intro if they were just going to kill her off in the first episode?
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>>340859398
She will come back
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>>340859398
Thanks for the spoiler anon
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>>340859398
>>340859582
Trunks will probably jump to the future with Goku and Vegeta
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>>340858392
he will be added as dlc
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>>340859398
>What the fuck is the point in having Mai in the promos and intro if they were just going to kill her off in the first episode?

To have a reason for Trunks trying to rape Mai in the present
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>>340859673
It aired like half a day ago, it's your fault if you haven't watched it yet.
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>>340858392
Will Vegeta finally kick Goku's ass without actually killing real Goku?
or will real goku handle it by spirit bomb as always
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can someone give me a quick summary of the universe 6 arc I really don't wanna watch it
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>>340860175
I actually haven't watched Super with the exception of the first 3 episodes when they first came out
This is the first arc that actually interests me and I want to watch.
Thanks for the spoiler again anon
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>>340860306
punch punch kaiouken x 10 punch za waarudo punch hayai! punch and then god himself appeared
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>>340860408
i bet there will be someone more powerful than that guy by the very end of super.
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>>340860306
Champa (Beerus twin brother) is the God of Destruction in Universe 6. He visits Beerus and tries out food from Earth in Universe 7 and falls in love with it. He finds out the Earth of Universe 6 is devoid of humans because they fought until extinction so he challenges Beerus to a tournament between their universes with Earth 7 as the prize for Champa and the Super Dragonballs as the prize for Beerus.

They fight and Beerus team wins because Hit (the strongest in Universe 6) decided he didn't want to be a puppet of the Gods. Just before Hit is about to get killed by Champa the King of Everything shows up and says he wants to hold a fighting tournament with all 12 universes participating. Then Beerus uses the Super Dragonballs to wish Universe 6's Earth's humans back to life so that he can enjoy Earth's food in his own universe.

Now they are training for the all universe tournament when all of a sudden Future Trunks comes back from the future to look for help once again in fighting what seems to be an Evil Goku named Black. Still no idea who or what he is but we'll be finding out more info dumping next week hopefully.
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>>340859398
She's not dead. Trunks will leave her behind, but when he comes back to the future with Goku and Vegeta she'll still be alive and pissed at him for leaving her. Instant drama.
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>>340860306
U7 team is Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Buu, Nipples (Monaka)

U6 team is Winnie the Pooh, notFrieza, notVegeta, Robot, and Hit

Buu is too much of a retard to compete, Piccolo jobs, Vegeta jobs, Hit is the only strong u6 fighter.

Goku v Hit is the only good fight. It's even until Goku has enough of Beerus' shit and quits. Hit feels the same way and loses on purpose to Nipples and U7 win the tournament.
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>>340860175
>half a day ago
At least wait for a week, you autist.
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>>340860810
Nigga she took a straight ki blast to the face, she's dead.

and why would she be mad when she's the one who decided to sacrifice herself so Trunks escapes?
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>>340860306
Goku loses twice
Vegeta carries the team
Hit is the only good fighter on U6 team and he gives up after beating Goku
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>>340860408
>kami is god
>no actually there is this dude called Kaiyo Sama that is the greatest god
>actually Kaiyo Sama is just one of four and not that special
>Kaio shin and his race is actually the real deal when it comes to gods, never mind the others
>actually the Kaios are shit and there is this dude called Beerus who is the strongest god out there and he even says who lives and dies in the whole universe
>well actually there is this little god who is the the king of the universe and there is the god dragon who was most likely created by an even bigger and stronger god
When will this end?
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Who is...Black?
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>>340860959
IF YOU HAVE TIME TO BROWSE /v/, YOU HAVE TIME FOR ANIME!
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What if Black and the other Kaioshin in the OP are the result of forcing apart the fusion of the Potara earrings?

Would explain why Black only has one.
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>>340861134
Goku possessed by niggers
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>Evil Goku.
Toriyama, this has been done before.
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>Trunks goes apeshit because his dead waifu
>Obtains super sayian blue without the requirements because lol I forgot it had prerequisites already
>Despite beating Black he pulls so fuckboy shit like using Mai's dead body as a shield
>Kills Trunks while he hesitates to land the final blow
>Black steals time machine and travels back to present time because super dragon balls I wanna be the strongest yadayadayada
>Gohan gets his ass kicked, irrelevant Z Fighters defeated by Black's minions, Piccolo beats minions but is wrecked by Black, Vegeta jobs
>At last minute Goku appears goes Super Saiyan Blue 3 and saves the day with combined energy spirit bomb
>This somehow revives future trunks and he goes off to became Time Patrol Trunks, Super ends and the tie into Xenoverse 2 starts

You have one reason to tell me why this WONT happen
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>>340861248
Wouldn't Vegito count as a forced separation?
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Vegeta jobbing to Black Goku is almost a given, right?
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>>340861248
Maybe is an evil Supreme Kaio that fused with dead Goku.
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>>340860326
The first 25 episodes are just the movie recaps done worse, skip all that and then it's new content.
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>>340861392
No Ant shit. Turles needs the respect he deserves.
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>>340858663
>green kaio has white hair
>toriyama said the next villain has white hair

black is not the true villain.
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>>340861248
No, it being pic related will be the twist
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>>340861392
It's not Evil Goku though, it's Baby Goku.
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>>340861415
That's what I meant, Vegito and Kibito Kai both undid what is supposed to be a permanent fusion.
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Can someone explain Mai to me? Isn't she supposed to be old at this point?
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Apparently you cant' change the broken disk tray with another one because hurr piracy, so be it then.

I remember there was a method to hack the XBOX 360 without relying on any external hardware. But I lost it for I never made use of it.

I know lots of you hacked it to play imported japanese games, what did you use?
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>>340861605
That is confusing but I think it's implied that the Pilaf gang made their wish to become young again during the time inbetween Freeza coming to Earth and the Androids appearing. If they became infants it would explain why they are about the same age as Trunks.
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>>340861605
She turned young in Super.
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>>340861684
Kaioken
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>>340861605
plastic surgery
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>>340861427
Of course, Vegeta will be winning at first but Black Goku will go Super Sayian God Super Sayian 2 Super Sayian Blue 2 and gain infinite power. Defeated by Goku's spirit bomb
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>>340861684
super saiyazin god super saiyajin genkidama kaiouken x 10
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>>340858521
It's not the 90's anymore ;_;
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>>340861427
Considering both Goku and Vegeta are going to go to the future to fight him already, they're both going to job to him.
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>>340861495
oh shit....
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Theory time: Black is Goten.
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I'd want Piccolo to have the final fight to have the irony of a good Piccolo verses an Evil Goku but it will never happen
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>>340861486
You might have noticed those earrings.
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>>340861865
that's like mid 80s you faggot
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>>340861941
Except Goku died 3 years before Goten was supposed to be conceived so no.
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>>340861865
>Implying Killa isn't the best black guy in DBZ
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>>340862006
Close enough.
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>>340862006
Dragon Ball is old as shit,
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>Super's animation and overall quality is dogshit
>So bad even Toriyama complains

>Producer faggot does damage control in interview
>Even admits that he lets complete newbie animators on DB

They clearly don't give a single fuck about Dragon Ball beyond milking it.
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Since loli Mai is still a thing, is Trunks going to cuck himself? Is that even possible?
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>just 1 earring
He's not a fusion. He killed tye kaio in the opening and know is looking for someone to use the other earring. The question is, who?
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>>340862094
I didn't understand a single fucking word this nigga said
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>>340862131

This is Toei. They don't give a single fuck about anything.
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>>340862076
>3 years

What are you talking about? Goku didn't die before the androids appeared, he died at about the same time.

Even in the canon timeline they said that Gokus heart attack came too early and that was while fighting android 19 which takes place after the 3 years time skip.
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>>340861942
Piccolo is the Goku family bitch now. Babysits Pan, helps Chi-Chi with groceries, and even does Goku's job for him.
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>>340861486
What if Goku blue kicks black's ass then black and the green kai fuse to form the new white hair villain. They do have one earring on either ear.
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>>340862131
One piece is the most popular manga in hapn and they din't give a duck about the animation
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>okay tier
It's Demigra who only wants revenge on every incarnation of Trunks. Disguised as Goku to fuck with everyone
>low tier
It is Goku from another universe who went through a fucked up potara fusion
>shit tier
another "lost Saiyan" that looks like Goku but isn't him
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>>340862131
Toei is like your pic related. As a long as they can get the money the quality can go to hell.
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>>340861495
Whos is this guy? Is he from a game or movie?
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>>340861248
Didn't Kaioshin undo Potaras with no side effects, though?
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>>340862549
why are you in a xenoverse 2 thread if you haven't played xenoverse 1?
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>>340862549
Demigra, from Xenoverse. Final boss, and kind of a bitch.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3SLlPfdik

Are you ready for Super Saiyan Raditz?
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>>340861414
Watch after the credits.
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>>340858392
>potara earring
Who did he fuse with?
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>>340862808
turles
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>>340862649
Raditz is an odd guy. He almost isn't even a villain and had the patience of a saint
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>>340862595
I thought this was just a dbz thread, they are always decent off topic threads so I came.

>>340862627
Ah cool, well black has the same potara as him. Ive been meaning to play this game, if they tie the anime into the games plot that could be cool
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>>340862649
>Super Saiyan Raditz
How about Super Saiyan 3 Raditz?
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>>340860803
>Universe 6's Earth's humans back to life so that he can enjoy Earth's food in his own universe.
Beerus is from Universe 6?
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>>340862181
I'm of the same opinion, though I ain't 100% certain anymore now that he called Trunks "Sayan".
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So when is XV2 happening? I miss playing XV1, but nobody plays anymore.
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>>340862649
No, SSJ Nappa with a golden handlebar when?
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>>340862993
What I meant was that Beerus wished Universe 6's Earth's humans back to life so that Champa could enjoy Earth's food in his own Universe instead of having to travel to Universe 7 to eat Earth food. Basically being a good brother, although he says that he owed Champa in a tsundere fashion.
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>>340862991
Not for another 20 years.
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Super is awful

Toriyama has no clue what he's doing anymore
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Why does Trunks have blue hair?
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I don't understand, apparently the Black saga will involve the Gods but how does that work if they're fighting in the future? How will Whis and Beerus recognize Goku and Vegeta if they never met them in that timeline?
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>>340863246
tumblr
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>>340861941
Maybe it's Turles.
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>>340862909
Raditz is a little fuckboi
>Dad bravely attempted to take own fucking Freiza and his army solo died fighting
>Can see the future which is a GOAT super power
>Clearly capable of becoming at least a Super Sayain 3 seeing as he's genes are in Goku the savor of the universe and one of the most powerful people to ever exist
>Meanwhile with those same genes in his body Raditz is a weak ass faggot with a babby power level who gets killed as quickly as he appears
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>>340863394
How can it be Turtles? Why would Toriyama even care about Turles to this day?
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>>340858392
Looks younger than Goku.
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>>340862194
No one did
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>>340863126
Nice pic, thanks for posting it. Enjoy your ban though.
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>Super ripping off of Naruto now.
Black = Menma.
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SPOILERS : BLACK WAS GOTEN ALL ALONG
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>>340863246
Because Toriyama has designed Trunks and Bulma with the same hair color from the start.
Toei haven't budged on Bulma's hair color, so now he's trying to change Trunks' instead.
Now they're probably using it as a way to differentiate between future and present Trunks, since his VA spilled in an interview that they'll be aging present Trunks up at some point
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>people think Trunks had blue hair in the manga
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>>340863501
Maybe he's a bad Goten.
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literal semen demon
how faithful is she to her husband?
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>>340858663
is that adult pan?
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Goku and Vegeta will fuse to fight him
BUY DRAGONBALL FUSION FOR 3DS NOW
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>yfw this isn't the same Future Trunks and is actually Yamcha and Bulma's son.
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>>340863438
Him being Goku's brother is the most random thing in the franchise since it's really never taken as anything serious.
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>>340858521
WE
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How the fuck did Trunks manage to escape on the time machine with Black about to kill him?
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>>340863813
But how would that make sense if he goes Super Saiyan?

Would Yamcha be a Saiyan?
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>>340858392
>>340858663
>goku black's hair goes back to the way its supposed to be

>no shine details

>real goku still has that extra detail even in the anime

FUUUUUUUU
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Oh boy another variant of Goku to play as. Just what we need!
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>>340863954
Does Trunks go SS in the first episode of this new arc at all?
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>>340864006

But it has been decades since the last one.
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>>340864006
>Not wanting to play as more Gokus.
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>>340862317
>t is Goku from another universe who went through a fucked up potara fusion


Mid Tier- Another goku who when forced defused inside of Buu was given all of Vegeta's bad traits

Upper Tier - Its Vegito, but the vegeta side took over.
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>>340863813
Black calls him "Saiyan" at the end of the episode. Face it, Yamcha is beyond irrelevant at this point.
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>>340864006
its to counter the gohan menace
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>>340864108
But Vegeta wasn't evil anymore by that time.
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>they kill off Mai in the first episode of the arc

tooedgy4me
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>>340863752
it's Goku's second child in the future timeline, except instead of it being a boy (goten) it's a girl
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>>340864006
>He doesn't want all 11 Gokus to help him combat the return of the Gohan Army
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>>340864359
>killing off best girl
Super confirmed for shit.
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>>340864359

Are you serious or trolling?
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>>340864006
>Kid Goku
>Teen Goku
>Goku (Sayian Saga)
>Goku (Namek)
>Goku (SS1)
>Goku (Android Saga)
>Goku (Cell Saga)
>Goku (SS2)
>Goku (Buu Saga)
>Goku (SS3)
>Goku (Final)
>Goku (BoG)
>Goku (RoF)
>Goku (SSG)
>Goku (SSB)
>Goku (Super)
>Black Goku
>Kid Goku (GT)
>Goku (SS4)
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>>340864515
Does Turles count?
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>>340861110

ITS LITERALLY STARTING TO HURT.
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>>340864592
Turles should count.

Also add in Great Ape Goku and Golden Great Ape Goku.
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>>340863651
>There are faggots going around all the DBZ threads posting this in every one
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>>340864515
Don't forget the two SSJ1 upgrades, ascended and ultra.
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>>340864592
yes along with
>bardock
>goten
>low class saiyans
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>>340863651
This looks like a character editor when you have already chose your face but you try different hair and clothes.
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>>340864515
>Vegito
>Gogeta
>Gocule
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>>340861110
Popo told oyu about this in dragonball you fagola
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How are you coping with the loss?
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>>340858392
>he doesn't main gogeta
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>>340863515
>nothing sexual posted
>ban
hello summer friend, enjoy your stay
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>>340864780

Just when I thought this was series finally saved they do this. Super really is irredeemable garbage.
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>>340864780
>show Goku's muscles contorting from using Kaioken
>don't have Mai's head blow off or even bleeding from the Ki blast
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>>340864780
They can just wish her back with the Dragonb-
fuck
They can just wish her back with the Super Dragonballs?
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>playing XV
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>>340864780
>BLACKED

kek
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>>340859398
>What the fuck is the point in having Mai in the promos and intro if they were just going to kill her off in the first episode?

>Entire series is about alternate universes
>During an arc about time travel

Yeah, I bet she'll stay dead forever, that's where this is leading.
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>>340859398
To fuel Trunks' rage and go beyond his limits for his waifu. It's a callback to "muh Bulma" from Battle of Gods.
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>>340864847
You were saying?
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>>340864951
They could have just not shown her head/body to imply she's dead/a smoldering corpse
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>>340864780
I was so fucking hyped

and now I dropped the series again, probably not coming back this time
holy fuck
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>>340864592
>>340864635
>>340864657
Shit I forgot

>Kid Goku
>Teen Goku
>Goku (Sayian Saga)
>Goku (Namek)
>Goku (SS1)
>Goku (Android Saga)
>Goku (Cell Saga)
>Goku (SS2)
>Goku (Buu Saga)
>Goku (SS3)
>Goku (Final)
>Goku (BoG)
>Goku (RoF)
>Goku (SSG)
>Goku (SSB)
>Goku (Super)
>Black Goku
>Kid Goku (GT)
>Goku (SS4)
>Great Ape Goku
>Golden Ape Goku
>Goku (SS1 Ascended
>Goku (SS1 Ascended 2)
>Goku (SS1 Ultra)
>Goku (Turles)
>Goku (Vegito)
>Goku (Super Vegito)
>Goku (Gogeta)
>Goku (SS4 Gogeta)
>Goku (Deceased)
>Goku (False Super Sayian)
>Goku (Various Movies)
>Goku Jr.
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>>340864780
Just when I thought it was actually getting good again.

Fuck everything
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>>340865194
33 Gokus.
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I want to main Note in XV2.

and i want her to grab my dick while she's still wearing her gloves but that's unrelated
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>>340864780
these waifufag tears are delicious
black is the hero we need
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>>340860306
piccolo gets recked,vegeta kicks everyone's ass until goku HAS to have the lime light and loses to a guy named hit so goku knows how to beat him, goku and hit stalemate it out untill goku gets bored as hit isnt allowed to use his full power due to tournament rules as hes a killer and no killing is allowed hit quits aswell then god( preusambly god hes the boss of all the multiverses anyway) appears and thinks it was all hilarious and looks forward to the next tournament.

oh and goku can now go super sayin god super saiyan blue kaioken x 10 yes its got that extreme and they still cant beat beerus or whis
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>>340862131
Eh, I feel like it started to get balanced out after the Beerus arc. Not saying it's good, but it's not as bad as it was.
It's not as if DBZ had good quality most of the time either, you're just excusing it because "muh hand-drawn animation".
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>>340865378
And the hero our future deserves.
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>>340865194
You could also split Saiyan Saga Goku in pre-death (when he fought Raditz) and post-revive (Nappa and Vegeta)
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>>340865376
i hope black kills her
note a shit
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>>340865194
Don't forget Goku (Special Beam Cannon)
He fights with a hole on his chest and bleeds on everything
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>>340865549
She's a player avatar. They're effectively immortal.

Also, you're shit.
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Friendly reminder that Present Mai isn't dead and that her seeing Future Trunks care so much about her future self will cement the present relationship.
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How did Mai and Trunks become a thing?
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>>340865743
Pan fusion?
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>dragonball fanfics are becoming canon
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>>340865842
battle of gods
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>>340865842
She's a pedo.
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>>340864385
Oh fuck, that sounds pretty interesting.
Might give it a watch.
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>>340865842
mai got turned into a child met trunks on that cruise ship for bulma's birthday and he fell for her,
guess after some time she fell for him
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>>340865842
Toriyama's whims.
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>>340865780
friendly reminder that the girl seen in the future is Pan.
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>>340865842
Toriyama came back and wrote Battle of Gods, he wanted to give the series a more light-hearted, OG Dragon Ball vibe outside of battles so he brought the Pilaf gang back. He made them kids and realised that they could interact with Goten and Trunks since they're all around the same age now and they meet the same child demographic.
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>>340863775
Vegeta should just say screw wasting time on a long drawn out fight across the planet I want to continue training with Whis. Lets just fuse, defeat this guy and go back to training after we defuse.
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>>340860306
Watch Goku vs Hit. It was actually good.
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>>340860306
Just watch it, it's fun.
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>>340864780

Reminds me of Corporal Hart dying in the beginning of TS2, having said that, I feel this isn't the last we'll see of Mai
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>>340866129
I doubt that
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>>340864194
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>>340858392
>future trunks always gets shafted in his timeline
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hopefully more buufu lewds and monkey girl lewds
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>>340866275
Never stops being funny.
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>>340865474
>Kid Goku
>Teen Goku
>Goku (Sayian Saga)
>Goku (Namek)
>Goku (SS1)
>Goku (Android Saga)
>Goku (Cell Saga)
>Goku (SS2)
>Goku (Buu Saga)
>Goku (SS3)
>Goku (Final)
>Goku (BoG)
>Goku (RoF)
>Goku (SSG)
>Goku (SSB)
>Goku (Super)
>Black Goku
>Kid Goku (GT)
>Goku (SS4)
>Great Ape Goku
>Golden Ape Goku
>Goku (SS1 Ascended
>Goku (SS1 Ascended 2)
>Goku (SS1 Ultra)
>Goku (Turles)
>Goku (Vegito)
>Goku (Super Vegito)
>Goku (Gogeta)
>Goku (SS4 Gogeta)
>Goku (Deceased)
>Goku (False Super Sayian)
>Goku (Various Movies)
>Goku Jr.
>Goku (Pre-Raditz)
>Goku (Post King Kai's training)
>Kid Goku (Pre-Turtle School)
>Kid Goku (Turtle School)
>Kid Goku (Super Divine Water)
>Kid Goku (Demon King Piccolo Saga)
>Goku (Sayian Armor)
>Goku (Post Freiza, Pre-Mecha Freiza)
>Goku (Driving school)
>Goku (Gocule)
>Goku (Mr. Satan/Hercule's reiterated of the Cell games)
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Watch as Black Goku's name is changed to Dark Goku in the dub.
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>>340866232
:^)
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>XV2 Thread on /vg/
>more fucking waifu avatar fagging
>maybe more fembu porn

Silver lining, ho.
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>>340866324
>fembuu and fem saiyan fuse
>>
>The lanky ass tooth pick look of all the characters

When are the muscles coming back?
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How is blacku suposed to compete with Goku? They probably could've sent Trunks & Goten to deal with him instead. But I really wanted Ultimate Gohan to take care of him.
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>>340866129
Could have been so much better. Buu should have fought, No Monako, instead have some new powerful fighter on their team, not hit or goku level but strong. No picolo, maybe Bulma develops an android to help the z-fighters and says this would be a good test for it. Vegeta should have fought frost in the first fight, fresh fight and no tricks from frost. It would be the Frieza fight he should have got. Better animation and fight choreography would have been nice too.
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>>340866506
We don't even know the full power of Black.
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>>340864408
>11 Gokus to help him combat the return of the Gohan Army
might as well make a football team
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>>340866690
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>>340865842
She's a creepy degenerate, to be honest.
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>>340866487
when Gohan stops being a pussy
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>>340860408
You deserve a medal anon, because that is 100% accurate to what has happened so far in its abridged form.

When the chans 404
When the sun melts the earth
When you are dead and buried in the ground
The world will forever remember the post you made, the post that was amazing.

>Cries tears of manly joy
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>>340864805
>This is how Vegeta sees the Fusion dance
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>>340866690
He won't be able to touch SSGODSSJ Kaoiken Goku
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>>340866575
>implying monaka isn't the best thing about the tournament
>l-let's have bulma develop an android instead

fuck off retard
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>>340861468
Finally, I had given up after they finished the movie arcs (longer and even more boring), then went to the stupid ass slime vegeta. I hope this is as good as it looks.
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>>340858392

It's Future Goten via Time Breaker shenanigans
There, I just saved you 24 poorly animated episodes.
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>>340866838
How do you know he doesn't have his own? Plus, I think he's planning to fuse with someone powerful if that earring is any hint.
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>>340866838
You know this how?
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>>340866838
>Black: "I got a form that surpasses your silly SSGODSSJ Kaoiken."
Mark my words.
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>>340866973
BotG never took place in Future Trunk's timeline.
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>>340867075
What does the "GOD" stand for?
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>>340867159
But we don't know if Black is even from Future Trunk's timeline.
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He's coming back.

The best and strongest.

The only reason Kibito and Kai un-fused was to show that it was entirely possible, just so he can return without repercussions.

Prepare yourselves.
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>>340867194
God on Drugs?
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>>340866367
>Farmer Goku
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>>340863438
At the point of meeting though he was stronger than Goku and only lost because Goku let himself get killed to hold him in place long enough for Piccolo to kill them both.
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>>340867314
I'd honestly rather see them bring out Gogeta. Vegeto is pretty cool though, I will admit. I just cant think of a villain that could pose a threat to even SSJ2 Gogeta/Vegito
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>>340867368
>super /fa/yin goku
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>>340867484
what about a fusion of NBack and Black Vegeta?
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>>340866973
Future Trunks hasn't seen an enemy stronger than Cell until now. If Blacku was as strong as Goku now he eouldve wiped the floor with Trunks on the first encounter. They'll find a way to explain though.
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>>340867314
Why did they have to unfuse?
Can't they just remove their earrings and give them to other people? That's what Supreme Kai did even though he was fused.
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>>340867593
Fug meant Black
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Just admit it, GT was better. All these universes fighting for food? toriyama pls
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>>340867484

Vegeta will never do that prissy dance. If he has to fuse, they'll do Portara again now that he knows it isn't permanent.

I really wish they hadn't handwaved Vegito away in BoTG (Even though it was necessary to get the new form out and not trivialize the plot). I can't imagine how SSG Goku could ever be stronger than regular old SS Vegito.
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>>340867725
>GT was better
Lol, no. It's still shit.
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>>340862649
Can't wait!
I hope my waifu gets to do more stuff!
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>>340867725
GT was a little better yes, and not because of the plot as you seem to imply. They were equally stupid in the writing department and both still shit in the end.
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>>340867853
Vegeta will do the fucking dance. He already twerked for beerus.
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I might be remembering wrong, but didn't Toriyama say he really liked XV's plot elements and wanted to tie it into the "official" Dragonball Story?
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>>340858392
But I already main Demigra, what are you saying?
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>>340867853
Because I guess they wanted to scale down all the transformation shit.

This isn't a bad idea per se, but then they fuck everything up making new transformations and boosts. I honestly think the DBS writers haven't watched DBS, much less Dragon Ball or Z.

They do seem to have watched GT though, they keep vaguely stealing plot points from it.
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>>340868001
Vegeta is on fuckin point this season
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What is your fav opening senpai?
Mine has to be Dan Dan
>tfw you wil never go super saiyan 4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UNas6o7CdX8
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>>340861248
Chichi has the same kind of earrings.
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Why do Mexicans love Dragon Ball so much?
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>>340858392
Blacks a handsome man but I gotta main best husbando.
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>>340868096
How would he even be a threat? Wasn't he much weaker than the other gods?
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>>340868629
>liking a tubby bitch-boy and sore loser
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How is Mai around the same age as Trunks? She only got wished into a kid sometime after Buu, she should be like 60-70 otherwise.
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>>340868050
Xenoverse was based on DB Online, which Toriyama wrote the back story for. He created Towa and Mira and the Supreme Kai of Time. So yeah, wouldn't be surprised if he liked those elements.
Only Demigra was a Xenoverse-original character (though still based on Toriyama's ideas of Makaioshin), and the story itself is basically just a glorified prequel to DBO's story. DBO just throws you straight into Age 1000 after the fight between the Time Patrol and the Time Breakers (Towa and Mira) has already been going for a while. Xenoverse just shows us their first encounters, while giving us a different final boss just so there's some kind of closure to the story.
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>>340868619
Violence. It's like their home.
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>>340868783
Because reasons.
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>>340868783
>she should be like 60-70 otherwise.
No, she's in her 40's. It's stated outright in Battle of Gods.
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>>340868806
Adult Supreme Kai of Time when?
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>>340868783
Alternate reality shenanigans.
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>>340868876
thanks doc
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>>340868720
He has a right to be a sore loser. He legit won the tournament until Hit decided to give up. Goku probably wouldnt have been able to beat Hit, and Hit especially wouldve won if he listened to Champa.

And considering all that, he actually took his loss really well.
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>>340867368
I'm gonna be pretty mad if Goku's farmer clothes aren't in Xenoverse 2's character creator.
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>>340868676
He has no interest in fighting Beerus and Whis but apparently they can't let him roam free or some shit.

All he really wants is control over time and to screw over both Goku and Trunks
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>>340868876
thanks doc
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>>340868619
Because they used to play it on public tv
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>>340868958
The way Beerus talked he could've have easily waltzed in and fucked Demigra up.
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Hope he keeps his sword and actually use it combat from now on.
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>>340868876
>doc gets your post deleted and you banned now
wew mods you used to be cool.
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>>340868881

Yeah she was in her 40s in BoTG, when Trunks is still a kid.

So when Trunks is an adult some 15+ years later, she'd be in her 60s. Just like I said.
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>>340868958
>He has no interest in fighting Beerus and Whis but apparently they can't let him roam free or some shit.
Nah, Beerus just gets pissed off when Demigra tries to control him. Outside of that they don't give a shit about him.
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>>340864385
For realz? I thought it was Mai.
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>>340858392

NIGGA THATS GOTEN NOT GOKU
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>>340869149

It is Mai, you're being memed on.
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>>340869076
Yeah, Demigra is afraid of them unless he's in final form, then he acts like he can take them on.

>>340869135
I'm talking about their dialogue if they encounter each other in PQs though, since otherwise he doesn't even meet Whis in the story.

Though Beerus did stay around to make sure they actually beat Demigra
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I want more info on that Fusions game. They've shown multiple combos, and hinted that there were many more.
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>>340869196
>that's Goten
>Goku died in future trunks timeline a long time before they had time to conceive trunks

Yeah, no
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>>340867887
>Almost cowtits

Stop defiling her.
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>>340868982
>Used to play it
It's aired from monday to friday tho
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>>340869238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Eli_ivQh4

alright I was half right, he's still afraid of Whis
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>>340858392
DBZ lore is getting as bad as Kingdom Hearts.
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>>340869370
No!
>>
how will Trunks react to Gohan being a complete bitch now?
>>
how will Trunks react to Gohan being a complete bitch now?
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>>340869706
Uh...probably "Whatever, my mom is fucking dead."
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>>340868936
>legit won the tournament
>NotFreeza cheating
>setting up the stage so piece of junk had the advantage over Vegeta.
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>>340869678
Stop it.
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>>340869852
She's cute.
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>>340869850
They got Goku back and Vegeta allowed it so Frost cheating made no difference.
Same with Pooh, Vegeta won anyway.
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>>340869706
>trunks: isn't gohan comming to the future?
>vegeta: no he got lazy with his training
>goku: he even lost his gi
>trunks: nevermind at least we have you guys
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>>340864780
They'll wish her back to life with the Dragonballs like they do with everyone else. they'll find a way. ...right?
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>>340869852
Make me!
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>>340869935
She's perfect.
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>>340869852
dumb noteposter
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>>340870189
>>340870158
>>340869935
>>340869852
>>340869678
Why are posts being taken up discussing this generic bitch?
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>>340869852
When can girls go Super Saiyan?
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>>340870158
You'll run out of cowtits way before I run out of Real Note.
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waifufagging should be a bannable offence
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>>340870373
Wow just wow. Like I just can't even right now. You're literally raping women with your misogynistic comments.
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>>340870373
They could, they just never had the need to turn Super Saiyan canon wise so far.
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>>340870628
Saiyan women should just get back into the kitchen instead of turning SSJ.
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>>340870373
no
that one is from a shitty fanfic game
not cannon
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>>340861392
>tfw this fuckers name is Raditz in my version
confusing as fuck when I bought it when I was a kid
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Girls can't go super saiyan because -4 Str
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>>340858392
so black confimed DLC?
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>>340871008

Maybe they should get a belt for that.
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>>340870736
Female saiyans can fight just as well as the male saiyans. They should be allowed to take over planets just like the men.
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>>340871008
Girls can't go Super Saiyan because Toriyama is a senile idiot and can't figure out how to design one.
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>>340870948
What was Sweden thinking?
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>>340870373
Happens most often at a certain time of the month.
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>>340871165
They actually were before the race was exterminated.
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>>340869105
Fuck his shitty sword. It was only cool when he bopped king cold and frieza. The sword is a symbol of Future Trunks at his worst.
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>>340868862
>it's like their home

Can confirm that's true
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>>340871630
This, everyone gets so hostile here over anything wtf
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>>340858392
>he doesn't main ZA WARUDO
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>>340871521
Yeah until the cisaiyans oppressed us.
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>>340870373
Only happens in the games

Female sayans should never be powerful enough to turn SSJ.
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>>340871805
Are you saying Saiyan girls can't be strong?
>>
Super actually has some decent and cool characters like Beerus,Hit or Black and some more.


GT only had one cool guy, this mofo
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>>340859398
To get waifufag money. Watch as they make 3 different $100+ Mai figures, even is she only was relevant for half an episode.
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>>340872380
This. Never underestimate the power of the permavirgin waifufaggots.
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So will Mai be in Project Fusion so I can get muh 18 + Mai fusion
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>>340858392
does the show still look like shit?
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>>340861134
Considering how much slimmer and younger he looks than regular Goku, is most likely Goten. We all know Goten wasn't born in this timeline, but I really think Tori and Toei even remember those details, or even game.
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>>340871964
Seeing as how the ONLY female Saiyan alive is an infant, yes. It's okay that she overpowers Pilaf's gang, because they're comic relief and worthless otherwise, but considering that Pan is the only female in the canon story right now, there is no way for a female Saiyan to be strong yet outside of official side stories.
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>>340865194
I'm not seeing any Kaio Ken x1-100 Gokus, each one's red aura will have a one pixel larger radius than the last.
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>>340872495
New arc bumped the budget up.
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>>340871221
nice meme
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>>340864780
She had to die, if they're gonna make Trunk's true waifu canon.
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>>340858392
>adult mai is back
super giving us quality waifu material
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>>340873219
Don't get too hopeful yet, I'd say give it a few more episodes to see if it's consistent. They're trying to hype this arc up so they're using some of the budget now but they might just crap out completely later.
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>>340873551
It already did a while ago.
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We know Fusions will have ridiculous combos. Who do you want to fuse?

Imperfect Cell + Frost here.
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>>340862942
Dragon Ball Online is canon but they shut it down prematurely due to it doing poorly financially, it was written by Toriayama. Xenoverse is a continuation of DBO plot (well, technically it's more of a prequel to DBO) and supposedly had involvement with Toriyama as well (he's credited in the credits too) so if Demigra was one of Toriyama's unused ideas from DBO that didn't get implemented before it kicked the bucket, it wouldn't surprise me if they brought him over to the anime.
The sweater Trunks wears in Super character designs is also the same sweater he wears in Xenoverse under his Time Patrol coat.
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>>340873551
Back and gone because of Nigga Goku
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>>340873551
and then they quickly killed her off.
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>>340873571
The quality was pretty bumped up since Cabba had a turn to fight. And that quality ended after the Pan episode. Seems like actual fillers are treated as such. Then, came this episode. And the preview of the next one is keeping quality and substance. So, I don't think my hope is that unfounded so far.
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>>340873452
Is Loli Kai stronger than Beerus?
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>>340874220
No you dumbass.
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>>340860175
Half a fucking day. You can't be serious. people have shit to do m8. Some people need to wait for an appropriate time to fit in their Japanese cartoons.

inb4
>but you have time to shitpost!
Wasting time on the internet is something you can do on fumes, you might wait to wait until you're well rested before watching something so you can actually enjoy it and not zone out/fall asleep. Use some logic, m8.
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>>340874220
Lol no.
Kaioshin are quite weak in the grand scheme of things.
They're weaker than regular Super Saiyans.
Makaioshin however (Demon Realm equivalent of Kaioshin) are much stronger. Demigra is one for example.
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>>340873551
They already killed her off. But Loli Mai seems to be present in the upcoming episode.
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>>340874220
No, but she's better in literally every single conceivable way.
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>>340861605
>it just works.jpg
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>>340873648
Mr. Boo and Winnie the Pooh or Jeice and Burter

I also really hope Popo is in too because I just wanna see some goofy looking fusions with him
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>>340871221
Entirety of Super has been proving that Toriyama is all but senile so far.
He remembered the Pilaf gang, he remembered that Chaozu exists and his signature technique is his chinese vampire paralysis bullshit, he remembered that Tenshinhan and him have the Crane School telepathy technique among other things.

Toriyama simply changes shit because he wants to change it, not because "he forgot" most of the time. Granted he does forget some shit sometimes but he also remembers a lot of other stuff.
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>>340873452
>Trunk's true waifu
>she canonically Bardocksexual

Future Trunks was made to suffer
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>>340874560
There is of course every chance that Toriyama is NOT the sole writer for Super.
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>>340869149
>Trunks literally says "Mai"
>You should be able to hear it even without knowing Jap
Come the fuck on, man. Come the FUCK OOOOON.
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>>340861605
Jump magazine in Japan said they wished for youth during the 3 year peacetime between Namek and Android arcs, which makes them young in both timelines since the split happened after those 3 years when the Android arc began with Goku dying of heart failure in the future and surviving in the present.
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>>340874664
Isn't Toriyama just sort of tossing ideas and has writers actually write them out? He isn't directly working on DBS.
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>>340872716
What about universe 6, with its entire planet of Saiyans?
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>>340874664
Toriyama and Toyble ARE the sole writers of Super, that's a confirmed fact.
Toriyama writes the script, then Toei adapts it into anime.
Toyble is assiting Toriyama since Toriyama is grooming him into becoming his replacement once he retires/kicks the bucket.
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>>340874372
Yeah you wish.
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>>340874781
He IS directly writing Super. He literally is doing the entire scriptwriting including drawing the storyboards.
Toriyama himself said he's very involved because he got assmad at how shitty the western live action movie was and how horribly BoG was shaping up before he took it over.
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>>340874781
Correct. Toriyama is not writing it, he shits out a skeleton of a plot and people who actually remember Dragon Ball write it. This is why there's been callbacks and such.
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>>340874372
WHO IS THIS TITTY MONSTER
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>>340874756
I rememeber when I was just saying it had to be between that time just because I had a feeling. Now you are saying Jump confirmed it? Crazy.

Also, that would mean that in order to be around Trunk's age, they would have to have been aged down to babies. Trunks should be 14 (same age he was when Future Gohan died). Man he looks nothing like it. Which also means that Mai should be around there as well, 15 or so.

Man the new art style fucks with age.
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>>340875050
>Skeleton
I take it you didn't see the twitter storyboards he drew and wrote that Toyble posted? Tori definitely writes everything for the main plot at least, we don't know about filler however.
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Where should I start watching Dragon Ball Super if I don't want to see repeat shit of the new movies?
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>>340864780
>comes back just to die
You knew it was gonna happen, characters usually only come back outta nowhere to die.
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>>340874643
Can you blame her? He is like space Rambo.
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>>340875105
Her name is Not Best Girl.
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>>340875105
>>340875549

please respond
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>>340875609
Okay fine, it's Towa.
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>>340861392

IIRC, Turles was not an evil Goku. He was just another Saiyan with Goku hair.

Black Goku is actually some form of Goku, hence the name.
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>>340875185
>14
What the fuck are you on about? He was 18 when he went back to the past, add 2 years in the Room of Spirit and Time which makes him 20. Android Arc was Age 764.
Don't forget Saiyan biology, they don't age physically until their late 80s.
Mai is also around same age as Trunks considering the Pilaf gang de-aged themselves around the time Trunks was conceived.

This new future is supposed to be Age 797 btw, as in the one where we see Black fuck shit up. That makes is 33 years after Trunks being born, which means he and Mai are 33, with Mai possibly being up to 35 years old depending on when the wish took place.
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>>340875804
thanks
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>>340863438
Raditz died because he appeared before a higher powerlevel meant you were completely untouchable. If those rules had applied he would have taken over the earth before Vegeta and Nappa even got there.
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>>340863619

Except no one gives a fuck about Naruto.
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>>340864515
the Super alt is Goku wearing his farmers outfit and feigning defeat as his method of attack, right?
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>>340875832
But Turles was based on the concept of Goku never hitting his head as a baby.
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>>340864780
Waifufags on suicide watch

Feelsgood
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>>340875423
She's not dead. The producer specifically says Adult Mai has a significant role and Goku and Vegeta are going to the future to deal with Black. She's either just unconscious and Trunks was too much in shock to check for a pulse. Or in a long shot, she's going to come back as a ghost.

>>340875876
Present Trunks, idiot. Not Future Trunks. Apparently the current age in the Present is 780 and Trunks was born 766.

Who knows when they are in the Future though. Last we saw of the future was a few years after Trunks killed the Androids and then killed Cell, which was 788. If I had to guess, it would be a couple years later 790. So the guy only makes it back 10 years instead of 17 years that he wanted to.
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>>340864780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ootdKOpIu8
;_;

But her loli version will at least be present in many episodes in this arc
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>>340862194
I remember "smackindahead."
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>>340860306
Read it. No excuses.
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>>340876435
Or they go to a certain point in the future before that scene happens...?
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>>340862281
>even does Goku's job for him.

Be an actual dad? Yeah. He's been doing that forever, now.
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>>340864780
By not caring. Who gives a fuck about Mai besides 4chan?
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>>340876313

He's basically your average Saiyan, but he looks like Goku.

Turles is absolute shit for this reason. Anyone can recognize that the movie was a cash grab. "Hey, guys, it's Goku if he didn't hit his head, but not, because that wouldn't make any sense."

"So, it's not Goku?"

"No, but it looks like Goku."

"The whole premise is built around this guy looking like Goku, but not being Goku?"

"Yes....it's brilliant."

/end
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>>340875832
And this might not be true either. Apparently during the episode, Trunks remarks on how Goku Black was now able to track him by sensing Ki. Sensing Ki is something regular Goku can do with no issues at all.

More telling however is Goku Black addressing Trunks as "Saiyan" in a rather disdainful manner, as if he is not one himself and he has a grudge against Saiyans.
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>>340858392
>Maining
>In a game with CaC
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>>340876649
>Shit talking Turles.
>Shit talking The Tree of Might.
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles
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>>340876649
So basically Turles is an evil Goku aka a Black Goku

I don't know why idiots still give a shit about Dragon Ball
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>>340876810
It's like he has a death wish or something.
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>Trunks' reaction to Future Trunks in the preview

I want it to be next week already
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>>340876443
>Mai has survived in in various buildings crumbling on her, explosions, etc.
>people think a small ki blast will kill her, especially since her body didn't have any scratches
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>>340875292
27
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>>340876731

Yeah, my feeling, too. Goku Black immediately disassociates himself from the Saiyans. It's probably a mind-controlled Goku.

My guess is the earring he's wearing keeps him connected to his controller. The controller is wearing the other earring.
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>>340877078
She's obviously alive and a slave to Black's BBC
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>>340876979
I knew it was unavoidable, but I so desperately wanted Kid Trunks and Goten to have nothing to do with this arc.
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>>340876443
I love how japan now draws fires in the background as if they were some kind of perpetual explosion.
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>>340876875

No. Turles is not Goku in anyway. Black Goku is in all probability an evil Goku.
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>>340862260
No, Goku was supposed to die before the androids showed up. He never got to face the androids in trunks futures. That is why trunks was surprised that Goku was only JUST getting it when he returned the second time.

"I can't believe time has slipped this much."
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>>340877202
What I think happened in the white hair guy was the Whis of his universe, which was destroyed by Zeno, and he merged with his Goku to avoid being erased
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>>340875423
Well it's not like it's a one time reappearance, Mai got a lot more focus out of the Three in Pilaf's group when they came back as Kids.

She'll have more significance but the death is to bring everybody back to the Idea that Trunk's is future is destined to be shit no matter what.

His world is destroyed by Androids or BLACKED Sayans or he grows up and becomes a Mama's boy who plays babysitter to a Kid Goku and doesn't even fight.
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>>340872716
Pan was pretty strong EoZ
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Take your pick. Goku Black is:

1. A last Android secretly created by Dr Gero based on Goku's likeness.
2. Demigra, or a Makaioshin in diguise.
3. A fusion gone wrong.
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>>340877702
My theory is that he's a GoD Goku that came from a universe that the Omniking destroyed and is pissed.
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>>340877702
Goten.
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>>340877702

He's Goku who got janemba'd.
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>>340877702
I'm betting on

4. It's a Goku from one of the destroyed universes that is being possessed by an evil Kai via the earring.
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>>340878104
You just stole my theory, shut up.
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I hate that they're back to their old clothes.

Goku's Whis Gi looked pretty cool and was a nice change from the traditional one.

Vegeta just looks like an autist wearing his armor everywhere, I wish he'd at least go back to his Buu saga look.
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>>340877702
I'm betting on Demigra, won't be the first time someone wanted to snuff future trunks at a early time
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>>340877702
future goku absorbed some evil energy or fused with a evil kaioshin
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>Evil Goku

holy shit finally
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>>340876649
It's the first movie, of course it's going to have a half-assed premise. Remember Lord Slug is nothing but a King Piccolo Retread where Goku goes into a fake Super Sayain State.
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Present Trunks is 16 yet looks younger than 14 year old Trunks training with Future Gohan.

How is this possible.
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>>340878225
>stole

No friend, we just have similar ideas. It's easy to see where they are going with this, since Toriyama hinted that the next villian would have white hair, which is why he made it SSB, when he wanted to do white.

Also, why introduce the idea of more universes that had been destroyed, if the plot didn't have anything to do with those universes? We know that this new foe will even catch the attention of the Omni King, so he has to be related to him in some way.
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>>340878258

Sealed the deal sucking on a pacifier.
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>>340878418
new garbage art style
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>>340878521
While I dont think them mentioning new episodes is just coincidence, isnt it kinda overly convenient timing that the Omniking destroyed a universe while an alternate Goku was in it? That would mean he destroyed a universe just a couple of years ago. Thats what makes me think thats actually not it.
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>>340858392
Where were you when Dragon Ball Multiverse got BTFO by the Omni-King? Probably one of the 18 Universes was the tournament one from this fanfic thing
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>>340878418
Present Trunks isn't 16
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>>340864510
We wish he was trolling. Super is just shit like that.
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>>340878738

>Bra in that fanfic

What the fuck where they thinking? Hope KING SWOLD kills her.
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There is literally no reason to watch anything but the next episode preview. They show everything that happens next week.
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>>340878392

Yeah, Lord Slug is another steaming turd.
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>>340878258
He should wear his Badman shirt.
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>>340878418
Art style shift and Toei and Toriyama forgetting how much time has passed. Also, he should be 14. The current year is 780, which is the same year that Gohan died in the future timeline.
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>>340878892
They not only show everything that happens, but the title is always a fucking paragraph that describes EXACTLY what happens.
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>>340866324
Did Bellefag commission all of this fanart or did /dbg/ drawfags make it out of the kindness of their hearts?
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>>340878418
I think present Trunks is supposed to be around 13, not 16.
It's been hard to follow how much time moves forward between arcs, but I know it hasn't been 7 years
As for why he hasn't aged, laziness. They don't want to design a teen Goten
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Can someone give me a rundown of the story in XV2.
Does it directly correlate with super?
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>>340870373
You need a pure heart it to turn SSJ and women are inherently too distracted by lewd thoughts of dick to ever be pure.
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>>340879026
>The current year is 780
they never stated what year it was
all we know is that some time pased after BoG
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>>340879421
Unless Video got pregnant in her first year of high school, at least 4 years must have passed.
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>>340879362
Considering it's not out yet, we don't know.
It'll probably recycle the plot of XV with a new bad guy. I just hope they do other movies and DB rather than just the fucking Broly movies and GT
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>>340860326
quit being a fag youre in a db thread where people will be talking about what most recently went on in db so eat shit you whiny cunt
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>>340879535
trunks was like 8 by the end of the buu saga
and considering BoG happened 6 months after
trunks should be 12 now
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>>340879798
He still looks 8.
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>>340879863
goku was 12 at the start of db
saiyans age very slowly
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Trunks isn't 16, at EoZ he was 18, so it doesn't add up with Pan still being a baby/Bra not even born yet.
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>>340879976
Gohan was 10 when he fought Cell, and he looked much older than Goten and Trunks do now.
Trunks was 14 in History of Trunks, and looked nothing like Trunks does in Super
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>>340861476
Oh god please tell me black is turles
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>>340879863
If we use Goku as an example, Saiyans stay looking like they're 8 for awhile and then just have massive growth spurts.
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>>340879986
Bra is a year younger then Pan is I think. Pan was 3 at the end of Z. So if Trunks was 18 at end of Z, then he should be 15 or so now.
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>>340880190
Well, Turles does have darkish skin.
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>>340880336
Pan is 4 at EoZ iirc
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>>340880190

>Toriyama would sign off on a shit character from a shit movie he didn't write
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>>340860803
>King of Everything shows up and says he wants
broly soon
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>>340880445
Well there we go. So we are right, Trunks should be 14, which means the year is 780.
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Fuck, this is the first time in many episodes I watched a DBS episode and I'm actually interested in this arc enough to even ignore any chance quality that I'll still make fun of.
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>>340879863
Battle of Gods happened in 778
The events of Future Trunk's origins happened in 780

Present Trunks is 12
Future Trunks was 14 then after Gohan died he was 17 after training for 3 years

Goku remained small looking until he was like 18, so there's still time
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>>340880761
didn't Trunks VA already confirm Trunks will grow up some time during this arc
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>>340878418
Why does that mountain look like two people fucking?
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>>340880761
You seem to forget that Pan was just born, which means the year is at least 779, maybe on the verge of 780.
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>>340878418
Toei. Doesn't care.
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>>340881003
He'd better, Teen Trunks was the best Trunks. And I want to see a Teen Goten, even if it will just be a King Piccolo era Goku, if a little taller.
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>>340878873
Agreed, I wanna see the king smack that bitch down
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>>340881003
Teen Trunks has to, if he doesn't want Loli Mai to not get BLACKED.
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>>340858392
Ok so let me get this straight about Super. The first two arcs are just the two newest movies with way shittier animation right? And then there's that tournament arc? And now evil Goku arc? Is the tournament arc at least worth watching?
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>>340881369
is Future Trunks going to cuck Present Trunks?
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>>340881612
They can share her.
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>>340881369
>if he doesn't want Loli Mai to not get BLACKED.
Bah, that came out wrong, but the point still stands.
>*if he doesn't want Loli Mai to get BLACKED.

>>340881612
Trunks vs Trunks needs to happen.
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>>340860810
Because of the way multiverse theory works, no, she's dead. Trunks can go to a future timeline that follows the one he changed, but both his mother and Mai are dead. Just like how the last time Future Trunks was seen, he returned to the future and nothing had changed, because he can't change his own timeline, just everyone else's.
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>ITT: People act like super's animation is the worst thing they've ever seen and pretend that dragon ball z was some kind of godsend because "muh childhood"

you faggots are so full of shit.
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>>340881523
It has some unique fights and character interactions but the animation and art is the worst its ever been. The fights don't drag on much though so it can still be fun to watch if only to see Goku and Vegeta put into some fights they wouldn't normally be in due to special rules. Plus I personally think the Goku vs Hit fight was good.

Its not beyond important to watch though, all that really happened was the King of Everything came at the end and said he wants to do a tournament like that except with all the universes involved instead of just the two Beerus and Champa were in.
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>>340882026
It's a placebo that most here took from Toei. When Toei has been pretty much the same inconsistently quality assured studio in Anime history.
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>>340861392
>Goku
>Bardock
>Goten
>Turles
>Goku Jr.
>Goku Black
Why do all of these people have to look just like Goku? It's fucking stupid. Is there really no other fucking design they can come up with?
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>>340881612
Nope, they're going to fuse.
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>>340864805
>Steven Universe
I expected a shitstorm out of you /co/ faggots
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>>340875969
>Raditz died because he appeared before a higher powerlevel meant you were completely untouchable.
The thing is, the difference between Radditz and Piccolo/Goku was small, he was roughly twice as strong as they were.

By the time they face Frieza, frieza was 40-50 times stronger. With that kind of difference, no shit he was untouchable.
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>>340882450
>toriyama
>unique designs
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>>340882026
I dunno man.
I can't say for a fact that toei was ever GOOD because I haven't seen all of their animations, but I can say at the very least that DBZ used to be -better-, even at its worst.
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>>340882026
But DBZ did have good animation.
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>>340882503
I don't know what that has to do with it.
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>>340858392
>ironic named the bad guy blacked
>reference to Cucked
>the good guys must stop from getting blacked

You can't make this shit up
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>>340882698
the dancing choreography is form there
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>>340882782
/r9k/ pls go
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>this perfect family only lasts one scene
feels bad
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>>340864847
Cropped porn is still bannable.
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>>340882698
In Steven Universe the characters fuse by dancing.

That's the same movements two of them use. Just replace Vegeta with a short purple person and Goku with a thick-but-fit black woman with a massive afro.
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Isn't it sad that Black Goku is the first decent looking villain/antagonist in DBS, and he's literally just Goku in new clothes?

Speaks volumes to how bad character design in DBS is.
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>>340868619
The Mexican dub is really good. Almost as good as the original. US is a load of fucking shit.
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There was an artwork of Future Trunks wearing what looks like the shirt underneath the Time Patrol 's trench coat.
If this arc is gonna take place throughout time and space, perhaps this is Super ' s version of the origin of Time Patrol Trunks.
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>>340882026

DBZ had a lot of terrible animation, but when it was on point, it was spectacular. The characters seemed very much larger than life.

Pic related; the guy who animated this sequence was one of the best artists drawing for the series.
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>>340861110
It won't. Just like how we've got a dozen "ultimate form of a saiyan" variants.
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Where can I Watch these episode?
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>>340883184
It's better than the original by a long shot. Frieza's voice is pure earsex and Goku doesn't sound like an 80 year old japanese lady.
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>>340868629
MINE
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Xenoverse 2's final boss is Super Saiyan Blue Broly?
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>>340883137
To be fair, they only had 1 good villain in GT. Bad guys are hard.
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>>340882968
You mean /tv/.
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>>340876625

I love the Pilaf gang.
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>>340882026
DB/DBZ did not have consistently good animation, but Super's BEST animation is mediocre by DBZ standards, and it has a lot of laughably bad animation.
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>>340864805
>inb4 Barneyfag
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>>340858392

>that skin color
>Gt goku is actually the same as evil goku
>GT actually takes place in an alternate universe

deepest lore
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>>340883345
GT was awful. I mean you're not wrong, but if that's the standard we're shooting for with Super then it's really really sad.
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>>340883004
>cat forgets owners face after three days

Complete bullshit. I've gone on vacation for weeks and my cats still recognize me when I come home. They clamor for attention and greet me as normal.
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>>340883184
Growing up in Hong Kong I can say the Cantonese dub was pretty good as well, except for one baffling thing. They used the exact same VA who used the exact same voice (exact not one bit different) for Frieza and later, Cell.
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>>340882450
Same VA's too.
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>>340883004
>Trunks now looks distraught as fuck
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>>340882026

>le dbz had bad animation meme

It was average but still miles ahead of super, this fight shits on anything super has so far.
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>>340883636
Maybe your cat is just a slut and doesn't care about who it gets attention from.
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>>340883274

Bruce Falconer fag pls go

And Kai dub of Funimation was what made the English dubs redeemable. Funi did good finally with that.
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how do I trick my gf into liking Piccolo?
I keep explaining why he's the coolest but she keeps saying he's just a gross alien "freakazoid".
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>>340883801
>Bruce Falconer fag pls go
The mexican dub had the original music, you dumbshit amerilard.
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>>340883754
Nope, if they don't recognize a person, they run and hide. Best cat is getting old though. I don't think he has much longer. I'm going to miss him.
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>>340883214

>but when it was on point, it was spectacular.

In other words 'Key Scenes' where they're done by top tier studios instead of being done by shittier low tier or off shore studios.

Pic related
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>>340883867
is your girlfriend a 12 year old?
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>>340883867

Fuck off normie
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>>340883867
Give her the daily dose every single day.
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>People still bringing up Trunk's hair color

Isn't he like 33 in Super's future timeline? Hair color can change from youth, blonde hair can become black
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>>340879156
i don't think thats /dbg/ related, plus i don't have money to waste on comms, the IRS fucked me over
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>>340883948
no just very...urban
>>340883964
>normie
literally the reason it came up is because I put my figuarts Piccolo with her figure collection.
Apparently it's haram to share a figure shelf.
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>not maining beerus

beerus is the best thing in super, black goku is just a shitty edgy oc from the guy who is drew AF and now is drawing super
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>>340883274
Only ever heard mexican people who grew up with that dub say this. I was one of them, but the jap dub has grown on me.
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>>340883929
It's not even really the studio, it's the key framer himself. In-betweeners have no control over the quality. They have to draw what's there.

Uchiyama infamously had people in his own studio go back over his keyframes to fix them when he wasn't looking, they were so bad. This happens because of seniority rules in Japan. People who are low grade in betweeners graduate to being leads, regardless of their skill or ability. People below them may actually be very talented.
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>>340884042
he looks about 15
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>>340883867

My girlfriend thinks Piccolo is awesome, but she also likes Vegeta.
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>>340883517

>But Super's BEST animation is mediocre by DBZ standards, and it has a lot of laughably bad animation.

This isn't just a Dragonball Super problem, this is a Toei problem and it's been going on for the past 5-6 years or so with ALL their animated shows. They keep shipping out interval non-key scenes to off shore studios primarily in South East Asia.
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Dragon ball super is a mistake.
The series should have stayed dead.
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>Dragon Ball anything after Z
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>>340884114
But urbans love Piccolo. Your story isn't adding up.
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>>340884190

Why does Toei still have the rights to DBZ?
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>>340883929

Thing is, anon, even the worst, most off-model artists still often made better animation than most of Super's.

The best of super is certainly better than the worst of dragonball, but the average and bad for super is well below even DBZ's worst.
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>>340884190
The move from hand drawn to digital really killed Dragonball. It's not suited at all for the style.
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>>340884114
>no just very...urban
So you can't just explain to her how Piccolo is the blackest main character?
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>>340883867
Show her the Daily Dose.
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>>340884132
Toriyama alone is behind character designs and plot, down to story boards. The other guy only draws it.
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None of the timeline shit adds up anyway, didn't Bulma say at EoZ that they hadn't seen Goku for like 5 years?
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>>340883867
Convince her that green dick is better than blue dick
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Have any of the Super Blu-Rays been released yet? Is the quality any better?
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>>340884265
black guys seem to love him, my gf thinks he's gross.
but then again she admitted to me recently that she never watched DBZ in its entirety and only knows Saiyan to Namek through DBZ abridged for the most part.
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>>340884042
I don't see why it's such a big deal. Just a way to differentiate the two Trunks' in the eyes of Japanese children (who this whole fucking series is aimed towards)
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>>340884338

Perfect Cell Saga had some pitifully awful animation in many of the episodes.
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>>340884457
Piccolo is bald, wears Arabic like training cloths and had a deep voice in the English dub, so it's easy to see why black people perceived him as black.
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>>340884453
They fixed a bit of the worst animation, but not really. Overall still bad with tons of terrible quality shit.
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>We live in an age where we are able to speculate on DBZ plot developments

Holy shit, it's like I'm 12 years old again.
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>>340884161
Saiyans don't age like humans do.

Bear in mind Goku is a GRANDFATHER at this point and he still looks like he's in his mid-20's
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>>340884629
I challenge you to find anything worse than Super's worst.

And let's be clear, we're discussing ANIMATION. Art quality is something else, and DBZ certainly had a lot of bad art.
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>>340884252
>>340884258

> tfw the same thing is happening to Naruto

series ended on a high note,
the new manga shits on everything and the old generation might be dead caused by some edgy kid with tatoo powers.
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Modern Toei just can't do animation worth shit
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>>340884629
Why did those episodes happen?
Why did they suddenly hire an animation b-team who had no idea how to draw faces on model with the rest of the series?
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>you will never get hand drawn Minoru Maeda Dragonball animation ever again
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>>340884190
>this is a Toei problem
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>>340884768
>series ended on a high note,

Hahahahahaha.
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>>340884658
>fixed
That's a bit of an overstatement. They added motion blur to shitty looking fight scenes and touched up the shading.
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>Toei will never sell Dragon Ball to Sunrise
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>>340884802
Cheaper, duh. Also, faster.
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>>340884802
I remember Goku sounding high as fuck in the dub during these episodes too
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BRING BACK BUU. The cool ones not fat ass. Bring Cell back too while your at it.

I just gotta see him fuck shit up one more time. Is DBZKai never gonna show the buu saga in english?? wtf
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>>340884346

>The move from hand drawn to digital really killed Dragonball.

Not true whatsoever. Return of Son Goku and Friends had great animation and a beautiful stylized color and that came out in 2008 in digital format.
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>>340885029
DB kai is trash and you should feel bad for watching it.
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>>340882026
Nostalgia does that to people. They also think Dragon Ball is supposed to be a serious series.
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Why is Super so terrible?
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>>340876625
The nips were very excited about Future Mai. They really liked Trunks x Mai on BoG and they were butthurt for Toei retconned it on Super. Now they must be demanding Toriyama's head
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>>340885106
>those overly clean, structured lines
>lines don't even taper


Ehhhhh.
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>>340884802
Because they know they don't have to try. They can produce work of the cheapest quality and people will still eat it up. Just look at One Piece.
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>>340884862

assblasted Narusakufag detected.
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NEW THREAD

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>>340885409
>>340885409
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>>340885168
Dragon ball got progressively more serious pretty fast, so they wouldn't be wrong.
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>>340885106
I loved this one. Everyone did their special move except Vegeta.
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>>340885273
They should wait before holding a lynch mob, because apparently this will be a time-passing arc where we see teen versions of Mai and Trunks in the present timeline. I think.
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>>340885365
A problem with a lot of some criticisms is when people post caps that are obviously very, very zoomed in, small caps of things drawn in the background. Toei is shit, but that selective nitpicking doesn't show it off very well.
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>>340884814

Not the best pic to represent Maede.

>>340884802

>Why did they suddenly hire an animation b-team who had no idea how to draw faces on model with the rest of the series?

Because when you're making an episode once per week nonstop you need multiple studios to animate them and since the original DBZ was chalk full of filler, you kept the filler primarily for the lower budgeted animation studios and the key frames and major plot events for the high budget ones.

But there was definitely a sharp decline in quality from the Imperfect-Semi Perfect Cell Saga to the Perfect Cell Saga for some reason, not sure why.
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>>340884371
grandpa tori is a bit senile

i bet black goku was created like this

>tori: and now im oing to create a new bad guy just let me look for the name of a vegetable or good pun
>Tori falls asleep
>Toyotarō: wake up tori sensei
>Tori: uh what was i doing
>Toyotarō:you created a new character
>Tori: i did what?
>Toyotarō: a new character his name is Zaik.. i mean black goku
>Tori:oh yeah right now i'll write a story about it
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>>340884642
But he actually helped raise a child.
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>>340885294

You're seeing it from a nostalgic viewpoint. Even if it wasn't digital, you would still complain. It's a show you grew up with as a kid and it won't compare ever since your tastes have evolved and keep original close to heart since it was part of your childhood.
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>>340885169
fuck off ponyfucker
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>>340885880
Not really. Plenty of older Dragonball looked like fucking garbage, but because of the models or shading. Digital linework does look terrible, though. Then again, I actually illustrate and animate myself. Maybe I'm biased against gross looking, soulless linework.
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