>In the past, there was no archiving of older data. So while we have the capability of doing that now, and in more recent years when we make changes we can ‘version’ the data, we didn’t have that back in 2004. And so as data changed, we effectively lost that stuff to history. And so we would have to go back and try to reverse-engineer it ourselves.
What the fuck
I thought that only asian software developers didn't keep old builds in the 2004-2006
>>340850537
I really hope that nostalrius doesn't become a thing, it would be the end of wow lore, not like if Metzen weren't ruining it with muh Horde, but is better than no new expansions
Assuming they save the data on the old servers, they sold and gave away original vanilla servers.
Just get the data from those
>>340850537
Ok so if the original data doesnt exist then why was nost a thing
>>340850537
>we lost the data to the original vanilla server guize
>don't mind all those vanilla and BC private servers, they're just fake
>>340850537
This is just blizzard bullshitting hardcore.
No prorgammer in the world would ever accept this dumb fucking excuse.
>>340850831
>all of those are bugged and half-functioning
hmmm
If the Nost team could do it Blizzard can do it even better. This isn't an excuse.
>>340850725
They rebuild the systems from the ground up.
Nost was rather professional about it.
>>340850725
>>340850831
>Schreier: Don’t the Nostalrius people have that data?
>Chilton: No, they don’t actually. So what they did is went back and reverse-engineered it. They spent countless hours researching on YouTube, looking at, ‘OK how many hit points do you think that monster has, I think I saw a video that showed it with, you know, 2,152 hit points, so that’s the number of hit points we’re gonna give it.’ And they’re just kinda guessing and approximating on a lot of stuff. Which is cool, and they did an amazing job of making it feel like a very authentic experience. But ultimately the way they implement their data is in no way similar to the way we do it. So it’s not like we can even take that data and put it in the game, because they actually aren’t even really compatible - they have a completely different approach to creating content.
>>340850537
>And so we would have to go back and try to reverse-engineer it ourselves
Except a bunch of sweaty nerds already did that for you. Stick 'em an inkling of your infinite money hoard in a dollar-sign bag and harvest the fruits of your non-labour, you triple nincompoops.
>>340851042
>So it’s not like we can even take that data and put it in the game, because they actually aren’t even really compatible - they have a completely different approach to creating content.
So just let them do it. If you really have to protect your IP, license the game through them.
>>340850537
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44218
"First, they DO have the source code for Vanilla WoW. Code version control systems are not something new, as it has been a standard in the industry for a long time. With these systems, they can retrieve the code at any given previous backup date."
>>340851248
Link doesn't work
>>340851438
Works on my machine :-)
try googling "Meeting report from our post-mortem presentation nostalrius"
>>340851192
You. I like you.
>>340851192
Not good enough work for the blizzard mark of quality
>>340850537
Citation needed
>>340851851
http://kotaku.com/blizzard-talks-world-of-warcraft-legacy-servers-and-mor-1781753136
>>340851248
Was just about that post that. My nigga.
Also, here's another quote
>After this meeting, we can affirm that these guys WANT to have legacy WoW servers, that is for sure.
Hype
>>340850537
Except they have been archiving all code since at least 2005.
>>340851925
>linking Kotaku
>>340851979
I just want vanilla severs now, nost's death hit me hard and kronos is S H I T and fags are clearing MC with 20 man in 40s greens.
>>340851925
>Kotaku
Archive that shit
>>340850642
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>340852119
Wow is not pokemon where they can make remakes every two years
>>340851925
>Chilton says they don't have the older source code after everyone that met with Blizzard confirms that they DO
Is Chilton just a chronic liar or something?
>>340851042
why don't they just officially sponsor nostalrius then?
>>340850642
WTF. They don't need to explain the legacy servers in the lore.
They do have the code, they admitted it during the Nostalrius metting. "muh code is gone" is a lie for catababbies.
>>340850642
>Don't cut me off from my horrible corruption/reverse corruption porn loop
Are you fucking retarded?
>>340852171
I think the better question is which Blizzard employee isn't a chronic liar. Isn't that part of the criteria for getting hired in the first place?
>>340852242
there would be no new expansions, nor new games, just jewing
>>340852171
I think they have the server codes and client code, but are missing some files :
>This means that before re-launching vanilla realms, all of the data needed for the build processes has to be gathered in one place with the code. Not all of this information was under a version control system. In the end, whichever of these parts were lost at any point, they will have to be recreated: this is likely to take a lot of resources through a long development process.
I think its time to move on.
>>340851979
Lurk more.
There's a blue post about legacy servers within the last few months. Blizzard's definition of legacy server is modern WoW without 'features' such as dungeon/raid finder, flying mounts, and some other things I can't remember off the top of my head.
It wouldn't be vanilla. It would be MODERN fucking WoW with less than a normal server has.
>>340852547
That was the "pristine" server idea they talked about, not actual legacy servers, and that idea was pretty much shot down immediately.
>>340852547
You're retarded
>>340852625
In the poll more than 60% people supported this idea
So yes, get hyped for the butchered current wow
>>340852547
>being this stupid
Kill yourself, retard.
>>340852379
>almost 30
>no job or driver's license
Hey, that's me!
I'm unsure if it matters since I make more from stocks and interest than I would at any job in this state.
Also I pay the bills.N-no, I don't live with my parents! M-my parents live with me!
>>340851925
Go shill your shit article on reddit, faggot nigger bitch
>>340852159
Remakes don't mess with lore at all.
>>340852343
A BC update to a vanilla server is just that.
>>340852379
lol
>>340852709
>in the poll
How about you link it? The poll in which people voted for pristine over legacy? Cause it doesn't exist and you're a fucking liar
>>340852379
>having a job in 2016
no thank i would rather not die of stress at the age of 40
>>340852379
>tfw mever played wow but that image hits closer to home than i want it to
>>340852343
You really think recreating missing server files will stop the production of a new expansion?
>>340852547
Mouthbreathing idiots like you should be restricted from posting on the internet forever
>>340852728
>at any job in this state
Do you live in Kabul, Afghanistan?
>>340852801
Better to die of inactivity and loneliness, huh.
>>340852728
How Do I get started with stocks.
My nose looks kinda jewish, maybe I'm gifted with the money.
>>340852835
Yes, everyone will be fapping to vanilla wow, no one will play new expansions, also normies will ruin legacy servers
>>340850657
Wot. They wipe those. It's not even explicitly what the OP is saying. See http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44218. They have the patch version information, but that requires each asset from that patch version, which they don't have (and would have to be manually redesigned).
>>340851769
>what is patching
>>340852936
>Better to die of inactivity and loneliness
Well actually yes, it feels better being lonely than being stressed.
>>340852379
DELETE NOW
just give me a wotlk server blizzard
fuck vanilla
>>340852961
Nah, normies love current WoW. Only fat neckbeards like ourselves like Legacy servers.
>>340852915
Wyoming.
You're not far off.
>>340852952
Start with day trading and low-risk investments. I started with Scottrade about a decade ago and now just use Robinhood.
You'll need some startup capital and some funds to play around with. All in all, it's basically gambling based on real-life events.
>>340853236
>Nah, normies love current WoW. Only fat neckbeards like ourselves like Legacy servers.
They will like everything that is pushed by tumblr and reddit
>>340852379
Fixed
>>340850537
I assume they're talking about source code. In which case
>WHAT IS VERSION CONTROL
Holy fuck, the fact that Blizzdrones are falling for this shit is retarded.
By the way, in the 90's there were huge archiving efforts, not on the part of a big organisation, but there were hundreds if not thousands of sites run by hobbyists that archived mods and shit for video games.
>>340853646
>futa horsecocks
>in vanilla
blasphemy
>>340854036
Maybe he's playing a female tauren
>>340854003
>in the 90's there were huge archiving efforts, not on the part of a big organisation, but there were hundreds if not thousands of sites run by hobbyists that archived mods and shit for video games
And where are they now? Seriously, didn't gamefront close like 2 months ago? Are there even any large video game archives left?
>>340853646
>chicken tendies
every time
>tfw nost is gone
>leveling another dk for reasons
>20 quest left to do at hyjal
>level 84 and missing 10% to level up
>>340851042
>its better that we have nothing than use a decent approximation
>>340854713
Same shit happened after wotlk release in the old zones
And people still call it golden time of wow and blame cata for "ruining" leveling in the old world
Funny, right?
>>340854239
no amount of modding will fix games nowdays
>>340851769
>blizzard
>quality
>>340850537
They did keep a lot of the data, retardo.
Where's your source on that quote?
>>340850537
Why is this a problem?
If some 12 motherfuckers from some euroshit county can do it in their house, why can't blizzard?
>>340851769
>blizzard
>mark of quality
Am I getting memed or what
>>340853150
come on anon, get up and accept the challenge of life. Your options are endless
>>340854239
Well, Gamefront and the like wasn't what I was talking about really since they were not as big in the 90's, but you're absolutely right. Gamefront, moddb etc. were the next evolution from the scattered hobbyist sites we had before that.
I'll probably be called a jadedfag, but I miss the 90's and early millennial years.
>>340850980
Nostalrius used open source emulatiom that had been developed and used across other private servers for years. By the time nostalrius came around. Most original Wow content up to wotlk was scripted and working properly. Really what they did most was market it properly.
Since nost died all I've been doing is drifting from game to game getting bored with them.
Even if legacy was a thing, Blizz would fuck it up.
>>340857152
You are completely ignoring the huge amount of scripting they had to do.
All of their systems were proprietary.
>>340857152
Mangos is still buggy as shit hence why every server has to bugfix the same god damn quests and everytime.
So, will they release legacy servers or no?
