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Riot's new LoL fighting game by the former Rising Thunder devs is supposedly getting announced at E3 on Tuesday
Opinions?
>>340848498
Riot is the new EA
>>340848571
With their appropriation of one studio?
>>340848498
Honestly I only see good things coming from it. The FGC has always suffered from no real esports structure and Riot already has that in place with LoL.
This could start a new renaissance in FG
>>340848498
>western fighting games
I'd be for it.
Maybe I'd actually play something related to LoL too.
>>340849284
Well it would probably follow Capcom's new policy of "No thuggery" which could be a downsite
>>340848692
Don't make me think about the buzzwords I use faggot.
>>340848498
that would be great.
this is what Dota/Valve should have been thinking about forever, but they are lazy cunts
never liked LoL, i liked some of the charactes though
>>340850104
Riot is Chinese
>>340850870
Owned by chinks, but their retarded team is western.
It will be a complete shit, since most of the FG mechanics are "toxic" for a casual player.
>>340851004
>toxic
Here comes the fuckboys retreading the same tired buzzwords they've been using since 2009.
>>340851093
Are you legally retarded, sempai?
>>340851170
Are you literally underage? The people that still talk about "toxic" are the same people that watch YouTube Poops in the year 2016.
>>340851219
>The people that still talk about "toxic" are the same people that watch YouTube Poops in the year 2016
So, Riot, the company you are defending.
>>340850104
>eastern fighting games
>>340851004
>since most of the FG mechanics are "toxic" for a casual player
Good, since that's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WetHkYVtw
RT was fun desu
I hope Vi has Dauntless' moveset.
>>340851379
Touhou fighting games are underrated.
>League of Legends fighting game
>PC exclusive
>free to play
Has potential.
Hopefully it's not a subpar SF clone like Rising Thunder war.
>>340848498
It's going to be a good laugh to see a game that gets babby patched more frequently than NRS games and kill its own community even faster. Western devs are so damn beta.
>>340852349
Imagine how bad at fighting games you would have to be to think Rising Thunder played anything at all like Street Fighter.
>>340852349
Not a bad idea, and they already have a huge potential playerbase. But I don't trust Riot in making a good fighter.
Unless they outsource it.
>>340852465
to scrubs, it goes something like:
>they both have life bars and 2 characters on screen fighting, it's basically the same game, i guess i just mash buttons?
>>340852526
so, some inputs are a little different, it's essentially the same shit, stay in denial.
>>340852467
it is outsourced though, the game is being made by the Rising Thunder devs which includes Seth Killian himself
>>340851219
>YouTube Poops in the year 2016
Do good YTPs even exist in 2016?
>>340848498
>Rising Thunder
Wasn't this the game some guy rage quit on a live stream because he couldn't counter fireball spam?
>PC exclusive fighting game
It will be dead on arrival.
>>340849284
hahaha
Are you ignorant of how badly strangeholded the LoL eSports scene is? The FGC is flourishing with its independence. Look at how many majors happen across the world, almost every single weekend there is one, and with the advent of streaming, scenes are only gaining size and traction.
We've no need for big money to come into the FGC. It'll fucking ruin it, like it has every other sport, e- or otherwise.
>>340853464
yes
>>340852465
>SF fags think RT plays nothing like SF
Seriously, how delusional do you have to be to not think it's like SF. Like, one one hand you guys claim that SF is by definition the be all and end all of the genre, yet at the same time you deny that games that take after it are similar, because you have such a narrow idea of what the entails.
>>340848498
A good beginner friendly free to play fighting game under riot?
I could get behind it because i loved Raising Thunder but.. Riot are jews so its going to be Killer Instinct with most of the cast locked away behind a paywall.
Might get casuals into fighting game in general so we get some fresh competition.. i hate going so SoCal events and playing the same guys for 15 years or so.
Who will be the token big grappler? Who will be the ryu of league of fighters?
>>340855393
Does LoL even have someone who can be considered a grapple type?
>>340848498
>LoL fighting game
What a pity. I liked the robots more.
The simplified fighting game mechanics were also enjoyable. I'm not very good at performing complex (relative to simple button presses) inputs on a dime.
>>340855393
>>340855572
Literally nobody, unless they go balls to the wall then you can probably count on Udyr, Illaoi, Gragas if they wanted him to just be Hakan and Mundo.
Tizoc was fucking mad in KoF Online, why they havent decided to steal a grappler type back from it is beyond me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4EGkaSg8w
The LoL fighter will kill off literally every other FGC out there. It'll make SFV, MKX, all of that shit irrelevant.Even Smash is going to be heavily affected, number wise.
Except, Melty. That shit is too struggle to ever really die.
>inputs based on directions and not stick movements
This kills the options.
>>340855572
There are some people who could grapple like Braum
But there are so few actual hand to hand abilities
>>340853690
Esports is already in FGC. There's even going to be an ESL SFV event soon, with big cash.
>Blitzcrank will never be a warrior of justice for the greek people
>Blitzcrank will never get the drinks ready
Out of everything they've done to LoL, nothing matches my hatred for the fact that Talos will never come back to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH52CxklGX8
>/v/ finally has a fighting game that will cater to their casualness
>muh Riot
k e k
see me when your game takes real skill and execution
>>340850809
Why the FUCK should Valve give a shit about fighting games? Riot only doing this because of growth, and finding a way to put LoL on consoles. CSGo, Dota w, shit even Hearthstone makes fuckton more money on average than fighting games, not to mention a much bigger player base and viewer count as well. Face it, fighting games are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, both on an esports and regular gaming scale.
>it failed
>lets try again
>>340848692
Riot is owned entirely by Tencent, the company with the virtual monopoly on videogames in mainland China who rips off western games for the chinese market and uses the money to buy companies like Riot and Epic.
They will continue to acquire studios via the companies they've bought, because a big "western" company buying up studios will look better to the western consumers than China buying up yet more stuff in the west.
>>340855393
Based Singed will be the grappler.
Riven will be the Ryu of the series
Cho'gath is the final boss
Teemo is the Akuma style secret boss if you perfect all rounds.
>>340855572
Singed and Tahm Kench would make great grapplers.
>>340857016
It failed because the robots dont be have any character to them.
LoL however, watch them tap into that waifu source and itll be raining dosh fast
RT was literally SF4 for dummies and a wonky "burst" system.
>>340855572
Volibear. Plz.
>>340853857
We're talking about a group of people that have only played one type of game, expect every game to play like that one game, and if a game doesn't play like that one game then it's shit because of some arbitrary restrictions that come down to "not SF/MvC."
Capcom shitters are the cancer killing the FGC, thank christ smash is shaking things up so people can see that SF isn't the be-all, end-all of fighting games.
Especially after how thoroughly SFV bombed.
>>340856931
I'm not sure dawg, party game smash can probably give them a run for their money especially with the moneyhatting of dlc.
>>340848498
It will be irredeemably shit I have no doubt about that
balancing a fighting game is much harder and in depth than balancing a moba and Riot already has failed a thousand times over at that so...
>>340857937
True, I dont like how the FGC (or the western one anyway but since were going by the biggest) is utterly dependent on SF. These fucks refuse to play any other fighting game of it doesnt have the Capcom logo on it or if it doesnt have a slow grounded footsie gameplay. Mahvel fags are hypocrites because they shit on airdash type fighters but their game has every single bad aspect of these fighters and amplifies it to 11. Fuck those guys
>>340851717
so is chel actually broken or is this guy just bootyblasted?
As long as they stay out of Tekken and Soul Calibur, it doesn't bother me.
>>340858460
Chel just has good tools. Shes a very shoto character, the guy just doesnt know how to play fighting games
Riot should make a EXVS clone 2bh. That'd be way more hype than yet another 2d fighter.
>>340858080
>moneyhatting of dlc
What does that even mean?
>>340848498
Rising thunder was fun for a day, that's about it. I see no success out of anything they make. A half-assed fighter just isn't appealing.
Maybe a teaser, there is no way they can be anywhere near ready for gameplay
>>340858460
do you even have to ask ? have you watched the match
>>340858801
It's just the announcement
>>340858529
honestly both of those players seem terrible which just makes it even funnier
anyway I don't understand how anybody can be hopeful about this except for blatant Riotdrones
Rising Thunder was obviously total shit and its very understandable why it was cancelled
why Riot wants to revive this abomination is a mystery
>>340850104
KI is good.
>>340861024
It was cancelled because Riot bought them. They didn't revive shit.
>>340852465
It plays like a slower, easier, worse version of SF4.
>>340848498
>Fighting game
>Robots
is this a joke
>>340848498
If they don't bring back the people's champion then I won't even bother.
Why didn't they pick a better dev?
Rising Thunder was garbage and dead on arrival
>>340852349
>They will have to make it playable without a fightstick for maximum potential playerbase
>>340848498
Source?
>>340861146
sure thats what they want you to think
the reality is the game was just shit it would've failed if it hadn't been canceled and Riot basically saved them from bankruptcy by absorbing them and getting them to cancel it
the real question is why would Riot do this?
is their judgement really just THAT bad?
I mean I could understand if they just bought out these devs and then reassigned them to some grunt work but allowing them to create another fighting game like this?
it really seems like they're just asking for failure
I guess they must've got a good deal its totally not like they could afford anything better right?
>>340856708
Don't forget Vlad the super intelligent Russian cosmonaut dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKWl_vfTq08
>>340861490
They want to pander to waifufags, literal 12yos and girl games, so anything will work with enough marketing. Guess that dev is the cheapest one.
rt literally proved that even simplifying imputs to the max will get casuals involved in fighting games, even if you can do the sick combos if you dont know anything about universal 2d fighting games mechanics you still are going to get stomped. Also1vs1 games just dont sell that well. If i were riot i would just go with some kind of smash clone.
>>340848498
>All those complaints about Chel because people couldn't get past the standard fireball/DP zoning game
I fucking hate LoL but I can't wait to play this game just to stomp ASSFAGGOTS scrubs
>>340861490
>dead on arrival
It never arrived
Cool, I liked the alpha
Tanos was fun
OBROS
>>340848498
DUST
>Playing any Riot games after experiencing LoL's business model
wew no thanks.
>>340856163
>grappler
>Illaoi
SWEET JESUS YES PLEASE.
She'd be amazing. Throwing in tentacles for ranged grabs and other crazy broken shit.
>>340856708
>>340861375
>Riot shows the game
>Talos is still in
>Immediately after, Riot announces a new champ coming to League
>>340862370
Honestly with riots policy of quickly nerfing characters based on community imput i think any sort of zoning/mixups/vortex will be removed from the game
>>340863164
>mfw the game will have no combos because they're burden of knowledge and getting locked into a combo is antifun with no counterplay
>>340863164
can't wait for every projectile to be replaced with a rush attack
>LoL fighting game gets shown
>/V/ makes fun of it at first
>It gains traction among casuals and some hardcore players
>It becomes the next Overwatch
I pray it doesn't happen, but it's possible.
>>340848498
Imagine this
>Smash clone from Riot for PC
>Online Rankeds with solid Netcode
>Every 2 weeks a new character is released
>Skins for your champions
Would you buy it?
>>340848498
I'm sad it died and that Riot is going to handpuppet the corpse.
>>340863846
>>It becomes the next Overwatch
Yeah, 3 or 4 months of shilling and then dead.
>>340858545
>LoL EXVS
Casuals don't care about that. Plus too how would full melee characters like Renekton and Riven work when they would just knock everyone down, especially if Riot would remove techs and cancels to prevent that for combos?
>riot games
who cares?
>>340864089
Fucking droves and droves of normies
>make a fighting game about giant robots
>just make it sf4 with robots
FUCK RISING THUNDER
>>340864151
then there shouldn't be a thread here
>>340863164
They'll just ban you for picking low tier characters because it's against the meta
>>340863868
of course not
why wouldn't I just buy actual Smash instead?
>>340863747
projectiles will end up being skillshots, which you have to aim
>>340864237
Normies care because they love riot and want the game
We care because the trainwreck is going to be a spectacle
>>340849284
Except Riot is notoriously running the worst esports scene on the planet.
>>340864472
no we don't
>>340864540
>I don't care so nobody on this anonymous imageboard with thousands of users cares
ebin
>>340864430
that would actually be like 100x worse and probably break the game beyond belief unless they completely change the movement and make the hitboxes tiny
there's a reason why almost every fighting game lets you shoot projectiles only at predetermined angles even the ones that have a large degree of movement freedom
>>340864641
no one here should give a shit about riot trash
>>340848498
i don't think it will be a league fighting game.
most likely it will have the same art team.
Riot needs a new game, with new stuff, so this seems to be the chance
heavily doubt they're making a fighting game
if they are, please kill me
A League of Legends fighting game, more than anything else, seems horribly redundant to me.
Why don't these fucks just pay a real company like ASW, Capcom, or SNK to make their fighting game? This shit is going to be HOT GARBAGE just like the game in OP image. Fucking garbage.
>>340861512
All fighting games work fine without a fightstick, except for specific characters like Zato, that require you to hold buttons for extended periods.
>>340864746
see
>>340864472
That was like two posts up anon, come on
>>340864538
>worst esports scene
>most successful and most watched esports scene
How does it feel to be so contrarian you operate on the opposite of logic?
>>340865062
>quantity = quality
>>340865062
>>most successful
Riot pays a lot of money to maintain it. Valve got several millions with the last TI.
>most watched
LoL out loud.
>>340865190
doesn't make it less successful
My drinks are ready.
>>340865246
doesn't make it less bad
>>340856380
>>340856380
You simply do not block Vakiha.
It will be shit just like Rising Thunder was. They'll make everything "easier" thinking that inputs are what makes fighting games hard for casuals without understanding that it's spacing, commitment, timing, and the ability to read the opponent that makes it impossible for casuals to play fighting games.
Bitches can't even understand the fundamental concepts like footsies and neutral game.
And they'll cater to the people that think it's only special move inputs that make it so they can't play fighting games. They'll market it as the fighter for the people or some shit. Then when casuals get their asses wrecked by actual FGC players using one input normals they'll cry and it will die.
And we all go back to Street Fighter because King of Fighters is stuck in a hell hole of not being popular enough to learn and Tekken 7 never coming out.
>>340848498
What happened to rising thunder?
>>340865354
studio got bough by riot and they scraped it
>>340865062
look you can spout the numbers all you want
but everybody already knows that LoL is a terribly balanced game that is most popular with 12 year olds and viewbots
>>340864538
What's wrong with Riot's esports scene?
>>340848498
Let's assume they want to make it team based, to make it more agreeable to the fags that play LoL, but still a 1 on 1 fighter. How would you want them to do it?
1:KOF style, but each Character is a separate player, so each of the three characters gets played till they get knocked out, then the new person steps in, controlling the new character.
2:Marvel Tag style, where you can tag out any time
3: Best of X, each player plays once. So, person 1 from team A, and person 1 from team B fight a match. Whoever wins gets a point, go their team, then player 2 from A and B fight, whoever wins gets a point, and so on, and whichever team got more points, wins
Or would you do some other system?
>>340865354
Bought by Riot. Game was only in alpha so they've scrapped it to replace it with a new LoL fighting game presumably.
Thing is you can't play fighting games online because of latency
>>340864423
Because the Wii U is shit, anon
it's going to be a casual, monthly hero based, watered down "fighting game" that removes most if not all skill requirements and the "burden of knowledge"
tournaments will be even more sterile than they already are as to not appear to be a "toxic" community
and you know what the worst thing is?
it's going to be extremely successfull and popular just because it's "the next thing by riot"it would make me so fucking mad, is nothing sacred anymore?
>>340865551
and your eyes don't see past 30fps anyway
>>340848498
I actually liked Rising Thunder, so I hope this does well.
>>340865614
Honestly, if it gets a lot of people interested in fighting games, and even a fraction of those move on to more serious ones, resulting in new blood? I'm fine with it. The people that play this, won't have played real fighting games anyway, but it will act as a gateway drug for people who might never have tried fighters before, but end up really enjoying them.
>>340865592
oh so you're actually saying that Riot would be able to make a clone that surpasses melee then?
geez and I though that question was silly before
>>340865776
you mean just like smash players move on to serious fighting games?
>>340850809
League characters are fucking terrible lol
was RT some kind of concept game in the first place with no real art assets or was it supposed to be an actual game? i can't believe it was a conscious decision to take a genre that lives and dies on its characters and not design any, instead filling the roster with babby's first generic robotmen design.
>>340865918
>>340865918
>lol
>>340857937
Smash isn't shaking anything up. If anything it's causing further segregation because smash players are the epitome of what you're saying SF players are.
There is no cross over besides Leffen and Bobby fucking Scar, and no one goes over to smash from the other side. Meanwhile you have SF feeding into both Guilty Gear(since a lot of Asian players came from GG in the first place) and Killer Instinct.
And people still have fond feelings for King of Fighters it's just that KoF has been mishandled so badly it fell by the wayside everywhere except China(where they only play 98) and Mexico.
Tekken isn't out, Virtua Fighter is dead, Soul Calibur has always been shit, and everything else is too niche to set up or care about.
But then again this is /v/ and /v/ knows literally nothing about fighting games.
SF is king because that's where all the players congregate in the end. Kazunoko said it himself.
>>340856591
>>340856887
>>340865470
Basically Riot tried to kill all competition by making anyone who held a tournament for their game be required to kick out any of Riot's competitors, specifically dota/smite/hon but also including SC2 in a few situations.
All "professional" LoL players are really just Riot employees and they basically give up all of their freedom when they become an employee.
>>340865614
rising thunder removed all execution requirements but it was still dominated by people good at fighting games. It got boring fast but I feel like it was successful at what it was trying to do and there's potential to make a decent casual fighter.
I wouldn't expect it to be instantly successful but I know very little about League and its fans. I think it would be fine if it ends up drawing some people in to fighters. If nothing else it'll be even funnier than the RT threads on /v/ with massive amounts of asspain from people new to fightans getting stomped.
>>340865551
RT had some of the best fighting game netcode I've seen
>>340865820
>Melee fag
Sorry grandpa
>>340866005ok friend
There's a very small yet dumb part of me that thinks Riot's gonna take a swing at a platform fighter a la Smash Bros.
Melee dates back to when Aesop created the internet yet still pulls in a large amount of viewers (and increasing), and Smash 4 does well. And I know Riot has multiple upper figureheads that love the series
>>340866093
God I hope not. This would be a perfect excuse to get my friends to play more fighting games, and I'd hate if it wound up a smash clone, if only because none of those ever end up good. I really do enjoy Smash a lot, but I think a good portion of the charm is the characters, and the whole "HOLY SHIT, DONKEY KONG VERSUS LINK" aspect, that tickles your childhood, and without that, it's just not very fun.
>>340865614
Aside from monthly heroes, that's exactly what Rising Thunder was.
If they go further than RT and all the skill requirements and burden of knowledge are removed, the game will be left with the one thing that cannot possibly be removed without significant randomization (something Riot actively avoid in LoL)
Footsies.
Are you saying you wouldn't want a fighting game that isn't almost completely focused on footsies?
Do you think the FGC would dislike a game more focused on footsies despite people claiming for months that was why SFV would be great?
>>340865968
honestly it doesn't matter either way
I don't think any Melee or Sm4sh players would be leaving these games to play some shitty casualized knockoff with a bad F2P model made by Riot
there would just be absolutely no reason
>>340866093
Smash doesn't get any play outside of the US. They'll make either a King of Fighters clone or SF clone because that gets play internationally including the all important China.
>>340848498
Could be good. With Riot's money they could hire all the talent in the world and assemble an all-star team of developers and it would actually have meaningful post-release support
>>340865945
Maybe they planned to be bought from the get go?
>>340865715
>Vlad is your least played robot
You were missing out anon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp1ncPAjFOY
More depth than SFV desu. I really hope the 6 of the League fighters are clones of the original Rising Thunder cast, Vlad was one of my favourite fighting game characters ever.
>>340866352
i thought Street Fighter's popularity was largely US only? And look how SF5 is doing
agreed on KoF though, and just recently learned that China's pretty big on the franchise
>nobody mentioning the new blazblue
It's already in Japan when is this shit coming to america?
>>340861087
Hahahaha.
>>340866337
>>340865492
ASW style where each character has a gimmick that makes each character unique to every other character by a long shot. Its the most suited if you think about it.
>>340866093
If riot wanted a smash clone they have a handful of developers they could have bought out that already have smash clones on the market, instead they chose to buy a company without a smash clone, with a slightly more traditional fighting game on the market, just to make them close it and make a smash clone?
The Riot fighting game is going to be Rising Thunder in everything but name, that much is obvious.
>>340866489
Give me 3 reasons why killer instinct isn't god tier
>>340866280
That didnt stop marvel, and that game has little to no footsies. The only reason it died is because of licensing
>>340848498
>LoL Fighting game
>Braum punching everyone in the goddam mouth
OH shiIET
>>340866581
While I do fucking love ASW style fighters, that doesn't really have anything to do with the question he asked, anon.
>>340848498
Nice, finally, can't wait for moba to die and non autism fighting games to become the new king.
>>340866673
this
idk why people think it'll be PC exclusive though
>>340866416
I could easily see blitzcrank as Vlad.
>>340866384
>they could hire all the talent in the world and assemble an all-star team of developers
yeah well too bad they hired these screw ups that nobody ever heard or cared about instead
>>340866732
Stop Marvel from what?
>>340866823
What makes you think they haven't hired any other additional people other than Radiant?
>>340866874
From making a fighting game whose sole focus is the worst aspects of fighting games
Long ass combos
Touch of death
Comeback mechanics
>chinkshit
>>340866823
Oh, you mean the fucking cannon brothers? The dudes that made ggpo and fgc?
>>340850104
Dont talk shit about skullgirls FAGGOT
>>340866953
what makes you think they have?
>>340866775
>non autism
Explain. What makes a fighting game "autistic"
>>340866874
UMVC3 or Marvel in general is all about broken things and it still garnered a huge following despite the absense of slow grounded footsie based gameplay
>>340866990
That's not at all what was being discussed, though.
Lengthy and ToD combos in Marvel 3 required more skill and knowledge than anything in Rising Thunder, that's what we're talking about.
>>340866079
???
>>340867139
Poorly worded, but I think he's calling MOBAs autistic while fighting games are not.
>>340867068
The fact that LoL makes over a billion dollars a year. They aren't constricted by a small budget
>>340867156
Yeah nobody is talking about broken things, nor how successful it is, what was being discussed is removing skill and knowledge requirements, Marvel 3 had plenty of stupid things but you needed to know them and have the skill to execute them, if you took those requirements out the only thing left is footsies.
The worst we can expect is Rising Thunder reskinned or something akin to Killer Instinct, easy combos, but have to be mixed up.
>>340867317
>LoL makes over a billion dollars a year
For their chink overlords.
FFS, they even hired bottom barrel deviantart "artist" for their splashs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp7QpaqTZds
>Not discussing about the little fan made LoL fighter that could
Same shit as RT, cooldown based gimmick on skills but with emphasis on tag based gameplay.
>>340867286
Oh because mobas need like a lot of studying to understand all the mechanics. But I actually think fighting games are worse because learning just one character to their full potential could take like a week or longer if you're new to fighting games.
>>340867642
Keyword is if you're new to fighting games. If you've got the fundamentals down, you can pick up a new character in a matter of a few matches, combos aside.(And even then, you can usually figure out a decent BnB, on the fly, even if it's sub-optimal).
>>340867589
Such as? Because their art assets have improved dramatically.
>>340867625
What a weird spot. This never came out, though it does look pretty shitty, then again those guys were doing it for free. Theyre really gonna push this cooldown based gameplay huh
>>340866004
>Smash isn't shaking anything up.
Yes it is.
It's showing that you don't have to ape SF in order to get massive numbers at EVO, which is surprising since Melee and Sm4sh have consistently gotten to the top of viewers/players for every year that it's been featured.
Think about it, two games, comparable to SF or MvC in its heyday in terms of viewers/players, yet have no overlap between them.
It's mindblowing to consider when you remember that smash doesn't play like a traditional fighter.
>If anything it's causing further segregation because smash players are the epitome of what you're saying SF players are.
Segregation that was caused by capcom cucks who cannot accept a non-Capcom game beating out SF or MvC.
You might find a few smashfags who shit on traditional fighters for stupid reasons too, you meet all types on the internet, but it's the fact that capcomfags have consistently shat on every other non-Capcom fighter for stupid reasons that basically boil down to "not SF/MvC."
They shit on western games because dumb shit like "block button" and "Xbone exclusive."
They shit on anime games because "touch of death" yet don't see the irony of hopping on MvC's dick.
They shit on smash because they "play on FD" yet don't see the irony of most top tier players picking training stage for most of their matches.
Among other things.
Smashfags are a self-contained cancer that rarely branch out of their bubble.
Capcomfags are a cancer that spreads their bullshit throughout the entire fanbase until you end up with a collection of drones who look at Capcom fighters as the be-all, end-all of what a fighting game can be, even when they fuck everything up and end up adding random bullshit that divorces it more and more from SFII's gameplay.
>>340863868
Well no I wouldn't
>>340867041
the skullgirls fanbase is 99% people who don't play it and just post their waifu
they don't actually play it, cause it sucks
>>340867642
>a week
Nah, fighting games take tons of time to learn. SFIV has a much higher skill ceiling than any MOBA and it can take forever to train your muscle memory to consistently land combos if you're brand new to them. Not to mention how hard to understand something like footsies can be despite seeming so simple.
SFV has cut down on a lot of that difficulty, but it can still prove tough for newcomers. I think part of the reason why fgs are less autistic is because you basically have to rely on yourself. You don't have any teammates to fling shit at when you lose, so really it was nobody else's fault but your own.
>>340864472
Fuck off tortanicfag
>>340866953
Riot's been hiring people for years from everywhere, they haven't done shit
>>340868081
>99% people who don't play it and just post their waifu
>they don't actually play it, cause it sucks
Is Skullgirls the Overwatch of fighting games?
>>340868081
>they don't actually play it, cause it sucks
As someone who loves fighting games, but doesn't play Skullgirls? It really doesn't suck at all. It's a very solid Marvel styled game, but that's not the kind of game I enjoy, so I don't play it. I can appreciate it academically, because it does a lot of shit right(And there's a ton of things that it does, that need to become industry standard, like the super comprehensive training mode), it's just not a game that appeals to me.
>>340867317
I think you're operating under the false assumption that LoL's profit is the same thing as their entire budget
I mean if money wasn't an issue for them why would they even be wasting their time with radiant when they could just get people who actually have experience making, and even just finishing for that matter, a half decent fighting game
>>340868081
>cause it sucks
>implying its not because they suck at the game and hate to see "their waifu" get rekt every time
>>340848498
I might actually play something league related for a bit. I'll admit RT was fun for a little while but not really worth sinking much time into or buying. Then again, I don't know exactly how far they got after the first beta phase since I kind of tuned it out afterwards.
People who play fighting games won't want it because most likely it'll be too dumbed-down and simple, and LoLfags won't want it because it isn't LoL.
You don't have to be a genius to see why something like a LoL fighting game using Rise of Thunder mechanics would fail. They'll need more than that. A reskinned Rise of Thunder would flop horribly.
>>340865820
Everyone loves Smash but nobody wants a Wii
If they want to make a casual appealing game with controls like Rising Thunder, they should borrow some ideas from Pokken, like the insane damage scaling they have.
I see a lot of potential with a f2p fighting game. Hell, I think it can go toe to toe with the player base of mobas. Throw in some waifus instead of generic robots. Add tons of skins. Maybe add a gem system like Marvel Super Heroes to customize your character. Add a ranking system that's insanely addictive. Also fighting games are very esport friendly because everybody can understand two characters beating up each other. That's a recipe for a billion dollar game.
>>340848498
Riot has no idea what they're getting themselves into.
You can't just go from a casual bait, team based skinner box to one of the most technical genres in existence where any poor outcomes are the result of your OWN failure.
It would flop.
>>340848498
> /v/ playing fightin' games
riot was incredibly lucky with league. their next game would flop so hard. i mean, they wouldn't have a practice mode because it would be toxic
>>340868465
We are talking of "skill is toxic" Riot. I'll bet they'll add cooldown to the special moves and a "pres R to ultimate" skills. Mark my words.
>>340867589
>bottom barrel deviantart "artist"
Sure
>>340868465
>fighting games
>esports
>implying it isn't always just asians vs asians
This is probably why they made smash, just so there's more diversity in the tournaments since that game is 50% skill and 50% luck
>>340867139
>>340867286
I meant pretzel motions and whatnot. I like RT hotkeys.
>>340868353
Of course not.
But it's much faster and easier to buy a half-finished product and modify it to suit their demands than make everything from scrap
>>340869056
actually that sounds kinda interesting, having every character have their specials on a cooldown. theres a couple of assorted characters with similar concepts but i don't think a game where every character has cooldowns exists
>>340867589
I remember seeing an article saying that Riot makes like $800 per second.
>>340869168
You literally don't understand what you're talking about. Either that or you've based your entire opinion off of watching a single grand finals match of Street Fighter IV or something.
>>340848498
probably gon be shit but hopefully it'll give us a new Jinx model to fap to
>>340869168
>>western fighting games
>>esports
>>implying it isn't always just niggers vs niggers
This is probably why they made smash, just so there's more diversity in the tournaments and mentally handicapped people can participate too. Like the special Olympics of vidya.
>>340848498
I have zero (0) confidence is riot's ability to balance a fighting game, or even make an engaging engine for that matter.
>>340869056
Stop talking out of your ass
On the contrary, Riot has been making LoL harder and harder for new players to start playing
>>340850104
fuck you, Weaponlord is godlike.
>>340868081
you don't play fighting games, how would you know?
>>340852349
If it's free, Riot will monetize it.
>>340869056
>>340869234
Rising Thunder aka the fighting game scrapped to make this LoL fighter had skill cooldowns instead of command inputs. So yes it's very likely going to be the case
>>340869416
>Riot has been making LoL harder and harder for new players to start playing
How, increasing the grind for runes and the FotM champions? Because they removed any complex element out of the game.
>>340869056
So it'll be Rising Thunder?
>>340869416
the only difficulty from lol comes from how long the grinding takes
>>340866352
Part of me wants the kof clone because those are fun, but I'm afraid to see how far riot will go in supporting this idea.
If SF5 of all games is any indication, online will be filled with crying about nerfs to day one shit and they'd do it, without giving people any time to adapt.
>>340869402
Fighting games shouldn't be balanced. Real life fights aren't balanced. One person is better than the other going into a fight, one person hits harder or is faster, or more resilient. Imbalance is good.
>>340848498
Ok all shilling aside. Rising Thunder was great aside from shit character designs. League of Legend sucks ass aside from their great character designs. If they make a LOL fighting game they will literally make a perfect game.
It'll probably shit itself and LOL-fags won't appreciate it, but if they do it right they can make something beautiful.
I don't think you can dumb down fighting games enough to attract a casual audience in TYOOL 2016.
>>340869269
No not just SF4 but motherfucking all the street fighters. It's completely ran by asians. I'm not saying only Asians play but if its American vs Japanese you can take a guess who will always win.
>>340869603
>>340869634
Really? I was just joking. Now let me laugh even harder.
>>340866093
If the mechanics aren't shit then I'll play it.
>>340868225
>it doesn't suck at all
>it's a very solid marvel style game
>it does a lot of things right
the problem with what you're saying is the audience it attracted wasn't the marvel crowd, it was the beginner fighter crowd who heard exactly what you're saying: it's solid, and does a lot of things right that should be industry standard
and then they play it, and realize it's a training-boar reset memorization game, and then don't play it anymore
so if a game fails to attract it's desired audience, and instead attracts an audience that was mistaken in what the game actually was, i think it's fair to say that the game sucks
>>340869616
>>340869649
Adding new champions, items and game mechanics somehow makes the game easier? Can't say I agree with you but I guess it must be true if you say so!
>>340869393
OK that's more accurate lol
On the one hand fighting games will become more popular on the other hand the game Riot makes is going to be one where all execution for moves is removed and could essentially cause all other future fighting games to follow suit if the game Riot makes is largely successful
>>340869675
>fighting games shouldn't be balanced because irl fights aren't balanced
jesus christ anon be careful with that stupidity. You're going to hurt someone.
>>340867041
>tag team with less than 10 characters
IT'S SHIT
>>340869838
Last time I checked they removed items and reworked the dragons to make the players play the objectives as Riot wants, enforcing their braindead meta.
Also all new champions are nearly the same, so they don't add more deep to that shallow game.
>>340869675
>FPS games shouldn't be balanced, in real wars one team has more soldiers or better guns!
Please tell me you were merely pretending anon.
>>340869762
Honestly, cooldowns didn't have that much of an influence on characters. The shoto-clone, for example, could reliably zone with hadoken-clones.
1 button ults made it so that people would play safer, and you couldn't put down mindless pressure without taking a big risk for it.
>>340868423
I'm sure the majority that aren't straight up capcom purists will be curious enough to give it at least one go. Like it or not, league is popular enough for most people who've played video games to see the name once.
If it's just going to be reskinned RT, then it will more than likely die in a couple months because the more experienced people will adapt ultra fast and get bored and the big league crowd most new to fighters will give up in frustration. Unless riot decides to pull out the big guns with marketing, of course, then we get maybe 3 months.
>>340869931
It's simple. If I were to fight you I would win 100% of the time. There's no balance there. I'm stronger, taller, and probably faster. But that's because I've worked at it.
Look at a fighting game. Say one of the characters is an ancient threat that is the master of all forms of combat as their backstory, and someone else is the captain of a ship. The ship captain isn't going to go toe to toe with the other dude every, under any circumstance.
>>340870234
They shouldn't be, and lots of them aren't balanced. The only balance in most FPSs is that players can, at some point or another, have access to all the same guns but in games like older CoD games when lower levels couldn't access higher level guns, the gameplay was very imbalanced and that's totally fine.
its gonna be scrub casual garbage like rising thunder
>>340870018
SG has 14 characters
>>340870060
They've only removed half a dozen items but they've been replaced with a dozen new items
How does it enforce the meta if they add new dragons which give different kinds of rewards? Some of them you might not even find useful in a certain kind of team comp, making you not want to risk getting the dragon at all
>>340869675
>fighting games shouldn't be balanced
Yes because there's no reason at all to make a game fun. We should be forced to pick only 3 characters that are fucking viable right? Yeaaaaa, diversity is for pussies
>>340870405
>It's simple. If I were to fight you I would win 100% of the time. There's no balance there. I'm stronger, taller, and probably faster. But that's because I've worked at it.
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>340869675
>I play Gill
It's going to be casual, fun to mess around with yet boring after a couple of months just like Rising Thunder.
I can't fucking wait
all the threads that are gonna be made about this stupid game
>I always liked fighting games
Literally the overwatch crowed
>>340870541
>How does it enforce the meta if they add new dragons which give different kinds of rewards?
Players were ignoring the dragons, since they didn't worth the risk. Like how they stop with ganks, since farming was more rewarding.
Riot wants to force some fights to make the esports less boring to watch, so they increased the dragon reward to force players to fight it or lose. Is pretty lame.
RIP Rising Thunder. Talos was my favorite character
https://youtu.be/auZIzowsMAQ
>LoL
Franchises must be outlawed reeee
How? League doesn't have a single original, memorable character.
There was that robot with a grappling hook and that girl with blue braids that gets pushed everywhere, that's it.
>>340870405
Yes but let's say I like pirates and I wanna main that ship captain. There is no reason to spend all my time and effort into training as him if there's characters that are regardlessly better, and therefore I would get my money back because I can't play as who I wanna play. Fighting games aren't real life
>>340870895
I liked the armadillo.
>riot will never make an h game where you can play as all the waifus and get raped
>>340870779
Players were ignoring the dragons because they were useless, it was a balance issue.
Right now they give different kinds of rewards. For example you probably wouldn't even need an out of combat movement speed bonus unless you were running a pick comp but if you do then it helps out a lot. The new dragons are there to make different kinds of comps viable
>>340864021
Epyon made it work, granted he's possibly the worst the 3k unit.
>>340871016
>never
Never say never
Let's make a kickstarter anon
