It hasn't gotten better than this and you fucking know it
>>340846949
I'm okay with this.
The gameplay definitely got better.
The story? Not so much.
>>340847220
Only in 4 and V
3's stealth is menu-driven, a brilliant idea on paper with a terrible execution
>>340846949
I think it's the peak of the series along with MG2 and Ghost Babel.
>>340847220
I don't think the gameplay got better either.
>>340847960
Have you played Solid 2?
Christ, I love the game but some of the stuff is just mediocre.
Like peeping, the camera, aiming.
>>340848068
If l hadn't I wouldn't have called it the peak. The controls for peeping are a little awkward. I don't have an issue with anything else, though. Especially not the camera. But improvement in some areas doesn't mean I think the gameplay got better overall.
>>340848068
>peeping
Just press r2 or l2 while against a corner, never got the gripe against that
>The camera
Impeccable for the game's purpose
>aiming
Never got a problem getting headshots fast while aiming, have you tried_______________________gettin gud________________________________________________?
>>340848330
And then there's the case if you want too shoot out from cover where you would have to hold L2, hold L1+R1 to peep, control stick to where you wanted to aim and then press circle.
That is the most convoluted shit I have ever seen.
1/3 > 2 > rest
>>340848068
It's meant to be bad
You just don't get it
>>340849000
There's nothing wrong with the camera or aiming, though.
>>340846949
This is bullshit and you know it, series started at 3 and skipped 4
Only good games are Big Boss games and Kojima-sama is a fucking god
REMINDER
>>340849272
>>340849365
>>340849139
(You)
It got a dozen times better with MGS 3, the best in the franchise.
And gameplay wise, it got better with each new installment.
Still a good game. I like it.
>>340849618
>the best in the franchise
1 is the best
>>340846949
mgsv was bad xD
mee mees xD
5>2>3>1>4
>muh story
>no fun allowed
>>340847220
I think GZ had better gameplay.
>>340849845
I think V is way too high on your list, but I respect your opinion because you put 4 where it rightfully belongs: The bottom.
>>340849618
>It got a dozen times better with MGS 3, the best in the franchise.
>And gameplay wise, it got better with each new installment.
Eh. MGS3 had better presentation, but it also introduced a superficial "more is better" design philosphy that carried balancing issues which have persisted ever since. MGS3 definitely had better bosses, though.
>>340849845
But V only has good core gameplay.
Everything surrounding it is vapid.
MGS2 was the peak of the top-down, linear 2D style.
MGSV was the peak of the open world 3D style.
Is Ground Zeroes worth buying on Steam if I've already played Phantom Pain (enjoyed it, but will never play again)?
More like Jewnami
>>340850559
Ground Zeroes 2 and other bigger facilities is what we should've gotten
Not that spread out shit
Get it, it's good, cheap too.
>>340847384
>3's stealth is menu-driven
God knows what the fuck that's even meant to mean, because I'm pretty sure I wasn't in a menu when I was shooting guards or sneaking past them
MGS2 definitely had the most interesting story out of the entire series. The entirety of Arsenal Gear is one the best moments within the entire franchise for sure.
Although, MGS3 will always be my personal favorite since I enjoy that entry's gameplay the most and it's the only one in the series I ever got motivated to playthroughs on the hardest difficulty and do pacifist runs. MGS4 was incredibly mediocre and it dropped off in quality severely after the 2nd act. And, fuck whoever thought that following around that dipshit resistance leader for most of Act 3 actually constitutes as interesting gameplay.
I haven't played 5 since I couldn't stand the base-building in PW and MGS5 seems to just be more of PW's base building focused gameplay style.
>>340850783
He means that you are frequently changing uniforms and other camo. Checking what eat and so on. But you already understood that didn't you.
The Metal Gear Solid trilogies are a lot like the Star Wars ones.
And yes, I'm totally calling MGS4 the Phantom Menance.
>>340846949
What are you even talking? SE is the best MGS game ever made
MGS2 is still the worst game in the series.
>b-but it was intentionally shit
>>340851012
So you just called 2 the best
Also
>midichlorians
>nanomachines
It only made sense.
>>340851115
>>340851087
And here come the fun adventures in the URSS saturday morning menu based cartoon fanbois flinging their shit taste everywhere as usual
>>340851202
I actually like the first one the best.
I honestly dont get the appeal of MGS2. The bosses suck dick, the levels are all repetitive, the story is all told in codecs.
Its the Apollo Justice of Metal Gear. Only there arent people who go on about how deep that game was because you get to make the jury choice in the post modern final trial. They just acknowledge that game was shit
>>340851362
>vamp sucks dick
>the ray fight sucks dick
>solidus sucks dick
If MGS3 is the best in the series, how come it has the lowest sales?
I personally think its the most boring of all the MGS games until MGSV:TPP came along.
>MGS1 = 5.51 million
>MGS2 = 5.64 million
>MGS3 = 4.00 million
>MGS4 = 6.00 million
Highest sales in MGS history for that time, and only released on 1 platform, PS3.
>MGSV = 6.00 million
A shit load of money and time later and released on every platform not owned by Nintendo, only manages to match sales of MGS4.
Source:
http://vgsales wikia com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid
citing wikipedias list.
>>340851560
>solidus sucks dick
uh, yes. Yes it did. Ray fight wasnt great either
>>340851679
So you haven't even tried pacifist...
>>340848838
2>1>3>The Rest
>>340851362
The levels are repetitive aesthetically. But in terms of structure and enemy placement each area is pretty distinct, even the connecting bridges. I agree that most of the bosses are weak, though. The game's appeal is in being tight and fluid. It avoids the superfluousness of MGS3 and the games after it, emphasizing tight arcade-y stealth that avoids balancing issues but still affords the player variety in approach.
I think the narrative is by far the most interesting in the series too, but that isn't the main draw of the game for me.
>>340851560
Yes
Yes
And mostly
>boy howdy did I love standing around waiting for Hispanic beefchest to surface so I could shoot him
>boy howdy did I love dodging a volley or two of rockets, shooting a stinger, then rinse and repeat like twenty times
>boy howdy did I love that you-gotta-touch-him-real-quick-and-go sword fight
>>340851560
>vamp sucks dick
I'm sure he would, given the chance.
>see this thread on the front page
>i never browse /v/ but the Metal Gear Solid made me click
When I was a kid I had so much fun playing Metal Gear Solid on Playstation 1. Then I had to choose between getting a Playstation 2 or an Electric Guitar when I asked for both for my birthday. I ended up choosing the Electric Guitar so I never got to play Metal Gear Solid 2 or try out a Playstation 2.
I have to say that playing Metal Gear Solid on Playstation 1 may well have been the single greatest time of my life. The game was just unlike anything that had ever come out before. Today's gamers will never understand what gaming was like before Metal Gear Solid but this felt like being in a film. It was mind blowing.
I wish I could live those days all over again. Nothing but fun after school with my friends without a single worry in the world. I'm 27 now and haven't played computer games in 15 years. Now I'm just a bitter old man who goes through the paces.
Just wanted to drop by and share this story because I got a genuine smile when I saw Metal Gear Solid on the front page of 4chan. My whole childhood suddenly came flashing back to me and made me happy for a few seconds.
Enjoy your games guys. Peace out.
>>340846949
The game is repetitious, most of the levels are shit (bomb defusal, swimming mission, escort mission, swimming escort mission), the bosses are also lame
>>340852017
Thank you for confirming that MGS is shit for making games into movies
>>340852017
Play MGS2
Then quit vidya again, you're set
Honest to god it is the greatest game known to me.
And I didn't choose the electric guitar
>>340852017
I hope you have a good day, anon.
>>340852017
Fuck off faggot
>>340852017
how can anyone consider Ground Zeroes a game? It was more like an extended demo version.
Also
MGS1 (genre defining) Snake Eater and MGS4 were the best games in the series. There is literally no discussion.
As good a place to ask as any. Just finished MGS2 and jumped right into MGS3 and I seem to be having trouble sneaking up on people to get a choke hold. Every time they seem to turn around at the last second. Am I doing something wrong? Never had this issue before.
Also, can I slit people's throats or something with the knife?
>>340852416
>There is literally no discussion.
Sure there is. I like MGS2 more than those games.
>>340852535
You have to use the D-pad to perform the slowest walk. Slit throats by putting more pressure on the CQC button. It's pressure-sensitive.
>>340846949
It's weird though...
Every MGS so far had it's flaws and none of them were perfect at all. I have a nostalgia hardon for MGS1 but you can't deny that MGS2 was a historical milestone in vidya. Then MGS3 took most of the things that made MGS2 so good but also went two steps back in other aspects. For instance, I personally think that the boss fights in MGS3 were bland as hell, except for The End and The Boss. But I'd take a fatty rollerskates sipping on wine anyday over a fucking bee man or whatever the fuck The Fear was.
Every Metal Gear game is kind of unique in its own way.
>>340852559
MGS2 was also very good, to be honest. Had a few really, really stunning moments and the story was rivetting with a nice ending.
Basically Ground Zeroes is the only game that stands out in a negative way -- not that it itself was bad but because it wasn't a finished product, just an effin demo.
