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Do people really not think Warped is as good as 2? Warped is the most fun of the original trio imo. Crash 2 is the BEST game of the originals, but Warped is the most fun.
too many gimmicky non platforming levels
>>340839369
This basically.
It's easier. That is probably the reason. As a child I had an easier time beating Warped than 2 and never beat the original. That said, have you noticed how they tweaked the controls in 2 compared with the original? It's kind of subtle but it improves how the game feels a lot.
why crash 2 is the best
>>340839201
I was too young when I played them to say which was better but I enjoyed all the "classic" Crash Bandicoot games, including Wrath of Cortex. I found Twinsanity disappointing but I changed my mind when I replayed it after these garbage mutant games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTrXyJ0W-XY
>>340839369
pretty much this
2 had a good balance between platforming and fun gimmicky levels. 3 went too far with the gimmicks, like the jet ski and plane levels which were so different than the core platforming and pretty bland.
>>340839201
I was just thinking earlier today and I'm really really wondering if anyone ever fucking managed to fully complete Crash 2 without a strategy guide of some sort.
>Trying to get that fucking red gem in the snow level
>>340839889
But. But.
As a trade off we got the fucking based as shit dinosaur riding and motorcycle levels.
Jet ski a shit though.
>>340839892
Most of the secret elements weren't too obtuse, and really just rewarded thinking about the level you were in. They used enivromental clues to make players risk things.
>Hey, the polar bear tossed me, I wonder if I can go back that far
>I saw some ice blocks before the exit there
>Why was this wall in the sewers utterly covered in Nitro?
>weird, I don't think the Nitro blocks in this one spot are bouncing or making noise... that's not normal
Etc, etc.
A lot better than "let this ONE particular pterodatcyl grab you" in Crash 3.
>>340839369
The ones that aren't are great though.
Fucking loved Tomb Wader.
>>340840182
I forgot about that pterodactyl bullshit, you're right. I think when I was a kid I did legitimately stumble upon the non-explosive nitro boxes but I don't really remember a ton since it has been so long.
>>340839369
yeah but tiger and the motorcycle levels. but the underwater ones, the airplane ones, and especially the jetski ones ranged from boring to infuriating
But which one had bettermusic?
>>340839892
When I was playing it as a kid I think the more unusual secrets I found by accident rather than looking for them directly (including that fucking red gem). Don't think I ever got 100% completion but I got pretty close.
>>340839810
Wrath of Cortex was actually my first Crash game, and I though it was pretty fun so I got the original trilogy and those games were great.
WoC wasn't that bad but if you play it after the originals it feels like just a blander version of them with shinier graphics. (Also holy shit those loading times were awful)
Is Twinsanity actually worth playing? All I know about it is the music is neat and some people seem to think it's a fun game
Crash 3 is the best. Crash 2 only served to refine Crash 1 in preparation for Crash 3. Crash 2 has the best hidden stuff though, like entries to secret levels.
>>340839201
Warped levels are built around Speed running, which is why they gave the run power up to Crash and created Relicsfor time trials.
And that is not a bad thing, it's a great thing. I do think Crash 3 stages are the best designed one in the series. Level design in Warped is spot on.
What makes 3 inferior to 2 are the terrible vehicle stages. 2's jetpack stages were horrible too but at least they were two or three and that's it.
3 has the best final boss in the series too.
>>340839201
Reminder that Warped had 4 (Four!) Jet Ski levels!
Crash 2 had 11 different level themes, and Crash 3 had 10.
Crash 2 had an even amount of gimmick levels and all themes had either 3 or 2 levels in them. Crash had 3 gimmick themes out of 11 for a total of 9 out of 27. 33% (This includes the Stream levels and the jet board, discounting this we get 6 out of 27, for 22%)
Crash 3 was a lot worse. It had 5 of it's themes dedicated to vehicles and the other 5 to platforming. This equals a total of 17 levels out of 30 for 56%. (If you wish you can discount Dino Might and Eggipus Rex for 15 out of 30- 50%)
So yeah, Crash 3 is gimmicky as balls
>>340840495
You will either enjoy or hate Twinsanity, there's really no in between. It doesn't adhere to the convention of having a hub area that you access levels from and the platforming isn't very difficult really, but it's kind of a fun little quirky game with some decent self referential humor and stuff like that.
>>340840592
What really made the final boss of three for me is how Uka Uka and Aku Aku were having their own duel the entire time.
Crash 3 had some fucking great boss fights in general now that I think about it.
>Tfw you could cheese the fuck out of dingodile by just slide jumping over his ice wall
>>340840592
>>340841218
It's always a shame when I reach the end of Crash 2 and get to that lackluster Cortex "race". Crash 3's finale is so much better.
Plus, dat remix of his theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Y7k3eB2is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxk_v7xIzAE
>>340840182
Blue gem though
The only reasoning I can see for that would be "Oh I got the clear gem by breaking the boxes what if I didn't break any?" And then the red gem is clear shown in the next level to hint that not all the coloured gems solutions are the same.
I wish the kept the same method of finding hidden warps. Death Routes are alright, but don't give the same feeling of surprise when you find it.
>>340840410
2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsvHQCTgHvg
>>340841467
I always forget the Blue Gem in that regard.
On the other hand, I can't fault them for doing things like that. It's a short game. It needs difficulty and parts that really make you think to increase the length and justify the cost you put to get it.
At very least the games are kind enough to label what levels have what gems, so you don't have to redo everything going "WHERE IS THAT DAMN FOURTH BLUE GEM"
>>340841536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3kKedUjjI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ig-Hd8tczU
>>340841218
>Tfw you could cheese the fuck out of dingodile by just slide jumping over his ice wall
I realized that only few years ago. Man, I was so mad, I always fought him in the "legit" way.
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSOJudlGNoA
>>340841747
Beautiful. Like all pre-console themes.
>>340841536
Correct answer is actuallyCTR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZWL4xZDXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wy74bpUu8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKFoTd68gNA
>>340840882
Road levels are too samey because the only damn thing that changes is the Police Car behavior.
Water levels aren't really gimmicks because they play like any other water levels in any platformer ever.
Jet Ski levels at least had some semblance of level design to them. Water physics can screw you over but they're easy unless you drive like a drunk.
Fuck the sky levels.
So, Crashbros, how are you cooing with the Crash in Skylanders leaks?
Is that the Crash Sony promised us on the last years? Or maybe it hints to a proper Crash game?
>>340842256
>cooing
Welp, what the fuck is that
>>340842256
I love Crash and I like Skylanders, so I'm completely fine with that.
A proper Crash game is coming regardless. The Skylanders business is just riding the hype (provided this Crash edition is really about the bandicoot; last year Skymiibo dual packs were labelled "Crash" for distribution).
>>340839369
This sadly. Over time, I've grown to toletate those jetski levels but fuck the rest.
man, the fucking bongoshit and xylophone music has not aged well in these games
>>340843072
Says you nigger. I like those didgeridoo like.
>>340843072
I like it.
>>340839201
It tries to do too much shit and compete with like 5 different Mario series. They should have stuck with proper platforming like the first crash.
>>340843872
>barely hear the stage music
>wind tunnel level audio
>needless face cam
I'm glad you didn't get that Platinum relic.
Discuss.
>>340844149
This desu
More than half of the game is vehicle levels.
Platforming on the first warp level is also shit.
So what, only 1/3 of the game is platforming? 10 fucking levels.
>>340839201
I think it's fair to say that 2 is the better game but 3 has the better bossfights.
>>340840218
>When you finally get the timing down, and the water doesn't stop you while going for the platinum relic
![latest[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/T2blbs0.gif "latest[1].gif")
Ripper Roo is the best boss design.
>>340844280
Cute but Tawna is better.
>>340839201
>Crash 2 is the BEST game of the originals, but Warped is the most fun.
>"the better game is the one that is more boring."
are you retarded?
>>340844280
The tall bitch was hotter
>>340842095
>Fuck the sky levels
I used to think this but on my most recent playthrough they were stupidly easy, like "I don't know how I ever thought this was remotely difficult" easy. I even got the platinum relics on the air levels before any others.
>>340842256
Crash in Skylanders is simply going to be used as a marketing tool for a new game. Pretty genius, it exposes him to a younger generation who don't know him, while U4 exposed him to an older generation.
even if warped spends too much time on non-platforming, i do think it had better music than the previous games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeZrLE08K6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292ni0Qrum0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRNU6PZXNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=binB5ypZSOE
not that crash 2 had bad music. just that crash 3's music is better.
>>340839201
I missed the little pedestals at the end of levels in 2
>>340844620
>Crash in Skylanders is simply going to be used as a marketing tool for a new game
Hopefully.
Best theme coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvM4P9Qn4no
>>340844912
It's funny how different it sounds when you don't have all the sound effects and stuff
>>340844640
Apart from the main theme, Dingodiles and Cortex boss fights, China and Egypt levels warped doesn't really have memorable music. Don't even ask me how the underwater levels go
>>340844882
It's pretty much confirmed, there was an announcement that Imaginators pack would star a guest character ala Dk and Bowser.
>>340840313
>disliking the china levels
nigga fuck outta here
that was like a good sonic game inside a crash game
>>340844149
>>340844282
>>340843872
So rude :(
>>340845241
>The little tiger can go super fast if you hold down R2 or whatever
Shit ruled. Polar bear a shit.
>>340842852
>tolerate jetski but fuck the rest
wot
Motorcycle and the china wall levels are great, jetski can die in a fire
>>340846525
>>340843872https://www.twitch.tv(dot)sparkledart
The jetski levels are fucking stupid, especifally if you're trying to get good/platinum relics
>>340847247https://www.twitch.tv(dot)sparkledart
I was going for 100% run and theonly stages I couldn't 100% were the jetski levels...
>>340841370
hands down the final cortex fight was hype as fuck. I'm with you that i prefer crash 3 boss fights to 2
God damn if a new crash game comes out and its good im gonna be weeping huber tears of joy
>>340839201
I vastly prefer hub/level selects that are either map based (Crash 1, Super Mario World, etc) or are just straight selections outside of the gameplay (Super Meat Boy); Crash 2 & 3 always seemed odd because the hubs are just empty, not like Mario 64 where the hub has content (ie the Castle + Grounds).
>>340847247
>>340847949
I think that (dot) is supposed to be a /.
>>340842256
I'm not a fan of skylanders but im with alot of the anons here that say its a smart move to get the younger generations involved. If he's got a good design too i'll even buy it day 1 to go next to my japanese crash plush i got years ago
I'm ready for a new crash game if it happens i'll be crying tears of legit joy... its gonna be 2am though here so i'm worried if i'll make my family up but credit to them... they know how much i love crash so they'll be cool with it
>>340839892
I got a fair chunk done. I'd say those two gems you earn by finishing the river levels within a time limit stumped me the most. I never realised what the time limit was for until a few years ago.
>>340842473
>last year Skymiibo dual packs were labelled "Crash" for distribution).
Is this true? this is actually really interesting and could change everything
>>340841536
That's cheating.
>Tfw I'm the only guy watching the stream
Hopefully he'll be too drunk to remember it
>>340839201
Trying to do an all Platinum relic run of Warped is a painful experience. I'm 7 or so off from doing it.
>>340848234
Same here, same timezone too. I hope to wake up and see sites flooded with Crash news. I'd buy a PS4 just for it.
>>340839201
Warped was godlike and better.
>Warped's soundtrack
Goddamn, it's so good.
>>340839201
i fucking love it
some of the best levels
>>340849429
This happend to me for ff7 i woke up on went on youtube to see what was missed and yeah saw the ff7 immediately went and watch all of sonys press conference so at least i wasnt spoiled with the last guardian and shenmue 3 but this im gonna stay up for it and just take the hit on work the next day.
>>340841747
>>340841998
https://soundcloud.com/joshmancell
Joshmancell is the composer for most of the crash music so alot of the pre console mix is there. I remember hearing back some time he had trouble uploading his music for copyright reasons so its good that he's able to get something out now. I love listening to it but im hard pressed to think what's the best soundtrack
Why does modern ND fans (like most Neogaffers) hate Crash?
Its games are so good. Better than TLOU anyway.
>>340849959
Modern ND fans don't hate Crash. Don't be a retard. And no, Neogaf doesn't represent ND fans.
>>340848982
I would watch, but no Crash music
I assume there's some here who've gotten all platinum relics? Honestly, getting those was some of the most fun I've gotten out of a Crash game.
Warped > 2Crash Bash is better than both.
>>340850216
I would enjoy getting them all a lot more if Tell No Tales and Hot Coco didn't exist.
>>340850060
Everywhere on the web you see people arguing ND should stick making mature games and that Crash wasn't anything special either.
I wish I was kidding.
>>340850216
>I assume there's some here who've gotten all platinum relics?
I tried. I can't. Underwater and vehicle levels kill my enthusiasm.Crash Bash was crap.
>>340849708
>https://soundcloud.com/joshmancell
Amazing. I remember I downloaded Totome from the Play Store because people praised the music. Well, the music was good. The game ran like shit on my phone though.
>>340839201
I never cared too much for all the scuba/racing/tiger/airplane missions. Warped has too little of good tight platforming and too much of branching out into all directions when it comes to gameplay.
>>340849708
I always prefered spyro music to crash (especailly the first spyro game) but after hearing the pre console mixed its now alot harder to call what i prefer.
Is there anything like this for spyro?
>>340845450
You can speed up polar too
>>340852237
>Is there anything like this for spyro?
I am interested in this too.
>>340840182
>>340840292
to be fair the pterodactyl thing is for going over to 105% or whatever, not necessary for 100%, it's more like an easter egg
>>340853432
>Not going over 100%
Casuals
>>340853639
it's absolutely fucking retarded, it defeats the whole point of a percentage system
I remember in crash bash I had something like 140% before even beating the main fucking game, I have no idea how far did it go because that game sucked anyway so I stopped playing
>>340853764
It's glorious exactly because it's retarded. The idea of surpassing the possible completition level is exactly in-line with the wacky mood and humor of Crash games. Plus, for a kid, finding out you can surpass the 100% is mind blowing.
>>340841536
>>340841678
>posting the shitty console versions
why
>adding time trials
Nothing is more bullshit than adding in time trials to artificially extend the game. Granted, it did sort of fit with N Trophy but god damn do I hate them. Made perfect sense in CTR, though.
>>340841370
>when you realise it's a remix of his previous themes
>>340854083
Hey, pre console versions are better but the console versions are still good despite PS1's limitations.
Plus, not all tracks have their pre-console version available.
>>340852237
>>340853235
I downloaded the Spyro 1 OST and it had some alternative tracks. It's the most similar thing I've found.
How the fuck was there room for those huge demos on the retail versions of games? The Spyro demos in Crash games especially were massive.
What happened
>>340854093
>N Trophy
be honest anons
how many of you thought that was his name
>>340854459
Crash games roms are not very big.
>>340854503
The model on the left isn't by Naughty Dog.
>What happened
Pandering to some specific users.
>>340854503
Taking a name literally.
>>340839201
Warped has too many gimmick levels, especially the 3d dogfight levels.
Other than the jetpack crash 2 is 100% solid all the way through.
>>340854503
The one on the left is Traveler's Tales though.
>>340839201
3 Has to many crap gimmick levels
I hate the underwater, jet ski and flying levels
>>340846525
I mean they're shit but they're fairly straightforward vehicle levels with no real danger unless you really fucking suck. Except Hot Coco, fuck that mess.
>>340854559
Mother fucker
>>340854459
Back in the days, devs would be careful at the size of their software, because of space limitations. They tried to keep the game as light as possible, few compressed videos, very compressed music, more reliance on polygons than textures. Basically, keeping the game polished.
Something only Nintendo and few other devs keep doing today. Most companies just throw shit into a bluray like uncompressed music and other heavy shit like unusued assets, who cares, there's a lot of space! That's why most PC games are over 10 GB for instance.
>>340854459
all 3 crash games fit in a single cd an I'm pretty sure there's space for more, just google crash collection
>>340855038
>>340855195
weren't' the discs under 700mb? That's kind of incredible.
>>340855274
Coding and optimizing meant somthing back in the days.
>Sonic's ass game
>>340855474
Whoops, wrong thread, sorry.
>>340855541
That was what ND called the first Crash during development, anon.
>>340853764
Crash Bash just goes up to 200%.
>>340854503
>Sierra
Looking back it certainly relied on more gimmicks than 2 did.
This was part of the belief that you can't just make Crash 2 again and justify it as a sequel, and it's not like they were terrible, but the result is Crash 2 is the more honest, vanilla game since it refines Crash 1's gameplay and ties it consistently into the overall game.
And in general whilst it's easy to appreciate the more universal time travel theme, Crash Bandicoot stuck to unique jungle environments and so on and it means the game has more of a unique quality to it. Crash 3 is more of a generic platformer in comparison.
>>340854503
>Left is a Thylacine
>Right is a Begal Tiger
I actually find CoTT and MoM really fun, but I will never not call them out on this shit.
Fucks sake Radical
>>340852237
Spyro 1's soundtrack was the best of the three. Stewart Copeland just went to town while laughing that they were paying him to play vidya. He even included the track for the Jacques level in one of his greatest hits album.
>>340856202
>I actually find CoTT and MoM really fun
"Fun" in a "so bad so good" way, right?
>Pancakes!
>>340856046
201% actually
It's fucking insane
>>340856220
I prefer the Spyro 3 music personally, but mainly just because Fireworks Factory is incredible
You guys talking about soundtracks?
>>340856275
Some of those platinum relics are a nightmare. Co-op made everything so much easier at times but a few of them became so much harder, especially gems. For the race levels I'd get my brother to drive backwards and crash into the others while I had an easy win.
>>340856260
Fun as in, I find the titans, beat em up and platforming gameplay enjoyable, even the skating areas are good, and I love how you can upgrade them in MoM.
The writing though... Yeah it's really bad, like 80% of the time, most of the best lines come from the minions when they're idle. Thank god MoM toned down the "LOL so randum humor XD" by a lot.
>>340856408
Talking about gameplay is too hard, so yes.
>>340856343
Spyro 3 music is so hit and miss, spyro 1 is consistently good.
>There will never be a game with the world of spyro 1 and the tight controls of 2 & 3
>>340856516
That was the same tactic my cousin and I used.
Fuck the ballism levels though, P2 had it rough
There are so many Crash Bash fans, huh.
Can you tell me if Crash Boom Bang is worth playing?
>>340856760
No. Not at all.
I played it recently and the mini games suck
all of them.
>>340846525
>motorcycle
>anything but hot dogshit
>>340858116
Just don't let go of X after boosting and the level is done in about a minute
Hope bump
>>340860045
This is an interesting approach. I am pretty sure out there there are game devs that first compose the music and then change the game depending by the music.
He pretty much does the opposite. He tries to give the right mood by playing the game.
>>340856220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQq6rXdFGwE
>>340860312
sorry i killed the post you were quoting
found a better quality video
>>340860314
>>340860412
No problem, is still very impressive.
I have the feeling Insomniac is still pretty much like during gen 5, while ND totally changed style.
>>340850216
>Crash Bash is better than both.
>thisCan'tBeReal.png
>>340854559
Notnotme
>>340860790
I am very surprised to see so many Bash supporters.
I remember I was so disappointed by playing it, coming from things like the original trilogy and CTR. Like, who the fuck was that gorilla?
>>340860936
It's terrible, but to each their own I guess
Way too many vehicle stages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowlQeQZg70
![36950-Gex_-_Enter_the_Gecko_[NTSC-U]-2.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0GquDCE.jpg "36950-Gex_-_Enter_the_Gecko_[NTSC-U]-2.jpg")
who /Gex/ here?
>>340862050
I'm so sorry for you, Gexbro. I almost hoped to see him in smash for you.
>>340862050
Present, and suffering
>>340839201
I only have a problem with underwater levels. But they're not as shit as the ones in CB4
>>340863028
>CB4
There is no Crash 4. Just that shit called Wrath of Cortex.
my ig is makaylabot im 14 f; send me anything to pleasure me
>>340863884
sent ;)
>>340863361
>Japan has ruined our right to have a new crash game called Crash Bandicoot 4
The japanese marketing apparently continued with the numbers post naughty dog
>>340861075
Hating on relics....
I actually wished crash 2 had relics
>>340865420
I thinks relics were a great thing. The level design of Crash 3 is stellar exactly because they were created with time trials in mind.
