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So, for the millionth time, does /v/ truly hate this game? Or
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So, for the millionth time, does /v/ truly hate this game? Or is it just a meme?
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>>340821440
Well most of us want a remake so...
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>>340821552
I've never seen anyone mention wanting a remake until just now.
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great game shat on by FF7 babbies and/or retards who didn't understand the junction system
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>>340822268
The junctions system is a fucking joke. That's coming from someone who likes the game.
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/v/ is tsundere for VIII
typical, it being a love story
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draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw draw

a masterpiece
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>>340821440
It's on the same level of Chrono Cross in both gameplay and story, but it doesn't have decent visuals or a godlike soundtrack. It's one of the worst JRPGs on the PS1. Only casuals retards thought it was good because they never played a good RPG in their lives. Final Fantasy 13 is a better game.
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>>340822934
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well I like it
so there's that
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Literally all FF games suck besides number nine.
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>>340822819
I love how this criticism is somehow bundled consistently with the level scaling
you can beat the game literally drawing like 2 times, choosing to skip enemies
Or you can beat the game with perfect junctions and drawing all the time, fighting everyone

>it's a /v/ whines about having choices thread
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>>340823668
>criticism
dude i love the draw system. it's how I meet most my gfs
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>>340821440
I loved this one. When I was young, I got caught kissing Rinoa on the TV screen and my mom screamed at me LOL.
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>>340821440
>/v/ is one person
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LITERALLY EVERYONE HERE HATES THAT FUCKING GAME. EVEN YOU. LITERALLY EVERYONE. IT IS A PART OF THE MORPHOGENETIC FIELD OF /V/. YOU COME HERE AND YOU KNOW IT'S SHIT, YOU JUST FUCKING KNOW.
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I actually don't like it. I didn't like it when it came out, and I played it again a few years ago just to see if my tastes have changed.

Out of the 6 characters, I didn't like 3 of them. Zell, Quistis, and Selphie were all pretty cool, but Irvine didn't really do anything for me (and his role in the worst plot hole of the game didn't help,) and I absolutely loathed Squall and Rinoa. Laguna and company were amazing, though. I loved those segments.

The music was pretty good. I still listen to Eyes on Me and Breezy from time to time.

The plot and story were bad. Time travel is an amazing concept, but is not done well in this game. Also, I will never not be mad at Irvine. The playable cast all grew up at the same orphanage. They all knew each other. All of your party members have forgotten about it though, since equipping GFs gives you memory loss. Except that Irvine hadn't equipped a GF before joining your party.

And the combat system is terrible. Junctioning absolutely breaks the game. With a small bit of planning at the beginning, you can go through the game without having to fight random encounters, with stats high enough to beat any boss you need to. The game can be beaten without gaining a single experience point, with Squall never going above level 7. Since junctioning correctly nets you max stats, the only thing levels do in FFVIII is make enemies have better stats, as they scale with your level. This is counter-intuitive, to say the least.

So I didn't like the story, a decent amount of the characters, or the battle system. The setting was good enough, I like more "modern" RPGs, with technology in them (I was big into High Fantasy when I was younger, and I kind of burned out on it.) The music was pretty god. Visually, the game was great at the time. But it isn't a game I will ever really say I enjoy. A few of my friends like it, and it's not like it's the worst game ever, but I don't want to call it good, either. I put it at slightly worse than average.
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>>340823668

People got upset at Starfox Zero having a game mode where you couldn't lose. That's just an option, isn't is? Replace draw with transmute. It saves you a bunch of time, but still doesn't fix the easily broken battle system that trivializes the game. FFVIII isn't the worst game of all time, but the junction system was too easily abused to actually be fun.
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>>340821552
you are the first saying that
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>>340821440
This poofter walks up to you and slices your gf in half, what do you do?
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>>340828120
Wait for a new one t o come
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It was my first final fantasy and my favorite one still to date, but the junction system is wildly unbalanced. Either people don't bother reading shit and think they can't cast magic or have to draw for it all game, or you end up with squall's ultimate weapon in disc 1 with minimal effort. In that respect, anyone who "hates" ff8 may be justified. Any other issues else are just shit taste
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>>340822819
Or you could just refine stuff instead
hell you didn't even need to grind at all due to the retarded level scaling, why draw over and over again? Outside of a handful of magics it's not even that helpful
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>>340821440
no. it's just confusing as shit.
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I never played it tI'll recently because I watched my brother play rpgs as I grew up
It's shit
Fucking space witch?
That awful magic system
That practically non existent weapon system
Fuck FF8
FF6 was the best
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>>340828958
>Fucking space witch?
That's making it sound really cool to be honest.

FF stories are almost all melodramatic nonsense anyway, FF8 is standard shit for the series in that regard
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>>340822268
I understood the Junction system.

Getting the spells was a fucking chore, level scaling was badly implemented, the characters sucked, the love story was poorly written, the writing went full retard on disc 3, and trpple triad sucked
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My favorite final fantasy
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>>340822934
>but it doesn't have decent visuals
The visuals were good for it's time for what it's worth. It has aged like hot garbage though same goes for Chrono Cross

>or a godlike soundtrack
FF8 does have that though.
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>>340822429
this

all you have to do is be an autist for a half an hour and draw stronk shit and you can quadruple your health/attack/defense. Junction would be fine if it didn't have a disproportionately magnified impact on your combat effectiveness

coming from a guy whose ringtone for the last couple of years has been:
https://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff8/sounds/mp3/FieldsofBeryl(PatrickWaters).mp3
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>>340828876
>you can not grind by grinding!
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>>340829370
If you want to grind, you can do the easier option of refining
if you don't want to grind, you can not grind too because of the stupid way the game's difficulty works

note how I split that into two seperate points in both that post and this one
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>FF8 thread
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>>340829817
not everyone who hates FF8 watched his videos. Like how people who hate Dark Souls 2 did not watch that Matwhathisface video

I hated FF8 long before his videos came out.
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the game had many flaws but it's not nearly as broken as some people make it out to be, they were trying to do something different with this game and it didn't fully worked out
the fags writing the script were probably high as fuck, either that or squall is dead for most of the game
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>>340821440
Refer to this picture, but this Final Fantasy is in fact the best one
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>>340822934
6/10 made me reply
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>>340821440
I don't hate it. But I do think it's one of the worst Final Fantasy games. Story was meh. Combat was meh. Drawing would have been a super cool mechanic for one character. Junctioning is broken.

That said, it was fun but incredibly easy.
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>>340830879
>was incredibly easy

Name one Final Fantasy that wasn't easy with the >appropriate level of grinding
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>>340830951
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Final Fantasy is the pinnacle of gaming challenge. But that doesn't change the fact that VIII was really easy, even pre ridiculous sidequest rewards and two hundred hours of Devour farming.
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>>340829370
Cards aren't the only things you can refine
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>>340831597
but everything else is item drops and that kicks in the level scaling
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>>340831862
>but everything else is item drops

You can buy things. You even get a paycheck in game instead of money being dropped
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>>340831918
takes forever to get the paycheck
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>>340832037
Get a better paycheck
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>>340832094
I used the internet to max the tests but it goes down due to behind the scenes shit, it goes down.
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>>340821440
no, liking it is a meme though.

it's only strong points are the OST, monster designs, summons, and some of the environment designs.

The plot, characters, gameplay, mini-games are all pure shit.

8 is the second worst FF with 2 being the king of the hill for the title.

Hating 10? Hating 13? now those are memes.
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>>340832256
>it goes down.

Stop being bad.
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>>340821440
VIII will always be better than IX even if hipsters get butthurt about it.
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>>340832345
I would if I knew why it was getting docked
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>>340832280
10 is actually shit though. It relies too much on minigames, and all of the minigames suck. The combat is alright. That's all it has.
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>>340832406
Because you're not doing anything. Its still based on your SeeD level and score. If you fuck around or run in circles you aren't doing shit.
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>>340832509
you're thinking of 9 which is actually shit, 90% of it is mini-games.
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>>340821440
It's fun.
Then you beat sorceress edea and the storyline plummets into the fucking ocean.
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>>340832589
>Because you're not doing anything.

because you get lost. Like with the white SEED ship
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>Park Ragnarok somewhere
>Go adventuring
>Forget where your spaceship is
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>>340821440
the only thing FFXIII did right was make me see FFVIII & X in a better light. so yeah, it's average.
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Final fantasy became shit at ten. Anyone who tells you otherwise is some faggot born in the 90's.
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>>340833175
born in the 80,s started with the original, enjoyed 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 12, 13

now come the fuck at me underage rledditor memebag
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>>340832345
Literally nothing you do can stop it. If you fight lots of encounters you are penalised for not following the story. If you follow the story the cutscenes take up so much time that you are penalised for not killing things during that time. There is no way out of the cycle.
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>>340821440
It's my least favorite of the PSX era FFs, but the music and graphics are fantastic. Still miles better than XII and XIII as far as I'm concerned.
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>>340829817
He hates FF10 even more though so he's alright in my book.
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>>340835065
>hated 8 and 9 but liked 13

ew
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>>340829140
>Getting the spells was a fucking chore, level scaling was badly implemented, the characters sucked, the love story was poorly written, the writing went full retard on disc 3, and trpple triad sucked

I agree with all of this. Perhaps 8 wasn't that bad as a stand-alone Final Fantasy game, but it was a massive let-down, especially in the story department, after 7.
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>>340821440
Everything about this game was absolute shit. I'm serious, it had no redeeming qualities for me at all.
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>>340829140
>Getting the spells was a fucking chore

Depends on how you do it

>level scaling was badly implemented

Absolutely.

>the characters sucked
Half and half.

>love story was poor

Could have been better

>writing gone retard on disc 3

How about disc 2?

>triple triad sucked

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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>>340836578
8 is a meme game, 9 is a furdora game, hating 13 is a meme.
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>>340837060
Your opinion is a meme
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>>340832094
>waiting for paychecks
>not just refining all those tents and other shit and reselling for infinite dosh
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>>340821440
It's pretty shit.
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>>340823463
*tips furdora*
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>>340823463
>not liking Final Fantasy Tactics
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>>340823463
>he didn't like Mystic Quest
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>>340832280
13 is legitimately bad though. It's a straight line with no side exploration for well over 30 hours, the combat is a shittier version of 12's, every character sucked except Sazh, it has a bright and colorful world you can't even interact with, and so on and so forth.
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>>340832280
>my first JRPG was FF10: the post
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>>340838042
nice meme pasta
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>>340821440
I perfer the ff7 and ff9 world movement. Watching people follow you in perfect step is really annoying. Junctions where annoying i much perfered ff7 or ff9 systems. Triple triad best game ever though.
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>>340821440
The 3 best FFs ever released were on PSX. VIII is the worst of the three. That's it. Thread over. Argument over. Go home.
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>>340822819
>Not abusing your GFs
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>First reply isn't "whatever"
>Only a single "whatever" reply

/v/ is dead.
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>>340822819
Look at this faggot playing video games with walkthroughs and guides.

Seriously, who in their first playthrough knew how to abuse draw/junctions?
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>>340840139
>filename isn't "tfw no gf.jpg"
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>>340822934
>It's on the same level of Chrono Cross
>It's one of the worst JRPGs on the PS1
Wew, m'lad.

Both are great games, though I agree that CC's OST is better. No shame in having an OST worse than CC's, because it's certainly the best soundtrack I've heard.
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>>340840213
When the game stressed pretty fucking early that that was you only getting magic skills since draw points in world were so far apart from each other and useless
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