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What went wrong?
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Literally nothing
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you couldn't take her with you
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Couldn't loot everything, couldn't return after leaving
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>>340788696
The money didn't get proper healthcare
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It forced you into a particular playstyle that you either found really fun or really tedious/annoying.
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>>340788696
>always play hardcore
>guns character, get ass kicked cause I'll I can find is fucking shit melee weapons
>next character is melee build
>don't even have to worry about the fog
But yeah as other anon said, can't go back. To get the casino up and running again and be a resort manager was a missed opportunity
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>>340788961

>you couldn't reunite her with Veronica
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>>340789284

This.

First-time playthroughs were a bitch if you were used to the freedom of the base game. God help you if you didn't have melee/unarmed points or neglected stealth.

Second and subsequent playthroughs were great though.
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>>340789342
But the whole point was letting go.
Ain't a sims game.
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Is it ever explicitly stated what the cloud is made of? I don't recall ever reading anything about it in-game
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>>340788696
It was letting go
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>>340790067
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cloud
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>>340790306
Can you even into reading comprehension? I said what it's made of, not where it came from. And "artificially made toxin" is non-specific.
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>>340788696
Speaker sections failed at creating any tension and felt more like a waste of time than anything else. Ditto for the fart clouds.
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The gameplay was a bit shit towards the end when you were doing platforming with unbreakable speakers but overall it was alright 8/10 would play again knowing what I'm in for.
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>>340790660
That's all that's explained.
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>>340790067
Pretty sure it's just bullshit horror science like most things developed at Big MT
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>>340788961
it's letting go
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>>340789626
This.

My PC is a female, but I'd settle just to watch their...reunion.
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>>340790660
>And "artificially made toxin" is non-specific.
Isn't it obvious? Bleach, ammonia, 9000 copper coins, salt and baking soda
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>>340788961
it still hurts
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>>340789626
>you couldn't reunite her with Veronica
been awhile since i last played almost a year now what did you mean by this?
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>>340791112

christine and veronica were lovers, but the BoS doesn't like the gays and forced them apart, and you have no option to reunite them
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>>340791173
veronica wasn't gay, waat?!
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>>340788961
DM had the best fucking characters. I never cared as much about an NPC's wellbeing as when I played nice with her and didn't force her into the tiny space in the substation thing.
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>>340789342
>get police pistol
>go to vending machines for nigh infinite ammo
>trade in cigarette boxes and clothes for extra chips if needed

it's really quite easy, even on hardcore mode. Especially since you have companions through half of it.
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>>340788696
Nothing.

Probably the best DLC imho senpai
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>>340788696
Too many mechanisms introduced in too short of a time (speakers, toxin clouds, hologram security, reviving enemies, platforming ffs) all of which had to be encountered without your previous gear.

Survival horror was a good idea. I like it when fallout puts you in to a corner and actually feels like there's real risk and danger involved in the wasteland.

This was closer to micromanagement horror- tedious and repetitive.
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>>340788696
What went wrong? It's the only good NV dlc.
What went wrong with the rest of those fucking dlcs?
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>>340788961
How did she get her voice back near the end?
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>>340791275
How fucking late to the party are you? She straight up says the brotherhood broke her apart from someone because they couldn't procreate, using female pronouns for that someone. Her story matches up perfectly with Christine's.
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can someone please tell me what happens if you ask Daniel to evacuate the Sorrows in HH? I'm too ambivalent about how things turned out, it's eating me up
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>>340791275

bruh
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>>340791275
There's no real conformation that either was gay or bi, they were just lovers.
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>>340791393
Oh, and the fact that if you didn't max up points in melee or unarmed, you were in for a special kind of hell.

DLCs should reward players of any playstyle, not a few niche builds.
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>>340791428
She never actually "lost" it, it just went out for a while after the surgery. The autodoc she was in was programmed specifically to heal Vera's voice if it were to go out for any reason before the Gala, so Dean had it set up that she'd wind up in that autodoc, receive Vera's voice, and be able to open the elevator to the vault in the Madre.
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>>340789626
>you couldn't take her from veronica and make babies with her
Unlike that dyke, Christine was bisexual.
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>>340791459
>>340791512
never really connected those dots, to be fair, from having that conversation to meeting Christine, alot of shit happens inbetween... also like she doesn't come off as gay just super enthusiastic.
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>>340791567
>Oh, and the fact that if you didn't max up points in melee or unarmed, you were in for a special kind of hell.
why? you should be perfectly fine with the holorifle. if you run out of MF cells, I believe you can buy more with the chips
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>>340791452
It's about a million times more anticlimactic. You basically run with Joshua to the tunnel they're using as a way out. Pretty sure you don't even encounter Salt Upon Wounds, but I might be wrong about that.
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>>340791452
You get the best ending.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Honest_Hearts_endings
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>faggot characters in videogames
>we wuz tumblr n shiz
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>sawyer is still answer new vegas questions
This dude is awesome
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It's impossible to 100% if you've been improving your S.P.E.C.I.A.L before taking it on as one of the unmarked quests requires you to get everyone's story and you need to have an intelligence rating of 4 or lower to get Dog's story.
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>>340791567
>DLCs should reward players of any playstyle, not a few niche builds.
no, i think they should focus on making a good dlc first and apply whatever playstyle they want to that dlc
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>>340791680
No she's not, you can only use Cherchez La Femme or Confirmed Bachelor to bond with her over the woes of being gay.
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>>340791567
>Oh, and the fact that if you didn't max up points in melee or unarmed, you were in for a special kind of hell.

How so? I beat that whole DLC using just the Police Pistol.
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>>340791878
Alcohol reduces INT temporarily
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>>340791680
Being able to comfortingly hold her hand as a dude doesn't mean she'd fuck you, buddy. If anything, Christine is gayer since she's the one who threw the shit fit about having to get a dick inside of her and left the Mojave brotherhood.
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>>340791942
You use that to bond with feelings of being outcast. If you have confirmed bachelor AND lady killer you're bisexual anyways.

The hand-holding scene is the same regardless; it's all up to interpretation.
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>>340791753
You missed the boat pretty hard on that one. My favorite part of Dead Money was connecting Christine's storyline to Veronica's- made particularly cool since she was a mute character for most of the campaign.

Not trying to come off like an SJW or anything, but I really liked that. It added variety to the world, like "oh yeah, the wasteland is awful and will do things like that to people". Don't even care that it was Obsidian trying to save lines of dialogue.

How would you guys rank the DLC by the way? In my view:
Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts > Dead Money > Old World Blues.
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>>340792179
>OWB ranked that far down
>LR that far up
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>>340792179
> Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts > Dead Money > Old World Blues

Exactly this. You have true taste.

Old World Blues is the worst by far, I have NO idea how people call it the best.
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>>340788696
Literally fucking nothing, the characters and backstory were solid (the weapons and armor were cool too). The limited supplies were a nice touch, I find it funny that people complain about them.
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>>340791808
that would seem to be the best ending. the thing is I felt the dlc was pretty unclear at times. for insteance most quests you get, the large majority, do not have any dialogue directly tied to them. it was hard to know what mattered and what was what. I had no idea what the Great Staircase was, I still don't. if it's safe then that is the best ending. my interpretation of the situation was that they were pretty much gonna wander out and try to settle in the Wasteland, and my take was that they'd never make it through direct contact with your average fiend assholes. far as I knew they were lost either way, and the reason for that, again, is that I didn't understand what was relevant and what wasn't in the dialogue.
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>>340792179
Old World Blues > Dead Money > Honest Hearts > Lonesome Road
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>>340792404
>thinking OWB is better than LR
Pls leave Fallout 3
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Since this looks like the new NV thread, I've got All roads ready to dump, if anyone's interested.
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>>340792179
>>340792424
I really enjoyed Lonesome Road but c'mon

mine is DM = OWD > HH = LR

none of the DLCs were perfect, but after experiencing Fallout 4, I consider all the New Vegas DLCs to be fantastic

it's unbearable that bethesda somehow managed to take two steps back from new vegas
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>>340792521
this guy's got it
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>>340792521
>OWB first
>LR last
Ew. At least DM is second
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>>340792523
shit taste tbqh
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>>340791841
link me, think the last site he was went under
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>realizing ED-E is the package you delivered that triggered the detonations

LR actually had some really good moments when you look past all the BEAR BULL
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last thread died, post more fanart
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>>340792179
>How would you guys rank the DLC by the way?

Dead Money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else


DM is the only one I bother to replay. The rest are crap.
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>>340792179
>Not trying to come off like an SJW or anything,

Pretty sure even the general "no fags in my games"-people recognise that FNV has the best gay characters in gaming. As a gay dude I really find these characters more enjoyable than the blatant pandering with unrealistic characters in other games anyway.They're realistic because their sexuality is something important to them and their story, but it doesn't govern who they are nor are they eager to brag about it, as little as any normal person is eager to bring up who they've fucked. FNV does it right.
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>>340792662
>OWB is "good taste"

Literally a meme DLC. Overwritten dialogue (even though I love based Avellone) fucking boring, repetitive quests and a fucking homebase.
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>>340792679
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=je+sawyer+tumblr
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>>340792869
thanks senpai
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old world blues is pretty great.
AN ARRAY OF FULLY ERECT HAND PENISES
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>people are still parroting the OWB is penis jokes and memes bullshit

It's like you didn't explore or pay attention to what was actually going on
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>>340788696
The best DLC for New Vegas.

Nice bait though.
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>>340792501
You need to know a bit about mormonism to really appreciate HH.
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>>340792737
>realizing ED-E is the package you delivered that triggered the detonations
really?
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>>340792998
>old world blues is pretty great
>posts a meme line
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>>340792827
Funny that you mention overwritten dialogue. LR was way to linear and the dialogue was a snoozefest. The only thing that DLC had going for it was the weapons and armor.
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>>340792179
Dead Money > Lonesome Road > Old World Blues >>> Honest Hearts

Honest Hearts was unbearably tedious, don't know why people call the collars bullshit.
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>>340792996
No problem. Has a lot of cool stuff into both the development and lore considering how many autisticly indepth questions he answers.

It's pretty amazing to be honest.
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>>340793047
>calling your own bait nice
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>wandering around in Zion with Waking Cloud
>sneak mode
>all of a sudden she starts to loudly pray and begs me not to leave

HH had the worst fucking companions jesus christ
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>>340793086
Or just Christianity in general, Daniel and Joshua are working off broken scriptures.
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>>340792424
thanks
>>340792404
>>340792521
I really loved the humor of OWB. There was a fuckton of dialogue, but I enjoyed most of it.

The problem was that Big MT was incredibly boring. I had no desire to explore every location in depth, but I did all the side quests and did at least complete the map. Both OWB and Dead Money suffer from incredibly repetitive tasks. Dead Money edges out since it was at least more ambitious and felt very different from the base game- plus it had better lore.

Honest Hearts' biggest failing is its length. Way too short, even with 100% completion, and Zion is fucking tiny.

>>340792501
Grand Staircase is a location in Utah.
To be honest, Zion is fucked no matter which way you take it. It's really just a decision of whether you want Joshua Graham to become even more of a monster or not. If you care about Happy Trails, then eradicating the white legs at least makes it an economic boon. Otherwise I always go for the less genocidal route.
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>>340793092
Yeah, the entire DLC is pretty much Ulysses egging you on so that you'll bring ED-E directly to him so he can initiate the launch at the end.
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>>340793127
>Linearity is automatically bad
I also think you misunderstand overwritten.

Same amount of lines as OWB, sure, but the dialogue was actually relevant to the main story and had purpose. OWB was just way to much meme writing.

>The only thing that DLC had going for it was the weapons and armor

Go back to Fallout 3.
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Going to start dumping interesting JE Sawyer responses. Up first, Liberty Prime and House basically confirmed.
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>>340791428
The advanced auto doc in the hotel room. She mentions something quickly at the start of your conversation.
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>>340793417
why do you keep using buzzwords?
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Seriously though, how did they get the storytelling and gameplay so spot on in the base game but managed to make every single DLC totally shit?

I really do struggle to believe that it was the same team behind them.
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>>340788696
I like survival horror games, so I really dug it. Nothing wrong, imo.
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>>340793650
>but managed to make every single DLC totally shit?
this better be bait
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>>340793718
>this better be bait
that's basically what I was thinking when I played all of the DLCs.
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>>340793650
Funny, I think it's the opposite way around. The base game is a bit sloppy but overall the DLCs are much more interesting.
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>>340793598
>you used a word I don't understand
>"buzzword"
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>>340793417

>reading comprehension

he said it was "way too linear" as in "linear to the point that it was bad".

And it was. People whined about New Vegas' "linear" beginning through Primm/Nipton/Novac, but in LR there are walls that literally funnel you from point A to B. Fallout isn't about being directly funneled from one point to the next, and if I wanted that I'd just play Brotherhood of Steel.
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Compare Bethesda's lack of attention to weapons.
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>>340793906
>meme dlc
>meme writing
you realize these aren't legitimate arguments right?
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>>340793361
geez i knew my memory was bad but i'd like to think i would remember that don't remember much about the game even though have played it for several thousand hours... probably because i played all the other fallout games up to fallout 4's launch
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>>340792938
>Daniel looking like Joeseph Joestar somewhere between BT and SC
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I find myself always quitting out of fallout games as soon as my immersion is broken and only picking it back up if I'm in the mood. With that in mind, Dead Money and Honest Hearts were the most immersive to me. Lonesome Road was a bit harder to stick with because a lot of it felt like 'why are you telling me this if not just to give lore and background'
OWB was fun but totally irrelevant and was the hardest to complete for me. It suffers the most from my least favorite parts of fallout, which is wackiness just for wackiness' sake. But to each their own.
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>>340794090
>OOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Does anyone here use TTW? I'm having problems with the train, I hit the switch with the ticket in my inventory and all but it doesn't let me travel

>inb4 playing TTW
I like some of the DLC locations
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>>340794090
Holy shit
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>>340788696
>Wrong

Dead money did everything right. The ambient is some of the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3YlnzXAr4
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>>340793324
>Joshua Graham
his fate or oppinion didn't really way in. I just wanted what was safest for them so there would be any chance of their culture living on
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>>340794219
OOOOH MY GOOOOD
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>>340794048
But it was.

It had repetitive quests, dialogue which didn't really have much of a story and just focused on making jokes.

Some were funny, sure, but most were just "TOE PENISES"

Even the main piece of loot from the DLC is a stealth suit which literally makes jokes when you wear it.

I don't have a problem with jokes, but why people think it's the best of NV's DLCs baffles me.
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>that god tier voice acting

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/53/FNVHH_JoshuaGraham_OnlyUseForAnAnimal.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20131114121706
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>>340794395
>that distorted song playing at the fountain
>those prewar warning sirens going off
>the breathing of the ghost people

Muh nigga. If DM did anything absolutely right, it was the sound design.
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>>340789284
To me, that was the best part. I was playing as a rich white girl with energy weapons, science, speech and barter as main tags. So when i came to the Sierra Madre for the loot only to be stranded with shitty bullet shooters, spears and crouching, it REALLY made it feel tense/spooky. And still after all that i ended up having to leave without the gold.
Fucking Genius
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>>340788696
nothing. it is perfect. very narrative and a change of passe.
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>>340793598
he's shitposting, that's why.
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>>340794395
god I loved that ambience

here's something super similar:

https://youtu.be/KyKTci5gf94

>the moans and the wind are nearly indistinguishable
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>>340794484
>>340794343
>>340792938
>Part 9: Honest Hearts
>Joshua Joestar
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>>340794637
These are the things that can make Bethesda games fun. I'm glad it turned out well for you.
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>>340792179
Dead Money>Lonesome Road>Honest Hearts>Old World Blues
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Does anyone know how to check weapon animations in FNVedit? Asking again, but I fucked up and messed up the animations pretty bad.

Also, do you know what mod would cause my companion's clothes to appear in their inventory, outside of the obvious mods that do so? But weirdly only some clothes, like Cass's hat but not her clothes.

>>340794758
>bethesda games
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>>340794712
No I legitimately think OWB is a meme.
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>>340794506

>I don't have a problem with jokes, but why people think it's the best of NV's DLCs baffles me.

Best guess is that after 2 DLCs that were more or less straight-faced and serious, people were looking for a bit of humor, and OWB was delivering it in spades. In retrospect, it was pretty cringey humor that didn't hold up well over time, but at the time it felt like a throwback to Fallout 2 and the more lighthearted bits of Wasteland.
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Dead Money was probably the best DLC I have ever played. Definitely the best DLC from NV.
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>>340794560
we posting god-tier dialogue now?
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/1/17/DM_Dean_GetUpWithoutMyPermission.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130604210032
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/c/ca/DM_God_WorldsGotAnotherCage.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130604195808
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/54/OWB_Mobius_ManyThingsForgotten.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130616173042
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>>340794936
Yeah, I agree. I did actually enjoy a lot of the humor that was missing.

But it was overwritten humor. And the terrible repeating quests and shitty homebase didn't help.
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>LR forces you to launch a nuke in order to progress
>Ulysses bitches about it

Do you want me to bring you ED-E or not, you massive faggot?
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>>340795108
>shitty homebase
Take that back, right fucking now.
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>>340794506

The exaggerated humor contrasting with the veritable atrocities the scientists committed in the past is a pretty fantastic realization.

I didn't like the humor either, especially after the first meeting which was like 30 minutes of listening to mostly unfunny dialogue, but the way the story wraps up at the end redeems it.
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>>340794718
I love stuff like that. Resident evil 2 had some serious spooky ambient too, back when i played it the first time. Entering that police station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6sJCK-OyY

The Siren and Fountain Ambiance from DM is out of this world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unV3EaTXltY
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>>340795172
It was. I have no idea why people think that the homebase is cool.

That said I don't real see the appeal of a homebase outside of a tent or a simple hotel room.
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>>340795291
*really
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>>340791808
Evacuating Zion is objectively terrible
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>>340795291
Then there were plenty of that shit all over the wasteland for you to thrown your shit down in.

The Sink was actually a cool place you felt invested in, not some dumbass room with trash #404
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>>340795146
is LR gonna make me do shit I don't want to do to advance the story? am I gonna fag out and refuse for like 5 minutes before I realize the game is no fun if nothing happens, and then just do the shit I didn't want to do and be kind of annoyed while doing it?
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>>340795398
why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux79vZ-ymXs
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>>340795408
I suppose it's just me. I don't see the appeal of a homebase outside of somewhere to throw your shit down and rest.

Too much like I'm decorating a room in Sims or something.
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>>340795508
Randall Clark wouldn't have wanted that.
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>>340794334
>inb4 playing TTW
who has ever complained about TTW?

did you turn it on? think there's something you need to do, read the mod description
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I love how a quote that basically means "i was so fucking pissed off when i got literally set on fire that i was determined to survive" has become a pintrest tier inspirational quote
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>>340795409
It's all in the decisions you make. Pick the easy way out early on and it'll bite you in the ass later.
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>>340795625
we don't Really know that
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>>340795508
>sheltering the Sorrows away from the rest of the world instead of letting them come to terms with the fact that, yes, the world is a harsh place and some people are scum
>leaving Zion, one of the last places of true natural beauty in the world, in the hands of a bunch of degenerate raiders who can't appreciate what it offers and pollute it
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>>340795723
I find it so hilarious that this has become a pintrest thing.

If only they knew where it was actually from.
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>>340795536

That companion portrait mod on the left is one of the most hideous looking fucking things I've ever seen in a videogame, why would you waste screen space on that shit?
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Joshua Graham's voice was pure sex. Afterwards Ulysses didn't sound so good.
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>>340795846
>I tell them never to hurt each other but that if someone else comes along and tries to hurt them to strike back with righteous anger.

Yes, we really know that
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>>340795508
The leave Zion ending was the red herring for the 'Let go' message. The true let go message was realizing that you need to protect things sometimes but not giving into senseless violence, and sparing their faggot leader so Graham lets go.
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>>340795873
and what the guy who said it was trying to achieve at the time
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>>340796021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXlrqM1N9No&index=6&list=FL0fTLN8YBDGw9O8g-fP-L_g
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>The Sink sat vigilant, waiting for its master to return, shoes covered in Mojave dust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730jXH_Ni7Y
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>>340796173
Tasty genocide.
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>>340788987
>The motto of the whole DLC is 'let go'
>Misses completely the point about choosing between running for your life or dying with the gold
Like casting pearls before swine.
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>>340796021
>go into sneak mode with Joshua as a companion
>he practically purrs "yessss" in your ear

I didn't want to have this reaction to Keith Szarabajka
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I like that siding with him and taking over the wasteland was added as a valid ending for the game, despite how incognito they made the option.
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>>340796040
>sparing their faggot leader so Graham lets go.
I didn't even really consider it. it felt misplaced. I decided his reputation was enough and it was too late to make it complicated anyways
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>>340795146
>LR forces you to launch a nuke in order to progress
pretty sure you can avoid the nuke can't remember though
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>>340796475
I always thought that the "whoa this isn't what I signed up for" dialogue option was retarded because Joshua literally tells you that he intends to exterminate the White Legs.
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>>340796475
>it felt misplaced
I don't know how you've managed to so completely miss the point

As much as he's moved on, as much as he likes to think he's moved on, he still has decades worth of brutality as the Malpais Legate in his heart, replacing the law of Caesar with the Old Testament. You need to remind him that mercy still exists.
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>>340796707
I mean the one that creates the Courier's Mile, not the ones at the end.
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>>340788696
They thought players wouldnt find a way to get all the gold anyway
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>>340795398
Get fucked Daniel. Conflict is an intrinsic part of the world, it's not something humans made up, and it's not something you can avoid forever.
The white legs are killing the tribes of Zion to get into the Legion, if the tribes leave Zion, the White legs will follow Fleeing will accomplish nothing.
Stay a bitch, choir boy.
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>>340796732
You didn't sign up for killing an unarmed person sitting on the ground for no reason. It's not out of place. You could very well interpret your intention as pushing the White Legs out of Zion.
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>>340788696
It's literally the best DLC for New Vegas

Excellent characters, survival horror, letting go

My friend told me to expect the worst since he hated it, and I went in expecting the worst. Instead, I got the best DLC (only one I didn't play was Lonesome Road). HH was alright but needed more Joshua Graham and Old Reddit Blues dragged on way too long.
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>>340796915
Meant for
>>340795508
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>>340791428
She didn't. It's not her voice, it's Vera's
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>>340796770
exactly how much of that was still in him I was not sure of. but it's not he that describes Salt Upon Wounds as the worst of the worst, it's the locals, the tribesmen and women. he is their plague, not Joshua's plague. whatever Joshua is or isn't doing doesn't really have anything to do with what Salt Upon Wounds deserves.
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>>340795945
it actually serves a function, you can command your companions from it and stuff like that, it's pretty cool but doesn't work with a controller so i don't use it
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>>340796732
You're expecting a fight. The White Legs have already shit themselves and surrendered. The fight is over and won. It's just a slaughter at that point.
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>>340796842
ah that
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>>340788696
nothing
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>>340796990
you get to kill him in combat if you want though
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appropriate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzh5UuqFEIE
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>>340788696
I love Fallout 1, Fallout 2 is "ok". But sometimes i do think that New vegas is the best of them all.

Maybe i just like the cowboy/rat pack shit too much, but even HH dlc is good.
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>>340797090
>not killing off the enemy officers rather than letting them run
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Everything about God/Dog was spooky as fuck. His final scene in rhe kitchen was seriously impressive in how unsettling it was
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>>340797310
>Fallout 2


>"ok"

DELET
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>>340797310
2 didn't really have a good set goal like 1 and nv did.
and there was too much mystical voodoo guy in 2.
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>>340797090
>t's just a slaughter at that point.
That would be a good point except for the fact that it's emphasized before you decide to drive the White Legs away that slaughter is exactly what Joshua wants.
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>Get to "The Coyotes" quest
>learn that the two faggots were selling families and kids to the Fiends especially cook cook
>torch them both
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>>340797407
Come now, you have to see how it could rub someone the wrong way. I like it, but it's by no means perfect.
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Last thread hit bump limit, wasn't able to have an actual discussion.

Can anyone explain to me why Fallout 3 is so disparaged here? Outside of /v/ it's generally considered the best Fallout game.

It seems obvious to me that Fallout 3's story is far superior to New Vegas'. Do people just prefer NV's gameplay or am I missing something?
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>>340797310
This is why I liked Hones Hearts.
It brought the indians to the indiands and cowboys thing I've been wanting from new vegas.
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>>340791173
>>340791275
>>340791441
>>340791459

SJWcucks, lol. This is what new vegas players are. Look at the invisible rainbow flag flying high above your head. I bet you have a shrine of J.E."SJWcuck"Sawyer in your room.
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>>340797471
Yeah, and you realize that it's not what YOU want and deep down it's not what Joshua wants either. That's why it's behind a high fucking speech check.
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>>340797520
Is that the one where if you search one of the dudes' rooms you find the Teddy Bear belonging to a little girl he sold to Cook Cook or something?
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>>340797346
SUW is their chief, their war leader. He ends up cowering in the mud begging you not to kill him.

He's never going to command the same respect after that. He's never going to be the same again after having seen real, unbridled fury.

White Legs are nothing but raiders, only as strong as their leader. Break him, break them.
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>>340797681
yes
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>>340797520
>Talking to sweety and learning Saint James fetish
I love west side, wish it had more quests.
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Don't know where else to say this, but I keep starting up fallout 1 and getting a few hours in, and then totally forgetting to go back usually bc i end up playing more nv. Should I try to stick with it longer? Does cool shit come up after the water chip issue?
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>play honest hearts
>go straight to the objective you're given at the top of the map
>dlc ends
Well that was shit
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>>340797586
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>>340797586
wait a minute this pasta...
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>>340797586
Here's your (You)
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>>340788696
>tfw opening the sierra madre while up in the tower
>suddenly loud alarms
>look down
>6 ghost people lurking around in the courtyard
>red dots everywhere
>[DANGER]
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>>340797632
Shouldn't you be preparing for your big day tomorrow, Todd?
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>>340797743
>say good bye to either of them
>"yeah fuck off!"
they remind me of cyrus
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>>340797743
>that one supermutant everyone is really chill with
>red lucy's fight club/fuck den
>showing the actual effects of the fiends on the outer vegas communities
>whores with character
>that shopkeeper who exists basically as a throwback to fallout 2

Westside had some pretty neat stuff going on.
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>>340797586
>far superior

In what way?
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>>340797864
>>340797882
>>340798125
S T O P
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>>340797789
Gets interesting when you get to Mariposa base
Make sure you do some Brotherhood of Steel quest to get the necessary armor/weapons
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>>340797471
It's about that time you realize he's not exaggerating or using colourful language to describe how angry he is, he really would up and "dash the little ones against the stones" if he could

You signed up for a fight, to either push the White Legs out of Zion or exterminate them if they fought to the last. They didn't. You pushed them out and Joshua goes off the deep end reliving his glory days as the Legate
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>>340797586
its shit
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>>340798125
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>>340797743
>tfw westside was one of the very last areas I found

I was pretty surprised it was there when I found it. There was a whole section of the map west of New Vegas and east of the plant vault that I never explored until I went marker hunting.
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My biggest complaint about DM is the explanation for the Ghost People. The suits are cool and everything, but they're apparently just the construction workers who got stuck inside of them when the bombs drop, right? There are a fucking million Ghost People, it just seems really far fetched that there'd be so many of them. Might have been neat if there had been fewer of them and they were treated like minibosses or something.
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>>340791841
Shit, I never made the Lawrence of Arabia connection. This game gets better every day I swear.
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>lenny from Fallout 2 joins the Chosen one on his quest for the G.E.C.K
>probably fucked Horrigan's shit along with Marcus
>either still alive or dead finally happy he got to save the world
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>>340798069
Oh god I love mean sunofabitch.
>Ha ha ha! I wash ma bown. Wesibe
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>>340798069
>Red Lucy
Okay I know it's just a bunch of fetch quests, but the quests with her are so fun. It's really only bc i want to fuck her so bad, but just the whole Thorn is great.
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>>340788696
i liked dead money alot, actually
i thought all the nv expansions were good in varying degrees
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Worst DLC ive ever had to witness.

I loved the game on my first playthrough and the first 2 DLCs.

Deadmoney made me drop the game 2 times with weeks inbetween before i touched it again just to force myself through the shit.
Theres is not a single redeeming thing about Deadmoney other than locking this fucker up.
The weapons suck, and the money isnt worth the effort.

The Ulysses DLC was amazing tho.
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>>340798382
>pronounces it wasabi instead of wes ide because apparently no one told the VA he lived in a placed called Westside
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>>340798442
Plus she gives you one of the best shotguns in the game. The Thorn could have been done much better and she could have been slightly less edgier but I liked it for what it was.
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>>340798442
The idea that killing off some of the deadliest creatures in New Vegas so you can fuck a redhead hunter pleases me
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>>340798502
Are you the same person baiting as the "F3 has a superior story" guy?
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>>340797829
>>340797864
>>340797882
>>340798187

Learn how to argue. Ignoring me or insulting me won't make New Vegas the better game.

>>340798125

For one, it actually has themes - coming of age, loss of innocence. New Vegas is just a flat, barren wasteland with little to no substance. "Collapse of civilization" is not a theme, it's an idea. And a very generic one at that.

Secondly, Fallout 3 actually invoked an emotional reaction in me (probably because of the family centric storyline). NV gave me nothing.
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>>340798818


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>nothing but Overwatch/E3 threads on /v/
>/vg/ is fucking awful
>suddenly, the last few weeks have blossomed into daily Morrowind and New Vegas threads
>they get derailed by shitposters

I can't win honestly. I'm going back to NMA, screw this.
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>>340798818
how the fuck is Fallout 3 about "loss of innocence"
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>in an early version of the game you could talk to the fiend bounty targets
>nephi is a chill dude who warns female players about cook cook
>violet is fucking insane and occasionally starts barking
>cook cook is exactly what you would expect

I wish they would have implemented this.
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>>340798535
>she could have been slightly less edgy
How was she edgy? She ran a pit fighting club where people fought dangerous animals for fame and money, she was considerably less edgy that she had any right to be
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>>340799058
The code is still there though, and there are lots of mod that adds that back into the game.
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>>340798818
God damnit people, don't reply. I thought this would be drilled into you by now.
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>NCR soldier at aerotech wants me to help him get rid of a con artist
>Con literally makes a wisecrack of him being a cuck
>Soldier shoots him in the fucking face
this game
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>>340799030
sexmods
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>>340798818
>Modifications make the gunplay way too fucking easy.
>Iron sights have no place in a modern FPS game.
>At least it has themes - coming of age, loss of innocence.
Wait a minute these arguments...
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Just played through all the DLC. Compared to the villains/personalities in the other DLC, Ulysses is weak as fuck. I can't believe how hard they fucked up a character built up that much.
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>>340799058
>Nephi
>chill
That's just shitty VA work. Violet and Cook-Cook are top tier, though, some of the best in the game from the generic NPC cast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSqpEWtmVdU
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>>340799168
that was some serious shit. I should have killed that guy but I was NCR at the time and then I forgot about it until now
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>>340799260
Cook-Cook is incredible, like a crazed Mr. T
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>>340799058
>tfw no fiend waifu
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>Mfw bethesdrones say the original fallout games are overrated just to shed 3 in a good light


kill me
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>>340799105
>implying lines like "Your blood hungers for glory and I'll placate its thirst" and "The Thorn requires a tribute of blood, and so do I" aren't edgy when said in that stoic haughty voice of her's

She's still hot as fug though
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>>340799260
Doesn't Motorrunner have a level head as well as Nephi? Maybe the reason they are leaders is because they are the most clear minded.
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>>340799380
>implying anyone is going to miss a smartassed con artist fleecing refugees and addicts

The NCR's military doesn't like being in the role of "peace-keeper". Crimes across the Mojave are typically punished by death.
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>>340799167
we should have it in the OP
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>>340799260
Violet shouldn't be getting my dick up like this
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>>340799260
Coock cook has become my favorite character after I learned of his cut dialogue.
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>>340799223
See other thread

>>340798894
>>340798930
>>340799167
Ignoring me won't make your game better.

>>340799030
Loss of innocence occurs when you leave the vault. The most pivotal moments in the entire game take place within the first 20 minutes.
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dead money was so good, somebody should make a game like it without the stupid shit like loading times being so long. like a first person serious sam hotline Miami survival horror
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>>340799530
that stoic voice is part of what I love. She's so detached from anything I do. I feel like she would beat the shit out of me and not care ugh plz fuck me Red Lucy
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>>340799764
Someone HAS to have those audio files of her different moans based on your SPECIAL stats saved somewhere. My dick demands it.
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>>340798768
Nah man, just dont like having to run through some fucking fog for 10 hours with my collar exploding every 5 metres.
Thats literally 90% of the DLC.
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>>340799559
>implying anyone's going to miss a triggerhappy coldblooded cuck with a gun way too big for his brains

yeah it does say that in a load screen or something, I forgot that too lmao (should go to sleep). when it happened I didn't know though. I guess it characterised the NCR occupation very effectively.
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Don't give him (You)s lad
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>>340799723
>Loss of innocence occurs when you leave the vault
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>>340799960
Yes, you're absolutely right. Thanks for reiterating.

>>340799930
Ignoring an argument won't make it go away. Explain why you dislike Fallout 3, I'm happy to hear you out.
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>>340799764
>tfw courting a stoic bloodthirsty underground fight club mistress with the eggs of lethal predators is more satisfying than pretty much any other video game romance
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>>340792598
>More characters in this picture than NPCs in the entire game.

Only problem with NV Tbh. New Vegas had like 12 NPCS on the street at any time including the 4 drunk assholes outside Gomorrah and the Securatrons. There was no "populated" part of the wasteland. I get that it was engine limitations, but still.
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>>340800116
WHY CAN'T YOU ACTUALLY ROMANCE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST FUCKING THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It's shit both ways. Bethesda gives me romance but no fucking sex and prostitutes and shit while Obsidian gives me sex and stuff but no romance.
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>>340799960
>Loss of innocence occurs when you leave the vault
no because the overseer wanted to get you before you leave the vault in 3
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>>340799260
>that Violet dialogue
Why did they cut all that anyway?
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>>340800075
this is sure to weed him out
what are you going to do for summer break anon? my cousin bought my friend a bunch of alcohol, do you want to come over and smoke some sometime?
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