More importantly than gameplay, which game has more charm and personality?
>>340763667
TF2
>which game has more charm and personality
They're equally lifeless.
>>340763667
Overwatch
>>340763667
Tf2
>>340763667
Clearly the spy,both games are shit.
>>340763667
Now? None.
Originally? TF2.
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
Please leave.
>>340763667
TF2 by far.
Overwatch cast is all over the place. Robots, Nathan Portans, Chinese Ninjas, Alien Snipers, Swedes
TF2 has a lovely cast of retarded mercs
>>340763667
Why does tracer have a tumblr nose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXglON1tgX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Gu0PSgq6s
You tell me
>>340763667
why would you compare tracer with the spy instead of the scout?
TF2 by far. I like Overwatch but TF2 is hilarious and charming.
Tf2
The scout has more personality on his jeers line than the whole OW cast.
>>340764062
this
TF2 = Bugs life
Overwatch = Antz
>>340763667
I like both in regards to both charm and gameplay, but Overwatch tries to take itself way too seriously. It has no real story or single player content (No, making shitty movies and posting fanfiction tier backstories on a site isn't part of the game) and I find most of it cringeworthy. In game, it's all pretty cool and just fun, but it still tries to make the characters something more than they are. In the end, the game is just a fun MP shooter. TF2 isn't guilty of this. Its characters are built just for being in a fun MP shooter, so it gets the nod.
>>340763667
TF2
>>340763667
I'd say Overwatch
>Overwatch: Waifu simulator
TF2
>>340764062
I miss everything about TF2 but I can't stand the fucking hat economy and furry autists that have made 80% of the servers 24/7 2fort
>>340764749
This is such a good analogy, like it's spot fucking on
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
>in a videogame
kys
TF2 = Crayola crayons
Overwatch = RoseArt crayons
>>340764749
Hey, I liked Antz
TF2, and I didn't even play it all that much, the horrendous community drove me right off, but it sure is fun.I play OW now
I like Overwatch but Valve games have this charm to them that no developer will ever replicate.
Both TF2 and Dota have great memorable characters, the writing and the banter between them makes the game feel so alive and cohesive.
I don't like Blizzard's style of humor at all.
>>340764062
>You'll never hit me, you'll never hit my tiny head
Blizzard couldn't write something this funny if they even tried
>>340764062
>Scout video is 15 minutes
>Tracer video is 50 seconds
We need a TF3. The hilarity of all the characters in TF2 made it so much more fun to play. Overwatch takes itself too seriously. We need a dedicated /v/ TF2 server that's pure vanilla.
>>340765881
>We
The "Meet the Team" videos are still hilarious, and I probably watched them a dozen times each when I was younger.
Blizzard can never compete in that regard. All they can do is make the gameplay good.
>>340765961
>Waz
Spy managed to fuck Scout's MLIF, Tracer's lesbian undertones can't compete against those skills.
>>340766107
QUEENS N SHIIEET
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE *SMACKS LIPS*
>>340763997
welcome to the 'diversity is strength' age.
TF2 has some of the most memorable and funny characters I've ever seen in a videogame
>>340763667
overwatch characters are all over the place.
One cowboy, one edgy assasin, one big robot from korea, one guy who is so huge he should not be able to walk, one monkey, one dwarf and one jamaican.
This is the defenition of "LEL SO RANDOM XD"
TF2 just has a bunch of mercs.
No one is over the top and just what they need to be.
>>340763667
Overwatch, no question
TF2 is the meme shit of its days
Overwatch is a bunch of cartoon cliches
TF2 is a bunch of ethnic stereotypes
The latter is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-86sw7GeMfc
I GOT A MANGY EYE
I'M A BLACK SCOTTISH CYCLOPS
THEY GOT MORE [CENSORED] THAN THEY GOT THE LIKES OF ME
>>340765664
pretty much the same with starcraft 2 and CoH2 in terms of voicec acting and unit banter. Relic blows SC2 out of the water so hard, its not even funny.
>Your white flag cannot stop American Bullets
I WANNA GO BACK WHY DID YOU FAGGOTS HAVE TO KILL TF2 WITH YOUR FURFAG SERVERS AND HAT TRADING ALL THE TIME
Overwatch's characters are designed by a commitee of marketing executives. They're a collection of random cliches and dollar-store knockoffs of popular characters to appeal to all demographics, that are a multicultural group of all faiths and creeds to appeal to all countries in the world, and with blandly inoffensive dialogue without any kind of vulgarity or insults to make sure they don't violate their PG rating for mild violence and comic mischief.
>>340763667
TF2, the voice lines seem better. Overwatch feels really robotic and unlifelike for some reason.
One game has a realistic despictions of australians
The other game has a newzealander pissing in jars
>>340765664
I don't like Blizzards style of writing in general.
Guess Metzen is still a huge influence even if he isn't directly responsible for it. The guys greatest feats of writing are muh corruption and boring middle aged people going through a midlife crisis.
Did he ever write anything genuinely funny?
Fucking hell.
>>340764062
the characters have lines beyond the unlockable quotes that are situational
I still wont defend Overwatch as it is not really trying to be funny at all
all the heroes are played pretty straight vs TF2 where everyone is kinda a charaicture/parody of themselves.
the scout voice actor is a huge nerdlike me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWjxdvTF65Q
>>340764062
>4:42
>Oh, hey, you shapeshifted into a dead guy
>mfw
>>340767113
The problem is Overwatch isn't really trying to be funny. It's trying to be serious. And taking itself way too serious for what it is. It's just a silly MP shooter, like TF2, but Metzen wants them to be all tragic superheroes with deep backstories and crap, even though there's no room at all for that in the game since there's no single player content at all.
Maybe it's because Overwatch was originally Titan and supposedly something else, like an MMO that probably had lore and quests and such. It just didn't carry over well. Heroes of the Storm actually has some top tier banter between its characters, and maybe that's because it was only ever just intended to be a simple MP game.
>>340767372
He did this a week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAbSLd9b4r8
>>340766771
GO PLAY YOUR PINKO CHESS GAME WITH THE DEVIL, COMMIE
YOU CANNOT BURN ME, I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO COMBUST
>>340767432
you can have a serious game and still have excellent banter. Company of Heroes 1 and 2 both have it.
Dawn of war had it.
Dawn of war 2 had it.
>inb4 relic fanboy
>>340766297
TF2 cast is from all over the world too, but at least they have a unifying art style, Overwatch characters are all too overdesigned and look like they're from a MOBA
>>340767432
>Overwatch isn't really trying to be funny. It's trying to be serious
Is literally trying both.
Is like one of the dreamworks shitty movies, one scene have the main villain killing a guy and the next scene is a ̶p̶a̶n̶d̶a monkey stuffing his mouth with food and acting retarded
OVerwatch made me realize how good TF2 is.
I hate the "TF2 was better when it was vanilla" fags
>>340767823
TF2 was better before the Uber update
>>340767931
If you find a good community server then it's really not that different (yes, community servers still exist)
>>340763667
Tf2 hands down
>>340763667
Overwatch is already more popular than TF2 on pop culture around the world. Fucking hell, I saw my cousin talking about it the other day (and we are on Perú atm.) Friends I have from Trinidad & Tobago/Rumania know the damn game, and they barely play videogames.
I'll say for sure that 10 years from now the cast of Overwatch will be super iconic and remembered by everyone all around the world. Their designs, personality and being people with different nations/being a Blizzard product will push this further and further.
Again, this is fucking Blizzard. Valve may had a chance one day, but that is over today. They just can't compete. Hell, is any Dota 2 character iconic enough to be on mainstream culture as much as WoW/Starcraft?
It helped a lot that the best and only good artist from Udon made the characters of Overwatch. They feel like Capcom characters, they could easily be a cast on a golden age fighting game. Hell, this is the greatest compliment anyone can give. You can say whatever you want about them, but Capcom were literally The GODS of videogame art and illustration.
I don't understand the 'tf2 was better before x' meme. I just jump in a server, play a few rounds and have fun
>>340768234
el peruANO.....
>>340763667
TF2 story-wise.
Overwatch design-wise.
>>340768234
Overwatch will never be "iconic". Never. The characters are so forgettable.
>>340765195
This man gets it.
This is exactly why I was so excited about OW and have been playing the shit out of it. I love TF2 but I can't fucking stand what it turned into. OW isn't a perfect replacement but it does scratch the itch.
>>340768249
>Overwatch design-wise.
Explain.
>>340763667
Tf2 because it's had a decade to make a name for itself
If we could see into the future to look at overwatch a decade from now, this would be a good thread
>>340768437
meant for
>>340768369
>>340763667
Overwatch. It's way easier to connect with the characters. Not to mention they have a personality that isn't just mindless babbling autism.
>>340768234
lol ya ok
lots of shit is popular now but shallow. Overwatch isn't the first of it's kind. It'll be popular for a while, but it won't be considered a classic and will last as long as blizzard pours their endless supply of money into it.
none of the characters will be remembered outside of the nostalgia teenagers have playing it now.
>>340766407
>Lucio
>Jamaican
Lucio is from Brazil.
>>340768529
I agree, I connect really well with Winston because I'm also a space gorilla with glasses
>>340763667
Spy kills people without dying in one shot and has more style while Tracer is a slower scout with a short range primary and no backup weapon
Why would anyone pick Tracer over Spy besides
>muh waffle
TF2 no doubt, look how much content their community was able to make thanks to it, now look at Overwatch in the following months (porn is good but thats just it).
Describe the Engineer's personality.
Describe Torbjorn's personality.
>>340768683
Cocaine logic, dumbass.
>>340768529
I can really relate to Reaper. You don't want to get on my dark side.
>>340768234
its popular BECAUSE blizzard spent forever marketing it. The in game interactions are shallow as a puddle compared to TF2.
>>340763667
Tf2 easily.
"Scotland is not a real country, you are an englishman wearing a dress". Soldier 2k16
>>340764062
>you fat, bald, fatty fat...fat fat!
God dammit I love TF2
>>340763667
Overwatch I guess.
>>340763667
tf2 without any fucking doubt
overwatch is new, fresh, prettier but get completely BTFO if you compare with the personality and voice acting of tf2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOefU1Lg68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvOJHpPjdyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCLpO-uNtPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-86sw7GeMfc
How can overwatch even compete?
>>340768927
Yeah because hats are less shallow than skins.
>>340768529
They don't even have quarter the voicelines TF2 characters have. And yet they have more character?
Lmao please bitch, I've been playing the game since closed open and now full release and you're just spouting shit.
>>340763667
TF2 desu senpai
>>340769024
What does this post even mean
>>340768529
Zarya is literally me.
>>340769174
LONDON
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>>340768437
TF2's art design is fine and definitely more consistent, egregious amount of hats aside.
But I'm quite fond of most of Overwatch's diverse and colorful designs and how they play up to the unique powers and skill-sets of each character. Even if a few are hit-and-miss.
>>340763667
It's TF2.
The problem with Overwatch is that Blizzard's writers are just so fucking horrible and lazy these days. All of the heroes have terribly bland and cliche lines as well as horrible one-note trope personalities.
Valve when it created TF2 was at the height of its writing and creativity. The lines are all top humor, the characters unique and likable.
Most of all they all blend together. Overwatch tries so hard to cater to everyone that the heroes end up looking as if they'd all been pulled from different games and slapped into one. And not in the good 'Smash Brothers' way.
Hell, Dota 2 has like, 111 heroes now? And every single one of them have more unique/stronger characters than those in Overwatch.
>>340769093
Your retarded faggot. All of tf2's voice acting is just screaming autistic bullshit. At least in Overwatch there's actual lines.
TF2 was at least somewhat original with their cast.
Overwatch is literally TV-tropes the game, it's like Blizzard just hit the random button on that site and made the most generic characters they could think of, kind of like the FF7 cast.
>>340769441
Nice meme
>>340769275
Said literally, so around Russia would be the answer.
>>340763667
It's hard for me to stomach the safe American family friendly vibe I get from Overwatch
>>340765505
I don't think he's saying overwatch is bad. Just not as good as TF2
For better or for worse, the designs in Overwatch feel less organic. They give the perception that the process went along the lines of:
>TF2
>Hey you know what would be cool and hilarious? A drunk black Scotsman that loves explosions - with only one eye
>Overwatch
>What would easily appeal to X audiences? Ummmmm, okay how about a big Russian lady with pink hair or an ambiguously chubby Chinese girl
With that said I still like a lot of OW's character designs, they just feel have a vibe of being more calculated.
>more importantly than gameplay
"No"
>>340769441
Hilarous.
>>340763667
The one that's nearly a decade old.
TF2 has better design than Overwatch, the 9 classes still make me laugh once in a while.
>>340763667
Overwatch has characters like Zenyetta and Reinhardt that are cool as fuck but on the whole TF2 has much more personality.
TF2 before the influx of cosmetics ruined the art style, is probably the most "personality" filled game of all time. Also some of the best writing ever.
>>340764749
Spot on
>>340769441
have a (you)
Its no contest, TF2. Both gameplay quality and overall charm and personality. Overwatch characters are almost a little sterile, almost too pretty!
But its an old ass game and Overwatch is shiny any new so ill be playing that
>>340768529
This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. There is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It's me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. This character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you'd see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say "Yup, that's me". I can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I'm assured everyday this character is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I've found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. It's really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it's almost like we're identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? Did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?
I haven't played TF2 for some time, but played hundreds of hours of it on release and for some years after. Listening to some of those class quote videos and I still laugh at some of the lines.
I've played probably close to 100 hours of Overwatch from beta and release and haven't laughed once.
Tf2's character all work and are connected by one consistent artstyle (hats not included of course)
Overwatch's characters just don't fit together, and are way more forgettable and shallow
>>340768317
Am I missing something? There are literally dozens of "gentilicios" that end on "ano".
>>340768406
Well, this is just your opinion mate, I can clearly see you hate it for some weird reason. As an artist in training myself, I love them, they are really clean.
>>340768535
Again, another opinion. Woah, do you usually hate things that are popular? Btw, nostalgia teenagers are usually the main people behind the TF2 crowd around here.
>>340768927
Well, yeah, Overwatch was actually shown in movie theathers, sponsored by fucking Coca Cola and went on to have real life size figures on different parts of the globe.
Hell, even the fucking Manchester United want to buy teams to compete on Esports.
Overwatch is already huge, unlike the poor attempts at being an iconic shooter of the last years (Destiny, etc) Blizzard struck gold. This is it, is the game to be remembered. You KNOW it on the back of your head. Why is so hard to accept?
>>340767058
Who pisses in a jar in Overwatch?
>>340769835
Thanks for the 3rd (you). Here's yours.
Overwatch right now. TF2 before the cosmetics holocaust.
TF2 was a gaming masterpiece when it came out. I thought I was gonna play it for the rest of my life in like 2008-2012 range.
I played like 40 hours of Overwatch and I'm already bored. The worst part is how many design decisions lifted straight from TF2 and they still blew it.
>>340770012
>This is it, is the game to be remembered.
nice opinion
>>340769915
Tl;Dr faggot.
Tf2 has alot more voice lines with them throwing shit at each other which was pretty good.
Hearing so few voice lines, while understandabld between 21 characters, it gets old quick. Reaaaaally quick.
Then cohesion. Tf2 dudes look like they're from the same planet. Guys at overwatch look like freaks from other dimensions, akin to a moba.
And then tf2 doesn'ttake itself too seriously, just hearing merasmus and soldier spewing shit and each other then saying they'll meet back home is hilarious. Hearing mei and tracer circlejerking each other is cringy as fuck.
>>340767058
the sniper isn't Australian read the fucking comics
>>340770104
>TF2 before the cosmetics holocaust.
>I hate hats but love Overwatch's lore-compatible skins
???
>>340763667
GO TO /vg/ YOU SPAMMING OVERSHITS
Low skill garbage players and tumblr
>>340769339
Right, various texures of shit are better than just one
>>340770209
I think the confused one here is you, he's talking abiut junkrat and roadhog
>>340770239
This is hilarious to me considering all the butthurt about that one JRPG that had a native american costume in it
It really is okay when Blizzard does it.
>>340764062
>Where's your precious hippo crates now?
Every time
>>340770209
Then why does he scream like an Australian?
>>340769018
>here's what I have that you don't, a functioning liver, depth perception, and a pulse!
>>340770134
Tons of characters of all nations with great personality behind their animations and voices. Is a fucking FPS, million dollars cinematics, huge company behind known for supporting their games for literally decades. Born in the boom of twitch and streamers. Designed by some of the best artists/designers on the west. Gameplay first as a fucking goldplate on the center of Blizzard HQ. Compared to mobas, being a FPS, the most popular genre of games in the world.
It have it all mate, it isn't only an opinion.
>>340769018
>tf2 having personality and voice acting
Screaming and autism isn't voice acting.
>>340770415
>As long as nothing supernatural happens this should be easy
Something supernatural happens
>Why do we get assignments like this in this time of the year?
Always gets me how spy is self aware of this
>>340770012
>Hell, even the fucking Manchester United want to buy teams to compete on Esports.
its because e-sports are insanely profitable compared to traditional sports in terms of investments you subhuman latin american retard. Medical costs are far lower. Insurance is far lower. Broadcasting it doesn't have you negotiate huge contracts, and you have a gigantic fanbase.
Yet the games that became eSports were organic in nature. SC:BW became an Esport because there were many young koreans who were laid off and were sitting at home waiting for a job. DoTA became an Esport because it is a free game that had a great run on battlenet for years before valve picked it up.
Overwatch is not that entertaining to watch by comparison.
>>340770493
tf2 has lasted a decade and still has tens of thousands of players consistently. Overwatch will be dead within the next few years.
>>340764062
>>340769018
How can you actually find this funny?
It's literally bazinga tier humor
>>340764062
>Real nice effort Deutsch-bag
One thing that I always loved was how they named the items. Killing gloves of boxing. Seems like a usual name and another usual item on heavy. Read it's acronym. Killing gloves of boxing = KGB (Russians secret police)
>>340770679
Because it never takes itself seriously, they're spewing shit while killing dudes and sometimes making clever puns.
I haven't heard a good joke in overwatch at all, if any, from the characters.
Overwatch is super low skill compared to TF2.
Overwatch has insanely unbalanced offensive classes that are always useful and has "hella Fr*ickin epic" ultimate abilities.
Right now there is no reason not to have a McCree, Mercy, Widowmaker on every team competitively. In pubs offensive classes dominate and are the primary ones played besides the snipers. No one wants to play boring Hold Shield man. No one wants to play Buddhist Robot man. No one wants to play pointless Shield poo in loo.
Half the cast in overwatch is pointless
>>340770679
Better than overwatch "humor" at least
>>340770493
people put the same argument for HoTS. Established and beloved characters from blizzard IPs duking it out, and look at it now.
>>340763825
This. Both are soulless cashgrabs.
TF2 has better comics.
New comic fucking never, though.
>>340770239
You really cant figure this one out by yourself? Having six, head-to-toe character skins specifically designed for each hero is a lot different than the cosmetic holocaust that anon referred to, in which valve just pumped out tons of fucking random clothing items that could be equipped to everyone.
It wasnt an awful idea, but its a bit like putting too many toppings on a bowl of icecream. After awhile is just like thats enough sprinkles dude the ice cream already is double fudge brownie
>>340770580
Should we all put on fake Cockney accents like your precious tracer? kys
>>340770679
trash talking is never subtle.
>>340768408
>>340765195
TF2 is still the exact same game, you've just fallen victim to shitposts
>>340770493
What the hell? Is this a real life shill?
>>340770957
>inb4 hats killed the game for me
>>340763667
overwatch easily..i played tf2 on release..the artstyle makes me aggresive...its like 5 teemos on a map
>>340770353
>all the butthurt about that one JRPG that had a native american costume in it
But the butthurt was because the native american costume was censored for a cowboy
>>340770679
>kill a man with a baseball bat
> "say goodbye to your kneecaps chucklehead" plays through your speakers
Its pretty funny desu you must just not have any lads to play with. Did you not play TF2 on release?
>>340770812
>I haven't heard a good joke in overwatch at all, if any, from the characters.
I haven't heard any good joke in CS:GO either, that means jack shit.
Either way, hearing "DIE DIE DIE" is way funnier than any le ebin TF2 pun
>>340770580
Because you're gonna be all nice like tracer, lucio and mei or civil like symmetra in the heat of battle. Fuck off
Only reinhardt screams like a madman
>>340770904
Mad faggot? You should be because that fake accent is better than fart noises.
>>340764062
Scout is the key to TF2. Because he's a funnier character than we've ever had in any of the Valve games before.
>>340769425
I do agree about the dota 2 characters having great design and voice lines. But to be fair, we can't really give all the praise to valve for that. All the current characters are pasted from dota 1, so i would say that the rework of the heroes are good but it is not created from the ground up.
>>340770887
Everywhere else you go everyone loves the hats in TF2. They sell for hundreds of dollars.
On no fun allowed /v/ somehow cosmetics (released by the company so they could make money from their FREE game) effected a game's stellar gameplay
>>340770630
what? Why did you think that "explaining" why they are doing it diminish in any way or form that finally the huge "real" sport companies are finally betting on e-sports AND on this videogame? You could apply the same kind of though to literally everything. AND hell, why isn't the fucking Manchester United buying TF2 teams atm?
Overwatch may not be entertaining to watch TO YOU. Why do you think you can place yourself on my head (or anyone) and know whether or not they are having fun? They already are big on twitch.
>>340770648
And this is based on?
>>340770854
HotS is a shame. It came out late and not worked nearly as much as Overwatch. Let's see how it does now that the SC2 team finally moved on to it 100% with 150+ people on it.
>>340771000
I wish. I fucking need money to pay my bills ; _ ;
>play as genji
>see voice lines
>no "B-baka"
Fucking Dropped.
>>340771193
Cs: GO is just a generic shooter with generic characters, it's more about the gameplay, tf2 is more about everything else
Overwatch takes itself way too seriously, half the characters are edgelords, in a game where chatacters are animated to make you think they're brought to live.
Not my fault your a hollow shell on the inside
>>340763667
Oh TF2 without a doubt. The thing about Overwatch is that it's heavily constrained by its T rating, so all the dialogue lacks any sort of edge. Not only that, but they also hesitate to include anything at all that could even be construed as mean-spirited. It desperately wants to capture that family-friendly, scrubbed clean pixar feel, except that kind of philosophy clashes with a competitive FPS game where you murder everyone.
TF2 on the other hand, goes in the polar opposite direction. It manages to be bombastically violent and crude in a way that fits the gameplay, while still being charming. The characters' personalities all have that slight hint of insanity that makes it feel in character when they go on mass killing sprees. Seriously, just listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM and imagine any of the Overwatch characters saying anything even remotely similar.
One other thing that really bugs me about Overwatch is how "pandery" all the characters feel. Like they were manufactured specifically to appeal to certain demographics.
>>340771229
Yes, some of the visual design is copy and pasted, but there are a lot of completely remade visual and audio gems.
>>340771197
Actiblizz games have no soul
Blizzard has no idea how to balence a shooter there will always be entirely useless classes like symmatra. Enjoy McCree/WidowWatch
>>340771195
Yeah because both these shooters are laid back and causal. I would rather hear decent voice acting instead of HAAAAATS.
>>340771446
>Overwatch takes itself way too seriously
It literally doesn't. All characters are meme characters but that doesn't mean they need to have 500 different epic puns so that 10 year olds will find the gam entertaining
>"Scotland is not a real country! You are an Englishman wearing a dress!"
That one quote alone has better writing than all voice lines in Overwatch combined.
>>340771361
>And this is based on?
Steamcharts you fucking retard. A real life fucking shill.
>>340771193
SNEAKY-BEAKY-LIKE
>>340771482
>no soul
see, I think overwatch pales in comparison to TF2, but 'soul' is not an argument
>>340771361
Its because esports in general is becoming more mainstream you moron. They even opened a dota 2 championship in my country and people here barely have an internet connection that they can use to browse facebook.
>>340771497
>Decent voice acting
>Overwatch
Not really, no
I'LL SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO YOUR KANGAROO WIFE
>>340771595
Mah nigga. That and spy's "You died as you lived: morbidly obese!"
>>340770648
Steam charts literally told you that in the future Overwatch will be dead? Look at the fucking idiot not even thinking without replying.
>>340771720
So yeah, once more, born in the BOOM of e-sports. It have everything aligned to be played for decades. Mark my words anon.
>>340771482
>useless classes like symmatra
Kill yourself
Its weird. Blizzard used to have excellent Voice acting even when they were a minnow of a company, but now their dialogs are pretty bad.
>>340771193
ez pz lemon squeezy
bingo bango bongo bish bash bosh
>>340767672
DoW wasnt really funny, just cool
CoH was funny because real soldiers have funny bantz
>>340771897
meant to:
>>340771601
>>340771450
>here lies scout. He ran fast, and died a virgin.
>>340763997
I couldn't quite put my finger on it about why I thought TF2 had more personality but I think this is spot on
>>340771037they only hate the hats because theirs were shit :^)
The Black Scottish Cyclops.. now extinct!
>>340771975
either way, their voice acting stayed with you.
A scared tankbuster infantry screaming
>"Panzerschreck, time to unpimp his ride!"
at the top of his lungs will always be better than
>JIM RAYNOR, I BRING TIDINGS OF DOOOM
>>340764761
Yeah I see what you mean. I don't think that many are cringe worthy, I personally just think most are underwhelming/plain and just a couple are actually a little interesting
>>340771997
I'm not saying that overwatch will be dead within a couple years. That anon asked for a source on tf2's playerbase.
>>340772152
HEAVY PANZER UNDER INFANTRY ATTACK
WHY I AM SCREAMING THIS?
>boring middle aged white men trying to be le funny
or
>hero with actual background and personalities
oh i wonder
>>340764062
TF2's Mercs have enough personality and charm to make me chuckle like an idiot for 5 minutes.
But the game did a great job of ruining itself.
Overwatch needs more interaction between heroes, especially in the middle of battle. There's not enough voice lines to keep the characters active and engaged with each other.
TF2 is good when you're still in that retarded phase. Overwatch has no personality but it is playable when you're an adult. TF2 is not.
It's like shitty deadpool cosplayers at conventions.
>>340770957
Diablo style weapons make it the same game?
>>340768754
The Engineer is a pragmatic and collected person who doesn't let himself be disturbed or distracted by the bad things on the battlefield. He's the undisputed best in his field, perfectly executing his marvelous designs, yet at the same time there is some sort of carelessness surrouding him. It's probably the texan blood. He will sit down besides his turrets and play on his guitar a little, mostly because he knows, he doesn't have to fire a single shot himself in order to win.
Torbjörn is an older man with a passion for building things, waiting for all the pieces to come together to give physical form to the things he has in his mind. He has a more simple stance towards engineering, cartoonishly beating his turrets with a hammer to level them up and such. He uses older, more simple methods, and he doesn't like newer things. For him, building things is not an art, (looking at you symmetra) but hard work. But as he says, hard work pays off.
>>340772227
People kind of forget TF2 got a lot of voice lines over the years.
At release it didnt have that much
>>340769915
>>340769174
>>340768628
>>340768886
so this is how dumb tf2 players are
You know what you and Jane Austen have in common? You're both dead women.
>>340764062
Are there any good vanilla/no unlock servers? Every time I fire up the game and see everyone in fluorescent pink hats and gold chains I want to punch the screen.
>>340772206
I AM that anon and I didn't ask for TF2 playerbase, you moron, I asked how you can fucking foresee the future. Get own idiot. Go to jail already.
>>340766967
THIS.
I AM DRUNK, YOU DONT HAVE AN EXCUSE
>>340772216
Break down the background/personality of ANY of the characters in OW. ANY of them.
>>340772402
How the fuck can you connect with overwatch's characters? You a gun slinging cowboy anon?
>>340772437
Use the no-hats mod if hats bother you so much.
>>340763667
TF2 without a doubt, and this is coming from someone who is having a ton of fun with overwatch.
Its a fresh take on that type of game which makes it fun to me, but TF2 has alot more charm imo.
>>340772214
>Heavy german tank knocks out a su 76
>"Thats why they call it a little bitch"
thats too funny.
and yet when your brave conscripts yell out "there are no cowards here", you kinda want those guys to get back to their slavic shithole homes safe and sound.
None of this matters.
>Which game has a dev team
Overwatch
Tadaaah
>>340772381
>tfw Valve forgot to apply their filters to the pyro halloween lines and he sounded like a guy talking into a cup for months
>>340772504
stop posting anon
>>340772491
Name any.
>>340772670
So you don't the characters in Overwatch. Hilarious.
>>340772441
For a fps to stand the test of time it need's to have mods and community servers. After a while blowing shit up get's old. And ofc blizzard being the jews they are cant even allow two of these basic things. Quake, CS:GO all have them.
>>340771897
overwatch won't be played for as long because
>its is not f2p
>it is too early to tell whether or not it's esports scene will stick.
Once something flashier comes out, it will attract more people. Personally, I hope it's lawbreakers, because that game looks pretty old school arena shooter typey.
>>340771975
IF A MOUSE FARTS IN THIS GOD DAMN MINEFIELD I WANT ITS ASS BLOWN SKY HIGH
>>340771262
Youre either dumb or dense as fuck
Just because something is tacky doesn't mean people arent going to buy it simply to use it for status. Even if people dont like the cosmetics, the fact is there in the game so even people that might not care much for them would most likely feel compelled to use the feature after playing for some time.
No it doesnt affect gameplay but it sure looks ugly and undoes a lot of the hard work that went into the game's charm in my opinion.
Although I dont know if going as rigid as only offering six complete makeovers behind paywalls is the way to go either. CSGO hasnt seemed to fuck up their aesthetics overall via their cosmetic implementation, unless youre watching a twitch stream
>>340772580
Oh dear... Is this your first Blizzard game?
>>340772504
Not him, but yeah. I compete in fast draw competitions. You should try it. Loads of fun, unlike brony fortress 2.
How many interesting abilities and mechanics do the characters in TF2 have?
Or is puns and hats all that matters to TF2-players?
>>340772348
>exact same length
>>340772743
anon, its a rhetorical question.
>>340772580
>No patch in 3 weeks
Tf2 would've shat more than 5 patches already. So much for a dev team huh
>>340772761
>esports
>twenty tick servers and auto-aim
Someone link all the auto-aim videos. We just had a big thread yesterday and some anons must have saved them
>>340772863
>Overwatch
>interesting abilities and mechanics
>>340769584
Think he's actually saying they're both good, not that one is inherently better.
>>340772743
I'm asking you to pick whoever you want a breakdown of.
>>340772743
*don't know.
>>340772871
It's not even shilling, you're just legitimately, actually retarded at this point.
>>340772786
Riflemen said profound things though
>Stay by me and I will keep you alive
>I have seen enough killing to last me 10 lifetimes.
>>340772572
>I told my mother we saw panthers, elephants and tigers, she through i was in the Moscow zoo
some are kinda silly but they still bring a smile to my face
>>340772823
You would have known that you can easily disable hats if you google search. TF2 is customizable. Don't like something? You can fucking change it
Considering there's a 9 year gap between TF2 and Overwatch comparing these two games is like comparing TF2 to Half-Life. The original one.
People having this discussion is a testament to how well TF2 has held up.
>>340773009
conscripts are adorable desu.
So are ostruppen.
>I suppose you need cannon fodder!
shouldn't have picked the wrong side to join you hohol :^)
>>340772973
I am not even that person. Overwatch characters sound like something someone wrote up for their first pathfinder campaign.
>>340772749
Anon, all that Blizzard needs to do is this little thing: "expansion". There, Coca Cola advertisement and more cinematics on theaters AGAIN. First page on /v for months all over again.
>>340772761
Not a single shooter on the last 5 years come close to Overwatch popularity as a NEW IP. Just on the first week it sold more than 7 million copies. More than Diablo 3.
>>340772216
I'm detecting some high levels of sjw residue
>>340770012
>Am I missing something?
It's a meme from /int/, ignore it
>>340772876
Don't forget the summer patch that's coming in a few weeks. It's hyped up as even bigger than the f2p update. Matchmaking for a first
>>340772985
Watch it Hermut, theyre scratching our paintjob
Proud nazi laughs*
>>340773229
post yfw you found out those sodas gave you health
>>340772970
So you don't actually know anybody.
Let ME break it down to you:
I give you ONE VERY SIMPLE THING to do: break down a character in Overwatch of YOUR choosing
But you, instead of doing so, you ask me the character because of one of two possible reasons:
You are actually an imbecile
You want me to name you a character you will then search on Google so you can grab information from other places instead of providing it yourself
If OW characters were how you say they are you wouldn't need such tactics.
>>340764062
>"today ain't your day, pancakes."
>>340772338
More or less, but the last couple campaign updates did a good job of turning most of the +/-stat weapons into viable sidegrades.
Stock is still king for most classes.
>>340773246
>Anon, all that Blizzard needs to do is this little thing: expansion.
Which cost money to buy. You can make anything for free in tf2 and distribute it. You know I can bet that's why they didn't add this at launch. A $60 expansion is coming
>>340773397
WHAT?
H
A
T
?
TF2 for originality
Overwatch while fun is quite derivative. The story is just Animatrix's Second Renaissance meets Watchmen.
>>340773361
and yet, when they are fighting at low health
>HIT ZEM, WE STILL HAVE SHELLS
>WE WILL TAKE THEM WITH US
no little kitteh, go back so that the pioneers can repair you, you must yet live.
Sc2 cannot even compete in terms of sound quality or campaign gameplay.
>>340773491
Literal sperg.
>>340764062
"Heres a schematic for ya....my ass!"
fuckin great
>>340773229
or how high valve fans are up their own asses
might as well start complementing wow for being so fucking old yet people still play it and keep comparing it to everything
>>340773596
>The story is just Animatrix's Second Renaissance meets Watchmen.
...interesting comparison
>>340773545
you mean to say you never hit anything with crowbars?
What the fuck were you doing anon?
TF2 At its prime >>>> overwatch > current tf2
This thread confirmed my suspicions of /v/ having blizzard marketers.
>>340773729
Upset I caught on to you?
>>340773596
>videogames
>plots
>lore
Overwatch AT LEAST have something going on. I don't see anything at all on TF2.
But in any case:
http://www.theonion.com/article/7-year-old-unable-maintain-single-cohesive-storyli-53078
>>340764062
I really really miss TF2, lads.
>>340774325
just remember the good times and be happy anon. It gets easier that way.
>>340774275
>it have something going on
like what?
>>340766771
[shilling intensifies]
>>340774071
every fucking video game company under the sun shill here, m8.
>>340767603
i wish he still did skits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzAcfShmNsU
>>340773895
From animatrix
>The Machines eventually separated from humanity and founded a new city of their own: 01. Due to their technical prowess they took on most of the world's manufacturing business - 01's power rose massively, while humanity's began to drop like a stone. The Machines requested admission to the United Nations, presenting plans for a stable, civil relationship with the nations of man. Their admission was denied, and 01 was subjected to a prolonged barrage of nuclear weapons.
And from Watchmen
>When the story begins, the existence of Doctor Manhattan has given the U.S. a strategic advantage over the Soviet Union, which has increased tensions between the two nations. Eventually, superheroes grow unpopular among the police and the public, leading to the passage of legislation (the Keene Act) in 1977 to outlaw them.
if there is anything new Overwatch brought to the story its that somehow the machines which gained sentience also discovered spirituality and appreciation for nature.
I mean you can't be sentient if you haven't contemplated the meaning of the universe.
>>340763667
Holy fuck, reading at this thread.
YOU WILL NEVER BE 12/14 EVER AGAIN. No matter what, nothing will EVER compare to anything you liked as a kid.
You think "X" thing was better on "X" because of muh "X"? THINK AGAIN YOU PIECE OF TRASH. For "X" kid, "X" thing will forever be the greatest, and it will happen again, and again, and again.
TF2 was good. Overwatch is good. Everyone should be happy.
>>340772945
>In denial
>>340772953
I can see that.
>>340773962
This. If you didn't hit literally everything with the crowbae you weren't playing the game correctly
>>340774738
>tfw trying to open the blast doors with satchel charges
I am not the only one who did that, right?
>>340763667
>more personality
TF2
>best gameplay
TF2
>more fun
TF2
>>340774596
Animatrix was so good, too bad the wachowskis became hacks the moment they hack off their wieners.
> tfw no tf3 with an entirely new set of mercs set in comfy mediterranean europe instead of the dusty butthole of america
Ilios is the best looking map by the way prove me wrong
>>340763667
literally what could be more important than gameplay in a multiplayer shooter? summerfags need to go back
>>340775334
Its more important because we all know who has the best gameplay here
Are we seriously comparing a game that's had over 9 years to bloom with Overwatch, which literally just came out?
>>340774861
No I did too.
>>340775931
Welcome to summer. These threads are filled with nostalgiafags and deadpool tier memers
>>340775931
Most of what made TF2 good was there at release. Now we got fucking halloween costumes, dancing, and silly gimmick guns.
>>340764062
>tfw played TF2 religiously like 6-7 years ago
>then F2P killed the server I used to play in
I miss it
>>340771450
>This is not a camping trip, Sheila; This is WAR and I LOVE IT!
soldier's the best
>>340774980
i get genuinely emotional over how i miss tf2, shit was so good, part of my teen days are tied to tf2 autism, that game was just so much fun
when is any company going to make another fun, balanced and well-made shooter?
>>340775931
TF2 was better at release, it's literal garbage now
>>340763667
Tf2 has more charm imo. It has a fuck ton of memorable lines, characters, and scenes that went down in video game history and still does.
But Overwatch to me has more personality and lore to it unlike Tf2. Half the characters actually have some interesting backstories that grabbed the player/viewer's attention.
Despite how old Tf2 is, it still holds up to date. Can't deny that.
Tf2's cutscenes focused a bit much on humor at times, meanwhile Overwatch actually wanted to make its characters as well as its world interesting and feel alive.
They're both good in their own respective ways. Hell knowing how popular Overwatch has become since 2014, it'll end up just like Tf2. Except with a fuckload of porn.
>>340778225
>Overwatch actually wanted to make its characters as well as its world interesting and feel alive.
Wasn't OW the remains of a MMO?
>>340778732
Blizzard was trying to make their own WoW killer.
Turns out they couldn't do it and used the remains of Project Titan to make an arena shooter.
>>340779147
give it time, we might see 'World of Overwatch' in 5 years or so
>>340771829
thanks mate
>>340778225
>lore
nobody gives a shit
>>340778225
See >>340778225
There's no story or single player content at all. Just like TF2, it's a dumb, fun MP shooter. Tracer and fricking Widowmaker are fighting side by side for crying out loud, so it doesn't even make a lick of sense and seems completely removed, or even oppossed, to the actual game.
orange box tf2 > hats tf2 > overwatch with friends > f2p tf2 > overwatch alone
>>340782680
>including a game with friends
you mean the factor that instantly makes any game 10 times better?
>>340782792
yes, overwatch is a bad game
>>340764062
>If you order now, I throw in a second beatin', absolutely free!
>>340783336
>Look at this. Just caving his skull, my bat's still dry! No clumps of hair, nothing!
>>340763667
TF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiZDgxYYzfw
Pauling a cute.
Here lies Scout, he ran fast, and died a virgin.
>>340774596
>if there is anything new Overwatch brought to the story its that somehow the machines which gained sentience also discovered spirituality and appreciation for nature
>>340763667
TF2
>>340764062
>keep calm and tracer on
wow
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
Get out
Plenty of games with 'character' can be shit but if a game doesn't have good gameplay then what's the fucking point
>>340764062
>nitpicking videos
tf2 circlejerk: the thread
>>340786741
entertainment?
>>340787025
Find me a video with all of Tracer's lines.
>>340787118
How can you be entertained by a game without good gameplay? That's like watching a movie without a script
>>340765751
>That image
Sauce?
>Delusional sperg lords vs fotm blizzdrones
What a thread to behold!they're both garbage and not quality vidya
>>340787357
because there is more to a game than gameplay? Otherwise every game would just be coloured blocks on a textureless environment. Things like music and story can play a huge part in how much you enjoy a game and can make a game with mediocre gameplay enjoyable.
Look at Braid, a mediocre puzzle game with a beautiful artstyle and nice music
>>340774596
> if there is anything new Overwatch brought to the story its that somehow the machines which gained sentience also discovered spirituality and appreciation for nature.
bitches can't even magick
>>340787025
>>340787124
I'm still waiting for that video
>>340787435
t's obviously shadman
>>340774275
>Overwatch AT LEAST have something going on. I don't see anything at all on TF2.
TF2 has a fucking comic series, All Overwatch has is cinematic trailers
one game been out for 9 years and the other a few weeks. Not really fair to compare the two.
Does anybody else have no interest in playing overwatch?
Why would I want to play a shooter with moba characters?
Why did arena shooters have to die
>>340789580
Overwatch does have a comic series.
>>340789873
especially since one is clearly much better
>>340772863
Scout
-Double jumping
-Soda Popper jumping
-FoN jumping
-Bonk
-Sandman
-Clever
-Mad Milk
Soldier
-Rocket Jumping
-Backpacks
-Parachute
-Market Gardener
-Beggar's jumping
Pyro
-Airblast
-phlog
-Flare
-Axestiguisher
-Backburner
-Airblast + reserve shooter
-Detonator jumping
Demo
-Sticky jumping
-Sticky traps
-Double donk
-LnL
-Demoknight
-Sticky jumper
Engie
-Gunslinger
-Sentry Jumping
-Dispenser Jumping
-Rescue Ranger
-Widowmaker
-Frontier Justice
-Eureka Effect
-Short Circuit
Heavy
-Tomislav
-Fat scout
-KGB
Medic
-Crossbow
-Kritz
-Vax
-Quick-fix
-Ubersaw
Sniper
-Huntsman
-Jarate + bushwaka
-Classic
Spy
-Amby sniping
-Trickstab
-Cloak and dagger
-Dead ringer
I'd say tf2 classes have
>>340790176
delete this right now i'm serious
>>340764062
Those aren't all of Tracer's lines. Those are just lines you can manually do or whatever.
Either way, neither game is witty or clever and you're all fucking idiots.
>>340790176
DELETE THIS
>>340790439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg2Z0y2ZoB4
These aren't any better
>>340787694
>because there is more to a game than gameplay
Nothing more important though. An ugly game with good gameplay will flourish while a beautiful game with shitty gameplay will die
>>340790940
there are tonnes of games with shitty gameplay that get rave reviews and do really well commercially
>>340791315
Like overwatch?
>>340790921
Why does Tracer sound so fake to me
>>340771081
>On release
Take the nostalgia goggles off, gramps.
The one that's had a decade of supplemental writing and development.
>>340791389
because the voice actress doesn't have that accent in real life
Only like, 2-3 of Overwatch's characters even have a personality. All the comics and shorts have been bland as fuck too.
Blizzard has openly said they don't care about the character in relation to the game so it doesn't really matter anyway.
Gameplay is ok, needs some serious changes, but that's mostly expected in the first month of a game.
>>340790176
MOOOODDDDDSS
>>340770493
>To: [email protected]
>From: Bilzzard Entertainment
>$0.05 has been deposited in your account.
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
cease your current existence
The Pyro has more lines than all of OW combined and you can barely even understand what he's saying.
>>340763667
Overwatch has more charm, TF2 has way more personality.
Then again TF2 had 10 years to develop that personality and didn't have to stay within a T rating.
Overwatch is dripfeeding personality with random voicelines, videos, and comics.
It would still take years before it can approach the character that the TF2 cast had at launch.
>>340791923
This. Overwatch wins by a landslide.
>>340774596
>if there is anything new Overwatch brought to the story its that somehow the machines which gained sentience also discovered spirituality and appreciation for nature.
Literally every science fiction story with robot does that
>>340790883
>>340791664
>>340790297
I think I'm missing a joke here.
>>340792107
You're missing that he's samefagging hard.
>>340792235
Oh man, sorry I totally made a mistake. Thanks for posting that image so promptly to prevent me from looking like I was wrong!
<3 :)
>>340790176
NICE ONE ANON, NICE ONE.
>>340790176
Yeah but do those have cooldowns? No? Checkmate then, TF2fags.
>>340790176
>All of these are locked behind a pay wall
nice game you got there, goyboi
>>340790176
Trickstab isn't a mechanic, it's just people being tryhards. Otherwise spot on.
>>340792746
The entire game of Overwatch is locked behind a paywall
>>340792746
here's your (you)
>>340792746
What pay wall
>>340789873
Well, scouts voice lines are from 2007-2013 in that video, but even vanilla scout had a good 8-10 minutes of dialogue.
>>340792863
>wahhhh f2p ruined muh hat game
double standards much, valvedrone?
>>340792952
You're saying I can edit out two (You)s, take a screenshot, and post 27 seconds after your reply? You flatter me too much
>>340792746
The Game Isn't 60 Dollars Though, Get The Weps Are random drops, And Craftable too.
>>340792863
God DAMN.
>>340792575
Soda popper, bonk, sandman, cleaver, milk, all backpacks, all mediguns, jarate, and all spy cloaks do
just from that list, there's probably more
there's the bazarre bargain charge shot thing
>>340793046
>tf2 are one person
Nervous, are we?
>>340790176
Not to mention all of the different gamemodes that tf2 has, plus all of the custom shit made by the community
I really wish OW had more quotes. It's not like they don't have any shittalk, Tracer calls people wankers when she kills them, so they could push for some stuff.
TF2 domination quotes are a lot of fun.
>>340792746
>he can't pay 0.30$ minimum.
Moms credit card expired bud?
>>340790176
I've never seen a BTFOing this brutal
>>340768529
Dude. What? You are cancer.
>>340792575
Is There Limited Ammo? Does OW Have a Win Button? Checkmate then.
TF2's got more personality by a long shot, but Overwatch has its moments.
>Tracer in a gruff voice after killing Reaper: DEATH COOOMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knD6CqI3t04
We need more things like that.
Both of them are miles and miles and miles ahead of anything else like them, though.
>>340793597
Don't think we missed your fuckup anon.
>>340793672
Sure
Reported :)
tf2
>>340793672
>merely pretending to be retarded
>>340783336
SCAM WOW!!!
>>340793672
>can't refute
>"I-it was all according to keikaku!"
>>340770353
Phara's brown so the idiots who would complain wouldn't even realize she's Egyptian.
Overwatch is a fun game but it feels like it has Manufactured charm in the vain of dreamworks films
>>340793672
>>340763667
Overwatch for sure. TF2 is all nostagia now. Time to move on to new and better things.
>>340795426
Despite Valve being horrible at balance, they've never fucked up as bad as the HOL UP combo or almost all aspects of widowmaker
>>340763667
overwatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9J16su9oLg
>>340795597
The Sandman is pretty bad even after repeated nerfs.
>>340796180
The sandman is garbage now. It's only useful for the cleaver combo. I'll admit that full stun at a medium length was stupid, but now it's just kind of bad.
>>340763667
The last time I posted on a forum a total fucking faggot who was a regular used that Spy picture as an avatar. Now every time I see it I get a little tense, is this normal?
Defend this.
>>340797348
yea and dorado turns into this
so does route 66
and hollywood, to an extent
>>340797608
Compare it to this.
>>340797764
Gravel pit is one of the better maps in the game
>>340797348
>>340797764
The thing is, you're comparing desert outposts to futuristic cities.
>>340770580
>>340769018
Reminder that Heavy and Demoman are both voiced by the same guy
>>340797898
That's funny, 'cause Overwatch also does desert outposts better.
>>340763667
TF2
Overwatch looks made in a laboratory to "appeal", TF2 has more personal style.
>>340798096
Nah, I'd say it doesn't.
>>340797348
>Defend this
TF2 is almost 10 years older than Overwatch
Charm is good for first impressions.
Personality is good for longer interactions.
>>340797348
the level design behind all the OW maps is complete ass and the visuals wont stop that.
>>340764062
Go!amn felt so good hearing a rare voice taunt from a TF2 class. Any player in a small radius around you will hear it too...usually your opponent. So satisfying
>>340798174
Well, I'm glad you love plywood and sheet metal so much.
>>340798175
Art direction isn't handicapped by age.
>>340798389
No one on /v/ actually plays Battleborn, right? It's all just false-flagging, right?
>>340798412
>Well, I'm glad you love plywood and sheet metal so much.
because they're literally mining facilities and not "quirky" shit like overwatch
I like overwatch's gameplay a fair amount, but some of the stuff around it is kind of annoying.
sawmill and landfall are some of my favorite (official) tf2 maps because I really like the forest and "rainy" aesthetic
>>340798447
I personally love it. Attikus is best.
Charm, overwatch
Personality tf2
>>340790176
DELETE THIS
>>340764062
It's funny because the voice actor for Scout was playing Overwatch on Jerma985's stream the other day.
>>340798389
Yfw this is a clone of a clone
>>340763667
TF2
>>340798825
The game's (mostly) fine outside of some balance issues. It's just that 95% of the "character" of overwatch is boring.
Winston's one of the only actual characters with a good personality in the game.
Cosmetics never really bothered me that much in TF2, and I never associeted the community of game with furries. I don't get why overfags sperg out so much over hats
>>340798987
It's been the go-to "insult" for tf2 because none of them have actually played the game since 2008. Heaven forbid people try to criticize the actual game instead of cosmetics that can be turned off.
>>340798794
*broken mouse*
>>340798963
This.
>>340771193
Nigger they are sitting on a comedic goldmine. If a Mexican mariachi band started playing when reaper ulted in his guitar skin, i would die laughing every time
>>340768234
>all this color/variety/charm
kinda shows how shit capcom or hell the entire gaming industry is these days.
>>340792863
Call me old-fashioned but it's kinda like buying a game then
>>340798661
Haha, "quirky shit", like cities and a gas station. So zany!
Go suck off your brown and grey mess of bad layouts more. The argument is about whether or not TF2 has more "charm and personality" than Overwatch, and so far the only thing people have are a rare voice lines that may randomly occur once certain circumstances have been met in a match. OW shits on TF2 in terms of level designs, character designs, music, and obviously, game design.
oh but yeah, tf2 is better written, that's real important in a class-based online-only multiplayer team shooter
>>340799265
The original poster was bitching about a paywall.
>>340764749
f2p TF2 = Food Fight
>its a v sees two similar games but is only allowed to like one episode
>>340798963
>Winston's one of the only actual characters with a good personality in the game.
Really? When I played the beta I felt like all the characters were heavily "flanderized", like "Winston is a scientist, so all his lines are going to be based around that", or Phara, who was all about Justice, protect the weak, more justice, and so on. Like they all have ONE treat to their personality.
>we live in a time period where buying a game as a hobby is considered a paywall
>>340799335
>level designs
Anubis and Hanamura would like to have a word with you. The level designs are ok at best
>character designs
All of the characters are literally a single gimmick. Which isn't a necessarily bad thing but it's not deep character design.
>music
LOL Overwatch doesn't even have any music outside of the main theme (which is decent, I'll give you).
>game design
That's a super broad term, I don't even know what you mean int his context.
>>340799480
Which is why I think most of them are boring. I might be biased towards monkey though because his cinematic was actually good, andI think the monkey puns are funny when you hop and tickle people.
The most tastefully-done character in Overwatch is Soldier 76, ironically.
>>340797348
Visibility > graphics
>>340763667
>overwatch quickly becomes popular and exponentially better than hat fartshits 2 ever was
>fedora tipping contrarians show up to quickly run damage control and project insecurities
LMFAO
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
HAT FARTSHITS 2 SPERGS
BLOWN. THE. FUCK. OUT.
>>340764062
the writing for tf2 is awesome and the voice actors are top tier. nostalgia/10
>>340799594
Well shit dude, if 2 maps make all of Overwatch shitty, then what does that say for TF2 with its abundance of shitty official maps AND every god damn awful fan-made map?
release tf2.
But lets not pretend team fortress fags actually liked the aestethic.
Otherwise they wouldn't be all for hats and silly shit which ruined it.
The difference with overwatch is that it was designed like current tf2 and not turned into it for money.
>>340799335
>so far the only thing people have are a rare voice lines that may randomly occur once certain circumstances have been met in a match
It's certainly better than
>IT'S HIGH NOON WOAH THERE IT'S HIGH NOON WOAH THERE IT'S HIGH NOON WOAH THERE IT'S HIGH NOON WOAH THERE IT'S HIG- UUUGH
>>340799824
And it will be forgotten within a year or replaced by another Blizzard IP
>>340764062
I think scout>tracer but that's not a very fair comparison since video 2 was really only looking at self activated voice lines as opposed to her whole repertoire of situational lines as in the first video.
TF2 is great because they're all assholes, Overwatch has no bantz
>>340800119
Doesn't matter, in TF2 you can play any map you want on the fly since it actually has a server browser.
>>340798902
It's got enough variation to stand on its own imo.
>>340798412
>Art direction isn't handicapped by age.
It is actually.
>>340764062
Who the hell is Scary Hat?
>>340800119
Well fan maps have nothing to do with the map design of tf2, but ok.
What maps do you even think are bad in tf2? 2fort?
At least in tf2 you can choose what map you want to play on instead of
>Now travelling to Anubis. Prepare to attack
>Now travelling to Anubis. Prepare to attack
>Now travelling to Anubis. Prepare to attack
>>340772863
There is a TF2 equivalent for just about every ability in Overwatch.
>>340799480
I know nothing about Winston's lore but from everything he says in-game I feel like I know him more than any other character. He actually seems to have a character and not some generic one-note exmilitary shit.
>>340799594
It is too bad Overwatch doesnt have any music. I feel like they should've taken the Hollywood map theme and expanded on it for the game. It's heroic and over the top in a good way.
>>340800418
Those are voice lines for a halloween hat (which you can only wear on halloween mode), it's the same thing for the unicorn lines
>>340763667
The only "character" the TF2 guys have are all stuck in the videos. Once in game they are just whatever class they are.
>>340800297
There's some bantz, but they're severely toned down in frequency.
>>340800418
It's a hat from a few halloweens ago that had unique voice lines if you were wearing it.
iirc it was a halloween drop
>>340764062
This isn't accurate though, all the overwatch characters have a ton of contexual lines that only activate if you're in a certain map interacting with a certain opponent / ally / ability.
>TF2 is still relevant almost 10 years after it was released
How long do you think Overwatch will last?
>>340769441
>just screaming autistic bullshit
Like what?
>>340800785
It really depends on how long Blizzard will support it for I think
>>340800785
Heavily depends on support and if people give a shit.
Hearthstone seems to be doing ok, but HotS is dead.
I'm just wondering when the fuck the first patch is.
>>340800162
i would believe you except for the fact that this is the first new blizzard IP since fucking starcraft in 1998
this is also the only blizzard IP that fits this specific niche.
A friend of mine who works at Blizzard (in accounts and finance) says that their new philosophy is that they would like to have one IP per genre which is why warcraft 4 will never happen.
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
>>340800785
The only relevant part of TF2 is that people are now copying the fundamentals that made the game great, something which Valve has long forgotten.
>>340800785
>Update
It's still relevant because it's F2P so any HUEHUE or kid can play it. Today's TF2 is not the same as when the game first came in the Orange Box, especially in community.
>>340800482
humor me, what in TF2 is like the genji's slash dash.
>>340800983
>Today's TF2 is not the same as when the game first came in the Orange Box, especially in community.
Obviously. Right before the F2P update, it had around 10k players. Now it has around 50k players.
>>340800959
HotS was a bad idea from start to finish
>>340801087
It was.
You mean G-Mod vs Overwatch because thats not what TF2 actually looks like.
Most of the personality and character attributed to TF2 was more or less people fucking about with voice lines and awful G-Mod animations.
>>340764062
>all of scout's quotes
>only a few of tracer's manual lines
NOICE
>>340763667
Team Fortress 2 of course
>>340801058
I've seen people argue demoknight, but it's not a great match.
Even >>340800482 said "just about".
They just split Engi into 3 separate classes.
>>340801165
This was buried in the search bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg2Z0y2ZoB4
It doesn't sound any better
>>340771262
>(released by the company so they could make money from their FREE game)
But I paid full price for TF2
I can relax and play TF2.
For some reason I can never relax playing Overwatch. I always get too high strung and have to quit after a while.
I have no idea why.
>>340763667
TF2 is infinitely better.
Overwatch is scatterbrained and takes itself way too seriously. In addition, its writing is simply shit.
TF2 characters all have a consistent theme and look while still having variety in their personalities and origins. Additionally, the shorts and dialogue are genuinely well-made and funny and have far superior writing than the wannabe pixar shit of Overwatch.
OW does have some god damn fat asses going for it though. But you just need SFM for that ironically enough.
>>340801078
quantity =/= quality, and the community's quality dropped significantly when it went F2P
Well TF2 atm but TF2 has had almost 9 years to world build and fleshout each of the characters personalities so you really shouldn't compare the two.
>>340791389
>>340791623
i don't know how people can stand it
it's fucking terrible sounding
>>340801253
>Heroes of the storm quotes
Still no, your comparison is complete shit and you need to leave
>>340800162
gabe newell jock strap sniffer detected
sounds like this idiot is experiencing a serious bout of impotent rage right now
pic related: it's you lmao
Why are TF2 fags so massively butthurt about Overwatch?
Nobody is forcing you to play OW. Just play your game and let the rest of the world fap to those wonderful girls.
>>340769441
>>340769425
Considering these two post sum up 90% of what I have seen in this post (Well written discussion about TF2 and Overwatch VS Overwatch Autist babble) I think we know the winner.
I guess what I really don't get is that Overwatch has these goofy looking cartoony characters, but there's little to no attempt at humor and all the animated videos have serious tones. Not to mention there's lore and a plot that aren't even a part of the main game. They set up a big world just so they could tear the characters out and make a shooty game
>>340801332
Find me a video with all of Tracer's voice lines in Overwatch then
>>340801410
I'm not the one trying to compare them, nigga.
>>340763667
TF2 for now, give it a year and OW might have more meat on it.
>>340801403
F2P
Looking into this thread, I never thought /vee/ had this shit taste before supporting the epileptic barf and "charm" that is Overwatch
>>340801370
Blizzard games age like shit...you know i'm right
>>340801261
They forced overwatch into being inherently more competitive. It's 6v6 or nothing, if one guy on your team is fucking around congrats you might as well just completely lose.
(Vanilla) TF2 goes from anywhere to a couple people to 12v12, and a single sniper or spy doing fuck all is a lot less of a damper to the entire group than in overwatch
>>340801706
>diablo, starcraft and warcraft have all been consistently successful since the late 90s
>but.. muh age...
typical gabe newell fart huffer everybody!
>>340801643
Those are called "colors", son. It'll take some time to adjust after playing something so boring and lifeless like TF2, but I swear that one day, modern science will fix those stupid eyes that the lord gave you.
Ults killed any potential the game had for a real skill ceiling. It doesn't matter how good you are if the enemy has their Win button ready
>>340801261
Hopefully they will release player run servers soon
>>340801943
You can stop some of the win buttons.
They really need to change how mercy's ult works.
Or at the very least make her lose some charge when she dies.
Will quick play be more casual once ranked is a thing? I want to have a dick around mode without having to feel bad about fucking over my team (or them getting salty)
>>340800119
even tf2's shittiest maps are way more playable than ow's crap. if you manage to be worse than dustbowl by replicating a fucking choke point with maybe a single alternate route (at least half of ow's maps) you should stick to making shitty mmos.
>>340801943
Everyone has a win button, so what happens when everyone pushes their win button? Yeah.
>>340802113
There's really nothing they can do to her ult. Adding a cast time makes it worthless shit, they already tried something similar to that.
>>340773397
I WILL GET MY HAMMER
>>340802353
>Adding a cast time makes it worthless shit, they already tried something similar to that.
Well then make it so that they don't come back at full health and are invulnerable for 3 seconds.
>>340778225
>But Overwatch to me has more personality and lore to it unlike Tf2.
>>340802229
I hope they have a solo ranked queue as well as teams. Maybe group couples with other couples, trios with and against other trios, sixers against sixers. I want a mode to test my skill on an even playing field.
>>340801862
Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are complete shit now.
Thanks post-activision blizzard!
And don't bother bringing up sales, there is 0 correlation between sales and quality with the marketing driven modern video game market.
>>340786448
Oh fuck, why did you have to point that out......
>>340802478
the idea is that they come back fully; ults are supposed to be OP.
>>340802353
that doesn't balance it. people just take turns pressing their win button.
>>340802667
then either buff all the others or nerf hers
>>340778225
>more personality and lore
I beg to differ. TF2 had a lore that was told quite subtly through its maps. Logos and out of the way areas were added throughout the game's lifespan and once the players caught onto them, an ARG was launched by Valve, the solving of which triggered the release of more comics and cinematic that gave insight into the backgrounds of the characters and why they were all fighting each other endlessly. Not only that, even the side characters such as the announcer herself even got a ton of reveal. Being around for that entire plot reveal was exhilarating and will be hard for Overwatch to top for me.
>>340787479
You joined a thread specifically about comparing aspects of TF2 and Overwatch, fuck of m8
I prefer the characters in TF2. Overwatch's humour feels a bit run-of-the-mill. Class banter is quite weak, and quite a lot of the dialogue references "serious" lore.
>>340768886
teleports behind u
shoots u with twin shotguns
'psssssh nothing personnel kid...DIE DIE DIE'
>>340802791
overwatch actually has no plot behind it. the devs have already stated that all the game scenarios in the maps are not canon. even tf2 managed to connect all of them.
Nobody in Overwatch has anything approaching a quote like
"HERE'S SOMETHIN YOU SHOULDA BUILT - A NOT DYIN' MACHINE"
"I AM OWNING YOU, YOU FAT BALD, FATTY FAT FAT-FAT"
Repeat after me, m-m-m-m-m- I'm dead
>>340803096
because Overwatch characters are not meant to be fun, they're meant to be "cool".
>>340792746
Literally none of those require money to obtain, you fucking stooge.
>>340764062
>You mess with the horse, YOU GET THE HORN!
>>340803045
Oh, really? I was hoping there was a reason for all that. Fuck, that's disappointing.
Well it makes sense then that I've been getting the feeling that all of these Overwatch characters feel like they've been made with their backgrounds as an afterthought, lending a lack of cohesion to the universe.
>>340763667
TF2. But it shits all over it in map design, as well. Not even gonna touch on the much better gameplay. Overwatch looks nice enough, and has good waifus, though.
Both good games.
Overwatch takes its cliche and often lame characters quite seriously
TF2 is irreverent, goofy and never serious
I'll take the latter every day
>>340803591
>praising both games
you can't do that here, you're only supposed to like one or the other
>>340763667
TF2's charm and shorts cannot be beat. Seriously, the editing and comedic timing in them is nigh-flawless.
https://youtu.be/36lSzUMBJnc?t=2m55s
>>340803536
that's because some of the characters are supposedly leftover assets from titan. while other characters like soldier 76 are chris metzen's comic mary sue or something.
>>340802585
>And don't bother bringing up sales, there is 0 correlation between sales and quality with the marketing driven modern video game market.
>muh game is a niche title piece of shit but.. but it's still g-good!
this is what insecure gabe worshipers actually believe
holy shit, what an absolutely embarrassing moron you are
>>340803687
Not him, but I like both of the games.
Character/charm/personality wise though, tf2 wins hands down
>>340802091
>Activision
Don't hold out for it anon.
>>340803096
>I have only finished what your liver started!
>Your white flag doesn't stop American bullets, Frenchie!
>There's a new gravy-filled angel in heaven!
>Scotland is not a real country! You are an Englishman with a dress!
>Go play your pinko chess with the devil, Commie!
>Sorry there, nurse, I mistook you for an actual threat.
OW really needs to step up its bantz.
>>340803876
STOP IT
I SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT
if overwatch and tf2 were to release at the same time, I'd probably play overwatch because it's more appealing. Also, release TF2 only had 5 maps +2fortI liked 2fort back then thoughand everything was really buggy. Overwatch is also broken as shit, you can place turrets under walls and they can still kill people or you can teleport inside a pillar so the enemy can't capture the point but TF2 was even more broken back then.
I think the TF2 characters have more personality, they are all really fun. to be honest I think overwatch will never be as good as TF2 at its best. I really liked custom servers and good custom maps. The community turned a good game into a great game. Too bad the community is shit now.
>>340803684
>moron thinks a colorful, diverse, unique cast of heroes is cliche
>moron admits he would rather have a dull, lifeless turd to play with
the cognitive dissonance is strong with this idiot
>TF2 is irrelevant
that is literally how i read it lmao.
>>340803708
Overwatch's short beat out TF2's by a longshot. Valve have shown that they're a one-trick pony that can only really do comedy. I challenge you to find a TF2 short that is as touching and heartfelt as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCc_BdBwFJQ
just the introduction has better writing than almost every TF2 short. not to mention the choreography. these shorts are professional, and it shows. though TF2's shorts are more quotable, these ultimately have a bit more substance, and are part of the reason as to why Overwatch blew up, and why it'll continue to blow up
>>340804016
I MAIN SOLDIER, PYRO, AND DEMOMAN
I ALSO MAIN PHARAH, JUNKRAT, AND REINHARDT
>>340803708
I AM BULLETPROOF in slow-mo as the engie and sniper look on in shock still makes me laugh to this day.
>>340804072
>I challenge you to find a TF2 short that is as touching and heartfelt as this
wew lad
weeeeeeeeeew lad
welcome to
THE BAD OPINION ZONE
>>340804072
>I challenge you to find a TF2 short that is as touching and heartfelt as this
>Touching
>Heartfelt
I mean, they're good animators, but that story was about as cliche and boring as you get. Blizzard writers are awful and always have been.
It's a shame they apparently don't give a crap about the shorts.
>>340804058
Say it with me. Ess, jay double-you.
>>340804072
I can't tell if you're serious or not
Expiration Date was pretty "heartfelt" though tbqh
>>340804072
>substance
>good writing
Overwatch fans, everyone.
>>340804006
>After seven years of development, the game was reported to have been cancelled in September 2014. Some of the maps developed for Titan are used in the first person shooter Overwatch.
Goddamn. This just reminds me of all the commentary nodes in TF2 and all the thought they put into the map design. I really miss commentary modes in games. Just the inclusion of it in a game makes it infinitely more endearing to me.
>>340804072
>I challenge you to find a TF2 short that is as touching and heartfelt
Well you are responding to Meet the Medic.
That has quite a few "touching" moments, and it's entirely based around "heartfelt"
>>340804072
>I challenge you to find a TF2 short that is as touching and heartfelt as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a398ROtnqM
check fucking mate
>>340804281
Meant for >>340803730
Also,
>worth the weight
>>340804058
Jeez famalam, did I strike a nerve?
Value is subjective, Overwatch's characters are often lame
dVa and Reaper are cuntish on the ears
>>340804287
Typical white male autistic Valve fan 'humor'. Take it to >>>/pol/, loser.
Christ, this game looks like a fucking Disney movie.
>>340804189
say it with me. butt. hurt. faggot.
>>340804423
nice projection,squirt.
nobody gives a shit about hat fartshits 2. it's over. dead. done. cope, bitch.
>>340804553
guess which one is the resounding success with literally millions of players just weeks after retail release and which one is a dead, irrelevant piece of shit?
time to kill yourself, my man.
>>340797348
>Clutter free and simple environment perfect for a FPS
>Giant clusterfuck of colors and props where you need glowing outlines to see anything
You tell me m8
>>340804072
>touching and heartfelt
I bet you cried with undertale
>>340804072
this is literally naruto-tier storytelling
>>340804072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnNOa1cQgBc
>>340804817
Wow friend, where's all that aggression coming from?
>>340804817
>implying TF2 was never popular nor a resounding success
>implying OW will remain popular for more than a year at maximum
>implying TF2 hasn't been relevant for nearly a decade, a longevity which OW is all but guaranteed never to touch especially without mods and custom servers
that one overwatch fanboy breathlessly defending this game is a good laff
i wonder if there are blizzard employees in this thread feeling a bit salty
>>340805058
>and then i animated it
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>340804817
Not knowing what the steam user statistics are for a game, or bothering to find them
>>340805181
If they let mods/custom servers in and keep frequent updates I could see it going on.
If they don't and only put out an update twice a year it's gonna be dead.
>>340805062
>>340805181
just look at this pair of angry, impotent retards whine and bitch. typical hat fortress 2 shitters lol.
>>340805285
Easily more Valve employees in this thread than Blizzard.
You're just as much of a shill, shill.
>>340805058
While I find the animation funny, he literally got every part of his prediction wrong outside of the stuff that was already shown in trailers for all the shorts released. Hanzo in Hanamura, the crime looking guys getting taken out by Hanzo, and the ult were all shown in a trailer and those are literally the only things he got right.
>>340805443
>shilling on /v/
>for one of /v/'s most beloved games of the last decade.
>>340805443
At least is one thread and not a 24/7 OW thread shilling spree
>>340770209
He was born in New Zealand but was raised to adulthood in Australia. He's Australian anon.
>>340805531
Damn, that's good. You should put that directly on TF2's steam page.
>>340805419
>all these salty Blizzard employees
>>340805419
haven't seen someone this sincerely mad over a videogame on /v/ for a while
it's so earnest
it's just
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