Blizzard is going to lose so much money
Literally every showing of this only has a handful seats reserved for the showing.
They even put it in at the IMAX theater near me, and none of it's sold out.
How much of a loss do you think it will be in the US?
Obviously China will recoup their budget costs
>160 million
Where did the budget go? Not in the sci-fi channel visuals, not in the nameless crew.
>they haven't already made a fuck ton of money on this piece of shit
It's shit, but it's still making an absurd amount of money.
>>340740721
what if they do a "extend your sub to wow for 6 months, get a free double pass to the warcraft movie"
>>340740721
If China is recouping their costs are they really losing money?
>>340742039
Nah, you're not consdering Hollywood accounting
This will still lose money
>>340740721
It's incredibly difficult to say because of hollywood accounting but you're pretty much guaranteed that this will make a huge amount of money in asia.
It's also unlikely that Blizzard financed this alone.
>>340741853
Marketing
Its always Marketing.
>>340742039
opportunity cost as well. they could have spent 160 million and years of effort into something that wasn't a fucking turd.
>>340740721
You sound bitter that Blizzard are successful.
>>340740721
Does that mean no surge of orc porn?
>>340740721
>Critics completely hate the movie
>Fans like the movie
Who is in the right here?
I mean, I saw it aid I didn't think it was as bad as Zoolander 2.
>>340741853
One thing you have to keep in mind is that budget =/= exactly what they need back.
Studios don't get 100% of ticket profit, they also need to pay back guarantees, outside investors with earning ratios beyond their initial loan, studio fees, etc. Also Chinese box office hurts the most because very little of a Chinese ticket price actually goes back to the studio.
Deadline already has shown that thanks to massive investment and guarantees for the production, for Warcraft to break even iit needs a box office earnings of $500m
>>340742432
I've heard shills saying "it's okay"
Not even "it's great"
>>340742039
They made $26m opening, and the box office turn over it massively underwhelming in the US, it's way under domestic expactations. China is only on course to rake in only $200-$250m total
Combine that with this post
>>340742473
Legendary isn't breaking even on this movie. There's a lot more to making back your money than having your box office = your budget.
I didn't see the movie, what's so bad about it ?
>>340742793
You could title this movie The Hobbit 4: Warcraft and it would seem like a fitting entry into the series.
If you've seen any of those movies, you'll understand what that means.
>>340742793
Normies see the movie and immediately dismiss it because of the name and association with the game that doesn't have a great reputation because of the people that play it.
Unfortunately normies are the majority of movie sales, and even if fans like it they are a small percentage.
>>340742880
I think i got the idea but could you explain a little bit ?
>>340743112
cgi piece of shit with no soul
holy fuck is that Lagnarr Lothbrook??? he plays the human guy that looks coool
>>340742623
Well I mean I thought it was okay, certainly not a masterpiece but not terrible either, although the movie will be lost on someone who has little to no prior knowledge of the lore behind it, which is easily the movie's fault.
Frankly I think that too much was packed into the movie, which left little room to establish the characters and explain exactly whats going on.
>>340742793
>>340742992
Every single scene from the trailers look like shit. Every single one.
And trailers are supposed to be the best scenes spliced together to make them look even better so people will want to watch the movie.
>>340742793
It isn't bad
>>340742793
Too much info with little explanation. Also normie WoW fans were expecting WoW The Movie.
>>340743286
one of the few okay actors in the movie, which is a shame
>>340743405
while i'm not intent on defending it, there have been a few movies with great trailers whereas the movie ended up being shit and vice versa, so i wouldn't place all your faith in those
>>340740721
It's already made itself back, so it can't loose them "so much money".
>>340743856
>It's already made itself back
Not even close. There are several posts in this thread already explaining why. Learn to read.
The term "Hollywood accounting" exists for a reason. Box offices need to be a good 3-4x the budget for the studio to actually break even on their cost.
>you will never get a warcraft animated series
Fuck this live action shit.
they'll lose money
>>340745604
Would this exact same movie but 100% Blizzard CGI/animation made the film any better? Would it have cost more or less?
Was Blizzard even the one which contributed the capital?
>>340746349
I like the Orc but that head snap...
>>340742793
Nothing , its a fun movie but the retards here on 4chan are just negative about everything and probably haven't even watched it and just make shit up
>>340740721
It's an ok movie if you take it for what it is: a movie aimed at children and grown autists.
Don't take it seriously and it's kinda enjoyable. The dialogue is Warcraft, the settings are Warcraft, the plot is Warcraft. It's just as shit as the shit you've played for years.
>>340746363
Blizzard doesn't do the cool CGI shit
>>340746435
>head snap
That's a neck, anon.
>>340742432
Those "fans" tend to be Blizzard employees. It's why I don't even bother with the official forums or "fansites" owned by Blizzard.
Better than it should have been. Not perfect but still a good movie. 8/10
>>340746561
>It's an ok website if you take it for what it is: a website aimed at children and grown autists.
>>340746363
>Would this exact same movie but 100% Blizzard CGI/animation made the film any better?
Well after 48 years the first episode would come out and we'd never have to worry about a shitty followup because we'd all be dead by the time the second one happened.
>>340742793
It was cut from almost 3 hours down to 2
Compare this earlier leaked scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePGvdc2--E
They cut the death-life chant down to two lines in the release
>>340746363
I'm thinking more along the lines of something cartoonish, like that 2d clone-wars stuff.
Has to be cheaper than Blizzard's cutscenes or CGI.
>>340746570
>Blizzard doesn't do the cool CGI shit
>This shit again
Yes they do, you can watch them making it in any of the collectors edition blurays and DVDs for WoW expansions. You can see their CG team at BlizzCon.
Your stupid shit you're talking about is pre-viz, they farm out pre-viz to a Korean studio once they finalize the screenplay for the cinematic so they can work on assets in the mean time, their team is very small.
>Budget: 160 Million
>Box Office: 171 Million
>Only 10 Million earned
B L U N D E R
I don't know if you all watched it but honestly it was great. I'd written blizzard off entirely after having managed to fuck up every single one of their franchises but this movie was excellent. The critique is that if you didn't play Warcraft or even WoW then you'll have no idea what's going on the whole time or why it's going on. This movie wasn't made for normies to go see it. If you know the lore, you will like it. And for the record they did makes few slight changes to the lore in the movie but nothing really mattered. The CGI wasn't as bad as everybody who hasn't seen it is saying, and even the battle scenes looked good.
>>340746939
>Earned
See
>>340742473
>>340746939
No, it's a success. And it will only get bigger as the year passes by. Unfortunately. I want it to crash and burn as much as the next guy here, but they are still big enough not to sink just yet.
I am buying this filmin thepiratebay today.
What am I getting into? Should I have a backup plan?
>>340744756
Wrong. The inflated budget IS the Hollywood accounting. Tax writeoffs for jews.
Its already massively profitable
>>340747125
why do you want it to crash and burn
Its literally a fine movie
why is everyone so bitter
>>340747093
I'm aware, that's exactly why its a blunder
>>340747249
Where do you think you are?
>>340747310
the real abomination is the Deepwater HOrizon trailer they showed before the warcraft movie
>>340746626
I just meant the way the head turns.
>>340747249
>why do you want it to crash and burn
Because Blizzard is arrogant towards their WoW player base and use bullshit manipulated sub numbers from China to silence all their valid complaints about WoW. They're assholes who take their success and fans for granted.
Blizzard needs a reality check in some form they can't lie their way out of, and a third party like a Hollywood studio having to write off losses on a Warcraft movie is a good way to accomplish that.
>>340746693
I heard that it's almost 100% lore/exposition and nothing else, so if you're into that I can see why someone might like it. Haven't seen it yet, going in a few weeks with my brother (assuming it's still in theaters by then).
>>340747230
>Its already massively profitable
It's currently profited $160m in box office.
They would need to get 98% of ticket value to even break even at this point. It doesn't work like that, especially in China.
>>340742473
This is totally fucking wrong.
Studios get 100% of the ticket cost, that's why concessions cost so much money, because theaters get 0 dollars from ticket sales.
After a movie has been in the theater two or three weeks, they start giving a percentage to the theater, or else the theater won't be able to keep the movie in their houses any longer.
International box office is totally different. A huge chunk of it never comes back to the US.
>>340747463
The only valid complaints about wow is that the game isn't like an old game and that pisses off a small amount of people
When considering all the "bullshit" they've added to the game is the reason it got to be as big as it was, why would they cater to a small majority
You retards are so pathetic
>>340741853
The human on poster is Ragnar Lothbrok in Viking, that alone will make me torrent that otherwise shitty looking movie.
>>340747362
Now that looks like a fucking shit movie
>lol it's earned back it's budget!
No it hasn't. The film cost 160 million or so to make. Now, multiply that by 2 to 2.5 for advertising. Now add in that the studio gets about 50% of a domestic ticket sale, and anywhere from 10-30% on a foreign ticket sale. Then you have to pay everyone who was involved in the production.
This movie is going to have a hard time getting anywhere close to breaking even.
>>340747685
>I got an idea
>lets make an action movie over the BP oil spill
>But ya lets forget about all the oil that polluted the golf that isn't fun
>>340747635
>When considering all the "bullshit" they've added to the game is the reason it got to be as big as it was
>The game pop is half of what it used to be
Ok.
>>340742473
>Also Chinese box office hurts the most because very little of a Chinese ticket price actually goes back to the studio.
This is usually the case, but Legendary is literally a chinese company now so they're gonna see more of a return on the gross there
>>340747737
Why do people even bother to make posts like these with fake figures? What is the point in trying to argue something you literally don't know.
You don't need to defend/attack everything.
>>340747249
I haven't seen it yet. If I go see it and it is complete shit like it seems, I will find you and kick you in the balls.
>>340747780
>it is still the single largest MMO on earth
>implying blizzard expected to keep every single player aqcuired and didn't account for the lifecycle of long lasting games
You are all fucking idiots. Just because you want to truly believe Blizzard is a company made of 100% hacks doesn't make that true.
>>340747578
>Studios get 100% of the ticket cost
Sure they do buddy, and that's why not all theater pries are the same and seating is priced differently.
>>340747860
>pls stop being right
Denial i see
>>340747937
Seating isn't priced differently?
>>340747906
Considering you have already made your bias clear you are probably not going to like it
This is how you ruin things anon
>>340747737
>Now, multiply that by 2 to 2.5 for advertising
Not every single movie has an inflated marketing budget, senpai. You're thinking that because Batman v Superman spent $150 million on marketing that every single movie does.
Did you see a superbowl ad for Warcraft? Was Legendary literally buying commercial planes to put an ad for the movie on them?
Saw a free showing for it before it came out.
Even then the theater wasn't full.
>>340747746
Was the BP accident caused by negligence or was it actually an accident?
Seems like a weird movie to make if these fuckers purposely cheaped out and caused all that oil poulltion
>>340748003
Not my fault. Considering they spend so much on advertising, maybe they should have show. something decent during the pre-release stuff. I don't just randomly go watch things like a fanboy.
>>340747937
I have worked in multiple theaters as management and can assure that that the studios get 100 percent of the ticket price and the theater sees none of the ticket money.
Thats why the drinks, food, and arcade are expensive because it's the main source of profit.
>>340748016
I think negligence a little bit,
But Its an action movie
It stars Mark Wahlberg jumping around an exploding and in flames oil rig
Think about it
HERE'S SOME REAL FACTS
The production budget is $160 million, the marketing budget $110 million.
That means it needs to make more than ~$500 million to make a profit
>Is this possible?
Yes
>How?
After his weekend it has guaranteed made over $100 million in Europe.
It's projected to make at least $300 million in China, but considering it has broken several of F7 records (although, F7 did have a massive opening) it could very well get closer to $400 million.
Considering it will make continue to make money in Europe (it hasn't even opened in a few European countries), and the fact that it will make even more money in Korea, Japan, South America, Australia etc, it will definitely make more than $500 million.
How much over $500 million though? Not too much I would guess. I'm guessing it will reach ~$600 million.
>>340748004
Wrong. The marketing isn't just here in the states but abroad as well. They probably spent greater than the budget of the film advertising in China and other countries. Marketing costing equal to the film's budget is lowballing it. Most movies, even lower budget ones spend more on advertising than the actual film itself.
Blizzard is actually rolling in so much dosh it won't effect them very much if it fails.
>enough money to buy themselves back from Activision.
>enough money to buy candy crush
>enough money to develop and launch 3+ new game franchises simultaneously.
>enough money for a 160 million dollar movie.
>enough money to pay legions of shills, including Anti Battleborn/Falseflag shills.
>>340748494
>Anti Battleborn shills
>>340747578
>Studios get 100% of the ticket cost
Are you retarded? No they don't. Good job buying into the bullshit to make you think concessions aren't overpriced.
Not only do they not get 100% of ticket value, they also have to pay investor dividends on the ticket profits before they receive their portion of it.
A perfect example of this is Hunger Games Catching Fire. That movie had an announced budget of $130m. It pulled in $420m in domestic box office alone. Lionsgate announced to investors later that year that they got $260m of that, and that didn't even break even because the budget doesn't account for marketing nor for dividends and guarantees that they paid to the investors first.
So do that math, $130m announced budget and $420m domestic box office didn't even break them even.
>>340747737
Never underestimate the power of Hollywood Accounting. For some strange reason, the latest Fantastic 4 movie made a profit and that PG Cinderella movie no one's heard about is in the top 10 most profitable movies of 2015
>>340742310
Off Overwatch maybe. The Warcraft movie is fucking bombing
>>340746349
>that humie sperging out on the bottom right
Just stab the green bastard.
>>340748201
>I have worked in multiple theaters as management and can assure that that the studios get 100 percent of the ticket price
You can cut the bullshit, no one's buying it.
Especially when people who have worked at theaters know you would never know profit ratios, those are discussed between studio distribution heads and local distributors, your theater itself never agreed to anything directly with the studio, there was intermediary.
>>340747249
Fucking this, I'm so tired of all the miserable cunts fucking telling me how shit this movie is without even fucking seeing it. It was mostly good barring some serious pacing issues. I feel bad for the people who just go out of their way to shit on anything Blizzard does, like how jaded do you have to be to be like that?
>>340747982
Dbox, moving seats, premium seats.
>>340748201
Oh look, the obligatory "my dad works for Nintendo" post.
>>340747249
I saw it Thursday night.
It's anything but a fine movie.
It's a fucking clusterfuck and the bits of humor that are Warcraft related don't even feel right.
They left out huge parts of Warcraft lore and everyone left confused, even people with WoW shirts on were talking about how they didn't understand it.
>>340748847
Theater Manager is an incredibly low tier job. People can get it after working concessions for a year.
>>340742051
actually you get like 3 months of sub if you buy ticket in poland/france
>>340740721
>chinese company going to fund the next film
>half of extras are chinese and supporting roles
>>340748494
That name is blocked because you can't use honour titles like King. Mature language is just the blanket error for blocked names.
>>340748885
A: I don't believe you
B: its literally one of the most easily understood movies ever. If you can't understand what happened then you should go back to preschool because it isn't some mindfuck plot
C: There was minimal subtly warcraft related humor. The joke about polymorph lasting 60 seconds would fly over the head of anyone who hasn't played wow but its a funny inside joke for those who do
>>340740721
I saw it
It was trash
>>340749015
>people who look at this webm don't understand the context that thrall roured at his dad once before in the movie and then does it again
>>340748818
>>340747249
>implying we're just doing this to spite a giant media corporation
>not to upset their rabid and inane fans
>>340749264
Is there context as to why the CG is so fucking awful too?
>>340749320
Oh is that why you guys keep posting the webm?
It isn't awful?
>>340749363
>It isn't awful?
8/10, I thought you were serious for a minute.
>>340749363
It's fucking horrible looking.
Movie is average at best wouldn't pay to see it in theatres anyway. t
They tried to shove to much information into the 2hrs they had as a result the pacing feels really off and the characters all feel very shallow
>>340749301
That must be very fulfilling for you.
>>340740721
Does't matter they can always just milk HS and OW to recoup costs but then again serves them right for going live action because WE WANT THE NORMIES TO WATCH THIS
>>340749448
>>340749436
But its not lol
Jesus christ you people
>>340749143
No, I think you just overesitmate the average WoW-tard's knowledge of "lore". Especially the original WC lore which was barely telling a story to begin with. All it was doing was set up the scenario for the next campaign mission.
>>340749514
here's how you make retards shut up, watch this
>>340749436
>>340749448
what makes it bad?
>>340749537
You don't even have to know any of the characters to know whats going on. I could see if you were going in expecting to see SYLVANUS ILLIDAN MALFURION clusterfuck and being confused that they aren't in the movie, but being confused over th simple as fuck plot that happened?
You don't need to know the lore to know what the fuck is going on
It's probably the best video game movie ever made and sticks pretty rigidly to the lore of the first war.
Not that this is saying much.
>>340749015
>>340749436
>>340749448
What's bad about it? Seriously
The CGI blends in perfectly
Yes obviously it looks silly you fucking retards, it's an orc baby. That does not mean it looks bad
>>340749618
>what makes it bad
You thought this would make someone shut up? You fucking idiot.
It's on par with CGI from movies made in 2010. It looks rushed, poorly animated, and looks like a CGI movie cartoon, not CGI in a live action film.
>>340749762
Your reddit is showing.
>>340749754
>You don't need to know the lore to know what the fuck is going on
So they ruined the point why people liked WC in the first place?
It already made it's money back, you spergs. It outsold Transformers in China.
The worst region profit-wise is, ironically, US.
>>340749754
You're talking about the generation of movie-goers who thought Christopher Nolan movies were the deepest shit.
>>340749618
>what makes it bad
Compare it to a movie in 2013.
>>340740721
>amerifats thinking the Burgerstan box office matters
This shit is raking in millions upon millions in Europe and China.
>>340749320
what movie has god cg? can't think of any
>>340749781
congratulations on writing so much and saying so little you angry little adam sessler you. What makes it on par with cgi from 2010? What makes it look rushed and poorly animated? Use your words to explain your retarded little thoughts
>>340749856
What? That has nothing to do with being able to understand whats happening. As far as I know its pretty much about 90% accurate to the existing warcraft lore.
I'm talking about being able to understand what is going on while watching the movie... The lore is all on screen, but you literally don't need to know any of it when walking into the theater to understand whats happening.
>>340749960
Congratulations on saying
>What makes it bad? If you don't explain it the way I want you to, you're wrong.
>Oh, what's that, you explained your feelings?
>I'm going to use Reductio ad absurdum until you can't explain anymore.
>>340749957
Avatar
Pacific Rim
It's so weird
even the critics who panned the shit out of the movie thought the CGI was great
literally the only place you find people complaining about it is 4chan
>>340749948
>europe
>movies
I'll admit the Asian market is doing well (just like the Chinese market is doing better for WoW Subs than the rest of the world). But what kind of pot have you been smoking to think EU sales ever mattered nowadays?
>>340749781
>Buzzwords: the post
It looks great. You dislike it because it looks silly and because you think the green skincolour makes it look cartoony
>>340749760
It's a cgi baby and it's also green with pointed ears. It looks horrible because it's being compared to live action. Which means everything looks sillier by comparison and also it ends with a baby Orc roar, it's so hammy that it's trite.
The movie is the worst parts of Warcraft,
>>340750018
The guy you're linking is a retard and so are you if you believe you need $500m to break even with ~160m invested.
>>340749960
>What makes it on par with cgi from 2010?
This question is so stupid. Please kill yourself for the sake of humanity.
>>340750120
>its so hammy
But thrall literlly did it earlier on in the movie...
>>340742793
It requires an understanding of Warcraft lore to find it enjoyable at all.
>>340750064
you didn't explain shit you dumb faggot, you just threw more shit at the wall and expected me to take that as an answer. Pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushie
>>340750084
Okay, let's actually compare Avatar and Warcraft!
Here's a picture from Avatar. Definitely looks great, even better when you consider it was made back in 2008
>>340750137
Your compelling argument has convinced everyone in the thread, congratulations.
>>340749960
For one, the CGI in King Kong from 2005 looks more detailed and has more character to it than this film in 2016 with a green orc Babby with solid green skin and pure white stubs for teeth. There's no lines in his skin, he looks totally out of place with the environment and looks like someone is holding up a motion capture doll or something that's floating there.
The eyes look empty and hollow like you'd see in a video game, too.
>>340750220
Oh boy, I can't wait for your subjective opinion and that one 0.5 second shot of SW which looks bad, while the 99% of the CGI in Warcraft is stellar.
>>340740721
>Blizzard is going to lose so much money
>Budget $160 million
>Box office $287.6 million
>>340750084
>>340750220
Here's a picture from Warcraft. The details and especially the skin and hair is vastly superior to the Na'Vi in Avatar.
>>340750114
Half of the orcs aren't green. Hell just look at the poster.
>>340750239
Are you implying >>340742473 gave any proof except speculations and "I think so, so it must be true"?
>>340750292
Do the gene pool a favour and off yourself you fucking loser
>>340749618
>what makes it bad?
Rancid matchmoving for one, ILM has been fucking this up a lot lately, this isn't limited to Warcraft.
Compositing around the fur blanket and Thrall is hilariously bad, you can tell the guy in charge of this shot knew this too because he ramped the blend hardness way the fuck down to smooth the transition, leaving an almost video game-like ambient occlusion shadowing which is over darkening the area which would be much brighter in actual light.
They pimp their amazing hair technology they made specifically for the movie, but it looks like sub-pixar shit and reacts very unbelievably with lighting
Eyes are overly glassy and the specular highlight from the sun moves too much with his eye, meaning either the eye is way too flat, or it's scattering the light way too low in the limbus, basically the opposite problem of doll eyes.
I will give them credit on the skin deformation on the arms though.
>>340750290
Much better. Good job, informative criticism. A spec of knowledge in a sea of ignorance.
>>340750106
>EU sales ever mattered nowadays?
Are all amerimutts this stupid?
>>340750290
that doesn't look remotely beleivable
you are a fucking idiot for comparing warcraft to king kong
Does someone have she shoddy CGI webms of king kong
please shut this fucker up
>>340750106
Have you been paying any attention to this shit?
All of the shitty amerifat movies keep getting sequels because Europe watches them in droves.
The European market is the one and only reason why Resident Evil had any sequels at all.
>>340750315
No, you don't understand, you need to make 2963^6 quintillion dollars to break even. Blizzardrones so mad, WoW killer confirmed.
>>340750356
That is a CGI character in a CGI scene.
>>340749948
It's not that China and the EU earn more than the US, it's that the US alone can't earn back the budget of a movie plus advertising and other costs. US box office is still the majority gross. The money earned per ticket from China and the EU is very low, just over a tenth of what a ticket costs. A movie that earns 300 million in China only nets you about 30 million toward the film's total earnings. Meanwhile 300 million in American ticket sales equates to about 150 million.
> if you know your lore
Sure thing senpai
>no Stormreaver clan or Shadow Council
>Gul'dan is apparently the leader of the horde
>Doomhammer is a Frostwolf
>Blackhand dies in honourable combat and not backstabbed
>Gul'dan doesn't end in a coma when Medivh dies
>Doomhammer doesn't become Warchief
>Stormwind doesn't get razed, Alliance formed anyways
>orcs are honorable warriors that dindu nothing wrong
>firearms in the first war
>Llane begs Garona to kill him, dies in battle
>Fel magic corrupts instead of demon blood
>Dalaran already floating
>No Ner'zhul
>Khadgar not being part of Kirin Tor and not being Med's apprentice
>>340750405
Are you implying YOU gave any proof except speculations and "I think so, so it must be true"?
His post was detailed and well thought out. Yours was "HURR HE A RETRAD".
>>340750458
>Pathetic yurocuck getting triggered
There's always one.
>>340750508
>the forest in Avatar was not CGI
it's likely that they used some props/pieces of a real jungle but if you honestly believe that picture of na'vi isn't a cgi character in a cgi scene then you're fucking stupid
>>340750545
Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
>>340750290
>hes going to use king kong as an example of good CGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LFQun4HQj8
Get fucked
>>340742793
Its just /v/ being spoiled, I enjoyed the movie. (never played Warcraft 1, maybe that's why)
>>340750493
>The European market
Blame germans for that.
Because they don't have their own movies there, they have to resort only watching bad hollywood shit.
>>340750409
>impliying I dont have offspring already
>>340750556
Movie is canon everything you listed is now irreverent anon live with it
>>340749301
(You)
>>340750508
...and we are talking about CGI? Are you retarded?
Also the surrounding is actually not CGI
>>340750394
Most orcs are green faster the fel magic, only a few are brown.
>>340750290
No it didn't in any way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZsJYZVt5g
Look, the Warcraft movie has plenty of problems, but the visuals are not one of those problems.
>>340750405
See
>>340748657
Hunger Games cost less than Warcraft and needed over $500m to break even, their $430m domestic alone wasn't even close to break even for them and the movie was a disappointment to investors.
Budgets are a fraction of what a movie actually needs to make to get a profit.
>>340750729
>Because they don't have their own movies there
Spoken like someone who has no fucking idea how many movies Krauts shit out every year.
>>340750680
And its funny seeing blizzard fans try to defend a movie that no one asked for.
>>340750584
He didn't give you any proof, but you and 5 other retards in the thread believed him, because his post made some sense, before he spouted stupid shit like "$500m to break even".
You are a retard if you believe him. I'm not calling you one, I'm telling you how can you tell if you are one.
>>340750671
To be fair, King Kong was still very good for its time.
Compared to today however? Absolutely dogshit
>>340740721
>Looking to escape from his dying world, the orc shaman Gul'dan utilizes dark magic to open a portal to the human realm of Azeroth. Supported by the fierce fighter Blackhand, Gul'dan organizes the orc clans into a conquering army called the Horde. Uniting to protect Azeroth from these hulking invaders are King Llane, the mighty warrior Anduin Lothar (Travis Fimmel) and the powerful wizard Medivh. As the two races collide, leaders from each side start to question if war is the only answer.
it sounds great on paper so how did they manage to fuck it up?
It's not going to make enough money.
It will have digital/dvd decent sales as niche films, especially "geek" properties often do.
Despite what /v/ thinks, you nerds are A target but not THE target of this film. Vidya audiences are not actively sought for major motion pictures as you guys, as a demographic, don't go to or pay for a lot of movies. This was almost entirely marketed at normies (outside of promotional deals with various videogame websites but that shit is normal). Unfortunately, it's doing terrible with normies - largely due to poor reviews/word of mouth.
Not to mention big fantasy battle cgi type films - which even if it's not what this is, it's what it looks like to a normie - are not as big of a draw as they were due to LOTR/hobbit over-saturation.
I saw it and it was "ok" as in I wouldn't have minded having it on via netflix while i did shit, but it was corny and I'm sort of burnt out on cgi nonsense everywhere. I did enjoy things looking a lot like the games, from the armor to the cities, and it was clear a lot of work was put into it. However i never played War1/2, only warcraft 3. And a little WoW but i doubt that counts as far as the story.
More Chocolate Factory memes. Less Warcraft discussion.
>>340750893
they didn't fuck it up is how
>>340748885
What didn't you understand about it?
I left the movie able to give a step by step summary of it?
Its Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets level of complexity.
>>340750952
Critics disagree.
I did like the Anduin subplot better than the rest though.
How many movies till Illidan Arthas showdown
>>340750493
You're forgetting to mention how minimal the budget for RE movies is, even compared to other action sci-fi movies or straight to video shit.
>>340750842
You're both right and kinda wrong.
The thing about the box office is, you can't just compare to movies based on their production budget.
Warcraft needs $500 million to break even and I explain why it will reach that number here >>340748378
>>340750768
>how to spot a wow shitter
I love how butthurt critics are about this movie having a mostly white cast, made for white males and apparently orcs being being the fantasy world equivalent of the invading brown hordes coming to the 1st world. Can you imagine in LoTR was made today? Critics would eviscerate it.
>>340750860
>Spoken like someone who has no fucking idea how many movies Krauts shit out every year.
No matter how much movies you shit out, they still have to be good.
Tell me a recent german movie that was popular in european cinema.
>>340750842
Pacific Rim had a budget of $190m, made back ~410 and has already a sequel in the works so it obviously made a profit.
But yeah, $500m, whatever.
>green screen action movie
gee i wonder what went wrong
>>340751042
>Critics disagree.
Look, plenty of critics certainly brings up good point but trusting critics is literally retarded
>Dalaran is floating
Dropped.
They fucked up any chance of a decent WC3 movie
Also
>Dwarves and elves in the first war
>>340750941
A much better movie anyways.
Movies aren't made for the American audience anymore, it's all about the Ching Chong Pocket Change.
>>340751042
just because critics don't like it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable movie, which is what it is
Its not Citizen Kane but it doesn't have to b
>>340749015
The movie theater I went to was 25% grills.
Granted they all looked like theyve never made it past lvl 20 in WoW but they were there with their boyfriends and sht.
Anyways at this part, they all "awww so cute" just like the director wanted them to.
>>340751156
>Dwarves and elves in the first war
What? They didn't join the war effort. Humans were alone in the movie.
>tfw burgerstan is an irrelevant market
laughingorcs.jpg
>>340751153
>Let me take this universally lambasted film, rocking a 27% over 90 reviews, and cherry pick something to try and discount it all.
Keep it up Blizzcuck, I'm sure they'll give you a free Overwatch crate after 500 posts.
china already paid enough to fund the next 100 warcraft movies
yall nigas dumb or?
>2nd highest gross in China history
Nah OP
>>340751181
>Just turn off your brain bruh, eat some popcorn bro
Fucking kill yourself.
>>340748494
>>340749126
It's because with the "bur", "gerking" sounds like "jerking".
>>340742279
yeah gee if theres a company that cant afford to drop millions like chump change it's blizzard.
theres no opportunity cost when you make millions on 1 game every few months.
is u stupid
thats i do whatever i want money
it was make the movie or buy more coke
>>340750356
funny how the end result in motion still looks like shit
>>340751258
>Ignoring what I said
>Karazan
What the fuck did they do to the tower?
It looks fucking ugly and nothing like it
>>340751181
Read the rest of the reply chain. It's not that it cant be enjoyable (hell, I absolutely love xXx for instance) but that even assholes who watch movies for a living found the plot convoluted.
What makes you faglords think you know how well Joe McSimpleton will follow the movie?
>>340751380
>self proclaimed critics
>>340750656
Start accepting that this movie is going to fail financially. Just because you're in denial doesn't change the facts.
>>340740721
It sold like hotcakes.
Anyone want a game code from the movie that they give you? 4 xmog and the game for free, free to a good home.
>>340740721
>Obviously China will recoup their budget costs
No, it won't. Literally no-one gives a shit about Warcraft in China, or Hollywood films in general.
>>340750220
>Avatar
>ignore that it had twice the budget when adjusted for inflation
>ignore it was directed by James Cameron
technology is improving, but that doesn't mean that 99% of movies don't use the same cgi they did when Avatar came out.
>>340751067
How's the movie not lore the Blizzard have said as much
>>340751585
>Literally no-one gives a shit about Warcraft in China
It's the biggest ever film in China. Highest opening, highest presale.
i don't understand why they made a warcraft movie when a starcraft movie would have been infinitely more visually interesting, not to mention that it would offer a lot more options story-wise
>>340750893
>it sounds great on paper
Reminder that these are the people who argue that video games are art
>>340751494
>people who give Boyhood 100/100 and the title of the best movie of all time are better
Why did so many Chinese people go to see this movie?
>>340751585
What prompts idiots to spout blatantly incorrect statements? Is this just brute-strength trolling?
>>340750106
>But what kind of pot have you been smoking to think EU sales ever mattered nowadays?
Uhh, the European market is bigger than the US one
>>340750585
Only triggered because you're fucking retarded
>they didn't just start with warcraft 3
Who the fuck cares about 1 and 2 lmao
>>340750556
all of those plot holes can and will be filled in later, Warcraft II.
None of those prevent the plot from progressing into Warcraft II.
>>340750893
>it sounds great on paper so how did they manage to fuck it up?
except it doesn't at all
>>340751761
Warcraft is huge in asia, much more so than america and the EU
>>340751556
Still offering, shoot me an email @ [email protected]
>>340751810
>Uhh, the European market is bigger than the US one
Not that guy and Europe is definitely important but the European market is not bigger than the US'
>>340751761
WC3 is still an esport in China somehow and they love WoW. They're huge fanboys.
>>340742039
They were 8 years too late to capitalize on the WoW boom when it was in it's peak and everywhere in pop culture for nerd shit
>>340751585
Do you live under a fucking rock dude?
>>340751709
I really despise this notion, not because I disagree with it strictly I think games can be a good medium for art but because 9/10 time these fags just want game to be like movies.
Video-game adaptations into movies are a weird step for me, an admission by someone that the game would be better as a motion picture.
>>340751065
>warcraft needs 1 billion dollars or its a bust and will bankrupt Blizzard
Sure it will anon, kk
>>340743152
>>340742880
The Hobbit films are such a fucking depressing reality. The book has so much atmosphere, pretty good characters, great tone setting and describes the environment really well. It's comfy as fuck to read, and one of my favourite books to this day (though maybe that's because childhood).
The films, in comparison, are bottom of the barrel CGI trash that Hollywood shat out.
>>340751528
No seriously, give me a source to confirm the numbers you were giving, like China's box office only being worth 10%, and I will agree that this movie is financially fucked.
>>340748714
>not watching GOAT live action Cinderella
i saw this with my wife and her son and it was great
>>340752256
Waste of a great Bilbo, too. Such a fucking pity.
>Blizzard is going to lose so much money
>>340751903
>European market is not bigger than the US'
Also muslims dont go to the theaters that often
>>340750671
>>340750804
Amazing CG scenes ruined by having live actors in them too. Why do they do this shit? Just make a CG movie.
Even with their massive budgets, I can't look at them as anything else besides ironic greenscreen comedy like in Tim and Eric.
>>340751903
>Not that guy and Europe is definitely important but the European market is not bigger than the US'
In terms of raw population the EU has 508 million + 5 million for Norway and 8 million for Switzerland, while the US is at ~320 million. Yes, some of those EU countries are poor as shit, but there's still 400 million who can afford to go to the cinema often.
>>340752256
Making a 90 page book into a trilogy, adding random scenes because why the fuck not
>Just fuck my shit right up
>>340750493
>The European market is the one and only reason why Resident Evil had any sequels at all.
God bless europeans
So now that the movie didn't fail, are there going to be sequels?
>>340748885
I went with a friend who knew nothing about Warcraft and he understood 90% it. The biggest problem he had was remembering all the characters because of how many were introduced. It really needed that extra 40 minutes that was cut.
Overall I enjoyed it and hope we get a trilogy.
>>340751110
Kriegger 3 was pretty popular all over europe just like guttseg kieff
>>340750729
When the best directors Germany can produce are the likes of Uwe Boll of course they're gonna watch American schlock.
>>340752717
almost certainly, even if it hadn't failed they might have tried anyway
this entire movie was just sequel bait as it's all exposition basically
>>340752717
Did you watch the ending? Literally sequel written all over the screen
Based Thrall is coming
>>340752641
Well, to be fair, the book is 320 pages, but you're right. Considering how the LoTR films were pretty good and those books are a combined 1000 pages...
>>340750804
The issue is the mix between cg and practical is comical.
I saw this yesterday with a friend who knows the lore. I didn't know the lore but was hoping this was a gateway drug into the lore. We both thought it was pretty bad.
From a newbie the movie just shits out characters and major plot devices without any consern for explanation. The first part of the movie was prommising because it showed why the orcs are doing and why. Who the fuck is any of the humab and why should i care? The lack of backstory makes me fee nothing for any tragic moments. Apparently the queen is important beyondTake this dagger half orc lady we just met. Hell the fact that half orc chick becomes so easy liked and trusted seemed stupid as shit. Every fight was a OHKO and anticlimactic besides badass orc fight.
My friend who knew the lore explained it better to me, however, he also stated they threw the timeline way off and it felt rushed as well as had characters do shit they didn't actually do. I've heard great things about Warcraft 3s story but if they butcher that I'm pirating it out of spite.
>>340752969
been years since I read it, always thought it was really short for some reason.... point still stands thats just over 100 pages per book
>>340747737
>Then you have to pay everyone who was involved in the production
This is how I know you're full of shit.
>>340742793
>People compared it to Duncan Jones other works like Source Code and complained it wasn't a Psychological Thriller.
>No one but Duncan Jones or Uwe Bowl wanted to pick this up
>It shows and tells too much that mostly fans will have to keep up with it
>They pick the wrong topic as while the First war is interesting, It had little to go on. They should have done a Trilogy on the Third game with Arthas, Thrall and Illidan.
>People here who only seen stills because they are too cheap to go see opening night have dedicated hours to ripping this apart
>Human Actors acted stiff and unnatural to their role except Khadgar. Needed a lot more humour and people naturally acting.
>Movie came out way past the hype period
>Garona's makeup was garbage, The romance was Hobbit tier so "Not bad, But really useless"
But it's a decent movie for a watch or two. Much better then Batman vs Superman for me and isn't as bad as people make it, They are just too Neet to go into a theatre with friends to see a movie about Wars and Crafts.
/v/ would complain about a fucking amusement park and how they never enjoyed the rides their even if they didn't go.
>>340746349
Jesus christ, if I was the studio that did this CGI I'd ask to have my name not included in the credits. That's worse then most games from the 90s.... that collision, that acting, such shit, much disgust.
>>340753163
Literally every movie ever, best friends in 5 minutes. This is why a series on tv is superior, this is why anime is superior because there are so many stories
>>340753163
You're friend is a faggot and so are you.
As someone who knows the lore I can tell they, despite some minor changes, stuck to the main storyline well.
The worst lore rape they've done is Garona killing Llane, because he told her to.
>>340753407
Better than Batman yup lmao. If you saw Batman, you better see this shit. First war is meh, but everything after is way the fuck better, too bad this shit didn't come out with Draenor's release
>>340753163
>chick becomes so easy liked and trusted seemed stupid as shit.
well thats sort of the point, and it will come back later on when most humans hate all the orcs and want them killed...
>Apparently the queen is important
I dont think she is, might be wrong
>Who the fuck is any of the humab
idk should you care? I was cheering for the orcs... (the good orcs)
>>340747737
>No it hasn't. The film cost 160 million or so to make.
>Then you have to pay everyone who was involved in the production.
So what you're saying is, the initial 160 million didn't pay a single person involved with production?
Not only is that factually incorrect, it's blatantly retarded.
>>340752317
Not his numbers but here you go.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable
>>340753598
Good. I hate the obsession this site has with this movie, treating it like it's the funniest shitstill, I think this rating is too low
>>340748770
>your theater itself never agreed to anything directly with the studio, there was intermediary.
>he doesnt know there are locally owned theaters
>>340740721
If I never played the game does it mean my opinion on the movie will be more objective than blizzardrones?
>>340753514
Wrong
Manga > Anime
>>340751825
Should have been saved for Prequels or Mini-series or something. The Thought of the Ogres and Goblins joining is cool for me since it would mean watching Goblins bombing people and Ogres throwing Dwarves
>>340740721
my only problem is Medivh, compare image related with video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DRKBtE1HY
>>340750356
>>340750804
The CGI scenes were fucking beautiful when there was no live action around.
>this guy is actually ripped as fuck
>>340752624
http://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2012-Theatrical-Market-Statistics-Report.pdf
This is a few years old but I can't imagine Europe overtaking the US by any significant margin since then.
>>340753868
You'll probably be really confused at to who everyone is.
If you do go don't expect the deeepest plot and just go to watch humans fighting orcs
>>340753751
>TLDR: if you make twice your production budget you are good
So warcraft needs 320m, it's already at 168m and has weeks left to continue collecting, nevermind DVD and boxtop sales.
It's in perfectly good shape.
Those RANDOM AS FUCK cuts ruined the movie.
hopefully we'll get the director's cut version because right now it's an Uwe boll tier
>>340754209
Even the arcane orcs can break your skull with one hand
>>340754281
actually its at 287m
Here's what I don't understand, why do people care what movie critics are going to say when they always pan video game movies regardless of whether they're good or not?
>>340754435
Because thats the classic shill response.
>Its not a movie for the critics!
>>340754340
>not liking uwe boll
It's like you don't want to see Matthew Lillard trying to pay the bills or something.
>>340754701
It's probably shit, but still. Who the fuck cares what any critics say? Vidya critics or movie critics, they're all pretentious assholes who are out of touch with their audiences.
>>340753762
I fucking hate neo-/v/.
>>340754340
go watch dark knight, the critically acclaimed goat movie with heath ledger, cuts everywhere
>>340754701
idk why people trust critics.
2 criticism I keep seeing from critics is.
>Green vs Brown orcs is racist!
>Not enough women on screen!
>>340754209
I really really don't understand what's with the general canon of gul'dan having huge spikes coming out of his back.
like what, the fact that he's glowing green and sucking the life out of everything is not evil enough?
>>340754078
I can believe that Khadgar became the meme man we know in Draenor and Legion.
Medivh should have been played more Eccentric like David Bowie in Labyrinth.
>>340748821
What the hell kind of theaters have those? That's a serious question.
>>340754435
I am seeing it tonight because my brother is making me go with him.
I expect a boring movie, with many scenes with bad effects, but everyone will say is decent regardless of the shit.
>>340754983
the guy was overacting every single line, what more do you want?
>>340754435
because the burgers agree with the critics
10m domestic
>>340753762
Could only watch the thing for 10 minutes.
random xd
>>340754942
What?
What critcs said either of those two things There are loads of random women orcs and human guards randomly dumped into scenes that character with the most screen time is a female.....
>>340754878
Exactly, all they can do is yell 'DURRR, YOU KNOW DA RULES XD' and cream themselves until someone 'streams' it by posting this 2 minute long webm with no sound
doesn't matter Overwatch is picking up the slack
>In theater, talking to friend about Dark Age of Camelot for some reason
>Trying to remember the names of the realms
>"Was it Albion?"
>ACSHUALLY
>Guy behind us talks like I'm a retard and says I'm thinking of alliance
>Tell him it isn't, but he insists as if I'm talking about the shitty MMO he plays and not the shitty MMO I played as a kid
Fucking WoW nerds. The movie was okay, I guess.
>>340755167
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/10/11893004/warcraft-review-movie-orcs-humans
ctrl + f this : "then completely snubs his daughter. It’s hilarious"
Everything from that point on is complaining about lack of women
>>340755347
nice click bait you got there bud
I went with a couple friends who have never played the game but were interested in the lore due to Hearthstone
The pacing is just WAY too fast, if those 40 minutes were in I'm sure it would have helped lots, but regardless of this, we all really enjoyed the film despite its shortcomings.
>>340740721
Well, it's their own fault.
Everyone wanted a CGI movie from them, but all we got was this tacky-looking live action trash instead.
>>340755271
you were thinking of rubi-ka you stupid fuck
Went to see the movie, it's really not bad and that's coming from someone who has never played any of the Warcraft games. One or two of the actors are pretty bad but the main guy actually makes it.
People are giving it a bad rap because of the trailers, which is retarded since if they had more in the trailers the story would be pretty much already revealed much like Dawn of Justice.
Go see it yourself and make your mind up. There's even some good copies online.
>>340742163
Only about 25% of the Chink box office gets out of China, so maybe.
It's not THAT bad to be honest. There's some bad acting that's pretty unfortunate, but I feel like the movie could be salvaged with a directors cut thay fixes some of the editing problems and gives the story time to breathe/develop some of the characters.
This film actually has the opposite problem most big movies have imo, the script is TOO tight. Would have benefited alot from slowing down a bit so that the audience could really take in the world.
>>340740721
i usually make a point to see obviously bad movies in theaters because i'm just that kind of guy. but i won't be for this one.
unless i can use the free month of warcraft on an existing account. can i do that?
Problem is, the movie takes itself way too seriously when it's not good enough to pull it off, so it ends up being cringeworthy.
Also, the actors are fucking horrible, you can almost tell how uncomfortable they were filming this.
>>340740721
chinkies and koreans are selling out like crazy, Blizzard will make bank on this and all the sequels.
B-list actors and cheap ass CGI doesn't cost too much.
>>340758325
>sequels
They'll grab the money and run if they are smart.
>>340754972
The more he is using the fel magic the more corrupt he becomes, so I guess he is overdosing himself with it.
>>340751153
>White
they're brown tho
>>340741853
>the visuals are bad meme
How does it feel to be borderline retarded?
>>340746349
I do have to say though, that sequence is the worst CGI in the movie. Other than that one part, the CGI is great.
Are orcs in the movie noble misunderstood dindus?
>>340759248
They're savage fucks except a few.
>>340759147
REALER THAN REAL LIFE
>set in the first war
>no archers
Did ANYONE play on staff play Orcs and Humans?
>>340759289
Holy fuck, is literally Sonic in this movie? There are people praising this?
>>340759405
It's pure kino anon.
>>340750189
except it doesnt
nearly every idea brought up in the movie (aside from draenei) is explained enough to make sense in the scope of the movie.
im just convinced 90% of the people that saw the movie are retarded and i havent even played warcraft
So lets get /v/ educated opinion:
Would Warcraft the movie have done better if it were pure fanservice for warcraft fans, or the tolkien-light stuff the movie actually is?
>>340749015
SOMEBODY
>>340748494
>anti battleborne shills
Just accept that gearbox is shit and stillborne will most likely end up as the biggest blunder of 2016 for gaming.
>>340745604
Go watch the clips from the unreleased point and click Warcraft game. That is all the animation you ever need.
>>340751153
That Orc Looks so fucking bored.
>>340759720
I think they should have just done nothing.
Videogame movies are always fucking terrible.
>>340759793
ONCE
>Blizzard is going to lose so much money
Lmao
>>340759720
It would have been better had it paced itself and not gone for the really shitty greenscreen.
>>340750409
>giving him not one, not two, but three (yous)
and you don't see why it's funny to piss off rabid fans of a shit studio? lol
>>340751129
You know Pacific Rim 2 almost didn't happen right? It did not do well on its initial release and only did well due to China.
hopefully we get to see tyrande in the third movie
>>340751751
TWELVE YEARS
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China is not only going to save it, it's going to fund a trilogy.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=warcraft.htm
This isn't a movie for gaijin.
>>340751129
Terminator Genisys made 410 million on a 155 million budget and the trilogy it was supposed to start is cancelled.
TASM2 made 750 million on a 250 million budget and the franchise was cancelled.
No one really knows what happens behind the scenes regarding box office.
>>340761229
>China likes it
Proof that it's nothing but trash.
>>340759289
Is it normal for cg backgrounds to look so obviously fake?
How are so many people saying it looks good?
Am I going fucking crazy?
>>340761275
Marketing budgets in this day and age are outrageously bloated, that's what happens.
Remember, Box Office Mojo and shit like that is listing the production budget, not the grand total budget. Same reason why games can sell millions of copies and still be disappointing in revenue.
>>340761527
No, the CGI is just fucking awful.
They spent most of the budget on the Orc faces, and they probably had to hire a cheap korean studio to make the rest of the CGI.
>>340749015
LOOK AT THIS DUDE
>>340749015
BRUH
>>340748494
You must be 18+ to eat there
>elitist blizzdrones assblasted that people found the story was rushed and no character was rememberable and any plot was unexplained
>'AS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS MOVIE'S LORE BEFORE IT CAME OUT ALL OF YOU ARE RETARDS FOR NOT KNOWING IT AND IT WAS FINE'
Might as well be a YouTube series for dedicated fans then an acuall movie. I'm glad the theater was dead and it shows in the sales so Blizzard just releases it in some video series.
>>340759441
>kino
kys
>>340751751
>Boyhood
What's wrong with the movie? I watched it and in my opinion it was a bit boring
>>340740721
reports show...
>~30+million US on weekend of 6/10
>200-250 million China
>needs 500million to break even
so u tell me.
>>340749943
Dear god, I was hoping the rest of the fights would look like this. By far the superior mecha.
>>340761229
>gaijin
That's Japanese.
What's the Chinese term for foreigner anyway?
>>340766259
Okay, Wikipedia tells me it's 外國人 (which is pretty much the same as the Japanese 外国人), but how do you read that?
I work at a theatre and i can say people like it. As always you fags go off of muh movie reviews go see the thing for yourself. at carmike from 400pm-530pm tickets are 5.75 plus tax
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>>340754209
>tooth piercings
>>340759441
Christ.
I could not physically endure watching that.
