>"Someone change to healer!"
what do they mean by this?
>Faggot picks Zenyatta immediately
>Bitches the entire time about how there's no other healer
>First point gets taken
>"This is a fucking waste of my time"
>Ragequits instead of switching to one of the good healers
>I switch to Lucio, team wins
i honestly have no idea
even if i did its wrong
>have perfect 2 tank, 2 heals, 2 dps set up
>some faggot retard in chat: DURR WE NEED MORE DPS
>guy instantlocks Genji for payload attack
>we lose
>"gg no tank no healer noob team"
If someone picks a tank and we need a support, I will support, and vice versa.
If entire team picks dps and says "we need tank and heals!", I just pick another dps. If we're going to lose, I may as well try to have fun.
>>340714742
The people who came over from league of legends.
>3 people go widomaker
>they argue on who to switch
>>340714990
Why should any of them switch?
My friends and I run three widowmakers and two tracers and we win 9.5/10 games.
They're smart enough to see what the team needs, but selfish enough to expect someone else to do it so they can play Widowmaker/McCree
>>340714742
>control point attack
>hanzo, widowmaker, two genji, one roadhog, me (lucio)
>actually capture first point relatively quickly
>second point
>genjis doing fucking nothing
>snipers doing fucking nothing
>welp it's up to me and this roadhog I guess
>roadhog quits halfway through
>lose miserably
>"good team comp"
>"fuck off"
>"you mad"
>Junkrat
>absolutely WIPE the other team constantly
>they never fucking learn and just keep running right into the beartrap over and over
>just keep lobbing grenades down the hallway
>they never go another route but try to "organize" against me a few times
>play of the game is me destroying the entire team as they cram all of their members into the tiniest smallest area and die on my bear trap + grenades lobbed down there
So it's confirmed that Junkrat is the Soldier of Overwatch, right?
>>340713872
>GUYS WE NEED A HEALER
>LVL 17 IS THE LAST GUY TO PICK A HERO
>HE FUCKING PICKS GENJI
>NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO CHANGE WHEN IN REINHARDT
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
WHY ARE GENJI PLAYERS THE WORST KIND OF FAGS
>>340713872
What did you people expect it's a blizzard games, and blizzard fans are a bunch of moronic fuckheads.
>That guy that complains about the rest of the team being shit while contributing the least and dying most
>He ragequits, someone else fills his spot, and we win easily
Why is this scenario so common
>>340713872
Stop being a worthless faggot and pick a healer.
>>340714990
>same thing happened to me
>the entire team then wants to go sniper
>Payload is almost at your base
>you have a gold medal with 1 elimination
I main Mercy. Never a PotG, thats always some junkrat/edgehead triple-kill, but I get epic commendations out the ass.
>>340714253
Clearly, your team needed you as a Lucio rather than whatever else you were playing. You should have switched in the first place.
>>340715609
>high skill ceiling
>>340715609
Only good Winston skin. How long until trading? Items won't have the same effect on the community and longevity of the game if you can't trade them and some real monetary value behind them. Hat Jews are the #1 reason CSGO and TF2 are still around, no amount of competitive esports autists will keep them afloat compared to the power of greed and capitalism.
>"we doing double Lucio?"
>"haha nah I'll get off"
>"nah it's all right, won as him last round, I'll go Mercy"
>"neat, thanks"
More people need to play support, switch characters, and/or just have fun.
>>340715506
>about to pick healer because we have none
>suddenly some dickhead has the fucking nerve to tell me how to play and who I should pick
>pick Genji out of spite
>>340715506
>get in game
>see some level 40+ dude insta-lock genji within half a second
>don't even need to look up his profile to know that he has 1000hours played of genji and 0 hours of any other character in the game
I always get stuck playing Support because nobody else does and I feel bad about it.
At the same time Lucio is fucking boring beyond wall riding and Zenyatta is rather situational and I don't enjoy Mercy or Symmetra.
Just shit my fuck up.
>>340716021
>damage boosting a 76 when hes full health and healing when not full
>starts bitching at me when he dies in 2 seconds to a lot of powerful attacks
why were the games before lvl 30 so fun and nice, but after, everyone is just a rude asshole
>get into game
>attack
>play bastion
>"UH BRUH DONT PLAY BASTION ON ATTACK HE IS A DEFENSIVE PLAYER"
>*activate troll mode*
>end of the game later 3 gold stars, two silvers.
>he shitposts chat then leaves
Best game of the day
>>340716204
>nearly 10 hours as Symmetra
>pick support and defense when there are none
I'm glad I don't mind being a bitch, cause solo queuing just makes me hate pubbies.
>>340715831
It's true though, anybody can play widowmaker with all her mechanics in mind, but the actual limit is as good as your aim and reactions are.
>>340716204
Lucio has the be the funnest healer.
>Get PotG with Lucio
>On Ilios, see Reaper's smoke cloud teleporting in
>With his back to the sheer drop
>Wait, blast him off
>Run inside, kill Tracer and someone else by skating back and forth and shooting erratically
>Cap point
Lucio's rad as hell, man
>>340715897
Nobody wants Overwatch to turn into the cancer that is TF2 trading faggotry.
>>340716204
Play Zenyatta as DPS
>>340716430
Blizzard does
>Be Mercy
>Notice my team has two widowmakers and a hanzo for some reason
>Pull out my pistol and don't bother healing anyone the rest of the match
>They all cry for heals
>>340716430
Then it'll be dead before the year is up.
>>340716338
>>*activate troll mode*
Fuck off
>>340713872
You're someone.
>>340715451
Nah, that's my soldier who just decimates other teams. Especially "Fiyer in tha hole!" Rocket to nonexistent tire.
Soldier is the soldier of Overwatch.
>>340715897
Hat jews also ruined TF2 and any integrity it once had, so no.
>>340713872
They mean that you'll probably lose. If this you see this phrase or something about telling people to change hero in chat, you'll lose.
I guarantee it.
>>340716621
No, Robin Walker ruined TF2 and any integrity it once had. Hat Jews just took advantage of it.
>>340715205
Things that never happen for $400 Alex
I play alot of support, what irks me is the one guy that spams need healing when I am nowhere near them, they are behind enemy lines and then complains about getting no healing.
When I'm playing Mercy on your team and you are not getting healing/buffs then it's because I don't think you are as effective as other team members.
Give your support a reason to to support you.
>>340713872
It means they themselves don't want to be a healer and insist on someone else taking the burden.
>>340713872
>"what do you mean no? you was doing a good job last time. just pick the healer already."
>now i'm expected to be healer nearly everytime
>they'll drop me if i refuse and go find someone else
don't fall for it.
don't be me.
>>340716961
Sounds like they aren't really your friends
>>340715373
What is the story behind this image?
>>340716751
>Robin Walker
Who?
>>340716558
Did i trigger you fuccboi?
I just wanted to work with Reinhardt to break the first point, btw, left that out.
>>340713872
>tfw your Reinhardt compliments your healing
>enter game
>three idiots choose genji
>since i already know we're gonna lose the game I might as well have fun
>pick torb
>guy on my team is constantly cursing and saying that everybody is shit and useless
>he's playing Hanzo
>can't aim, keeps getting kills by the enemy team Hanzo
>literally everybody in the game is laughing at him
>>340713872
>get bored of the same old comps every match
>pick torb every time regardless of the map or team comp
>"torb please switch"
>"torb can you go tank"
>"torb can you go healer"
>never switch
>havefun
I'm not going to pay attention to the 'trinity' in this game until they had more tanks and supports or make more of the current ones viable
As it is now reinhardt is the only real tank and lucio and mercy are the only real supports. All 3 are boring as fuck to me so I have no intention of playing those roles
It sounds like a douche thing to do but submitting to the meta is only going to make other players more likely to submit to it as well which is not healthy for this game. Does anyone really want to limit themselves to a small pool of meta heroes because that's what the pros/community consider to be the best picks?
That said, torb is fun as fuck, I can't tell you how many flanks I've ruined because a turret I left behind caught someone off guard, and if there's tons of carnage around you you can keep your team alive by constantly throwing armor at them.
>>340717314
>btw
Fuck off.
>>340713872
In pugs theres a delicate balance between 3 forces.
1. People who play a certain role often enough to usualy be useful with that role, but will switch if they need to .
2. People who don't wanna switch, regardless of if they're good or not.
3. People trying to improve an least-played character to get more versatile.
Overwatch it at its best when you have a 6 man and can start to learn to adapt to the enemy team. Cus if you get shit on there's no excuse.
>>340716548
Might as well AFK, you're just as bad as them.
Fight to your last breath and 1v4 if you have to. Show dominance.
>>340716285
People who are playing for fun, who haven't hit a higher level yet. Then people who are playing because MUH COMPETITIVE GAME UHH GOTTA WIN BIG MONEY BIG PRIZES!
>>340716621
>>340716751
i thought what killed TF2 was vavle just adding in every single hat with no oversight on file limits that made the game run like ass even on good rigs
>entire team chooses widowmaker
Oops, you guys misspelled bastion and the dwarf. It's the only 2 heroes anyone ever chooses and you're lying if you say otherwise. (junkrat is also broken so is chosen a lot)
>>340717446
Awwah, did i trigger you again senfam?
>i bet you were the sperglord in the game, huh? I doubt it but shit, that would be funny.
>>340717964
More like valve only focusing on hats and really bad unfun gamemodes focused around hats.
>"Reinhardt is the only tank"
>>340718021
>OMG THIRD TEAM
>play mvm
>it's just red humans vs. blu robots
>>340718021
that too. I remember quitting tf2 for good in 2012 when they wanted me to buy a jew pass in order to play a PVE mode
>>340718030
Roadhog spotted.
>>340715897
>trading in an FPS
Fuck no that shit ruins games
Is this game literally turrets vs. turrets?
>acting condescending to hide the fact you'll be thinking of this encounter all night
Whatever, kid.
>>340718087Zarya and D.va actually
>>340717342
LOL sike. You mean everyone chooses torb so 1 person wants to have fun and chooses genji.
>>340717342
I think you're lying there buddy.
>>340718234
Can gengi reflect turret bullets? Never seen it so im going with no.
He cant reflect winstons gun which is absolutely halarious.
>>340718030
>everyone expects D.Va to tank the same way as Reinhardt
>>340718212
Reinhardt is the only tank, Zarya is a heavy DPS/Support combo and D.va is just an annoying piece of shit that falls somewhere inbetween the role of Roadhog and Winston and doesn't actually do much.
>>340718149
At skills levels above extremely shit almost nobody picks them because it's ridiculously easy to kill them with snipers, pharah, genji, coordinated fire or just good play.
>>340717342
Fun with the most broken and op hero? k, yeah have "fun" being like everyone else.
How much practice with Widowmaker do I need to git gud? I miss so badly at times while all the other Snipers are no-scoping me.
>>340718407
Lvl 97, people still only choosing torb and bastion, which lvl do they stop?
>>340718514
She's 1 of the heroes that takes a lot of skill, practice hitting moving targets, I got good at it.
>>340718524
Level is not a skill indicator, the point he was making is that Torb and Bastion are utterly useless against good players.
>>340718636
sike,
>>340718636
Torb is actually much more useful than Bastion because his own primary gun is really good. The turret is much more for distracting fire.
>Gibraltar defense
>go reinhardt
>rest of team consists of snipers and a zenyatta
>enemy team just has to kill me and has unopposed payload movement for the entirety of the game
>can't aim
>can't make snap decisions
>0 reaction time
>play as lucio and still average 3 gold medals a game
thank god for support
>>340714253
You are an asshole. zenyatta is an off support, you are SUPPOSED to have him with another support like lucio. Why do people even play this game if they can't into basic comp
>>340718593
Thanks fampai.
>>340718878
He's just fun overall.
Does any other Lucio player skate the central point in Lillian Tower like I do?
>>340715897
anon blizzard didnt even put trading option is Hearthstone. That's right, a CARD GAME. And since lootbox here function like card packs (same rarity system) just forget about trading. Hell, even in Diablo 3 you cant trade. What the fuck blizzard, what the fuck.
>>340718810
>First pick Zenyatta
>Hanzo
>Widowmaker
>Genji
>Torbjorn
>Bastion
Everyone can go fuck themselves.
>>340718810
>Any defensive side without a Mercy
Not even worth staying in the game, back to the queue.
>>340713872
That you are an idiot.
>2 widows on attack
>They keep running into enemy lines
>Die over and over
>Bitch about lack of heals in chat
>Ask one of them to swap to another hero
>"Widowmaker is my main"
.
Being Mercy is suffering.
>>340716858
And now for the finale jeopardy: This hero isn't as good as you think they are.
>>340719208
What is Mercy?
>>340718913
zenyatta is a waste of a slot. the match was better off without him
>>340719208
D.Va
My CoD trained skills of ambushing and running around mean nothing if her shotguns just shoot confetti, even at point blank.
Had a painful game earlier. Our team on a payload attack map:
>Be me, Lucio
>Reinhardt
>Pharaoh
>Reaper
>Benji
>Tracer
The match consisted of me and rein hopelessly trying to push the cart while the rest of the team "flanked". We lost so hard.
>>340716621
How so? Im genuinely curious.
>>340719058
symmetra is actually better on defense.
>>340718636
I have seen decent bastions do well. His scout mode is suprisingly good. He directly counters rhienheart.
>just a minute ago
>hollywood offense
>30 seconds remaining
>2 widows on our team
>me as pharah and mercy announce ults and push
>we wipe their team just the two of us
>cant hold the point alone for the 2nd wave and die
>we lose in overtime
>one widow says "shit team"
When will widow get nerfed so shitters stop playing her?
>be on attack
>pick lucio cuz no healer
>fag picks mercy
>guess I'll pick symmetra then
>fag cries for me to "GO BACK LUCIO"
>tell him no
>hi quits with his buttbuddy he probably was going to stick to the whole time because he's a useless piece of shit
>win easily without him with no healer
>>340719335
I really hope I never play with you
How do I into Hanzo? I can't hit anything with him.
>>340719383
I like Symmetra, but it's both disheartening and an achievement when the enemy team starts hunting your Turrets.
>>340713872
Why don't they introduce some benefits for playing healers and tanks? Like every 3-4 games you play as one, you get an extra loot box?
Currently when I'm doing a solo queue I have to heal or tank in almost every game. I don't mind doing it from time to time but it just gets fucking boring.
>>340719447
wont have to. zenyatta shitters get MMRd into the same matches as the other wasted slots like dva and symmetra
>>340719531
literally just keep spamming arrows in the general direction of the enemy team.
>>340718913
>>340719447
Zenyatta is garbage.
Just because he does decent headshot damage, and can shred tanks, doesn't actually mean he's useful, since fucking everyone does decent headshot damage save Lucio, and half the cast of character shreds tanks.
>>340719563
Her weapon is suprisingly deadly, and her teleporter can keep more people at the front than mercy ever can with her ult.
Her turrets are weak and a mere annoyance, but cleverly placed turrets can net you some assists.
>>340719397
>be on attack
>pick Symmetra
Is there something I don't know or is that just fucking retarded?
>>340719615
The benefit is that you just raised your team's chances to win by a significant margin.
>switch to healer!
>i go zenyatta
fuck off gaywads, stop taking the game so seriously
go join an e-team or whatever you queers call it
I fucking love Symmetra on defense
>>340719682
She deals damage, gives shields, and has a teleporter. Have you never gone Torb on offense, you fucking shitter?
>>340719709
Sure, but most people prefer playing damage dealers, me included. If there were benefits for playing characters that most people find more boring, then perhaps everyone would be encouraged to pick them from time to time, making the game more fun for everyone.
>>340719682
I spam Turrets on the payload. Messes up Genji's and melee scrubs.
OVERWATCH FAGS LEAVE TO /VG/
NOOOOOWWWWWWW
SHOOO, SCRAM, SKEDADDLE!
>>340719682
to be fair, the defenders had two to three useless people with bastion and reinhardt and occasionally mercy camping in some corner which i could easily fuck up with her secondary attack because they simply wouldn't move.
>>340719862
Torb on offence is halarious, just push with your team and shit out turrets, dont even need to upgrade them.
Who cares if they die.
>>340719862
No, I like winning.
>>340719828
A symmetry portal can be so useful and even win games, im glad one of my friends plays her a lot on defense.
>>340719383
Symmetra is not a support and most certainly not a healer, she is a walking teleporter and that's it. Mercy+Sym is a nice combination but by no means is a solo Sym ever a good idea on defense.
>>340713872
I just don't pick healer because I'm not gay or a girl.
I wouldn't mind having a healslut though, Flying around as pharah is comfy as fuck.
>>340720113
>Symmetra is not a support and most certainly not a healer, she is a walking teleporter and that's it
Not a support? But you just said it yourself, she provides a teleporter
and sentries
and shielding
and she fuck people up in 1v1
Sounds like a support, with spider-like tactics of sentry+beam
>>340719973
I still have Mercy pics to dump.
>>340719973
>I don't know how boards work
This isn't a general. It doesn't belong on /vg/
This is a (non general) video game thread. It belongs on /v/
>>340719563
>Winston jumps in, spins his camera around wildly and kills all turrets in 0.25 seconds
>>340714253
funny how fags expect so much from Zenyatta when he does more damage support than healer.
>>340713872
>"someone pls go support
>pubby mcnigger: "ok"
>puggy mcnigger has changed to symmetra (was genji)
>>340713872
I'll repost since its relevant here anyways:
>Pick widow
>People in chat telling me to switch
>Widow is what I'm very good with, so no I wont
Its easy guys, if something upset you, go ahead an switch. Not only is this unranked, but I dont know you, so I'll play what I,m good with, and actually contribute this way. I wont take a healer that I never touched just to fill a role I will half-ass.
>>340720269
The problem is that she doesn't heal (other than the pitiful shield regeneration), so she provides no sustain, which makes people think she's not support. Just like how people think anyone but Reinhardt is not a tank because they don't have a gigantic shield.
To be honest at the moment she might as well be labeled Defense, but she can fit in both.
>>340720593
>enemy team has junkrat
>destroys turrets by accident
>>340720068
Symmetra is very hard to play against a good team since they'll send a Genji or Tracer to destroy your teleporter every time it's up.
>>340719397
double healer is perfectly good you mongoloid
mercy + lucio ( constant speed boost/ passive healing + reviving ftw )
lucio + zeny ( make the robot ass less squishy and able to move further in the battlefield and debuff big fat fuck )
mercy + zeny ( same )
you just need a good team and not 4 genji with that.
>>340720765
The only Tank I wouldn't call a tank is Roadhog, but that has nothing to do with "no shield" and more to do with "no way of taking damage for teammates other than literally getting in the way of attacks" - he's more of a tanky DPS with some CC than an actual tank
>>340720864
Tracer dies nearly instantly to 4+ turrets even if she hits rewind
>>340720269
She's a Defense hero, not much different than Torb. Winning any game without a hero that can heal is almost impossible, winning defense without one is really not going to happen unless the attackers are multiple skill tiers below the defenders.
Overwatch reminded me why I dislike team games
I quit LoL back in S2 for similar reasons
I'd be more inclined to play it if Ranked doesn't match me with premades like quickplay does
>>340713872
That you need to go fast, heal fast and push people into holesAND BREAK IT DOWN
>>340720891
Zenyatta is only good if your team also has a symettra and toblerone who give you shields + armor, or if the enemy widowmaker/pharah/tracer is unreasonably shit
>>340719828
>be symmetra on the last of anubis
>everyone tell me to switch
>ambush every fag with my poo gun aka the indian backburner
>potg
never made my team so mad in the chat
>>340719158
>"Widowmaker is my main"
>I don't care, we need offense
There problem solved
>>340720921
Roadhog should have his own category - "the best".
>best offense
>best defence
>best support
>most fun
>most fair
>>340721007
Only 6 turrets will ever kill a Tracer instantly and even then, it's nothing more than a one death sucker punch since she knows where it is now and can double blink through it.
>>340721086
>when your team is so trash you get 5 golds as lucio
Healers are nowhere near as necessary as they pretend to be especially mercy who can't do anything solo. Half the characters have self heal function so they make a healer useless for them. The others can just find the medkits every two steps to heal themselves. A competent team can easily go without a healer and a shit team won't be carried by a healer. If its a shit team that doesn't have a healer I would rather go rienhardt or zarya to prevent damage and push the objective.
lucio can do it all. what an amazing hero
>>340721146
Symmetra is literally the best defender on anubis
>>340721216
>tf2 fags that say this game has no advanced movement
I kek everytime
>>340721121
If the team talk and protect each other it's good enough for me, I can revive him/boost his defense if something bad happen. An offensive zenyatta with a good team is terrific.
>>340721209
>Half the characters have self heal function
More like 2
>>340721216
What the fuck
>>340721154
>OffenSe
>DefenCe
Why you do dis?
>>340721154
best ulti dispenser for the ennemy team.
Hanzo build his assdragon in 10 seconds because of this fat fuck.
>>340721206
>3k dmg
>15 elim
>Gold
kek
>>340721463
To make you mad
;^)
>>340714990
>Argue that I'll go tank if one of those faggots switches to heal
>No response
>Said fuck it and bailed
>>340721463
not everyone is a native english speaker.
what happened to it saving your plays of the game? when mine disappeared I assumed they just cleared them out occasionally to free up space but I had two today with reinhardt I was wanting to see again/possibly save
>>340721512
My point exactly
Love that attempted forced 50% win rate
>>340721409
Super-powered rollerskates
>>340721569
I'm not saying it's wrong, both spellings are correct. It's just that he used the American spelling for one word and the UK spelling for the other.
>>340721348
>jump on wall to automatically ride
>you just have to jump to another surface to reset the move (it last 3 seconds )
>advanced
>>340721409
Lucio's wallride is seriously underrated
>>340720864
>>340721175
Symmetra is a soft counter to Tracers and Genjis, Just defend your shit yourself instead of thinking orb harass is doing anything against anyone that isnt a retarded Reinhardt
>>340719828
>join a game in progress
>pick symmetra
>we are at the last checkpoint
>block off the side room so they can't duck in there to avoid our fire
>get like 10 kills from weak people going in there or people focusing turrets as I right them
>put a transporter in the room opposite it
>get team wiped by a great push from the enemy
>they push the payload past that room but don't see the teleporter
>my entire team respawns uses the teleporter and fucks them in the ass
>get every vote on my team for having the teleporter up right there
Man it feels good to play symmetra
She is just such an underrated character and I have shut down so many defense matches with her
>get put into a game that loses in less than 10 seconds
if you aren't in the game for at least a minute it shouldn't count against you
>>340715716
>You're playing a non offense class.
>You're playing Lucio.
>>340721830
Symmetra counters every flanker not just Tracer and Genji. You will always be forced to focus on destroying her turrets first before doing anything and then get fucked because you triggered the alarm.
Also one thing I thought about is why not make Genji invisible to Widowmakers Ultimate? He's a Ninja after all and should be the only one able to sneak past enemies without noticing even with Wallhacks on.
>play as genji
>be a constant thorn on the side of the enemy team
>eliminations left and right, as they can't get rid off me.
>match still comes really close, especially when two enemy players start using McRees.
>literally few seconds from them winning, I charge in, reflect their bs revolver shots, use my ultimate, and chop up the mcrees and their mercy, and wound their roadhog rather heavily allowing my team mates to push the survivors away from the payload for the crucial 10 seconds we needed.
>we win by the skin of our necks.
>play of the game goes to that god damn dwarf and his faggy turret.
It wasn't even anything particularly impressive. Just his turret blowing few guys up as he molten cored and that's it. Pissed me off like hell. I was practically carrying our fucking team.
>>340721830
If the enemy team has a competent Tracer/Genji, you'll be spending all of your time defending your teleporter and even then it's likely to be destroyed in most maps.
>mfw got the achievement for 4 destroyed teleporters just yesterday
The Symmetra must have been fuming.
>>340721872
Technically it doesn't, or rather it didn't.
In the closed beta the stats screen showed your actual Win/Loss figures up at the top, unfortunately the babies whined that it was hurting their feelings so they took away the Loss stat and replaced it by just showing your Wins. They also had it set so that if you joined an in progress game via backfilling it was impossible for that game to count as a loss, it was only possible to get a win. The problem? Instead of showing straight up Wins/Losses the game now shows Wins and Games Played in your stats screen, where before backfilling a game meant you would never get a LOSS for it in the current setup backfilling still counts as a GAME PLAYED.
So yeah, it used to not be a loss but now it is because they forgot to fix it when they catered to retards.
>>340722007
I always feel sad when I end up clearing a team out as Genji for a game winning push but don't get any cards. Makes me feel like no one realized what I did.
:(
>>340721216
That's the stuff
How do you guys deal with the MMR system in games like this?
It's pretty hard to tell whether or not I'm improving when my win rate is always going to float around 50%.
>>340721951
the only question is WHY THE FUCKING ENTIRE TEAM CAN USE WIDOW ULTIMATE FOR FUCK SAKE WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>340721367
>mei
>bastion
>tracer
>soldier 76
>roadhog
>D.Va's mech relaunches with full hp
>reaper gets heals off kill
>zarya has shields that regen half her HP
>same for zenyatta and symmetra
>torbjorn can give himself and others 75 HP
>winston receives full hp when entering his ult and returns to 500 if he doesn't lose more than half
>>340721743
Spotted the tf2 fag
:^)
Its like spot the vegan but vidya related
>>340722158
Same here man.
I guess that people just assume that Genji player=shit, because most Genjis honestly are rather bad.
Genji is hard to use effectively, but if you know what you are doing, you can be one of the most effective harassment heroes in the game, and your ultimate allows you to chop up pretty much anybody in seconds.
>>340722007
>>340722158
>Genji ultimate
>impressive
yeah, you can two shot everything with a blade that should be labelled as a sniper weapon since you can hit something standing at 202051 billions kilometers from you. And every kill reset your dash so you go at sonic speed.
>>340722552
Genji's ultimate does nothing for his survivability though, so you can still get instagibbed by Roadhogs, Junkrats, Hanzos, etc.
One of the first things to learn as a Genji is when to ult.
>>340722646
yeah cause it's so hard to flank with a character who can double jump and walljump without making any noises.
Also people in pub are generally retarded and never fucking look behind, even when I mercy I have to take care of the reaper/mcreeeeee myself. I don't know, maybe the THUMP THUMP THUMP they made when they walk isn't fucking loud enough for my retarded team.
If you're playing Pharah and you don't get a card at the end of the game for direct rocket hits, fucking why are you even playing her because you're absolutely useless.
>>340722861
>yeah cause it's so hard to flank
Won't save you if no one is distracting the enemy team since they tend to all focus you as soon as you scream
RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE
>>340723036
All you have to do is to wait for them to start fighting before jumping in from above, your team doesn't even need to be good.
>>340722925
That's a dumb way to see it.
I've seen cards for 30-40 rockets. That's roughly my average.
>>340713872
I stopped playing the game because every single one there would be no fucking tank or healer, it had to be me EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME or we have none and lose
Fuck the community
I brought the vigilante mcree skin and a few boxes later i got it as a duplicate, just kill me now
>>340723631
>tfw you're a medic main on tf2 and love healing
>people never spit on you for having a main since basically no one want to play mercy
>>340713872
Probably that they're sick of /v/ taking stale ass /tv/ memes and using them every single fucking day
>>340722552
Anything Genji can do is far more impressive than what that gay Swedish dwarf can do.
>>340724234
>having to compare yourself with the fucking afk dwarf to shine
>>340713872
It means
>Ive sucked a million dicks and dont know how to avoid getting shot
>>340718335
He can but the turret's ROF is so low it's not worth doing most of the time.
I hope they make it so you cannot pick 2 of the same hero, it's fucking annoying playing with 2 widowmakers or 2 genjis
>>340720921
I'd also call D.Va not a tank since her headshot box is so large even enemy supports can solo you with ease. Not to mention revive doesn't work on her mech.
>>340719737
>defence
>3 junkrats, know this is gonna be awful, pick curry support
>All of them are fucking terrible, no surprise
>Soloing tanks myself because I can actually hit them with my balls unlike these shitters
>"Anon we need healing not teleport!"
>"Anon switch to heal!"
>"Anon please carry me because I can't aim for shit!"
>Switch to Torb just to annoy them
>"We lost because Anon wouldn't play as team."
>Not a single junkrat was on the cards at the end.
I'm not sure how healing would fix their piss poor aim.
>get three wallriding killing blows as Lucio in one match
easily the most bullshit achievement in the game
>>340725860
doesn't memeing them off the edge with your secondary count? wait until koth in moonland and get them as they cross the bridge to reach the middle area. you can slide across the wall right by there.
>>340717125
it's an owl
>>340725384
but 2 Winston's can be fun
>get in attack on ruski map
>pick Mercy
>two people go Winston
>proceed to chimp out on the other team
>win instantly
was a blast
>>340726409
>not 12 winstons
>>340726472
He's not looking for a Detroit simulator.
>>340726057
Yeah but you have to be wallriding when they actually die too
>>340726549
looooool
>>340726553
It wouldn't be so bad if the wall riding mechanic wasn't so fiddly. The maps have way too much geometry. You get caught up everywhere.
>>340721951
>Hanamura
>attacking
>see Symmetra on enemy team
>switch to Zarya
>enter cap full of turrets
>shield self
>immediately max damage boost
>friendly mercy switching between healing and damage boost
>steamroll the defenders
I pick Tor wherever people ask for support. Tor is secretly the best support character
>>340716375
>aim shoot
WooooooW
It's funny how I always meet the same widows. They never play differently or better than others they are all mostly the same skill level. Kind of nice aim but that's not hard to do. Because 1shot = kill and if not they just shoot another one right after it. The Skill ceiling for her is pretty much zero.
WHO
THE FUCK
CARES
Blizzard tried to create "interesting" healers, but then forgot that each hero can only have a maximum of three abilities.
This game's "in depth" character balance is a trainwreck, because none of the characters have enough depth to support it.
And not even one of them takes any amount of skill. Some are actually anti-skill.
>>340727536
Four abilities, actually.
>shift
>E
>ult
>alt-fire
>>340727536
>maximum of three abilities
>shift
>e
>right click
>q
>secondary weapons (e.g. Mercy's pistol)
>left click if you want to be really technical
that's six
>>340727783
>abilities
Shooting isn't an ability and neither is changing weapons.
>>340727947
But if you can't shoot, you lack the ability to shoot. Therefore, shooting is an ability.
>>340718913
>CAPITALISING
>SUPPOSED
>comp
Fuck off back to facebook
>>340727947
Alright, ignoring Mercy's pistol/2nd weapon:
>Heal (left click)
>Damage boost (right click)
>Flight (shift)
>Resurrect (Q)
4 right there. But wait, there's more, if we include some more contentious abilities:
>Glide (space)
>Melee hit (F)
>Pistol fire (2nd weapon)
That's 7.
>>340718335
>use your amazing ninja reflexes and your ninja sword to reflect LIGHTNING
What the fuck were you expecting
>>340723903
Pharah X Mercy OTP <3
I never have trouble with this sort of thing, people are always filling the empty slots. I guess it helps that I mainly play support unless that spot is taken. I also never read any arguing in the chat or anything.
Is this an American thing? Or maybe at the higher levels of matchmaking?
>>340728359
>Melee hit (F)
>Pistol fire (2nd weapon)
I think you're the first in history who's dumb enough to say these things are abilities in a fucking FPS.
>>340728492
They are though. Mercy's pistol is her damaging ability. How you can't comprehend this just means you're a retard.
>>340728589
You're playing a shooter, shooting is not an ability.
Using abilities however, are and changing your weapon is not a fucking ability either.
>>340728492
You're definitely right. Reinhardt's charge and fire strike aren't abilities, since they do damage. Soldier's rocket isn't an ability either. Or Symettra's charged shot. Or Winston's leap. Or Roadhog's chain. etc. etc. etc.
Also the original post said everyone was capped at 3 abilities, and the even without the Melee and Pistol it's still at 5 abilities - and Mercy doesn't even have an E.
>>340728737
>You're definitely right. Reinhardt's charge and fire strike aren't abilities, since they do damage.
Nice goalposts.
>>340728646
How can this go so over your head? I'm done bro, you're hopeless.
>>340728646
Reinhardt cannot shoot.
>>340713872
>what do they mean by this?
I wish this was a ban-able offense
>>340728492
Plenty of shooters don't have a quick-melee ability, you fucking underaged faggot
>lose 4 out of 5 games
>think everyone I'm playing with sucks
>suddenly realize I'm probably the one that sucks
>>340728840
How can it be so difficult for you to just add a simple filter?
>>340728886
Want to believe it's my team being shitters.
>4 gold medals
>They are being shitters.
>>340729358
King of shit, you're still shit
>Widowmaker is TF2 Sniper on steroids
>faster charge
>no forced unscope
>grappling hook to positioning
>headshot hitboxes even bigger
>smg without switching weapons
>mine on top of this, not a big deal tho
>ult is to SEE THROUGH FUCKING WALLS for not just her, but WHOLE TEAM, ruining potential for any surprise flanking tactics
how did anyone look at this character and say "yes, this is balanced"
>>340729474
Because everyone in the game is OP compaired to TF2
The fucking Demoman has an instant jump and unlimited Ammo
>>340729474
Don't forget that her assault rifle mode is still one of the higher DPS weapons in the game
and even though the mines are basically useless as a weapon, they let you know someone's about to be near you so you can GTFO
>>340729474
It's dumb, Widow with a pocket Mercy literally has no counter other than doing it yourself and hoping your Widow is better.
It's really stupid that Widow and Mercy have the best ultimates in the entire game, but what is even dumber is that they are also the fastest charging ultimates in the game.
>>340729642
Eh, the power disparity between Demoman and Junkrat isn't nearly as big as Sniper/Widow, and overpoweredness on the 1-shot hitscan class has a much bigger effect on the game.
>>340729859
Seriously this. I charged Mercy's ult before the round even hit the 30 second mark. It's way too fast coupled with the fact it recovers everyone to full hp, no matter what.
It should only rez people with a % of their health based on the % mercy completes her ult animation. So, if she does instantly, her teammates rez with like 10 hp.
>>340727351
Better aim = higher skill. That's what a skill ceiling is. Because aiming has such a high potential (up to being on par with an aimbot), that makes the ceiling high.
My rule of thumb is If more than two people instalocks something and one of them bitches about not having X I'm just going to play what I want
>>340729859
Reinhardt.
Widowmaker cannot shoot through his shield. Then all you need to do is have your Soldier/Pharah/Widow/Hanzo/Torbjorn/Genji/Bastion/Mercy shoot back.
Or get a D.Va to fly at them, push Mercy away, and two-shot them. Though admittedly this won't work if she's too far away for the boosters to reach, or if you miss a shot and Widow ziplines away (but D.Va's boosts have a much shorter cooldown than the hook so you should be able to get her anyway, it'll just take longer)
>game mechanics in Overwatch
>ult that can 1-shot entire team without aiming just for being at right place at right time
>ult that can undo a 5-person wipe just for being at the right place at the right time
>ult that is wallhacks for whole team
I was honestly shocked the first time I played Mercy and used her ult. I expected to rez the nearest teammate/the one my crosshair was closest too, but then half my team came back too.
Regardless of how hard it may or may not be to pull off, it just seems stupid to even build in this type of shit. Like, all the skill required to outdm 5/6 players, and the last one can just undo that and be like "lmao no".
>>340730139
If two people on my team pick the same character and start bitching, I always pick the same one they did just to rustle them even more
>Go 6 Soldiers for laughs
>win British map in 3 minutes
It's honestly kinda shocking how effective it is
>someone ELSE go healer
Fixed that for you. The people who shout shit like that are never useful on a team. Guaranteed 100%.
Your k/d is meaningless if you are still losing.
>>340730164
A Dva will get absolutely shredded by a damage amped and healed widow, Dva can't even damage Mercy's heal. Banking on a decent push-off isn't a realistic counter.
Widow isn't going to give a fuck about a reinhardt shield when she's amped, she's just going to do a good job of breaking it to support the rest of her team. Having your entire team shoot at her from across the map through a reinhardt shield isn't a counter because you're going to get cleaned up by the rest of her team.
Like I said, your best counter is to just do it yourself.
>>340730219
That's usually why I play Winston and just hunt down the supportThen my team still loses the 5v5
>>340730130
Everyone had the same aim. It was good but that was it. 80% of the widowplayers have the same skill.
>>340730219
If you don't kill the Mercy first your team fucking deserves to get all their work undone
Seriously the reason they're called "support" is because if you kill them the rest will fall downUnless it's symettra in which case yeah just kill her whenever
>>340730437
>If you don't kill the Mercy first
Typically the enemy team will try to stop you from doing this
>your team fucking deserves to get all their work undone
Disagree fundamentally that this is good competitive balance. It's a Mario Party-tier mechanic.
>>340730437
>Mercy is just sitting back chilling with the Widow being the best combo in the game
>Entire team gets wiped in the fight
>Shift flies in to the dead body and revives them all
It isn't that simple.
>>340730406
>aim
>shoot
>hit
>zoom out
>zoom in
>shoot again if the enemy survived
>mates cry I should pick support
>Pick symmetra
Fuck being a healbitch.
>>340730164
>feel like being a useless piece of shit and pick widowmaker
>entire enemy team is just walking forward behind Reinhardt's shield
>I just can't shoot anyone because they're behind Reinhardt
>they just walk forward and lead the payload to the first point, my team is nowhere to be seen
>>340730607
So get your tracer or reaper to fuck them up
>that one asshole who doesn't pick Lucio
>he is the best healer in the game for not being a dumb TF2 Medic clone
jesus fuck you assholes
>>340730771
Widow can bodyshot a tracer at full health, especially with damage amp. Reaper can't chase the mobility Widow has at all and good luck flanking with her ult and how fast it charges.
>>340713872
>always pick what the team needs over what i want to play
>find the most competent player and pocket heal with some speed heals on other players now and then
>someone else pick a healer even when its not needed, swap hero and start building portals to move team up fast
>dont throw a bitchfit when team fucks up
i enjoy my time with everyone of you fags
>>340719828
>put turrets near to important health packs
>laugh as severely damaged opponents desperately run for them
>shoot ball of death at Reinhardts
>people die behind him
>enemy spawnkills you on Dorado attack
>use the turret exploit on defend
>literally no chance for them to push the payload through the big corner before the last checkpoint
>enjoy their butthurt
She is fun as fuck
>worrying about team comp when all you need is 2 mccrees to guarantee victory
>getting bored with TF2, stupid support-class stacking teammates ruin what could be otherwise fun games
>see this game announced
>forced 6v6
>maybe the smaller team size will make people tend to play more seriously since they can't just disappear into a 12v12 shitfest pub
>play game
>it's actually worse because now if even 1 person is fucking off it's a 17% burden on the team
>tfw there will never be a good class based team shooter
>>340731053
>McCree
>McCree
>Reinhardt
>Widow
>Mercy
>Lucio
You can't even lose.
>>340730910
>i enjoy being everyones bitch
>i enjoy doing what others want me to do
>i'm a real slut
>>340730219
>Ult that takes several hits to kill even a Tracer, has to be aimed with a relatively tight cone of fire, has one of the loudest announcements and whose only benefit is being able to be aimed from the air which only makes you a bigger target
Pharah lost the Ult lottery hard.
>>340730606
>Typically the enemy team will try to stop you from doing this
Not when I play mercy
>>340731075
Dirty Bomb.
>It's a Zenyatta styles on my team with his balls episode
>>340731075
>Upset that deaths actually mean something
Why the fuck would you want a game where kills are almost meaningless due to team-size? Shit is stupid. Deaths and kills should rightfully have big impacts.
>Play beta
>Really enjoy the smaller teams and teamwork over TF2
>Really enjoy the fact that the healing and heavy classes have variety and are a lot more fun to play
>Buy at release
>Teamwork disappears
>Everyone is at each other's throats and blaming one another
>Lucio is the only healer worth taking if you are playing alone because no one thinks they exist when things are going well
>Reinhardt is the only proper tank possibly Winston at a stretch
>Look up what medals actually are
>Game is now just LoL/DOTA2
I really thought Blizzard were trying to make that trinity fun to play for all people rather than have everyone reluctant to pick anything over than PoTG characters. I hate how most games are decided by looking at the team comps just like the majority of TF2 pub games.
>>340731275
Is anyone else seeing what I'm seeing?
>>340714742
>use Genji on payload attack
>Jump around on the PL like an erratic idiot waiting for my team to come
>They're off death matching
>The Sniper and Bastion I can be sneaking behind lines to fuck up are just dominating us
Honestly Genji on PL attack isn't bad as long as they actually check in on the objective often and do their fucking job of slipping behind the enemy and fucking them up. If the map has no way to get behind them though, like Route 66's start or something, they fucking shouldn't.
>>340713872
It means I stopped playing healer because they all just keep running right into the enemies and don't wait for anyone.
>>340731159
VS
>i enjoy being a dick
>fuck everyone else
>i'm a real Rambo
>>340731316
Your conclusion about the cause of my being upset is somewhere between the opposite of what I was saying and nothing to do with it at all.
>>340731191
Oh, and
>can't move during it.
I think it's the only ult that stops you from moving.
>>340731075
>it's actually worse because now if even 1 person is fucking off it's a 17% burden on the team
>This somehow doesn't translate to "I am complaining about the increased impact of deaths"
Don't write shit you clearly don't even understand yourself.
>>340731564
>dies in spanish
>>340731394
Both TF2 and Overwatch could be fixed by implementing some sort of class limitations.
There should be something like a set amount of currency the team has to buy the classes they want to play, where generalist classes are cheap, and specialist classes are expensive.
Yeah there'd be some loss of
>muh freedomto be a burden on the team
but the net change would be positive.
>>340730923
>>use the turret exploit on defend
What?
>>340731853
Your idea sounds fucking retarded
>>340731725
Clearly I'm saying the problem is with the players. I think the increased impact of deaths is a good thing, and I THOUGHT it would incentivize more serious play from teammates.
I'd tell you to read inbetween the lines to figure this out, but I don't even think it takes that.
>>340731620
>Junkrat
>Mercy
>McCree for all intensive purposes
>Reinhardt, although it's really quick
>>340731916
Do you have a better one?
>>340731916
Amusingly, class limitations is exactly how they're trying to save Overwatch as an esport. His buying system is still stupid as hell.
Also, "generalist classes" and "specialist classes" makes me pretty sure he's never played either game.
>>340731445
Genji is great on payload, that's where his kind shines anyway. Getting in the backlines and denying the enemy getting back into defense.
>>340731853
>im max currency hero or feed x5
dont think it would work
>>340713872
That means that you gotta stop playing as Broken McCree and pick a fucking healer.
>>340717443
As long as you go on offense whenever you pop Molten Core you're golden. Seriously. Ult'd Tor is a fucking beast.
>>340732101
>TF2 doesn't have generalists and specialists
Soldier is good at many things in many situations. He can DM, have high mobility, and block choke points. A team of all soldiers would be difficult to shut down because he is a generalist that is generally good at all things.
Spy is a class with low mobility, who is only most effective at assassinating distracted picks. A team of all spies is easy to counter because spy is a specialist.
How is this hard.
>>340719828
The best part about Symmetra is that everyone just ignores you.
>>340732337
I'm sorry. I don't actually want to talk to you about Team Fortress. I think you're confusing 4chan for your clan forum circa 2009.
>>340721216
my nigga
>>340732456
>I'm sorry. I don't actually want to talk to you about Team Fortress.
It's ok. We all make mistakes sometimes.
>two Torbs
>one Widow
>no support
>on offense
>on Anubis
And the dumbfucks decide to switch characters with a minute left in the game. I know that people want to play the characters they like, but how can one look at team composition and not think, "Maybe I should pick a complementary character"?
>>340719828
It honestly pisses me off that my Symmetra has 90% win rate. I use her on defense anyway. But still.
>see multiple Overwatch threads/posts every day centered around stupid teammates making stupid hero choices that ruin the game
I thought the paywall would prevent what F2P did to TF2. Guess I'm keeping my $40.
>>340714742
>guy instantlocks Genji for payload attack
>is busy chasing and 1v1'ing the enemy genji for epic just like muh anime duels
>disregards doing his role like taking out the enemy teleporter, harrassing the sniper etc
>we lose
>>340719998
I did this twice. Just because I wanted to not think and just pound the hammer away.
I actually can't believe it worked so well. I put behind my team every time we moved the payload to scare off the Tracers and stuff. When they don't have those, I move forward before my team and find an angle that when a fight happens, it will be too late for them to notice it and they'll just die.
>>340732895
>Expecting a big community not to be full of idiots
Name one big video game community that is not full of idiots. A single one.
>>340732895
It's ten times better than TF2. Not even joking. Nothing comes close to retardation of TF2 pub in 2016.
>>340731853
Difficult to punish people without punishing innocent players. I'd say give those who fix shit team comps extra exp but switching up your team mid game is common anyway and could easily be rigged.
Monthly reward for those who use a variety of heroes and gain a variety of medals? People would probably just grind them and potentially ruin games by it.
If you play a hero and fail to get medals for their obvious roles a big fuck off message should appear suggesting that you pick another role and you get -75% exp until you mix up your roles for a bunch of matches.
Difficult.
>>340719243
Ooooh, sorry that's incorrect. Let's see what you wagered...and you wagered everything and your first born. Tough drop down to zero in many ways.
>>340720593
You know that's impossible. Unless it's a level 1 turret. Level 2 turret, you can kill around 4 seconds tops. While that happens you'll actually have no life if you didn't put up a barrier as well.
>>340732956
League of legends
>>340718297
>Facing 6 Torbs defending Temple of Anubis
>Steamroll Point A
>Get bogged down attacking Point B because Turrets
>2 people switch to Widowmaker
>Switch to Mercy
>They stand up on the roof over B sniping
>Damage buff them
>They start wrecking Torbs and Turrets in 1 shot
>Remainder of Team charge in and take the point
>5/6 people choose a character on a Defend the point map
>Team has no healer
>willing to play healer, but think that the 6th guy is holding out to pick what we need
>he waits until everyone else has run out of the spawn point
>picks McCree
This has happened to me at least 5 times this week. It's ALWAYS McCree.
>>340733176
You could at least try to be subtle my man.
>>340732991
I think your general idea of incentivizing helpful play is better than mine of discouraging unhelpful play.
It is difficult to do without punishing innocent players, but the innocent majority of players are already being punished anyways by a minority of players.
>>340733038
Try reading the comment chain before replying.
>>340733214
This is the absolute worst. If you're going to be a dickhead and pick whatever you want to play no matter what do it right away so people can build a team around your autistic ass.
>See a bunch of turrets and shit
>Want to switch to Widowmaker to deal with them
>We wouldn't have a tank/support then
>We already have a sniper
Worst fucking feeling.
>>340721216
Is there ever a reason to use the melee in this game?
>that one cunt that goes widow or hanzo on attack
>bitches constantly to others who are characters who fucking matter
>we lose because we end up losing our tank to go healer
>widow spends the entire game re-positioning
>lose
Wow wonder why
Why the fuck are Widowmaker, Hanzo, and Genji the shitter trio? I've never been on a team where these made a difference. Either they stick with them and we lose or they play them until we only have like a minute left in the game and we were barely able to push at all.
>>340733038
Please teach me the secret to Symmetra's level 2 turrets
>>340733412
Roadhog pull shoot melee combo that wipes 200 hp heros.
>>340714835
This. I always wait a bit for logging a char, and if we have Widow, Hanzo, Reaper, Cowboy, +1 wild card im not gonna fucking play Mercy for them.
>>340733412
When you're out of ammo and you need to kill someone, when you're hooking with Roadhog (hook -> m1 -> melee hits most things, and the melee comes out faster than a second shot) and when you're killing a reinhardt who's backpedalling with his shield up
>People saying Zenyatta is bad
Fuck you, in the right hands he's a fucking destroyer of worlds.
>>340733492
>Have a Hanzo shitter on my team
>They have their mic on with the feed too high so you hear their sound in the background
>They're always either breathing into the mic or sneezing or coughing
>>340720648
Because he is worse at doing damage than literally any of the tanks and worse at healing than any of the healers. There is nothing he can do that isn't done better by someone else. I specifically refuse to go support when I see a Zen on my team because they've made the conscious decision to gimp our team comp for "le epik sikk plays bro!" If you play Zen with the current state of the game you honestly don't deserve to win.
>>340733629
"In the right hands" he's still weaker than every other pick. Do you want a cookie for pubstomping on a bad character?
>>340733412
Using the 6th rocket while flying as Pharrah and doing a landing punch kill shot on a tank's head is an amazing feeling... and a great way to end a PoTG.
>>340731853
Yeah, but class limitations enforces a rigid meta since there is now a maximized efficiency comp. Competitive TF2 is boring as fuck because it's ALWAYS Medic-Demo-2xSoldier-2xScout.
God that shit is so boring.
>defending last point
>It's being capped
>Nobody actually gets on the point to block captime because they don't want to die
>Lose game
Seriously I've lost games because half the team was just standing around the point taking potshots at the people capping while the cap timer was going up, then whining because they lost. Why don't people understand the notion of (possibly) sacrificing yourself to buy time?
>Payload, King's Row
>Defending
>Pick Junkrat because I've been playing him recently due to getting the Jester skin
>Absolutely decimating the enemy team
>POTG is me using my ult to jump around past the enemy and wipe out their entire team
So satisfying.
>>340733703
>There is nothing he can do that isn't done better by someone else
Except, you know, cut an enemy's health in half instantly.
>>340733492
Hanzo is pretty good on offense in my opinion, but of course only when the player can actually hit things. He's better on offense than Widowmaker at least.
NO ONE GOES SUPPORT
>>340733214
If the player isn't picking leave before the game starts. At the assembling stage you don't get punished for leaving.
It takes a second to realise the team needs a healer and that giant tip should drill it into them, the only reason they haven't picked out of the two options is because they are going to pick an Offense hero. Same goes for the two unpicked when everyone else is Offense/Defence heroes.
My enjoyment of Overwatch has increased since ducking these games. Teams which pick heros quickly can change and form a reasonable team comp and you solve problems which can cost you losing a cap point at the assembly stage which the shitter team would only type out at the defeat screen.
>Always play mercy
>have more elis than the rest of the team
I hate these people.
>>340733936
So when exactly can you leave the game with no penalties? Is it during the 'pick your class' before anyone actually spawns? Or is it fair game until the attacker gates open?
>>340733706
That in no way makes him bad, he's just a glass cannon. His harmony orbs have quite the range as long as your teammate's in LoS. Sure, he's no Mercy in terms of pocket heals, and he lacks Lucio's movement, but he's still just as fun to play.
>>340733706
I've won a good few matches as just Zenny for healing.
You just gotta realize you're slow as shit and you gotta hang back and spam shift and E all day. Try to focus on the enemy teams better players to harass them. Also his ult is pretty good on payload maps to push with the team.
>>340733957
tanke u mercer
>>340733412
It can cancel a lot of shit. You can cancel reload animations of characters like reaper to make their reload faster.
It also works for combos, for example as genji, at close range, you can right click, cancel it immediately into melee and then cancel the melee immediately into his shift dash which does a big chunk of burst damage and will one-shot anybody that isn't a tank if you manage to get headshots with your shurikens.
>>340734074
>Payload, Attacking
>Use Zen's ult
>Everyone walks away or doesn't push forward
>play with 4 friends
>2 strangers join
>both pick the same hero
>we all switch to that hero
>"huh, we dont need 6 hanzos"
>"neither did we need 2 hanzos, and here we are"
>we lose , they ragequit
Why are Widowmakers so obnoxious?
>defense
>attack
>always 2 faggots that lock into widowmaker and hanzo
>>340734191
They were just so embarrassed that they had a zen on their team. They didn't leave you alone before because prior to the big glowing circle around you they didn't even realize they had a sixth player.
>>340734023
You are punished as soon as you spawn, as soon as you are walking around your spawn point it's too late to leave.
>>340734191
I swear people have no idea that his ult heals.
>>340734214
>Play on console because PC's a toaster
>Mfw people who pick Hanzo
>Mfw my team has more than one Hanzo
He's utter garbage with stick aiming, I don't understand why people can't get this through their thick skulls.
>>340734074
>just play him like a worse widowmaker
Oh, ok. Sounds great.
>Pick blueberry or whatever else I feel like playing
>Everyone is muted anyway
>Just shoot niggas
Only way to play solo.
>>340734283
>Being this buttmad
Got discorded and got his balls to your face, huh?
>>340734362
More like: He's utter garbage. 99% of people just spam arrows and randomly hit something from time to time. In the same time, a widowmaker, even a bad one, would have made 3 kills.
>>340733703
I only play Zenyatta to punish my team for making me play support, so I hope I get you on my team :)
>enemy team has a symmetra
>my team pussyfoots around the first chokepoint and never get the balls to barge through, feeding the enemy team all the ults they need
>I play symmetra
>they cant hold the chokepoint for one fucking minute
>point A quickly gets ravaged afterwards
>snowballs into immediate point B capture
or worse
>pick symmetra
>there is no longer a tip saying we need a support
>80% of the people who play this game are apparently braindead so no one picks a healer
It's seriously so fucking hard to try and play something different once in a while.
If my team doesn't pick a support, then I switch to one.
Everyone wants to be in the thick of battle and they don't want to hang back. But if you want to help your team while healing, then play Lucio. But I also had so much fun just playing Mercy.
>>340734601
>Playing team-games solo
Found the problem.
>aww geez I'm doing terrible this round maybe I'll switch hero lets see our line up
>despite your poor performance you have medals
>>340734681
I
DON'T
HAVE
FRIENDS
FUCK OFF
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
IS THIS SUDDENLY THE NORMIE ZONE? DO WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH NOW?
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>usually play tank
>on defend
>someone else instapicks rein
>and another dude picks lucio
>other 3 are all attackers
>I'm free to pick anyone I want
>try out symmetra
>lucio says "we don't need 2 supprots"
>goes reaper
WhyReaper proceeded to die constantly and rage quit, I had a 22 kill streak as sym and we won
>>340731904
Hidey-holes in map structures for turrets so they can shoot enemies but enemies can't shoot the turrets.
>playing fucking terribly
>press tab
>gold medal 3 eliminations
>>340734797
Who is Junkrat?
>>340714253
it sounds like you were just a shitty zenyatta
>>340734785
Hey, I don't have friends either. I'm saying: Don't expect team-play when you're playing solo. Stop caring about the objective and have fun. I'm serious, everything else is fucking terrible.
>>340734802
>when the tank has the most damage done
strangely I've only seen this while winning but it really makes me wonder just what the rest of the team was up to
>>340734601
I want to try to be good at Symettra but every fucking time I pick her we are down a healer. I have no idea why Blizzard put her as support and not defense.
Whenever i see 3 of my teammates pick the same character I immediately switch to that character
>>340734785
>>340734681
>Play games to escape my shitty social life and problems
>You now need 5 friends who are willing to play video games at the same time of day
>These friends must want to play for the same amount of time
>They must be around the same level of skill
>One of you still needs to clean up all the cummies as the mandatory support role
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
>Mercy "waifu" fags that think they are good but turn out to be absolute dog shit losers.
>D.VA mains that are consistently worse than all the retard Hanzos on the planet put together out of sheer uselessness
>Retards that spam Bastion is bad but continue to die to him every time they engage a point
>Symmetra's that spend half the game setting up sentry's in a far location to get a pointless kill or two and then say "see how good and useful I am".
>Tards that join a lobby bitch about the double Genji's, ragequit, and then we proceed to win anyway
My experience has been the total opposite of you guys. I swear you blow things out of proportion so much it makes me want to puke sometimes.
>>340733703
Funny that, when I play Zen I get silver/gold damage done medal almost every time.
His healing is about 60% of Mercy/Lucios but he more than makes up for it with damage and Discord.
Just gotta git gud unless they have aWidowcunt.
>>340731434
yes
When I try doing this as lucio he doesn't seem as...slippery.
or is that just how it looks to the other player
>>340735030
Well, that's how videogames are now. Matchmaking and forced cooperation all day every day, thank LoL and Dota for that.
>>340735118
Well, with speed-boost he really is.
>>340734910
> I'm serious, everything else is fucking terrible.
why even play such a game at all lmao
Why can't /v/ accept that some hero's are worse or better than others. It will always be like that, there will never be perfect balance.
Zen right now is an off support that in a 6 man premade is almost always better replaced with a true offense or support. It's just fact.
>>340713872
>Then switch faggot
was that really that hard
>>340735118
He amped up with speed boost the first time
>>340735118
Wow, I found the one Anon as fucking old as me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0
>>340735118
SHAZBOT
>>340734470
There really is no reason to pick Hanzo over Widowmaker, her 100% charges in half the time it takes for Hanzo to draw an arrow.
>>340734371
You dumb faggot did I say that?
Behind your team literally means what it means. Who pushes first/ solo as support?
>>340735239
As people begin to realise how strong Zarya is, Zen will become more used. She's been in every single match I've played over the past few hours and Zenyatta is the best way to nullify her.
>>340716407
>>340716204
lucio wall riding is really rad since you can do some crazy movement by changing walls (allows you to wall ride again). but its wasted on a hero with no cool weapon. Imagine if an offensive character had it, they could go ninja on your ass. His gun is fucking retarded and in king of the hill its just me jerking off in a corner while the heals are done automatically. Only fun is when someone fucks up and stands next to a ledge. I got 7 kills that way one round on illios.
>>340735239
That in no way makes Zen a bad character, he's just an alternate Symmetra.
>>340735407
She also has hitscan, the best ult in the game, better mobility and better close range options.
>>340734214
This is the best. I had full D-Va,Reaper, Mei, Tracer and Hazo rounds because of this shit. It makes them rage so much its hilarious.
>>340735314
>implying
I say that all the time and had no idea what it was from. It's been referenced for ages.
>>340735520
She can also get to higher, harder to reach places infinitely better than Hanzo.
>>340735464
Yes, that's exactly what you said.
>you gotta hang back
>Try to focus on the enemy teams better players to harass them
Or I could shoot them in the fucking face with Widowmaker and actually be useful.
>escort the payload in numbani
>been playing against this enemy team for a few rounds, most of them are decent or at least coordinated
>probably a premade
>we take the first point almost immediately because they were trying to spawn kill us
>they setup at the underpass choke point so we escort to there no problem
>spend a while stuck there
>our 3 dps are literally shit
>I have gold in kills on rein, the mercy has silver
>1 minute left, tempted to switch characters to one they're using and show them how to kill things
>pretty much walk past the enemies since they're all fighting in the apartment above the overpass
>escorting the payload alone, uncontested
>enemy team so focused on killing the shitters on my team and leaving me alone that I win the match
>my team thought we lost until Victory popped up
I'm glad they weren't able to kill any of the enemy team, or else they would have come out of spawn and noticed.
>pick torbjorn on the chinese map
>get near the point on the tower during setup, throw down my turret next to it
>it's immediately blown up by 4 people shooting at it
>by this time my entire team is already dead and has done no damage
>enemy Torbjorn can safely set up his turret and farm kills
I don't understand how it's possible to die that fast
>>340735508
I need more pictures of Zenyatta not giving a fuck
>>340733412
It's hitscan.
They have a large hitbox.
Some weapons do more than the default 50.
Can cancel or be cancelled into animations.
Saves ammo, or can be used in place of reload.
>>340735261
Nice greentext use.
>>340734785
Invite people into a group who did well in a game and didn't pick cancer classes when they're not needed.
>Guy locks down Menu
>Spends all day rushing objective and not herding the group
>Gopes on voice channel complaining that he's carrying the team
>They're retarded at best trying to take the evening route to the objective.
Instead of being constructive he just keeps rushing point, sticking to Me and expecting things to be different.
>Yells at me for being a shit Lucio
>I'm just trying to push our team ahead.
>I join up with him, he keeps getting killed, and rushing the objective and bitching
Don't fucking tell me how to play if you're not helping.
>>340735508
Never said he was bad.
Just that an optimal 6 man comp Zen would be rarely used except to maybe nullify shield/heal stacking tanks.
In fucking quick play you can play 6 man Hanzo and win because the player base is mostly mentally deficient weebs that were rank bronze in league.
>>340733412
Certain characters are better to use it than others.
Lucio's gun is a peashooter with burst fire so it's worth using in between shots as you jump around like a madman.
Reaper will still reload if you do it in mid-reload unlike most characters because he threw away his old guns.
not sure what other characters have special properties
>>340734787
People are retarded.
>someone picked Mercy
>pick Lucio because its a payload map with ugly chokepoints
>he switches to Hanzo or some shit
>>340734785
They have in game voice coms for a reason you retard.
>>340735716
Zenyatta's best used on a team with a Reinhardt, and a Symmetra/Torbjorn.
I just like him because he's fun, I probably would have never gravitated to him if it wasn't for getting the Sunyatta skin.
>>340735779
>2 Widowmakers and a Hanzo: A OK
>someone has lucio picked
>also pick lucio because 2 lucio is really good
>NOPE CAN'T HAVE THAT
>the other lucio instantly switches
Who the fuck plays support?
I have 35 hours logged so far and I haven't heard a single person use coms and the farthest extent of the chat I've seen is "gg" or "fuking ez".
>>340735659
There's not much Zen art in general.
>Type in Zenyatta
>Get pictures of horses
>>340716375
>Literally just aim at some ones fucking leg, don't even have to charge to get an insta kill
>Missed? Don't worry, you can mash the fuck out of your left click since there's no cooldown or reload time on it!
>High skill ceiling
>>340735963
The "heal sluts" on /v/ are almost always god awful shit that I can just imagine drooling on their keyboard when someone says "nice heal".
All these complaints about teammates.
Why not just play Quake.I think you all just want to get carried.
>>340736081
Well it doesn't really help that healing in this game is literally made for fucking retards. The only character that has to actually put effort into healing is Zenyatta, and that's because he's a pile of shit right now.
>>340735895
>switches to hanzo/widow/genji/reaper
>>340735651
It's pretty much pointless to play Torb once they get the first objective, or get the cart moving. He's good when the game first starts and you've already got your turret up, and at the last choke point, but anything inbetween is when he turns shit.
>>340736321
Yeah, I was mostly confused by how incredibly inept my team was
>>340736097
Most of them are either lying to get (You)'s
Or straight garbage.
Their fault for playing by themselves.
Look at the game, it's appeal is for under ages and the "esport" audience. Of course you're going to get matched with edgy weebs and simpletons.
Look at what you are fucking playing and tell me you didn't expect shit fucking players.
>tfw cockblocking HIGH NOON with an ice wall right in front of McRee's face just a moment before he fires
>tfw heal slut
>>340736425
>Every time I try to use HIGH NOON I get immediately shot down
>Every time the enemy uses HIGH NOON they blow up my entire team
>>340736387
Forced 50
>>340736483
>i'm bad
>>340736425
>IT'S HIGH NOON at the very end of the match
>speed boost and punch him in the face
>he dies
>>340736483
>Every time an enemy Reinhardt swings at me it blows me away 100-0 with the force of extreme steel justice
>Every time I hit someone as Reinhardt it's like I'm zen and they just one shot me as soon as my shield is gone
>Want to try and play Genji
>Be the first to lock in
>Every other picked his class except one faggot
>Missing a healer but that faggot of course chooses Genji
>Forced to switch due this faggot
>>340719709
you can also just pick lol-offense and lose until the game gives you so retardedly easy opponents you can have fun stomping them.
>slashing someone with genjis ult slightly off center of them gives more range with the slashes
>Join match in progress
>DEFEAT
>>340736504
>Forced 50
Completely circumvented by pre-mades
>>340716375
The problem is you're better off going for 100% charge body shots since it charges so quick and she can fire once every fucking half second. Why risk missing the head when you can still 2-3 shot most heroes with quick body shots?
>>340736803
>Don't even have a chance to pick a character
>DEFEAT
>Comment on how stupid this is, why isn't there a "Join match in progress" click box or the opposite
>"lol quit complaining, free xp dude"
>you get 0 xp
>I'm the last person on our team to pick a hero
>we have no support
>go Symmetra
>someone else immediately changes to Lucio or Mercy
It's the same thing with picking D.Va, someone else will change to ANOTHER tank because they think D.Va and Symmetra are shit.
>>340713872
it's a slang for "git gud team"
>>340736803
You instantly got 1-2k XP for free and can now leave
Fuck off
>Yfw your team doesnt get on the FUCKING POINT
Today I found out that Lucio's DROP THE BEAT needs ti actually hit the ground
>pushing point with zarya
>see rein charging her way
>pushback on cd
>DROP THE BEAT
>rein hits her
>bumps into me as well
>since i was jumping i get launched into the stratosphere
>animation frozen on lowering the gun
>no shields provides
>zarya dies
>land
>get shields
>HAMMER DIWN
>ded
Wish i had that shitty shadow play active at the time
>>340736859
They'll get you when you solo queue or only have 2 friends or less. Or just slap you against 6 level 80 people
>>340736425
>Some pharrah on the enemy team starts talking mad shit because he was upset he lost
>Meme on him the entire next game saying "thought?" whenever we kill him
>He tries to make a huge play with a big Pharrah ult on our entire team
>Stand infront of him with D.va and defense matrix the entire thing
>He RQs
This game is funny as shit sometimes.
>>340735481
Melee more often.
Due to his mobility and having a knockback tool and his main damage being shit, meleeing people is perfectly viable, especially if you amp speed boost around properly.
>>340736970
Well the beat needs to hit the ground for it to technically be dropped
>>340736859
The only real way to play this game is as 6.
It's still forced 50, but forced 50 done right in that it puts you up against better opponents instead of trying to equalize you with shitters.
>>340736957
>they think D.Va and Symmetra are shit.
That's only because they are.
>>340736957
Uhhh, people pick another tank when they see D.Va because she's not really a tank. It's the same with Zarya. It has nothing to do with them being shit, just not fitting their role.
>enemy team defending
>they pick two torbjorns and the point/payload is never lost
g-great balance blizzard
>>340736957
This is okay though because Symmetra can't heal and there's nothing wrong with 2 support.
It's worse when you pick symmetra and they complain you aren't a mercy heal slut
>>340715506
GENJI / HANZO pickers are all fucking weaboos man thye think look at me im so edgy im japanese ninja xDDD and then they die 20x and get 1 kill
>>340736803
>Join match
>DEFEAT
>Goto the card screen
>You're the only one left on the team
EVERY. TIME.
>>340716548
>pick mercy
>whole team are idiots constantly getting flanked from behind
>after the 5th time getting flanked they still not learn
>whip pistol out stop healing them and get gold on elimination
>>340737091
>zarya ult 4 people
>MOLTEN CORRRRRE MOLTEN CORRRRRE ZEEP ZOOP BEEP BOOP
>>340736962
No you don't.
>>340737263
>zarya ult incoming
>genji reflects it
>>340735314
>implying that invented serpentine
Besides I think most people around here would know it from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzYncsG05vo
>>340737067
>she's not really a tank, despite being in the tank category
>Symmetra's not really a support, despite being in the support category
This is the problematic mindset. D.Va is a great tank, you just don't understand how she's supposed to be played. Hint: she's not supposed to stay on the payload/capture point.
>>340737263
Molten Core isn't gonna save them from getting raped if your team joins in.
>>340721737
I use -or in things like labor instead of labour but I use -se instead of -ze in things like realise. Sue me faggot
>>340737397
Half the characters don't really fit the category they're in
>>340737428
Yes it is.
People seriously underestimate Torbjorns survivability, his fucking turret becomes borderline invincible and his gun gets a buff for no reason at all when he ults and then he cant fucking die anyway.
>>340737292
Yes. Unless you got in right when the Defeat sign popped up you fucking do.
Literally 1 auto on anything turret or hero will secure it.
Was even commented on in the fucking Overwatch forums you nincompoop.
>team is doing really well, stomping
>have bronze and some silver
>team is getting stomped
>have 3+ golds with high stats, killing everyone/doing objectives
>>340713872
>main lucio/mercy
>never have this problem
>secure payload
>team fucks off solo to chase enemies
>only one left on payload
Life is suffering no matter what you do.
>>340737372
>Zarya ult
>enemy Zarya throws ult as well
>2 blobs full of people trying to whip shit at the enemy team whyle watching Rein's ass floating infront
>It's a "One person has a mic and they say nothing except breath loudly and cough into it" episode
>>340718459
You better be platform with those opinions
>>340737562
>borderline invincible
It's not that strong. Hanzo takes out the unbuffed turret in 3 hits, 4 or 5 when it's buffed.
zarya is so good on pubs, they keep shooting the bubbles and wonder why they get melted instantly, i bet she sucks donkey dick in coordinated team games
worst part is that support are just boring.
>mercy
>beams lock on to your allies, no skill involved, just make sure you stay behind. Any retard can be halfdecent with only 5 minutes of play
>tracer
>have to aim full burst, can jump around like crazy, can fuck people up if youre good, be useless if youre bad
why the hell would I just get bored out of my head AFKing as mercy when I can have fun with any other character. Hell even soldier 76 provides more diversity
>>340713872
How do you get those extra voice commands, anyway?
I only have the default one with the emote and voiceline and shit, but I sometimes see people go "attack the point" or "change to X" and such. Can't seem to do it myself.
>It's a "Your team does what they were supposed to do since the beginning of the match, but at the final 30 seconds and lose" episode
>>340738383
shes well used in comp
great for telegraphed attacks like roadhog hooks and junkrat tires
>Payload Route 66
>Attack Mode
>Get a great idea
>Pick Bastion even though we already have 2 of them.
>Tell everyone on my team to chose Bastion for the lulz
>HolyShit.jpg
>They actually do it, every one of them
>We run in Guns a Blazin'
>We pushed the Payload to the end with minimal interruption
>The enemy team was so salty afterwards that they all left the game.
>Mfw Bastion is OP
>Mfw We unleashed Armageddon
>>340735118
run for a while with speedboost and then let go of your movement keys. You will notice you will slide a bit further.
>>340736989
just imagine symmetra having it. Then her gun would make snese
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, BLOW IT UP AGAIN!
>>340713872
>Playing as mercy
>Losing
>Someone switches to lucio
>Think "whatever" and change hero
>Changes from support literally 30 seconds later
There's nothing more I fucking hate then people who just switch through heroes when they die as if anything fucking changes.
>>340738360
The turret instantly locks on so it's extremely unlikely that you can even shoot it without getting annihilated. Not to mention that "durr just shoot it" is a bad argument because if there's two torbjorns, there's also 4 more player slots that can just as easily focus you as soon as you attack the turret.
>>340739243
Lucio and Mercy go perfectly together. There's nothing wrong with that setup
>>340717340
Are you that faggot that uses smilies? Look you did a good job but these kind of reactions make me wary of healers.
>>340734023
>>340734295
>>340733936
Holy shit
I was thinking of getting this game, but what the fuck
Why would they design a game that punishes you for leaving?
That's the most cancerous type of game there is
>>340736970
I've dropped the beat onto a Junkrat tire before.
It blew up. We didn't get shields.
I've done more then a few soaring drops where Reaper ults as I'm already in the air.
No shields.
The number of times I've gone to drop the beat, and found myself unable to make contact with the ground due to one reason or another is too high to fully remember.
>>340739393
I don't know I just figured we needed all the attackers we could.
Not that he fucking had your mindset. Dickhead knew he was only support and he still put fuck all effort into a doing it.
>>340738591
aim at someone and use "heal me" command
>>340739393
All the ''''''pro''''''' teams use it as well its pretty OP
mercy hides and resses when needed
lucio does the healing
>>340718913
I love zenyatta
I always pick reinhardt
Pick up that lil robot monk and put him in my blue pocket
He sits there and murder rapes the whole team with his delicious purple orbs while staying safe and warm
>>340739121
BRRRRRIIING!
>playing support
>roadhog is our "tank"
>payload is nearing last point
>roadhog can't last against concentrated fire
>"road hog can you please switch to a reinhardt to finish this push" "why don't YOU switch to reinhardt lolol ok? :DDDD"
>>340739243
>There's nothing I hate more than people trying to have fun near me.
>playing Mercy
>that guy who autolocks Offense watches me get killed without lifting a finger to help
>"I need healing!"
>>340739647
You guys could've had one of your non-supports go Rein. More tanks is a good way to get past the end.
>>340739680
>Implying lucio isn't fun
You should go and see a doctor about your depression, friend.
>>340739723
>Window says 'I need healing'.
Then you need to not play Widow.
>>340739827
a widow means something different with that. She means, stupid healslut get up here and damage amp me so you arent a useless piece of shit.
>mostly play Zenyatta and Winston
>pretty challenging to keep a 50/50 W/L ration with them
>decide to try out Torb on defense the last bundle of games
>9/1 W/L and 4:1 K/D
Jesus Christ what the fuck.
>>340737642
The fact that the 'sarah' is still in there triggers my autism.
>>340739914
If I'm Lucio?
>>340740048
>playing lucio with a widowmaker on your team
>>340739983
Torb's gun is actually pretty powerful. The primary fire is on par with McCREEE's and the secondary completely wrecks all the squishies.
+ The armor drops.
>>340734414
>mfw discording a tank and watching his hp drop faster than the twin towers as my team mates capitalize on it
>>340740138
Why should I adapt for the widowmaker, especially if it's on attack? Widowmaker is shit.
>>340739983
>Winston
>pretty challenging to keep a 50/50 W/L ratio with them
o im laffin
>>340740378
because it is pretty nice to have a widowmaker countersniping their widowmaker, taking care of turrets, pharahs and bastions.
>>340740378
>Widowmaker is shit
(You)
>We have a Mercy
>I pick Lucio
>The Mercy instantly swaps to an offense hero
>"Fucking idiot I was already support"
I hate these retards so much. It's the same thing if I pick Winston when someone else is already Winston, they ALWAYS SWAP TO SOMETHING ELSE, when having two Winstons is fucking amazing.
Also
>We have a DVa
>I pick a real tank
>"Fucking idiot we already have a tank"
>>340734854
The holes in DOrado are too high to Junkrat them. Winston could work however
> playing Mercy
> team running to their deaths too fast to keep up with
> someone passive aggressively switches to support
>>340717443
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
>>340740436
Well I don't really play with any friends, and when I play Winston faggots never back me up when I try to dive to take objectives or disrupt. 50% of the times it's 2 Hanzo's and a fucking Widowmaker stand on some ledge 100 meters away missing shots.
>>340740564
>2x Lucio and 2x Winston on a KOTH map
Fucking amazing, every time
>>340716285
You have run into the eponymous "moba cuck". They actually believe that "you're the only constant" bullshit so ironically they climb up other people's asses to save their own egos.
Nothing wrong with tryharding but being a moba cuck is killing video games.
>>340740714
>Playing Mercy
>Our Genji is behind the enemy lines spamming "I need healing"
>He dies
>"fucking healer"
There's the problem of the game
It's Dota/lol all over again, people will be required to play support and they hate that
>>340734414
>mfw using zen ult right as the enemy ults
>mfw saving my entire team
>>340740714
two support are fine provided the rest of your team can actually click enemy
>>340741548
that's a large assumption around lvl 20ish
>>340741694
the struggle is real
>duo queue
>reinhardt+mercy since everyone picks offense
>bastion keeps popping teh shield
>genji is a retard
>ask buddy to pick genji instead since he is actually good with him
>switch from mercy since I dont like healing if there is no tank
>team gets mad
>>340739642
ANYONE UP FOR BARBECUE?