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>"Someone change to healer!" what do they mean by this?
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>"Someone change to healer!"

what do they mean by this?
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>Faggot picks Zenyatta immediately
>Bitches the entire time about how there's no other healer
>First point gets taken
>"This is a fucking waste of my time"
>Ragequits instead of switching to one of the good healers
>I switch to Lucio, team wins
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i honestly have no idea
even if i did its wrong
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>have perfect 2 tank, 2 heals, 2 dps set up
>some faggot retard in chat: DURR WE NEED MORE DPS
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>guy instantlocks Genji for payload attack
>we lose
>"gg no tank no healer noob team"
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If someone picks a tank and we need a support, I will support, and vice versa.

If entire team picks dps and says "we need tank and heals!", I just pick another dps. If we're going to lose, I may as well try to have fun.
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>>340714742
The people who came over from league of legends.
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>3 people go widomaker
>they argue on who to switch
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>>340714990
Why should any of them switch?

My friends and I run three widowmakers and two tracers and we win 9.5/10 games.
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They're smart enough to see what the team needs, but selfish enough to expect someone else to do it so they can play Widowmaker/McCree
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>>340714742
>control point attack
>hanzo, widowmaker, two genji, one roadhog, me (lucio)
>actually capture first point relatively quickly
>second point
>genjis doing fucking nothing
>snipers doing fucking nothing
>welp it's up to me and this roadhog I guess
>roadhog quits halfway through
>lose miserably
>"good team comp"
>"fuck off"
>"you mad"
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>Junkrat
>absolutely WIPE the other team constantly
>they never fucking learn and just keep running right into the beartrap over and over
>just keep lobbing grenades down the hallway
>they never go another route but try to "organize" against me a few times
>play of the game is me destroying the entire team as they cram all of their members into the tiniest smallest area and die on my bear trap + grenades lobbed down there

So it's confirmed that Junkrat is the Soldier of Overwatch, right?
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>>340713872
>GUYS WE NEED A HEALER
>LVL 17 IS THE LAST GUY TO PICK A HERO
>HE FUCKING PICKS GENJI
>NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO CHANGE WHEN IN REINHARDT
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
WHY ARE GENJI PLAYERS THE WORST KIND OF FAGS
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>>340713872
What did you people expect it's a blizzard games, and blizzard fans are a bunch of moronic fuckheads.
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>That guy that complains about the rest of the team being shit while contributing the least and dying most
>He ragequits, someone else fills his spot, and we win easily

Why is this scenario so common
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>>340713872
Stop being a worthless faggot and pick a healer.
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>>340714990
>same thing happened to me
>the entire team then wants to go sniper
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>Payload is almost at your base
>you have a gold medal with 1 elimination
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I main Mercy. Never a PotG, thats always some junkrat/edgehead triple-kill, but I get epic commendations out the ass.
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>>340714253
Clearly, your team needed you as a Lucio rather than whatever else you were playing. You should have switched in the first place.
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>>340715609
>high skill ceiling
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>>340715609
Only good Winston skin. How long until trading? Items won't have the same effect on the community and longevity of the game if you can't trade them and some real monetary value behind them. Hat Jews are the #1 reason CSGO and TF2 are still around, no amount of competitive esports autists will keep them afloat compared to the power of greed and capitalism.
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>"we doing double Lucio?"
>"haha nah I'll get off"
>"nah it's all right, won as him last round, I'll go Mercy"
>"neat, thanks"
More people need to play support, switch characters, and/or just have fun.
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>>340715506
>about to pick healer because we have none
>suddenly some dickhead has the fucking nerve to tell me how to play and who I should pick
>pick Genji out of spite
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>>340715506
>get in game
>see some level 40+ dude insta-lock genji within half a second
>don't even need to look up his profile to know that he has 1000hours played of genji and 0 hours of any other character in the game
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I always get stuck playing Support because nobody else does and I feel bad about it.
At the same time Lucio is fucking boring beyond wall riding and Zenyatta is rather situational and I don't enjoy Mercy or Symmetra.
Just shit my fuck up.
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>>340716021
>damage boosting a 76 when hes full health and healing when not full
>starts bitching at me when he dies in 2 seconds to a lot of powerful attacks
why were the games before lvl 30 so fun and nice, but after, everyone is just a rude asshole
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>get into game
>attack
>play bastion
>"UH BRUH DONT PLAY BASTION ON ATTACK HE IS A DEFENSIVE PLAYER"
>*activate troll mode*
>end of the game later 3 gold stars, two silvers.
>he shitposts chat then leaves

Best game of the day
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>>340716204
>nearly 10 hours as Symmetra
>pick support and defense when there are none
I'm glad I don't mind being a bitch, cause solo queuing just makes me hate pubbies.
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>>340715831
It's true though, anybody can play widowmaker with all her mechanics in mind, but the actual limit is as good as your aim and reactions are.
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>>340716204
Lucio has the be the funnest healer.

>Get PotG with Lucio
>On Ilios, see Reaper's smoke cloud teleporting in
>With his back to the sheer drop
>Wait, blast him off
>Run inside, kill Tracer and someone else by skating back and forth and shooting erratically
>Cap point

Lucio's rad as hell, man
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>>340715897
Nobody wants Overwatch to turn into the cancer that is TF2 trading faggotry.
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>>340716204

Play Zenyatta as DPS
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>>340716430
Blizzard does
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>Be Mercy
>Notice my team has two widowmakers and a hanzo for some reason
>Pull out my pistol and don't bother healing anyone the rest of the match
>They all cry for heals
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>>340716430
Then it'll be dead before the year is up.

>>340716338
>>*activate troll mode*
Fuck off
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>>340713872
You're someone.
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>>340715451
Nah, that's my soldier who just decimates other teams. Especially "Fiyer in tha hole!" Rocket to nonexistent tire.

Soldier is the soldier of Overwatch.
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>>340715897
Hat jews also ruined TF2 and any integrity it once had, so no.
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>>340713872
They mean that you'll probably lose. If this you see this phrase or something about telling people to change hero in chat, you'll lose.
I guarantee it.
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>>340716621
No, Robin Walker ruined TF2 and any integrity it once had. Hat Jews just took advantage of it.
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>>340713872
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>>340715205
Things that never happen for $400 Alex
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I play alot of support, what irks me is the one guy that spams need healing when I am nowhere near them, they are behind enemy lines and then complains about getting no healing.

When I'm playing Mercy on your team and you are not getting healing/buffs then it's because I don't think you are as effective as other team members.

Give your support a reason to to support you.
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>>340713872
It means they themselves don't want to be a healer and insist on someone else taking the burden.
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>>340713872

>"what do you mean no? you was doing a good job last time. just pick the healer already."
>now i'm expected to be healer nearly everytime
>they'll drop me if i refuse and go find someone else

don't fall for it.

don't be me.
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>>340716961
Sounds like they aren't really your friends
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>>340715373

What is the story behind this image?
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>>340716751
>Robin Walker
Who?
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>>340716558
Did i trigger you fuccboi?

I just wanted to work with Reinhardt to break the first point, btw, left that out.
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>>340713872

>tfw your Reinhardt compliments your healing
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>enter game
>three idiots choose genji
>since i already know we're gonna lose the game I might as well have fun
>pick torb
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>guy on my team is constantly cursing and saying that everybody is shit and useless
>he's playing Hanzo
>can't aim, keeps getting kills by the enemy team Hanzo
>literally everybody in the game is laughing at him
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>>340713872
>get bored of the same old comps every match
>pick torb every time regardless of the map or team comp
>"torb please switch"
>"torb can you go tank"
>"torb can you go healer"
>never switch
>have fun

I'm not going to pay attention to the 'trinity' in this game until they had more tanks and supports or make more of the current ones viable

As it is now reinhardt is the only real tank and lucio and mercy are the only real supports. All 3 are boring as fuck to me so I have no intention of playing those roles

It sounds like a douche thing to do but submitting to the meta is only going to make other players more likely to submit to it as well which is not healthy for this game. Does anyone really want to limit themselves to a small pool of meta heroes because that's what the pros/community consider to be the best picks?

That said, torb is fun as fuck, I can't tell you how many flanks I've ruined because a turret I left behind caught someone off guard, and if there's tons of carnage around you you can keep your team alive by constantly throwing armor at them.
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>>340717314
>btw
Fuck off.
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>>340713872
In pugs theres a delicate balance between 3 forces.

1. People who play a certain role often enough to usualy be useful with that role, but will switch if they need to .
2. People who don't wanna switch, regardless of if they're good or not.
3. People trying to improve an least-played character to get more versatile.

Overwatch it at its best when you have a 6 man and can start to learn to adapt to the enemy team. Cus if you get shit on there's no excuse.
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>>340716548
Might as well AFK, you're just as bad as them.

Fight to your last breath and 1v4 if you have to. Show dominance.
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>>340716285
People who are playing for fun, who haven't hit a higher level yet. Then people who are playing because MUH COMPETITIVE GAME UHH GOTTA WIN BIG MONEY BIG PRIZES!
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>>340716621
>>340716751
i thought what killed TF2 was vavle just adding in every single hat with no oversight on file limits that made the game run like ass even on good rigs
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>entire team chooses widowmaker
Oops, you guys misspelled bastion and the dwarf. It's the only 2 heroes anyone ever chooses and you're lying if you say otherwise. (junkrat is also broken so is chosen a lot)
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>>340717446
Awwah, did i trigger you again senfam?

>i bet you were the sperglord in the game, huh? I doubt it but shit, that would be funny.
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>>340717964
More like valve only focusing on hats and really bad unfun gamemodes focused around hats.
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>"Reinhardt is the only tank"
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>>340718021
>OMG THIRD TEAM
>play mvm
>it's just red humans vs. blu robots
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>>340718021
that too. I remember quitting tf2 for good in 2012 when they wanted me to buy a jew pass in order to play a PVE mode
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>>340718030
Roadhog spotted.
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>>340715897
>trading in an FPS

Fuck no that shit ruins games
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Is this game literally turrets vs. turrets?
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>acting condescending to hide the fact you'll be thinking of this encounter all night

Whatever, kid.
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>>340718087
Zarya and D.va actually
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>>340717342
LOL sike. You mean everyone chooses torb so 1 person wants to have fun and chooses genji.
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>>340717342
I think you're lying there buddy.
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>>340718234
Can gengi reflect turret bullets? Never seen it so im going with no.

He cant reflect winstons gun which is absolutely halarious.
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>>340718030
>everyone expects D.Va to tank the same way as Reinhardt
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>>340718212

Reinhardt is the only tank, Zarya is a heavy DPS/Support combo and D.va is just an annoying piece of shit that falls somewhere inbetween the role of Roadhog and Winston and doesn't actually do much.
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>>340718149
At skills levels above extremely shit almost nobody picks them because it's ridiculously easy to kill them with snipers, pharah, genji, coordinated fire or just good play.
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>>340717342
Fun with the most broken and op hero? k, yeah have "fun" being like everyone else.
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How much practice with Widowmaker do I need to git gud? I miss so badly at times while all the other Snipers are no-scoping me.
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>>340718407
Lvl 97, people still only choosing torb and bastion, which lvl do they stop?
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>>340718514
She's 1 of the heroes that takes a lot of skill, practice hitting moving targets, I got good at it.
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>>340718524

Level is not a skill indicator, the point he was making is that Torb and Bastion are utterly useless against good players.
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>>340718636
sike,
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>>340718636
Torb is actually much more useful than Bastion because his own primary gun is really good. The turret is much more for distracting fire.
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>Gibraltar defense
>go reinhardt
>rest of team consists of snipers and a zenyatta
>enemy team just has to kill me and has unopposed payload movement for the entirety of the game
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>can't aim
>can't make snap decisions
>0 reaction time
>play as lucio and still average 3 gold medals a game

thank god for support
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>>340714253
You are an asshole. zenyatta is an off support, you are SUPPOSED to have him with another support like lucio. Why do people even play this game if they can't into basic comp
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>>340718593
Thanks fampai.

>>340718878
He's just fun overall.

Does any other Lucio player skate the central point in Lillian Tower like I do?
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>>340715897
anon blizzard didnt even put trading option is Hearthstone. That's right, a CARD GAME. And since lootbox here function like card packs (same rarity system) just forget about trading. Hell, even in Diablo 3 you cant trade. What the fuck blizzard, what the fuck.
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>>340718810
>First pick Zenyatta
>Hanzo
>Widowmaker
>Genji
>Torbjorn
>Bastion

Everyone can go fuck themselves.
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>>340718810

>Any defensive side without a Mercy

Not even worth staying in the game, back to the queue.
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>>340713872
That you are an idiot.
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>2 widows on attack
>They keep running into enemy lines
>Die over and over
>Bitch about lack of heals in chat
>Ask one of them to swap to another hero
>"Widowmaker is my main"
.
Being Mercy is suffering.
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>>340716858
And now for the finale jeopardy: This hero isn't as good as you think they are.
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>>340719208
What is Mercy?
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>>340718913
zenyatta is a waste of a slot. the match was better off without him
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>>340719208
D.Va

My CoD trained skills of ambushing and running around mean nothing if her shotguns just shoot confetti, even at point blank.
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Had a painful game earlier. Our team on a payload attack map:

>Be me, Lucio
>Reinhardt
>Pharaoh
>Reaper
>Benji
>Tracer

The match consisted of me and rein hopelessly trying to push the cart while the rest of the team "flanked". We lost so hard.
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>>340716621
How so? Im genuinely curious.
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>>340719058
symmetra is actually better on defense.

>>340718636
I have seen decent bastions do well. His scout mode is suprisingly good. He directly counters rhienheart.
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>just a minute ago
>hollywood offense
>30 seconds remaining
>2 widows on our team
>me as pharah and mercy announce ults and push
>we wipe their team just the two of us
>cant hold the point alone for the 2nd wave and die
>we lose in overtime
>one widow says "shit team"
When will widow get nerfed so shitters stop playing her?
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>be on attack
>pick lucio cuz no healer
>fag picks mercy
>guess I'll pick symmetra then
>fag cries for me to "GO BACK LUCIO"
>tell him no
>hi quits with his buttbuddy he probably was going to stick to the whole time because he's a useless piece of shit
>win easily without him with no healer
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>>340719335
I really hope I never play with you
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How do I into Hanzo? I can't hit anything with him.
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>>340719383
I like Symmetra, but it's both disheartening and an achievement when the enemy team starts hunting your Turrets.
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>>340713872
Why don't they introduce some benefits for playing healers and tanks? Like every 3-4 games you play as one, you get an extra loot box?

Currently when I'm doing a solo queue I have to heal or tank in almost every game. I don't mind doing it from time to time but it just gets fucking boring.
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>>340719447
wont have to. zenyatta shitters get MMRd into the same matches as the other wasted slots like dva and symmetra
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>>340719531
literally just keep spamming arrows in the general direction of the enemy team.
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>>340718913
>>340719447
Zenyatta is garbage.

Just because he does decent headshot damage, and can shred tanks, doesn't actually mean he's useful, since fucking everyone does decent headshot damage save Lucio, and half the cast of character shreds tanks.
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>>340719563
Her weapon is suprisingly deadly, and her teleporter can keep more people at the front than mercy ever can with her ult.

Her turrets are weak and a mere annoyance, but cleverly placed turrets can net you some assists.
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>>340719397
>be on attack
>pick Symmetra
Is there something I don't know or is that just fucking retarded?
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>>340719615
The benefit is that you just raised your team's chances to win by a significant margin.
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>switch to healer!
>i go zenyatta

fuck off gaywads, stop taking the game so seriously

go join an e-team or whatever you queers call it
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I fucking love Symmetra on defense
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>>340719682
She deals damage, gives shields, and has a teleporter. Have you never gone Torb on offense, you fucking shitter?
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>>340719709
Sure, but most people prefer playing damage dealers, me included. If there were benefits for playing characters that most people find more boring, then perhaps everyone would be encouraged to pick them from time to time, making the game more fun for everyone.
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>>340719682
I spam Turrets on the payload. Messes up Genji's and melee scrubs.
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OVERWATCH FAGS LEAVE TO /VG/

NOOOOOWWWWWWW

SHOOO, SCRAM, SKEDADDLE!
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>>340719682
to be fair, the defenders had two to three useless people with bastion and reinhardt and occasionally mercy camping in some corner which i could easily fuck up with her secondary attack because they simply wouldn't move.
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>>340719862
Torb on offence is halarious, just push with your team and shit out turrets, dont even need to upgrade them.

Who cares if they die.
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>>340719862
No, I like winning.
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>>340719828
A symmetry portal can be so useful and even win games, im glad one of my friends plays her a lot on defense.
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>>340719383

Symmetra is not a support and most certainly not a healer, she is a walking teleporter and that's it. Mercy+Sym is a nice combination but by no means is a solo Sym ever a good idea on defense.
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>>340713872
I just don't pick healer because I'm not gay or a girl.

I wouldn't mind having a healslut though, Flying around as pharah is comfy as fuck.
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>>340720113
>Symmetra is not a support and most certainly not a healer, she is a walking teleporter and that's it
Not a support? But you just said it yourself, she provides a teleporter
and sentries
and shielding
and she fuck people up in 1v1

Sounds like a support, with spider-like tactics of sentry+beam
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>>340719973
I still have Mercy pics to dump.
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>>340719973
>I don't know how boards work
This isn't a general. It doesn't belong on /vg/
This is a (non general) video game thread. It belongs on /v/
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>>340719563
>Winston jumps in, spins his camera around wildly and kills all turrets in 0.25 seconds
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>>340714253
funny how fags expect so much from Zenyatta when he does more damage support than healer.
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>>340713872
>"someone pls go support
>pubby mcnigger: "ok"
>puggy mcnigger has changed to symmetra (was genji)
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>>340713872
I'll repost since its relevant here anyways:

>Pick widow
>People in chat telling me to switch
>Widow is what I'm very good with, so no I wont
Its easy guys, if something upset you, go ahead an switch. Not only is this unranked, but I dont know you, so I'll play what I,m good with, and actually contribute this way. I wont take a healer that I never touched just to fill a role I will half-ass.
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>>340720269
The problem is that she doesn't heal (other than the pitiful shield regeneration), so she provides no sustain, which makes people think she's not support. Just like how people think anyone but Reinhardt is not a tank because they don't have a gigantic shield.

To be honest at the moment she might as well be labeled Defense, but she can fit in both.
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>>340720593
>enemy team has junkrat
>destroys turrets by accident
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>>340719737
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>>340720068
Symmetra is very hard to play against a good team since they'll send a Genji or Tracer to destroy your teleporter every time it's up.
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>>340719397
double healer is perfectly good you mongoloid
mercy + lucio ( constant speed boost/ passive healing + reviving ftw )
lucio + zeny ( make the robot ass less squishy and able to move further in the battlefield and debuff big fat fuck )
mercy + zeny ( same )

you just need a good team and not 4 genji with that.
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>>340720765
The only Tank I wouldn't call a tank is Roadhog, but that has nothing to do with "no shield" and more to do with "no way of taking damage for teammates other than literally getting in the way of attacks" - he's more of a tanky DPS with some CC than an actual tank
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>>340720864
Tracer dies nearly instantly to 4+ turrets even if she hits rewind
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>>340720269

She's a Defense hero, not much different than Torb. Winning any game without a hero that can heal is almost impossible, winning defense without one is really not going to happen unless the attackers are multiple skill tiers below the defenders.
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Overwatch reminded me why I dislike team games

I quit LoL back in S2 for similar reasons

I'd be more inclined to play it if Ranked doesn't match me with premades like quickplay does
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>>340713872
That you need to go fast, heal fast and push people into holes AND BREAK IT DOWN
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>>340720891
Zenyatta is only good if your team also has a symettra and toblerone who give you shields + armor, or if the enemy widowmaker/pharah/tracer is unreasonably shit
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>>340719828
>be symmetra on the last of anubis
>everyone tell me to switch
>ambush every fag with my poo gun aka the indian backburner
>potg

never made my team so mad in the chat
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>>340719158
>"Widowmaker is my main"
>I don't care, we need offense
There problem solved
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>>340720921
Roadhog should have his own category - "the best".

>best offense
>best defence
>best support
>most fun
>most fair
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>>340721007
Only 6 turrets will ever kill a Tracer instantly and even then, it's nothing more than a one death sucker punch since she knows where it is now and can double blink through it.
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>>340721086
>when your team is so trash you get 5 golds as lucio
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Healers are nowhere near as necessary as they pretend to be especially mercy who can't do anything solo. Half the characters have self heal function so they make a healer useless for them. The others can just find the medkits every two steps to heal themselves. A competent team can easily go without a healer and a shit team won't be carried by a healer. If its a shit team that doesn't have a healer I would rather go rienhardt or zarya to prevent damage and push the objective.
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lucio can do it all. what an amazing hero
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>>340721146
Symmetra is literally the best defender on anubis
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>>340721216
>tf2 fags that say this game has no advanced movement
I kek everytime
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>>340721121
If the team talk and protect each other it's good enough for me, I can revive him/boost his defense if something bad happen. An offensive zenyatta with a good team is terrific.
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>>340721209
>Half the characters have self heal function
More like 2
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>>340721216
What the fuck
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>>340721154
>OffenSe
>DefenCe

Why you do dis?
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>>340721154
best ulti dispenser for the ennemy team.
Hanzo build his assdragon in 10 seconds because of this fat fuck.
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>>340721206
>3k dmg
>15 elim
>Gold

kek
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>>340721463
To make you mad

;^)
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>>340714990
>Argue that I'll go tank if one of those faggots switches to heal
>No response
>Said fuck it and bailed
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>>340721463
not everyone is a native english speaker.
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what happened to it saving your plays of the game? when mine disappeared I assumed they just cleared them out occasionally to free up space but I had two today with reinhardt I was wanting to see again/possibly save
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>>340721512
My point exactly

Love that attempted forced 50% win rate
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>>340721409
Super-powered rollerskates
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>>340721569
I'm not saying it's wrong, both spellings are correct. It's just that he used the American spelling for one word and the UK spelling for the other.
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>>340721348
>jump on wall to automatically ride
>you just have to jump to another surface to reset the move (it last 3 seconds )
>advanced
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>>340721409
Lucio's wallride is seriously underrated
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>>340720864
>>340721175
Symmetra is a soft counter to Tracers and Genjis, Just defend your shit yourself instead of thinking orb harass is doing anything against anyone that isnt a retarded Reinhardt
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>>340719828
>join a game in progress
>pick symmetra
>we are at the last checkpoint
>block off the side room so they can't duck in there to avoid our fire
>get like 10 kills from weak people going in there or people focusing turrets as I right them
>put a transporter in the room opposite it
>get team wiped by a great push from the enemy
>they push the payload past that room but don't see the teleporter
>my entire team respawns uses the teleporter and fucks them in the ass
>get every vote on my team for having the teleporter up right there
Man it feels good to play symmetra
She is just such an underrated character and I have shut down so many defense matches with her
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>get put into a game that loses in less than 10 seconds
if you aren't in the game for at least a minute it shouldn't count against you
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>>340715716
>You're playing a non offense class.
>You're playing Lucio.
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>>340721830
Symmetra counters every flanker not just Tracer and Genji. You will always be forced to focus on destroying her turrets first before doing anything and then get fucked because you triggered the alarm.

Also one thing I thought about is why not make Genji invisible to Widowmakers Ultimate? He's a Ninja after all and should be the only one able to sneak past enemies without noticing even with Wallhacks on.
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>play as genji
>be a constant thorn on the side of the enemy team
>eliminations left and right, as they can't get rid off me.
>match still comes really close, especially when two enemy players start using McRees.
>literally few seconds from them winning, I charge in, reflect their bs revolver shots, use my ultimate, and chop up the mcrees and their mercy, and wound their roadhog rather heavily allowing my team mates to push the survivors away from the payload for the crucial 10 seconds we needed.
>we win by the skin of our necks.
>play of the game goes to that god damn dwarf and his faggy turret.

It wasn't even anything particularly impressive. Just his turret blowing few guys up as he molten cored and that's it. Pissed me off like hell. I was practically carrying our fucking team.
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>>340721830
If the enemy team has a competent Tracer/Genji, you'll be spending all of your time defending your teleporter and even then it's likely to be destroyed in most maps.

>mfw got the achievement for 4 destroyed teleporters just yesterday
The Symmetra must have been fuming.
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>>340721872

Technically it doesn't, or rather it didn't.

In the closed beta the stats screen showed your actual Win/Loss figures up at the top, unfortunately the babies whined that it was hurting their feelings so they took away the Loss stat and replaced it by just showing your Wins. They also had it set so that if you joined an in progress game via backfilling it was impossible for that game to count as a loss, it was only possible to get a win. The problem? Instead of showing straight up Wins/Losses the game now shows Wins and Games Played in your stats screen, where before backfilling a game meant you would never get a LOSS for it in the current setup backfilling still counts as a GAME PLAYED.

So yeah, it used to not be a loss but now it is because they forgot to fix it when they catered to retards.
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>>340722007
I always feel sad when I end up clearing a team out as Genji for a game winning push but don't get any cards. Makes me feel like no one realized what I did.

:(
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>>340721216
That's the stuff
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How do you guys deal with the MMR system in games like this?

It's pretty hard to tell whether or not I'm improving when my win rate is always going to float around 50%.
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>>340721951
the only question is WHY THE FUCKING ENTIRE TEAM CAN USE WIDOW ULTIMATE FOR FUCK SAKE WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>>340721367
>mei
>bastion
>tracer
>soldier 76
>roadhog
>D.Va's mech relaunches with full hp
>reaper gets heals off kill
>zarya has shields that regen half her HP
>same for zenyatta and symmetra
>torbjorn can give himself and others 75 HP
>winston receives full hp when entering his ult and returns to 500 if he doesn't lose more than half
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>>340721743
Spotted the tf2 fag
:^)
Its like spot the vegan but vidya related
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>>340722158
Same here man.
I guess that people just assume that Genji player=shit, because most Genjis honestly are rather bad.
Genji is hard to use effectively, but if you know what you are doing, you can be one of the most effective harassment heroes in the game, and your ultimate allows you to chop up pretty much anybody in seconds.
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>>340722007
>>340722158
>Genji ultimate
>impressive


yeah, you can two shot everything with a blade that should be labelled as a sniper weapon since you can hit something standing at 202051 billions kilometers from you. And every kill reset your dash so you go at sonic speed.
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>>340722552
Genji's ultimate does nothing for his survivability though, so you can still get instagibbed by Roadhogs, Junkrats, Hanzos, etc.

One of the first things to learn as a Genji is when to ult.
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>>340722646
yeah cause it's so hard to flank with a character who can double jump and walljump without making any noises.
Also people in pub are generally retarded and never fucking look behind, even when I mercy I have to take care of the reaper/mcreeeeee myself. I don't know, maybe the THUMP THUMP THUMP they made when they walk isn't fucking loud enough for my retarded team.
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If you're playing Pharah and you don't get a card at the end of the game for direct rocket hits, fucking why are you even playing her because you're absolutely useless.
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>>340722861
>yeah cause it's so hard to flank

Won't save you if no one is distracting the enemy team since they tend to all focus you as soon as you scream

RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE
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>>340723036

All you have to do is to wait for them to start fighting before jumping in from above, your team doesn't even need to be good.
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>>340722925
That's a dumb way to see it.

I've seen cards for 30-40 rockets. That's roughly my average.
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>>340713872
I stopped playing the game because every single one there would be no fucking tank or healer, it had to be me EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME or we have none and lose

Fuck the community
>>
I brought the vigilante mcree skin and a few boxes later i got it as a duplicate, just kill me now
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>>340723631
>tfw you're a medic main on tf2 and love healing
>people never spit on you for having a main since basically no one want to play mercy
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>>340713872
Probably that they're sick of /v/ taking stale ass /tv/ memes and using them every single fucking day
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>>340722552
Anything Genji can do is far more impressive than what that gay Swedish dwarf can do.
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>>340724234
>having to compare yourself with the fucking afk dwarf to shine
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>>340713872
It means
>Ive sucked a million dicks and dont know how to avoid getting shot
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>>340718335

He can but the turret's ROF is so low it's not worth doing most of the time.
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I hope they make it so you cannot pick 2 of the same hero, it's fucking annoying playing with 2 widowmakers or 2 genjis
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>>340720921

I'd also call D.Va not a tank since her headshot box is so large even enemy supports can solo you with ease. Not to mention revive doesn't work on her mech.
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>>340719737

>defence
>3 junkrats, know this is gonna be awful, pick curry support
>All of them are fucking terrible, no surprise
>Soloing tanks myself because I can actually hit them with my balls unlike these shitters
>"Anon we need healing not teleport!"
>"Anon switch to heal!"
>"Anon please carry me because I can't aim for shit!"
>Switch to Torb just to annoy them
>"We lost because Anon wouldn't play as team."
>Not a single junkrat was on the cards at the end.

I'm not sure how healing would fix their piss poor aim.
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>get three wallriding killing blows as Lucio in one match

easily the most bullshit achievement in the game
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>>340725860
doesn't memeing them off the edge with your secondary count? wait until koth in moonland and get them as they cross the bridge to reach the middle area. you can slide across the wall right by there.
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>>340717125
it's an owl
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>>340725384
but 2 Winston's can be fun
>get in attack on ruski map
>pick Mercy
>two people go Winston
>proceed to chimp out on the other team
>win instantly
was a blast
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>>340726409
>not 12 winstons
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>>340726472
He's not looking for a Detroit simulator.
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>>340726057
Yeah but you have to be wallriding when they actually die too
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>>340726549
looooool
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>>340726553
It wouldn't be so bad if the wall riding mechanic wasn't so fiddly. The maps have way too much geometry. You get caught up everywhere.
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>>340721951
>Hanamura
>attacking
>see Symmetra on enemy team
>switch to Zarya
>enter cap full of turrets
>shield self
>immediately max damage boost
>friendly mercy switching between healing and damage boost
>steamroll the defenders
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I pick Tor wherever people ask for support. Tor is secretly the best support character
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>>340716375
>aim shoot
WooooooW
It's funny how I always meet the same widows. They never play differently or better than others they are all mostly the same skill level. Kind of nice aim but that's not hard to do. Because 1shot = kill and if not they just shoot another one right after it. The Skill ceiling for her is pretty much zero.
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WHO

THE FUCK

CARES

Blizzard tried to create "interesting" healers, but then forgot that each hero can only have a maximum of three abilities.
This game's "in depth" character balance is a trainwreck, because none of the characters have enough depth to support it.
And not even one of them takes any amount of skill. Some are actually anti-skill.
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>>340727536
Four abilities, actually.

>shift
>E
>ult
>alt-fire
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>>340727536
>maximum of three abilities
>shift
>e
>right click
>q
>secondary weapons (e.g. Mercy's pistol)
>left click if you want to be really technical

that's six
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>>340727783
>abilities
Shooting isn't an ability and neither is changing weapons.
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>>340727947
But if you can't shoot, you lack the ability to shoot. Therefore, shooting is an ability.
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>>340718913
>CAPITALISING
>SUPPOSED
>comp
Fuck off back to facebook
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>>340727947
Alright, ignoring Mercy's pistol/2nd weapon:

>Heal (left click)
>Damage boost (right click)
>Flight (shift)
>Resurrect (Q)
4 right there. But wait, there's more, if we include some more contentious abilities:
>Glide (space)
>Melee hit (F)
>Pistol fire (2nd weapon)
That's 7.
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>>340718335
>use your amazing ninja reflexes and your ninja sword to reflect LIGHTNING
What the fuck were you expecting
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>>340723903
Pharah X Mercy OTP <3
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I never have trouble with this sort of thing, people are always filling the empty slots. I guess it helps that I mainly play support unless that spot is taken. I also never read any arguing in the chat or anything.

Is this an American thing? Or maybe at the higher levels of matchmaking?
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>>340728359
>Melee hit (F)
>Pistol fire (2nd weapon)
I think you're the first in history who's dumb enough to say these things are abilities in a fucking FPS.
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>>340728492
They are though. Mercy's pistol is her damaging ability. How you can't comprehend this just means you're a retard.
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>>340728589
You're playing a shooter, shooting is not an ability.
Using abilities however, are and changing your weapon is not a fucking ability either.
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>>340728492
You're definitely right. Reinhardt's charge and fire strike aren't abilities, since they do damage. Soldier's rocket isn't an ability either. Or Symettra's charged shot. Or Winston's leap. Or Roadhog's chain. etc. etc. etc.

Also the original post said everyone was capped at 3 abilities, and the even without the Melee and Pistol it's still at 5 abilities - and Mercy doesn't even have an E.
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>>340728737
>You're definitely right. Reinhardt's charge and fire strike aren't abilities, since they do damage.
Nice goalposts.
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>>340728646
How can this go so over your head? I'm done bro, you're hopeless.
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>>340728646
Reinhardt cannot shoot.
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>>340713872
>what do they mean by this?
I wish this was a ban-able offense
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>>340728492
Plenty of shooters don't have a quick-melee ability, you fucking underaged faggot
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>lose 4 out of 5 games
>think everyone I'm playing with sucks
>suddenly realize I'm probably the one that sucks
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>>340728840
How can it be so difficult for you to just add a simple filter?
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>>340728886
Want to believe it's my team being shitters.

>4 gold medals
>They are being shitters.
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>>340729358
King of shit, you're still shit
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>Widowmaker is TF2 Sniper on steroids
>faster charge
>no forced unscope
>grappling hook to positioning
>headshot hitboxes even bigger
>smg without switching weapons
>mine on top of this, not a big deal tho
>ult is to SEE THROUGH FUCKING WALLS for not just her, but WHOLE TEAM, ruining potential for any surprise flanking tactics

how did anyone look at this character and say "yes, this is balanced"
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>>340729474
Because everyone in the game is OP compaired to TF2
The fucking Demoman has an instant jump and unlimited Ammo
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>>340729474
Don't forget that her assault rifle mode is still one of the higher DPS weapons in the game

and even though the mines are basically useless as a weapon, they let you know someone's about to be near you so you can GTFO
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>>340729474

It's dumb, Widow with a pocket Mercy literally has no counter other than doing it yourself and hoping your Widow is better.

It's really stupid that Widow and Mercy have the best ultimates in the entire game, but what is even dumber is that they are also the fastest charging ultimates in the game.
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>>340729642
Eh, the power disparity between Demoman and Junkrat isn't nearly as big as Sniper/Widow, and overpoweredness on the 1-shot hitscan class has a much bigger effect on the game.
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>>340729859
Seriously this. I charged Mercy's ult before the round even hit the 30 second mark. It's way too fast coupled with the fact it recovers everyone to full hp, no matter what.

It should only rez people with a % of their health based on the % mercy completes her ult animation. So, if she does instantly, her teammates rez with like 10 hp.
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>>340727351
Better aim = higher skill. That's what a skill ceiling is. Because aiming has such a high potential (up to being on par with an aimbot), that makes the ceiling high.
>>
My rule of thumb is If more than two people instalocks something and one of them bitches about not having X I'm just going to play what I want
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>>340729859
Reinhardt.

Widowmaker cannot shoot through his shield. Then all you need to do is have your Soldier/Pharah/Widow/Hanzo/Torbjorn/Genji/Bastion/Mercy shoot back.

Or get a D.Va to fly at them, push Mercy away, and two-shot them. Though admittedly this won't work if she's too far away for the boosters to reach, or if you miss a shot and Widow ziplines away (but D.Va's boosts have a much shorter cooldown than the hook so you should be able to get her anyway, it'll just take longer)
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>game mechanics in Overwatch
>ult that can 1-shot entire team without aiming just for being at right place at right time
>ult that can undo a 5-person wipe just for being at the right place at the right time
>ult that is wallhacks for whole team

I was honestly shocked the first time I played Mercy and used her ult. I expected to rez the nearest teammate/the one my crosshair was closest too, but then half my team came back too.

Regardless of how hard it may or may not be to pull off, it just seems stupid to even build in this type of shit. Like, all the skill required to outdm 5/6 players, and the last one can just undo that and be like "lmao no".
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>>340730139
If two people on my team pick the same character and start bitching, I always pick the same one they did just to rustle them even more
>>
>Go 6 Soldiers for laughs
>win British map in 3 minutes
It's honestly kinda shocking how effective it is
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>someone ELSE go healer

Fixed that for you. The people who shout shit like that are never useful on a team. Guaranteed 100%.

Your k/d is meaningless if you are still losing.
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>>340730164

A Dva will get absolutely shredded by a damage amped and healed widow, Dva can't even damage Mercy's heal. Banking on a decent push-off isn't a realistic counter.

Widow isn't going to give a fuck about a reinhardt shield when she's amped, she's just going to do a good job of breaking it to support the rest of her team. Having your entire team shoot at her from across the map through a reinhardt shield isn't a counter because you're going to get cleaned up by the rest of her team.

Like I said, your best counter is to just do it yourself.
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>>340730219
That's usually why I play Winston and just hunt down the support

Then my team still loses the 5v5
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>>340730130
Everyone had the same aim. It was good but that was it. 80% of the widowplayers have the same skill.
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>>340730219
If you don't kill the Mercy first your team fucking deserves to get all their work undone

Seriously the reason they're called "support" is because if you kill them the rest will fall down

Unless it's symettra in which case yeah just kill her whenever
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>>340730437
>If you don't kill the Mercy first

Typically the enemy team will try to stop you from doing this

>your team fucking deserves to get all their work undone

Disagree fundamentally that this is good competitive balance. It's a Mario Party-tier mechanic.
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>>340730437

>Mercy is just sitting back chilling with the Widow being the best combo in the game
>Entire team gets wiped in the fight
>Shift flies in to the dead body and revives them all

It isn't that simple.
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>>340730406
>aim
>shoot
>hit
>zoom out
>zoom in
>shoot again if the enemy survived
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>mates cry I should pick support
>Pick symmetra

Fuck being a healbitch.
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>>340730164
>feel like being a useless piece of shit and pick widowmaker
>entire enemy team is just walking forward behind Reinhardt's shield
>I just can't shoot anyone because they're behind Reinhardt
>they just walk forward and lead the payload to the first point, my team is nowhere to be seen
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