Are there any MMO's worth playing?
Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
>>340687690
>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
No
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
No
Tree of Savior was the last hope, and even that turned out to be garbage.
MMOs are dead.
>>340687817
Revelation looks ok
>>340687690
No, its either dying or prone to fail Sub based games, pay2win cash shop games, or korean grind fest (generally coupled with a cash shop)
Tons of hype then a total crash, I'm looking at you Blade and Soul.
Warframe if you consider that an MMO
Blade & Soul's single player mode is worth playing, and while you're doing that you'll most likely do some MP content as well.
Current MMOs are all trash except for the really old ones like Ultima
good upcoming MMOs include Albion Online (complete sandbox) and Camelot Unchained (Realm vs Realm vs Realm large scale PvP)
>>340687690
I had fun with FFXIV for about 4-5 months, and this is someone who is very against paying a monthly.
Blade and Soul is really fun combat, shame about the rest of everything else.
TERA has good T&A, and decent combat. Pretty world, too, but certainly is "Go kill X of Y creature."
Black Desert is clearly a korean grinder, but it really is a gorgeous game with decent atmosphere.
>>340688672
>>340688487
>recommending themeparks
kill yourselves
steam just got this tactics light ufo online cyka blyat game that is a bit grindy but heavy on the player economy
>>340688741
Theme park MMOs are the only fun to be had nowadays.
At least you can spend some time looking around a pretty world and learning the combat systems.
GW2 is great for a few months, in this respect.
What would you recommend, anon?
>>340688741
>themeparks
Please take your train and return to reddit as soon as possible.
ESO is fantastic compared to any other MMO on the market right now.
>>340687690
is there a western version of kufii already ffs?
>>340689112
>ESO is fantastic
laughingelfman.jpg
>>340689112
Isn't really saying much desu.
>>340687690
Nope. Genre is dead.
Even the mmo hoppers are starting to abandon ship entirely.
>>340687690
>>340687817
>>340687986
Legion looks incredible
I kind of want to play Civilization Online.
Looks like fun.
>>340687690
Faggot.
>>340689237
>>340689304
I'm not joking. It's actually a really good game.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-mmos/5/
>>340687690
Most MMOs are worth playing if you simply have friends. I'm not talking about normie friends who play a few hours weekly and you end up outlevelling them too much, I mean no lifers just like you who don't mind playing at least 6 hours each day.
The second thing is(what I did in Tera and BnS) is simply getting to the max as soon as possible and joining the most active 4chin guild(for Tera it was the /a/ guild, in BnS it was a multiboard guild). After that all you need to do is slowly join the circlejerk(every guild has them, you'll notice them straight away) and then I ended up playing 10 hours a day with them grinding dungeons while talking about all kind of random shit on mumble. It was pretty fun.
>>340689112
The game is great but it would be so much better if they just implemented the bloody spellcrafting system we'll never ever see. A proper duelling system and arena-style battlegrounds wouldn't be bad either. The Kvatch Arena is perfect in size.
>>340689112
E3 can't come fast enough. Last year they presented Imperial City way before E3 but now we've heard fuck all from em.
>>340689616
>tfw didn't even make it to max in TERA because it got so fucking boring without a friend
hate having normie friends
>>340687690
The only decent online RPGs are the instanced ones. "Vast and living open world" is just an overpriced decoration nowadays, even on big and popular MMOs most of the actual action happens on instances with a group of players that got automatically together by using a party queue system.
Right now I'm playing Dungeon Fighter Online. It is an old game but still pretty fun.
>>340690267
Tera was not so terrible. The game gives you double xp perks for free for like 3 days. Used some levelling guide and got to max in like 25~ hours.
BnS on the other hand, holy shit. Levelling took fucking forever, same 3 fucking quests over and over again. Could not even grind any mobs for quick xp, you basically had to do the quests.
>>340690489
Fatigue ruins this game for me every time I try to play it. Either I don't get to play as much as I want to, or I start feeling obligated to log in and use all my fatigue everyday and the game feels like a second job and so I lose interest.
>>340688929
>play GW2 to early 20s
>completely lose interest in the same thing over and over and over and ogre
I regret wasting my $20.
all mmos a shit
i don't even know what i want from them anymore. at least wow felt novel at the time -_-?
Camelot Unchained, Chronicles of Elyria, Pantheon Rise of the Fallen, saga of lucimi and Star Citizen are the MMOs I'm keeping my eye on atm. Too bad they're all coming out next year if even then.
>>340690171
I hate that fucking frog so much.
>>340689389
>0.05 blizzbucks have been deposited into your account
>>340690962
Camelot Unchained is like Spring 2018 at the earliest, they just started modeling shit and creating the terrain
>>340687690
>Black Desert
Just
>Tree of Savior
fuck
>Blade and Soul
my
>ArcheAge
shit
I played XIV because I liked the story.
>>340691305
I actually enjoyed BnS but I had to stop due to some real life stuff.
I come back not 3 months after release and I hear it's a barren wasteland filled with only bots.
>>340691461
lol
>>340690783
I stopped caring about my FP after I maxed my f.slayer on one of the old leveling race events.
It is far more fun to take it easy and forget about that thing. I don't even remember the last time I fully burned my FP on my main character, even when I spend the whole night playing with it.
Endgame is focused on dungeons with very few rooms but with fairly long battles (so, more time per FP), so FP is irrelevant most of the time.
>>340687690
>what is Old School Runescape
>>340691461
>get FFXIV recommended to me
>it's practically a singleplayer game
Fuck all MMOs with a main story quest that treats you like some special chosen savior.
>>340687690
Pantheon if you want Everquest.
how is Wildstar now that its on steam?
BDO is the best sandbox in the longest. it just came out, has top of line graphics, great gameplay, and is b2p with no monthly fees. its getting constant stream of content updates and new content
>>340691993
>BDO
>sandbox
lol
Also riddled with hackers
>Start playing private servers in 2008 waiting for something good to come along
>Still playing private servers in 2016
All they had to do was make RO HD or FFXI HD
Kill me please
I'm having fun in Black Desert.
>>340691742
What is that armor?
>>340687690
Guess i'm looking forward to your pic realted, kingdom under fire 2
Most MMO's have issues so technically it's no.
>>340688629
How good is albion online?
True sandbox and player housing give me boners, and it seems that this game has both.
>>340691461
Everything in XIV is decent to great (the soundtrack is the best thing about it, it manages to make even the more dull encounters enjoyable), except the community and the gameplay.
The mediocre combat would be more enjoyable if the itemization wasn't so fucking shitty, it might as well not even exist. Plus the guaranteed welfare updates and being indirectly forced by the community to read/watch guides really kills it to me.
You have to be either a hardcore raider always ready for the next challenge before people start to publish guides, a casual ERPing while waiting for the next welfare patch, or someone that plays the game once every six months to enjoy the story. Any attempt of "midcore playing" XIV is sadly pointless.
>>340692874
>kingdom under fire 2
I forgot that this shit existed.
>heard about it back when I played KuF: H
>that was like 9 years ago
wew
FOnline
Just kidding.
>>340693341
dammit anon, I really didn't need those feels. For op, should look at world adrift, it's an upcoming physics based open world sandbox mmo where you design, craft, and fly airships.
>>340692131
>RO HD
There is a RO remake being developedfor tablets.
It is supposed to keep most of the old gameplay elements, like class system, hat collecting and old stats like crazy attack speed, plus new stuff likehand-holding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17aw6R84dCw
FFXI got a spin-off on android and will get a port/remake/something in the future too.
Has anyone tried:
Gloria Victis? Been in beta for awhile, is just now on steam.
>>340688629
I'd add to that list:
Crowfall
The two Darkfall reboots/revamps (one is straight old Darkfall, the other is adding "more sand to the box" inspired by UO stuff)
Life is Feudal
Chronicles of Elyria (just had kickstarter so long ways away)
Shards Online
Das Tal
There are more, that's off the top of my head. All of them could turn out to be godawful, just saying they fit mostly into the "sandbox" type mold.
>>340692991
I'm not a backer but had kept up with Albion news for a bit - one thing i didn't like was pvp looked a lot like zerg vs zerg. However, like you said, the sandbox stuff looks neat so far and I enjoy their artstyle. If it's half as fun as what they promise i'd buy it at launch, assuming I can find a guild so I'm not edgy loner that quits in a month.
>>340691993
BDO is garbage, if you get into it now you will never catch up to the End-Game PvPers unless you poopsock. The combat is PvE combo spam or PvP combo spam, the latter being locked behind having better gear than your opponent. The end game is non-existent bar mindless grind, and they removed all penalties for PvPing, so there's no reason to even bother doing it anymore.
Only people left are desperately hoping things get better, levelling alts because there's no content left, poopsockers who are still grinding all day like they have been doing since release, or casual scum.
>>340692131
>west will never get DQX
>>340687690
i'm actually really enjoying ToS for some reason
maybe it's just because it's the first game in a long time that's let me progress by mindlessly grinding shit
>>340691742
Hell Yeah Baby, easily the best MMO
>>340694061
BDO IS garbage, and even with poopsocking you won't catch up to the end-game pvpers. it would require both poopsocking and paying real money and even then you'll be behind.
To be fair, BDO's pay2win isn't as absurd as ArcheAge but it's still there. Being less shitty doesn't make something not-shitty.
Also should note, BDO is not remotely a "sandbox" game but I don't want to be a jargon faggot.
The character creator is pretty neat, however. And the game is really pretty (assuming someone can stomach korean garbage). Still wildly un-fun at max level without shelling out quite a bit of money combined with being a neet.
I have a friend who plays very casually and roleplays nonstop. He's a nice dude but is also a massive literal faggot. So there is one endorsement for BDO - casual homosexuals enjoy it.
>>340691710
>elf
>drills
>blunt bangs
>brown
>necromaner
Yes.
>>340687690
i like neverwinter
>>340694772
the only reason people consider it sandbox is because some of the lifeskills aren't completely retarded compared to most mmos, and the whole mostly open world thing besides red battlefield
>>340687690
FF14, but only for reasons unrelated to it being an MMO.
The only MMO's I enjoy playing are Trickster Online for its simplicity, and Minecraft for the pvp (pre 1.9).
>>340692131
>>340693575
One of my biggest regrets is missing out on playing RO in its heyday.
It looks super fun but it seems like the newest actual version is garbage and dead and all the private servers and shit are equally dead.
I was really hoping that ToS would live up to the hype cause it definitely seemed like the same sort of game, but then it came out and it's just a buggy and laggy mess.
;_;
If you like an amazingly interesting story with great missions/attention to detail and are willing to put up with an OK combat system, The Secret World is great.
Basic premise, modern world except every conspiracy is true. Less cringy than you'd expect from the shorthand version. One of the few horror-themed MMO's. Most of it winds up being hack n' slash but there are actually pretty spooky moments if you look for them, and the investigation missions (puzzle quests) have some of the most ridiculous solutions. You'll be translating ancient hebrew, morse code, killing yourself to talk to dead parrots and all kinds of other shit.
Servers are sorta low population these days but the game puts you in low population instances anyways to maintain the horror atmosphere. Don't have any of my cool screenshots since I wiped my PC but have this.
>>340695515
>Minecraft
>MMO
>Minecraft
>pvp
Pick none.
>>340687690
I'm playing RIFT right now. It has the basic WoW formula, but alot of extra features and it's free.
There is a patron mode that is essentially p2w as it gives extra money and exp. But the economy is so fucked anyways, everyone already has a 65 and money is everywhere.
It's got some fantastic scenery too.
Great animations for NPC's.
All the PVP is high tier only. No lv50. No lv20. You're either 65 or not.
Since the community is smaller, they tend to be more helpful as well.
>>340695234
You're a fag that perpetuates the idea that FR is the best setting ever
Love,
a DDO shitter
>>340689616
TERA healing was fun. It forced you to stay near your teammates, and your teammates to stay near you. Plus everyone worked efficiently as a group.
>>340687690
>worth playing
arguably yes. WoW, FFXIV, GW2, EVE are all decent. if you don't like MMOs you won't like them but they're complete packages with sustainable user numbers
>worth looking forward to
Pretty much no. So many MMOs came out so quickly trying to emulate WoW and so many were complete failures, I think companies lost their appetite for MMOs. The only ones in production are shitty kickstarter ones.
>>340695684
When you're on a map where you can build, you find amazing group dynamics and on-the-fly cooperation. It's actually kinda amazing when twelve people can independently do their own thing, yet simultaneously work as a single unit to complete a task.
Minecraft is fun. So sorry it doesn't have elves with huge knockers jiggling about.
>>340695878
I know it's basically beating a dead horse but I really wish EVE was more interesting moment to moment and didn't require so much time investment to be worthwhile.
It seems super cool especially with all the factions and player interactions, but every time I've spun up a trial account I get bored so quickly. Maybe if I had a second monitor to toss up a show or something on it in between bits where I actually need to be doing something in-game it'd be better.
>>340695878
Are the EVE novels worth reading? I'm looking for a good sci-fi fantasy novel about space pirates/mercenaries flying about and doing shit in deep space.
>>340696020
I don't think you understand what MMO means. Enjoy the amazing Minecraft pvp, I guess.
>>340695726
what?
>>340696174
"Multi Massive Online"
Explain to me how that doesn't apply to multiplayer Minecraft as I described it?
Also, I can't enjoy it anymore. My wife won't let me play.
>>340695878
What this guy said
>>340696286
>married
>cuck
Back to Facebook.
>>340696134
EVE is probably the most impressive MMO on the market, sandboxes have always been my favorite. I don't play it actively anymore, your complaints are accurate. It's not a game about dogfighting or moment-to-moment action, it's a huge scale sandbox where you can play the game so many different ways. Unless you care about the economy or sovereignty though it's unlikely to keep you hooked, those are the big draws of sandboxes. I desperately want a decent fantasy sandbox, or even a ground-level scifi sandbox like SWG. Spaceships alone don't do it for me personally, but if you like spaceships EVE is the GOAT.
EVE doesn't require a huge time investment though, join a corp, get in voice chat, they can get you going and you can probably be doing something useful within a few days.
>>340696171
Haven't read any, sorry friend. I'm not much of an EVE lore buff.
>>340695684
I'd agree that minecraft isn't technically an mmo, but 1.9 pvp is really fun.
>build secret base with traps
>raid people, make rude signs
>wait for them to find you to take revenge
>watch them die to traps as you feel clever
>literally a room labeled "diamond storage" full of traps and they fall for it everytime
of course it normally goes like:
>raid someone
>they use hacks and find your secret base asap, murder you repeatedly
but it's still fun when it plays like it should.
A trick i always use is to have a room decorated like a bedroom with my bed, but my "real" bed is hidden so when cunts break in and raid my shit, murder me and destroy the bed (thinking I'll pop back at spawn), i respawn in my secret "ready room" with weapons/armor and can race back and avenge myself.
It's super fucking dorky but secret base hiding/finding is fun for me. Too bad I'm shit at all other aspects of the game.
>>340696264
I'm upset that everyone fucking creams their pants over forgotten realms and perfectly fine settings like Eberron, which DDO was primarily set in, are pushed to the side to make room for that content.
>>340687690
why why why does KuF2 need to be a korean MMO. what a terrible waste of a great IP.
>>340696134
I've been playing Eve for about a week and a half and this is my main complaint. I haven't been able to do much of anything except mine incompetently because I've been waiting for my skills to train. And since skills raise over time according to how you queue them, I haven't been able to make my mining or industry more efficient because that would mean it would add days to my queue when I'm trying to train into PvP.
At least I joined a good corp that has a lot of programs in place to help new players out. When I need something like a skill book I just put a contract out and they send me what they need. Their fleets are newbie friendly but I still don't want to join if all I'll be able to fly is a condor or atron, and poorly at that.
>>340695673
i played it for like an hour and i couldn't figure out how to get a 1st person view, though i've read through google that you can.
would like to get into it.
>>340688629
>>340694041
>good upcoming MMO
>turns out to be shit
everytime /v/
For fucks sake, don't you remember what happened last time they "upgraded" Darkfall?
Has anyone played any of the swgemu servers? Either the main one or the various offshoots? I played awhile back on the main one and development is good but very very slow - recently went looking on the swgemu subreddit but it's a lot of drama involving various shards and it wasn't clear (from an outside perspective, anyhow) which servers weren't complete shit.
The main one, "basilisk", has plenty of people playing but also a super-fucked economy due to the ability to have so many characters on an account - so everyone that's a vet is self-sustaining. Great for testing purposes but kind of shit for actual gameplay.
I... just want to be an imperialbro and bounty hunt jedis again. And mostly die but I'm ok with that.
>>340694772
Nah, you can catch up, since even the poopsockers have fallen off with their grind nowdays, but you will never EVER be in the top 1%, you can make the top 5% though.
>>340696974
>For fucks sake, don't you remember what happened last time they "upgraded" Darkfall?
I do!
HOWEVER, "this time" aventurine has nothing to do with it. They licensed DF out to two different independent dev teams, mainly fans and some financial backers. Like I was saying, one is straight up redo of DF 1.0, the other is Darkfall with added shit.
You're 100% correct that either or both may turn out to be shit but since it's not like they're asking for money yet it's ok to at least be cautiously hopeful. Darkfall on paper is fucking great, i'd argue that it was mismanagement and incompetence that ruined it.
Then again I'm used to being disappointed so I'm immune at this point.
I'd pay for a non grindfest Silkroad.
Or maybe a relaunch of Dekaron/2moons.
>>340695593
Nothing will ever replicate what made these old games so great: the playerbase. Ragnarok was popular not just because it was a good game with great soundtrack, but because of every single player playing it.
RO had lots of features that are considered bad or simply pointless nowadays (no party finder, risk of loot/kill stealing, absolutely no direction of what to do, no quest book so you had to make notes by yourself, bosses with long respawn cooldown, the MVP reward system, etc), but they worked because the community supported them, and the devs released even more features focused on that growing community.
Modern MMOs are designed for a completely different audience, that is why we now have things like party finder, instanced content overshadowing open world content (if available at all, fully instanced games are quite popular nowadays), hand-holding tutorials, too much info on screen, single-player-oriented leveling, etc. The new audience want them, even demand them when they play older games that are still alive.
Before, everything was new and there are no set rules other than "lots of grinding ahead", so features are created and people adapted themselves to work with them. Now people expect specific features and the dev team deliver them on release (creating the "wow clone" effect).
>>340687817
>Ever placing hope in a Korean shitgame
LOL
>>340687690
Chronicles of Elyria is about it, could be the new Ultima I've always wanted if they don't backpedal.They always backpedal ;_;
I'm referencing this video for now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY9ItiE9NSc
>>340697516
Eve is similar in regards to the type of players it attracts. I think a good chunk of people (not a lot, but a decent amount) are getting tired of the single player MMO trash that theme parks bring, Eve is hitting the highest point in its population right now.
Whats the best MMO toERP and be a Slut in?
>>340697787
Honestly? Probably WoW.
D-Does anyone play Aura Kingdom? I just downloaded it.
>>340697787
FF XIV if you like cat girls and lolis, WoW if you like futa space goats
>>340697787
FFXIV.
>>340697361
aren't they still doing the same skill system as before with no hard caps in place? Sounds like there just repeating all the same old mistakes
>>340691993
>Calling BDO a sandbox
TOP FUCKING KEK, clowns like you who spout that BDO is a sandbox make me laugh because you make it so obvious you don't know what a sandbox is.
>>340697963
I remember that /vg/ had a thread about it but Aeria Games apparently fucked it beyond repair (well, it IS Aeria Games so it's probably true). Most decided to quit, others decided to play on private servers.
>>340698251
I used to think BDO was a sandbox until I played Eve
osrs is fun
>>340694772
How is it p2w? The only thing I ever saw in the cash shop that seemed like it'd influence pvp was the res stones
>>340698061
Two different "redos/reboots/whatever".
One is called, um, Rise of Agon. The other is "New Dawn.".
One of them is in fact doing the same shit with the skilll system like you said. The other is placing caps, similar to old UO. And of course right now i forget which is which since i'm stupid, so that's not helpful. But they are a ways off anyhow.
One is going for straight up redo of darkfall, the other is adding a bunch of shit, big ones being localized banking, better housing and guild territory controls, caps on skills, blah blah.
But again i should stress it all could change since they only got the licenses a few months ago.
>>340688629
>Albion Online (complete sandbox)
And pay2win.
>>340698510
Does it function like regular Runescape does (or did, maybe it changed since the last time I played it) where you have to be a member to access half the content?
>>340698429
There is a huge difference you see now?
Legion's looking pretty good desu
>>340699075
you dumbass Blizzdrones said the same thing about Warlords
Bli$$ard could shit on a plate and sell it for $60, and you would buy it
>>340689112
The game takes 85gb to install and manages to look and play worse than vanilla Skyrim.
>>340699268
If you haven't been following the expansion's development then you have no place to talk.
>>340697034
>he missed those days when SWGEmu was fotm and /v/ played it and made a city
>>340699416
stay delusional
>>340698690
membership is 10 a month. you can buy a bond which is 2.4mil in game gp for 14 days of membership
>>340699443
Wasn't becoming a jedi like a nigh impossible thing to do in this game?
>>340699075
It is and it isn't. The "hype" for legion is far lower than it was for WoD and so many of us got burnt.
I'm hopeful for a lot of the changes but a lot of it (especially pvp stuff) sounds godawful so far.
Still too early to tell, I could only stomach a month of WoD so I'm clearly not the target WoW audience anymore.
>>340699794
Yes. And people who DID become Jedi were overpowered as a motherfucker.
>>340699845
What does that even entail? Did you have to make a lightsaber through a crafting skill? Or were they like quest items?
>tfw thought of reinstalling tera and forgot it's 39 fucking gb's
>>340699794
It was very difficult yes.
And what's better, there is a bounty hunter class who's job is to hunt jedis. So imagine the scenario:
>nigger kid wants to be a jedi
>works like a motherfucker to become one
>goes to the cantina and pulls out his lightning saber to show off
>half the players send messages to each other telling their friends and guildmates that there is a jedi in the cantina
>2 minutes later an army of bounty hunters shows up to kick his ass
it was damn fun, let me tell you.
>>340699443
I didn't miss those days, actually. Just haven't played since then. BEST KORELLIA.
The clusterfuck meeting at the cantina with everyone was one of the funnest times I've had in a game, period. Complete chaos but neat to be in a virtual star wars world with all of you turbofags.
>>340699794
Depends on when you mean, but in original pre-cu/nge SWG it was a big grind but not impossible. Jedis aren't enabled yet on the main swgemu server, last i saw, but are on a bunch of the offshoots (I don't know more than that).
I do remember, from retail SWG, that jedi were very powerful at least at first. Back when no one knew how they were unlocked, but i was taking hard classes at the time so my memories could be hazy/incorrect.
>>340699927
http://swg.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_(pre-NGE)#Becoming_a_Jedi
>>340699927
You had to craft everything in your lightsaber yourself, also if you were a jedi then you were tagged for having permadeath. If you died, that was it. Your character became a force ghost and could no longer log in. Thing is, a jedi could take on dozens of other players and come out alive.
>>340699927
It was actually random, you just had to train skills and if you are lucky, after a certain point you'd get a quest that let you begin your Jedi quest. Thing about jedi though, although they are OP as FUCK, when you killed one, you had the satisfaction of knowing you just permakilled someone character with hundreds to thousands of hours on it. As well as the rest of the server knowing and whispering you death threats. Good times....
>>340700041
I forget where i saw them, but there was a collection of fun bounty hunter vs jedi stories somewhere. My favorite was a big RP wedding that some players had where an elusive jedi got invited - i forget how but it got triggered on the consoles so a ton of bounty hunters stormed the event to get him, creating a shitload of death, chaos, and forum drama.
>>340699939
games just keep getting bigger but download speeds not so much
this is a hell of its own
>>340696789
>Their fleets are newbie friendly but I still don't want to join if all I'll be able to fly is a condor or atron, and poorly at that.
I would highly discourage this thinking. Go out with them, explode, try to learn what you could have done better, and do it again. Be a cute newbie when appropriate (don't interrupt battle comms with "OMG I'M DYING! FC WUT DO") and people will even shower you with isk.
mainstream mmos are bad because they have to be cash cows to compete with other cash cows
there are good mmos that aren't huge though
>>340699443
>tfw i'm in that screenshot, didn't even notice at first
>>340687817
Agreed, ToS was my only hope and boy, did they fuck up.
Now all I can do is casually play the same meh MMOs I've been playing for 5 years now.
Guys, help. I'm only level 33 and I wandered off...
I found some kind of portal.
>>340700465
To add onto this, I guarantee you that the fleet is filled with newbro frigs who have no idea what they are doing. A lot of those people aren't going to learn anything because they won't try to learn anything. So you not being there getting practical battle experience and learning more about the game/how to be a better pilot, actually hurts your alliance more than it helps.
>>340700465
I'll join their standing fleet one of these days then. They're a very active corp and they're always sending out alerts for PvP operations, so it shouldn't be hard at all to get some action in this weekend
>>340700613
>trusting gook shit nowadays
The Silkroad and Ragnarok days are over, friend. Those yellow bastards are only looking to suck your wallet dry now, they don't give enough of a fuck to and don't even know how to make a decent game.
>>340700713
I snuck around the guard to get closer.
This is getting way too spooky.
>>340700807
Silk Road was never good ever.
Great aesthetic though
>>340695673
>The Secret World
What's the /v/ channel? I haven't played in over two years so all of my settings got wiped.
>>340700816
Please send help!
I keep...walking...closer...
>>340687690
All the MMOs I'm interested in are all Korean/Asian only that will probably never get localised, even if they were already planning on getting localised.
Closers Online for example. It was supposed to come out some time last year but it looks like zero progress has been made localising it from last April or something.
I'm also interested in Peria Chronicles too. I don't even think that's out in Korea, despite the fact it was supposed to come out last year too...
Do subscription fees make for a better MMO community?
>>340695234
I couldn't get into NWN after getting to like... Oh just over halfway to cap. It was just the same damn thing all day every day, frustrating.
>>340700750
Good shit. Another idea would be to make notes while on fleet. Note things you don't understand, and ask about them afterwards.
I used to FC and have a bunch of new players in my fleets and the lack of comms discipline to to random noob questions was suuuuper frustrating. So try to just go along with the flow, note something you don't understand, and then ask when it's appropriate, not in the middle of the fleet.
>>340700895
I and many others enjoyed it at the time, before they expanded it with European content and tried to cashcow it. Another similar one that I preferred over Silkroad was Kal Online.
>>340700959
I really did like the community of FFXIV more than any other F2P/P2W MMO I've ever played; but that's because they aren't filled with the community that >>340700807 mentioned caters to.
>>340688629
>Camelot Unchained
this seems interesting, seems like the closest to WAR ill get
tera is the only good mmo
>>340688741
Like wow buddy?
>>340700916
It's so pretty.
>>340700529which one are you?
>>340700895
it was fun the first month euro was out.
>>340688672
>They're pretty shit, but at least they're PRETTY shit.
I tried all of them except Black Desert and I literally couldn't even bother playing them for a week. I do feel like they might be enjoyable MMOs but somehow they just aren't for me.
Maybe I just grew out of MMOs or something? Lord knows I don't have the time to grind and farm for hours at a time like in highschool.
>>340701119
Guess I'll just dance infront of it.
>>340701202
to play asian mmos you need some kind of a goal.
>>340701101
did they fix getting interrupted all the time because
you stagger if the mob farts on your general direction?
>>340701042
Yeah, they have a pretty indepth wiki with a section describing their comms for new playerss, I was reading over it earlier today.
Atlantica has a unique battle system and is still getting updates
EVE is EVE, but the new expansions are good.
Crowfall is looking good
I'm still fucking mad about what they did to firefall
>>340700475
Good mmos such as?
>>340695878
What does GW2 offer? It's a lot to download.
>>340701408
>Crowfall is looking good
I started out optimistic for Crowfall untill they started all their founder shit. Looks like it's gunna go the way of ArcheAge fast
>>340687690
GW2 and PSO2 are the two mmos i keep coming back to. not counting the month or two i resub to wow when a new expansion drop
>>340701280
yeah don't get hit
Decided to try leveling in GW2 because I bought it at release but didn't really play it.
I am enjoying it, the game naturally has you work with other players but it lacks communication with them. The personal story is neat because, at least at the earlier parts I am at I don't feel like some Chosen Mary Sue. I am just kind of a character in the world. That probably changes later though.
>>340697963
Personally, it's one of my favourite MMOs. It's not even remotely great by any stretch of the imagination but it's very comfy.
Like... I dunno, it feels like I could easily idle away my time playing that game if I wanted to.
>>340701710
sassy remarks will get you nowhere buddy
>>340701710
>don't get hit
>>340701748
30 is when you are the chosen one everything is the same .
The majority of /v/ are such autist I don't understand how there isn't a larger player base of EVE here.
Can a game being TOO autistic for you guys?
>>340690489
I played this game for a while until I realized end game is boiled about how lucky you are in hell mode.
>>340701448
I'm playing project gorgon which is alpha but playable, there's really a lot of them tho. You just gotta look harder. I got that one from a list some guy was posting in these threads for a while and I didn't save it.
All current MMOs suck, however the only one worth it is FFXIV hands down
>>340702032
Aw well, at least my character starts somewhat humbly I guess.
Is there no variety past that point? I like being a Charr engineer and warband leader.
Lord of the Rings Online is really underrated. It's got an amazing world.
I really want to play something like that for the first time again but I can't think of what.
>>340702276
Played it for a bit until I became a black mage.
Then the leveling really bored me. Might try again some day.
>>340702287
pay2win
>>340702173
is there pvp in project gorgon?
I haven't kept up with it but everything i've read in spurts sounds like a lot of fun. The dude making it (maybe it's him and his wife? i forget) seems like a cool guy.
I'm not a big ganker or anything, just feels so weird playing a mmo where there's no potential danger from players.
>>340701879
>>340701997
you can use iframes you realize
>>340702451
last I heard the only pvp was a mausoleum under the first town, kinda dumb too seeing as it was the first person to get a cc off won
>>340702280
well it starts from whatever personal story you choose, then there are 3 orders to choose(so 3 different stories) then it all merges and same for everyone
>>340702373
dps arent fun
>>340702089
Eve requires talking to other people, something /v/ isn't good at.
>>340702173
Project Gorgon is fucking awful. Just Asheron's Call instead
I kinda wish MMOs weren't so good looking. It's a weird thing to say but a lot of MMOs take up absolutely massive amounts of data now, easily 30GB or more.
If you don't mind the simpleness of it and the great grinding battle, Domo has always been fun.
The community is almost 100% enjoyable, there have been fun events in the past like the Chinese New Year having a crazy huge and powerful boss right outside the town gates, or the big firework celebration shortly before it went down the first time.
>>340702639
30GB is a lot?
Are we still in 2010?
>>340702639
>massive amounts of data now, easily 30GB or more.
>in an age where you can get 2tb for 100 dollars
>>340687690
no
no
>Just want an MMO with a decent Summoner class
>So far, that's basically just PWI
Help
>>340702890
>>340702918
Download speeds though. It still takes a while to download that, especially in this day and age where you probably live with someone who is watching Netflix at the same time.
Don't bother saying "get better internet" either. I'm on an ultra fast broadband fiber optic line, it literally can't get better.
MMOs are dead. We ASSFAGGOTS now.
>>340702438
Not really, it's just Pay to not grind, like every single F2P mmo out there.
>>340703165
>tfw live out in a rural area with only a few providers, with over half of those available having data caps
>have to settle for shitty Centurylink with a service so bad any upload past 5 kb/s murders the connection like it's a slasher film
I fucking hate it. When nothing's happening it's fine, but the smallest little piece of shit from ANYTHING slaughters it.
How's Rift now that it's free? Always wanted to try it.
>>340703198
assfaggots are so 2014
hero shooters are the next new thing
Maplestory
>>340700091
Yooooo, I was in that group too my nigga. Remember Doraball? He's a trans now.
>>340687690
Fuck I just resubbed to WOW and made a brand new orc, and right as soon as I pop in the world, I am bombarded with Chinese spam fuck WOW fuck spammers and FUCK mmos.
>>340703482
I'm in a rural area and centurylink is my only option as well. It's the shittiest internet i've ever had, including shit-tier customer service (that part isn't shocking).
Is it gonna be any good?
Literally no one talks about it
>>340703990
No spammers in EVE outside of player scams and memers. And that's only in a few select places.
>>340703870
haha i think the name rings a bell but good for him/her, I guess.
I just remember the mayor Gaben and a cool rodian smuggler who I'd buy lots of drugs from.
Anyone have any recommendations for grinding MMOs or just grindy games in general?
I really just wanna play something where I can watch the numbers go up real nice.
Was thinking of maybe reinstalling D3 but I remembered I never bought RoS which supposedly makes the game worth playing beyond the base story, and last time I tried Path of Exile (probably a year or so ago at this point) I got real bored of the "so complex and deep!" character tree shit pretty fast, plus all the de-sync stuff.
>>340704565
I saw a banner ad for it and I thought it was a phone game so I ignored it completely.
MMOs were totally dead by 2013, killed by F2P.
>>340702575
Not to mention at roughly level 60 your "personal story" gets taken over by some dumbass NPC and you just become his fucking secretary while he saves the world and everyone loves him.
Honestly I loved GW2 up until level 40-60 and then it became a fucking slog and the story sucks horribly. And from what I've read the post release story is even worse (and now you have to pay money to play the "Season 1" story missions)..
>>340703485
If it's your first time then you will probably enjoy it. There is a sizable grindwall at level cap--primarily for reputations to get access to BiS items--so it's more about if you can handle tedium or not.
I played for a bit during vanilla, quit, came back, quit again, then played a little bit during Storm Legion. The dungeons are very fun and I like their version of Heroics with how they alter the actual dungeon itself. Raids were probably the most genuinely exciting I've ever been through.
>>340703062
veno or mystic?
>>340705081
Venomancer, obviously. They get SO many pets.
>>340701217
Aw shit, this is RIFT, right?
Phantasy Star Online 2. In the West.
Seriously, is that EVER going to be a thing? I think I recall someone from Sega confirmed it was still alive a year ago or something but it looks like zero progress has been made.
>>340700908
I don't think there is any.Sanctuary is the most active channel.
>>340687690
>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
WoW
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
WoW expansions, hop on the Legion hype train bud
>>340696925
>couldn't get out of first person
i havent played in years since i dont own any issues/dont want to raid, but i didn't even know there was a first person view other than scrolling in or out
>>340701807
I just downloaded it, how do I git gud? I'm playing a bowman.
>>340705298
Nope. Even if it did, it's still a shit game.
>>340701217
>Guess I'll just dance infront of it.
nigga you just go through it now, its not even hot shit anymore
>>340705186
yeah, but its massively gone downhill in the last few months
>>340705570
>its massively gone downhill in the last few months
Doesn't surprise me at all.
I'm having a blast playing Secret World.Did some of the missions at least 20 times and its still fun as hell.Its definition of themepark but they done it very well.
Skyforge is pretty fun at the moment.
Waiting on >>340705690
and Revelations.
>>340693603
I like the concept, but I feel like it has a long way to go. Hopefully now with income from steam early access they can get updates out at a faster rate.
>>340690489
I stopped playing this back in October when uni picked up. I wonder if the population got any bigger.
>>340705435
There is no first person.Only zooming and it will ruin the combat if you do.
>>340705498
Oh jeez, it's been a while. Let's see...
If I recall, you can move while casting skills if you hold the button down? I think charging them also increases damage, for some skills at least?
You basically want to slightly kite everyone, dancing just on the very edge of your range.
Also, you skills have a variety of effects that can buff you or debuff enemies. You wanna use the right skills at the right time. Like, opening up with an ice arrow is a good idea so when a monster starts to chase you it starts with lowered movement speed. Then slam'em with the skill that lowers their defense and then pepper them with shots as they inch closer.
You can also have a sub class, if ya didn't know. You get MOST of the skills of the second class as well as access to their weapon. Some weapons have a natural synergy with other weapons, which lets you gain a few special skills.
For example, bows and harps work well together. Harps are bard weapons, which are the healer class. Since you're on the backlines as a bowman anyway, being a healer isn't a bad subclass to take as well. Apply buffs and healing to yourself and others while applying damage and debuffs to enemies, it's a good deal.
Check out your Envoy's Path thing carefully, see what skills you get from other weapons. I think the bowman's other weapon synergy is with the sword and shield? That might be good for solo play, increase your survivability a little bit.
This is the only MMO worth looking forward to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8HXSJ0niCQ
>>340687690
No.
The only MMO's being made are themepark bullshit that don't really have a living world you can do shit with, defeating the purpose.
I'm hoping soon people will look at shit like Rust, DayZ, and EVE and realize that what people want these days is a simulation, not a fantasy book you can be a nameless asshat in.
>>340699416
>If you don't fall for the scam then you have no place to talk
>>340687690
id suggest the secret world like another anon did, but the problem is, all of its AMAZING pros? would have been better suited to a single player game
and most of its cons? related to it being a mmo
in fact, i think they did make a spoopy short horror game set in universe in one of the questing locations
to my knowledge, it was pretty alright, but short as fuck
>>340706586
multiplayer survival games are basically miniature sandbox mmos really
>>340706368
I beg to differ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3p48RCWTw4
>>340707070
Chinese MMOs can be pretty and all but...
Man, the gameplay is usually kinda terrible.
>>340701101
tera is cancer
>>340707140
I'm not seeing much of an issue there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zk-CtAkqiA
>>340701101
I hear the gameplay is great for Tera but the quests get really dull really fast.
>>340707070
>>340707320
Meh, Lost Ark's combat honestly appeals to me much more. This just looks like another Tera/BnS/Black Desert failure waiting to happen.
>>340705690
never ever
>>340706958
I just want a triple A company to make one that actually has seem decent scale to it without being kike shits and ruining it (ArcheAge).
I'd be willing to tolerate some restrictions, such as not being able to personally build your own houses and shit, as long as there were good mechanics.
>>340688741
Sandboxes are pretty boring really. All "player created content" boils down to ganking outside of the nearest town.
Sandbox elements are good but not when there's NO structured content to do just random mobs to grind and people just end up PK'ing all day.
I mean I've only played The Secret World and I enjoyed that, me and my best bud played it for 2 days straight since we barely get to play games together since he's in the navy.
Any other good ones?
I tried tera and it's alright
It seems that MMOS are only good when you have a friend or two to play through them with and have a good time and not some random sperg you meet online and just rushes and leaves you behind
>>340690171
Vvanderfell has been datamined and people are expecting it to be announced this E3 at their booth.
>>340708129
Can't wait to not be a wood elf. I'll feel like a giant badass among all those midgets.
Getting peppered with arrows constantly while I try to close the distance will make me feel like a fucking retard though.
>>340690171
They have imperial city in game, as well as the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, and Orsinium. All new content this last year.
>>340697672
What's the game at the very start?
>>340707804
I disagree with your main point but agree that it does turn into a gankbox more often than not. There are various essays on possible methods to incorporate consequences to "law breaking" and ways to have incentives to not just being a bitch to everyone in those types of games -- as often there really is no benefit to working together if you feel you're stronger.
A lot of that involves making them more of a virtual world, complete with player-run territories and associated laws.
We're not at that point yet but i do firmly believe the future of online mmos is headed there eventually.
>>340699362
It's an MMO, of course it's going to look worse than a single player game. Hitboxes are larger to account for network latency as well.
FFXIV looks worse than FFXIII or any of its sequels.
>>340690171
pray tell me
what makes eso good, are people social in it?
>>340708578
Soul Worker, or something like that.
>>340708674
>are people social in it?
It's a theme park to the nth degree, what the fuck do you think?
>>340706876
They added Tokyo and released new issues if you didn't know.
>>340708929
is it actually another zone after Transylvania?
i missed alot of the story, specifically new york i think, because i never wanted to raid but if its an actual zone and not just an issue, i might come back a bit
>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
Runescape
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
Runescape
>>340708674
>>340708674
I haven't played it since launch so maybe it's changed, but I didn't talk to even one person while grinding to max. Didn't do many quests, either, just aoe'd shit on my templar.
I'm sure I did it wrong but the game certainly didn't force me to interact with anyone. I got talked into buying it to play with a buddy, and then we couldn't even do quests together due to phasing.
He's still way into it so maybe it doesn't suck but I quit after getting to max since I promised i'd do at least that.
>>340709065
Yeah its another city.I found it very refreshing.Missions are fun as fuck.Desing of the city is kinda dull but missions and the story makes up for it.There is also a new system called AEGIS that brings another type of fun.
>>340687690
Riders of Icarus had a good beta.
How much shit they fuck up with the cash shop will determine the game's fate. Wont be the next big thing but it wont be the next big cancer.... unless they go full jew which I am half expecting.
Its gonna be free so its nothing lost nothing gained if its shit.
>>340689389
just no blizzdrone
It's dead as a doornail now but around 2010-2012 Battlestar galatica online was the shit
> faction vs faction
> simple overall objective , remove the other faction from every system until one side wins and the sever resets
> relatively simple upgrade and RPG system
> be cylon
> I'd always stealth past the warring systems in a decked out classic raider ,
> make my way to the beginner human system and kick the shit out of new and low level players until one of them would called for a guy who's ship was better then mine
Also being a dick
> allies set up water mines
> humans show up and take out the mines and try to claim ownership
> while the ally and humans fight i lay my own mine there
>>340709343
oh sweet, i think i quit shortly after chainsaws and shit were added because i didn't like the variety. none of the monsters definitely looked like that.
guess i know what im downloading tonight.
>currently installing Guild Wars 2 again since the last time I played it was on a potato laptop that couldn't even run it
>that was over a year ago
I already know about all the drama and lore butchering and badly written living story shit, but I have an account for it and there's no sub. I don't want to play a shitty korean grinder and this was all I could think of.
how active is tales of the old republic?
>>340701217
>>340701119
>>340700916
>>340700816
Eat a dick and die
Trion is the worst company.
I had everything I wanted in Rift and when it went f2p and p2w they took it all away.
>>340709580
They will be releasing a new update for PvP that will also make Fusang fun as fuck Im hoping.If you are lucky you can also get to the world boss day today.
>>340709574
muh nigga
fleet battles in that were the absolute shit, it was insane seeing so many ships actively flying around in the same area
I remember being in my little fighter pew pewing the blind spots of the big guys with a shitton of other fighters
Does second life count ?
For all the shit, I had some genuinely great times
> had a group I used to hang around
> an old guy, 2 younger guys, a furry, an autistic Brazilian dude and a an older woman who sorta became the de facto leader
> one day we end up exploring and fucking around in a barnyard sex sim that has a BDSM dungon too because reasons trolling the tards who seriously went there
> eventually get bored of the place and just wonder off into the neighboring sims chatting about whatever
> exploring around completely abandoned sims that haven't seen any players in years while discussing shit I can't even remember
>>340709684
shit i meant the star was the old republic mmo
>>340708584
I really want ESO's "enforcer" system to go live. In that way, you kind of volunteer for world PVP by breaking the law. You get a high bounty for murdering and stealing (and getting caught) and then other players can kill you.
They advertised it as part of their crime and justice system but they haven't implemented it yet, and I hear it's been indefinitely delayed unfortunately.
>>340709925
Kinda sad it died
Servers are still active but no one plays anymore , they made some changes that killed it
> water mines are as common as other mines now , thus no need to fight
> introduced an improved fighter control system but it was already dead
> introduced a system to customize ship variations in 2011, and they only ever relased 2 variations of fighters and forgot about it
>>340710615
Can you explore Tamriel on horse or is it seperated by zones?
>>340710783
It is separated by zones unfortunately, they did take too many themepark elements in it, and have only been adding more "elder scrolls" style gameplay since post launch.
>>340711298
Dammit I'd buy it if it was open world like I expected.I just wanted to ride my horse while looking at the scenery.
>>340711624
Well the zones aren't that small, I mean you can still ride around on yourGuarand take in the scenery.
Cyrodiil is particularly large, it's about half of the Oblivion map (missing from Bravil south in the Nibenay region and from Skingrad west in the Gold Coast region, though Dark Brotherhood adds Anvil and Kvatch as PVE areas), as a PVP zone
>>340712761
So Cyrodiil is PvP zone?
>>340713223
Yes, a massive 3 faction PVP zone, with castles to siege (and siege weapons to bombard castles with), towns with PVE quests in them (to set up somewhat open world ganking), caves/delves with skyshards and PVE bosses, and then there's Imperial City where you farm a currency called Tel Var stones by killing PVE enemies in the city, but if another player kills you, they loot your Tel Var stones.Sweet girl...
Can't find better fights in MMOs that are as hype as in FFXIV
https://youtu.be/UbNpSfZnwC4
no
no
every month they tease a new mmo that /v/ says will breathe new life into the genre and save it. They never do, they always die, they're always shit.
>>340713706
I take it that's from dark brotherhood. How is it anyways? I was pretty disappointed with how quickly I lost interest in Thieves GuildOther than the Abah's Watch motif you can get from it now anyways.But haven't had much time to have fun again since I've started collecting shit to try getting into pledges, and grinding levels on new characters.
>>340714380
It has to die first, then you need the right amount of risk taking investors to fund something good to breath life into it.
No one wants to put money on an MMO that doesn't follow the WoW model even though they always fail.
>>340714530
I actually haven't started the questline from it yet. I just joined the guild to get blade of woe and have been murdering people because it has a lot of animations and it takes out my frustrations from the RNG pickpocketing system.
How's the ESO population on PS4 in comparison to PC
>>340714862
Thanks anyways I suppose, I really should've done more with DB in the PTS but I focused entirely on ability changes, oh well.
>>340687690
The only two MMOs that look good coming up are Camelot Unchained and Pantheon. I wouldn't bet on either one of them ever seeing the light of day though.
Blizzard burned the MMO market to the ground and salted the earth.
>>340687690
>absolutely love Kingdom Under Fire
>Hey KUF 2 is actually out
>Chew through miles of proxy fuckery
>Make a character
>Decent combat system but the game is woefully starved of content although unit variety makes up for that, but guess what, to get the best and most interesting units you have to pay up real money and spin the fucking roulette
It's a good idea, a great concept, it was one of the few Mmo games I've actually enjoyed playing, but it's horribly crippled by this Korean bullshit they're so fond of. Worst part is that at times you can see how lovingly crafted the game is, when you have one of the troops from Hieroneiden say "I'll spike your head upon my gate and ring your intestines across my mantle" during an attack - a direct reference to Gerald's quote from KUF. It was supposed to be a love letter to fans of the previous games, but everything turned out as it usually does. Still, one has to admire their tenacity. Seven years in development hell and they still pulled through.
>>340695706
>they tend to be more helpful as well.
>people literally levelup in the group lfg partys by being afk and the kick system not working
Mortal online. Playing that with some dudes from /v/ I played wurm with.
It's prettyfun
>>340715456
What are the chances of it coming to the US? The KUF games were fucking amazing.
>>340716662
No idea. It's still in a limbo. You can play it right now on the Malaysian servers, even without a proxy. Just gotta download a thing or two. Their ip block system can be fooled by notepad made .bat file.
>>340687690
I just started playing private vanilla WoW on Kronos II, large population, good conversation in world/general, not watered down sewage like retail, pretty comfy generally. Would recommend to anyone looking for an MMO experience with actual substance
My only gripe would be the server is in some part of Europe that gives me >300ms ping, but oh well, can't win them all
>>340689389
I hope you're prepared to be extremely disappointed, about a month after launch
I open these threads twice a month and every time it's the same answers.
>FFXIV
>BDO
>Blade & Soul
>TERA
Has everyone just stopped making MMOs?
>>340688356
Damn son I was thinking the same thing. The game was so hyped
Sell me on your dream MMO. Let's see what you got.
>>340717354
To an extent, yeah.
MMOs are incredibly expensive to make and as multiple failed MMOs have shown in the past there just isn't a market for them anymore aside from F2P, and even then you're unlikely to see much of a consistent playerbase or profit.
Maybe eventually we'll see a proper great MMO come about again, but for now I think most big developers are focused on making stuff like MOBAs and class/hero shooters like Overwatch where they would have been doing MMOs in years past. Most of those will fail too though. It's just a cycle.
>>340715168
It's pretty populated on PS4
>>340717354
There's only a few indie games in the works, the bigger budget MMO's are done.. with BDO and Blade and Soul being the most recent it's a sinking market, and those MMO's only got released because they'd been in development for years prior. AAA's aren't going to want to touch the genre for the near future. The market is saturated and the playerbase for the genre is in decline.
From 2007-2014 was the big wave, all wanting some of that WoW success, Games like ESO and SWTOR and GW2 STARTED being developed back then, but didn't launch until the market was turning to shit.
>>340717830
I'd love something that's a bit of a bridge between the systems in place in EVE (in terms of how open and sort of free it is rather than just being "Do X Y and Z quests to progress") and then more of a traditional MMO like WoW or any of the others.
There's still deep lore and shit like that if you want it along with traditional quests, but also players themselves can make their own quests that serve their interests ranging from gathering crafting materials to "sneak into the enemy player city and bring back this info" or even doing bounties/assassinations.
If you want you can just live life on the server as a blacksmith or any of the other sorts of professions on offer and help more traditional adventurers along the way. PVP involves player made factions that can take control of cities and towns and whole territories if they have enough strength to hold it all.
Basically the sort of game all the "trapped in an MMO" anime have before everything goes to shit.
>>340696286
>being new
I enjoy XIV a lot, still log on every day if possible and enjoy my time online.
But people seem to have such weird expectations of MMOs that I would never recommend one.
>>340717354
Those four MMOs are pretty good representatives of their own subgenre.
>XIV
Best themepark
>BDO
Best 'hardcore'
>B&S
Best PvP
>TERA
Best f2p with entertaining combat
I'd add EVE for best player made content.
>>340696171
the best book is Templar One, but you'll enjoy it more if you read up on the lore of the game
>>340707804
This.
For all of the people who say that devs are ruining MMOs and that we need another SWG, they always forget that true sandboxes died for a reason (WoW being just one of them).
You can't have a big budget sandbox game in this day and age due to different sensibilities.
>>340707320
Combat looks less responsive and worse than BDO, actually.
>>340719053
You've clearly never played a sandbox before. They don't require as much money as a theme park because the players are making their own content. Sandboxes aren't made anymore because WoW set so many things as the "norm" that the industry and people refuse to play without.
>>340719213
Nice attempted strawman, but I'm simply saying that you won't be seeing AAA sandbox games in this day and age because the subgenre isn't profitable, especially when the MMO genre is in rapid decline.
All MMOS are pretty shit, the best ones are GW2 and Wildstar, and please, stop shilling eso, it's incredibly bad in terms of graphics and the fucking combat system.
>>340719213
>making their own content
>ganking each other outside of towns
>"content"
>>340703062
Try looking into dfo, It may not be what you're looking for, but the summoner class in that game Can keep something like 15+ mobs running around at once.
>>340719582
ESO looks better' than most, MMOs Black Desert looks better than it but otherwise some art styles might be more appealing but if you're going for photorealism most MMO's look like shit in comparison.
>>340719875
ESO looks incredibly plastic, super bleak and dull. It's honestly the biggest reason i don't want to mess with that shit
>>340687690
corecraft
i resubbed to wow 3 days ago and all i did is fish and do the fishing dailies
why did i even bother?
ill just grind my fishing in elona+ instead
>>340707401
They do but if you can handle the grind, it's a very engaging game. DPS and tank rolls both were really fun. Even the 'fuck you go farm pvp points' modes are pretty alright. Incredibly grindy game though, it really can't be understated.
>try leveling up gear around level 50
>BRO JUST WAIT YOULL GET BETTER GEAR
>hit max level
>BRO DON'T WASTE YOUR SHIT ON THAT
>but ive been 60 for half as long as it took me to get to 60 when the fuck can i start upgrading my gear
>GET STRIKE FORCE
>30 hours of pvp farming later
>get MUH STRIKE FORCE to +9
>mfw the requirements to get it to +12
>mfw people reroll armors and weapons just to get the right aspects before they even start upgrading their shit
I liked TERA but after several hundred hours of just farming pvp points and the same dungeon for gold/mats, I just woke up one day not in the mood to play and never turned back. I recommend leveling to 60. You're not missing anything in the post game and the combat is really good for an MMO.
>>340698267
Kind of curious. What happened?
>>340717354
We should petition Vanillaware to make a MMO
>>340717830
Magical girl MMO.
Look, everyone likes to pretend to be a girl online anyway. Might as well give them an excuse.
Character creation is like one of those super hero MMOs where you can pick and choose from a wide selection of powers, abilities and weapons.
All costumes are cosmetic only, so you can choose whatever is the cutest/prettiest/lewdest
Large emphasis on multiplayer, since magical girls are mostly teams now days.
After the RIP of Lineage 2 years ago, no MMO will compare. /thread
>>340720309
This. I found the combat and levelin TERA to be enjoyable. THe story and lore is decent if you take time to read the quests and whatnot.
But the endgame is horrible since re-rolling stats on your gear is very bad RNG and takes an iunsane amount of grind.
If it was guaraenteed then I'd be ok with it but RNG will fuck you over too much.
Also with the brawler patch they fucked up tanks and aggro. So tanking became easy and no longer fun.
>>340697963
>Aura Kingdom
bothered with it for a solid week and 2 days before uninstalling
has a great theme and structure for the classes
fishing was awkward and button-mashy for a m+kb game
themepark as fuck though
i want an mmo mount & blade :(
I hope that Chronicles of Elyria thing will deliver
>>340688629
Albion Online looks interesting. Reminds me a lot of Shadowbane which I loved. Never got to build a city but I like the idea of that your guild hall is actually a strong hold you build up. This looks like it might give me that fix.
>>340705529
I play PSO2, I can attest to this. It is literally a Japanese social game.
>Daily missions for high amounts of XP
>Daily Log in bonuses to keep you playing
>Shitty gathering system with stamina
>Weapon upgrade system where you feed weapons to your weapons to upgrade them
>P2W revival/upgrade items
>Shitty cross promotion events
>Guilds that don't really mean anythingI still play because I kind of like the story.
>>340720808
>The lore is descent
All I got from it is that the world is sleeping giants and the robots are their nightmares of war or something.
They never explain what you're fighting half the time and the idea that the robot like Baraka are related to the Giants seems like a mistranslation.
What classifies an MMO as a "themepark" MMO?
I've never played an MMO because I assume it will have all this and I hate all of it:
>3rd person camera
>camera floats 20 meters above character
>name floating above every character
>shitty costume armour that makes no sense
>bikini armour sluts that make no sense
>all of them are actually men
>choose your sex
>men and women function exactly the same
>choose your race
>human, elf, dark elf, dwarf, orc
>choose a class
>probably tank/DPS/healer
>If not, then choose from one of 120 classes
>thief, burglar, rogue, brigand, scout, hunter, ranger, tracker, knight, paladin, crusader, cataphract, templar, cavalier, plate-wearer, champion, equites, rodelero, wizard, mage, sorcerer, conjurer, warlock
>every attack has red swoosh lines following it
>HyaH! HAYH! HEEEYAAAH! combo with dumb sword moves
>at least 3-4 menus for inventory and crafting
>>340704565
Playd some of closed beta. It's just another WoW clone witha bit of aion combo skills. Bad crafting.
The whole mount pokemon thing is bad. You are given quests to get new mounts as you go along. So your flying mount is limited to how high you can do. You never get to use a mount you want cause higher level mounts go faster/fly higher.
Generic questing, very poor optimization, generic talents, dungeons are small, linear and never worth doing while leveling. Mounted combat is buggy and very weak.
Neat idea, lacks polish. Ignore it.
>>340721387
When the game is designed as a single player game that takes from quest hub to quest hub, where player interaction is mainly through rare elite mob quests, the local dungeon or a raid.
The hub hopping and quest delivery makes the game sort of like wandering around a theme park.
Sandbox games tend to instead just throw you into the world and let the community effect what you do.
>>340721445
>arcane ancient sword of arcane burning of the arcane, arcane arts (+2 majickka drain, +3 burning damage against banetrolls)
>>340721445
>muh hooker bots!
>>340709621Help me guys I'm having actual fun with this. Sword+Dagger Ranger is great.
>>340721445
>>3rd person camera
First person mmorpgs will never work with any decen combat system.
A shooter fine sure, but the ability to see your character and around him is vital for anything with decent mechanics.
>>340720808
TERA's combat and classes and art/fanservice are nice, and the world looks great.. but the questing is awful, the dungeons are lackluster, and the endgame gearing is just not fun. It's a decent framework of a game but the content is just garbage.
>>340721264
PSO2 was decent at first. But the more they strayed from Phantasy star the worse the game got. They destoryed anything it could of been.
Really wish the PSU private server had gotten somewhere.
asheron's call
old school, but still fun
>>340721894
Did you actually have to type out the words for spells in that or is that just fluff in the log?
>>340721758
>A shooter fine sure, but the ability to see your character and around him is vital for anything with decent mechanics.
If the game is based around party combat then it would add the mechanic of using formation to protect yourself from being attacked from the side.
Besides that, even in 1st person hand-to-hand combat you just have to maintain situation awareness by not getting tunnel vision. I do that in Mount&Blade and in Skyrim.
>>340722076
no typing
fluff but each spell has a different casting words
>>340722234
That's pretty neat.
FFXI is still worth playing, though it lost some of its charm when they made the game solo friendly, but makes up for it in convenience and the sheer amount of content you can do solo
Speaking of MMOs, I just found out about this.
http://www.civilizationonline.com/
Interesting as it also looks like shit.
DEM FUCKING WAIFUS THOUGH
>>340687690
>Are there any MMO's worth playing
The Secret World
>Worth looking forward to
No
>>340722297
costs only 10 bucks for an account, no monthly subscriptions. i play the pvp server, i could help you out if you wanted to play.
>>340722409
Literally PURE SEX
>>340722409
I've never seen a shill be quite so obvious.
>>340722495
Nah I wasn't really interested in playing it, I was just appreciating the fluff. A man can always enjoy good fluff.
>>340722535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C681DD6eRvs
SEEEEEXXXXXX
>>340722127
Doesn't work in a game. Real life sure, you can tell whats around. Hear, feel preasure, see shit happening.
Go play play wow or rift or anythign with raiding and try progression in first person view. It's impossible since you can't see shit.
>>340721869
All I ever wanted was a Phantasy Star Online sequel that had Portable 2's gameplay but improved, better graphics, better customization, Online/Universe's lobby, more weapons, more classes, more races, better instanced maps, and a good story.
I didn't mind PSO2's gameplay in the beginning, but it just feels off to me for some reason. The graphics aren't too bad, but I would like more colour variation per area. The lobby just seems small to me. I prefer the old games' weapon system (also, the "New Type" weapon system bothers the SHIT out of me). Classes were barebones at first, but at least they added ONE race in the THREE expansions. The maps bore the shit out of me, but at least they are more varied than the old games. The story is good, but Episode 4 and the anime jumped the shark for me, I have no idea what the fuck Sega was smoking, but I never want to touch that shit.
>>340721894
Is this the one where the devs made an event where you had to kill an evil crystal, except a group of players decided to kill themselves on it to level it up?
And then the developers stepped in with top level characters to kill the players and break the crystal hemselves, along with the two highest level players in the server.
Except one of them was a traitor and killed the developers
And the devs worked it into the game's story?
has anyone played skyforge? looked interesting
>>340700807
>you will never spend entire evenings and weekends with your best friends mindlessly grinding mobs in maplestory while churning through kickass music playlists and intermittently singing along to songs while stuffing your faces with all the different types of candy the local store had to offer
>>340692214
You like Valk?
>>340722738
I feel the same more or less. I loved melee in PSU, but felt they ruined it. Espically double sabers.
Mission system felt weird and bad. Basically rush and hope for right spawns or just get throught he level asap.
I realloy really hoping for PSU's system to be imporved with a move back to PSO's maps and exploration and mass killing.
>Episode 4 and the anime
Hey everyone let's jump ont he anime "stuck in a mmorpg" craze instead of sticking with what made the PSO series fun and different. Clearly it won't fucking ruin everything we've built up.
I know they have a loyal playerbase that lieks the EPi4 crap but... fuck man. If I wanted SAO i'd go play SAO(which i don't even like in the first place).
>>340721578
>throw you into the world and let the community effect what you do
Oh stop romanticizing it.
The reality is it's an excuse for devs to not make content, and most of the player interactions are just ganking.
Really an MMO should have aspects of both systems, having developer made quests, or better yet, GW2's events system, and then player created things like player stores, housing, towns, an in game bounty system where players can place bounties on other people, a deep crafting system that not everyone will be able to do while still being an adventurer (making dedicated crafting characters a valuable thing), and some story driven main quest or story driven instances like SWTOR's flashpoints that make your group feel like part of an epic story.
>>340694772
the only p2w is the ghille suit tbqph senpai
>>340722409
Ancient Egypt girls is my fetish. Too bad there's not much hentai about it.
>>340721894
>tfw guy I know online plays either this or Anarchy Online and I can never remember which one
>>340722970
>340722970 â–¶
Very good game, devs fucked it up, nobody plays it now
I played rift like a year ago.
All pvp tiers always had some people in it, at least you had a queue pop each hour. Now they made the exp so easy to get with the adventures it's ridiculous.
I made a primalist last month as I got the xpac and by the first 7 daily bonus adventures I received like 6 levels. I just had to skip the first region that I didn't even quest in because all the stuff were grey/green.
>>340723153
What a really well thought-out completely unoriginal thing you've just typed.
Totally shocking that such a creative person sees the trigger word "sandbox" and immediately spergs out about ganking.
It's totally cool if you want to play whatever games you play but don't shit on sandbox games because your feelings got hurt at some point.
>excuse to not make content
Comon, let that meme die.
>>340718994
BDO is Pay2Win, take it off the list.
>>340723073
>you will never again destroy some instant noodles while poopsocking it well into the wee hours of the morning as you spend your time clearing some obscure dungeon that has literally no walkthroughs or guides available, with the best of your bros just trying to work your way through content that hasn't been spoiled or explained to you by some shitheads that demand you study a wiki page or youtube video before you can play with them
MMOs were a mistake
>>340722409
>Egyptian
>White
Okay.
>>340723807
She's clearly tan.
>>340722536
Game is owned by 2K games. They've been shilling in this shithole for years.
>>340723153
Thats literally BDO. However the main quest is a little rickety.
CHRONICLES OF ELYRIA -
you age and die and live however you want.
>>340722907
not that i know of. sounds like it could be though.
>>340723989
>2K Games
Not surprised. Nice catch, anon.
>>340724000
I'd be more interested in BDO if it wasn't a gook game.
Gooks tend to forget that games should be fun and focus it more on being a long boring grindy slog.
>>340688629
My nigga, albion is fucking good but no way you can play alone.
>>340724000
That's literally not BDO.
BDO has no event systems outside of world bosses.
Players don't create stores housing or towns.
No bounty system.
The crafting system isn't deep.
is there anything similiar to the old Ultima Online?
>>340724224
Ultima online. It is still up.
>>340723690
I blame data miners. Literally nothing can be kept a secret or surprise these days unless it is literally who indie fare.
Been playing RIFT, Asheron's Call 2, and Vindictus lately, but fuck man, I have to find an excuse to play these games.
I'm starting to believe those people who keep saying MMOs is a steaming pile of turd genre. It's shit if you're playing them alone. Need to find some friends or a guild that isn't dead on invite.
>>340721264
Not that I don't agree with you in saying that it's now just a social game (kinda always was to be honest) that's about to get even worse with P2W but some of those elements are in many, many MMOs nowadays.
>>340723149
What do you mean with Double Sabers? I never played PSU so I don't know what it was like there.
>I know they have a loyal playerbase that likes the EP4 crap
The game has way more of a casual playerbase than any game I have played so it's a given that a good chunk likes where the game is going. It definitely is going the wrong way with being able to directly P2W soon.
>>340723149
Honestly, I think SAO is shit, but having played the SAO Re:Hollow Fragment (which plays like a hybrid between old school MMOs and action games), I would at least try a SAO MMORPG with Hollow Fragment gameplay. I think the only problem I have with Hollow Fragment is that it doesn't "feel" like how SAO is supposed to be.
Sword Art Online is supposedly difficult and there was supposed to be tension, because one wrong move could get you killed. Most healing was heal over time, so if you were in a fight and needed to heal, you needed someone to cover your ass. Crystals were the only way any character could insta-heal or get out of a situation, but they were rare/expensive so they were last resort. HF ruined this by having all healing items be insta-heal and heal over time. If there are any revival items in HF, I never noticed them.
Also, add in long range weapons. When I read in the books that there weren't any long range weapons in SAO other than thrown objects, I died on the inside from how stupid this sounded.
If they added in magic into the game, like in ALO where the characters would have to recite spells, I would make it so that they would have to input specific button combinations in order to cast spells. If they screw up, then the spell would be a dud (kind of like the ninja class and mudras in FFXIV).>mfw I read volumes 1-8 in the vain hope that the books were less shitty than the anime
I don't know if I'm seeing it right, or if this thread is filled with RIFT shills, but when I played Rift a couple of months ago it was completely fucking dead. Ran through the beginning region, the one after leaving the tutorial area, completely fucking alone. Literally closed down every rift in the area ALONE.
Maybe I'm playing on the wrong server which is dead and everyone is piling up on one server similar to what happened to Wildstar, because its a dead game. I just chose the server they "recommended".
>>340724313
It's not even that. It's the people. The majority of people playing MMOs nowadays are just shitty human beings. They ruin everything for themselves by studying up on games like it's fucking homework and then they ruin everyone elses fun they're around by harping on them constantly until they too have spoiled everything about the game for themselves. Also, the general attitude of the average MMO gamer is a lot different now than it was ten years ago. Hell, even five years ago. I'm just so sick of getting into groups with a bunch of limpdick shit eating welfare recipients.
>>340723149
>Episode 4
I don't really mind the story outside Aika being relevant, but there's like no real good gameplay changes outside the new crafted PAs compared to EP2 and 3.
Anime didn't do a good job being a "prologue" like the producers and streamfags said it would. All it established was that ARKS is real and how the Ether linking thing worked.
>>340724778
Most people ITT (myself included) didn't have wholly 100% positive things to say about RIFT, though.
Are you one of those newfriends who think that any mention of a game automatically means that it is positive?
>breast customization
>biggest is D cup
>can't change shape either
>>340725287
>can only have impossibly perky implant-like tits
>no slightly saggy MILFy funbags to watch bounce around
>>340699362
>85gb
Jesus fucking Christ, why does this game take so many fucking gbs to play? I remember it being a little of 50gb when it was release. Fucking Betheshit man.
>>340725390
Don't you know anon?
Big breasts are offensive and doesn't exist at all.
>>340724474
>What do you mean with Double Sabers
Melee combat was better (MY OPINION) in PSU. You had the just frame system PSO2 has but you had to watch animation frames rather htn a timing circle.
Phonton arts were lveled, very grindy but they also had a combo system. You'd do 1-2-3 normal hits then 1-2-3 of the photon art combo. You had to get the art to level 11/21 to unlock the 2nd and 3rd parts of the combo but they were alot of fun.
PSO2 lets you use photon arts at any point but you only have small moves instead of a long combo. Granted pso2 finnaly gave ranged some photon arts and fixed techs but ya, melee was better in psu.
Also doubler saber design is ass in pso2.
>>340725390>platonically/paternally close to a female professor of mine
>can speak about virtually anything around each other
>know that she wishes her tits were a bit perkier/didn't sag as much
>tfw virgin who is unattracted to saggy titsNot that I've seen them.
>>340724573
SAO is a series made by an idiot who didn't do basic research in mmorpgs. So many problems, so much stupid little basic things that ruin it.
I miss.hack, well GU at least.
>Playing FF14
>Go collect this anti crystal so we can fly through this storm
>Lol that's the wrong crystal, it'll make the storm stronger
>Lol this is also the wrong crystal, this is fire and you want ice, silly
Fucking god tier story right here
>>340725823
TITAN QUEST ARC.
I have no triggered everyone who has played that shit.
>>340725690
Whatever you say, anon.
>>340725752
Shit taste to be honest, kin. If you're really that close with her you should make her feel confident in toting around such a rack, regardless of your personal tastes. A mature, sane, full figured woman is a rare thing indeed.
>>340726091She gets plenty of attention and has had several relationships in the past. She's a tall and (extremely) pale redhead. She doesn't need my validation.
>>340726182
Christina Hendricks?Far be it from me to expect anyone to take advice on 4chan, but a little moral support goes a long way anon.
Depends on what kind of MMO you like.
>>340687817
>Tree of Savior was the last hope
>a nexon published mmo was the last hope
This means you have shit taste and nobody should take your opinion seriously. Consider getting a trip so I can filter you out.
>>340725821
That is why I said it was shit.
>Two stats (STR and DEX)
>No long range weapons
>"I landed in this area because my sister was playing the game and internet connection mumbo jumbo"
>8 or 12 (I forget) skills locked out accept for one player for each skill
>Alleged gamers not knowing basic tactics
>Beta testers being assholes for some reason and not sharing info despite the fact that it would help them in the long run
>Beta testers being pariahs even though their knowledge of the game becomes irrelevant by the 5th floor out of literally a hundred floors
>MC turns into a giant monster and wrecks shit even though it is supposed to be an illusion
>Villain of 2nd arc literally makes his virtual brainwashing lab accessible in-game
>Players able to access AND view other players' menus by fucking about with their hands
>Undressing to put on new armor instead of swapping out existing armor (seriously, Phantom Bullet was hands down the WORST arc)
The actual computer game that you can buy is alright from a gameplay perspective. But the anime is utter shit. The only people I know that actually like the anime have never/barely played RPGs, let alone MMORPGs. I think I read in one of the afterwords of the novels that Sword Art Online is was Reki Kawahara THOUGHT high level play would be like.
>>340726420
Not that much.She's likely taller than Hendricks (she's... 5'9.5" IIRC?) and her tits aren't as large but they are still sizable.
Seriously though she doesn't need my validation nor does she require it. She knows thatI'm a mid-20s KVand while I've told her thatI'm invisible to females,she has also stated that she was invisible during her younger years despite having I don't know how many "boyfriends" in HSher father sent her a fucking box of 'love letters' she had saved from HS not even making this upand she had a six-year-long 'college sweetheart' relationship.
Don't get me wrong. Not trying to find any excuse not to take advice or be like the kind of person to disregard any form of advice given but I'm trying to explain my reasoning here.
Just play Old School Runescape, the last non-casual MMO there is.
>>340724573
Read Progressive instead.
If you hate SAO you still won't like it, but it fixes a ton of pacing problems.
>>340725729
>Loved the shit out of PSO (1500+ hours)
>Try out PSO2 as a Sword main
>Everything is fine
>Suddenly Mining Base Invasion
>"Oh god why can't I touch anything"
>"Why does everyone kill everything so fast"
>"Please let me touch something"
Pure concentrated suffering ;_;
>>340725390
Smaller to medium sized tits should be perky.
Bigger tits need a little sag so you know they're genuine tits and not fake.
>>340724205
I think BDO strikes a good balance.
Because if you go the other route like in SWG then you have retarded shit where crafters hoard all the power and the entire meta-game was an eternal conspiracy/gank between them.
>>340727064
As an Asuna fan I can't into Progressive. Feels too much like Kirito is cheating on the perfect girl.
Are there any MMOs that let you play support classes?
I'm not talking healers. I went from FFXI to WoW, and one thing I always missed was being able to play those debuff/buff classes like Bard
>>340701475
FASHION.
>>340727435
LotR:O has Bards, or something like it. You can music enemies to death.
I want a sequel to Atlantica Online run by a less greedy company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oemhdi50aE
>>340727064
The pacing isn't the problem, it's the fact that the story supposedly takes place in a game yet the writer clearly has no idea about basic game design or "gamer psychology" or however you want to phrase it. Most of the characters act like it's their first time playing a game (justified with Asuna) and from the way the "game" is described and how events play out, it seems less like a game and more like an alternate reality.
>>340727326
>Asuna
>perfect girl
That's a weird way to spell Suguha. Either way, all the characters are shit (except for Yuuki/Zekken/Absolute Blade).
Why aren't there more sex based MMOs? God knows MMO players are a bunch of horny bastards who love ERP and sex appeal is the only reason people played Scarlet Blade and most Asian MMOs.
>>340687690
Imma playing in dragon's dogma online.
It's quite casual the raid takes up to 30 mins while pve without co-op is unforgivable and quite challenging.
>>340687690
>MMOs
>worth playing
Planetside 2 was great.
MMORPGs all suck though.
>>340687690 (OP)
Mabinogi
>>340727104
PSO2 is cruel for sword main.
Why do MMOs seem to always come out in Asia first? Even MMOs based on western games like Civilization Online comes out in Korea first. Why?
>>340727203
BDO PVE is aoe grinding. Boss fight is avoiding the one shot attacks, or better - simply rolling a ranged character.
BDO PVP is random locks due to unanimated CCing, teleporting people, unsynced damages and animations, and terrible balance overall.
So that's a good balance for you I guess.
>>340728261
But we're talking sandbox vs themepark design, not combat mechanics.
>>340724778
You should read the thread instead of just counting the number of time Rift is mentioned.
Everyone's saying they gimped the leveling by increasing the exp way too much for a lot of functions like adventuring, meaning you just storm to 50+ so there is no body in the starting regions. You can also tell the same about WoW.
is getting back into TESO worth it?
bought it in january 2015 and played those 30 days that came with the game
the combat felt wonky as fuck and the hwole game was 95% skyrim
>>340728348
he was shitposting, anon. that's all it was, sadly.
>>340728128
>Maidoll
Wait...
>>340727778
your loss
>revealing impractical armor offers more protection against attacks, harmful elements than a full body practical armor
>>340727864
Mabinogi is basically what I want from an MMO, but executed in the wrong way. Combat feels weird and sluggish. Life points take too long to accumulate and force you to specialise instead of taking on a whole bunch of skills that strike your fancy like you want to.
>>340728128
Still?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7afi4K8g-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1yQL35xCxE
>>340728449
theres a lot of pso2 comics on his pixiv
>>340728261
A good balance of themepark vs sandbox?
As said, nothing you can makes an impact in the world. You can see some people's farmplots and guildies workers, that's about it as the "sandbox" part. Or do you include being able to have a ship/caravan/horse in the open a part of the game being sandbox?
People still afk autorun to level their stats in cities because they are PVP-protected there, and nobody does PKing anyway because how heavily penalized it is.
The questing is also linear as fuck. The only part where it stop being linear is the new areas because you are already 50+ at that point. And then questing only gives contribution points, no character evolution.
Not really sure what you find good in it
>>340727435
Pretty much the only classes I play too man.
Fuck tanks, fuck healsluts, fuck DPS. A support class where you can mass debuff a horde of enemies, have a fuckload of buffs and ability boosters up your arsenal, crowd control, cripple bosses by cursing them, and having the ability to remove debuffs/drainers on the whim is where it's at.
There's a reason why they aren't placed in most MMOs. They are too OP. You put a class that can weaken enemies and control the flow of combat and you're basically risking the chance of your content be shitted on.
>>340728870
You can affect the world economy depending on what you trade and sell. You can affect local taxes and productivity by capturing nodes with your guild. You can invest in banks which requires competing with others to be the richest. You can PK anywhere but certain protected zones to control leveling and resource zones. You can play through most of the game focusing on life and economical skills, not combat.
etc. etc.
It's a lot more sandbox than 99% of MMOs out there today.
If you're looking for UO or some shit like that, then you should probably shut up and stop whining since that's not going to happen.
>>340727673
>Kurwa
lol
>>340729934
>player affected economy
Thats not a sandbox at all. Simply think of the term "sandbox". What can you do in a sandbox? Oh i remember when as a kid me and my friends used to build shit and sell to each other That never actually happened . Now think of a sandbox game. What can you do in one of them? Now make it one big ass server and add RPG elemnts. That my friend is real sandbox MMORPG.
Camelot Unchained is the only MMO worth waiting for, I feel sorry for people playing today's MMORPG.
Shards Online might also be good but pre-alpha looks horrible
now that this thread is nearly dead I will recommend lotro. It has the best community, world, and is the best traditional mmo on the market now that WoW is basically a queue simulator with moba levels of abilities that could be played on a controller.
I don't want too many of you guys to join though since the community is actually so based that if you act up in /world chat you'll get report swarmed so fast that you'll be banned within 5 minutes. The GM's are always watching like hawks and delight in slapping down upstarts.
>>340732421i'll download it just to start spamming "hitler did nothing wrong"
>>340687690
No, the genre died when F2P became the standard, as they don't have to really make an effort and can just cash in on the addicted for some months.
>>340729934
The prices on the market don't depend on player actions.
Selling don't make the prices go up and buying don't make the prices go down.
There is no Node wars yet so there is absolutely no control of territory (including world pvp).
Banks require no direct interaction with other player. Town-run investment banks require absolutely nothing.
City interior point based investment banks require spamming decorations (P2W as those one gives you tons of interior points and for "free").
Pking everywhere is a sandbox element? Ah.
You can also play through most of the game focusing on life skills in WoW.
You will be capped at what you do with life skills unless you grind quests which are mainly combat/level based.
This still forces you to combat.
Looks like you didn't play the game very much
>>340732530
it'd be a waste of your time senpai but okay
>>340732696
You don't know what im capable of.
>>340732642
>There is no Node wars yet
Still? By the time it hits the people interested in it have already left
>>340732969
Including myself.
Utterly pathetic.
What are some MMOs where I can play as a sexy elf lady? Doesn't even have to be a good game, just with a lot of skimpy outfits and lewdness.
>>340697787
FFXIV, hands down
>>340734904
Obviously TERA.
This thread reminds me I made an account and Elin character back when they were giving away free max-level classes. I made her some class that used bigass swords, and then never really played the game, I should probably go give it a try.
>>340687690
4chan seems to get really thirsty in the summer season. literally porn in half of the boards
>>340736391
Goes into heat, I'd say. Which is why I think an MMO based on ecchi/actual sex might work well.
i just want an mmo to play. someone give me a free mmo please, anything
>>340724823
Couldn't agree more, nobody is there to enjoy themselves, everyone's playing out of some sick obligation to keep improving their character. And if you haven't finished content before, forget about finding a group to run it. MMO players are great at spoiling any possible enjoyment in MMOs.
I resubbed to wow this month for a comfy game to play in exams month, but now i'm bored because there's anything relevant to do since Legion will come down.
I can't even do in time the legendary mission because of the timegates, and the professions are like a mobile game now.
At least next month once I finish exams I can play FFXIV and continue the ARR patch missions, I hope the endgame is better than WoW, or at least not full timegated even in professions.
>>340736687
Wildstar just got a "steam release".
>>340737187
I think id rather play a korean mmo
>>340737526
Tree of Savior then. I'm not actually playing these games myself, but you asked for anything..
Age of Conan is good.
>>340737808
i know anon i know..... but you know how i feel, right?!
give me.... give me a nameless korean mmo that i've never heard of thats out in america.
>>340709621
I'm doing the same right now. It's fun. Just ignore the whole story and you have an okay game. Might even buy the expansion soon. People said it has harder maps and raids or something, which is all I wanted.
>All these Pay 2 Win MMOs
So as long as you're not spending a single cent like the jews you all are, you're completely okay playing MMOs that let you buy your way to the top?
>>340737809
its dead
>>340738524
then give us one thats free and not p2w
Gonna be totally honest, the only MMO I can remember having the most fun in was Guild Wars 1.
It's a true shame Arena Net decided to completely drop it once Guild Wars 2 came out.
Modern MMOs are just shitty RPGs with co-op sometimes. Just play a good single player RPG instead.
Is ROSE Online still a thing?
>>340690171
I love that fucking frog so much
>>340687690
I argue everquest, my favorite part of the game just to level 70, so its almost entirely free to play, and with mercenaries, you don't have to rely on retards to do content.
if you really like the game, the balance in the game gets better the higher level you go, and it is fun learning how to play your class well, because just reading what abilities of your own stack with each other puts you into the top 100 players in the game (the average player is just that fucking bad)
>>340726746
>nexon published
That's only true for Korea.
I still play LOTRO once in a while. It had a good story, you know who the heroes of the overarching plot is, but it doesn't make your role any less significant. Unfortunately it all kind of went down hill after Rohan; the landscape looked nice, but everything else including the writing got stale.
>>340687690
You can try Blade & Soul for some glorious chinese thighs.
Or you could play Phantasy Star Online 2 with the fan english patch.
>>340728164
Because....they are made in Korea or Japan?
I play MMO for boobs, desu.
FFXIV if you want a MMO
Black Desert if you want cheesecake
who wanna play tibia here
>>340743938
how u mean
Wildstars Pretty fun, Got a good f2p model if you're a poorfag.
>>340743938
>FFXIV
>MMO
>>340727532
This pls
>>340742663
and in korea its even fucking better than the global one
in fact its mediocre tier compared to the international version which is without a doubt poopsock tier
I prefer playing with strangers than my real life friends. I feel like there's less responsibility and they don't bug me to log in all the time when I'd rather do something else. I'm not one to participate much in raids/dungeons either. I stick to PVP/world boss runs.
>>340745851
yeah dude holy shit
mabinogi europe was the shit, I'd meet so many people to run dungeons and even plain worlds in
>i was even in a band
holy shit the memories
>>340687690
Camelot Unchained
there is hope.
https://bbs.mapleglobal.org/
>>340688629
>>340701083
>>340690962
>>340691149
>>340715396
>camelot unchained
Glad to see I'm not the only one keeping my eye on it. I am cautiously optimistic. It will show if Jacobs really has got it, or just got butt crazy lucky with DAoC
>>340699443
>initiation
>bring out the nigger
>>340687690
I play wakfu, and havingfun
>>340696726
Forgotten Realms is a masturbatory fantasy world for Ed Greenwood's mary sue Elminster character, whom he used to play before the setting became published. Decades later he's still jacking it to that faggy wizard.
>>340746116
MS was freemium before freemium was popular.And it still fucking blew.
>>340746116
>wants to play gms
>can't because ip block (unless you were a special one who actually had an old account saved before the block)
>years go by
>europe maplestory announces merge with GMS servers which means we get to play with all the latest features GMS ships out
>no more IP block essentially
hahyeahno fuck off nexon, back to the pserver I go
>>340699794
Yes, but then normalfags cried that they couldn't live out their adolescent power fantasies and the devs caved and ruined the game. The moral of the story is that Syndrome was right.
>>340702089
>can a game being too autistic for you guys
>can a game being
looks like you're a prime candidate for speaking on behalf of autism lmao
>>340746826
I don't believe you.
>>340707570
Korean ArcheAge is actually VERY good. Sadly TrinoPLS raped the western release to fill their pockets...
there is only a good one and it isDDO
>>340695234
It's shit, the company behind it made sure that maps where you could powerlevel were never a thing anymore.
>>340701748
It literally doesn't change, you can complete world bosses without talking to a single person
The best MMO was Lineage II Interlude. Literally nothing comes close with the exception of WoW and Burning Crusade
>>340750172
This. That game fucking stole 6 years of my life and ruined every other MMO for me in the process.
Nothing even comes close to touching L2. I just want that again. Fuck this gay earth.
>>340750551
You dont have to tell me. Its still quite big in europe and my country. A popular server pops up from time to time in Greece and a bunch of old friends/guildies gather up and we get addicted again. L2 Interlude is a fucking drug
>>340703062
>Domo
Sorcerers in ESO get three diffrent minions. (Two of which are toggle minion. You can just keep them out permanently.)
The imp is what you start out with. It's pretty weak, but it drawn agro away from you. You can morph it into a clannfear that does way more.
Later on, you'll get the winged twilight, and it's awesome. You can morph it to heal you or restore your mana. Both are really good options.
You then unlock an ultimate skill that summons a giant storm atronach for a short time. It wrecks shit.
Mabinogi was and still is one of the best MMOs out there, a shame it's so fucking lacking in new blood or blood in general.
If they would've just managed to not do the whole subscription bullshit on launch, it would've no doubt been huge in the west still to this day.
I'm thinking of resubbing to ff14 but the game is shit if you are not a hardcore raider or a casual erpfag.
>>340750909
There's three ways to play a really awesome sorcerer. I main the class and STILL haven't chosen what's more fun.
>Minion Master
Both skill bars have both minion summons on them. It allows for you to swap weapons without dispelling your summons.
You're basiclly the DPS for your healer and tank. The badass Clannfear is your tank, and the twilight keeps both of you healed.
If shit hits the fan, you bring out the storm atronach.
>Storm Caller
Ever wanted to use force lighting? Ever wanted to kill world bosses in seconds? Make a storm calling build.
You'll mostly just blast everything with a shit load of AoE. It's best to have the Vampire skill line for the self healing it gives you.
>Storm Tank
Ever wanted to be a stamina based mage that tanks hits while forming lighting all around your body? This is awesome.
Grab a shield, a one handed weapon of your choice, pop lightning form, and pull all the aggro you can.
Enjoy.
>bought BDO
>if you don't want to look like a peasant for the rest of your live you are bound to pay 30$+ in the shop
I am okay with cosmetics in a cash shop, but putting ALL the cosmetics there? Guess I will have to go back to GW 2 for my catwalk, at least you could grind for stuff there.I mean the Kibelius armor makes my dick hard and all but 30 bucks?
Unless you're into weeb shit or korean grinders as an excuse to jack off while playing video games, the only acceptable mmos are:
>Ultima Online
(perferably private shards tho retail is acceptable, broadsword has brought a lot of neat shit in)
>SWGemu
(at least two of the shards are acceptable)
>WoW
(faggots)
>Guild Wars
(is dead but GW2 is an abomination and you should feel bad if you mentioned it)
>Haven & Hearth2
(had a shitty payment model at launch, is now fair and you can likely play for free since all all of you are shitters)
>Warhammer [age of reckoning] emu
Getting better all of the time, the pvp is lightyears ahead still of most modern garbage, needs more population
>EQ project 1999
You gaylords wouldn't be able to handle it anyhow, too much effort, too much communication needed, and way too few elf boobies for you to ERP about
Any mmo discussion on /v/ devolves into WoW vs X and whichever korean empty shell game is popular. Also anyone who tried to convince anyone that ESO is anything but hot garbage is a bad person IRL and should feel terrible about themselves.
>>340687690
The golden age is dead.
>>340689389
>Pandas will be great
>Disappointed
>Warlords will be great
>Disappointed
>L-Legion will be great
Blizzdrones are the worst
Right now, no.
FFXIV used to be worth it, but they turned into a themepark with nothing worthwhile to do and the story is shit to begin with. panders to casuals and theres little to no worthwhile content because they are obsessed with nerfing the shit out of everything even remotely challenging. Stopped playing it maybe 6months ago and sure enough, they havent added anything worthwhile in the past 6 months.
Tested black desert, its a technical mess with a drawdistance that is only rivaled by playstation 1 games. Terrible combat and the whole interface is a fucking nightmare. Oddly enough it even runs like shit.
Everything older is just fucking shit, they didnt improve in all this time.
I want a decent MMO that has a clean look to it, runs well on high end systems and has content. They need to drop this "we want the best graaaphyx ever!" meme and focus on making an MMO thats worth someones time.
>>340688672
How is black desert always praised for its graphics? It has terrible pop in with everything maxed out, terribly done hair on characters and little to no customization.
The game has terrible anti-aliasing, all the grass and plants look like total dogshit too. The only thing the game does well is the character creation thing, but even that isnt as good as people make it out to be. I was so pissed off that I wasted 30euros on that fucking shit.
>>340752496
>How is black desert always praised for its graphics?
neckbeards and tits
that's why
>>340751387
>hardcore raider
Please dont. We had a semi "hardcore" group since launch and we got fucked in the ass. We witnessed all the stuff we worked hard on made so trivial and easy that we all ragequit the game during heavensward. Which reminds me that heavensward was a fucking massive dissapointment.
The game is full of ERP, FC drama and just...fucking drama in general. It has the absolute worst community I have ever witnessed in a game ever. Passive aggressive little weeb shits each and every one of the players. Fucking disgusting.
The game could have been good, but yoshi P just insisted on pandering to the worst fucking part of the community. I hope he fucking dies.
>>340751892
>Unless you're into weeb shit
I'll defend mabinogi no matter how weaboo tier that shit is, no other game has let me play a combat bard-paladin in full fucking plate armor
I mean haven might change that soon since all of these new music instruments being added, but chances are I can't bash peoples heads open with the instruments or channeling meteors (really fucking slowly) at enemies.
>>340751892
Which shards are acceptable for swgemu?
I imagine that basilisk is one, but fuck that broken economy.
>>340752726
I know and it sucks but its either HC or be super casual and wait until they make it lockout free and easy or have a full gear replacement with higher ilevel and easier ways to obtain them. For those like me stuck in the middle we're fucked.
>>340687690
>KuF will never come out in your lifetime
>>340746128
Only chance it has is if they leave out battlegrounds this time. RvRvR requires people to be out in the world, and battlegrounds just make the less populated side even more unpopulated as the players retreat to arenas because it's more "fair".
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