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Why is this game so good?


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Why is this game so good?
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the music and exploration
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Yangus saying U WOT every 5 minutes.
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>>340685723
running this beast on pc in marvelous 1080p
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One of the best implementations of a classic world map in gaming
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>tfw haven't played it yet

NINTENDO GIVE ME THE RELEASE DATE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Watching little sister play through it
>Planning on playing the 3DS version when it comes out to see the difference

Best of both worlds.
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>>340685723
because it is the perfect "classic" jrpg.
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>>340685723
Should I buy the 3DS version? Never played a Dragon Quest before
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>>340686285

Enjoy your screwed up graphics and nerfing of everything. Twin Dragon Lash is useless now, as is pretty much every other decent damage dealer.
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I played it back in the day an lost interest halfway through.
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>>340685723
Because Level-5 used to actually give a shit before they found out they could make mountains of cash appealing to children.
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>>340686220
waiting for a shitty inferior release by nintenjew on 3ds when the game run perfectly fine on pc for fucking free
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>>340686427
Oh. No. I might have to get around that in an RPG series that is catered to be babby's first RPG.

What.
ever.
shall.
I.
do?
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>>340685723
Timbrel of Tension is why

Well that and the fact that random battles can be pretty deadly so something more than "attack, attack, attack" can be recommended
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>>340686526
my pc is a relic from 2006

also I want to support western releases of dq games so that more games get localized
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>>340686518
SE wouldn't have let them mess up their baby anyways
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So a friend of mine gave me 9. Haven't played it yet. How is 8 compared to 9?
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-The best example of free roaming open world in JRPGs so far
-Amazing music
-Solid cast of likable characters; characters drive the story instead of the story dictating the motive and actions of the characters
-Best use of cel shaded graphics so far and the best looking game on PS2
-Takes most of the cliches of JRPGs and improves them
-Amazing use of end game content and twist on the 'chosen hero' archetype
-Almost perfect progression and flow to the story and gameplay, thanks to typical Yuji Horii magic

Basically, its the best JRPG since Chrono Trigger and Suikoden II. And there has yet to be a JRPG since that surpasses it. And since we won't get to play Dragon Quest X or XI, there may never be one to surpass it in the west.
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>>340686604
god i hated the tension mechanic after IX, i totally forgot they introduced it in VIII

you know what, fuck the skill system too

actually i don't even think i liked VIII's gameplay that much all, but the entire rest of the presentation is so magnificent that it's still one of my favorite games in the series
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>>340686526
>>340686427

>guys the 3DS version sucks!
>guys!
>GUYS LISTEN TO ME!

Can't go one thread without this guy showing up. So sad.
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>>340686842
9 sucked.
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>>340686849
>tfw you know Japanese but you still can't ever play X because of IP lock
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>>340686664
>also I want to support western releases of dq games so that more games get localized


licking the demonic asshole of nintendo and begging them with money you mean?
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>340687153
not even gonna give you a (you)
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>>340687071
I wonder why they never brought it over, well besides SE being adamant about keeping DQ from the west because raisins
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>>340687071
Aren't there guides for getting around it?
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>>340686849

I forgot:

-Skill system allows for player customization without the need for grinding or getting in the way of the story (one of the few issues of DQVI and VII)
-Every NPC in the game has something useful to say, even if it takes 20 hours before you figure out what it is
-Exploring every single barrel/bookshelf/basket/cupboard/chest/well/etc; towns actually feel interactive and not just a place to find the next quest or cutscene
-Alchemy system is one of the better item crafting systems in RPGs, though some people didn't like the time it took to craft the items, this is being changed in the 3DS so there's no reason to complain anymore
-Gear can change the characters appearance; while pretty common these days it was a big deal on the PS2, only downside was the lack of gear that did this but the 3DS version is making it so all gear changes appearance
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>>340686975
why the fuck would you want someone to play THIS version their first time?
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>>340685723
It was a plot that was both simple and engaging, and had some really neat characters with great arcs. The music was sumptuous and the DQ battle system has never felt or looked so satisfying.

As someone earlier said, it's the perfect "classic" JRPG.

I wish developers would make more games like it, I'm sick of neon haired high school kids hitting monsters using stupid weapons for 201313 damage.
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>>340687153

>Nintendo is the reason we don't get Dragon Quest games
Nintendo (and Koei) is the only reason we are getting DQ games. Its SquareEnix who has been blocking them for the last 4 years. Stop spouting this bullshit like you do every thread.
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>>340685723

yangus is a bro
jessica is a slut
horse pussy
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The two big reasons here
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You know, I had never bothered getting Thin Air on anyone the last two times I played, and now I wonder why the fuck I didn't.
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>>340686078
*with no shadows
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Does the 3DS version have bonuses?
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Because it's Dragon Quest, but it's also one of the best examples of Dragon Quest out there.
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>>340686975

aehm

let me say it one more time:

wasting 40 dollars on a pixelated, 800x240 pixel, sub 25fps version of DQVIII when you could play it for free on pc or for almost nothing on ps2

kek
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Meh, 7 was better.
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>>340687529
>but the 3DS version is making it so all gear changes appearance
Really? I thought they were just adding a few more costumes, most of them for Jessica.
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>>340687561
holy fucking shit
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>>340687847

Rushing 42 points into fists is basically the best way to play the game. And if it wasn't for the undead enemies and bosses, you could completely ignore magic in the first 2/3 the game.
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>>340687885
Red and Morrie are additional party members and there's a super secret special ending where you get to marry Jessica.
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>>340687885
You can marry the titty girl iirc
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>>340687993

Why is she so perfect?
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>>340687926
>>340687561

Dude, we get it. You think graphics are all that matters. You've made this quite clear in every DQ game for months. Can you please just stop shitting up these threads?
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>>340686664
I do to but I can't willing buy an inferior product knowing that it wont have as good music and taking away from random encounters.
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>>340688054
Not like the game is super hard without it, I'm still only bothering in Yangus since I didn't like his Humanity tree last time, and that leaves literally his only useful options for point dumping being Axes and Fisticuffs.

Well, the first few points in Humanity get you some nice stuff but past that is pretty garbage.
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>>340687561
jesus christ why couldn't they just put it on vita at least it would run exactly like the ps2 version
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>>340688097
Twintails.
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>>340687845
VA
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>>340688097
Twintails + tiddies
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>DQ5 on DS adds best girl to marriage list
>DQ8 on 3DS adds best girl to marriage list
I am noticing a pattern
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>>340688173
>it's the first time I ever posted in this kind of thread
>the nintoddler think that every objective opinions about his shit platform come from one single big meanie
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>>340688438
And 2nd best boy as a new party member
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Its hero had a great character design. Fucker looks cool as fuck despite being generic.
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>>340687885

>Does the 3DS version have bonuses?

-Red and Morrie are playable characters
-Expanded story for Medea, Marcello and other characters
-You can marry Jessica instead of Medea (but who would do that since Medea is so perfect?)
-All gear changes a characters appearance, even for characters like Yangus who had no appearance change in the PS2 game
-Skill redistribution
-More monsters to collect for the Monster Arena
-Random battles are removed for on field enemy encounters (a negative in my opinion but every DQ game has done this since Monsters: Joker)
-New end game area
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>>340688173
also
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>>340688438
You think this will inspire more marriage options in future DQ games?
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>>340688217

Well, since Yangus gets so many early skill points, he actually gets the most over the course of the game. At level 50, I had something like 260 skill points for him. Which even after putting 42 points into fisticuffs, gave me enough points to max out Humanity and Axes.
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>>340688548
>Random battles are removed for on field enemy encounters (a negative in my opinion but every DQ game has done this since Monsters: Joker)
As someone who started with Joker, what is the negative here? I liked seeing huge monsters on the map, blocking doorways from afar etc.
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>>340688548
>(but who would do that since Medea is so perfect?)
Fuck that, Jessica is way better. And I'm sure Angelo won't say no to some horse pussy.
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>>340688686
Eh, some people dig random encounters more. I don't mind either way, since your first time through an area most monsters are probably going to catch you anyways unless you try super hard to avoid fighting for some reason.

>>340688671
I think everyone gets the same amount of skillpoints by 99, but yeah through the normal course of the game (level 40-50 usually, unless you overgrind super hard for the Dragovian stuff) Yangus does get the most points.
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>>340688670
I wouldn't mind, since every DQ girl is 10/10
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>>340688686
Random encounter is a big part of the challenge in dragon quest. When you go out you must be fucking prepared m8 and ready for every kind of compo.
Without this it's like playing a fps with wallhack.
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>>340688670
Perhaps? DQ5 was made with marriage in mind from the start though. And 8's is just a neat little extra thing.
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>>340685723
Didn't the localisation team give all the characters those fucking absurd scottish accents? I'd skip it or wait for an undub.
>>340686849
>Basically, its the best JRPG since Chrono Trigger and Suikoden II
>Suikoden II
>The game with awful music, sub shounen anime tier writing, rubbish level design and dozens of glaring technical errors
Jesus Christ m8.... You're actually putting that in the same league as Chrono?
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Oh by the way, if you guys want any webms of specific skills out of the ones I'm getting this time through DQ8 I can post em in future DQ threads.

This time I'm going for
>Swords + Courage (duh)
>Axes + Fisticuffs + Humanity (duh)
>Jessica's gonna kinda be all over the place to cherrypick certain skills, except for Daggers
>Bow + Staff
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>>340687561
it's not enough that every real dragon quest game has dated visuals despite selling millions of copies each, but they have to go back and mangle the only one that has a proper 3d world and relatively decent production values.
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>>340689019
this
if you go unprepared then expect to get your shit kicked in
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>>340687926
>you could play it for free on pc
That requires a PC that doesn't shit its pants.
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>>340688686

Dragon Quest is pretty much the only series I think benefits from random encounters. Since it gives you half a dozen skills and items to control when you actually encounter enemies. Also because battles in the earlier games were so fast. The later games which have used on field enemy encounters have become a slog for metal grinding or trying to capture enemies.

Basically, in an old DQ game, you could encounter an enemy, select actions and finish a battle in 5-10 seconds. And if you wanted to avoid battles, you just use zoom/evac to leave an area, use one of many skills to lower encounter rate or use holy water to avoid battles. While in a game like DQIX, you have to wait 10 seconds for enemies to spawn, physically run into them (giving them a chance to run and taking more time), then select actions and watch a slow fight. Averaging around 40-50 seconds per fight. Which is bad in a game where you need to actually grind battles for skill points. DQVIII thankfully won't need grinding for skill points so on field enemies might be okay.
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>>340689128

>Suikoden II
>The game with awful music
Stopped reading there. 0/10 bait.
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>>340689461
A lot of the areas in DQ8 are pretty narrow anyways, there's gonna be a lot of places where battles are gonna be hard to avoid unless you're overleveled enough to make shit run from you
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>>340687926
>aehm

Opinion Discarded
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>>340689128
>Didn't the localisation team give all the characters those fucking absurd scottish accents?
You are shitting on what many consider to be one of the best game dubs ever made, mainly due to the fact that the original JP version has no voices and no lip-syncing to fuck up.
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>>340689450
>get a ps2
>mod it
>download iso
>burn disc
wow
>or spend $20 for a copy
whoa revolutionary.
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>>340689450

This. I had to buy a whole new PC to be able to run DQVIII on the emulator at 3x AA or higher. And even then, it still doesn't fix the broken flashback scenes and shadows, which are the fault of the emulator itself.

I know the 3DS having downgraded graphics isn't a good thing. We all can agree on that. But the idiot who won't shut up about it needs to shut up himself. Don't like it? Don't buy it and wait for the eventual HD remake. Or pray for Dragon Quest X, which is basically the same graphical design in 1080p (on PC)
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>>340689778
I modded a ps2. There's no way to make it look good on an HDTV, though.

And I gave it to my brother because he wanted to play some ps2
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>>340690009
get a component cable. looks fine on mine.
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>has an enemy that apparently only spawns once
>said enemy has a key role in progressing the plot
>killed enemy before I knew he was important
>can't progress
>throw game away
I have terrible memories of that shit game. Leveling took so goddamn long too.
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>>340689461
If Yangus still gets Padfood, wouldn't you likely be able to use that to sneak up on monsters that would otherwise run?
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>>340685723
Its pretty good. I play it on my Galaxy S4 and runs perfect. Thanks Mobile Gaming
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>>340687071
>Being this openly xenophobic

How can japs keep getting away with it?
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>>340689741

Most people only obsess over Yangus' voice, ignoring how many of the other characters (and especially the fucking bosses) were cheesy as fuck.

DQVIII is my favorite game of all time. But I honestly had to turn the voices off around Pickham. Trode's voiced alone made me want to quit the game. Let alone Medea, Dhoulmagus, Marcello and a host of NPCs. They get high marks for trying to add voices, but a big fat F for making them so cheesy and bad. Maybe if Richard Honeywood hadn't insisted on making them speak in forced British accents and be more toned down, it would have been fine. But they weren't like that. They sounded like a bad anime dub.

When it comes to the 3DS version, the voices for the Japanese version sound a lot closer to what the voices should be. Probably because Dragon Quest is a very anime inspired game and they are using noted anime voice actors. The biggest improvements being Dhoulmagus and Marcello.
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>>340690352

I have no idea. I would hope so. But I could just as easily see them removing padfoot like they did in DQIX. Since it essentially serves no purpose.
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>>340690493
>ignoring how many of the other characters (and especially the fucking bosses) were cheesy as fuck.
The only cheesy voice was Dhoulmagus though, at least to me. Everyone else did quite well.
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>>340690320
>have to get to a mountaintop to progress the story
>have to go down to the river and into a cave
>to get to the top of a mountain
m8
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>>340689956
>it still doesn't fix the broken flashback scenes and shadows,
Are you retarded? Those are both simple fixes.
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>>340690452

Because the west is so desperate for good games, they eat up whatever scraps Japan puts on PC. The one saving grace SquareEnix has is they are actually putting dual audio on their PC releases. Let's hope DQVIII and XI can get the same treatment.

Dragon Quest X however, I don't think has voices at all in the Japanese version. All the more reason it would be easier to localize than they claim. A lot easier than FFXIV, that's for sure.
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>>340690904

>switch from hardware to software mode
>game runs a 10 FPS even on an overpowered PC
>have to chase Empycchu around with massive slowdown and shit music
Whatever you say sempai.
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I absolutely loved this game, might need to replay it at some point. The overall feel is just great.
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My favorite PS2 game.
I really wish this would get a remaster, but it got ported to 3DS instead...
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>>340687926
So like others have said, I would like to encourage sony to release more DQ games in the west, call me a corporate cuck, I don't care. But most of all, playing jrpgs on a handheld is maximum comfy, and if I really like it I can emulate it and be blown away by how much better it looks.
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>>340689956
>broken flashback scenes
Set skipdraw to 2. Fixes most shadows in the game as well.
Gee that was hard. I haven't gotten Empyrea yet so we'll see if that's still broken.
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>>340691447
Forgot my screenshot
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>>340691447

No one had come up with that solution 2 years ago when I played the game emulated. Or the emulator still wasn't stable enough for it.
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>>340688548
>but who would do that since Medea is so perfect?
t h i s
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>>340690767

In just the starting town, you have guys like the bartender and the fortune teller dude who are talking together. And they're over acting so bad, they could steal a Razzy from Keanu Reeves.
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>>340690493
Getting euro's to voice the game was one of the best ideas for this game. Dub was good and I hate dubbed JRPGS
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>>340691649
Yes they did.

>>340691031
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>340691936
But even after all thee years, I haven't forgotten the Great Kalderasha
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https://youtu.be/a8t2D3KtTOI?t=1m27s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysgAjFukrjU

>Dhoulmagus is Marik
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>>340687926
I found PCSX2 pretty easily, where do I find PS2 ISOs?
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Hello?
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I was so lost in this game with the huge map, slow walking, tons of enemies and tons of ways to upgrade your characters like I posted here once because I was only taking points in sword and people were like
>wtf man its fucking trash dont do that

So I kinda stopped playing.
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>>340687561
Because is portable and FREE
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>>340694140

>got lost
>you have a map in dungeons, towns and the overworld
>roads literally lead you to the next main town if you don't want to explore the open areas
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yo fags make me want to play 8 when I still have 6 half done and barely into Heroes.
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>>340694614
Yeah, I mean I don't wanna miss any chest so I spend hours exploring the world map.

Also please, how do I NOT fuck up my stats growth without reading guides online?
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>>340687561
Scarfices have to be made, sacrificing visuals for TONS OF BRAND NEW SHIT.
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When do VII and VIII come out in the West, anyway? I'm more interested in VII since I've actually played VIII.
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>>340695130

Put all your points into one weapon and one passive per character. You can beat the game with any weapon, so long as you max it out. Heck, people have beaten the game with everyone going fisticuffs. So you should be able to do it with whatever you picked. The only way you can really screw up your stats is if you put 50 points into everything.

I have the same issue as you. I dislike playing jon/class based games because I go full autism and want to min/max all stats. But for this game, you really don't need to. Yes, there is a way to play the absolute best and put a very precise amount into each skill. But its not necessary as all it does is make a moderately easy game into a pushover. Dragon Quest VII is the game where you have to be real anal about stats and read guides or you fuck yourself over with a Pirate who can't do anything.
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>>340695376
we'll probably find out tuesday for 7 at least
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>>340695376

For Dragon Quest VII: 'TBA 2016'; A Nintendo rep said they're aiming for September, but the translation is taking longer than they thought. Blame SquareEnix once again for waiting 3 years to even start the localization process.

Dragon Quest VIII: Not even on the table. I would guess sometime in 2017 as not to run into the release of DQVII.
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>>340687561
>playing an rpg for graphics
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>>340695529
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>>340695529
Tell me more of DQ VII's class system, I only know that you can easily get fucked over and nothing else.
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Hey, I'm translating some Dragon Quest material, and I was asked to use the names that come from the latest official localizations. Thing is, I've only played the games in Japanese. A wiki tells me all I need for most things, but I'm not sure about this one.

What name does Loto go by in official localizations these days? Is it Loto or Erdrick? I know both have been used. I think it's Erdrick, but I just want to double check.
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>>340686526
JESSICA ENDING
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>>340697859
It's interchangeable really. Though if you want recent mentions I know the ios ports use Erdrick.
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>>340698289

Probably just use Erdick then. Thanks.
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playing on ps2 master race,obv
i pity non-sonyggers :(
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>>340698664
>not idort master race
>not playing anything on everything
except xbone and vita fuck that shit.
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>>340696919

Its the same exact class system as DQVI. Just with more skills and 3 more classes. You can play DQVI while you wait for it.
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>>340698941
on second thought,you're right. vita is pretty cool,3ds is actually useless.
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>>340695529
Alright, thanks man!
You made me feel like booting my PS2 again.
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>>340699139
Whatever. Enjoy your 3 games.
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>>340696919
sword dance your way to victory
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>>340699243
better than being forced to play fucking pokemon and mario.fucking nintendo...
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>tfw Alena can't shitpost anymore
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>>340699558
Sucks for her.
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>>340695768
There was that one tweet from the official account saying both were slated for 2016.
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What exactly did he do wrong again? Not kiss the ass of the little faggot who got him disowned?

I got mad feels when Angelo saves him, and despite everything, he still tells you to fuck off and just disappears.
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>>340699557
>not enjoying monster hunter, fire emblem, bravely default/second, kid icarus, theatrhythm, dragon quest, etrian odyssey, zelda, rune factory, phoenix wright.

Enjoy your games anon. I'm enjoying mine.
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>>340699935

He shows up in one of the new dungeons in the 3DS version.
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I got this game as a demo on Shonen Jump.

I remember the protagonist could go Super Saiyan in battle.... that was weird.
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>>340700241

It was actually something Plus Alpha added into the game because they felt like it. It wasn't in the Japanese PS2 version or the 3DS version. Not sure if it'll make it into the English 3DS version or not.
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>>340695365
>Scarfices have to be made
no they didn't.
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So what specifically makes this game good? The visuals were great upon release, the soundtrack was decent, the story was tolerable, and the battle system was subpar. What am I missing?
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>>340700221
What, really? As a boss or an npc? D-does he get some proper closure?
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>>340700603

He shows up and aids you during a boss fight as a non-controllable character and then disappears again. I can't quite recall what happens in full, but I think he did it to repay his debt and then he fucks off again.
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I want to replay DQ8 but the combat bores me to tears.

It sucks.
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>>340700523

Just a fun, exploration focused game. Nothing beyond that. Not everything has to be revolutionary to be loved. It did what it did well and that made many people happy.
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>>340686975
>dat pic
More
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Oh. Still here.
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>>340699243

>3 games
I have more good 3DS games than that and that's with none of the DQ games being released. If we got the DQ games in the west, that would be 7 good games just with one series.
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>>340701185
>play DWM, terry is your usual cute boy protag
>play VI years later, Terry is a colossal dick
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>>340699935

>What exactly did he do wrong again? Not kiss the ass of the little faggot who got him disowned?
Nothing. He even fought off the influence of the staff for quite a while and had the best scene in the game. His only flaw is probably letting his anger overtake his decisions. And even then, he was still able to take over the entire church and outfox your team, even being mad with hate. He's an antagonist done right. And he isn't even an antagonist.

>>340699782

Didn't see that tweet. But then again

>tweet
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>>340701034

No.
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>>340700523

>So what specifically makes this game good?
Read the thread where multiple people have explained it. If you want specifics, read >>340686849 and >>340687529
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>>340701505
>jessica will never whip you
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>>340701830
Too bad.
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>>340687529
>>340687968

>but the 3DS version is making it so all gear changes appearance

It didn't. It was a commonly held belief, people made themselves believe that when Jessica's censored bikini showed up in a trailer, but no, it's no different from the PS2 version.
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>>340702168

Except for the director of the remake said its happening. And the dozens of images we have of different gear on different characters not found in the PS2 game.

Why are people working so hard to come up with lies against this game?
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>>340702695
On paper that sounds cool but this looks really really terrible! Why didn't they remake the game for anything but the 3DS? And that armor, what were they thinking?
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>>340701185
You realize I was defending the 3ds and said the vita had three games right?
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>>340702695

I've played the game. There are some new costumes, but that's it. Look up any let's play on Youtube if you want, skip around, see if you can find character's appearances changing. Here, I'll help you out. Use this to search ドラゴンクエストVIII 3ds 実況プレイ.
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>>340685723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg236zrHA40

GOAT OVERWORLD THEME
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>>340702695
Soo why are you working so hard to come up with lies in favor of this game?
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this game is crazy long right? I have a lot of JRPGs I want to play but I've heard this one can be a brutal time sink.
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>>340687561
disgusting

just die nintendo please. just die already
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>>340685723
What's the chance of this getting released on PS4?
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>>340703127
It's kinda long yeah.

Not super super long like say DQ7 but it's up there. At least on your first time though.
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>>340703127

DQ VIII? It's not that bad. Took me around 60ish hours, several hours of which I fucked around in the casinos. DQ VII is the one that you don't want to play if you have a social life.
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>>340703127
>brutal time sink
People consider Final Fantasy XIII to be a brutal time sink as it's generally believed that the game doesn't get good until you're around 30 hours in.

Dragon Quest VIII may take like 50+ hours, but it's a damn good 50+ hours.
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>>340703318
>Dragon Quest VIII may take like 50+ hours, but it's a damn good 50+ hours.
Except for the time spent in random battles. Which is a lot of it.
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>>340703282
>>340703318
Bull fucking shit.
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=2824

Stop misleading him, DQ8 is long as fuck.
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>>340703457

Are you the "Equipment changes your appearance" guy? You could take 70+ hours, but I only took 60ish and I took my time with it and did sidequests. I didn't 100% it or anything.
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>>340703575
Read the link, retard.
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>>340703707

I did, hence

>You could take 70+ hours

You're a hell of a contrarian. You chose the right website to hang out on.
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>>340702840

>Why didn't they remake the game for anything but the 3DS?
The same reason they made all the other DQ games for the 3DS. Its outselling any console in Japan by a factor of 12. Yuji Horii even had to make a 3DS version of Dragon Quest XI in order for SquareEnix to accept him making it for PS4.
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>>340703848
I hope it bombs then. Fucking jews.
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>>340703457

My first playthrough of DQVIII I took 140 hours. In my second playthrough, it took 80 hours. Many people go under 80 hours even on their first playthrough because they just rush to story events and don't explore. Only reason my first game took 140 hours is because I spent 40 of those hours grinding metal slimes. And because I picked the absolute worst weapons (boomerang, sythes, knives and bows). And I still was able to defeat the Dragovian Lord with that setup.
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>>340703909

Careful not to cut yourself on those edges.
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Collectibles and meaninlgless quest to do, also open world and good graphics.
Everything else is shit, characters are less than average, story is SLOW AS FUCK, like I played it for 35 fucking hours, no sidequests and I barely know a bit of what is going on...fucking bullshit.
Too bad because the fighting system was very good too.
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Post best song in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjfdQYo-G_I
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is caravan heart worth playing
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What would be the best game to play for someone who only knows this as the dragon ball guy's game?
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>>340704557

Chrono Trigger
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>>340704329

>story is SLOW AS FUCK

People don't really play Dragon Quest for the story. They play it to have an adventure.

>>340704557

If you've got the time, start from DQ I and work your way up, it's fun. Just know that DQ II and DQ VI aren't the best in the series (nor is DQ IX, but I think I'm in the minority on that one). Not that they're absolute shit, just got as good at the rest.

Otherwise, DQ III, IV, V, and VIII are all great starting places. Since the 3DS version of VIII is getting localized relatively soon, I'd say wait for that one unless you can into Nihongo.
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>>340686526
>when the game run perfectly fine on pc for fucking free
Can you faggots fucking stop with this? There are huge fucking white artifacts in text and you wont' be able to get past the shadow part of the game that possesses Jessica because the shadow won't work. Same with Empyrea shadow.

I'm a PC faggot and would encourage PS2 emulation at any time, but holy fuck quit pretending emulation works at 100% when you dipshits just quit at the first section saying "PC wins again, bay-bay!" instead of actually completing the game.

https://youtu.be/M6kTwT3iTHE
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>>340704329
>Too bad because the fighting system was very good too.
What, really? How so? I thought it was bland as fuck and was the worst part of the game. Battles just feel like a chore and there's very minimal need for strategy.
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>>340686849
Inventory system is garbage though. You can't tell at a glance if a piece of equipment is better than what you have equipped if it's in the cart. That bothers me immensely.

The rest of your post is pretty spot on.
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>>340705116

>You can't tell at a glance if a piece of equipment is better than what you have equipped if it's in the cart.

Really? You can in the Japanese version. I've heard that the localizers fucked the game up massively though.
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>>340705116

>You can't tell at a glance if a piece of equipment is better than what you have equipped if it's in the cart.
Its called the bag. And when you select it, it shows you the numbers. And the number turns green if its higher defense and red if its lower. Its also not that hard to just read the number. What you have equipped gives 18 defense and the item in your bag gives 21 defense. Wow, that's so damn hard.

Even a game like Final Fantasy X had a worse system than this. And that game focused on graphics.
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>>340705495
Yeah, which means taking the equipment out of the cart and into the bag just to look at stats. That's dumb.
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>>340704846
Try reading the thread for the fix, retard.
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>>340705591

>Yeah, which means taking the equipment out of the cart and into the bag just to look at stats.
There is no cart. What you keep calling the cart is the bag. And you don't have to take things out of the bag to see the stat difference. You had to do that in older games, but not DQVIII.
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>>340705707
Yes.
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>>340705731
Maybe I'm mis-remembering it. Pretty sure there was though but I'll take your word for it since it's been years since I touched that game.
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>>340705786
These dudes wanted porn and fanart of her to be made when they designed her.

So whats a good battle plan to have going into 8 when leveling and distributing skill points?
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>>340705469
>I've heard that the localizers fucked the game up massively though.
Really? I thought the international menu interface is much better than the jap version and so is the orchestral soundtrack.
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>>340706106
Indeed.

>So whats a good battle plan to have going into 8 when leveling and distributing skill points?
You should generally stick to one thing. It's okay to branch out though. Like Spear(Or sword) and Courage for Hero. For example.
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What's the best way to get DQVIII working on pcsx2?

I remember that it had terrible issues with following Empychu's shadow, and you needed special options to see shadows properly or something like that

Got an i7 2600k OC for reference.
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>>340706301
Thanks man. I wish everyone on /v/ was you. You post great lewds and are usually helpful when questions are asked.
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>>340685723
Tension is interesting; not necessary
Silent protag
Kickass hamster pal
You get a Bro party mate before a Ho party mate
Decent pacing, never stuck in the same area for too long that it feels like a grind. Not much grinding, since the game is generally quite easy.
Decent customizability, that doesn't bog you down with too many options, but the choices you make heavily impact how your character will play.
XBOX TIDDIES.
Great soundtrack
Game looks BEAUTIFUL - cell shaded characters in a 3d environment that just works.
Usual convenience options for speedy world travel
No straight up ANNOYING characters
The story GOES PLACES and gets you moving around the world quickly.
Great storytelling
Classic DQ vibe
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>>340706428
Thanks anon.
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>>340706134

Well, I've heard they've fucked up the menus and introduced lag at any rate. I like the simple menus in the Japanese version, but I've never used or seen much of the English menus, so I can't say for sure. And then there's all the whimsical name changes and the like, but the orchestral music is definitely better. People also seem to really like the voice acting. I've only ever heard Jessica and Zaban's, which were both terrible, but still, people liked them and the Japanese wish they had them.
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Did anyone else put Jessica at the front of the party, equip her with some shitty costume armor, and just use the 'defend' command in battle to keep her alive?

>>340706106
Hero: swords/spears + courage (or, put some into fisticuffs at the start until you learn that multitarget attack)
Yangus: humanity for heal, axes for helm splitter, then either more axes or some fisticuffs for that one attack (what's it called again?)
Jessica: 3 staves for accelerate, 23 whips for twin dragon lash, then either more staves or more sex appeal. Later on add more to whips for some minor attack bonuses.
Angelo: I have no idea
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>>340687561
What if I don't give a shit?
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>>340706481
>Great storytelling
>doge steal scepter of evil and becomes evil dog is great storytelling

My sides, that game sucked big time, 100 hours down wasted that i will never get back.
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>>340706620
Thanks man.
>>340706561
No. Thank you.
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>>340706106

>So whats a good battle plan to have going into 8 when leveling and distributing skill points?
Just focus on maxing two skills per character as you will have around 200-250 points by the end of the game (level 45 approximately).

If you really want to min/max everything, this is what I did on my last playthrough:

Hero: Spears (100), Swords (28 for Metal Slash), Boomerangs (12), Courage (100)
Yangus: Fisticuffs (42 for Thin Air), Axes (82), Humanity (100)
Jessica: Knives (40 for Falcon Blade), Whips (66), Staves (13), Sex Appeal (66)
Angelo: Swords (82), Staves (32), Charisma (82)
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>>340706620
Um no, because I actually fucking used her? God fucking damn whips were OP and I always go 100 into sex appeal because it feels wrong not to, so enemies were always losing turns and shit. Not to mention all here awesome spells.

Granted I was gimping her by sticking her in a slutty outfit instead of her best armor but still.
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>>340706963
Well if you insist.
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>>340706925
It's very character-centric and has great use of cinematic effects. The story itself is classic DQ/RPG trope.
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First fully 3D Dragon Quest with Zelda-style world map.

Memorable British-accent voiceovers.

That orchestral soundtrack.
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>>340707015
Thanks man.
>>340707109
I do. You've helped me plenty of times and add hundreds if not thousands to my image collection
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>>340707328
I hope you have fun. Don't be afraid to ask another question if you want.
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>>340707661
I won't. I'm actually going to start 2 soon. I've only ever played 1. I'd like to play in order. I just wanted the information for future use.
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What determines your chance to successfully run from battle?
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The presentation is amazing for a series not known for that kind of thing.
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>>340707015

>Whips (66)

I'm guessing for Twin Dragon Strike, or whatever it's called? That was nerfed in the 3DS version unfortunately. It works well for a while but stops being useful later on. Though the 3DS version has Gelda/Red and her Killer Juggling ability, so you really don't need it.
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>>340707850
2's..okay. Don't feel bad for using a guide if you get lost. It's pretty understandable.
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>>340708104
Moonbrooke a best
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>>340708226
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>>340708104
Thanks. I like to get lost if im enjoying the game. I got lost a few times in 1 but it was a lot of fun so i didn't mind.
Shes a cutie by the way
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Quick question, heard someone was making a fan translation of IV on the DS using the pretty accurate NES translation, any word on this?
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>>340708380
Alright then.
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>>340708007

I felt that it didn't really help in the end game even in the original PS2 version. It mostly just helps for hurting bosses if you only go whips. But I tend to focus on using magic and swords on bosses, whips on mobs.
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>>340699935
It's not about kissing ass, it's about treating a person who has done you literally nothing as a human fucking being.

What he did was wrong, that it's an understandable wrong doesn't make it right.
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>>340705495
Wait FFX has stats on equipment? Wasn't it just abilities?
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I played this on 3DS. My roommate kept telling me it's the best one in the series. I did enjoy it quite a bit but I personally think IX is better.
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malware free PS2 bios download where? I remember getting adware trying to find a GBA bios
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>>340705604
Try reading what I fucking wrote, retard. I said it's not 100% perfect emulation. If you have to constantly fix shit, it's not perfect emulation.
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>>340709134
But you posted IX?

Also everyone knows IV is the best.
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>>340709134
erinn a cute
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>>340708914

Not that guy. But pretty sure it also had a basic damage stat on weapons and defense stat on gear. Like one of the celestial weapons adds 130 ATK or something, along with all the crazy attributes which takes that 130 and multiplies it to do 14k damage, etc.
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>>340687561
literally just
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>>340709364
DQ4 was alright.
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>>340709425

No she isn't.

I want to know more about the new girl in DQXI
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>>340709530
Wrong, you're probably a VIIIfag as well.
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>>340709134
If that girl had orange gloves on, it might be love
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Has anyone read the manga? Is it any good?
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>>340709737
Jokes on you I didn't start with 8.

It's 5 or 3 overall that liked most.
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>>340709530
Its more then alright.
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>>340691936
>Kalderasha's voice
>Cheesy or bad

People who genuinely think like this have never left their front door. I have a customer that regularly comes in that has an accent JUST as thick. She's super friendly though, even if I wish she would stop breaking her damn computer.
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>>340709965
I will say. I enjoyed the chapters thing it had going for it.
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>>340709737

>fuck you for not liking my favorite game
>you must like VIII you casual!
Leave this thread. Go argue in a FF thread.
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>>340686975
I fap gallons to her but I havent actually play the game.
Emu is busted. Mobile is homo. My only option is 3ds it seems.

Any suggestions?
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>>340709994

Its not the accent that is bad. Its their tone and acting. They're hamming it up on purpose. Most likely because the dub director told them to. Its common in dubbed games and anime. The actor might be quite good, but is told to ham it up. Like Rikku in FFX, who is a well known voice actor for western animation. But sounds noticably forced and cheesy as Rikku in FFX.
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>>340709948
Yeah well you have good taste, III is my second favorite and V is great but it has some sections I don't like so it goes a bit lower on my list then most others would probably put it.
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>>340710279

You can either get a used PS2 and the game for $20-$30, get a new computer or wait for the 3DS version.
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>>340710083
>>340709965
>>340709364
Favorite game of all time. Favorite structure to any game of all time. Favorite final boss of all time. I have probably played through it completely around eight times since I was 8. +1 if I count the piss-easy DS remake.
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>>340710279
Just wait for the 3DS version to be released then.
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>>340690767

Never heard Dhoulmagus' English voice, but I love his Japanese voice, especially that laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLR6oaVu20M
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>>340709364
I meant my roommate kept telling me VIII is the best. My bad. Ive played I,II,V,VI,VII,VIII & IX. V & IX are my favourites but IX edges out V by just a bit. I loved dressing up my team.
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>>340710279

Can you read Nip? Play the 3DS version. If you can't, wait until it comes out unless you really, really want to play it now.
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>>340710134
Nah I'm mostly joking, VIII is a good introductory DQ but it makes me sad how much I hear people who have only played VIII and/or V. Any DQ fan is cool in my book.
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>>340710346
It's fine anon. Your taste is good too.

>>340710418
That's a lot of completions anon. But it's nice you liked it that much.
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Picked this up yesterday. Dragon Quest 30th anniversary art book.
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>>340689128

you just went too far mate. you never shit on Suikoden 2 ever. fight me irl
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>>340710575

>Not III or IV

Should play those too. Hell, play II as well since they're the only ones missing aside from X.
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>>340710418
I take it you like the NES version best then.
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>>340710575
Wow, you missed two great ones.

III might not hold up for you as well at first, job systems were revolutionary at the time, but the twist near the end is worth it.
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>>340710418
Have to ask, do you know moon? IV is my favorite as well but being able to only speak burger sucks as every version I could play is flawed in some way. I have to choose between NES graphics and no post game or the shitty translation. What version do you typically play?
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>>340704846
What Jessica part do you mean?
I recently emulated the game and the only problem was Empyreas shadow
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>>340710397
>>340710457
>>340710592
Later in 2016 eh? Hope it doesnt look like complete shit. The screenshots dont look too hot, but 3ds games tend to look better on actual stuff.
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>>340711079

Yeah, it looks better when actually playing it. Can't match the PS2 version, but still. all the changes make it worth it.

Not sure if it'll actually be out in 2016. I think that's what they said months ago, but who knows.
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>>340711079
That is what they said but we still don't even have a release date or 7 at the moment and that was scheduled or summer, so who knows whats going on.
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>>340710296
No, not at all. Like I said, talks EXACTLY like Kalderasha, minus being a female. Rikku does sound cartoony, and I'll agree with you there, but calling anyone other than Dhoulmagus and MAYBE Trodain "hammy" is just outright naivety.
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>>340710726
>>340710858
Yeah I want to get around to III & IV soon. I'm living in Japan now and wanted to play X but I don't like MMOs and not keen on paying for a monthly subscription. Plus I'm not gonna be able to play it when I move back home without setting up a VPN.
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>>340711004
I might be wrong about Jessica's shadow. I've read too much fanfiction about Evil Jessica. I know Empyrea was right, though.
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>>340711345
>>340711381
Wait,7 isnt out yet? Damn, I was planning to play that first to wait for 8. Already done 5, 6 i heard remove party chat?
Finished 9, cant say weakest in term of story for me. Cant say i remember anything about that.
Any other game worth playing?

Will get dqmusou this summer sale.
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>>340698009
WHAT
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>>340710947
Wuh? NES version is full english, and there was a US release of the DS version about 9 years ago or so.

>>340710747
I prefer the old localization. The addition of "regional accents" was heavy handed. Encounters seem to happen FAR less frequently in DS version (perhaps a result of not being constrained to a grid, and being able to traverse areas quicker), and the ability to control your entire party during Chapter 5 (although you do have the option to set them to AI) makes it significantly easier.

I also think the 6th Chapter added nothing, and it was better to leave Saro as a tragic villain.
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>>340712430
YOU CAN MARRY JESSICA!
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>>340712331
Nothing yet. Something tells me we'll be lucky to get 7 before the end off the year at this point.
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>>340712331

Party chat was removed in the English DS version of IV. I haven't heard about them removing the party chat in the English 3DS version of VII.
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>Considering getting the Android version
>Don't know if it's some watered down version or not
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>>340712537
BULLSHIT
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>>340712698
http://simg4.gelbooru.com//images/fd/b7/fdb70fee445c7e1d1df9caf15c7611e6.webm
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>>340689128
don't forget 108 characters, most of which are complete garbage. funny how CC gets so much flack for only 40, most of which are fairly well done, yet this does it so much worse.
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>>340712504
I was asking what version you preffer between the NES and DS version. Both have flaws and many argue which version is the better English release.
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>>340712847
>>340712537
It's cool you have the option to marry her, but it's still fucking stupid. Forced af pairing.
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>>340710709

I'd buy that for a hundred dollar.
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>>340711392

>but calling anyone other than Dhoulmagus and MAYBE Trodain "hammy" is just outright naivety.
And Medea. And Prince Charlmes. And most of the NPCs. And all the bosses.
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>>340713035
>forced as fuck
Nigga what? You didn't have a choice of bride in the original. Media was forced not Jessica. Bianca is forced. Not Jessica.
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>>340713035
I just considered a funny end. Hell maybe even Horii wanted it in the PS2 version but didn't have time to put it in.
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>>340712847
>403 Forbidden

Fuck.
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>>340713283
try this
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2843030
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>>340712987
Well, having grown up with 1 through 4 on NES probably sways me toward that. I think what they added in the DS release doesn't add anything meaningful to the game itself. Most of the additions were innocuous, but the 6th chapter does retcon the ending in a lame "everybody gets a happy ending" way.

Although I suppose Small Medal hunting might be considered a bit tedious today, and that was simplified in the DS version (a little too simple?).
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>>340686046
>every 5 minutes
He says it 5 times or less in the entire game.
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>>340713149
I'll give you Charmles, but Medea was fine and so were most of the NPCs.

The bosses were a little thick, but then again, they're talking monsters. There's no real reason for them to sound like Steve Blum.
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>>340713154
>You didn't have a choice of bride in the original.
It doesn't fucking matter? It's part of the story?

Medea:
>it was Medea who had made the recommendation to her father to allow him (Hero) to join the ranks of the palace guardsmen so that they could spend more time together.
>They liked each other as kids
>Medea appears to the hero in his dreams, most likely because of the effect of the Mystical Spring Water. This only occurs when both are asleep at the same time
>They still have a strong connection. She appreciates the time he takes to lift the curse that turns her human
>During Medea's wedding she asks Hero to spend time with her
>There's still attraction and he uses his lineage to tell Charmles to fuck off
>Marries his schoolboy sweetheart

When I say it's a forced pairing I mean it's literally just fan service because you pathetic fucking betas want to titfuck some whore you spent 60 hours traveling with.
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>>340714029
thats not how it works anon

Squall and Rinoa is a forced pairing.
Every fan like SquallxQuistis more but that's not the actual pairing.

Literally same shit here.
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>>340713448
I agree that from a story perspective I don't like chapter 6 but the new content itself wasn't bad. Really I guess it comes down to opinion, wish IV DS got a fan translation.
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>>340714186
>thats not how it works anon
Please, shut the fuck up. What interest has Jessica shown toward the Hero? What affection has Hero showed toward Jessica?

>Thanks for letting my dead brother rest in peace
>Oh and I guess saving the world, too
>Let's fuck

This can be done with literally any other character you helped.

It's fan service.
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>>340688249
Because they want sales.
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>>340714443
Jessica x Hero isn't a forced pairing because it's not forced by the game dipshit. Nobody can for a fan pairing on you.
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I've been playing through the series slowly. Started with 1+2 on GBC, then 3 on GBC. Now I'm up to 4 on DS. What sort of differences am I to expect?
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>>340714540
*force a fan pairing

Sure autists can try but that's something else.
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>>340714540
Why don't you read what I originally wrote, retard. I started this saying it's cool that they gave you the option to marry Jessica, but it's a stupid fucking forced fan service pairing. IT'S OPTIONAL, BUT IT'S STUPID.
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>>340714598
Not much.

Accents
An extra chapter
The ability to actually control your party members.
I would say party chat. But that's not in the localized version of DQ4 DS.

Otherwise pretty much the same besides better looking I guess.
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>>340714682
>IT'S OPTIONAL
>but it's forced

It's one of the most popular fan pairings in the game, nobody is forcing anything. That's just the dev's being smart with their fanservice.

Now if Red was suddenly a marriage option, that would be forced, because nobody does that expect the hypothetical dev.
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>>340713784

>There's no real reason for them to sound like Steve Blum.
You seem to be mixing up tone and acting. I don't want to sound pompous, but it seems like people in the west will accept any level of bad acting as long as the voice 'sounds pleasant'. Steve Blum (and Hayter) is a perfect example of this. He can literally be choking on his own mucus and crying like a baby, and people will still love him.
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>>340714186

Dumbest post in this thread?
Dumbest post in this thread.
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>>340715046
Stay mad.

If Jessica x hero is forced, than who's forcing it?
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>>340690320
I don't remember an important enemy like that.
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>>340715260

I never said anything about it being forced. And I wasn't the person you were arguing with. But your examples were just even more dumb.

Never compare something from DQ to FF. Then you had to go and claim 'everyone' prefers Squall and Quistis. When there's even less basis for this than Jessica and the Hero. Quistis likes Squall, but Squall clearly doesn't like her and even comes out and says she's a bad teacher. While Jessica makes passing comments that she finds the hero no be nice and looks good, but never shows any intention of wanting to be with him. They're not comparable at all.
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>play DQH
>enjoy it even if it's lacking as a musou
>hear you can fight zoma and some other classic bosses in postgame
>beat story
>try a few of the new maps
>everything is an HP sponge that takes forever to kill

I want to fight Zoma, but not that badly. They were doing so well until then to with keeping big targets from getting too boring to kill

>>340685723
Because it's Dragon Quest
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>>340690320

What you describe is some Final Fantasy II level bug. I don't see how there could be anything like that in DQVIII. Just because of how the game is structured. Killing Captain Crow before you talk to an NPC and learn who he is won't break the game.
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>>340715825
>>everything is an HP sponge that takes forever to kill
Yangus + Jessica
Oomph + Helm Splitter followed by Hatchet Man spam forever
Solves 99.9% of problems very quickly
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>>340715753
I mean fan pairing wise. Squall and Rinoa is canon yet also seen a forced due to the story. Squall and Quistis on the otherhand isn't canon but quite popular.

Hero x Medea and Hero x Jessica is more or less the same example with different characters.
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>>340715973
I was not talking about 8 anon, the only person with Oomph in heroes is Nera and Yangus is not a damage dealer in Heroes as much as a tank.
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>>340716803
I'm talking about Heroes as well.

>and Yangus is not a damage
You're playing him wrong
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>>340716803
is Nera actually good in Heroes? Now that I've actually played V I kinda want to try her out
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>>340716918
Well whenever I used him he wasn't putting out much. Also I don't have room for Nera just for oomph, my characters tend to keep themselves attack buffed pretty well from crits.

>>340716964
She's interesting, I didn't try her in postgame but she has a spelll that acts as a large vacuum over a wide area that lasts until she's out of MP. Then her strong attacks are spawning bubbles that do damage on touch and pop for bigger damage after so long. Those are also drawn into the vacuum. Then she can cast the bang series to force them all to explode at once if you want, and bang does ok damage. So she's good til her MP runs out at least. Though completely inferior to Bianca who shits out damage holding R1 and tapping triangle.
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>>340717268
Helm Splitter lowers enemy defense
You can charge Hatchet Man to do a fuckton of damage
Parallax also pretty strong
It's not rocket surgery
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>>340717403
>You can charge Hatchet Man to do a fuckton of damage

How much are you talking? The only other charge skill I really used besides magic were alena's strong hits but even if they crit with clones they didn't seem to do a whole lot
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>>340717567
I've seen over four digits
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>>340717805
just a single hit though? rain of pain can do 700 on a single hit with a crit
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>>340717894
Thousands of damage per hit on a move that only takes like two seconds to charge to max yeah
Plus Helm Splitter keeping enemy defense lowered constantly so everyone else is doing more damage
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>>340686849
>free roaming open world

You may physically walk around on the landscape, but it railroads you pretty fucking hard on where you have to go
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>>340717954
Rain of pain is also doing thousands if more than one hit crits. My AI usually stands around like retards. Especially Jessica
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>>340718184
They fight just fine for me. Hatchet Man by far outdamages anything else I've seen in the game on single targets, give it a try before you knock it.
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>>340718303
I already uninstalled it so maybe later. I wish Maya was good, she's pretty fun but her attack only ever improved enough to stay the same from when she joined til the end of the game and then went to total piss in postgame. Poor girl
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>>340718152
Do you think people will acknowledge that fact? All Overworld games are linear as fuck but people will still insist how it's "open world". You can't even traverse to some places without getting ship / Empyria first.

I think DQIX was far better at it anyhow because item respawns and shit. Also Grotto (which were annoying to find thanks to being on handheld)
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>>340718619
>All Overworld games are linear as fuck but people will still insist how it's "open world"

Say what you want about how shitty Skyrim is, but it genuinely is open-world.
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>>340715825
They're fucking ez. Literally git gud meme.

Zoma requires you to stack anti-freeze equipment otherwise you're in for a living hell. But otherwise it's a good boss fight.
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>>340718782
Yeah, it is an open-world game. Ni no Kuni, Dragon Quest, FFIX and older are overworld games where you'll just end up going to the next available place before progressing to the next.
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>>340718152

The game tells you where to go to progress the main story. Outside of that, there's tons of stuff to find on your own.

Making a good open world game is about balancing set destinations and optional destinations. As well as making the player feel like they found something themselves, even if the game used a road and a canyon to 'guide' the person there. It may seem like a contradiction, but the best open world games have set locations and paths.

>>340718619

>I think DQIX was far better at it anyhow because item respawns and shit.
DQIX is even more linear than you're making DQVIII seem. DQVIII had one large seamless overworld while DQIX split the overworld up into zones. And while its not really related, I found the respawning items thing to be horrible. Because they just made you collect far too many items for the alchemy pot. Instead of just using one of each ingredient, you had to find 99 spider webs, 20 lizard tails and 50 strong medicines. It was horrible. I';d rather have less items that were balanced than endless respawning items that take a week to collect.
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What does puff-puff feel like?
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>>340719678
>Outside of that, there's tons of stuff to find on your own.
Not any more than any other overworld game.

>Making a good open world game is about balancing set destinations and optional destinations.
Making a good open world game would include actual open world. You literally can't access most of the places before you progress the story enough in DQ or any other overworld game. It just creates a false sense of non-linearity.

>DQVIII had one large seamless overworld while DQIX split the overworld up into zones.
Uh, what are you talking about? DQVIII was split just as much as DQIX was. Both required story related things to happen before you could access more places.
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>>340719860

Like being smothered by two huge warm mochi.
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>>340719923

>Not any more than any other overworld game.
THere is more to find in a game like RDR or Dragon Quest VIII than say Ocarina of Time or Final Fantasy XII. And I don't even consider FFXII to be an open world game since its split into zones. But since so many other people do, and you're generalizing the term so much, I might as well name it.

>Making a good open world game would include actual open world. You literally can't access most of the places before you progress the story enough in DQ or any other overworld game. It just creates a false sense of non-linearity.
Are you seriously claiming a game can't be open world if it has any kind of barrier? Because that would discount 99% of open world games. Even fucking Skyrim has some areas blocked off by invisible walls or NPCs until you complete a specific story event. And you can be sure FFXV and Zelda U are going to do it even worse, yet they will be called 'open world'.

>Uh, what are you talking about? DQVIII was split just as much as DQIX was.
Are you being stupid on purpose?
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>>340719860
Like putting your head outside two different car windows while going 100 mph
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>>340719860
Like cheating
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>>340720268
>RDR or DQVIII
Both of those are split "into zones" that you can't access before story lets you. Not to mention both of them fuckall to find, especially RDR (I'm assuming Redemption, not Revolver here)

>than say Ocarina of Time or Final Fantasy XII.
Why are you trying to fucking pull Zelda into this? You might as well just say "Yeah but it has more to find than Ace Attorney has!!!" - You're not even comparing remotely similar games here.

And come the fuck on, FFXII (especially IZJSE) has far more to find than VIII despite not being an overworld or open world game. (Hunts alone take fucking forever).

>Are you seriously claiming a game can't be open world if it has any kind of barrier?
Yes, because it literally prevents you from going to places before the game actually lets you. At least in R* games it's split into larger areas, in games like DQVIII you find yourself having access to 1 or 2 place at a time and once you complete them then you can progress and access more.

Non-linearity is another issue.

>Are you being stupid on purpose?
Are you being stupid on purpose trying to compare fucking Zelda and DQVIII?
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>>340720762
>>340720268
Also, FFXII, Tales and what have you are just as open world as Overworld games are. They just lack the overworld map, other than that the progress is the fucking same.
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>>340720762
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>340720762

>Both of those are split "into zones"
No they're not. A zone is a break in the overworld. RDR and DQVIII, you can cross the entire overworld without going through a town or new area.

The fact that you think having to get on a boat is a 'zone is just, what the hell? I can't even say its stupid. Its beyond stupid. And RDR even has a seamless transition when walking into towns. The towns are essentially part of the overworld.

>Why are you trying to fucking pull Zelda into this? You might as well just say "Yeah but it has more to find than Ace Attorney has!!!" - You're not even comparing remotely similar games here.
Zelda fucking pioneered freeroaming overworlds. You know what, I'm done. Not even going to respond to this stupidity. Fuck off.
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>>340721079
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>340721297

>its not 4K
PC are you even trying?
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>Made this in some draw thread
>Nobody had any idea what game it was :(
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>>340721672
>not surprised nobody knows about some random chinese vidya
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>>340721079
RDR is split into 'zones' before you progress far enough in the story.

DQVIII has overworld but you're literally stuck in specific zones until, again, you progress far enough in the story.

>Zelda fucking pioneered freeroaming overworlds.
>freeroaming
Yeah, the kind of """"freeroaming"""" where you get non-stop stuck until you get the new item from the next dungeon so you can progress to elsewhere.

> Fuck off.
Why are you so mad?
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>>340721846
>4chan
>japanese board
>very popular japanese game
>nobody knows it

It makes no sense
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>>340719860
Like bags of Slime.
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>>340686526
But it's free on the 3DS too
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>>340722130
>popluar
>implying 4chan isn't full of alpha reddit normies who are swimming in pussy instead of games
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>>340721672
It looks so generic, and that drawing also looks like shit.
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>>340693308
By torrent or there are a couple of websites, emuworld or something like that. Either way just write in Google "game name iso" and open the first couple there should be something there
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>all these "DQ8 is boring" posts

You forgot something plebs
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I haven't played any DQ, but I've heard V and VIII are among the best games in the series. Which one should I play first?

Actually, I know nothing about V other than the notion of it being good. How does it compare to VIII or other games in the series?
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>>340712695

Android version is excellent, only it lacks voice acting and the orchestral soundtrack, other than that....i'd say it's actually the best version of the game available.
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>>340700241

you're weird
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>>340703127

clocked in at 99:09, this game was my entire sophomore year of highschool no-life virginity intact spring break and i fucking loved every minute
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>>340695130
You can finish the game just fine even if you're a shitter and upgrade the abilities for all weapons equally. It's really very easy. The only troublesome boss was maybe Dhoulmagus.
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Oh this thread is still here, how odd
>>340727529
>klk
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