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It's going to flop isn't it
>>340634803
>xbox one exclusive
yea
>>340634803
If its not on steam then yes it will.
>>340634860
It will also be on pc i think
Let's hope it won't be a windows 10 exclusive
>>340634860
I thought it's getting a pc release as well.
Probably. It doesn't have anything going for it aside from the admittedly great art direction.
Seems like one of those games you'll play once because it looks neat, and then never touch again.
>>340634803
>chromatic aberration
>whole game is just boss fights
yes
>>340635053
You'll be able to turn that off.
>>340634803
Is it going to be windows store exclusive? Or will it be on steam?
>>340635053
old projectors are notorious for chromatic aberration
and since it's going for an old cartoon style it's actually valid for once you colossal autist
>>340635136
WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0bpSyeCuQ
>>340635136
H-he doesn't know...
>>340634803
Probably but I couldn't care less. I'm going to buy it, it looks cool as shit.
>>340635150
It's on their website www.cupheadgame.com
>available 2016 on xbox one and steam
>tfw peacock won't have a cameo in this
>>340634963
>>340634941
It's coming to PC, yes. It won't be windows store exclusive, it'll be on steam too.
I don't know if it's exclusive to 10 though.
>>340635246
>bog-standard platformer with 8-way shooting
Fuck's sake. I can put those mechanics together in GameMaker in half a day.
This game is all grafics. Gameplay is basic as fuck.
>>340635246
looks awesome, but fuck same enemies over and over, no challenge
To all the people who thought it was going to be a boss rush: did they ever say it at any point? Because all I've seen is people who thought it was going to be one just by the trailer, and people who quoted the first group as a "source".
Probably, since it's mostly just style over substance. But i'm still gonna get it, since it looks awesome.
who's the most phenomenal extra-ordinary fellow?
>>340635246
>whole game is just platforming and boss fights
>>340634803
>Windows 10 exclusive
yup, it's gonna flop hard
is this local co op?
I hope not.
>>340635498
A shame. Peacock would be the best secret boss.
Ori didn't flop, so I don't see why this will.
>>340635695
https://twitter.com/studiomdhr/status/630452766582960128
>yup
>>340635246
looks like shit desu
>>340635136
>it's ok when Shadow of the Colossus does it!!!
Fuck off
>>340634803
>Platformer
It's going to be a good game, but it's not gonna sell well
>>340634803
Why is it taking so damn long?
Generic indie platformer #8874 can't be that complicated, can it?
>>340635971
They added levels because people said they did line like it being just bosses
>>340635783
>Secret boss
>Phase one is her riding around in her car taking potshots at you
>Phase two has her fighting on foot, throwing George and Lenny around, teleporting around the stage and doing Argus Agony
It could've been so cool.
>>340635859
Oh cool I didn't know this, now I def buy it
>>340635971
Because it's not pixel """"art""""
The hype for this game has been excessive considering after all it's just a 2D sidescroller/platformer with a quirky art style.
I foresee this going the way of Unravel.
Rubberhose is such a cool underutilized style. Probably because making everything move all the time takes a lot of effort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzWGkgFcTU
>>340634803
>chromatic aberration: the game
Just fucking fuck my fucking visuals up senpai
>>340635971
The entire game is made with hand drawn cells. It takes a while, just ask skullgirls.
>>340636048
>quirky art style
It's Fucking hand drawn you Fucking pleb
>>340634803
It could flop, but I'm going to judge the game based on the gameplay, not sales. The visuals have my balls, and I like the Commander Keen style level select. It could be a good game, but I'll have to wait the timed exclusivity to go away.
>>340636058
You're the umpteenth person to bring this up so you get to be the umpteenth person to be told that there's a fucking toggle for the aberration you cockguzzling fagrider.
Feels weird having megaman movement, shooting lasers out of your finger to kill shit, but having an old timey cartoon look. Doesn't seem like stuff Mickey Mouse would do.
>still can't turn off the chromatic aberration
sry but I can't look at the game for more than 10 seconds without my eyes straining
>>340635594
YOU! SINBAD THE SAILOR!
>>340636043
Pixel art probably takes longer.
They need to sketch, draw then pixelize it
they only need to sketch and draw it here
What is it with this game that sends people in a crazy assumption rampage?
First people said it had been cancelled, then that it was just a boss rush, then that it was exclusive to the XBone, then to the Windows store, and now to Windows 10.
Microsoft wins E3 if after the conference they say this game is available.
>>340635246
Is the actual ingame sounds?
The music is good but the sound effects are fucking garbage man.
>>340636273
>fucking Major Nelson in the thread trying to shill this meme game
Do you honestly think chromatic aberration will be an optional thing in this game? They were clearly going for the old-timey projector feel.
I actually guarantee they will make it permanent because of the aesthetic
>>340636414
It's shills who try to create discussion.
>>340636324
Try messaging the devs about it. they might be based and have it be an option for more visual sensitive people.
>>340636512
It got you too.
>>340636414
The game looks cool and i'm scared that it either won't sell well or the gameplay will be shit.
PS4 when?
>>340636475
They literally couldn't release it in a better way. But it that probably won't happen.
>>340636682
Never because it's a videogame and Sony hasn't funded one of those since the PS1 died.
>>340636607
>the gameplay will be shit.
we already know that but retards will buy it only because of the art, like Ori
>>340636661
Thank they started from the bottom and now they're at the top
It has absolutely no sticking power, like all indie games.
>>340634803
It's a matter of when.
>>340635532
If I may play doubles advocate here, there are a lot of platformers with "standard"/uninteresting mechanics that shine because of exceptional level and enemy design
It's just boss rush so beyond it's artstyle its not that interesting. It can't flop though because it's not a straight exclusive
>>340636959
Jesus christ read the fucking thread retard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0bpSyeCuQ
>>340636362
>implying they don't go straight to pixel
That's how the grand majority of pixel games are made
And for cuphead they used actual hand drawn cels
>>340635532
>>bog-standard platformer with 8-way shooting
So was Gunstar Heroes and that is still one of the funnest platformers to date.
>>340635662
>whole game is a whole game
Yeah I'll just wait for the definitive edition on PS4, cheers.
>>340634803
The chromatic aberration in it makes me nauseated.
>>340636936
>shine because of exceptional level and enemy design
yeah, this isn't one of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0bpSyeCuQ
>>340637049
>mobile endless runner garbage
>>340634803
They're gonna need a tall drink after this, that's for sure.
>it's going to flop
I swear, /v/, I fucking swear.
This sales shit needs to go.
>>340637252
>That
>Endless runner
I know it's tough using your brain when you're a weeb, but at least make an attempt.
>>340636510
>Do you honestly think chromatic aberration will be an optional thing in this game
Yes. Case in point: They built entire fucking levels for this game because people wouldn't stop crying about platforming segments. Chromatic aberration is the second biggest complaint, so it stands to reason they're gonna address it too.
You shitbird.
>>340637252
have you never seen an actual endless runner?
>>340637252
What kind of shit experience do you have to call that an endless runner? Uninspired, maybe, but come on.
>Imma judge the game based on one level: the thread
Everyone crying about chromatic aberration needs to be culled so they don't pass on their pussy ass weak eye genetics to the next generation.
Oh wait this is /v/ never mind the next generation should be ok
>>340637554
>I'm gonna judge the game off the one level they showed us with the intention of impressing us.
That's perfectly valid. You wouldn't go see a movie after watching a terrible trailer because "maybe they only showed us the shitty parts and the rest is good.".
They've nailed the atmosphere of 1930s cartoons so well I keep expecting to see some era-appropriate racism.
>>340637749
It doesn't bode well if this is all they have to offer for their platforming announcement.
Why the fuck are all you goddamn babies whining about chromatic aberration? I thought the whole damn point of the look is to recreate all this old animation but apparently it's too authentic for your delicate baby eyes.
I predict it will flop, but that it will be great and have a small, dedicated fanbase
it will be ran at AGDQ every year and over time, and the average person will be aware of it but not play it
when the sequel comes out, it will blow up like dark souls did, available on more platforms, and everyone will call fans of the original xbox fanboys who can't accept the original was shit
>>340637982
they learned a new word, so now they spout it constantly to make themselves feel smart
>>340637158
Gunstar Heroes has weapon combinations, which is a game mechanic.
>>340637765
James Rolfe go back to bed
Oh look it's another "everything is going to flop xD meme" thread
>>340637765
>"maybe they only showed us the shitty parts and the rest is good.".
I actually laughed. This is what people really do. And when I say I'm not interested in it because of a two minute trailer they say I'm sexist or racist.
>>340638112
Fuckin' THIS!
Seriously, you people aren't gonna play the game anyway, why trying to diss out something important to the game's style just to sound smart?
You want to be smart and cool? Ignore the things you don't like and leave them be!
>>340638224
That doesn't really change the core of the gameplay unless you just combined Homing + Laser and held down the shoot button.
>>340634803
Who cares? It looks good and I'm gonna play it.
>>340634803
It's been in dev so long no one gives a shit anymore.
>>340638335
James pls
>>340638492
>Who cares?
I don't know, maybe the people who made the game?
>>340637252
it isnt good, but it's not an endless runner either.
>>340635053
>buzzwords
>>340635246
>HP counter
This makes me more interested in the game. suggests that bosses aren't 1hko any more and that you can upgrade.
>>340638423
It's not important to the style though. Nobody actually associates it with old projectors, if they did you wouldn't have to go around telling people that it's accurate. Nobody would have noticed if it was never implemented.
Even if it is accurate it's a bad idea to include it because it's ugly as shit. Making art is about deciding what's best not doggedly sticking to what something "should" be like.
>>340635053
It actually fits with art style of the game you dolt.
>>340635579
So are the Persona games and Jet Set Radio games. Style can carry a game if it's stylish enough.
>>340639127
Just because you go around projecting doesn't mean what you say is true.
>>340634803
>It's going to flop isn't it
Undoubtedly, but I'm still glad it's being made.
The aberration in this game is fucking with my eyes
>>340638332
I think you're just fucking sick of all the "Overwatch is gonna die just watch xD xD xD" shit.So am I, all the fucking lolbabbies and dotadrones ruining everything.
Reminder that Shadow Complex was also an Xbox exclusive.
>>340639237
Jet Set Radio Future flopped hard.
>5 years to make a 5 hour platformer
lel
>>340639453
Apparently I'm an expert on projectors so yes it does
check mate nerd
It's not going to flop.
Xbox, Nintendo and sometimes even PC games sell better than ps4 movies.
>Ps4s best selling game ever is a mere 2 mil
Pathetic
>>340635246
Man, those levels have no reason nor rhyme to them. They just decided to put some shit together, also the enemies feel out of place.
Nortorious green munchers, blue pots, yellow yoshi coins and red mushrooms. What were they thinking?
Anyone feel me?
>>340636153
And? It could be dick drawn for all I care, it's still the only reason it's got any attention at all.
I honestly have no idea what the gameplay is like, I only have a vague interest in this game for the old cartoon style it has.
>>340639946
>>340635246
Meant to add, it looks like Mario Maker trash
Xbox games haven't floped. The only one is quantum break.
The rest are subject to click bait articles by kotaku which nitpick and pull numbers out of their ass.
> Game sold 0 copies at 4 am in Ethiopia ! LE FLOP XD
no one posted fish waifu boss?
i mean, she even has sexy pics already!
>>340634803
stupid craphead poster
>>340635246
Hot Damn. Looks like even if mn9 bombs I'm still getting a fantastic run and gun platformer this year. Also lol at everyone saying that looks easy, the person playing that clearly knew all the patterns. That shit looked almost GnG tier at some places.
>that feel when you actually really like chromatic aberration
It should always be optional though.
>>340639492
On the Xbox console that actually sold units, yes. Are you stupid?
>>340635901
He wasn't complaining you fucking idiot.
Game will definitely be good for a niche as long as the boss fights and platforming stages have actual difficulty to them. It will fail financially as it won't make enough on the Xbone platform and needs a reliance on Steam sales and even Humble Bundle shit to break even from the fees and mortgage the dev team used to make the game,
>>340640642
My fucking hombrero.
>>340634803
>Platformer
Who the fuck still plays that shit
>>340641258
The game has been in development since 2010, when everyone and their mother made platformers
>>340636682
Pretty sure you can play this on any laptop.
>>340640642
>>340641168
I have terrible eyesight and it only makes things worse for me and gives me an awful headache. I can't do it.
>>340634803
probably because people don't like good games nowadays
>>340637252
Seems like a huge problem for small teams making modern platformers is that we've already had the age of God-tier platformers a long time ago, so its hard to do anything of note that can be compared to any of countless legendary platformers that came before it. A pure platformer just seems hard to get right.
>>340637252
>endless runner
Do you know what that even is?
>>340635246
>these boring ass platformer mechanics
I wish it played more like yoshi's island in terms of gimmicks and shit you can do
>>340642483
>Do you know what that even is?
Boring, uninspired level design that looks like it was ripped from an endless runner. How you and several other anons were not able to understand what he meant by that is astonishing, even if he could have worded that better.
>>340639127
/v/ is the only place that I've ever seen it bitched about. Mostly because apparently Bloodborne has it, so it must be bitched about every time it's in something to make those complaints seem more valid.
>>340642728
No, I mean, "endless runner". You don't seem to know what that is.
>>340642728
Its like you've never played one of these kinds of games before except maybe megaman 2.
>>340636048
Kill yourself you fucking newfag
Just put a bullet in your head you fucking faggot
>>340634803
I'll try it to see what the aesthetic gimmick, but that doesn't mean I'll buy it.
I'll only buy it if the gameplay is either extremely polished, or innovative. You can't sell a game on gimmicks to me.
>>340636129
>just ask skullgirls.
skullgirls is digital animation
this is done on paper hand-drawn and inked
the backgrounds are watercolored
the only thing that's done digitally here is the coloring of the characters/bosses themselves that's it
>>340634803
Chromatic Aberration: The Game
fuck that noise...
>>340642979
>Point out that the level design is terrible compared to other games in the genre, to the point where it looks like a procedurally generated mobile game.
>"Clearly you've never played other games in the genre".
???
>>340637049
>Dat music.
General platforming looks like a culsterfuck though. I guess it could be worse. Still looks fantastic.
>>340637252
Yes it actually is one of them
Kill yourself you tryhard hipster
>>340639057
How about reading a book before you call things buzzwords?
>>340639580
>>340639453
I've actually used some old projectors, and I've never seen chromatic aberration as severe as this. CA is found on shitty lenses usually at the edges of the image, not fucking everywhere. Next it should be out-of-focus to emulate the effect of incompetent projectionists.
>>340643276
Because you're wrong.
The level looks great
Has a very early 90s arcade feel to it
Haters can go suck a dick
>>340643369
>being retarded on purpose
You may as well just close the thread and start fresh in the next one, nobody is going to take you seriously.
>>340636661
No idea why the fuck anyone thought it was a good idea to add that. Cartoons used to have that shit because old technology. That doesn't mean it's good. That would be like saying a developer making an HD remake of a game needs to port over the bugs that existed in the original in order to be true to the original artist's vision.
>>340643560
Chromatic Aberration is just a /v/ buzzterm. It's literally something they had to look up to give them one more thing to bitch about.
Nobody on this board even knew what it was till like last year, when suddenly it was the devil.
>dumb niggers in this thread don't know the difference between an endless runner and platformer.
So by their logic rayman 2 is an endless runner?
>>340643651
I'm not the one who repeated himself and tried to pass it off as an argument. Try saying something other than "you don't understand what an endless runner is" when someone points out that your level design looks like one.
>>340639237
>Jet Set Radio
>Style over Substance
This is a meme
Jet Set Radio is a pretty well designed game(despite it's 2000 floaty controls being pretty dated nowadays)
JSRF on the other hand...maybe...that one is more of a casual collectathon compared to the original one of the Dreamcast
>>340636490
I think that the effects are the best
>>340635971
>Why is it taking so damn long?Generic indie platformer #8874 can't be that complicated, can it?
They are making all the graphics as if it was a 1920s cartoon. Hand drawn, hand painted cels and backgrounds. This takes an ENORMOUS time to do, even for Disney it takes years to get a movie's worth of animation, and they are tracing real peoples movement half the time.
>>340639553
No it didn't
It sold about the same as the original on the Dreamcast
JSR has always been a niche game with a cult following
>>340643732
It's all personal preference, anon. I like it much better with it than without it to be honest.
>>340643732
>That would be like saying a developer making an HD remake of a game needs to port over the bugs that existed in the original in order to be true to the original artist's vision.
If it is a bug that adds to the gameplay, then yeah, they should bring it over. Combos in Street Fighter 2 were caused by a bug, are you saying that they should fix that on the HD remake?
>>340634803
If you don't want it to flop and you want to play it, buy it
>>340635896
How about you say why shitposter?
>>340643732
I don't think bugs are part of a developers vision.
Retard.
>>340642509
>yoshi's island
intothetrashitgoes.jpg
literallybabys1stplatformer.gif
overrateddogshit.png
>>340643870
Except it bears no relation at all to endless runner games. Yet you keep saying it. Hence, you must not understand what it means.
>>340644204
That was his point, you idiot. I disagree with his point, but he is correct that neither bugs nor chromatic whateverthefuck were part of the developer's vision.
>>340643762
Sure maybe, but I'm not complaining about the game itself, the platforming sections look sort of generic, but the game overall looks fun. Chromatic aberration was made popular due to the CG photorealism guys who figured out if they split the reds or blues in their digital images it made them look more "photorealistic" as in real to a photo taken on a shitty disposable camera and not real to life. Since then it's been used and abused in digital art ranging from 3D CG to fucking digital paintings (where a lens isn't even inherent).
I don't give a fuck about what /v/ thinks for the past few years but as a person who works with cameras and knows how far people will go to limit chromatic aberration in film and photography I find it really unsightly and distracting.
I know /v/ anons like to shitpost about niggling things just so they can turn every game into a disaster, but this waters down legitimate criticisms as "oh, a shitposter."
>>340643898
I found Future to be the better game of the two. I found both to be style over substance. That doesn't mean I think they're bad at all, style, like I said, can carry a game. Sometimes is not important that what you're doing is super-complicated, "deep" gameplay. Style is really important game design.
>>340644371
But I clearly explained how it related to endless runner games, which is why I pointed you back to it when you kept repeating yourself.
>>340642728
If you're going to be autistic about it, let me rephrase myself without using the words "endless runner":
The level design looks like procedurally generated garbage.
You're the idiot who assumed I was talking about gameplay or something -- of course it's not an endless runner.
Gonna play this for sure once i get the xbone, whenever the hell that might be
I'm actually very excited for it, same with mn9. I enjoyed the drama around the latter and it baffled me how the developers kept fucking up, but it still looks like a fun as fuck game. I can't be the only one thinking like that?
>>340637765
They showed plenty of good challenging bosses tho, this is probably an early game level
>>340644703
No you didn't. You just said "it looks like an endless runner", then referred back to where you said it looks like an endless runner.
>>340644480
>the platforming sections look sort of generic
The platforming is not supposed to be the point of the levels
Have you ever played Gunstar Heroes?
This is a Run 'n Gun game not a Platformer
People keep expecting an Action Platformer like Megaman here but this is not what the game is supposed to be...the game is inspired by Gunstar Heroes,Contra 3,Alien Soldier etc. those kind of games which never really had interesting platforming in them and were just about shooting the living crap out of everything while avoiding to get fucked
Amazing art-style with shallow gameplay. Platforming was a huge mistake.
>>340634803
I don't think it will sell well at all if it's going for an Xbone exclusive. No exclusive on that system has ever done well
>>340644852
Oh, I'm sure. It will probably be a fun game if the between boss segments don't drag it down. I'm just saying it's fine the judge at least the platforming part of the game off the single level they showed us because trailers are meant to showcase the most impressive bits.
And "early game" in no way excuses "boring".
>>340634803
Is that Bluto from Popeye?
>>340644537
>I found Future to be the better game of the two.
That's because you're a pleb who prefers easy games
Jet Set Radio was designed very well you have no idea what you're talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSMJoPfOv0c
Just because you have no skill doesn't make it a "style over substance" game which it is not
The game's stages are very well designed and award skilled play
They gameplay is arcade-y in it's design in that you have to tag targets on a timer while the police is chasing you and the faster you can do it the better the rank and getting all the targets including the green ones can be very challenging
The characters also each feel different with some of them having less spray cans,some of them being heavier/lighter,some of them being weaker etc.
It's far from "style over substance" no matter what people might say
JSR is a well designed game albeit a bit dated one
>>340643449
If it is on steam, then the game is saved.
>>340644890
If you don't understand what a level in an endless runner platformer looks like, then why are you lecturing me on not knowing what an endless runner is? Anyone who's played an endless runner platformer would understand what the level design in one of those looks like, thus understanding what I meant when I compared the level design in this game to that.
Excuse me for assuming that you've played one before. You see, and endless runner platformer has generic mashes of platforms and enemy placements -- which is necessary because it's randomly generated nature. When I compare this game to an endless runner, I am saying that very little thought went into the design.
>>340635246
WAIT THERE ARE ACTUAL LEVELS?
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A BOSS RUSH GAME
>>340645936
A lot of people wanted levels so they added them in.
>>340644240
Jeff pls
I will probably end up being a really good game made with lots of love and care but the fact that it's exclusive to xbone (and seemingly PC too never heard of that before this thread) it's very likely to end up a commercial failure. Yeah.
>>340643732
>That would be like saying a developer making an HD remake of a game needs to port over the bugs that existed in the original in order to be true to the original artist's vision.
they did for ocarina of time 3D. They only removed the bugs that would make the game unbeatable. No one complained
>>340645936
The "levels" are only mini games for getting cash apparently.
>>340634803
Your dick is going to flop.
>>340646081
Honestly, I think it should have stayed as a boss rush because the best part of Run n´Gun games are the bosses.
>>340646497
>The "levels" are only mini games for getting cash apparently.
So it's like Alien Soldier, then? The levels are tiny and unimportant and there's a boss fight every other screen.
>>340634803
>2D artsy platformer
It'll be the Xbone's best game this year.
>>340646504
Agreed, but at least the game doesn't really lose anything for having levels.
>>340646504
>because the best part of Run n´Gun games are the bosses
the devs echo your statements
but they had to do it to appease the millenial babies
>>340646984
>artsy
no
>>340647373
Half the appeal is the artstyle, pleb.
>>340645524
You could do this same shit in Future though. I get that JSR came first so you feel the need to defend it, especially since it's a Dreamcast game, but I never said it bad, bro. Calm yourself. I just said I like JSRF better.
>>340644972
I did play Gunstar Heroes and Metal Slug(s). It's not just the platforming it's also the gunplay and enemy positioning, which really feels like an afterthought, and in fact probably is. Gunstar Heroes and Metal Slug are actually balanced around weapon types and weapon pickups in the level, and in the case of Gunstar Heroes weapon combination is an important part of the game. I'm not saying it looks abysmal, it just looks very generic.
>>340647285
That's fucking stupid. When did devs start considering listening to people in Twitter to be a good idea? I can't think of a time that it's improved a game at all.
Of course it's probably executive meddling rather than the studios themselves.
>>340634803
>Realized 3 quarters into development that Bosses are suppose to test skills you've learned in a level.
>Game has levels now.
>>340635246
Even the first Metal Slug and Contra games had more platforming and better enemy positioning than that.
This is shallow as fuck.
>>340647373
I don't think you understand what is meant by the word "artsy"
>>340643762
Ask me how i know you haven't been on /v/ for more than a year
>>340637158
>So was Gunstar Heroes and that is still one of the funnest platformers to date.
Nigga what?
Gunstar had 2 player types, several weapons, melee combat that had throws, punching, kicks, slides and wall jumps and tight ad fuck level design that brought it all together.
That game was anything but standard.
>>340634803
I really, REALLY hope it doesn't. I love platformers too much man. Do we have a release day yet?
>>340647969
Dude MS 1 was easy as balls except for the fucking gate which was only "hard" because it's one of the shittiest boss fights ever and yet it takes ages so you just lose patience.
>>340634803
>the only good run n gun game this year
>looks a lot more fun than Mighty Scam 9
>this thread
>complaints about the art style and gameplay
>and chromatic abberation, even if over half of this thread doesnt understand what it means
>oh wait it's summer
>>340642483
What kind of excuse is that? They have a ton of material to take notes from, even from their own genre and they deliver a pretty shallow one. They don't have to reinvent the wheel, just make it good. The level design and enemy placement doesn't really make use of the mobility you have and that's a crime.
>>340637243
I wish devs understood that it's not just a matter of taste.
Chromatic aberration is a literal eyesore for some people. It makes my eyes cross.
Every Cuphead thread
>lol xbone exclusive fuck this game
>hurr durr it's just a boss rush game
>chromatic aberration sucks, I bet you can't turn it off
>dude peacock should be in the game lmao!
>dumb cartoon hipster shit
>WHY ISN'T ON PS4!!??
>>340643732
Well, pause glitch is still in MM Legacy Collection and I don't think it bothers anyone. At this point its a feature. They even mapped a separate button for "MM1 Pause".
>>340648525
So you're saying a whole group of people who don't understand what chromatic aberration is just COINCIDENTALLY came to this thread to shitpost about it?
>>340648731
oh no someone is discussing a video game
kill yourself faget
>>340648934
every time chromatic aberration is mentioned, it carries the same weight as every buzzword /v/ picks up because they're one gigantic parrot that can't form opinions by themselves
>>340647489
that's the whole appeal
without the art style it's just another mediocre retro platformer
>>340649161
>shitposting
>discussion
wew
>>340635246
Looks better than Mighty Number 9
>>340648494
The game's difficulty isn't in question.
This level doesn't look difficult either. It's repetitive. After going a small distance, you've already experience what the entire level has to offer. It drags on for far too long and doesn't offer anything new even after the halfway point.
MS1 kept it interesting by changing up the backgrounds and layout. Start is pretty flat, you're introduced to enemies and weapon pick ups in a jungle environment. You get into an open field with a crashed plan where a mini boss fight with a helicopter happens. After that, you move on to a swamp area with new enemy types and a hell of a lot more platforming. You're introduced to the Metal Slug and given a big barricade to go nuts on. You then reach a waterfall area with tanks and finally come across the boss.
>>340647695
Except that JSRF had semi-automatic scripted rails which took no skill at all so gtfo of here
anyone know if there's a big, fat torrent floating around with 1930's cartoons?
>>340648934
Gee, it's like we don't do that with every other buzzterm, you cuck
>>340647703
It looks the same as Gunstar Heroes
You're practically memeing at this point
>>340648568
It's not an excuse, I didn't even say that Cuphead did it well. I'm just saying that everyone has already played the "all time greats", and that trying to make more is always going to get you compared to them.
It's like trying to get people who've played older RPGs excited about modern "RPGs" without a shred of the depth of choice.
>>340648128
"artsy" is a codeword for "pretentious"
that shit should be used on games like Journey or Ico or bullshit like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gua71Ia7rAU
Yeah I'm pretty hyped.
>>340649712
JSR grinding didn't take skill either, dude. I noticed no difference between the two in terms of grinding. Guess I'm just that skilled. It's not like grinding in an actual skating game in either JSR title.
>>340648254
The first level in Gunstar Heroes looked pretty similar to this one but longer
>>340648731
this
>>340649374
>without the art style it's just another mediocre retro platformer
no it isn't you jaded shithead
end yourself
>>340649915
I enjoy games like that. IDK why every single game that gets released needs to be exactly the fucking same. Anything that isn't designed to make the player feel like a super skilled expert gets shit on. Maybe I just want to play something that has great visual/audio direction.
For example, neither Dead Space or Nier were difficult or deep in terms of gameplay. Yet both had great things going on in the audio department.
>>340635246
looks like utter boring shit
>>340649616
Id put what's been shown of the game so far on the same level as ms1's start but more difficult.
The only question is if this is an early part of the game or not, and I think it probably is given the background and the fact that normally these gameplay trailers are from the start of the game.
Also the boss fights seem to be the main focus of this game and they all look great so far.
>chromatic aberration
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
>>340649616
Metal Slug is not a Boss Rush game
Cuphead is a Boss Rush game with some platforming levels inbetween
They're in the same genre but they're different games
Cuphead is more similar to Alien Soldier than Metal Slug
>>340649991
>JSR grinding didn't take skill either
yes it did
this is where I stop taking you seriously
bye
>>340636936
Did you do that on purpose?
>>340650231
Nobody is telling you to not enjoy them
Heck I enjoy Ico but it's a pretentious "muh video games can be art" game in the end
>>340636682
Never eber
>>340635246
kek I got the feeling this was all flash and no substance
>>340648631
I dislike it, but I think someone earlier said it could be turned off.
>>340649249
Which is a problem with /v/ and not a problem with criticizing chromatic aberration. It's misuse and overuse are well-known in various media disciplines. Just because shitposters spam it to death doesn't mean it's not shit.
>>340649797
You didn't fucking play Gunstar Heroes or just played the first level if you think that. Also doesn't address that there's a lot more going on in terms of weapons and movement options in Gunstar.
>>340634803
Of course. There's no market for these kinds of games right now.
>>340649249
What do you even want? This game has chromatic aberration. That's an indisputable fact. How the fuck are we supposed to discuss it if according to you we have to tiptoe around the phrase because you think it's a buzzword?
You think it's a buzzword because you've seen it a lot recently and apparently you can't fathom that it's because it's an actual recent trend. No according to you if you complain about one thing too much it becomes a buzzword and is therefore meaningless.
People dislike chromatic aberration because it's not just ugly, it's offensive to your eyes. Ugly games can be fine, plenty of fun games are ugly or have ugly areas. Chromatic aberration when used completely unsubtly can be outright painful to look at. It's not a meme to hate it when it's literally simulating a fucking error.
>>340636661
I see absolutely no difference between these two pictures. What should I be seeing?
>>340650001
There is no first level. It's a stage select.
The blue gem level, if that is what you're referring too, is loaded with a variety of enemy types and boss fights and a gimmick section. This barely has 3 enemy types.
>>340650714
>the first level
cuphead is also just the first level
which is what i'm saying you shithead
>>340650736
Compare the petal to the right of the face in each image. In the top one there's a lot of yellow bleeding off it into the sky. That effect is going on everywhere but it's most obvious there.
>>340650715
>There's no market for games right now only for "cinematic experiences"
ftfy
>>340650751
the green level is what i'm referring to
>3 enemies
I counted upto 6 including the chompers
>>340650723
It's simulating an error because it's literally simulating color projectors that showed 30's theater cartoons.
That's what majority of /v/ users don't get, which is why using chromatic aberration as a criticism for this game is fucking retarded. It's like if you wanted to make a horror game and wanted to simulate 70's slasher films then used film grain to enhance the experience, but retards like the ones in this thread complain about it because it's "offensive to your eyes".
It's a buzzword because anytime it's spotted shitposters cling on to it like it's some kind of legitimate criticism, overlooking the context of it's use in the first place just to get (You)'s.
Why are there so many underage faggots?
Go play your COD BITCHES
>>340635246
>6 years to make this
Oh boy.
>>340651549
I already explained why that excuse is dumb. >>340639127
It looks bad. You should not make your game look bad just to win accuracy points. The fact that you have to explain to people that it's for accuracy is bad. It is a bad decision.
>>340651549
The biggest point is that it can be turned off which these shitposters pretend to ignore
I will say tho this effect is making the game too blurry for my taste so I will turn that shit off whenever I play it
Emulating the chromatic aberration(or more accurately it's color fringing) is a very hard thing to do correctly and I think it looks too overpowered here
>>340650325
>>340650351
Not him, but all he said was
>[the platforming] is shallow as fuck.
And you immediately change the subject by saying "it's a boss rush game, lol". Did he imply otherwise? Does good gameplay in one area excuse bad gameplay in another?
>>340648731
/thread
>>340652012
The platforming is shit on Metal Slug too...namely that there's barely any in there...in fact the platforming in Cuphead looks more difficult because of the bottomless pits
>>340652223
It would be absolutely fantastic if someone read a reply chain before responding. It's doubly embarrassing if you're one of the people I quoted and not just someone popping in.
As >>340649616 already explained, difficulty has nothing to do with it - what platforming (including enemy placement) there is is better designed. A mishmash of platforms and enemies might be difficult, but it's not necessarily good design.
>>340651794
>Nobody actually associates it with old projectors
Yeah, just the posters WHO ACTUALLY DO.
>The fact that you have to explain to people that it's for accuracy is bad.
I don't give a shit if you or any other persons thinks it's bad, just the people who think it was thrown on for no fucking reason.
Most likely. It'll probably end up being $15-$20 which is too much IMO, so I'll wait for a sale. Also, gameplay wise and despite the Steamboat Willy aesthetic, it ironically reminds me a lot of Mickey's Mousecapade on the NES which was kind of like a Super Mario Bros 3 and Mega Man hybrid ripoff.
>>340635246
Jesus Christ that is some boring ass platforman
Compare that to some of TF's levels, this game embodies style over substance
Don't give a shit.
It's coming to PC, I'm buying it
>>340653526
>PC fags are so desperate that they list "it's a game and it's on the PC" as their number one reason for buying it.
>>340635594
That's not blackface.
>>340652598
Here's the issue I have while reading through the whole chain. Nobody has actually said WHY they think the design is good/bad. People have said it looks hard, people have said they thought other games did things well, but nobody has actually pointed out what parts of the trailer showed things they liked/disliked.
>>340649410
>critiquing a game is now shitposting
again kill yourself fag
>>340652598
And you're a fucking retard
Metal Slug is not a Boss Rush game like Cuphead
Cuphead gives higher priority to bosses than the regular levels like Alien Soldier does
Stop shitposting already
They're different games with different structures
>>340651549
>>340651794
You know, just because it's SUPPOSED to look like that, doesn't mean people aren't allowed to dislike it.
>>340653678
If that were true I'd be in a lot of debt because there's thousands and thousands of games on PC.
My point was though that people keep thinking it's Xbone exclusive.
>>340653776
I like that it feels like an 80s/early 90s arcade action game with it's simplistic design
There
>>340653793
>shitposting
>critiquing
wew again lad
>>340653458
>Donkey Kong Country
>Implying it wasn't ever Graphics>Gameplay from the beginning
>Even Miyamoto shat on it
wew lad
>>340653049
>It'll probably end up being $15-$20 which is too much IMO
Why don't you just pirate it at this point you fucking poorcuck
>>340654167
Not really talking about the art style discussion, people are actually explaining their viewpoints more there. The chain I replied too was about the gameplay and level design and like 70% of the discussion seems to be an argument about metal slug one.
>>340644240
Fack off m8.
>>340654039
You have an option to turn the filter off
Shut the fuck up already
Fucking retard
>>340653776
Not only did you refuse to read a reply chain, you were unable to even read my post before responding to it.
Here's a good start, but it should be your third time reading it if you weren't blind.
>>340649616
It's just platform after platform strung together. There is no variety in either gameplay or art. You'd be hard pressed to find a reason why it's _good_ level design -- and if you can't show how it's good then it must be bad or mediocre by default.
>people have said they thought other games did things well
Which is a perfectly valid argument. "This game had good level design because X, this other game does not so the level design is not as good." It's pretty simple, anon.
>>340646497
>The "levels" are only mini games for getting cash apparently
Well now that's made my interest go back down to when it was still just boss rush
>>340654404
I was talking about the gameplay
It feels like an 80s action arcade game
>>340654279
>Even Miyamoto shat on it
But he didn't. Why do people still believe this old ass rumor?
>Implying it wasn't ever Graphics>Gameplay from the beginning
But he was specifically talking about TF
>>340654279
>bringing that fake shit up again
>Miyamoto: The first point that I want to make is that I actually worked very closely with Rare on the original Donkey Kong Country. And apparently recently some rumor got out that I didn't really like that game? I just want to clarify that that's not the case, because I was very involved in that. And even emailing almost daily with Tim Stamper right up until the end.
Not that that changes the fact that all DKC games have better level design than what's been shown here.
>>340654507
Gee, calm down, will you? I'm on your side. I know it can be disabled and I'm not one of the people complaining about it. I was just saying that saying that people aren't allowed to criticise it because "it's supposed to look like that" is stupid.
>>340634803
Hell yea LMAO.... serves them right for releasing this only for Xbox. Its like me releasing my big dick only yo migdets, knowing that fat women and skinny women can capatalize off of it too.
>>340654582
Don't listen to that guy he's just shitposting
>>340653917
>Metal Slug is not a Boss Rush game like Cuphead
Why are you saying this like it's some kind of point? I already responded to that here:>>340652012
If you can't make it good, don't include it at all. It's not a hard concept.
>>340644074
They weren't caused by a bug, they were inspired by a bug during the development and then turned into a full feature. Combos were not a bug in the full release.
That's not even a good parallel in the first place.
>>340634986
This
Like the Eye Toy or the Kinect
>>340654741
Typing "CHROMATIC ABERRATION" in every damn thread in all caps is not a critique it's shitposting
>>340655056
True, but that's not what you were saying earlier.
>>340654838
Because it is a point you damn retard
Metal Slug is based around levels,Cuphead is based around bosses
And it's only the first level you can't judge everything from the first level
>>340655119
What I was saying was "why critique something that isn't mandatory?"
>>340655408
Oh, okay. Nevermind me, then.
>>340634941
Every exclusive to Xbox/ Microsoft is obviously windows store exclusive. Why would you even ask this question if the whole point of having the store is to keep the 30% cut?
>>340654570
Metal slug one's first level was four minutes long though, while this cuphead level was only one minute. You spend around as much time in each of the subareas in the first level as you do in the level shown in the preview.
>>340655283
>Metal Slug is based around levels
This isn't true, for one. The bosses in MS games are great; the whole thing is great.
Even if you were correct, you still haven't said how that excuses anything. It is not okay for a part of the game to be bad because they focused on the bosses, especially when that part could be easily removed. If a Mario game made you go through a terrible mini-game or driving section between levels would you be defending that because "Mario focuses on the platforming"? Of course not. That Mario game might even be good, but it would be good _in spite_ of the terrible sections between the good bits. Any criticism against the terrible bits remains valid.
>And it's only the first level you can't judge everything from the first level
It's the level they chose to show in order to impress us. This is what they consider impressive.
Regardless, yes, you _can_ judge things from the first level. Do you think other games make the first level intentionally bad? No, the design principles in the first level continue throughout the entire product. It's not like I'm judging it based off the difficulty, which of course then the first level would be easier.
>>340635246
Damn, that's kind of disappointing. I loved the idea when I first saw it and I'm a sucker for rubber hose cartoons, but the levels and platforming look kind of basic. I hope that was just demo gameplay.
>>340637243
>>340648631
I like how the game looks but I honestly doubt I could play though they game like that. It's going to make it hard to focus on things when the action becomes fast paced.
>>340656127
What they've shown isn't fucking bad though. There's more enemy variety than in the first level of MS1 (8 vs 6 not counting boss but counting weapon drop reskin) despite being one fourth the length with more varied platforming than the swamp section of the first metal slug level despite both sections taking around the same amount of length to complete.
It also has optional collectables in the form of the coins just like MS has with POWs.
It doesn't show a vehicle section but we already know those are in the games from other trailers we've seen.
>>340644240
>Having an opinion this fucking shitty
>not knowing that Yoshi's Island had extremely diverse levels with tons of different things to do in each level
Cup head being more similar to Yoshi's Island would be a fucking God send.
>>340652000
>or more accurately it's color fringing
No, that's not more accurately that's the exact same fucking phenomenon. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about to get the one-up on the "shitposters." I'm one of these "shitposters" in the thread and I already pointed out it can be turned off.
>>340652832
I worked with old projectors, and only shitty optics have it and not to that degree. No one in this thread actually associates it with old projectors because no one else has experience with them and are merely going by what they were told by the devs. I don't think there was no reason for it, but I also think it looks like shit, because it's actually very inaccurate to the real thing (like emulated scanlines) and because it's very painful to many people with discerning eyes.
>>340653776
Looks like you didn't actually read the reply chain.
>>340656127
>This isn't true, for one
Yes it is
Metal Slug is a traditional run 'n gun game it's not a boss rush style one
Never said the bosses were bad but they're not exactly the standout of the game
>>340656683
>What they've shown isn't fucking bad though.
Okay. You are perfectly welcome to have that opinion, but every argument you've made before this post has been full of holes and that's all I've been trying to point out.
>>340657017
No you haven't. You haven't addressed a single thing I've said. You've said you think the game looks repetitive and compared it to metal slug one. I've said the section we've been shown is way shorter than what you've been comparing it to and has more variation in enemy variety and platforming. You haven't responded to that at all.
>>340656990
>bosses aren't exactly the standout of the Metal Slug games
You very damn well know this is bullshit
>>340655656
>Every exclusive to Xbox/ Microsoft is obviously windows store exclusive.
No you cunt it's not
Stop spreading this misinformation
The game will be available on Steam,GoG,Humble Store,Windows Store
It will also work on Windows 7,8/8.1,10
From one of the devs
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206260297&postcount=281
Now shut the fuck up with this goddamn meme
>>340634803
Played it at PAX.
Was really fun and challenging, so it's probably going to sell ok and then get a PC Port.
I will buy it if it's released on any platform I own (which is basically all except xbone)
I'm usually not a platformer guy but this games artstyle males my dick diamonds
>>340636573
okay now when can I turn off the scanlines?
>>340657280
Was mainly referring to the first game
>>340634860
Xbox exclusives always outsold sony ones IIRC
Regardless it's going on steam
>>340656683
The platforming gameplay looks really generic. It's something that's nothing to write home about in something that should be worth writing home about. I'm not even vehemently saying it's terrible, but somebody says it doesn't look very good and its suddenly cuphead defense force ready to pull out comparisons to games that look nothing like the gameplay shown in the trailer. Seriously, the game's not out yet, we're going just by what's shown. There's no reason to defend it so vehemently, and from what I can tell most criticisms are just calling it subpar, and not calling it the downfall of videogaming incarnate. Maybe the final game will be better.
>>340645108
>snes box art vs gameplay
>>340657348
>so it's probably going to sell ok and then get a PC Port.
It already is getting a PC version
FFS how can people be this retarded?
The game has been advertised as Xbox One & PC since the beginning of time
>>340657280
Different anon but it kinda is. The bosses are pretty variable. There are some that are fucking terrible like the gate, some that get reused like the Iron Nokana, and some fairly boring/easy ones like the first boss of 3. There are plenty of fantastic bosses too but the quality is sorta hit or miss in general.
It won't be a success at launch but it might be a success 6 months later when it gets released on PS4.
>>340657373
They got rid of them
These are really old shots
Wait what? The game is mostly bossfights?
The fuck? i literally didn't know that game format even exists, that's pretty disappointing
>>340636682
Bankrolled by microsoft
So never
>>340657553
Because it's not a platformer
The platforming isn't the focus...the shooting everything on screen as fast and skillfuly as you can is
>>340657553
I agree with you though, I don't think I've ever said it looks great, just that what we've seen isn't terrible and that it isn't enough to call the game bad from. There's just one guy arguing that you can call the whole game shit from the first level because that's what they chose to show us and like three people calling him out on it.
>>340657819
>i literally didn't know that game format even exists
underage
be gone from this board
>>340640069
Not even Quantum Break flopped. Xbox exclusives usually sell incredibly well, which is kind of surprising
>>340657679
I don't care much for indie games, so I don't bother doing research. I saw what I saw and I came to give my two cents. No need to get upsetty.
>>340658067
>Sold 380k units
>Didn't flop
>>340658085
>I don't care that I'm an ignorant retard
>>340658326
You're clearly trying to reflect some issues on other people. Hope you get help soon.
>>340657517
No, They didn't.
Only the big ips like Gears and Halo did good
>>340657819
Do nu-gamers seriously not like boss fights? Boss fights have always been the best part of video games.
>>340658326
Found the indie dev.
>>340657949
No people have been arguing with me and I didn't say it was terrible.
>>340657886
I'm referring to the "platforming gameplay" sections and not just the simple platforms. They're not even really based around shooting enemies as fast as you can, you have more options to counter shooting enemies, enemy density is low, and the platform size and spacing gives you a lot of breathing time to take care of the few enemies present. It really doesn't move like one of those games at all and feels more like a generic platforming action game that has "just kinda there" level design and enemy placement. Very standard-fare.
>>340658031
That's quite the compliment; i'm actually turning 31 in november
There's just some game formats/genres i haven't gotten into in my childhood and youth, always been more on the casual side.
>>340658568
Probably people thinking you're the other guy then. That can happen on a board where nobody knows who any of the posters are. People just get profiled as "for" or "against" something and it's assumed that they agree with every other post made by someone who shares their perceived view.
>>340658438
Its too Japanese. Millennials grew up with only western games
>>340657739
Its bankrolled by MS, stop begging
>implying sonyggers buy games
Why the fuck has bloodborne only sold 2 mil?
>>340635246
Looks pretty good, hope it get to Contra levels of ridiculous
So I know I'm late to the thread, but can someone tell me if they are still using place holder audio in all of their videos?
Like the sound is unbearable and doesn't fit the 1930's-40's style of animation at all
Like it's always deafiningly loud music tracks covering little to no sound effects that sound like someone making pew pew noises with their mouth.
Like this is legit something that would make me not buy this game while everything else has made me really want to love it.
>>340658207
I heard it sold 2 mil
>>340658918
>Thinking 1/5th of Xbone owners bought it
>>340658893
I want to know this too. When is the release on this game?
>>340654646
Not him, but I will tell you a interesting fact. After the success of Donkey Kong Country, Nintendo actually started telling Miyamoto to "make games like Donkey Kong Country". Miyamoto didn't really listen however, and saw the artstyle of Donkey Kong Country as "a fad".
>>340658568
>They're not even really based around shooting enemies as fast as you can
They clearly are
Too much shit was going on in it
One of the devs who is good at the game was playing it too
>>340658580
How have you not heard of Gunstar Heroes or Contra?
>>340658918
highly unlikely, I bought it but none of my friends on Xbox Live did
>>340640896
But he clearly was?
>>340660071
Yeah, played and loved both. If that's what the game is gonna be like, that ain't so bad.
Literally the only Xbone exclusive I'm interested in at the moment. I'll play it when it's a Playstation Plus game in a few years.
>>340634803
it looked good
two years ago
now it is like... ok
i hope the gameplay is not shit
the graphics hyping is already too strong to believe that the game is even fun
tiiveeage
>>340664024
(cont)
the more you hype the game, the worst the gameplay is
ie: hotline miami: wrong number
years of hype
levels are literally SHIT built in two weeks
I think they missed their big chance by waiting this long.
It'll get drowned by other titles on release.
>>340666717
>how to pretend you're stopping time
I can see it working. They have these articles for pretending to be a vampire and shit
>>340667261
never mind replied to a wrong fucking thread for some reason
>chromatic abberation in hand-drawn 2d animated game
I hope this atrocity will never see light of a day
