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which series did spess muhrine the best?
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which series did spess muhrine the best?
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>>340631332
The design of the Nova troopers look the best, so I'll give that torch to them. I have a soft spot for the NEVEC ones though
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>>340631465
>The design of the Nova troopers look the best

are we looking at the same image?

nova trooper looks like it belongs in a waffle cone with fudge dripping
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>>340631332
Metroid
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>>340631332
>warhammer
>imperal guard
???
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I like Natural Selection 2's designs the most.
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>>340631332
Strange Journey, it's not even a contest. How is that not in your picture?

7/10 apply yourself.
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>>340631332
Persoanlly i would either go with UNSC trooper or Colonial Marines
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>>340631332
>imperial guard are the 'space marines' in this shot when that universe has multiple factions of space marines
>Half these guys don't even have power armour

Picture discarted
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Emperor Battle for Dune's Sardaukar.
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>>340631332
>Imperial Guard
>Spess muhrine
You're a heretic, son.
Pic related is the most iconic Space Marine representation short of the Starship Troopers / Aliens ones.
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>>340631617
This.
Where are my spehss muhreens?
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>>340633064
One could argue that the Tempestus scions (storm troopers) are sorta space marines in the context of that image, but the image doesnt even show them, it shows a regular grunt guardsman, one of the mud-stompers whose only job is to die with a flashlight in hand slowing down the enemy till big boys arrive or drown the enemy in corpses.
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Helghast
Wasted design on a shitty game.
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>>340631332
Here's what Robert Heinleins space marines looked like (at least according to nips, but at least they got their weapons and capabilities correct).
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either doom or elite force. if you're going for zero planning, carnage and destruction doom marine is best but if you want a more squad based marine which has proper mission briefings beforehand than go with elite force

the rest are just boring grunts instead of literally being infantry support for a spaceship
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Thread theme

https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
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>>340632837

just realized clone troopers are also missing from the list
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9f7VflCEIo
but seriously I think clone troopers look the coolest
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>>340633364

>tfw recently re-read starship troopers

i really fucking hope they make a TV series out of it. the political dialogue and training is pretty interdasting. even though i can appreciate the way the film satirizes heinlein's meritocracy, it's a shame the film was so iconic...
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>>340634376
Speaking of the movie vs book.
How the hell did they get the marines so absolutely wrong?

>In book
>Power armored highly trained soldiers armed with mini-nukes and wide array of high explosives, jumping all over the places thanks to their boost packs
>Training is gruesome and meant to turn every man into one man army
>Troopers are constantly told that they should just go home and forget about being a soldier

>In Movie
>weapons are Cadia pattern wet T-shirt and a Mordian pattern stubber
>Essentially Imperial guard the movie
>Significantly less gruesome training regime
>Quitting is highly stigmatized
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>>340635227
>How the hell did they get the marines so absolutely wrong?

>Verhoeven had never read the book, and attempted to read it for the film, but it made him "bored and depressed", so he read only a few chapters:

>I stopped after two chapters because it was so boring,...It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn't read the thing. It's a very right-wing book.
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>>340631332
I always liked the starcraft marine design.
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TARGET SPOTTED!
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>>340635514
This makes me sad that Starship Troopers is my favorite movie.
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>>340631332
Mobile infantryman
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>>340631332
Helghast
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>>340631332
Never touched the game but these are the best future soldier designs I've seen hands down
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>>340631617
Imperial Guard are closer to the typical space marine than... well, Space Marines. They're just generic unstoppable super soldiers. Every marine in the chart is just a normal human (yes, even the Terrans). Adeptus Astartes... aren't.
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>>340636110
They always seemed unnecessarily evil looking.
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>>340635227
>Essentially Imperial guard the movie

i want to send verhoeven a 40k novel and get him to direct a 40k adaptation.
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>>340636110
The ISA are really underrated and over shadowed by the Helghast in design though. They're my favourite space marine design because they feel so grounded and gritty but are sci-fi enough without feeling like 21st century soldiers dropped a hundred years into the future.
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What about RPG marines?
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>>340635514
>>340635227
The book and film are basically flipped copies of each other.
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>>340635978

If you ever read the book it wouldnt be anymore. I used to really like the movie but i cant stand it after reading the book and noticing exactly how they fucked everything up. Its depressing.
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>>340636496
I did read the book and I still really like the movie. I just kind of ignore the title.
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The TSA Marines in Natural Selection 2 look fuggin cool
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New Planetside did it sexiest.
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>>340636365

i remember threads lambasting ISA for still using plate carriers and a bullpup NOTM16 in the future

>lol space jews sold them armor from fucking 2003

desu, why bother attaching metal shit that's slow and shiny? and how can a recently invaded planet afford to equip their soldiers with power armor? or even maintain it?

>also the fucking intruder
>according to devs it's basically a pick-up with a harrier VTOL system

brb, MY PEOPLE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF HELGHAN
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>>340631332
The one that invented space marines: Halo
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Bulletstorm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkYpp_PT8k

Sequel never ;_;
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Pic related.Anybody who says otherwise should just kill himself
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No love for ODST marines?
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>>340636828
"Halo invented space marines"
Kill yourself you unworthy dog
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>>340635978
>This makes me sad that Starship Troopers is my favorite movie.

>The film includes visual allusions to propaganda films such as Why We Fight, Triumph of the Will and wartime newsreels, and the symbols, and certain clothing styles

>Verhoeven stated in 1997 that the first scene of the film—an advertisement for the mobile infantry—was adapted shot-for-shot from a scene in Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will (1935), specifically an outdoor rally for the Reichsarbeitsdienst.

that propaganda sure is effective.

honestly, it's easy to see how rule of cool makes shit look cool, and in retrospect it's pretty crazy how you can see the propaganda elements. even so, verohoeven is a pretty cool guy.

The cast agreed to do the co-ed shower scene only if Verhoeven agreed to direct the scene naked, which he did.[7]
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>wh faggots ruin yet anothe thread
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>>340631332
List of space marines without space marines on it.

>I don't even know anymore man. Chaos is looking pretty good.
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>>340636828
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>>340631332
>warhammer invented Space Marines
>Imp's
>no space marines
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>>340633364
Better example

This design is GOAT
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>>340631615
>fedoration marine

u blind?
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>>340635227
Verhoeven never read the book, he had a guy summarize it for him and just did what he wanted to afterwards. To Verhoeven, the Athenian democracy of Heinlein's Earth was Fascist.
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>>340636110
I would fuck Elite Shock Trooper
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As shitty as the game was I did like the bulky ass design of the power suits that some of the marines would run around in.
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>>340637118
Salamanders have come a long way
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>>340637230

not really, it's the fucking autists who can't accept that guardsmen are literally space marines.

>Marines, also known as a marine corps and naval infantry, are an infantry force that specializes in the support of naval and army operations on land and at sea,

sea ships, space ships, not one fucking ounce of difference in utility. ships carry marines, marines deploy on land, navy eat soggy biscuits, same shit different day.
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Overall /v/ I ask you, what game do you think best succeeded in making you feel like a future soldier?
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>>340637709
You better not think it's a girl just because it's the only one with remotely form fitting armour
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I have no real opinion on this, but I want to say that whereever in the rankings you put the halo games, the halo novels should be a full 2-3 ranks higher.

The novels handle all of this sort of stuff way better then the games do.

>>340637118
Spartans in halo aren't even really space marines.

The marines in halo are space marines. The spartans are more like "space whatever hitler's planned supersolider secret police force idea was"

They are kidnapped kids put through training from hell and augmentation procedures with a 50% failure rate (where failure meant death or horrible agonizing disfigurements) to act as a secret police force to keep the outer colonies from gain Independence and to assassinate/wuell key rebel leaders and movements.

It's shady as fuck. There's not a single fucking faction in halo that are "good guys".
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>>340637856
Aesthetically, Halo 3 ODST and Reach
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>>340637856
Interstellar marine
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>>340637946
Well, it's more probable.

But I just looked it up and it's a guy.

I would fuck Elite Shock Trooper.
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>>340631332
Cog for aesthetics
UNSC for probably most realistic
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Original Starcraft.

Nothing beats rednecks in space
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>>340637995
ODST armor is fucking sex
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>>340637981
>Spartans in halo aren't even really space marines.

They're pretty much navy seals, they fall under naval special warfare/navspecwar group.
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>>340638196

ODST are more like rangers though??

maybe Marine force recon? or are they Marine raiders now?
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>>340637981
>(where failure meant death or horrible agonizing disfigurements)
Wrong. Few of the washouts died or were physically crippled. Most ended up with deskjobs at ONI to keep them quiet, and only 1 Spartan has been shown to miss or be emotionally affected by the removal from their parents, which was in Legends anyways.

Stop shilling 343's "waaaah tha spertans r so saad ;___;" crap. In the original stories the kids got over the issue incredibly quickly since half the job of their trainers was to be surrogate parents.
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>>340638287
ODSTs are Navy Seals, though they act as supplementary forces to the Marine infantry for most of the series.

Rangers are an Army designation, you could call the IIIs in Reach.
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>>340637776
They realy are.
But a little yellow on the guy in your pic wouldnt hurt.
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>>340638287
ODST are like SAS or something like that, the elite troops.
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This thread made me realize that games are fucking awful at depicting frontline troops. No game comes even close to the marines from Aliens or Starship Troopers. The best we get are a bunch of stereotype meatheads.
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>>340631332
>look at all those grunts
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>>340637801
And?Astartes are also deployd with ships.
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>Speech Marines
>>They have absolutely nothing to do with ocean.
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>>340637856

Republic Commando. Shit was tight.
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>>340631332
>Spess muhreen chart
>Doesn't have THE spess muhreen
What the fuck
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>>340638541
Isn't that what Starship troopers and Aliens marines are?
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>>340638452
>>340638531

rangers can form the spear-tip of direct action operations, but navy seals don't have the manpower. also, that would be kind of intruding on army's turf. only reason navy seals went in to kill OBL was because JSOC was commanded by mcraven, a navy admiral. if it had been an army commander, rangers or sf would get sent in. if it was a marine commander, marine force recon, if it was air force, pjs?

anyway, the point is that navy seals are organized into teams, while rangers are organized under the an infantry regiment (around 3000 men).

also, navy seals supposedly suck at direct action, they take a lot of casualties because their infantry foundation is weak. good for raids and demos, but that's like most SF, they're all finely-tuned vehicles with specific missions in mind.
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Helghast. Even though they're a blatant rip off of Panzer Cop they're still the best looking.
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>>340638728
>>340638731

humans only please
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>>340639421

Aliens was "let's put all these amped-up jarheads in way over their heads and watch as they totally fall to bits"
Starship Troopers was more "let's blow all this propaganda up the asses of teenagers then watch as they all totally fall to bits"

The idea was that they subverted the meathead marine tropes rather than followed them blindly.
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>>340640245
>Starship Troopers was more "let's blow all this propaganda up the asses of teenagers then watch as they all totally fall to bits"
Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine is not Starship Troopers faggot.
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>>340631332
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>>340635227
They wanted to make a good movie, so they threw away everything from a shit book.
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>>340631332
>combine
>space
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>>340631332
Terran Space Marine is an overengineered abomination.

And that's what makes it the best.
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>no unique unit formations in vidya

>>340640881
>Terran Space Marine is an overengineered abomination.

aren't most of them just socially reneuralized, i.e. not quite lobtomized, criminals?

closest they get to genetic engineering is stimpacs
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>>340640881
90% of the male population in starcraft are overengineered abomination then.
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>>340631332
>asking for best space marine
>making a list without THE space marine.

nice one mate
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>>340639421
In the Aliens movie, you can see how they just act like meatheads to protect their sanity. They tell themselfes they are tough and superior, but they really do everything to get off the planet and never fire a bullet themselfes.

In the Starship Troopers movie, it is kind of the opposite. Everyone is just a regular person until they get stripped of their identities and given the army treatment.
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>>340637034
S-Source
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>space marine thread
>OP post IG but not the actual space marines
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>>340641098
>>340641136
I was talking about the god damn suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVtXac6if14
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>>340641569
LE HERETIC 4 DA EMPRAH XDDD roleplayers are here on time. You people are the most cancerous thing about 40k. Fuck off.
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>>340641736
my point was that op didn't use massively pushed army called THE SPACE MARINES
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Starship Troopers!
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>>340633073
Hell yeah brother! And here i thought no one remembers that game.

>AT ONCE
>AT ONCE
>AT ONCE
>AT ONCE
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>>340638862

Deltas move
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>>340631332
why is the PAC pistol such a piece of shit compared to the EU's?
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>>340637118
Everyone knows 40k just copied starcraft.
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>>340641876
Adeptus Astartes are super soldiers. None of the marines in the OP are that. They're just normal humans which is why Imperial Guard are there.

Astartes are the most boring, meme-tier shit about 40k. Delete them from the setting and it would be 1000x more interesting.
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The based Helghast army of course.
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>>340631332
Hellghast is cool.
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>>340642158
> NO SURRENDER
> CONSTRUCTION OPTIONS ARE NOW AVAILABLE
> BUILDING READY TO PLACE
> UNIT LOST
> TRAINING

I didn't even speak english when I played that game and I still remember the quotes
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>>340637856
Interstellar Marine, Halo: ODST, Republic Commando, Crysis 1-2.
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elementals stronk
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>>340631332
SMT Strange Journey.
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>>340631615
The federation marines look bland as fuck.
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>>340635514
>>340637675
>>340640749
Now this is some grade-A heresy!
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>>340631332
>No Section 8 space marines

You disappoint me, OP.
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>>340642465
Youre triggering my autism.
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>>340640670
Looks like a Tau spacemarin
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>>340642479
No
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>>340644584
Man I remember playing the demo for this. So fucking awesome blasting in without a pod. Made you feel so badass.
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Destiny's armor design is great.
Shame about the whole being a shitty game thing though.
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>>340634376
>I really hope they make a tv series out of it
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190198/
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>>340638290
>Wrong. Few of the washouts died or were physically crippled.

I don't think so. IIRC, there were 300 initial cannidates, but this got cut in half twice, down to 150 and then 75.

Looking at halopedia (not the wikia site, since the wikia site is shit), it says that 12 s2's were discharged as a result of augmentation failure, and most were severely crippled, and that 30 officially died as a result of them, but 5 of those 30 actually lived and it was ONI shenanigans.

So, that's 37 of 75 individuals, or 49%, AKA nearly exactly what I said.

>Stop shilling 343's "waaaah tha spertans r so saad ;___;" crap. In the original stories the kids got over the issue incredibly quickly since half the job of their trainers was to be surrogate parents.

That's not something 343 invented and you'd have to be retarded to think so. You even mention legends in your post, the fuck do you think Homecoming was about?

Anyways, moral ambiguity and making sacrifices is a central theme running throughout the halo series and it has been from the start.

UNSC vs innies, ONI and the S2 program, The foreunner's activation of the Halo array, the prophet's labeling of the humanity as heretics to preserve the covenant, etc

It's been there literally from the foundation of the series. 343 went progressively more and more retarded with each travis book, no doubt, but that doesn't mean it's not and shouldn't be explored as something unethical.
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"Imperial guard"

Fucking xenos.
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>>340631332
I love the design of the demolition troopers from Prime 3
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>>340631332
I like the stormtroopers the most

>no personality
>cool looking armor
>always work as a team

that's all I need

I prefer the clone wars storm troopers because of the customizations some of them had that basically let you know they could fuck your shit up
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>>340639737
Always loved that they used a mg42 variant in that anime. The mg 3 is still in service today.
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>>340640670
>your Ghost bigs up these guys as an enormous threat to you
>that dropship comes in and he starts freaking the hell out
>these giga niggas jump out and start shooting their gigantic guns at you
>oh shit, this is gonna be tough!
>...
>lol nope they're just as flimsy as everyone else and do no damage with their giant bullets

I was very disappointed with these guys.
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>>340631332
While not exactly "space" per se, I'm pretty fond of the PSICOM Soldiers from Final Fantasy 13. Power armor shaped like old fashioned plate armor pretty much exemplifies the unique Final Fantasy science-fantasy feel.

Galactic Federation marines from Metroid are pretty cool, but they lose points for having their guns integrated in to their armor. That doesn't really work unless you're Samus. Cerberus soldiers from Mass Effect 3 are pretty slick too
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