Let's talk Warcraft
Pros
>Respected the source material for the most part
>Action sequences were done very well
>Music was top tier
>Visuals were great
>Cinematography was above average
Cons
>Metzen influenced writing
>Weird pacing
>Plot relies heavily on Warcraft knowledge to be enjoyable,the average movie-goer will have to look a lot of shit up to fully comprehend the story
+/-
>Fan service done tastefully
>Film ends in a period of warcraft history that can bypass certain stories if need be
>Dalaran is already floating in the sky instead of Alterac MountainsFOR THE ALLIANCE!ending
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
>Music was top tier
>Film ends in a period of warcraft history that can bypass certain stories if need be
>>340605134
I DEMAND screen caps and webms of Draka's Pregnant belly.
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
it wasn't. so many wrong or missing parts of the lore. They fucking ruined Orgrim which is what pissed me off the most.
>Action sequences were done very well
they were above average. not the worst I've seen but nothing special
>Music was top tier
meh
>Visuals were great
when it was all CG it was. when it was mixed it looked terrible.
>Cinematography was above average
it was ok.
>>340606017
Would you really like a future movie to focus solely on the Draenei going to Azeroth or the gnomes joining the Alliance?
The film does establish the war between the orcs and the humans,and it establishes the kind of fuckery that Fel magic can do
The movie suffered because it tried to do a lot,but it wasn't just for shits and giggles.If a sequel or Netflix series were to be made,they could focus more on the characters and conflict,rather than establishing the world and all of the shit in it
>>340606384
Orgrim was the same as in book except less angry
>>340606436
>Netflix series
>>340606384
You know this takes place in an Alternate-Alternate Azeroth right?
Like an Azeroth Cinematic Universe.
>>340605134
Honestly I thought the movie was really good.
That being said it needs an extended edition for the pacing.
It was the only thing holding "really good" back from being "excellent".
You can also kinda' smell the Metzen every time an orc wants to develop personality.
>>340605134
>Warcraft movie
>The god-awful brown orcs
Fuck you.
I'm just hoping there's enough interest to get a movie about Arthas made
>>340606474
He didn't have his Black Plate Mail.
He didn't kill Blackhand and take control of the Horde.
He betrayed Durotan, something he would never do.
He was part of the Frostwolf clan and not the Blackrock clan.
They fucked his entire character and took everything important that he did and gave it to Lothar and Garona.
Was I the only one who thought the high elves in the movie looked really fucking weird?
Like, are the high elves suppose to be the Asians of the Alliance or something?
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
Not at all
>Action sequences were done very well
You can't tell whats going on, and background characters sometimes look like they're legit concerned they fake punched another actor
>Music was top tier
It was alright
>Visuals were great
Dear god no, that's some of the worst cgi I've ever seen
>Cinematography was above average
Hardly at all
I love Warcraft, hell I played WoW straight up and into several months of WoD. That movie is fucking garbage though. I'm honestly not sure what was a bigger waste of my time Batman vs. Superman or the Warcraft movie, I'd probably have to edge it to BvS being worse, but not by much.
>>340605134
>>Respected the source material for the most part
>>340606732
He took Durotans fang it means he AT LEAST will be chieftan and show Thrall the ways and give his hammer
>>340606746
One of them did look Japanese as fucking shit
>>340606690
it did really well in China,they fucking love Warcraft over there. and my theater was packed,so I'm hoping that despite poor reviews,it does well enough
>>340606746
The glowing eyes on the high elves were what threw me off for a second,they were way too bright
>>340606535
it mite b cool if it were an animated series though
>>340606746
According to Duncan, Elves also have races like Humans, like they can be asian and mexican and black and shit. Even though their races are "Night, High, and Blood." which are all basically Norwegians with white skin or purple/blue skin.
>>340606943
You CIS Elf scum should die
Why didn't the dwarf sound all Scottish and shit
>>340606865
Orgrim wasn't a Frostwolf, not to mention all the Frostwolves are dead so what the fuck is he going to be the chieftain of? You are also assuming they jump to Thrall for the next movie and skip over the second games story.
>>340606384
go back to english class
>Respected the source material
>dindu nuffin orcs
>>340605134
>no warcraft animated series
PLZ IT WOULD BE SO GREAT
FUCK THE LIVE ACTION SHIT
>>340607087
No I think Orgrim will become chieftan of the Horde at the end of the second movie when Guldan dies
He will see Thrall at the end of the 3rd that would be mostly about Thrall
Or so I think
So you fags gonna stream the movie or what?
>>340607325
I'll wait for the Blueray
>>340607325
the cam rip is dog shit. Audio skips, people's cell phone going off, clips of movie cut out, ending cut off
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
hahahahahahahaaaa
fuck you
i just watched that pile of fucking shit
i'm not even going to read the rest because after that laugh i am sure you are fucking wrong about everything
>>340607227
so he becomes the Warchief of the Horde at its downfall? because the Orcs lose the Second War.
Orgrim originally kills Blackhand, takes control of the Horde and beats the Humans and sacks Stormwind.
>>340607516
i watched the cam rip.
it was actually pretty nice considering.
the blur actually made the movie looked better because it hid all the terrible CGI
audio cut out like once on a stupid scene
>>340606535
>Not wanting an animated CGI show, Clone Wars/Rebels style, which would let them tell multiple different stories within the Warcraft lore.
Everything orc 8/10
8/10, looks like eye-candy, great characters, great story
rest of the movie 3/10
>horrible writing
From darkness comes light and from light darkness, are you fucking kidding me metzen? What were u fucking thinking?!
>looks absolutely horrible
That ridiculous king armor and just about any human armor other than Anduin
>shitty characters
kings is pointless, queen is pointless
>lothar's son
Where do I even begin with this one?30s of screen time just to be killed off for that there "tragic death"Meanwhile Lothar:Oh shit this is the worse I've ever felt in my life...5 min later...ok I'm all better now
>alodi
FUCK OFF, what the absolute fucking shit was this crap? I don't even know what the fuck that crap was. Let me go back to "from darkness LIGHT!!!" WOOOOOOW BRAVO METZEN
In conclusion I moderately enjoy this movie but it would have been a lot better if Metzen had absolutely nothing to do with it.
>>340607664
garona half orc mongrel also is a slave bitch to gul'dan and assassinated the king because she was ordered to
not some puppy bitch like in the movie
>>340605134
>Making a movie for the fans was wrong
What could have been fixed? Theres too much to establish in order to make a movie for the mainstream audience.
>>340606943
Blood elves and high elves are technically the same thing. Blood elves are red because they sucked the mana out of demonic artifacts after the sunwell was rekt by Arthas. It's like green orcs and brown orcs.
>>340607982
i'm also completely confused by that fucking alodi shitoh shit, we need someone to confirm that mehdive is ebil progress the plot pleaseshould i step in? *shrug*
that was some brilliant plot advancement there
>>340607982
Oh and btw this is coming from someone who's never played horde in his life.
>>340607983
yeah and she was fucking Medivh, who was not her father.
>>340605134
>made a movie about the fucking orcs coming out of the gate
>not about warcraft 3's god tier storyline
>that game was literally the height of warcraft lore
>we got this boring ass shit
>the pacing was awful
>no reference information for people who don't know the lore
eh
>>340608369
who wasn't she fucking in the movie.
she was pretty much inviting all the men between her legs
REKT
>>340608378
gotta establish the world first
how in the fuck are you just going to give everyone WC3 in a neat little 2,MAYBE 2 and a half hour package?
>>340605134
>>Respected the source material for the most part
I guess that's not untrue, but with special emphasis on the "for the most part" part
>>Action sequences were done very well
If it wasn't for point 4, this would've been true.
>>Music was top tier
No strong opinions
>>Visuals were great
This is the biggest flaw. Mixing CG with real people was the worst idea anybody could've had. It would be best to make it all CG or even making them all actors (the orcs at least) would've been less terrible.
As it stands it's so inconsistent it ruins the entire thing.
>>Cinematography was above average
Again, not untrue depending on what's your standard of "average"
>>340608464
Except Khadgar because apparently it would break him.
>>340608671
oh please, i am sure the real khadgar banged her with his magic stick
i'm glad they are keeping the movie completely separate from everything else
>>340605134
>visuals were great
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Seeing how Orcs are all giant burly doyaevenlifts how the fuck did humans survive any field battle? Superior numbers? Technology?
Someone explain the final battle to me
So Llane walks up to Garona and says "Kill me so there's peace between humans and orcs" and maybe I'm just retarded but I have no idea how that'd actually do anything. And then she does it. Am I missing something? She wasn't even mind controlled, he simply asked her to do it for some reason.
>>340609915
Superior numbers, technology, better tactics, and some humans could still fight orcs one on one regardless.
>>340609915
because humans are also doyaevens in the games
all humans are built like saxton hale
>>340609938
King Llane tells Garona that she must be the one to assassinate him in order to be accepted by the orc clans,so that she may work as a mediator of sorts.
King Llane understood that Orcs weren't ever going to leave Azeroth,so that at best,they should try and come up with some sort of truce.Having a diplomat that can communicate with both sides is crucial in that
>>340609938
his thinking was "I'm gonna die anyway. might as well let her kill me, she gets the honor and she can help lead the horde and then try to steer the horde to peace" which would work if she killed Gul'Dan and took control of the Horde but with him still alive and running the Horde that will never happen.
>>340610152
Does this movie seriously skip over Orgrim's time as warchief? That's pretty horseshit
>>340610005
>Superior numbers
they mention in a scene that they do not have enough soldiers to attack the orcs, and they just charged them at the end, not really any tactics in that.
>>340610328
The movie is completely full of shit, what do you expect
>>340609938
horrible writing from a dumbass
they built her up to be this strong woman lead and didn't want to show the true ending of her betrayal so they made that sappy bullshit instead
>>340610005
>>340609915
In the games the humans stood a chance only because
a) wizards fucked the Orcs's shit up
b) knights fucked the Orcs's shit up
Seriously the first time the knights met the orcs they destroyed a whole clan
>>340610328
they had guns though
>>340610268
not only that, he betrays Durotan, doesn't wear his black plate mail, doesn't kill Blackhand and take over the horde and he is part of the Frostwolf clan.
>>340609915
In the games humans and orcs are more or less the same height
Sicne the movie is dindu propaganda they made them that way
>>340610605
What the fuck.
Why is Blizzard trying to make Orgrim into a shitter?
>>340610563
in the games, once gul'dan was gone the horde lost all their real demon strength
most of them because drooling morons, the humans didn't want to kill them so they put them in camps for labor and other shit.
So Grom WAS in the movie, right? There was an orc that looked like him but no one really addressed him so I wasn't terribly sure. The camera also hung on him sometimes for no reason so that also makes me think it's him.
>>340610757
Grom, Kargath and Killrogg were all in the movie
>>340610725
I'm talking about the First War you dummy.
At the beginning two orc clans sack human towns and they think that humans are all weak shits. Then the knights appear out of nowhere and tear the orcs a new one.
>>340610757
yeah i believe that was him too.
he had absolutely no lines and just stood there like a remember me.
>>340610710
I don't know and its pissing me off. Orgrim was always my favorite Orc character and Warlords pissed me off because it completely disregards him and kills him off screen. I was hoping they wouldn't fuck him up in this movie but they did.
it felt like a whole hour was cut from the movie. as someone who never gave a shit about Warcraft(or it's lore) the whole film felt like a fever dream(boring one at that)
>>340610929
>it felt like a whole hour was cut from the movie
40 minutes actually
>>340610757
yeah he's in a few scenes but he has no dialog. Kargath is in a few scenes too but again no lines.
where were the paladins?
aren't they basically there to fight fel and undead
>>340611004
Paladins didn't exist until the second war
>>340611004
paladins didn't existed yet
>>340610807
ah, okay. the first contact with actual fighters
>>340611004
Paladins didn't become a thing until the second war. Khadgar seems to tap into the Light when he cleanses a bunch of Fel magic at the end but thats about it.
>>340608540
Torrent where?
>>340605134
>>Cinematography was above average
End yourself you myopic pleb
durator playing fucking Cliche bad is a good guy orc dindu noffin we was good boys
fuckoff
>>340611068
>>340611070
>>340611139
than what the fuck happened in warcraft 2
i need to play that shit
i am confused thinking it was just one long ass war
>>340611139
Priests existed since forever though.
Also the Paladins will never get a proper introduction and instead of five there will be like two at most.
i like the mexican wizard movie was dank
Is this movie really nothing but exposition? Characters talking about the lore from start to finish?
>>340611279
Warcraft 1 = First War = Orcs vs Humans of Stormwind
Humans lose
Warcraft 2 = Second War = Orcish Horde (+ trolls, goblins, ogres, undead) vs Alliance of Lordaeron (seven human kingdoms + elves + dwarves)
battles all over the world, Horde lose
>>340611359
the fuck are you talking about you retard
watch the fucking trailer
>>340611359
There is actually very few lore-related things.
Instead characters just take forever to talk about how fine Garona is, how someone is related to someone, etc
>>340611384
>undead
>Warcraft 2
>>340611359
there is a fuck ton of exposition.
probably why it is dinged pretty hard by critics, and i don't blame them.
also they basically tell like 5 different stories at once and tie up fucking nothing in the end
elfs look like fucking gooks wtf so fucking ugly
>>340611562
newfag plz
WHY THE FUCK HASNT ANYONE MADE A WEBM OF THE MURLOC CAMEO
FUCK
>>340611662
because they casted nothing but chinese as elves.
for the chinese movie market
>>340611697
there was a murloc cameo?
all i saw was them walking over a bridge in a swamp and i heard a murloc
>>340611279
Warcraft 2 was the Second War.
First War is the Horde entering Azeroth, attacking Stormwind and beating the Humans, destroying Stormwind. Orgrim kills Blackhand, becomes the Warchief of the Horde, kills Gul'Dan's Shadow Council. Lothar, Khadgar and King Llane kill Medivh who was working with the orcs under the corruption of the demon Sargeras. Garona who was Medivhs lover and friend of Lothar and Llane, assassinates the King. The Humans that escape are lead by Lothar and head to Lordaeron where they create the Alliance.
Second War is Orgrim leading the Hrode to conquer Azeroth, Gul'Dan makes him Ogre Magi, Death Knights and they enslave Dragons. They also ally themselves with Trolls. Lothar is the leader of the Alliance, a bunch of Knights are made Paladins and everything comes to head in a final battle. Gul'Dan betrays the Horde and fucks off to die by demons looking for Sargeras Skull for more demonic power. Lacking Magical support the Horde loses but not after Orgrim crushes Lothars skull with the Doomhammer in a 1v1 fight.
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
I'm not that well acquainted with Warcraft's lore so I won't comment on that.
>Action sequences were done very well
They suffer from the same problems 90% of Hollywood action sequences have (Style over substance, big CGI battles yet you don't feel immersed in them, etc).
>Music was top tier
It was a generic orchestra
>Visuals were great
>Cinematography was above average
The whole thing looked like a bad fan movie and the use of green screen is so obvious it hurts.
>Plot relies heavily on Warcraft knowledge to be enjoyable,the average movie-goer will have to look a lot of shit up to fully comprehend the story
Went with a few friends who didn't know shit about Warcraft other than it being a video game and they understood everything that was going on, Warcraft story doesn't get complicated until WC3
Wait until the domestic box office results to see if there's going to be a sequel.
>>340611852
Yeah if you look under the bridge at the stream there's a Murloc standing on a rock going full Tusken Raider.
>>340611895
>not after Orgrim crushes Lothars skull with the Doomhammer in a 1v1 fight
>>340606436
>Would you really like a future movie to focus solely on the gnomes joining the Alliance?
HELL
FUCKING
YES
>>340612014
I'm going from the Tides of Darkness book not the game.
>>340612013
i may have missed it because of the quality i was watching it in
>>340612093
I know but that book is bullshit
>>340612139
I disagree.
>>340612209
You can disagree all you like, fuck the retcon
>>340612124
Understandable, my friend manages a theater so I saw it at midnight Wednesday with his coworkers.
Generally disappointed that the Clay Golem didn't become an Infernal btw
>>340611943
>Style over substance
Hollywood has shitty taste on how to make over the top fights
>>340612209
Ithink you're perfectly entitled to your opinion
Too much story, like way too much, the first 30 minutes was fucking awful.
When I see "warcraft movie" I expect 2 hours of WC3/WOW style cinematics, there way way too much setup for such a simple story, and not enough warcraft
>>340612291
i honestly thought it was going to turn into an infernal or into the curator
>>340612431
autistic kid take some Ritalin next time
>>340612491
Yeah what the fuck was up with that? We get a slight build up like it's gonna go full demon but nope, he just makes one arm into immobile felstone.
what happened to that dude's shoes?
did i miss when he took them off.
>>340612828
his feet were stuck in the Golem and he had to take them off to escape. its was pretty fucking stupid all things considered. I don't see why the golem was still soft clay anyway it had to have hardened by that point.
>>340612828
He threw them at the guard after he yelled at him to open the cage.
>>340612093
Games are canon
Books are canon only when they don't contradict the games
Doomhammer didn't 1v1 Lothar
>>340612828
stuck into the golem
>>340612954
other way around m8
warcraft was shit till wc3 anyways
A series of very minor but major flaws
>dwarves aren't Scottish. FFS you couldn't hire Billy Connelly for a day?
>Dalaran already flying
>Khadgar has essentially none of his actual backstory (pissed me off, rereading The Last Guardian as I type)
>Lothar's dead fucking serious the entire time even though he was the Jugghead to Lhane's Archie
>you have to infer Garona's a half-breed, not difficult but fuck, just tell them "I'm half bred" you useless ambiguous cunt
>no trolls
>>340610757
kinda looks like him
>>340613271
>no trolls
Trolls didn't come around until the second game.
I now realise that the entire WOD expansion was just to introduce the orc cast to newfags, (and rez guldan)
>>340613318
thats Grom. he has the chin tattoo and is wielding Gorehowl.
>>340613404
yeah, that's what i am realizing.
and also why everything is poorly implemented.
the game just turned into advertisement for the movie
>>340605134
>orc sacrifice was completely pointless
>it's evident that a lot of scenes got edited out
>the guardian's motives were stupid as fuck and didn't make sense fr anyone that doesn't know warcraft lore
>>340605134
It was fucking terrible. It's like Blizzard blew up their budget on orcs and said fuck it to everything else. Torrent it, it's not worth watching in theaters.
>>340613361
Ah, mb. Forgot Zul'jin wasn't until 2
I watched this kino with a normalfag friend who's never played Warcraft (including WoW). He's no even all that into video games(he'd fit right in on /v/)and he said he had a ton of fun with the moive.
Lore-knowledge is in my second-hand experience very optional.
>>340613486
>the guardian's motives were stupid as fuck and didn't make sense fr anyone that doesn't know warcraft lore
This, the entire Song of Aegwynn/Sargeras possession was crammed into one half-assed scene of Khadgar finding a black n red book.
Cant even compare it to LOTR series
>>340613716
It needs an extended edition. Badly.
You can kinda' tell where something was cut for runtime though I can't understand why Peter Jackson got away for a 19 hour Return of the King but if Warcraft stepped a toe over 1.5 hours it would lead to immediate execution.
Especially when the movie so badly needed it.
>>340608671
But would his spirit break before his body?
>>340613831
*for = with
>>340605134
Sigh I was hoping the critics were wrong and out of touch but no.. the movie is pretty terrible.
It tries so hard to be like LOTR, to be epic and big. Sometimes it hits, but most of the time it misses. The acting performance is incredibly bad for everything that isn't an orc. Costumes looked cheap,The filming itself wasn't great either with many scenes that looked fake and out of place. Oh and the story is complete shit.
Torrent it boys, it's really not worth watching in theaters.
>>340610596
>The moral of the film is that guns are great and they will save you, your family and land from invaders with a different skin
The NRA are going to love this movie
>>340613886
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is soft and spongy.
>>340613917
it would have been better if they actually had LOTR level of orcs instead of CGI nonsense
>>340605134
I know warcraft lore like the back of my hand (before WoW fucked it up) and I thought the movie was alright. I'd say it was actually pretty good whenever orcs were on screen but the human parts were pretty boring. I get why they changed a lot of stuff around. Portraying the full series of events from the original lore on the Orc side could be a 2 hour movie all on its own.
I'll tell you one thing, Grom Hellscream looked fucking badass. He pops up in the background fairly often but never says anything. I hope we get sequels just to have him become a central character for a while before he bites it.
>>340614115
It would have been better if they didn't let Chris fucking Metzen at the writing too. Jesus.
Remove the stupid fucking love story
Use that time to fix the absolutely horrid pacing of the intro bits
>>340614249
>creates wow lore
>doesnt want him involve in the movie
>>340611562
When Orgrim Doomhammer dropped the hammer (literally) on the warlocks in the Horde and was about to kill Gul'dan as well, Gul'dan convinced him to show mercy by promising to raise dead Orcs as Death Knights, which he did. They're a unit in WarCraft 2. I'm sure you're 14 and have never played it but at least try to pretend you have some clue about what you're talking about before you run your mouth.
>>340614249
what the fuck is up with the magic black cube that is in the movie for like 1 minute just to explain, oh. by the way medivh is evil
that is some low quality writing right there.
>should i step in
>i dunno
>>340605134
How did you forget to mention the abysmal acting performance of humans? Seriously I literally cringed at least 15 times while watching.
>>340605134
I know most of the lore so I think this movie was great but I can understand how it looks like a bootleg Lord of the Rings to normies
>>340614481
lol this loser took 20mins to look for that couple units of death knights - undead
>>340613404
To me the only worthwhile shit we got from the expansion was a glimpse at Ogre culture, and more fleshed out Arakkoa lore.
>>340610757
Grom pops up a few times but never says anything. It's very clearly him.
Kargath shows up toward the end at the portal.
Kilrogg Deadeye is also there. He's the one that snaps that human's neck.
The only chieftman they're missing is Ner'zhul. I wonder if they just didn't give a shit or if they're saving him for a Lich King story.
>>340614673
What?
ITT: greasy fat nerds who didnt go out to see it
get a life the movie was great /Thread
but Mah lore oh stfu
I really liked the Durotan vs Gul'dan fight. Well made, the villain was menacing and I actually cheered for Durotan which I didn't think would happen.
>>340614678
>Ner'zhul
He stayed behind on Draenor
>>340614678
He's oddly absent form the movie universe. Apparently he's not even mentioned in the book that takes place before the movie, and Gul'dan is the one who does all the shit Ner'zhul should have done.
>>340614678
>Kilrogg Deadeye is also there. He's the one that snaps that human's neck.
I don't think that was him, he was wearing to much armor to be Kilrogg
>>340614793
if you like terrible CGI
normal fags will hate it too.
too confusing for their brain dead popcorn munching faces
also very little fighting for them
>>340614674
It's hilarious how Grom in WoD looks nothing like him but the movie fucking nailed it. And I don't mean his skin color. WoD Grom has this weird pig face and he's too squat. Grom is lean and mean. Part of why he's so badass is that he's a runt by orc standards but still makes them all shit their pants with his battlecry alone.
>>340614678
They'll cut Ner'zhul, you don't need him to corrupt Arthas, it can be some kind of demon.
>>340605134
So its a good popcorn flick if you are well versed in Warcraft lore?
post yfw Gul'dan takes off his robe
>>340614846
for sure one of the best part of the movie
>>340615110
no on both
if you are familiar with the lore it is shit
if you like entertaining movies and no nothing of the lore you will be bored
>>340614984
It's absolutely him. It looks exactly like him and he's right next to Kargath and Grom in that scene. It's a clear nod.
>>340615238
So its impossible to enjoy?
>>340615238
>if you like entertaining movies and no nothing of the lore you will be bored
i guess you are saying you rather watch bayformers
>>340614846
It was fun to see Gul'dan go angry grandpa mode
>>340614938
There is a tie in book to the movie?
>>340615146
>>340615195
I'm not well versed in the lore but can Gul'Dan really just full ham like this? I thought he relied more on trickery and such.
>>340615308
The things they changed in terms of lore are almost inconsequential
you'll be fine with it unless your super anal about lore
if you know nothing about it in the first place its pretty good if you're really craving some high fantasy
>>340615308
pretty much
This guy was terrible for Lothar. He looks good but he can't act worth shit.
Are blizzard drones literally fucking blind?
How does this garbage qualify as good cinematography? The movie cared more about vanservice shots than moving and developing it's own fucking plot.
People who think this garbage "looked good" need to pull their own eyes out of their asses. Main orcs were the only decent cg in that flop. Everything else looked like complete fucking joke and it is saying much in a movie that has CG in every fucking scene.
And no. Being pandered to does not work as a valid defence against critique. If you honestly believe that then you are just as fucking bad as the cunts who defend IGNs and Gamespots with their 10/10 garbage scoring.
>Huur I, the King, will let you, the halfblood slave whore, murder me to save your life
It's not even true to the original material. Jesus merely remembering this garbage gives me shivers.
>>340615412
Hes both. Hes ridiculously OP. Probably the most OP orc of all time if he gets his magic involved. But he PREFERS to work behind the scenes.
>>340615412
Well with the life-steal thing he can do both since he can just acquire more strength and virility if he needs to.
>>340615335
i know what general movie goers watch.
lots of scene transitions with a central focus of a character.
this movie does the star wars prequel shit where it's all over the place and shit doesn't make sense.
Played the game since release day, know a decent amout about the lore and stopped playing around 4 years ago.
The dialogues are cringeworthy and the pacing is fucked to hell. It`s 2 hours of exposition.
Everyone who cares about WoW will know what happen anyway, and everyone who dosn't is probably confused as fuck.
What keeps this movie popular and makes retarded fanboys drool over it is that there is some recognizable stuff shoved in every few minutes. The movie basically goes like this:
10 minutes of shitty acting and dialogue -> HEY IS THAT A MURLOC? -> 10 minutes of shitty acting and dialogue -> HEY IS THAT WESTFALL??? I KNOW THAT I PLAYED THE GAME YOU KNOW! -> Action scene -> 10 minutes of shitty acting and dialogue -> rinse and repeat
I can`t remember the last time i was this bored during a movie. There were like 1 or 2 cool looking scenes like when gul'dan kills the deer , but that dosn`t excuse almost 2 hours of NOTHING HAPPENING
The CG looks okay on some parts, and absolutely terrible on other parts. Every time an actor is alone on screen with a CG character, (like when Lothar threatens to kill the orc if that wolf comes any closer ) the actor usually dosn't move at all, because they don' know what they are supposed to react to.
Also, i have no clue why they casted a fish to play the king.
Do yourself a favor and torrent it if you are curious. The low review scores are 100% justified, and it's not a movie for fans. It`s a movie for drooling retards that eat up everything that is well marketed.
>>340615308
nah dont listen to these fucking neckbeards the movies is atleast good and great if ur not a lore snub
Will Turalyon be in the next movie?
Bowie's son is a disgrace
>>340614846
>Cheered for durotan
I cheered for Gul'dan.
>>340606320
shut the fuck up, This is DIRECTLY video game related. Faggot.
>>340615474
Why was he so fucking goofy?
>>340615683
god i miss his smug ass face.
wish they did more of that in the movie.
they always looked angry.
>>340615651
maybe he'll be a young knight seeing lothar as a father figure
>>340615651
If they pick up at the Second War, which it seems like they might given Lothar takes his position as Supreme Commander, yes.
If they time skip to Thrall's story, no.
>>340615710
for humor purposes
>>340615550
>i have no clue why they casted a fish to play the king.
Holy shit are you me, I thought the exact same thing as soon as I saw him.
>>340615728
Gul'dan was really only smug on Wod.
he went overboard with that shit in there actually.
I never thought i would say this, but i liked the movie gul'dan more.
don't get me wrong, i still love troy baker's version.
Here's a shot of Kargath. What do you think that peasant staring him down is thinking?
>>340615882
>my feet hurt
>how does this monster wipe his ass?
>I wish I was in goldshire
>>340615882
>He looks pretty cool
>maybe he likes Burzum??
>>340615651
I at first thought that they've replaced tyralyon with lothar's son, bur since he died it's a guarantee that we will, because he still has a failed father complex, so he'll form a father-son bond wih turalyon to overcome that.
>>340615882
he is probably typing in general chat about how some high level horde is ganking him
>>340615412
Gul'dan is extremely powerful (the strongest mortal warlock that ever existed), also smarter than all the other orcs, hence why he decided to lure them instead of using brute force.
>>340616067
I find it more possible that he will have a father and son bound with Varian, they could even do a
>Swear to me Varian, swear that you will never trust an orc
>>340615474
I've wasted nine years and thousands of shekels playing this shit solely on the Horde. Went into the movie with rock bottom expectations, and that man made the movie for me. I'm clearly crazy because no one seems to think this guy can act. He seemed like Aragorn-Lite.
>>340608671
Khadgar was a qt in the movie, the baby fat and that ridiculous facial hair added to the charm. He's obviously still way to go before he become cool as a cucumber, but he'll make it
>>340616163
also gul'dan is a cheater
just like thrall is a cheater
>>340610148
What he didn't understand however is that the alliance wouldn't want to talk to a traitorous bitch who litrally backstabbed their king. That's why the change in garona's storyline was completely retarded and unnecessary.
>>340616440
Are all the main orcs incapable of showing honor during Mak'gora?
>>340616396
I'm a hordefag and i hate khadgar ingame.
Mexican ass nigga khadgar was baller though.
too bad every time i log in to do HFC i have to live with the faggot ass old khadgar.
Man, he was much cooler when he was younger.
>>340616474
they should have just stayed honest to the actual story.
of course then it would just get SJWs panties in a bunch because "muh strong independant womyn"
>>340616440
I'm still blown away at that fuckup in WoD. Blizzard can't even keep their own lore straight.
>>340605134
>damage control
>>340616474
No one was supposed to know. He did not expect Lothar to show up and take the body from the horde with Garona's knife in his neck
>>340616440
>Caring about bullshit honor
He would have won even without drain soul though.
>>340605134
I've played wow 6 years, played all warcraft rts in their prime. And let me tell you i definitely did not love the movie.
The reports are correct, Guldan and the orcs overall is the good bit as the vfx are very well done, but the alliance actors are bad, the editing is clumsy, and the storytelling flow is weird to say the least.
This movie doesn't even spend a single minute trying to present and explain draenor, azeroth, the kingdoms or the clans. Not a minute. They don't even explain what the guardian is besides this cheesy line: 'I am the Guardian, I will protect Azeroth". The movie doesn't explain Medivh's corruption.
Dominic Cooper was incredibly bad, he had nothing kingly about him and delivered 90% of his cheesy lines like a soulless robot. Patton was apparently competing with him as to decide who was the most terrible actor. Foster was very hit or miss. Khadgar and Lothar were the only 2 characters somewhat well adapted/acted on the alliance side.
The romance plot line between Lothar and Garona was utter shit, borderline cringe. The plotline about Lothar and his son was completely skippable, it did not matter in any meaningful way at all.
The cinematography was all over the place. You have great camera work and you have pissing poor camera work. You have amazingly well lit scenes and you have horribly lit scenes (act 3 karazhan stands out as incredibly bad).
The music was ok but very forgettable, too little from the games and only one theme truly stands out. Also I can't remember the last time I saw the title screen used twice in a movie. That felt so fucking weird and completely out of place.
This movie stinks of meddling from several parties. The universal execs, the blizzard execs, the legendary execs, and ofc Duncan Jones. I would be very curious to see a longer cut and get a better feel of what Jones's vision was. We've ended up with a flawed adaptation IMO.
>>340613271
>Lothar's dead fucking serious the entire time
Have we watched the same movie?
>>340616594
Yes they can, because Thrall does face the consequences for cheating in Legion
Seriously who the fuck ever picture elves as fucking asians holy fucking shit atleast they dont look like elves maybe then can be niggers
>>340616665
Post on /tv/
They take autism tier complaints there
i don't mind the actor that portrayed khadgar.
i think he did a fine job for a young khadgar.
what i didn't like was they fucking blew off his fucking apprenticeship with fucking medivh
>>340616776
nah, try to stop me
movie felt rush i think part 2 is going to be great tho and 3 would probably the best
>>340616554
You shut your green mouth
Uncle Khadgar is great
>>340616760
Why are you even bothered by that?
I mean blood elves were always anime-tier
>>340616984
>blood elves
>>340617047
blood elves are just high elves wearing red pants
>>340617047
Yes this evles are future blood elves and are basiclly the same thing
>>340616665
This. I laugh when I read blizzdrones trying so hard to defend that shit and making it sound like the best thing since sliced bread. Glad I torrented that piece of crap.
>>340617120
camrip?
>>340617120
Better than Hobbit at least
>>340616614
How do you think it would work anon?
>Hey, so the horde leaders now listen to you, huh? How come?
>because reasons
>well, ok, but let's ask those other orcs here - why do you guys respect the halfbreed so much, even though you despised her before?
>she killed your warcgief, nigga
Come on. There is literally no way it would stay a secret with so many people witnessing the event
>>340617175
no its not
>>340617120
>implying u would watch it elsewhere
>>340617193
Please don't make it sound like Garonna will be the next warchief
>>340606894
>Warcraft movie is a success because of China
>Arthas movie in the works
>banned in China because skulls
i want to believe
>>340616984
I'm more bothered that they took the ugliest possible asian to play a high elf. You have to fill your racial divercity quota, fine, i get it. But make an effort to find a handsome asian at least
I was positively surprised by the movie. It was definitely better than the last X-Men movie or Batman v Superman.
Watched the telecine rip yesterday, gonna see it today in cinema.
7/10, would watch again.
>>340617120
I laugh even harder at the haters who just want to be angry at eveything, unable to enjoy anything in life.
>>340617089
Not really. They are also jacked on demon magic and i think they also took some kind of blood oath or whatever? I mean they are not called blood elves just because.
>>340606894
Why?
The movie was fucking horrible.
>>340617348
t. fat Warcraft nerd
>Hear about this
>Extremely cynical
>OMG ANON WHY ARE YOU SO CYNICAL
>Because Metzen is a hack writer
>Because they'll probably shit on the lore
>Because video game movies have a garbage track record
>Dude proceeds to straight up use the "How do you know it's shit if it hasn't come out yet" argument.
I can't live among normal society anymore, they just gobble shit up so fast without thinking critically.
>>340617290
Orgrim is still alive so i don't think they'd stray that far from the lore.
>>340617443
t. contrarian 4chan nerd
>>340617443
T.fatter NEET omega
>>340617460
>he has friends who knew this shit movie existed
>>340617394
yeah but genetically they are still high elves is what I meant
>>340617460
Cynical AND self-absorbed, how disgusting.
>>340617529
Contrarian implies the majority likes this garbage.
Only fat Warcraft nerds liked it.
>>340617537
You are unironically defending a videogame movie, a shitty fantasy videogame movie at that.
You don't get to call anyone a neet.
>>340616760
Probably, just turn your brain off on shit like this my man, ethnic divergence makes no sense in Warcraft anyway.
>>340617537
>Warcraft cunt calling others NEETs
HAHAHAHA
>respected the source material
learn to bait better
>>340617584
Im not self absorbed it happens so often now.
I'm so sick of the "Just turn your brain off and have fun XD" mentality people have and condemn others for not having.
>>340616594
Thrall gets fucked hard in the ass in Legion for that, anon.
>>340617460
You are to cynical to function anyway
Metzen was a consultant in the script not a writer, and your detention on "shitting on lore" could be something as trivial like making the Orcs 1,9 metres instead of 2 meters and this movie had good people behind it
>>340617589
No, only edgy anomalous such as yourself hate it, general audience liked it, fans liked it.
Oh also China basically secured a sequel for this movie, deal with it nerd.
>>340615245
good to know, i guess
>>340617595
That subscription isn't paying itself
>>340605134
>Respected the source material for the most part
you already lost it there
the story is completely different
>>340617725
>general audience liked it
Source?
>Oh also China basically secured a sequel for this movie
Ah, so it takes the highest spot, with Transformers 4 on the second spot, and Avengers 2 on the third.
This is how I know how great Warcraft is, considering this is the only audience watching it.
>>340616760
>elves are just humans with glowing eyes and long ears
just like I imagine it
>>340617725
>fans liked it
yeah they sure did love all the rape
>>340615492
Everyone agrees with you, anon.
>>340616760
>Warcraft China Box Office Tops $90 Million in Two Days
>wahh why are there gooks in the movie
because they are the atrget audience
>>340617693
Your fedora is obstructing your blood flow to the brain. Cry some more about people having fun, it sure proves your superiority.
>>340617725
>everyone liked this videogame movie
t. virgin
>>340617857
god damn, china is going to destroy movies.
critics are starting to see it happen
>>340617460
You know nobody though that the lego movie was going to be good, and that was based on toys which has a worst movie record
>>340617893
nice argument fagtron, try harder
>>340617779
It's actually doing very well every besides the US
>>340617936
>very well outside of china
lol
>>340617703
Is it specifically stated that it's because he cheated?
>>340605134I liked it a lot
>>340617348
Would you enjoy it if I took a massive shit on your chest?
>>340617779
It's not only China chucklefuck. I just mentioned China because I know it triggers memers like you to know that your whining won't matter in the end and we're getting the full trilogy. Maybe even more.
>>340617994
Yes.
The elements are mad at him and tell him to fuck off.
That's why you get Doomhammer.
>>340617994
Yes
>>340617926
China is literally the last resort for trash movies like WoW or Tranformer or did you hear anybody say something about Star Wars and china no? Because they made so much more money in the west they don't need to say b-b-ut look at China we make money p-please watch our movie.
>>340617979
Yea it did
>>340617725
This is the Warcraft audience.
Nithing but fat and skinny nerds.
>>340618103
Not an argument.
>>340618032
No and I fail to see how that is relevant to the topic at hand.
>>340618049
>>340618080
Well color me surprised.
It's still stupid players get the Doomhammer, though. Also doesn't Tirion get punked by some random demon so players can get Ashbringer?
>>340618035
>we're getting the full trilogy
The only source of this are fat Warcraft virgins though.
>tfw we will never get the original Warcraft movie that was cancelled before the script was thrown out by Duncan
What could have been...
>>340605134
>Weird pacing
Well, they did cut 40 minutes.
>>340618127
your arguments are not better
>>340617760
Nah m8, when's your mother free? I need to get my dick sucked
>>340618127
What are yours?
You are just a nerd.
>>340618228
Says the fat nerd.
>>340618217
Awww, poor Zowie Bowie.
>>340618131
because you are saying if something is shit you should still enjoy it and just lol XD about it. So I firmly believe that if I took a long, winding, stinky shit on your chest that you would enjoy it since you enjoy shit.
>>340618148
I love how desperate memers get when things don't go full tortanic.
>>340618184
That's not an excuse.
>>340618253
I'm not, I don't watch videogame movies.
>>340618217
noice
now get on that extended cut you c0nt
>>340618329
No, you only post on a mongolian knitting forum, which is worse.
One of the worst flicks I've watched this decade.
Amazing how low the production value was considering it costed 160 million.
Where did that money go?
>>340618437
marketing.
>>340618142
Tirion melts infellava.
>>340618437
marketing
if you watch youtube without adblock you will see hundreds of warcraft movie trailers.
of course i don't know anyone who would do that
>Warcraft makes its money back before even releasing in America
Disney btfo
haters btfo
memers btfo
>>340618557
I'm glad a good movie will now get a sequel
>>340618557
Who cares how much money it makes. The question is whether it's a good movie or not.
>>340618557
Whats up with Warcraft nerds being this obsessed with Disney?
>>340618557
>saved from disaster by China
>doesn't change the fact it's a shit show.
Do you get a free game license with the ticket or was that only for france?
>>340618557
why is china all of a sudden going to movies?
did their ruler decide that they have to go see movies to keep them entertained so they can work better in their sweat shops between 5 hour long car trips to work?
>>340618557
>Civil War
>1.2 billion
>Zootopia
>1 billion
>Jungle Book
>900 million
>Rogue One
>will probably get another billion
Poor Disney.
>>340618557
>disney btfo
oh, no poor disney.
isn't legendary films a chinese company?
>>340618557
>yet abother garbage movie makes money
I've grown numb to this.
>>340618557
>168 million
>+90 million are from China alone.
If not for China this movie would have flopped hard.
>>340617857
Rip the white race huh also so many chinks here
>>340618861
That's how you know a movie is awful, China only likes garbage.
Transformers 4 wasn't an underperforming flop because of them.
>>340618861
next movie is probably going to only feature in china while being direct to redbox/netflix in the rest of the world
It seemed like it almost could've been good. The orcs were cool. I gave up 20 minutes from the end though, shit was starting to really drag.
>>340618647
the people that made it WTF u think they made it for you?
i can even understand how people think
>>340618931
i was took a look at the run time when they finally got to the final battle and was annoyed by there was still 30 minutes left in the movie.
>>340605134
>Weird pacing
>Khadgar was a little bitch
>Before time began there was ... THE CUBE
>Ogrim got changed a LOT
>Implies Garrona is half human, even though they hadn't gone to azeroth, stop implying she is half human when she is half Draeni
>Dwarves and Elves looked horrendous
>Many characters had no development, especially on the human side
>Were we meant to feel bad about lothars son?
>Medivh going full on demon form at the end and the Golem fight all felt shit
The orks looked and felt cool though
>>340618746
>tfw Disney has the 3 highest grossing movies of the year
Based.
I just finished watching it. My knowledge of Warcraft begins with WoW Vanilla and ends with WoD plus tidbits of information I looked up on the wiki about characters and factions. I got some questions.
Does Fel make Orcs turn green? Are they all supposed to be red? Or is it a genetic/different tribes kind of deal.
Are the Kirin Tor baddies or not? I figured the one you fight in WoW are like fanatics or something. But in the movie he doesn't really score points by saying he was an apprentice of the Kirin Tor.
What's the deal with Korona(?) exactly? Is she an orc? or some kind of hybrid? Why does she look so human-like?
Are Night Elves already a thing?
Are trolls already a thing?
Goblins?
Are mages/warlocks supposed to be something rare in the lore? I thought the Alliance army had like battlemages enlisted. I mean, I figured that a big reason why big buff orcs don't simply crush puny human armies was because humans are more proficient with the arcane so they have heavyhitting mages n shit.
is it prime time in asia right now lol
>making movies for china
yeah fucking right nigger
>>340618909
Not that much.
Transformers 4 got its budget back on US ground alone.
The other 800 million were just bonus. The entire world has shit taste even with China being the biggest market with $320,000,000 out of $858,614,996 foreign territories.
>>340618085
Hey fuck you cunt, China saved Pacific Rim because western shithead went to see an horrible Adam Sandler movie instead
>>340618198
If you want your dick sucked then go ask your dad seeing how he's the best.
>>340618746
b-b-but MUH WWARFCAFT WTCH THE MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>340619119
>people watching Adam Sandler movies post-2006
Nice try.
>>340619086
>these questions
Jesus, I thought WoWbabbies being retards was a meme.
>>340619119
another chink spotted
>>340615474
fuck off fag ragnar is a badass
>>340619080
>stop implying she is half human when she is half Draenishe's medivh's daughter now
>>340618746
>Rouge one
>Success
Given the recent news I wouldn't hold my hopes for that movie, not that I had any. I refuse to accept that Kyle got deleted for some teenage cockwhore.
>>340619216
>badass
Leave underage kid.
>>340619093
kek it is 5:50 PM
these chinks should stick to copying shit not buying shit
>>340619243
It's Star Wars, TFA was a 6/10 and it's the third highest grossing movie of all time.
>>340619086
>Does Fel make Orcs turn green?
Yes, and too much fel makes them red.
>Are the Kirin Tor baddies or not?
Shady nice guys
>What's the deal with Korona(?) exactly? Is she an orc? or some kind of hybrid? Why does she look so human-like?
Half-orc
>Are Night Elves already a thing?
>Are trolls already a thing?
>Goblins?
yes
>Are mages/warlocks supposed to be something rare in the lore?
not that much, but not that common either
>>340619152
That's reality, in the USA people went to see grown ups (or was it the sequel) instead of pacific rim.
>>340619216
guy looks like he's drunk and makes weird faces
>>340619175
How about you answer them instead of shitposting. If you can, that is.
>>340618746
>jungle book
it didnt really make that much money right?
right?
Theres a shot of nice Elf female tits when King Llane has all those dudes in the castle for a meeting. Its after the montage of orcs burning down like 4 towns I think.
Anyone who torrented can post a screenshot?
>>340619343
adam sandler fans make even adam sandler sick
>>340619086
Demon blood corrupts Orcs
Kirin Tor is a neutral group of mages, they pretty much just fuck about
I assume you mean Garona? I haven't seen the movie, in the game she was a half human and later retconned to half Draenei
Night Elves are old as fug, so are Trolls and Goblins
>>340605134
Bowie's son must be in full JUST mode now, first his father dies and then his movie is shit
>>340619312
We will just have to wait and see.
But I want it to be a massive failure because of Kyle
>>340619391
Yes, that literally-what movie made more than Batman v Superman.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=junglebook2015.htm
>>340619403
Yea i hope he can bounce back from this very profitable film
>>340618742
I believe China allows few foreign films in their theaters every year. So only big name films get slots. WarCraft may not have 60 years of ubiquitous history like DC and Marvel, but it is still a big name.
>>340619482
I've seen this exact same post in /tv/ a few days ago.
>>340619508
of course it's a big name
millions of those fuckers ruin servers every fucking day
>>340619546
Yea i say it every time someone implies that this jeopardizes Duncans career
It's funny
Meanwhile in the town of Birdville.
>>340606558
Serious question: why would they do that? If they have an established source material, why would they change it for the movie? What's the idea behind it? From my point of view it's just stupid since the fans will hate it and non-fans won't care either way.
>>340618997
Yeah, it felt like they'd done the big climax 3 times already, and when I saw that there was still more movie to sit through I just couldn't give a shit any more.
>>340619403
>JUST
Just what? Justice? Justin Timberlake ? Justin Bieber? Justinian? Justified? juster?
Speak with proper words damn it
>those draenei prisoners at the start
I literally said "fucking Auschwitz all over again" out loud really loud when they showed those poor skeletal fucks. An old man beside me chuckled. Couldnt have just one of them not be near-starved to death could they?
Also, there were a surprising amount of old people in the theater. I dont know why. Like a solid 50/50 split between over 50 and under 30.
>>340607087
the ones that moved from the portal yes, there still a fuck ton left behind in the diying world.
>>340619749
are you so indoctrinated by /pol/ that just seeing starved POWs is enough to trigger you?
jesus
>>340619448
>Jungle book
>literally-what movie
Are you underage or just very stupid?
>than Batman v Superman.
One had barman and superman, the other had Christopher Walken as a giant singing great ape. The choice of which to watch is obvious
>>340611384
Makes me wonder if they will touch the lore of 3 at all, when the Orc's become the main characters and actually save the world from the undead.
>>340619749
oy vey it's anudda shoah
Maybe its just me, but when I remember playing the RTS games, I remember WC1 enough, I remember all of WC3 fine, but WC2 is literally the vaguest shit. I remember Death Knights, Red Dragons, Ogres and Boats and some Zeppelins I think.
No matter what I do I cant remember that game.
>>340615492
>Huur I, the King, will let you, the halfblood slave whore, murder me to save your life
Oh yeah, this was the other thing that made me give up. The humans were all way too nice to Garona in general, practically treating her like family from day 1. If their trust of her had been built to it might've mattered more.
>>340619651
Because what workes in games might not work in movies
>>340619749
The 90's were a different time, video games weren't exclusive for teens and 20-somethings.
>>340619749
maybe they played vidya back then. If you were 18 when warcraft came out you'd be 40 this year
>Action sequences were done very well
Yeah I really liked that memorable scene where they hit each other.
The action scenes were some of the worst parts of the movie, nothing distinguished them from each other besides their order.
>Uhhh, only 6 inches?
How do you respond?
>>340619921
but the movie is not based on the 90's stuff it's based on nu-wow or did WC1 had draenei?
>>340619907
Most of the lore is not in the video games, so I don't buy that explanation in this specific case.
>>340619826
I dont buy into /pol/ and their bullshit anon, but maybe I could try.
Fuckin zap the life right out of those exiled blue space goats tainting that orcish homeworld with their crystals and bullshit light worship.
That portal shoulda been
TEN
FEET
TALLER
>>340620045
draenei are barely in the movie anyway
>>340619080
>Argh!!! He dropped a golem on me!! My one weakness as the Guardian of Tirisfal being in full demon mode!
>Argh!!! He slid between my legs! My one weakness!
They clearly had no fucking idea how to handle the fights where it was real person vs CGI and just cheaped out. Giga Nigga vs Green Giga Nigga was the only passable one as it was all CGI so they didn't need to worry about that.
>>340620027
Um, it's 5 actually...
>>340619883
Duncan said no, Arthas story is for someone else
>>340619616
No, but critical bombs do.
Batman v Superman was a success, but it's critical reception made all of WB to get restructured and the entirety of t he DCEU to be replanned.
>>340619749
>talking loudly in a theater
Please fuck off forever.
>>340620045
the draenei were mentioned in the manual for Warcraft 2, but they were described more like the arakkoa than the draenei we have now
>>340620027
6.7, thank you very much.
>he wants to lay with me
And then it becomes a randomly "sad scene" for no reason.
>>340619651
Make characters they want movie goers to like better. Gives more diversity in the cast to widen their demographic. Despite some characters are literal shit bags in the game/book
>>340605134
you can get an idea of how shitty the story of the movie was and how much they disregarded the lore of warcraft, by the fact that this was supposed to be the story of the first war, and of how the orcs ended up on azeroth fighting the humans and there was
>no mention of kil'jaeden
>no mention of ner'zhul
>no mention of sargeras
>no mention of the draenei's backstory
>no mention of the orcs inherent bloodlust
>the orcs don't drink the blood of mannoroth to become corrupted
here is a general rundown of the backstory to the events that the movie was supposed to depict
There was a race called the Titans, they traveled through the universe. They traveled from planet to planet and brought order to chaos. They had a champion named Sargeras. He went through the universe looking for evil creatures and imprisoning them. He does this for such a long time, that he starts to question his quest. He starts to wonder whether there is actually a point to bringing order to the universe when the only constant in the universe seems to be chaos. He is driven mad by this and frees the demons he imprisoned, forms the Burning Legion with the goal of burning the whole universe down and undoing the work of the Titans.
One of the first things he does is go to a planet called Argus and recruit a race called the Eredar. The Eredar are masters of magic, and he sees in them formidable lieutenants for his army. He approaches them with an offer. Two of the three leaders of the Eredar accept his offer. Archimonde and Kil'jaeden, and a majority of the Eredar get turned into demons and join the Burning Crusade. The third leader, the Prophet Velen, has a vision brought to him by mystical creatures of light, called the Naaru, that warns him of the evil of Sargeras and his "gift", and makes him decide to turn down the offer, take the few Eredar that rejected the offer as well, and run.
>>340620184
they literally had no description besides having fields
>>340620045
The movie is based on the lore, which was written around the games. Movie = first war = wc1 = 1994.
>>340605134
>>340620212
They travel from planet to planet in their spaceship, and the Burning Legion follows them everywhere, destroying everything in their path, set on punishing that small group of Eredar that dared to reject the offer of Sargeras. This small group of Eredar starts to call themselves the Draenei, "exiled ones" in their language.
While looking for the Draenei, they come upon the planet of Azeroth. With the help of the Night Elven queen Azshara and the Highborne, Sargeras plans to use the Well of Eternity, a vast fount of power, as a gateway to enter Azeroth. His plans are thwarted at the last minute by the combined forces of the Night Elves, the Ancients, Furbolg and even Tauren.
About 10000 years later, the Burning Legion finally closes in on the Draenei, They have settled on a planet they have called Draenor, after them. This planet is shared by a race of brown-skinned orcs, shamanistic people, that live in relative peace among each other and with the Draenei. Changing their tactics from brute force to cunning trickery, the Burning Legion decides to try and use the orcs as an instrument, not only to punish the Draenei, but also as a force to be sent to Azeroth, to weaken their forces for the inevitable second invasion of the Burning Legion.
If you show this backstory to anyone who has watched the movie, do you think they would feel you're talking about the same movie? Of course to everyone who has watched the movie and isn't familiar with Warcraft the movie just looked like a poor version of Lord of the Rings, with bad acting, bad characters and a boring plot.
And I know that that is just what orcs and humans was, but warcraft has expanded since orcs and humans, and the beginning of the story would've pretty much been Rise of the Horde, and they should've started there.
>>340620212
>>no mention of kil'jaeden
>>no mention of ner'zhul
>>no mention of sargeras
>>no mention of the draenei's backstory
>>no mention of the orcs inherent bloodlust
>>the orcs don't drink the blood of mannoroth to become corrupted
All of that is irrelevant to the First war. The first war is about orcs attacking a human kingdom
>>340620261
nope it's not the movie is based on WoD timeline.
>>340605134
>>340620212
>>340620269
>start with ner'zhul and how he was tricked
>tell the story of how the horde formed
>show the orcs drinking the blood of mannoroth
>focus the whole movie on the genocide of the draenei
>the movie ends with the horde being ready to invade azeroth, and a concered durotan thinking "what have we become"... maybe show them invading azeroth through the portal at the end and end on that note
>make the movie full CGI cause there are no humans in this anyway
then the next movie after that could've been based on The Last Guardian, showing the history of the guardian of tirisfal, focussing on the humans etc.
this could've been a great movie
instead we got a movie devoid of anything that made the warcraft lore so interesting in the first place
>>340620027
Is it me or did they just give her plastic vampire teeth
>>340620119
>My one weakness as the Guardian of Tirisfal being in full demon mode!
gravity beats all
And what defeated him was the light magic that Khadgar used.
>>340620283
no it is not
it's just complete different like comic movies
>>340620282
read the whole thing you nigger
and no it is not irrelevant
what or who is the guardian?
you leave the audience completely confused when you don't explain it, and you can't explain it without sargeras and the burning legion
>>340620212
>>340620269
Dudes they cut 40 MINUTES from the movie. How the hell can you expect them to fill even more
>>340620212
>no mention of kil'jaeden
There was
>no mention of ner'zhul
No reason to do it
>no mention of sargeras
They hinted at it
>no mention of the draenei's backstory
Irrelevant
>no mention of the orcs inherent bloodlust
The movie made that clear enough without having to mention it
>>340620360
>read the whole thing you nigger
I don't care I already know the lore
But you don't need to start from the fucking titans, Warcraft I had a story without having to mention them
>>340620379
those 40 minutes were probably more boring shit
they completely changed the whole story of warcraft so what would those 40 minutes have done?
they wouldn't have explained the backstory of sargeras and the draenei in that
>>340620212
>want a wc1 story filled with shit that came about many fucking years after wc1 was released
The titans and the draenei and all their things dont have anything to do with orcs and humans fisticuffing through azeroth except where tangentially aligned by things that only get uncovered waaay down the line.
Might as well have the sequel movie (if any) be about arthas and illidan tagteam wrestling archimonde in hyjal with tyrande and jaina as hypegirls wearing thongs and a sign saying "wc2 happened somewhere"
>>340620436
>were probably
shut up
>>340620412
>There was
there wasn't
give me a quote
>Irrelevant
you are irrelevant
>>340620489
>The titans and the draenei and all their things dont have anything to do with orcs and humans fisticuffing through azeroth
yeah you don't know what you are talking about
read rise of the horde
>>340620491
blizzdrone on suicide watch
>>340620313
>>340620269
>>340620212
This is why you don't let fans make movies, you can't focus on what makes a good story and instead you wank off to the lore.
Remember what Warcraft 1 was, in it's essence. It was about Orcs and Humans. That's it.
>>340620360
You don't have to mention Sargeras or the legion to explain the guardian, normal Demons will do.
>>340620436
Because the backstory of Sargeras and Draenei is irrelevant to this story and nobody in the movie would know.
>>340620502
>give me a quote
Oh my god Lothar. a Kil'jaeden!
>>340620282
>orcs attacking a human kingdom
And they don't get to that either.
They fight some humans and burn small settlements, no stormwind attack ar all
>>340620552
>read rise of the horde
One can literally play Warcraft I without having to read that book you double nigger
>>340620212
>>340620269
>>340620313
And you think that any of this is interesting?
That would be like 20/30 minutes of the first movie just having some irrelevant demon big-bad run around recruiting other irrelevant races to be pawns in a small fight between orcs and humans.
If you got your way we would literally have a fucking Star Wars wall of text before the movie begins.
>>340620502
>Who taught Gul'dan how to use fel magic
>A demon
>Did you see him?
>No but he had a voice like fire and ash
Did you miss that little exchange?
>>340620502
KJ wasnt named but Garona mentioned that GulDan was in the service of a great demon whose evil presence was massive and felt like burning ash or something like that.
If anything the extra time should be used to slow down the pacing and introduce characters better
not add in more bullshit
>>340620668
>If you got your way we would literally have a fucking Star Wars wall of text before the movie begins.
just do it the way they did in lord of the ring with sauron
this can easily be explained in a few minutes to set up the genocide of the draenei
rise of the horde was infinitely more interesting than this
>>340620739
Add a sphere macguffin to explain the rest.
Or give the cube 10 more minutes.
The writing is already bad enough with the changes they did make
>>340620027
Fuck off you ugly orc.
>>340605134
I'm glad I torrented that shit.
Uwe Boll probably could have made a more entertaining movie out of it than that retarded SJW mess.
>>340620707
so he wasn't mentioned, period
instead they just vaguely talked about some demon
>>340620704
no I didn't fag
and they never mentioned kil'jaeden, sargeras or mannoroth, they just vaguely talked about some demon
could as well have been medivh in his "demon form"
since this story is changed anyway, there might not even exist a burning legion in there
they always just vaguely talk about "the fel"
>>340620824
>a book with a fuckton of detail is more interesting than a 2 hour movie where time is limited
Yeah no shit, and water is wet.
>>340621003
you can make a cool and interesting movie out of rise of the horde, or any of the other warcraft books for that matter
protip: don't change the story
>>340620631
>playing bad c&c
no thanks
>>340620976
So what youre saying is youre literally just going to think whatever you want no matter what someone says even when youre prove wrong because it wasnt specific enough of a being proved wrong.
Okay then. Be a little bitch.
>>340605134
Cons
>Blizzard Entertainment Post-2008
>Feels like modern World of Warcraft.
>Racemixing
>Half-breed orc looks like an alien from Star Trek.
>Orc Lives Matter
>>340621115
Go back to /pol/ Trumpcuck.
>>340620976
Look I give you mannoroth, but Kiljaden and Sargeras don't have to be named in this movie.
>>340621147
>>340621057
Protip: when adapting something then the story has to be changed
>>340621173
Go back.
>>340621228
you first
>>340621147
Kill yourself, faggot.
>>340620915
This, takes itself way too seriously.
Uwe Boll's garbage is at least fun in the sense that it's completely retarded, like Michael Bay movies taken to the extreme.
>>340621351
kek, triggered /pol/cuck
>>340605134
>great display of the Orcs
>just about all the good Orcs are killed off
At least Doomhammer and Thrall will be in the next one.
>>340621547
I hope we get more Grom.
>>340606765
>background characters sometimes look like they're legit concerned they fake punched another actor
I saw an Alliance soldier get hit in the shield and wait for an Orc to smash his head in.
But this is the Alliance we're talking about.
>some of the worst cgi I've ever seen
Oh, so you didn't see the movie. K.
>>340606656
>>The god-awful brown orcs
What did he mean by this?
>>340619749
>see all those Draenai in cages
>see them get sucked into nothingness to open the portal
best part of the film tbqh senpai
>>340619086
As long as there's female goblin erotica in the coming sequels, I'm happy and fappy.
>>340620027
TELL ME ABOUT BANE, WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
>>340606189
I wanna fuck Draka's wet pussy and then cum on her face...
>>340618931
did you at least see the duel between gul'dan and durotan? Since that was the best part of the movie
>>340615146
>>340615195
Literally best part of the movie
>>340607702
There is a TC rip out, very watchable!
>Warcraft 2016 TC x264 AAC-ETRG
>>340611184
Literally everywhere, stop being a pleb!
>>340611562
Hows school treating you kid? :)
>>340610757
Yeah he showed up a few times, in Guldans tent, when Garrona killed the king, he was also the first orc to block guldan from pursuing Ragnar.
I did miss Nerzhul though, im hoping they introduce him and flesh him out a bit in warcraft 2
>>340623871
ur only about 3 hours late newfag
>>340616760
i guess they will be doing karate in part 2
>>340613045
>a video game developer rules that books are more canon than their own games
I think Blizzard is the first company to ever outsource their own canon completely. Shouldn't they get a spot in Guinness or something for that?
>>340616780
>what i didn't like was they fucking blew off his fucking apprenticeship with fucking medivh
what
>>340617789
>asians
>humans
>>340617857
china
>atrget audience
not 1 famous chinese actor
you wish you were fucking goook only good for stealing copying and eat sewer shit
>>340605134
>>Visuals were great
0/10
>>340606436
>future movie
>>340620027
"I have a big arm for you."
*proceeds to fist Garona*
>>340620282
>All of that is irrelevant to the First war
no nigga
the whole legion shit could be left out, but core figures like medivh and ner'zhul can not. core elements like demons (orcs even used summoned demons as units in wc1) and their influence on the orcs through gul'dan must be there, too.
as it stands, this movie has retconned and omitted so much shit, making sequels that in any way resemble actual warcraft is now nearly impossible.
retards replying to 4hour ago thread
>>340605134
Mediocre movie at best. Some of your pros honestly aren't pros. Music was okay while cinematography being average shouldn't be a pro.
>>340624460
>active discussion should suddenly stop because of the thread's creation date
You're retarded
>>340607879
This.
>>340616760
>you can clearly see his 5 o clock shadow while the other two are cleanly shaven
>>340624589
>replying to 3 hours messages
You're retarded
>>340605134
Cons
>The source material is warcraft
>>340620824
they dont have to do all that stuff in the first movie. they can introduce all that stuff later, just as the games did.
except now they cant, because the movie they made is inconsistent with half of the established lore and storyline of the warcraft rts series.
>orcs are brown except for gul'dan and thrall
>no demon blood to be found anywhere
>gul'dan is pretty much the god emperor of orckind who directly issues commands to everybody, blackhand is completely irrelevant
>>340605134
Why didn't the Orcs just move to Nagrand?
>>340624752
>implying I responded to anyone other than you
>implying I didn't just get here
>implying you're not butthurt over nothing
>>340618746
At this rate they won't even be able to afford Pooh's honey! Poor Disney.
>>340620269
TBC ruined what good the warcraft story had going for it. World building and story telling was never the strong suit of Warcraft but what it did have was good enough to set up the back drop of a video game and make some characters feel bad ass. After TBC, instead of orcs overcoming their Savage nature through leadership, necessity, and social advancement we just have wonderful, perfect, peace-loving orcs that just happened to be corrupted and then corrupted again. Every damn plot point in that game has been reduced to "it/they were evil due to corruption, no real motivation other than that"
>>340620027
What's with her neck? Did the orcs not want to her tusks to stab their dicks so they opened up a new hole for deep throat? There's at least two so either orc cock's are smaller than they let on or she got retconned into a druid and got giraffe form for 5 man parties.
>>340619651
Because it has to follow hollywoodjew agenda
prepare for the worst because this movie as shit as it is will make a shiton of money on the name alone
Jews will want to tighten their grip on video games even more
>>340624318
It's chinese studio
Most of fanbase is chinks.
>>340620027
Only 22%?
>live action sloppily super imposed onto CGI
>the fucking costumes were tailored to match the ingame models; meaning that they're proportioned to fit on the cartoony style human ingame models and not a real person
Just holy fuck, what an oversight. You can't just remake those ingame costumes and stick them on an actual person without adjusting the proportions. No human being is shaped like those ingame models; WoW doesn't use a photo realistic art style.
>>340608073
>Blood elves
>Red
What the fuck are you talking about, their clothing? The only thing that differentiates Blood elves from high elves is that their eyes glow green and not blue.
>>340626448
Not really, Night Elves are taller and have different bone structure than Blood Elves.
>>340626554
>Night Elves
>>340605134
You forgot the part where they cut scenes from the movie.
The only good thing about that piece of garbage is CGI.
>>340605134
Holy shit that was bad. Like really fucking bad. I thought the low reviewer scores were out of touches but no. Blizzard literally blew all their budget on orcs and said fuck it to everything else.
Abysmal acting performance, fake as hell costumes, shitty story.
Some people are seriously defending this?
Torrent it if you are curious or just don't bother. It's shit.
lol at the chinks who think this movie was for them
holy shit thats hilarious you people know like 2/3 of chinks are poor or
>>340626669
Does anyone remember when they were just elves?
>>340616665
dis nigga knows
>>340624350
Chinese box office will save it like it saved Pacific Rim
>>340615474
As much as I love the actor that plays Ragnar Lodbrok, there is no way he would fit as a Warcraft human.
So why the fuck was Stormwind not razed?
>>340627119
Not enough resources.
>>340626554
>>340626448
You know what I don't get? How Elves use to be trolls, it seems everything on Azeroth use to be a troll
>>340627486
Kinda makes sense, the troll model looks like a severely retarded night elf.
>>340619546
They'd be stupid not to shill it here.
>>340619546
>Will it be the franchise to finally kill off capeshit
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA.
>>340625652
she had a iron collar
>Music was top tier
You mean the only single song that played over and over until the fucking credits, when everybody is leaving and THEN they decide to play the full orchestral Warcraft theme from the games?
Shamefur dispray.
>people saying that was bad CGI
You haven't seen movies that made many times their budget with way worse CGI.
>>340619906
Yeah this frustrated me, the captured invading alien enemy was treated like an equal from day 1 and within a couple days was let out of her cage and was promised a nice happy life with them, no wonder the orcs thought the humans were shit
>>340630307
That entire fucking movie looked like dos Wing Commander. Check out Dooku's feet in the backgrounds near the end, no shadow, they just kinda float. Some of the backgrounds were even still images.
>>340630237
>>340630307
You forget the context for the prequels. They looked pretty damn good for their release. They were just horrendously written and acted.
>>340630237
Other movies having bad cgi doesn't make Warcraft's cgi any better
>>340630554
They looked like shit even on release.
I remember my original viewing of the first one, after all of the incredible, disgusting hype I had.
ironically, I thought the story was okay, and only grew to hate it and the acting on repeated viewings.
But even 10 minutes after the movie was done, I was saying I dislike the special effects, and the obvious green screens. The guys I saw it with agreed.
>>340630554
Episode 2 never looked good.
>>340630307
>>340630237
This looks way worse than what it used to look like.
Doesn't look as polished definitely.
New thread where
>>340630515
The last few seconds of that .... Boy do I wanna face fuck her
>>340630237
Look like Syberia 1.
>>340630669
its weird because Episode 1 didn't nearly rely on CGI as much.
Lucas got lazy in his 3 movie stretch, which he also grew bored of making partway through Episode 1.
>>340605134
>pacing issue
I think this was due to limited time allotted. The director said he had to delete nearly 40 minutes of footage. The movie is around 2 hours long.
So I'd expect a director's uncut version would be more solid in pacing, however I dont know by how much.
>>340630307
>>340630237
Dude for 14 years ago... that isn't THAT bad, warcraft CGI seemed all over the place, at times I thought Durotan and other orcs looked incredible and then randomly some scenes everything looked really cartoony and crap
Not even CGI but the human armour... holy fuck does that look awful, so plastic
>>340608540
God damn ogre sized orcs.
>>340630515
Resident evil is looking weirder every installment.
>>340630734
>This looks way worse than what it used to look like.
It looks the same, dummy. You just know better.
>>340609915
Since World of Warcraft they've been increasing the size of the orcs a lot.
I think slightly in wc3 as well, but in WoW they started looking like the Hulk.
>>340630946
Two choices, really. Either make it true to the games, and thus shit, or make it better, and thus cause nerd outrage.
Warcraft armor is just generally retarded.
>>340609915
Orcs used to be green humans, just more mongol like.
Its mostly with WoW that they became Buff McHuge.
Trolls had the opposite evolution, from D&D hueg trolls, to the skinny jamacans they are now.
>>340605134
>humans boring as fuck
>garrona isn't more lore fucked and forced love story shit
>Action sequences are fucking corny other than when hoomies getting smashed by orcs in a big battle
>Pacing is fucked
>Way too much jumping around cuts
>Music was decent at best
I mean for the 10 buck early screening two nights ago it was okay. But it's still gonna end up in bargain bins in 6 months and is not by any stretch what a video game movie should be.
Since Mediv was possesed by Sargeras can we assume that the Demon Mediv we see in the end is what Sargeras looks like?
>>340631085
If they had just made it look metal, it looked like plastic and Styrofoam throughout most the film, these guys cosplayed (small pic im afraid) but they look better than the actual high budget film
>>340605134
>>Music was top tier
What music?
>>340610831
>>340610757
well he wouldn't, Grom wasn't really much a thing in Warcraft 1.
>>340631284
You can't make this look metal, even if you make it out of metal. The rational human mind will just assume this huge thing to not be steel, because it makes no sense.
I am sure that people who aren't into history or such won't be bothered.
Why do they say "Zog zog!"?
Are they jews?
>>340631398
I'm not sure if he even crossed over into azeroth until after the horde failed in the 2nd war.
>>340613423
Why is his chin tattoo so weak? I remember him just having a completely black lower jaw.
>>340606384
>roar le angry nerd u ruined mi Warcraft lore D:<
>>340606746
The one thing that weirded me out about the High Elves were their fucking teeth. Why were they so goddamn awful looking? Like, it's just one of those things that absolutely does not matter, but for some reason its one of the small things that bugged me the most.
>>340631475
Zog was the king of Albania during the great wars.
Maybe they are albanians, worshiping their leader?
>orcs too big
>humans have to rely on guns in the first war
>humans don't lose
>Garonas too old for it to be the initial raiding
>Dalaran is flying
>brown orcs
>alliance in the first war
>>340631490
WoD changed it to be more intricate and less "just straight black".
which makes sense, they use swirling tribal shit, no way they would just tattoo his whole chin black.
>>340632237
I just wish he'd be a smaller, skinnier orc, who is in charge because of how fierce and loud he is, and how well he fights.
Don't like the big huge Grom, even if he is better suited for the lore. Much prefer the crazy fierce agile fighter I first assumed him to be.
For PG-13, was anyone else as surprised as I was at the level of gore?
>>340631085
>Two choices, really. Either make it true to the games
It doesn't look like the ones from the game
>>340632378
Pirahna 3D was PG 13.
>>340632330
well he is far skinnier than OTHER Orcs
>>340632767
>fair skin
>>340632472
thats Lorderon Armor, bitch.
not Storm Wind.
>>340632856
um in wow they still wear full plate
Warcraft 1 and 3 footmen are essentially hte same
>>340633134
and Lothar doesn't, or isn't right now.
>>340615474
Literally the best part of the movie. He's so goddamn charming
>>340633295
>and Lothar doesn't,
um how is this even possible