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How is FFXIV right now?
>>340598061
Enough ass grabbers to still make threads about it where as every other mmo sticks to itself.
It's reddit tier shitposting the mmo. Because it's not good and a shit load of people want to feel confirmation bias over their purchase because they just picked up 11 with a new coat of paint and plays like a worse version of wow. It's the biggest joke in mmos right now.
>haven't leveled up any crafting since heavensward started
>kind of excited for Moogle Crafting as an incentive to level it
>Hey remember those god awful moogle sidequest chains that were so bad the devs apologized for how bad they were?
>well they're mandatory to even start Moogle Beast Tribe
WORLD FULL WAITING IN QUEUE.
Pretty good. If you like theme park MMOs that is. Story is nice, music is great. Gameplay is just as mind numbing as any other MMO especially if you play DPS. End game is nothing but playing dungeons/raids to gamble for better equipment.
Of course, you're gonna need friends or else suffer the pubs who can't comprehend not standing in the big glowing spaces.
Pretty bad. Almost every server has bled a significant amount of players except for a few big ones. The content is alright, but it's really just more of the same we've had in ARR and so far every attempt at something new flopped horribly.
If you still wanna play it there's things that are fun and enjoyable and there's things to do but if you didn't like it before nothing they've added since is gonna win you over.
>>340598061
Depends. If you've liked it in the past it just got a new patch with new dungeons, a new raid, more story, more Hildibrand, etc.
If you didn't like HW or never liked FFXIV at all, this current patch will likely not change your mind.
>>340598581
>plots were in high demand
>they decided to wait for a certain time before putting the server back up
>pic related
>all plots sold before halfway through queue
You would think they would randomly stagger the plot releases like "oh hey we're releasing the plots to purchase here...now." instead of all at once so jews can snatch them all up
>>340598947
For what it's worth personal houses are almost entirely useless fluff.But I have one on a high pop server so what do I know
>>340598715
It's because people are moving to the good servers while leaving the shitty ones
>>340598531
You can get them done in 30 minutes. Pucker up, faggot.
>>340599417
And why are they shitty, could it be because everybody's leaving? It's a circle that's mostly caused by the state of the game rather than player decisions.
>>340598581
>Of course, you're gonna need friends or else suffer the pubs who can't comprehend not standing in the big glowing spaces.
Fucking Ozma man. I thought japs were supposed to be good, had the other healer keep getting hot by the beam when it would transform into a pyramid. Happened like 6 times before they finally realized they should move our of the way like everyone else.
>>340598947
>Already have 3 houses on Balmung
>Not really inspired to get another, but fuck it I'll try
>Get a medium in lavender beds
>Enjoy those salty tears
What makes XIV better than WoW?
>>340599793
It has fucking auto face target.
>>340599417
I'm on one of those shitty servers, should I transfer or just make a new character?
>>340599576
They're shitty because they're not high pop and probably not legacy.
>>340599629
I never got past Fagball or whatever the emo demon's name is because mechanics are too hard for pubs
how bad is Ozma
>>340599793
Everything. The music especially.
>>340599793
>What makes XIV better than WoW?
Even less skill involvement with the combat and being tied into a sub forever because houses can't be held.
Now ask what makes Wildstar better then XIV.
The fact the game won't force you to play it if you wanna keep your shit.
>>340599996
Worse, have fun with people panicking when they get marked with an AoE and standing in the wrong place so you get hit by 3 of them.
>>340599996
Ozma's the easiest one, desu.
ffxiv is the culmination of everything wrong with mmos condensed into one game
if you play it you support killing an entire genre
>>340599996
Enjoy being wiped by one retard out of place.
>>340600112
This x1000
Best soundtrack
>>340600129
Bait
>>340600303
Like?
>>340600303
Bait
>>340600379
>>340600449
- Rewards are basically worthless and 100% completely replaced every few months. Nothing is unique, special, or actually valuable.
- Endgame is uninspired Simon Says where it's more important to know the fights' mechanics than it is to be good at your job unless they throw in a DPS check.
- Patronizingly easy content. Like... easy easy EASY. Players routinely reach high ilvl while still being clueless about how to play their class. All difficulty is artifical in the form of team-jumprope + OHKO.
- World pretty aesthetically but bland, static, and plastic with no threat or adventure. Virtually impossible to die outside.
- No risks taken with design. New content often feels like triage-mode development, trying to keep people interested.
- Zero-accountability status-quo development in keeping with SE's "you will play our game our way" mentality.
- Instances are 100% completely scripted. Fights are Identical every time you do it to the point you can run them with your eyes closed after one clear, or less if you watched a vid.
- Terrible, toxic community, likely thanks to all of the above.
- Virtually no character customizability. Truly only one "best" way to play every job in the game.
- Fastest way for players to get something they want is to not play the game thanks to SE's overnerfing everything constantly. Eg. having access to better gear AND getting absurd amounts of echo AND having mechanics watered down to the point your greatest risk of failing a run, no matter your ilvl, is of suffering a stroke in real life.
- Content and grind designed to eat up as much of people's time as possible while being just okay enough they won't get fed up. Even stuff as simple as the movement speed is -just- fast enough for most people to not get annoyed.
>>340600303
That was quite literally WoW, which you gladly supported. MMOs as a genre have already been killed, games like FFXIV which embody everything wrong with the post-WoW landscape are the result of your actions.
>>340600303
I wish there was a open do-whatever MMO that didn't take 1000 hours to even get started.
>>340600475
ffxiv literally copied everything wow did and made it shittier
there is literally no creative bone in any ffxiv game developer
>>340600303
>implying the genre isn't already dead
>>340600471
let it be known that I actually made this entire argument/post back in 2013 and it is STILL ALL COMPLETELY RELEVANT
your game sucks
it is absolutely abhorrent
>>340600565
That's the point of what I just said, WoW killed the genre, the lack of creativity and originality in modern MMOs is because of that.
>>340600471
>toxic community
There's that meme again.
>>340600798
nice way to completely ignore all the things that actually have to do with the game
you must have agreed with all of them
Its the best MMO on the market not counting the PvP.
As with all MMO, you need a good guild to enjoy things. Though the gameplay is the most fun of any other MMO. Esspeccially with WoW Legion gameplay being the dumbest its ever been.
>>340598061
I'll bite
Pretty boring if you prioritize gameplay or music over graphics/animationkeep smashing buttons to make sure to launch your spell at time to not lose dps. controller oriented so....
Plus, if you don't mind doing all the dungeons over and over on daily basis you -may- find it enjoying.
>>340600379
Scrips
Shitty tick ratio
Literally unable to cast spells because your current animation is long as fuck
Personally, something that really bothers me are the ass long loading times on every corner (I'm using 6600k with SSD for fucks sake) and forced cutscenes
MSQ kicking your balls "do NOT create alts". Every 1-2 patches they add or remove items/quests/mechanics that make you want to kill yourself for not playing on multiple characters.
>inb4 not creating multiple characters
Even if you don't like it, doesn't matter, as long as you understand the point of creating multiple characters. Even on games like PSO2 is fun to have multiple alts, unlike XIV.
>>340600857
>muh toxick cumminity
>>340600867
Trying to get used to clunky and slow ass tick-rate servers is like trying to take a knot off my throat.
>>340600471
So, its an MMO?
You what else is telling?
The fact that the threads for this game on /v/ are filled with completely newfags who have played this game for probably a couple months.
It has no longevity. People don't play this game for years like they did with WoW and other MMOs, they play it for a couple months and quit.
>>340600973
Its worth it. Depending on the class, has more depth than other MMO.
Some classes are more complicated than others, this being purposeful so anyone can find something they can enjoy.
Not saying FFXIV is perfect, only that its the best MMO there is currently and its not being dethroned anytime soon.
>>340599875
If you're trying to get on Balmung, the only way is through a world transfer - character creation is always closed. For the other worlds, you can create characters easily if you want to avoid the $18 transfer fee. Getting on more populated servers, like Gilgamesh, might require some timing, since they tend to be full. Try right after maintenance or early in the morning.
So which servers are populated/good and which are shit?
>>340600676
So you're judging the game on its current status based on what you played 3 years ago?
>>340600475
>>340600565
Hey guys I'm way the fuck over here playing Black Desert, but I just wanted to let you know that this game I'm playing is awesome and I'm having a good time without being a shit eating cunt faggot that needs to validate that their lives were ruled by poop sock faggots.
Everquest was where the train wreck started, every other theme park mmo follows the same garbage one arm bandit rules. Stop playing theme parks if you truly believe they are garbage. You let poop sock faggots set the shitty trends in mmos, not the casuals. The casuals were simply a result of a greater evil forum whiners.
>>340598410
This is actually accurate.
I played it from 2.1 to 3.1. Heavensward was dreadful and shows absolutely no sign of getting better, according to other addicts still suffering on there.
Fucking tragic.
>>340601106
Considering it has one of the fastest release schedules of any MMO, it kinda works out. People come in for a month or two, leave, then a month or two later new patch and they're back.
>>340601162
What has changed? What have they updated to make better since it became ARR 3 years ago? Nothing.
It's literally THE. SAME. EXACT. SHIT.
>>340599793
The communityjust kiding
>>340601189
>BDO dev trying to trick Amerifats into playing their latest P2W garbage semi-open world 'sandbox' MMO
Fuck off, faggot.
>>340601250
>People come in for a month or two, leave, then a month or two later new patch and they're back.
>mfw this is what I'm doing
Fuck why can't I just quit, I've been subbed for about a week and already I don't feel like playing anymore.
>>340601108
Shitty mmo that garters attention from mouth breathers doesn't make it the best just makes it the most marketable.
Black Desert is the best of the best right now, people just shit tier players in video games now so they can't handle anything that requires a fucking brain.
>>340601250
It's easy to release complete shit.
FFXIV "raids" contain the same amount of bosses as regular WoW dungeon. A single raid in WoW has more bosses than 5 ffxiv raids.
And the raids are always in a singular room. It's not hard to design that.
>>340600471
lol
>>340601265
Ah, so you're just a shitposter/sperg who's still angry and salty about a game after three fucking years and never played the content that's been added, gotcha.
>>340601207
The new raid tier, dungeons, and trial show a clear understanding of what players disliked about the initial content of Heavensward, and unlike other MMO they are actively trying to give players more and different stuff to do.
You need to stop listening to 4chan. This is the place that proclaims something shit and then ignores any and all patches, parading around old information as still current.
>>340601108I really like this meme lover skeleton
>>340601451
salty? noo...
I predicted heavensward would be shit when it was announced back in 2014
and guess what? it was
I feel vindicated.
>>340601571
3.3 content is pretty fun, you should try it. The raid is amazing.
>>340601250
There hasn't been a patch for 5 months now, they are running dry as they have copied everything else. Plagiarism and cynicism only go so far before your company begins to shit the bed.
>>340601375
>BDO
>Requiring a brain
BDO shills out in full force today.
>>340601571
>vindicated
>completely wrong
>>340601375
>black desert is the best of the best right now
You cant be serious. My god, are you this salty?
>>340601405
Yes. Compare to WoW. The game thats known for its large amount of recent engaging relevant content in all levels of the game.
>>340601571
>i said something would be shit 2 years ago, and /v/ said it's shit. my life has meaning now
>>340600471
Bait copypasta spam posted by obsessive hater
How do I make friends and an FC in this game? I never really see people talking outside of duty finder.
>>340601631
did they create a new colorful dance choreography for plays to memorize and dance to? of course they did
>>340601696
me? obsessive? I haven't regularly posted about ffxiv in like 8 months. the game is too dead to care about.
>>340601642
>Recent patch
>Took 4 months to release
FFXIV has a history of not waiting long between patches.
>>340601787
Strike up a conversation with someone.
>>340601787
you don't
the game actively makes socializing more challenging and meaningless
enjoy trying to get into a clique
>>340601106
>literally talking right out of his ass
Legacy player here. Played 1.0 and haven't unsubbed since ARR launched. The game is great.
>>340601945
Every game ever has cliques.
The playerbase is still terrible at the fucking game.
I have been in
SIX
DIFFERENT
PARTIES
and NONE OF THEM
could clear a normal mode Midas tier MONTHS after release
QUICKTHINX IS NOT THAT FUCKING HARD
KILL THE HEART AND DON'T GET HIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDon't even get me fucking started on the infuriating waste of time that was DF Ozma on day one. Not a waste of time in the sense that people were learning, a waste of time in the sense that people refused to fucking pay attention when people were telling them what they were doing wrong, or explaining mechanics multiple times over. Also, obnoxious faggots being totally nonchalant about the fact that they were bringing the entire alliance down.
>>340599996
>we get him down to like 10%
>people start getting lazy and die
>wipe
>same thing happens with ozma
>same thing happens with final boss
It took 3 times longer then it should.
>>340601972
what the fuck kind of argument is that
its like saying just because you've been eating shit since its born that means eating shit is ok
>>340598061
Been playing for two months. Completely worth trying. Each class can be played on a single character. Leveling doesn't get boring unless you simply don't like grinding, as each class has plenty of depth. It has an extremely active community both in-game and elsewhere. A new expansion may also be announced at E3, but we'll see.
>>340601132
Here's some data. Balmung and Gilgamesh are the two biggest English-speaking servers.
>>340601642
At this point, you've outed that you actually don't know what you're talking about, so I think it's best if you just drop it.
Game got a content patch last Tuesday.
If you play as a Miqo'te you are a blight and must be purged
>>340601643
Hey it's true, people are bad at video games now. You have to build an mmo for the lowest common denominator, now that WoW is losing popularity the pick up sticks show is a bunch of weeb normies latching onto the corpse of WoW which is Final Fantasy franchises, so an mmo around the garbage is just as fitting. But they can't get to boisterous for their own good that would be an Icarus situation for them so just copy one of their prior games, fix up the textures and add some fluff bam 11 turns into 14 which in turn goes into the garbage shambled corpse of the wow community.
Lowest common denominator, that's who buys this garbage. And the world is mostly made up of people shitting in the woods and in our water supply not really contributing anything worth a fuck besides a burger in a box. That's why 14 is successful.
There's always gotta be one mmo built for those brain dead jockies or they will invade any good mmo and ruin it. Like they did with Everquest and like they did with WoW.
XIV just skipped the step of normies letting them butt fuck the game to death and made it exclusively for them.
>>340602023
of course it is, it's evident when a top 500 WoW guild can go to ffxiv and become a top 10 guild there
>>340601207
>>340601207
>Heavensward was dreadful and shows absolutely no sign of getting better
Complete bullshit.
>>340601945
>game actively makes socializing more challenging and meaningless
How so? It's kind of the point of an MMO.
Who here has characters on multiple servers?
>>340601108
>Meme SkeletonFujo get off /v/ and get back to making the gamu you slut
>>340602053
>People don't play this game for years like they did with WoW and other MMOs, they play it for a couple months and quit.
>Guy says he's been playing since 1.0
>WHAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS THAT
pretty delusional
>>340599996
Funny enough Ozma is every bit as RNG bullshit as he was in FFIX, except this time the RNG involves getting a single shitter that wipes the raid every time.
>>340601467
But I'm not listening to 4chan. I'm listening to the 7 players in the raid team I set up that are still playing. I founded an FC with 175 people in it at its peak too. We all got our Of Dragons Deep titles, Master Caster, Melusine Mauler, et. al.
The game used to be good, now it isn't. There is NOTHING comparably as good.
>>340602162
no general chat
no trade chat
entirely instanced
>>340602140
All online games are built from lowest common denominator.
All of them.
>>340602162
They're talking out their ass. FFXIV is the easiest I've had finding groups of people since EQ back in the ol days.
>>340602023
>6 parties
>Can't clear normal Midas
I've never run into a Midas PUG that couldn't clear. Maybe you're the weak link?
>>340602043Try wasting an hour and a half wiping to Ozma and Forgall, only to vote abandon because there literally wasn't enough time left to clear.Twice.
>all these /vg/ fags trying to defend this shitty game
that guy's list is pretty valid for complaints
i would add the fact all servers are located in fucking canada, your ping is shit, theres no player addons, gold sellers are rampant as fuck, and themepark is boring as fuck and endgame content is so easy and negligible everyone completes a new patch in under 1 afternoon , then you are expected to sit there and just do boring themepark grind for 3 months until next patch
>>340601643
not him but BDO is clearly the better mmo
the design of FFXIV is the safest wow clone concept known to man. every single class is just a wow clone, theres nothing original about it, all that lore and fanservice, and yet every class is the most boring mundane experience possible, that youve all experienced before from 10 other mmos
and BDO being sandbox means endgame is infinitely more fun and diverse of an experience
while FFXIV is just sit around hopping around your FC house/ your own house idling for dungeon finder queue times to pop
FFXIV is literally cancer, and the people that flocked to it are cancerous as fuck toxic as fuck worst of the worst kind of mmo players, the shit loving little faggots who MUST steamroll all mmo content ASAP just because and burn through an entire expansion's treadmill in under 1 week. you're pretty much why all mmos are shit now, and you support the death of the mmo genre with your toxic bullshit
dont get me started on all you little pathetic tryhard faggots who couldnt even do the endgame raiding but still manage to sit in the /vg/ thread acting like tryhard faggots
>>340600471
To be honest I completely agree with everything you've said but could I ask for your opinion on how you'd improve the game if put into a creative position? Preferably within a realistic scope
>>340602118
Whatcha gonna do about it, faggot? Cry? HAHAHAHAH
>>340602237
why would 1 person out of hundreds of thousands matter
"I'm immune to rat poison, everybody should drink rat poison now"
>>340602207I just posted the image randomly. Is it from a game?
>>340602140
Yeah FFXIV is braindead garbage I agree. So is BDO.
>>340602272
I actually have to commend the devs for making a 'difficult' 24 man raid this time
by difficult I mean requires the player to do more than sit still. Jesus fuck Void Ark was so god damn boring
340602353
>/vg/
Who even posts on that shitty board? It's all just cliquey circlejerks, even if you actually like FFXIV
>>340601571
It's not hard to be wrong about predictions when you're deluded enough to just maintain your dumb opinion about something regardless of facts and information
>>340601787
you don't
theres literally no community to the game
everytime i would load back into this game i'd comment about how fucking dead and lifeless the servers are, then all the cockroaches would come scurrying out pretending as if they were actively talking the entire time
>>340602279
>how to spot someone who has never actually played the game
>>340602442Shortstack from Tumblr is making a hentai monster girl visual novel, picture you posted is a meme loving skeleton who baneposts verbally
>>340602463
meant to quote >>340602353
fucked that up pretty bad
>>340602279
What's wrong with instances?
>Chats
Linkshells. People try to actually avoid gilspammers. General/trade chat would just make it easier for them.
>>340602525
I haven't played this game since April 2014, yet I still know everything about it because everything stays the same :)
>>340602308
I was one of the last men standing in the party every time, and I'm a black mage, one of the squishiest, turret-iest classes.
I was marking the fucking hearts because other people weren't.
Healers were not standing on the gas vents. Tanks were losing aggro. DPS were ignoring the status effect in the cage and killing themselves and then being all like "why did I die wtffff???" The cat was right next to Quickthinx half the time, and the other half, people didn't see the heart until it was too late.
Half the party was getting rekt by the balls.
I'm not making this up.
>>340602353
>BDO being sandbox
Except it's not, you shill. It's BARELY open world as is.
>>340602579
I have never seen a linkshell promoted except for hunts.
>>340602321
Honestly you probably should have vote abandoned sooner.
>one alliance keeps losing half their members before blackhole
>>340598061
Same as usual - gated content: the game
>>340602524
>wahhh nobody talks to me
Maybe get a personality or actually try talking to people.
>Doing Ozma
>My Alliance's tank simply cannot comprehend the Ball phase mechanics and just dances around incoherently, killing most of my alliance
zzzzzz
>>340602359
make boss fights less scripted
remove all the fucking invisible walls
add gear that matters like trinkets or something
remove completely static stats from gear
add midtier content instead of patronizingly easy and artificial difficulty hard
thats just a start
>>340602353
You played the game three years ago, and are judging it based only that. You have no fucking ground.
>>340602761
No one ever talks
>>340602634
So you were doing such shit DPS you didn't get aggro when other people died? Okay.
>>340602457
This x 100. I really hope they don't pussy out with the last raid in the series and make it boring and mindless again.
>>340602853
Then you start a conversation with them. Stop being part of the problem you're complaining about, you fuckboi.
>>340602445
BDO is full action combat with animation canceling
XIV is tab target with a global cooldown mechanic.
You've never played the game or you would know that BDO is the exact opposite of every other mmo today.
>>340602664
I didn't call one, but other people did. Multiple times.
And they got shat on for it. Deservedly so, in theory - it was day fucking one, after all - but people literally were not paying attention to anything.
>one alliance keeps losing half their members before blackhole
That was my alliance, except it was more than half.We were the fucking laughingstock of the raid because our healers were dogshit and our tank was an obnoxious cunt who kept lasering us and fucking the mechanics up and dying, leaving the rest of us with nothing to do but follow suit (especially with that constant laser attack he uses in square form). I remember, one of our healers was dead literally five seconds into the fight. Multiple times, none of us made it to Black Hole.
I can't wait for Deep Dungeons. They look like fun and today they revealed in interviews that they can be used to farm xp and get relevant to current content weapons.
>>340602968
About what?
>>340602979
>animation canceling
Yeah not exactly rocket science, faggot. You could do that in B&S too and that was braindead garbage too.
>>340602524
I love how completely false this statement is. There are plenty of linkshells and FCs you can join. I'm in a linkshell and an FC that's always active. Pretty sure you could have found one too.
I love Aquapolis a LOT more then i should. It's such a simple concept but i don't think the thrill of opening those doors will ever get old for me.
>>340602979
the combat and characters are good but everything else about bdo is pretty garbage
the cash shop item prices are completely outrageous and regular gear is ugly as fuck
>>340603082
How did you find your FC and LS?
>>340603097
I know, right? Seems like it's much easier to get to floor 7 than the 1.5% chance people were saying.
>>340602861I was parsing, that definitely was not the case.
I was actually the one pulling Quickthinx off the tank, most of the time they lost aggro.
>>340603082
>WORKS FOR ME xDDDD
>>340603173
Well, if it is like SE said and the doors have a 50/50 chance of being right it IS 1.5%. But after playing a bunch of times and getting to level 5/6 somewhat frequently i'm starting to believe that picking a door literally doesn't matter, it's just a dice roll. SE really likes lying about % chances in this game for some reason.
>>340603082
To be fair a lot of LS are RPing catsluts and most FCs are too big to be bothered with each individual member
>>340602979
I find it really funny that people will unironically defend the latest "generic korean mmo" and belive that somehow it will be the first one not to go F2P after a few months and then get abandoned.
>>340603325
I've seen the last floor three times in the past 2 days after using 17 maps. Either extremely lucky or the chances aren't that bad.
>>340603203
Might also add that tanks weren't necessarily the ones dying most of the time, it was mainly DPS/healers. Tanks were just losing aggro and not positioning well.
>>340603160
Through a friend.
>>340603217
Works if you get out of your sperg shell and communicate, Anon.
>>340603373
Join small FCs.
>>340603010
>day one
Ah, yeah that was hell. I gave up when we vote abandoned after the first boss, decided I didn't give a fuck about bragging rights if I was gonna just get people as observant as a doorknob.
>>340602524
>>340603082
I really don't get how you wouldn't find a Linkshell honestly. Here's something that happened literally today to me:
>Play on Mateus, one of the deadest servers in the entire game
>Shout "Dragonskin maps, anyone in" in Idyllshire
>4 People join my party
>We talk while doing the maps, visit the Aquapolis a few times
>They add me to their friends list and invite me to a linkshell
And it wasn't the first time something like this happened either.
>>340603606
>"Want a million dollars? Well just go get a million dollars"
I actually liked 1.0 more than ARR
Don't get me wrong, it had tons of issues and I can totally understand why it bombed. But I felt like it had a better core foundation/more unique concept than ARR by a mile
I refuse to play until they make a proper SMN
XIV has by far the worst rendition of the job in the franchise. Fuck, I'd say XIV has the worst job system in general
>>340603792
the characters had ass
now everybody has a flat ass
For people that switched from a smaller server to a bigger server
did you feel bad about leaving your FC?
was it harder to make new bros with crowds of people everywhere?
>People doing map parties
>"Your map your chest loot. Random drops finders keepers"
>People somehow have the balls to complain about this
>Had some pissy catslut leave the group because they were being told not to roll on chest-items when they got literally 2.3 million gil worth of materia landing in their inventory that they got to keep
>>340603792
It did. And that's why it bombed.
2.0 was a by the numbers wow clone with an ff paintcoat, that's why it was sucessful.
>>340603889
>Proper SMN
What are you talking about anon!
Just go and play your watered down BLM you silly guy!
:^)
>>340603958
>did you feel bad about leaving your FC?
my FC was full of literal faggots who were literally sucking the FC leader's cock which I only joined because my friend did
no rugrats
>>340603972
>Going in with more than a tank and a healer
Why?
>>340604006
>>340603889
They should have just made current SMN into Evoker, and based it more around channeling primal/bahamut instead of this weird hybrid pet/dot/nuke thing
Then they could have had a proper pet class SMN. Though I'm not really sure how I'd make a dedicated pet class work in XIV. Don't really think it could
>>340603792
>But I felt like it had a better core foundation/more unique concept than ARR by a mile
This is true.
The execution was what killed it.
In came Yoshi, and instead of trying to fix the game for what it was, decided to abandon it all and just make the safest bet possible - a typical tab-target themepark MMO. Which he did an okay job at.
XIV as it stands is not a great game on its own merits - it's like a ~7/10, 7.5/10 at best, but when compared to WoW and other big MMOs in its current state, it looks a lot better.
>>340603958
Despite playing the game since 2.0, I never really found an FC to join outside ZR during launch. No one is ever social so I never found an FC to join.
>>340599996
>How bad is Ozma
Let me put it this way.
On our first attempt we one shotted the guy you're stuck at.
We then spent the next 45 minutes being annihilated by Ozma.
>>340603792
What things did 1.0 do differently? Never played it
>>340604584
literally copypasted everything
>>340604319
It really is a shame how they handled SMN in FFXIV since it's just, summon pet and then go back to DOTing
>>340604584
Better graphics and cutscenes is pretty much all I remember from 1.0 that impressed me. The Nael fight was also pretty cool.
>>340603972
I feel like i'm a cuck when it comes to this. I never managed to restrict loot rules so that i'm the only one that rolls, simply because i'd feel really bad because the way i see it everyone is using their time to help me so they should get a fair chance. Even though i do feel like i should restrict it.
>>340604584
See this map?
You can kind of tell what the actual world is like.
Literally narrow hallways and square rooms.
>>340604759
3.0 SMN got more fun with its new skills but I'd still rather have a real SMN than this WoW Warlock thing that calls itself a Summoner.
Maybe Egi glamours will help it at least look more like a summoner?They won't.
>>340602761
no nigger, nobody ever actively talks openly with the game , there is no community. its fucking lifeless and dead
>>340603082
i've probably played the game longer than you, and anyone who's played the game knows what i said is 100% fucking true.
>>340603669
>go out of your way in order to have actual engagement with community
no nigger, thats not how mmos work. FFXIV is literally the most dead community i've ever seen for an mmo, ever. its so fucking lifeless and empty and hollow.
>>340602654
>samefaging retard from a couple days ago
how pathetic are you to try to infer its not? it quite literally is, and its one of the best sandbox mmos in a long time.
but go ahead nigger, explain to me, yet again how its not a sandbox. because that worked out so well for you last time
>WAH ITS NOT FULL LOOT
>WAH YOU CANT BUILD HOUSE
>WAH THERE IS A KARMA SYSTEM
you're a literal nigger.
>>340602818
no, you fucking retard. im not that other guy who said he hasnt played since beta or w/e ive played a year ago, ive played this year, and i resubbed for 1 month just recently. and its still fucking lifeless as it ever was with all the glaring fucking laundry list of issues the game has with no fixes in sight.
>>340604838
If your map opens the aquapolis they are, at the very least, going to each get 5k gil out of the deal.
If you get down to the bottom it's something stupid like ~155k gil that everyone got, regardless of any loot from the chest. Not even counting the rares.
So they can go fuck themselves. Bring their own map if they want a chance at loot. Hell most of the chest loot shit is selling for 10k a pop these days unless you get to floors 4+.
When is palace of the dead coming out? Wasn't it supposed to come out with this patch? It was in the trailer at least
>>340605074
please cry more
3.3 is for crafters what 3.2 was for fighters.
>>340605050
>Maybe Egi glamours will help it at least look more like a summoner?
weren't Egi glamours supposed to start coming out in 3.3
I recall them saying only 1 egi glamour per patch because they're lazy as fuck
>>340605129
3.35
like two weeks from patch I think 260
>>340605074
>sandbox
>Can't actually shape the world at all
>Not even full loot
Great sandbox, senpai.
>>340605074
maybe if you were more likeable people would want to talk to you
I never went out of my way socially for anything in this game and still wound up in a nice FC and messed with some linkshells.
>>340605175
3.4 was what I heard.
So not for like another 3-4 months. And you're right, it will just be one.
>>340604584
1.0 (more post 1.18, as it's pretty different than launch 1.0) had a larger emphasis on traditional RPG elements, more akin to XI and ARR's WoW styled system
There were far more stats. Things like enmity generation, refresh, regen, skill modifiers, procs, traits etc were all things on gear, and it let to a few options in gear choices. Basic example being the WHM artifact gear. The robe came with "Cure potency +10%". This meant your cure line just healed for more. But there was another endgame robe that came with MP refresh and a huge +50 enhancement magic potency. Which meant you had stronger Regens and Stoneskins, in trade for less powerful cure casts. Things like that
In ARR, damage types are class universal. PLD always does slashing damage, even with shield bash. MNK always does blunt damage etc. In 1.0, damage types were attack independent, meaning a shield bash from a PLD would do blunt damage, while a sword strike would do slashing damage. This was important because certain damage types could incapacitate certain enemies in unique ways. Dealing blunt damage to Ifrit for example would break his horns, which would lower his natural HP regen. You could break legs which would make enemies immobile, cut off tails for different loot tables, smash skeleton's heads which would lower their accuracy/stop certain types of attacks etc
Job stones weren't a straight upgrade in 1.0. In ARR they just give you huge boosts to all your stats. In 1.0, they'd adjust your stats. Being a GLD and putting on a PLD soul stone would raise your VIT and MND, but lower your STR meaning you'd deal less damage with the stone on
Little things like that. As someone who really liked XI, I'm more interested in stats, class building, min maxing and number games than I am rote boss mechanic memorization
>>340605129
https://a.pomf.cat/yjkhab.ogg
>those laughs
Guess who's back
Why are you people even replying? You don't have to argue with him. His """""""""revolutionary"""""""""" Korean MMO will be dead in a few months and we'll still be playing FFXIV.
>>340605074
hey literal pathetic nigger fucking retard faggot! maybe if you were ever taught how to talk to people, you wouldn't have problems being social
>>340605367
For the (You)s.
>>340605050
The thing that really pisses me off about SMN is that they don't even make your LBlvl3 a summon, if they did that than to me at least it would feel a little bit like what a Summoner is supposed to be
>>340605313
>>There were far more stats. Things like enmity generation, refresh, regen, skill modifiers, procs, traits etc were all things on gear, and it let to a few options in gear choices. Basic example being the WHM artifact gear. The robe came with "Cure potency +10%". This meant your cure line just healed for more. But there was another endgame robe that came with MP refresh and a huge +50 enhancement magic potency. Which meant you had stronger Regens and Stoneskins, in trade for less powerful cure casts. Things like that
Man I wish they would do shit like this in 2.0+. Vertical progression is shit, and there's literally no customization.
In fact whatever customization ARR had they removed. Tanks? No STR vs VIT builds, just all VIT while melding STR. Healers? Gotta meld ACC because lol no accuracy
>>340605313
That does sound very good. I mean, surely we can have some of that in the current FFXIV with a bit of effort from SE? I feel like just making elemental damage types and resistances for enemies and players actually matter would go a long way to making this feel more like an RPG. If anything 1.0's system has WoW to blame for its failiure. It's too complex, people are looking for something more simple and intuitive when it comes to MMOs.
>>340605074
As someone who spent two months in a "Hardcore" guild for BDO, I'd have to say its incredibly shitty and this "Endgame" that you speak of is playing the grunil mini-game or farming Sausans for 20+hours if you want to hit 56+ t. Dommestici/Team Legacy member top 3 spots on the orwen server since launch day till I quit three weeks ago.
>>340602805
>remove all the fucking invisible walls
Tell me more about how you would do this while running it on ps3
>>340605187
I see, since I saw it in the trailer I thought it was gonna be now.
>>340605337
Oh wow nice. Well they did say they were going to bring her back right? Crazy that she is going to get her own progression story though
>>340605074
>i've probably played the game longer than you, and anyone who's played the game knows what i said is 100% fucking true.
>>340601571
This post of yours conflicts with your statement. And don't say it isn't you, because your horrible typing patterns ITT makes it too obvious that it is.
>>340605459
That would be neat if there were ever a need to use a caster LB3. Is most cases if you want a DPS LB you're gonna go with a melee one for a higher hit on the boss, at least in my experience. Maybe in Savage its different.
I've only seen the new summoner LB3 like twice since HW launched. Meteor once.
>never seen DRK or WAR in person
>or any healer one aside from the old pulse of life
So much fucking Dragonsong Dive.They really need to rework the entire LB shit but that's a different conversation than SMN being bland.
>>340605783
Edda's bit was one of the most interesting side stories from ARR. If she's actually back I would love it.
By the way one of the new mounts is Avere's head so, it probably is
>>340605459
Well, granted it's not a summon but it IS Teraflare. So at least it looks really good.
>>340605671
Funny you say top spots 3 spots in orwen because there's 10 channels and 6 rotations at sausans.
Not to mention you're a literal fucking who, that's so fucking hardcore man.
just like old times
I've gotten 75% of all (you)'s in this thread
good to know I haven't lost my touch
>>340605920
I don't know where that cheerleader comes from but I want one.
>>340606029
Heard it comes from pvp so enjoy that:^)
>>340605920
New Lanner is from Nidhogg EX
2-person Pegasus = ?
Dravanian Dandelion = Moogle beast Tribe
Avere = probably from Palace of the Dead
Red Fenrir = Probably Cash shop
White ADS = from new PVP map
Fat moogle gondola = ?
>>340600471
>- Instances are 100% completely scripted. Fights are Identical every time you do it to the point you can run them with your eyes closed after one clear, or less if you watched a vid.
>>340606204
2 person pegasus is from 5000 mentor roulettes
>>340598531
>just got all crafts/gatherers to 51
>no idea what to do from there because still undergeared/don't know where to go to farm/learn rotations
>>340605956
that doesn't make your chink grind simulator any better, I'm sorry your no name guild couldn't get mediah or any of the citys since Team legacy was too busy winning in every conflict even when they have superior numbers. The endgame is literal ass in BDO I had fun with the PVP but anything I had to spend 20+ hours doing GQ's and farming Sausans it wasn't worth. Fuck off retard
>>340606286
>haven't even done Mentor Roulette once because you have to be in a level 60 job to do it
There was no incentive to me before, still kind of isn't. I was hoping as a roulette it would either give me some relevant tomestones or be a hefty exp boost but nope
>>340606306
This page is amazing for crafting macros if you are lazy/just started crafting
http://garytay.net/ffxiv_macro/
>>340598531
>>340606306
>Mfw i finished leveling every gatherer and crafter to 60 exclusively by doing GC turn-ins today
I have no face. It took me one year but it's finally done.
>>340606335
I'm sorry you're a liar. I'm glad to see your normie guild thought they had some impact, but if I'm having to ask who the fuck you are in the same server then you didn't make an impact or actually be a good guild. Also what conflict, chimping out at a grind spot? Node wars aren't in yet you stupid nigger. Win every conflict that doesn't fucking matter. People like you were gonna quit, because you believe that you make an impact then someone who actually plays the game stomps your faggot asses and you realize you don't actually do shit or make shit.
>>340606029
15k wolf marks
>>340598531
I call bullshit, I have a bunch of moogle quests I haven't done and I was able to start the beast quests day one. Only quests that might be affected by this are the ones for the aether currents but otherwise either you trolling or been trolled.
>>340606813
Is that a lot?
>>340606851
You need to do 3 sidequest chains to unlock the moogle beast tribe. Takes about 30 minutes.
>>340599996
I feel like I've seen this guy before.
>>340599996
Is this really how this boss looks? He looks so small in game that i had trouble discerning his features, he didn't look humanoid at all to me.
>>340607114
It's an official render what do you want
>>340607185
Estinien's corrupted gay bulge looks really cool.
>>340606702
I'm just having a laugh that your still playing that game, continue talking shit you don't know about go look at the guild list on orwen and are node wars not out really? I remember that shit being promised on launch then promised 1 month after.
>>340607270
>Gay bulge
no wonder he wears the helmet. Fujoshits must have lost it
>>340604319
It worked for XI right?
>>340607629
XI SMN didn't "work".
>>340602359
this
>tfw being made fun of by the community for being a WoWfugee
I thought this was our new home bros!
>>340607846
screw them
>>340605459
Hear me out, what if they added customizable limit breaks for each job?
Each job would have 3-5 animations for each tier of limit break, and they would have to unlock them via grind/achievements.
IE monk could have an uppercut for LB1, a flurry of punches for LB2, and some sick anime shit for LB3.
Even better, Summoners could finally get primals for their LBs, like their LB3 could be summoning down Ramuh or Ifrit or something.
It would add a nice layer of customization and carrot on the stick for players.
>>340607846
>le false flagging crying faec
seriously though just at least try to pretend you've played other FF games and don't be a shitter
that way nobody will suspect you
>>340607846
there's things worse than a wowfugee.
And that's the official forumgoers for XIV
>thank god I could spend 24 USD on the Bennu instead of 5 million Gil on the Zu!
>do you have every achievement and every job to ilvl 245? There's plenty of content stop complaining
>that one warrior that joins the duty, never fails a mechanic, and leaves once it's over without saying a word
>>340608313
>that DRG whose gear breaks on the first Nidhogg attempt
Never change
>>340605518
>Healers? Gotta meld ACC because lol no accuracy
>expecting healers to DPS
Fuck right off
>>340608102
>Pay SE money to get an item that you could either farm for or save up for
>Spend the next 2 months sitting in idleshire on your mount bitching about having nothing to do
Typical, really.
>>340608313
>that healer who somehow keeps everyone from dying after the tank gets himself killed in aoe
>>340608421
>not wanting to be the cool healer that keeps everyone alive AND makes the dungeon go faster
as ast I even boost that 2k DPS monk even further, they love me and I get every commend.
>>340608694
Nobody here's saying that Ozma is hard because the mechanics are hard.
What's hard is being paired with 23 other people who need to also execute the same mechanics, which are actually some of the most complex introduced into a 24-man raid thus far (although that isn't saying too much).
And knowing the average competency of this game's playerbase, combined with day 1 learning times, you really shouldn't be surprised people were bitching.
>>340603678
>equating making friends in a MASSIVELY MULTI-PLAYER ONLINE GAME to getting one million dollars
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am
>clearing savage with static in one go
>making strawpoll of things to diciede what do next, since most of people not sure and not against different things
>everyone surprised bird farm wins
>some people actually voted for bird farm to avoid weeping city
>>340608823
>barely put effort in
>still constantly get commends
Sometimes I'll go all out and help DPS as often as possible but a lot of times I'm half assing it. Dual monitors was a mistake, makes it too easy to not have to pay attention to the game conpletely.
>>340608421
whats it like not progressing any further than duty finder
>>340608094
Who cares if I don't know what a Cloud Strife is!? I just want to play a WoWclone while I wait for Leigon.
>>340608421
What's it like to be cancer? What's it like to intentionally make the healing class boring? What's it like to not experience to fun of using AoE attacks on pulls? What's it like to not being invited to runs for being a shitter?
/poke the Calamari minion. Seriously.
>>340609179
Good because I don't give a fuck about ex or savage fights. I just sub for a month to get the new stuff done and fuck around for the rest of the time.
>>340608421
there's a reason healers have offensive spells
>>340609275
>play wow
>start getting into 14
>praised as some sort of prodigy leveling up because I'm not retarded and read what my skills do
>almost all mechanics are obvious and I rarely mess up
>even savage is a cakewalk because of my experience with wow
why is the playerbase so fucking bad? how do people not know to stack for mechanics that use the stack indicator every similar mechanic?
>>340608823
>>340609179
>>340609314
>>340609460
>people replying to this seriously
It's a meme you dips. Thanks for the (You)s though.
>>340609682
Have another on the house.
>>340609528
Because
>FF game with shitloads of fanservice so a lot of fans are playing their first MMO
>Leveling experience is basically a massive tutorial, you basically get your hand held until you really get into the gear treadmill and even then most of the content that isn't bleeding-edge has echo/is nerfed/is a lower ilvl than you are
>>340598061
Fun, just got done farming nidhogg >:3
>>340609890
What about awful raids like Midas?
>>340609729
Thank you anon, I live for these
>people with the mentor crowns are usually the worst players
anyone else noticed this?
they cant do simple fucking mechanics
Just spent like two hours with my friends cashing in the Dragonskin maps we'd been piling up. Got to the Aquapolis like six times, never made it further than the 3rd chamber.
Why can't we into RNG
>>340609940
I bitched about my Midas experience above. Shitters still can't into mechanics months after release when everyone has the content on farm and it's reduced to weekly chore status.
Midas is better than Gordias was. Coil's still overall better, though.
>>340610000
I thought it was just me, but yeah I did notice it. Usually ignoring mechanics and just standing in shit.I also noticed those 0's.
>>340610000
Considering it doesn't actually take any skill to become one, it's not surprising.
Also nice quads.
>>340610000
Yes, because their skills can't speak for themselves so they need to throw a crown up next to their name to convince themselves and new players that they're good.
Going to Bard Nidhogg Ex in my static today, will I have trouble attacking and dodging mechanics in last phase?
I don't understand how people enjoyed leveling in this game. I tried to follow the story but it was terrible. The fact they added emote quest and tried to be funny with the stale as fuck aesthetics was boring. The invisible walls and the fact that every area is loading zone made tte entire game feel less immersive. The floaty running and weak animations made the game seem subpar.
Overall it's a good starting mmo but I just couldn't get into it.
>>340610000
I never miss a chance to call a mentor out from being shit, messing a mechanic up or not doing their job. A lot of times they get pissy too since I always bring up how they are a mentor and not doing well.
>>340610000
nice quads
>>340610247
If you haven't gotten banned or at least warned I'm surprised given how easily people go muh feelings and report.
>>340610209
>tfw I beat double nidhogg my first time
>second time out of boredom and the fight was fun
>keep dying to the final phase with the plume and dash taking up half the screen because I run in one direction after plumes spawn and it's the side with the dash and I panic and get killed
>>340608102
You can be a WoWfugee and a OF goer.
>>340610528
I don't actually swear, I just say something like "Hey we have someone new, shouldn't you be doing mechanics properly seeing as you are a mentor and should be a good influence on others for what to do?
>want to do ex primals
>party finder learning parties arnt all that good
>no time for a static
what do
I want my cool weapons
Is there a 3.3 version of the nude mod available yet? I know it's not the best looking stuff but it makes this shit heap a bit more tolerable.
>>340610797
Good job on them introducing the new raid finder tool and not even include trials in it.
>>340610731
why do these types of people have the ugliest characters
>>340610861
If you tell me how the modder was able to edit the files I'll make some for you.
>Barely touched Alex
>Hardly any lore
>Not high enough ilevel for new content
Queues for Alex 3 are so fucking long. Like all night long. i just want to get the quests done so I can get into Midas and start raising my ilvl.
What's the quickest way to boost ilvl right now? I really don't want to farm for lore. I'm sitting around ilvl200 on the classes I play frequently.
>>340610960
I've seen Au Ra that have those horrible slanty eyes. I'm not racist but it doesn't look good on them and they're usually the shit talkers.
>>340611061
Quickest way to boost ilvl is dungeons
people rarely roll on armor, and wont when you ask for specifics
>>340611001
I have no idea but you might be able to learn something from here
http://forum.neko-sentai.com/showthread.php?t=13902
I just skimmed the whole thread to find people'sscreenshots
>>340611061
New Expert dungeons (sohr kai/hullbreaker hm) drop i215.
Lore grind isn't that bad, so long as you do your dailies you'll cap.
Get Mhachi tokens from Void Ark to upgrade your eso gear.
Maybe make a PF for your Gordias clear?
>>340603047
You'd know what to talk about if you weren't some autistic NEET that's never had any friends or social experience. Why are you complaining about people not talking if you don't do it yourself?
How the fuck do I do post-50 crafting/gathering? I got them all to 52 through turnins but im so confused on actually farming xp/doing collectables
>Trying to get a full Prototype Midan Set so I can challenge Nidhogg EX
>It's been 8 hours and I still need 1x Crank, Spring, Lens, 3x Bolt; mostly because people keep fucking up mechanics
Kill me.
Doesn't help that my co-healers are mostly incompetent so I'm lucky if I can pull 200 DPS.
Is there still a cap on Midas drops?
>>340611584
nope, 3.3 removed the cap
time to resub?
Is it dumb to get the thunder axe if I have a Zeta?
The only cool looking Ramuh weapons is the axe, lance, black mage staff and bow.
>>340611727
yeah
Can we agree that 3.3 is the best odd-numbered patch yet?
>>340611661
Except for the Midan Gear.
Still need to farm for 7 weeks before you can have a Lore weapon.
Because fuck new players I guess.
>>340611794
Both are just glamour fodder now so who cares.
Also the crafted Ramuh BLM staff is 11/10
>>340611475
>au ra AST
Yes. I'm sure the other healer is the problem
>>340611845
I'd be willing to agree on that.
Toobad we're getting the fuckboys of darkness next patch.
No 1 (no one) cares about them or the ascians. Garlemauld is also pretty fucking shit since they never do anything.
Dragon song war was legitimately the best thing to happen to this games story and it's just going to get worse from here on out as they try and force us to leave Ishgard.They won't even add a fucking ishgardian GC
>>340611368
People are less willing to talk online than in real life, and I do have friends.
>>340611475
Isn't the min ilvl 220? Just buy a full crafted set.
What's the fastest way to get ilvl on a fresh 60 in 3.3?
I was considering just doing some farming and buying some gear outright.
>>340611313
>Get Mhachi tokens from Void Ark to upgrade your eso gear.
I thought the Mhachi Farthings were moved to Weeping City and can now be traded for Deep Illuminati gob parts
>>340612773
He said eso, not lore.
>>340612851
exactly my point
>>340612773
Nope, for Lore upgrade items you need a Mhachi Penny (weekly from Weeping City) and a Mhachi Farthing (drops from Void Ark, dunno if it's weekly).
Farthings still drop only from VA.
>>340612330
I'm extremely poor, is why (bought a house when the servers came up; I'm on less than half a mil now).
That said I keep getting low-rolls on Bolts, and A5 seems to be the worst for dullards fucking up mechanics, so I might take your advice and just buy one or two accessories.
Thanks.
>>340612742
Buying gear outright is the fastest assuming you have the cash to do so.
Otherwise farm Lv60 dungeons for Esoterics until you can break i200 (with an i210 weapon), buy a Lore tome ring and upgrade it with the items you get by running Void Ark/Weeping City, lot on hopefully a chest/pants from Weeping City and fill the rest of your slots with Prototype Midan gear.
>>340612773
Farthings are still in Void Ark, Weeping City has a different token you can use with a farthing to buy deep gob parts.
>Unlucky 20% success rate at spawning aquapolis
It's not like I wanted to make money before all the markets crashed or anything.
>>340610000
Every time, friend. Mentors are an absolute joke. There's literally no skill involved at all to qualify for it. Just have the 3 different class types at 60 and farm ifrit hardmode 500 times.
>>340613317
The shit is already hitting max levels of pleb on Balmung. So much crafting shit drops from there the thav glamours, minions and iLevel 160 crafting materials are down to MAYBE 20% of what they were at before the patch.
Although getting past floor 3 tends to get you some pretty good coin and items.
>>340613317
>>340613845
>tfw 200k a map on Levi
>no one to do them with
I just want to experience the content, man.
>>340613952
All you need is a decent tank/healer combo. WAR/SCH is best of course because of sustained DPS but I've done fine with DRK/WHM.
>>340613952
I see a lot of map groups in PF
>>340614127
>These cucks who get 5+ people in a party
>Everyone rolling need when someone gets a dungeon pop
>Map owner gets nothing
>>340614331
That's why you do them with friends. Everyone keeps the direct drops but the chest loot goes to the map owner.
>>340614418
Yeah, pretty much the way I've done it. Seems fair. Sure, someone might get a rank V materia pop into their inventory, but oh well.
>>340614331
>not making strict loot rules and kicking anyone who disobeys them
their fucking fault
>>340602353
But anon, it took me TWO afternoons to clear the new content, so clearly you are wrong and gay, and the game is perfect and flawless in every way.
>>340605050
Are they seriously so shit at development that they can't even make new function Egis, and are just going to make them into glamors for the 3 shitbots we already have?
>>340615036
Yes. They mentioned the egi glamours a long time ago and they STILL haven't added any. Also, like someone else said, they'll only be adding them one at a time. Laziness or incompetence, you decide.
>>340615175
they say that adding in egi glamours is "resource heavy" even though their first one will probably be a grey arbiter add repurposed as Ramuh Egi
>tfw I still haven't done any actual lvl 60 content because I keep switching classes
3 classes at 60, working on another one and I still have to run antitower for the first time
>>340602140
Wasn't Everquest filled with tedious shit like killing small rats for 20 levels?
>>340615175
Literally what is the fucking point when it's the exact same thing you already have but with a different coat of paint
I seriously don't understand how badly these retards are at game development that they managed to fuck up the most iconic job in the series right out of the box.
>>340615175
>>340615395
It's a mix of incompetence, laziness and the Ps3
They can use the PS3 as a scapegoat on everything. The team is being mismanaged.
>>340615646
does anyone even actually play on ps3? I tried to at a friend's house and it was fucking unplayable
>>340615646
To be fair that isn't a nee thing, the PS2 was blamed for everything in XI as well.
There was mention of the maid outfits being made available in NA through Amazon sometime. I looked but haven't found anything, anyone happen to have a link to where this was said?
>>340616105
You would be surprised how many are still on PS3 even though they were giving out free ps4 copies. PS3 hasn't ran below 30fps since HW came out and they still support it. They say they're gonna stop when the next expansion comes out but they said that about HW, too. Yoshi-P is the japanese Todd Howard.
>>340616104
Rightfully so. The moment the PS2 was removed they got a lot of basic shit.
>>340616105
The PS2 did hold XI back quite a bit in the day.
The PS3 will hold XIV, but not to the same level that the PS2 held back XI.
Now that there's multiple levels of graphical options, there's really no reason the PS3 should hold it back graphically.
Might hurt some potential mechanics from being implemented though.
>tfw FFXIV introduced me to MMOs
>had fun whenever I played
>actually enjoy the style of combat (also why I enjoyed games like Xenoblade)
>music is fantastic
>story had me midly interested
>bosses/raids are fun as fuck
It's fun not being a jaded fuck and being able to enjoy a game for what it is.2.0's MSQs can suck a dick, though.
>>340616379
Isn't PS3 being phased out next expac?
>>340602353
BDO is a fucking shallow ass game that punishes you for pvp, has shitty pve, and one of the worst/convoluted UIs that I have ever seen.
If anyone's looking for a tank alt, I'm selling an unused account, full i240 tank with all lv 60s, would rather give it to someone that will use it rather than a shitter that'll just brag about the ilvl
>>340616447
You wish
>>340616447
They probably won't.
They're probably afraid of the backlash they'd receive for dropping PS3 support, but I seriously have to question how many people are still playing this on PS3.
>>340615601
>they managed to fuck up the most iconic job in the series right out of the box
That's not Black Mage.
I mean, they did fuck up BLM, but you're talking about SMN which is a few places down the conga line. In fact of the main pool of FF jobs I'd probably rank Summoner near the end of the "recognisability" spectrum.
>>340616547
all lv 60 crafters*
>>340616632
>BLM
you mean dragoon
>>340616632
Summons and summoning are the real big dicks of the FF franchise.
>>340598581
>Story is nice
I will never understand this. It has worse writing than the Prequel Star War movies without all the nice special effects.
>>340616713
I'd say BLM = WHM > DRG > DRK = MNK = SAM > BLU = Gambler = Thief/ROG > NIN > BRD = MCH > SMN > Mime > WAR > Fighter/PLD
>>340601696
>facts are bait
LETS FUCKINGTHROW THE EYES OFF THE CLIFFTHATS A GOOD IDEA RIGHT AYMERIC
>>340616632
"Summoners" aren't that iconic, but the summons are.
>>340616379
The issue isn't graphics it's the PS3 memory which is pushed to the limit.
There's not enough power in it to be able to handle basic god damn features such as a tp gauge; they had to actually remove some UI elements to include that.
It's also why we don't have the old XIV anti-clipping methods in place If an outfit didn't have a tailhole or clipped with hair/items it'd reposition things to fit properly; hair would be brushed off the back weapons would be tilted to fit and tails would peek out under skirts.
>>340605972
>merely pretending
I finally got this motherfucker
How fun/good is NIN?
>tfw they can't nerf Not-RDM because it will nerf SMN as well
If the patch is worth catching up on for someone who ditched the game, how grindy is getting the gil for the crafted sets?
>>340617461
If you have good internet, it's one of the more active and fun jobs imo.
>>340617461
levelling ninja right now
it's kinda okay until level 45, then it gets really fun once you get all your mudras
it's also basically a guaranteed raid spot so take that as you will
>>340617493
do you have a high level crafter/gatherer?
>>340617461
If your ISP doesn't route you through the montreal tier 3 networks you're gucci
if it does don't bother, while they heavily fixed a lot of the latency issues there's still a bit of dps loss if you're lagging.
Also you can't disable the ninja run making the class fucking awful; they add in a gauss barrel toggle but I can't unweeb my self to pretend I'm a magic wielding rogue.
>>340617663
the ninja run is hilarious though
>>340617723
Ninja was a mistake. it should've became thief.
>>340617632
No, are the new gear untradeable?
Who is worse out of Blizzdrones and weebcucks?
>>340608972
Not him, but I've been avoiding it. This sort of stuff happens whenever there's a new raid. I remember people had a hard time with Garuda, Castrum Meridium, and Praetorium when it first came out. I usually give 2-3 weeks before I even try it.
Melded ironworks crafting set or augmented script sets?
Did that minfillia doujin ever get translated or scanned? I remember it was coming out a few months ago but I totally forgot about it. Asking for a friend.
>>340617862
Melded ironworks is better
I take back what I said about not wanting Moogles to be the crafting tribe.
These quests give shitloads of crafter EXP and are generally way less annoying to undertake than the Vath/Vanu quests. And they don't have those fuck-awful grand company-style turn-in quests (that the Ixal had) which rape your wallet.
>>340618304
By the way, has anyone worked out where you get the Moogle hot air balloon mount?
>>340617862
My FC is working together by getting augmented script sets according to each member's specialization first to facilitate easier access to the materials/crafting of the ironworks sets.
Unless you have the money to just buy the sets or pay people who are hypergeared from 3.2 to craft them for you. Then just go ironworks.
>>340600880
Hey now you can shit on this game pretty much any other way you like but the soundtrack is pretty fuckin baller.
>Have that one or two friends, usually girls that defend this game to death.
>EVen WoD being they way it is now is still better than FFXIV.
>All they do is get glam mogs on their catgirls or drag girls and take screen shots.
>>340618664
Cool story bro
>>340612295
Why do you keep posting this?
Fuck off, shill.
Haven't done EX yet but the Nidhogg trial was a fucking blast, amazing buildup, amazing music, and is the first story rrelsted content I've experienced any wipes on since Ravana, so it's not a complete faceroll like most of the recent content has been. Hopefully they keep the challenge level tuned around where this patch has been.
>>340598061
Same as it's been since 2.0 launch. Fun in small doses, not worth being subbed to for more than 3 months at a time.
>>340616632
They always fuck up mages. Back in FFXI, black mages were made useless in ToAU. We were all thrown under bus and told to go solo farm.
>let me repost this EVERY DAY and ACT LIKE I HAVENT PLAYED IT even though I'm a weebshitter who keeps sucking Yoshi's cock since its been the same dogshit from 2.3
off yourselves drones
>>>/vg/
>>340619380
This is bullshit tho. BLM were needed for nearly every HNM.
>>340602457
Are the dungeons still generally brainless though? I feel post 50 they've been pretty brainless ever since the pharos, AK and WP nerfs. Boils down to pull everything and aoe with little environmental hazards or trash mechanics. How is the palace of the dead?
>>340618360
I think it's a max rep item
>>340619467
HNM yes, but if you wanted to recover xp or merit points, you were shit out of luck if you wanted a group.
>>340598061
Make it cost 40 euro, but remove the mensual payment.
>>340619503
The Dravanian Down-tree thing is the maximum rep mount.
I mean the thing on the bottom right here.
>>340603889
what
SMN is really fun. Sure, it's not like the pet class you want it to be, but for what the kit is, it's very satisfying to use correctly.
can you make a profit gardening?
it's fun
>>340619550
>literally always packed at pudding camps
Nope.
>>340619638
>Added averes severed head mount
>Can't even get it because palace of the dead isn't out yet
>>340606702
dude i wonder why you never made any friends on ffxiv, it's a real mystery. honestly sad, the community is probably regretting losing such a social butterfly.
>>340620407
I wouldn't know. I quit the game soon afterwards. I got tired of wasting hours and hours just to do the most menial things in the game.
How have people already maxed the moogle tribe? Someone posted a webm of the moogle dance before.
>>340620315
The profit for blood peppers is already dwindling as people acquire the new minions, but there will likely be more opportunities to make money off gardening.
>>340616632
i think black mage feels very "black mage-y" and also is one of the highest skill cap kits in the game.
>>340620806
0 unless someone figured out a way to get infinite beast tribe allotments. You can only do 3 a day for a single tribe unless you rank up that day, then you get 3 more.
>>340621158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zye-ZUiMMU
>>340606986
>Is that a lot?
Hm, a decent amount I guess. You cap out at 20,000 wolf marks so that's quite a hefty chunk.
You get around 1000 or so if you do the daily frontline and get seal rock/shatter, varies slightly since you earn slightly more if you win/less if you lose.
Basically you're looking at 1-2 weeks of doing the daily frontline if you want to get it time efficiently, you want to spam seal rock/shatter to make it go faster but you won't be getting roulette bonuses after the first obviously which halves the reward to around ~500.
>>340621279
I saw that before, I would assume it was leaked since I had seen it sometime last week. Patch didn't happen until this past Tuesday.
>>340620745
The only time BLM became insignificant was after the 99 level cap increase. Before that, they were very handy for most endgame.
>>340620476
No shit, it's datamined images.
>>340611432
You can't earn collectables till 54 anyway or something like that, and you won't have access to the really valuable ones (that net more scrips per turnin) till you're 60 and entry-level geared.
So don't sweat it too much and just get to 60 first the usual way (leves, the occasional collectible if you're passing by when it spawns).
>>340611432
Your best option is to ignore collectibles desu senpai. The stats you need are ridiculous to actually get any of them. You're better off just levelling it through daily gc turn ins.
>>340616415
>It's fun not being a jaded fuck and being able to enjoy a game for what it is
Me too f a m, I jumped in after Heavensward and it's been an upgrade over wow in every conceivable way. And before you fags cry wowfugee, I did playTacticsso this is like the Ivalice mmo I always wanted.
Only thing I miss from wow is the physics engine, WoW had that down pat and coupled with no zone transitions/no invisible cliffs everywhere, the world was much for fun to run around it on a mechanical level. Especially if you were an engineer and had the toys like the rocket boots and glider.
>>340621539
>You can't earn collectables till 54 anyway
fuck me I meant scrips
How lucrative are the moogle beast tribe quests from a money making standpoint? Do they give you anything neat to sell on the MB?
I'm busy as fuck this week so I've been putting it off, but if there's good money to be made I'll bite the bullet and make time for it.
>>340621470
Well it's a shame that most people didn't see it that way.
>>340621963
Well these are the items you can buy for gil at max rep.
>>340622018
They very recently became OP, now barely anyone plays melee.
>>340621963
Glass Fibers man, people want in on that shit.
>>340622575
That's what i curious about actually. They're going 300k per on my mb last I checked so i was wondering how easy they were to get.
>>340621963
They haven't been taking all that long yet. Have been able to do the 3 per day in like 10 - 15 min. There's a few that don't even have you make anything which is nice.
>RDM confirmed.
my dick
it's never gonna happen but they just need to add blue mage and I will forgive squenix for everything.
>>340621817
You're still a WoWfugee for not playing any other main series game.
>>340623259
>>RDM confirmed
Source motherfucker
>>340623331
Read the rest of the post.
>>340623358
I don't get it.
>>340623358
How about you do first?
>>340617780
Rogue/thief are the same thing and evolved into ninja since the first game.
>>340623262
single player RPGs aren't really my thing, so there's no love lost there.
Thanks for the tip about glass fiber.
Managed to sell two for 280K a pop; and if you're like me, ie. impoverished, that's a decent chunk of change.
>>340625570
Sell furniture as long as everyone is busy decorating their new homes too.
>>340622070
>mog slippers
They make an annoying sound every step right?
>>340625856
We can only hope.
>>340625856
If I hear one more friggin' squeak, I'm gonna take those slippers and shove 'email up his-
Palace of the Dead is going to be the "Dark Souls Mode".
>>340626057
It's supposed to be soloable and healing items are useless. Going to be a faceroll like all casual content.
is there a tifa outfit
>>340626534
They said you can go solo but it's much harder than with 4 people. Also they said that they'll had a hard mode.
>>340626561
No, but there is a Lightning's outfit ;)
>>340598061
whats a populated world for a completely new person
>>340626725
Just like how dragonskin maps on 3.0 release needed 8 people but in reality all that was needed was a single tank and healer.
>>340626823
Balmung
>>340626823
Faerie
>>340626845
They clearly aim to make Palace of the Dead fit for casuals. You can enter it at level 17. But I'm optimistic about the hard mode.
>>340626823
Gilgamesh, Ultros, Leviathan.
Just don't come to Levi if you're planning on becoming an attention whore, enough /vg/ refugees migrated here and they're trying to bring the drama.
https://mmogrinder.net/2016/01/09/the-mmo-grinder-2015-year-in-review/
>Biggest Annoyance: FFXIV Rage Runoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht1dQP6k4Xc
>>340626823
If you want to play with /v/ there's an FC on Ultros. It's medium medium-low however.
>>340626762
shit
>>340626904
but its always locked
>>340627000
thanks
>>340627123
No i just want a server where i wont struggle to find people for dungeon/raiding pretty much just playing the game.
>>340627376
ill keep it in mind thanks
>get final steps for my tank roulette
>explain the mechanics before we start
>group is actually doing alright dps aren't shit for once
>healers are garbage though
>repeatedly let me get below 10% before even casting their first heal
>their basically afk most of the fight
>not even trying to dps so I legitimately have no idea what they were trying to do
>they get mad when the group calls them on it
>they can't explain why they're not healing
>group eventually disbands since we can't kick both healers
I feel like I've been had, theirs no way I was unlucky enough to get two legitimately retarded healers in the same instance
>>340598061
I feel kinda weak playing, might be the early game tho also gear isnt that special
>>340627448
Should have said previously, but if you decide to play on Ultros the FC is Golden Ratio <ZR>. Whisper Mister Blaster or anyone else really for an invite, or use the application feature and put /v/ in the comment.
>>340625728
>making bank on patchweek selling furniture and shit
>know im inevitably going to blow it all on furniture and glamour myself
just end it now. seems like the only way to grow wealth is just like rl - be boring with no interests whatsoever so you can squirrel everything away.
![[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv_snapshot_00.05_[2016.04.03_22.24.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0y7U0wA.jpg "[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv snapshot 00.05 [2016.04.03 22.24.30]")
>>340627512
>>group eventually disbands since we can't kick both healers
Mistake, they would have been replaced immediately.
>>340627690
Wealth in an MMO has no value unless it's utilized.
>>340627448
Faeries not a bad choice it's active and sometimes has community events going on. Gilgamesh is probably the most populated NA server if you can get on their you'll be able to find parties for just about anything 24/7. I'd avoid any /vg/ servers unless you want erp, avatarfagging, e-"drama" where grown men argue over who's catgirl avatar erp'd with someone else's catgirl avatar.
>>340626845
>Just like how dragonskin maps on 3.0 release needed 8 people but in reality all that was needed was a single tank and healer
It doesn't matter how easy or hard it is because there's going to be a leaderboard. Oh great you got to floor 200 in 2 hours with one hand behind your back? Someone did it in an hour 40 while blind.
You can go in solo as X class and see how you square up against other X class and that itself confers prestige.
>>340627684
Also mention you're from /v/, but don't be a memer.
![[HorribleSubs] Fushigi na Somera-chan - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_01.23_[2016.04.02_22.27.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6bRRmfZ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fushigi na Somera-chan - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 01.23 [2016.04.02 22.27.07]")
>>340627780
Faerie is the unofficial lgtbbq server.
>>340627448
Dungeons and most raids are data center wide, so your server doesn't matter a lot.
However when it comes to specific end game raids you can't use the features and need to use party finder until they introduce the cross datacenter pf entries. Gilgamesh, Ultros and Leviathan are the top 3 populated servers. Gilga is considered the "best" at raiding but they're still majority awful. I recommend Levi personally since it's large enough and doesn't have the Gilga cancer.
>>340627284
>Trove
>More detail into the company and cash shop than the gameplay
I'm surprised there's more backlash about the company and cash shop and not the repetitive gameplay that stays the same for 10k fucking power levels outside of how hard an enemy will hit and how much damage they will take.
>tfw your house is so nice you keep getting random pms from people walking past and looking around inside.
>>340627950
I've come across more people openly promoting themselves as gay on gilga than I ever did on faerie
>>340598061
Full of ERP and not a single soul that actually wants to play the game.
But that's probably because I tried to play it with /vg/, don't do that anon.
>Haven't played an MMO since Guild Wars 1
>Try out FFXIV because I'm bored out of my mind and I like Final Fantasy
>Maximum graphic settings, maximum music volume, maximum enjoyment
FFXIV may not be the best MMO, but it's just really nice. It's comfortable/comfy. I'm still only level 25 on all classes (because I'm learning them all) but I'm still having fun.
I just wish there was more of a general chat in the game because I haven't really talked to anyone.
>>340598410
wow u guys clearly never played ff11 these two games are fundamentally different. ffx1 was about slowpaced combat between either 1v1 monster that every fight by yourself meant you could die to almost anything and even a party of6 could lose to something out of there strength range.
team comp mattered far more in ff11 than it did in ff14 and your trump card abilities had a 2hr cooldown, your weaponskills couldnt just be flung out willy nilly you had to build the limit gauge you actually had to grind your weapon level to unlock new moves and not just get to 60 then do a story quest.
armor fucking matters in ff11 to the point you macro swap your armor mid combo to get better effects off.
so dont fucking tell me this is ff11 with a new coat of paint when youve obviously got no idea wtf your talking about and just said oh its got the job system in it so its just ff11 herp derp dumbass
>>340628171
That's just because gays are attention whores, no reason to cry for attention when you're not the only snowflake around.
>>340628257
>I just wish there was more of a general chat in the game because I haven't really talked to anyone.
Shout becomes the general chat once you get to max level in idyllshire
>>340628257
Join the novice network, theres always people chatting in there.
I'm considering re-joiningby transferring my PS3 account to PS4. Last I remember is buying Heavensward, getting to around Level 53'ish on my black mage? Then my subscription ran out and exams started. Should I even bother?
>>340628740
yeah, heavensward is pretty awesome
Heavensward 3.0 was great but too long. 3.1 sucked. 3.2 was great. 3.3 is turning out to be really great. Heavensward is a very enjoyable expac and I enjoyed finishing the 3.3 storyline yesterday with that great trip down memory road. The fights and music from 3.3 have all been top notch.
Mother fucking Ozma. Geometric energy orb of doom and he was just as annoying as ever to deal with.
>100 levequests
>11 Amber
Holy shit this is retarded.
>>340628903
>3.2 was great
6 story quests
Lore grinding
>>340627950
>>340628171
I'm on cactuar where there's two 4chan guilds and I rarely see anyone acting like a flaming attention whore. Then again, it could be a different story during the evening (NA)
>>340628981
Would you rather have 6 story quests of plot-relevant action or 15 story quests of finding Doman children?
>>340628960
>had a shitload of moonstones I didn't need
>sold it in 3.1
FUCK
Why is FFXIV so comfy?
>That world
>That music
>Those zones
>Those characters
>>340629060
I like reading npc dialogs and running around more than being afk waiting for my raid queue to pop.
Maybe I'll finally get a bolt before my 20th try!
FFXIV is so fucking boring without any quests to do. All the magic and comfy is put into their quests and as soon as they stop i get bored and stop wanting to play.
>>340629543
housing is pretty comfy
>>340628981
Story was enjoyable
Sephirot Ex was a cool fight
Feast while having some flaws in design is a really good pvp mode.
Midas normal and Savage is really fun and challenging.
Lot's of positive balance changes and improvements.
Halls of the novice to help new player begin learning, since people always complain to SE about not doing enough to help new players learn, even though they do everything to help new players learn.
I enjoyed 3.2 a lot.
>>340628981
It was better than that shitfest 3.1
Holy shit, hullbreaker 2 times in a row roulette, such a shitty dungeon so boring and takes forever.
>Fractal Continumm Remix
Getting Mega Man X vibes from it please use it again, Yoshi and I wont call you a hack ever again.
>>340629076
Because it has atmosphere and there's a lot of small things and little inconveniences that get you immersed in the world and involved with your character even if you aren't a roleplayer. Which is something a lot of modern mmo'swowhave forgotten about.
>>340629946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkTlY_YQBlg
>>340629946
You can thank Soken for that. He is truly a boon for this game.
>>340630068
I'd love to see him work on other FF games too. A lot of people ignore FF MMO games shame his music isn't heard by many.
>>340630068
>Soken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQPSEQBx1VU
>>340627780
Is that young Matoya and lolyshtola?
>>340629946
Fractal is still the best expert since 3.0, I'll never get tired of it.
The others just piss me off, doors everywhere so shitters can't speed run them.
I played a bit for a while before Heavensward
Then I started playing again a little more after Ninja came out
I think I might give it another try if/when Samurai comes out or if they give a big buff to Machinist
>>340630836
>doors everywhere so shitters can't speed run them.
You talk about other dungeons but this describes fractal perfectly.
What's the hottest new craft to make a shitload of money with?
>>340630836
Fractal is great and I agree the dungeon design in Heavensward really isn't the greatest, don't care about how linear they are, they just don't do it for me.
Fractal also reminds me how XIII's enemies fit much better in XIV than they do their original game.
If i remove someone from my friends list will they still have me listed on their list?
>>340630974
Machinist and bard always gonna be bad, they don't want to buff them because they give dps increase to everyone else. Machinist literally does 100% more complex things for only half as much dps as every other dps except bard.
>>340631073
Yes, it sucks.
Just did hullbreaker hm and lmao, what hilariously inappropriate underwear for an officer to be wearing.
>>340631073
What does it matter? Regret ERPing with a femboi?
>>340630989
Even so, mobs don't take 5 minutes to die like the 3.2 dungeons.
>>340629781
>Sohr Khai is great
>Hullbreaker is shit
Feels like flipping a coin every time I sign up for Expert.
>>340631153
She wants to be sexy for the person she cares about, please understand.
>>340628903
The memory lane questline was great.
>Pay respects to a friend.
>>340631231
>Sohr Khai is great
Sohr khai is great up until the horse which someone always manages to fuck up no matter how many times I explain it to them
>>340631083
Matoya must have aged like butter.
>hullbreaker HM
Thanks SE, I didn't want to run Expert anyway.
I'll just do beastman dailies.
>>340631124
>>340631183
fucking hell, i want to shake off this annoying bastard that just says hello and leaves conversations hanging, shit is annoying and grating as fuck
>>340631083
Just how fucking old is that cat?
>>340631003
chimera leather
>>340631354
It's nice having a dungeon that can actually kill you for once. Granted you have to be really zonked out for it to happen, but I still appreciate it.
>Lost City Hard
>The final boss's only gimmick is that it heals/revives itself, hurr so threatening
>>340631365
>aged like butter
I'd say she's doing alright considering that she's pretty ancient, she's at least as old as louisoix
>>340631519
Y'shtola isn't that old matoya was already old when she started training her
>>340631083
Matoya is like 100 years old, not 40. Yshtola is not even 25.
>>340631383
What's so bad about Hullbreaker HM?
>First boss is basically the WoL vs the entirety of the Sirens
>Second boss is against the first boss of FFVI
>Final boss is against fucking Mistbeard
I got hyped for every one of those bosses and the trash was fun too. It was a training gauntlet, so I expected to be fighting trained animals and members of the Malestrom.So we have Hullbreaker HM for the Maelstrom, the MSQ for the Immortal Flames, when is Twin Adders going to have it's moment in the spotlight?
>>340631650
>Matoya is like 100 years old, not 40
I never said she was?
>Ixal daily item turn ins
>Requested: Hempen Pantalettes
>Beastmen want human ladies' underwear
>see new pvp mode and get stoked thinking it's gonna be another seal rock 72man shitshow or small feast type battle
>it's 8v8v8
>the team that doesn't fight but instead back caps and burns crystals as soon as they spawn wins
>you can't fight people destroying the crystal because if you aren't burning it you're just being a detriment to your party
>small map that promotes camping the middle just out of attack range until crystals spawn
How can one company consistently fuck up like this? How hard is it to play your own god damn game.
>>340631153
It really annoys me that the GC uniforms don't actually have leg armor that's part of the set.
>>340631183
Not him but whenever I resub to an MMO again I delete all of my friends and make new ones.
NO SURVIVORS
>>340631153
What did you expect? She's a catslut
>>340631693
Never, we lost our commanders and nobody cares.
>>340631554
More dungeons should have borderless, rotating arenas.
>>340631693
Because all the boss fights are either boring, tedious or both.
>An add fight with almost zero mechanics
>Slippy ice mechanic has never been fun.
>Mega-weakified version of Brayflox HM final boss plus "fun" chest choosing mechanic.
>>340631693
Twinadders already got everything in the twelveswood, like odin and shit.
>>340631778
You don't wear pants under a dress.
>>340631693
>Thinking worst company deserves a dungeon
>>340631623
I guess it's just the fans wanting to have a fuckable Matoya in their art.
>>340632021
>worst company
Not as long as Qt-E-Senna is in charge!
>>340632021
We have the best leader anyway.
So do we still have to do void ark to get mhachi farthing? Penny only drops from the newest 24 man.
>>340632356
She got to appear in the remembrance quests! Sweeping Moghome's floor again, I guess.
>>340600471
I agree with this and I play the game regularly. I wish MMOs were more about living and breathing worlds than "click a button find a party do instanced content"
God damn it, I hate what WoW did to this genre and the people that comment "Oh, so you're complaining because it's a MMO?" apparently never experienced MMOs that don't follow this shit.
>>340632461
To be honest famalam, I wish they'd make it somewhat where you have to journey with a party to even get to where the dungeon entrance is. That would be interesting.
>>340605074
>how pathetic are you to try to infer its not? it quite literally is, and its one of the best sandbox mmos in a long time.
just because BDO has a shitload of skills to level up does not make it a sandbox, a real sandbox makes players shape the world so it affects other players
BDO is as much of an sandbox as GW2, they are very similar games
in fact even Archeage is much more of a sandbox than BDO and yet it was never shilled as one, it was always called a hybrid by its creators
>>340632419
Yes, but beside look eso gear aren't worth anything now.
>>340602118
but how will I be a catboi slut healer if Im not a miqo'te angry bird?
>>340631693
It's another boring "prove you worth, WoL!" dungeon
>Every single little segment is gated
>First boss is just adds
>Y'mir doesn't even have a targetable shell to blow the WoWfags out
>Mistbeard was pretty boring despite the buildup
And I should mention that most Hard Mode dungeons have new areas, this one kinda had one, Y'mir's save otherwise it was just the same scenery even more streamlined.
>>340632881
Meant to say cave instead of save.
>>340632881
I think I've only seen one single person say they like Hullbreaker HM. It's one of the most uninspired shits ever.
>>340633245
Even the OF doesn't like it.
I'd like an Adders dungeon, but we lost our commanders, it would just be monsters and Ampador zombies like always.
Gridania is such a mess, the gods' quivers do more than the twin adders.
>>340633245
>>340632881
I'm actually a sucker for "prove your worth!" scenarios. Doubly so if the people I beat complement me or are flabbergasted at how awesome I am.
>>340634081
Sohr Kai is one too except it doesn't suck.
>>340634149
Sohr Kai is more of a "prove that you're worthy to fight an epic enemy"
Hullbreaker HM is a "prove you're better than everyone else"
>>340634332
For me it felt more like Hraesvelger wanted to also give the WoL a dry run before fighting NiggNogg.
New thread bros?
>>340600471
FFXIV is nothing more than the concept of a themepark, linear-progression MMO taken to its logical conclusion. What's the point in having builds when everyone will just run the optimal one? Who cares about difficulty when everything gets replaced anyway? Even with things like trinkets or shit you have to plunder old content for, eventually you are going to collect everything you need and be "done". All gear treadmill games follow these ideas to some extent, no matter how much they obfuscate it with tedious grinds and huge amounts of gear.
The only truly worthwhile MMO design is one that is sandbox style, open-ended, based around PvP (A human is the only opponent who can dynamically react to your playstyle and strategies. Scripted boss fights will never be more than team jumprope), and where the primary objective is competing with other players for resources and territory, rather than character progression.
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