How is FFXIV right now?
>>340598061
Enough ass grabbers to still make threads about it where as every other mmo sticks to itself.
It's reddit tier shitposting the mmo. Because it's not good and a shit load of people want to feel confirmation bias over their purchase because they just picked up 11 with a new coat of paint and plays like a worse version of wow. It's the biggest joke in mmos right now.
>haven't leveled up any crafting since heavensward started
>kind of excited for Moogle Crafting as an incentive to level it
>Hey remember those god awful moogle sidequest chains that were so bad the devs apologized for how bad they were?
>well they're mandatory to even start Moogle Beast Tribe
WORLD FULL WAITING IN QUEUE.
Pretty good. If you like theme park MMOs that is. Story is nice, music is great. Gameplay is just as mind numbing as any other MMO especially if you play DPS. End game is nothing but playing dungeons/raids to gamble for better equipment.
Of course, you're gonna need friends or else suffer the pubs who can't comprehend not standing in the big glowing spaces.
Pretty bad. Almost every server has bled a significant amount of players except for a few big ones. The content is alright, but it's really just more of the same we've had in ARR and so far every attempt at something new flopped horribly.
If you still wanna play it there's things that are fun and enjoyable and there's things to do but if you didn't like it before nothing they've added since is gonna win you over.
>>340598061
Depends. If you've liked it in the past it just got a new patch with new dungeons, a new raid, more story, more Hildibrand, etc.
If you didn't like HW or never liked FFXIV at all, this current patch will likely not change your mind.
>>340598581
>plots were in high demand
>they decided to wait for a certain time before putting the server back up
>pic related
>all plots sold before halfway through queue
You would think they would randomly stagger the plot releases like "oh hey we're releasing the plots to purchase here...now." instead of all at once so jews can snatch them all up
>>340598947
For what it's worth personal houses are almost entirely useless fluff.But I have one on a high pop server so what do I know
>>340598715
It's because people are moving to the good servers while leaving the shitty ones
>>340598531
You can get them done in 30 minutes. Pucker up, faggot.
>>340599417
And why are they shitty, could it be because everybody's leaving? It's a circle that's mostly caused by the state of the game rather than player decisions.
>>340598581
>Of course, you're gonna need friends or else suffer the pubs who can't comprehend not standing in the big glowing spaces.
Fucking Ozma man. I thought japs were supposed to be good, had the other healer keep getting hot by the beam when it would transform into a pyramid. Happened like 6 times before they finally realized they should move our of the way like everyone else.
>>340598947
>Already have 3 houses on Balmung
>Not really inspired to get another, but fuck it I'll try
>Get a medium in lavender beds
>Enjoy those salty tears
What makes XIV better than WoW?
>>340599793
It has fucking auto face target.
>>340599417
I'm on one of those shitty servers, should I transfer or just make a new character?
>>340599576
They're shitty because they're not high pop and probably not legacy.
>>340599629
I never got past Fagball or whatever the emo demon's name is because mechanics are too hard for pubs
how bad is Ozma
>>340599793
Everything. The music especially.
>>340599793
>What makes XIV better than WoW?
Even less skill involvement with the combat and being tied into a sub forever because houses can't be held.
Now ask what makes Wildstar better then XIV.
The fact the game won't force you to play it if you wanna keep your shit.
>>340599996
Worse, have fun with people panicking when they get marked with an AoE and standing in the wrong place so you get hit by 3 of them.
>>340599996
Ozma's the easiest one, desu.
ffxiv is the culmination of everything wrong with mmos condensed into one game
if you play it you support killing an entire genre
>>340599996
Enjoy being wiped by one retard out of place.
>>340600112
This x1000
Best soundtrack
>>340600129
Bait
>>340600303
Like?
>>340600303
Bait
>>340600379
>>340600449
- Rewards are basically worthless and 100% completely replaced every few months. Nothing is unique, special, or actually valuable.
- Endgame is uninspired Simon Says where it's more important to know the fights' mechanics than it is to be good at your job unless they throw in a DPS check.
- Patronizingly easy content. Like... easy easy EASY. Players routinely reach high ilvl while still being clueless about how to play their class. All difficulty is artifical in the form of team-jumprope + OHKO.
- World pretty aesthetically but bland, static, and plastic with no threat or adventure. Virtually impossible to die outside.
- No risks taken with design. New content often feels like triage-mode development, trying to keep people interested.
- Zero-accountability status-quo development in keeping with SE's "you will play our game our way" mentality.
- Instances are 100% completely scripted. Fights are Identical every time you do it to the point you can run them with your eyes closed after one clear, or less if you watched a vid.
- Terrible, toxic community, likely thanks to all of the above.
- Virtually no character customizability. Truly only one "best" way to play every job in the game.
- Fastest way for players to get something they want is to not play the game thanks to SE's overnerfing everything constantly. Eg. having access to better gear AND getting absurd amounts of echo AND having mechanics watered down to the point your greatest risk of failing a run, no matter your ilvl, is of suffering a stroke in real life.
- Content and grind designed to eat up as much of people's time as possible while being just okay enough they won't get fed up. Even stuff as simple as the movement speed is -just- fast enough for most people to not get annoyed.
>>340600303
That was quite literally WoW, which you gladly supported. MMOs as a genre have already been killed, games like FFXIV which embody everything wrong with the post-WoW landscape are the result of your actions.
>>340600303
I wish there was a open do-whatever MMO that didn't take 1000 hours to even get started.
>>340600475
ffxiv literally copied everything wow did and made it shittier
there is literally no creative bone in any ffxiv game developer
>>340600303
>implying the genre isn't already dead
>>340600471
let it be known that I actually made this entire argument/post back in 2013 and it is STILL ALL COMPLETELY RELEVANT
your game sucks
it is absolutely abhorrent
>>340600565
That's the point of what I just said, WoW killed the genre, the lack of creativity and originality in modern MMOs is because of that.
>>340600471
>toxic community
There's that meme again.
>>340600798
nice way to completely ignore all the things that actually have to do with the game
you must have agreed with all of them
Its the best MMO on the market not counting the PvP.
As with all MMO, you need a good guild to enjoy things. Though the gameplay is the most fun of any other MMO. Esspeccially with WoW Legion gameplay being the dumbest its ever been.
>>340598061
I'll bite
Pretty boring if you prioritize gameplay or music over graphics/animationkeep smashing buttons to make sure to launch your spell at time to not lose dps. controller oriented so....
Plus, if you don't mind doing all the dungeons over and over on daily basis you -may- find it enjoying.
>>340600379
Scrips
Shitty tick ratio
Literally unable to cast spells because your current animation is long as fuck
Personally, something that really bothers me are the ass long loading times on every corner (I'm using 6600k with SSD for fucks sake) and forced cutscenes
MSQ kicking your balls "do NOT create alts". Every 1-2 patches they add or remove items/quests/mechanics that make you want to kill yourself for not playing on multiple characters.
>inb4 not creating multiple characters
Even if you don't like it, doesn't matter, as long as you understand the point of creating multiple characters. Even on games like PSO2 is fun to have multiple alts, unlike XIV.
>>340600857
>muh toxick cumminity
>>340600867
Trying to get used to clunky and slow ass tick-rate servers is like trying to take a knot off my throat.
>>340600471
So, its an MMO?
You what else is telling?
The fact that the threads for this game on /v/ are filled with completely newfags who have played this game for probably a couple months.
It has no longevity. People don't play this game for years like they did with WoW and other MMOs, they play it for a couple months and quit.
>>340600973
Its worth it. Depending on the class, has more depth than other MMO.
Some classes are more complicated than others, this being purposeful so anyone can find something they can enjoy.
Not saying FFXIV is perfect, only that its the best MMO there is currently and its not being dethroned anytime soon.
>>340599875
If you're trying to get on Balmung, the only way is through a world transfer - character creation is always closed. For the other worlds, you can create characters easily if you want to avoid the $18 transfer fee. Getting on more populated servers, like Gilgamesh, might require some timing, since they tend to be full. Try right after maintenance or early in the morning.
So which servers are populated/good and which are shit?
>>340600676
So you're judging the game on its current status based on what you played 3 years ago?
>>340600475
>>340600565
Hey guys I'm way the fuck over here playing Black Desert, but I just wanted to let you know that this game I'm playing is awesome and I'm having a good time without being a shit eating cunt faggot that needs to validate that their lives were ruled by poop sock faggots.
Everquest was where the train wreck started, every other theme park mmo follows the same garbage one arm bandit rules. Stop playing theme parks if you truly believe they are garbage. You let poop sock faggots set the shitty trends in mmos, not the casuals. The casuals were simply a result of a greater evil forum whiners.
>>340598410
This is actually accurate.
I played it from 2.1 to 3.1. Heavensward was dreadful and shows absolutely no sign of getting better, according to other addicts still suffering on there.
Fucking tragic.
>>340601106
Considering it has one of the fastest release schedules of any MMO, it kinda works out. People come in for a month or two, leave, then a month or two later new patch and they're back.
>>340601162
What has changed? What have they updated to make better since it became ARR 3 years ago? Nothing.
It's literally THE. SAME. EXACT. SHIT.
>>340599793
The communityjust kiding
>>340601189
>BDO dev trying to trick Amerifats into playing their latest P2W garbage semi-open world 'sandbox' MMO
Fuck off, faggot.
>>340601250
>People come in for a month or two, leave, then a month or two later new patch and they're back.
>mfw this is what I'm doing
Fuck why can't I just quit, I've been subbed for about a week and already I don't feel like playing anymore.
>>340601108
Shitty mmo that garters attention from mouth breathers doesn't make it the best just makes it the most marketable.
Black Desert is the best of the best right now, people just shit tier players in video games now so they can't handle anything that requires a fucking brain.
>>340601250
It's easy to release complete shit.
FFXIV "raids" contain the same amount of bosses as regular WoW dungeon. A single raid in WoW has more bosses than 5 ffxiv raids.
And the raids are always in a singular room. It's not hard to design that.
>>340600471
lol
>>340601265
Ah, so you're just a shitposter/sperg who's still angry and salty about a game after three fucking years and never played the content that's been added, gotcha.
>>340601207
The new raid tier, dungeons, and trial show a clear understanding of what players disliked about the initial content of Heavensward, and unlike other MMO they are actively trying to give players more and different stuff to do.
You need to stop listening to 4chan. This is the place that proclaims something shit and then ignores any and all patches, parading around old information as still current.
>>340601108I really like this meme lover skeleton
>>340601451
salty? noo...
I predicted heavensward would be shit when it was announced back in 2014
and guess what? it was
I feel vindicated.
>>340601571
3.3 content is pretty fun, you should try it. The raid is amazing.
>>340601250
There hasn't been a patch for 5 months now, they are running dry as they have copied everything else. Plagiarism and cynicism only go so far before your company begins to shit the bed.
>>340601375
>BDO
>Requiring a brain
BDO shills out in full force today.
>>340601571
>vindicated
>completely wrong
>>340601375
>black desert is the best of the best right now
You cant be serious. My god, are you this salty?
>>340601405
Yes. Compare to WoW. The game thats known for its large amount of recent engaging relevant content in all levels of the game.
>>340601571
>i said something would be shit 2 years ago, and /v/ said it's shit. my life has meaning now
>>340600471
Bait copypasta spam posted by obsessive hater
How do I make friends and an FC in this game? I never really see people talking outside of duty finder.
>>340601631
did they create a new colorful dance choreography for plays to memorize and dance to? of course they did
>>340601696
me? obsessive? I haven't regularly posted about ffxiv in like 8 months. the game is too dead to care about.
>>340601642
>Recent patch
>Took 4 months to release
FFXIV has a history of not waiting long between patches.
>>340601787
Strike up a conversation with someone.
>>340601787
you don't
the game actively makes socializing more challenging and meaningless
enjoy trying to get into a clique
>>340601106
>literally talking right out of his ass
Legacy player here. Played 1.0 and haven't unsubbed since ARR launched. The game is great.
>>340601945
Every game ever has cliques.
The playerbase is still terrible at the fucking game.
I have been in
SIX
DIFFERENT
PARTIES
and NONE OF THEM
could clear a normal mode Midas tier MONTHS after release
QUICKTHINX IS NOT THAT FUCKING HARD
KILL THE HEART AND DON'T GET HIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDon't even get me fucking started on the infuriating waste of time that was DF Ozma on day one. Not a waste of time in the sense that people were learning, a waste of time in the sense that people refused to fucking pay attention when people were telling them what they were doing wrong, or explaining mechanics multiple times over. Also, obnoxious faggots being totally nonchalant about the fact that they were bringing the entire alliance down.
>>340599996
>we get him down to like 10%
>people start getting lazy and die
>wipe
>same thing happens with ozma
>same thing happens with final boss
It took 3 times longer then it should.
>>340601972
what the fuck kind of argument is that
its like saying just because you've been eating shit since its born that means eating shit is ok
>>340598061
Been playing for two months. Completely worth trying. Each class can be played on a single character. Leveling doesn't get boring unless you simply don't like grinding, as each class has plenty of depth. It has an extremely active community both in-game and elsewhere. A new expansion may also be announced at E3, but we'll see.
>>340601132
Here's some data. Balmung and Gilgamesh are the two biggest English-speaking servers.
>>340601642
At this point, you've outed that you actually don't know what you're talking about, so I think it's best if you just drop it.
Game got a content patch last Tuesday.
If you play as a Miqo'te you are a blight and must be purged
>>340601643
Hey it's true, people are bad at video games now. You have to build an mmo for the lowest common denominator, now that WoW is losing popularity the pick up sticks show is a bunch of weeb normies latching onto the corpse of WoW which is Final Fantasy franchises, so an mmo around the garbage is just as fitting. But they can't get to boisterous for their own good that would be an Icarus situation for them so just copy one of their prior games, fix up the textures and add some fluff bam 11 turns into 14 which in turn goes into the garbage shambled corpse of the wow community.
Lowest common denominator, that's who buys this garbage. And the world is mostly made up of people shitting in the woods and in our water supply not really contributing anything worth a fuck besides a burger in a box. That's why 14 is successful.
There's always gotta be one mmo built for those brain dead jockies or they will invade any good mmo and ruin it. Like they did with Everquest and like they did with WoW.
XIV just skipped the step of normies letting them butt fuck the game to death and made it exclusively for them.
>>340602023
of course it is, it's evident when a top 500 WoW guild can go to ffxiv and become a top 10 guild there
>>340601207
>>340601207
>Heavensward was dreadful and shows absolutely no sign of getting better
Complete bullshit.
>>340601945
>game actively makes socializing more challenging and meaningless
How so? It's kind of the point of an MMO.
Who here has characters on multiple servers?
>>340601108
>Meme SkeletonFujo get off /v/ and get back to making the gamu you slut
>>340602053
>People don't play this game for years like they did with WoW and other MMOs, they play it for a couple months and quit.
>Guy says he's been playing since 1.0
>WHAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS THAT
pretty delusional
>>340599996
Funny enough Ozma is every bit as RNG bullshit as he was in FFIX, except this time the RNG involves getting a single shitter that wipes the raid every time.
>>340601467
But I'm not listening to 4chan. I'm listening to the 7 players in the raid team I set up that are still playing. I founded an FC with 175 people in it at its peak too. We all got our Of Dragons Deep titles, Master Caster, Melusine Mauler, et. al.
The game used to be good, now it isn't. There is NOTHING comparably as good.
>>340602162
no general chat
no trade chat
entirely instanced
>>340602140
All online games are built from lowest common denominator.
All of them.
>>340602162
They're talking out their ass. FFXIV is the easiest I've had finding groups of people since EQ back in the ol days.
>>340602023
>6 parties
>Can't clear normal Midas
I've never run into a Midas PUG that couldn't clear. Maybe you're the weak link?
>>340602043Try wasting an hour and a half wiping to Ozma and Forgall, only to vote abandon because there literally wasn't enough time left to clear.Twice.
>all these /vg/ fags trying to defend this shitty game
that guy's list is pretty valid for complaints
i would add the fact all servers are located in fucking canada, your ping is shit, theres no player addons, gold sellers are rampant as fuck, and themepark is boring as fuck and endgame content is so easy and negligible everyone completes a new patch in under 1 afternoon , then you are expected to sit there and just do boring themepark grind for 3 months until next patch
>>340601643
not him but BDO is clearly the better mmo
the design of FFXIV is the safest wow clone concept known to man. every single class is just a wow clone, theres nothing original about it, all that lore and fanservice, and yet every class is the most boring mundane experience possible, that youve all experienced before from 10 other mmos
and BDO being sandbox means endgame is infinitely more fun and diverse of an experience
while FFXIV is just sit around hopping around your FC house/ your own house idling for dungeon finder queue times to pop
FFXIV is literally cancer, and the people that flocked to it are cancerous as fuck toxic as fuck worst of the worst kind of mmo players, the shit loving little faggots who MUST steamroll all mmo content ASAP just because and burn through an entire expansion's treadmill in under 1 week. you're pretty much why all mmos are shit now, and you support the death of the mmo genre with your toxic bullshit
dont get me started on all you little pathetic tryhard faggots who couldnt even do the endgame raiding but still manage to sit in the /vg/ thread acting like tryhard faggots
>>340600471
To be honest I completely agree with everything you've said but could I ask for your opinion on how you'd improve the game if put into a creative position? Preferably within a realistic scope
>>340602118
Whatcha gonna do about it, faggot? Cry? HAHAHAHAH
>>340602237
why would 1 person out of hundreds of thousands matter
"I'm immune to rat poison, everybody should drink rat poison now"
>>340602207I just posted the image randomly. Is it from a game?
>>340602140
Yeah FFXIV is braindead garbage I agree. So is BDO.
>>340602272
I actually have to commend the devs for making a 'difficult' 24 man raid this time
by difficult I mean requires the player to do more than sit still. Jesus fuck Void Ark was so god damn boring
340602353
>/vg/
Who even posts on that shitty board? It's all just cliquey circlejerks, even if you actually like FFXIV
>>340601571
It's not hard to be wrong about predictions when you're deluded enough to just maintain your dumb opinion about something regardless of facts and information
>>340601787
you don't
theres literally no community to the game
everytime i would load back into this game i'd comment about how fucking dead and lifeless the servers are, then all the cockroaches would come scurrying out pretending as if they were actively talking the entire time
>>340602279
>how to spot someone who has never actually played the game
>>340602442Shortstack from Tumblr is making a hentai monster girl visual novel, picture you posted is a meme loving skeleton who baneposts verbally
>>340602463
meant to quote >>340602353
fucked that up pretty bad
>>340602279
What's wrong with instances?
>Chats
Linkshells. People try to actually avoid gilspammers. General/trade chat would just make it easier for them.
>>340602525
I haven't played this game since April 2014, yet I still know everything about it because everything stays the same :)
>>340602308
I was one of the last men standing in the party every time, and I'm a black mage, one of the squishiest, turret-iest classes.
I was marking the fucking hearts because other people weren't.
Healers were not standing on the gas vents. Tanks were losing aggro. DPS were ignoring the status effect in the cage and killing themselves and then being all like "why did I die wtffff???" The cat was right next to Quickthinx half the time, and the other half, people didn't see the heart until it was too late.
Half the party was getting rekt by the balls.
I'm not making this up.
>>340602353
>BDO being sandbox
Except it's not, you shill. It's BARELY open world as is.
>>340602579
I have never seen a linkshell promoted except for hunts.
>>340602321
Honestly you probably should have vote abandoned sooner.
>one alliance keeps losing half their members before blackhole
>>340598061
Same as usual - gated content: the game
>>340602524
>wahhh nobody talks to me
Maybe get a personality or actually try talking to people.
>Doing Ozma
>My Alliance's tank simply cannot comprehend the Ball phase mechanics and just dances around incoherently, killing most of my alliance
zzzzzz
>>340602359
make boss fights less scripted
remove all the fucking invisible walls
add gear that matters like trinkets or something
remove completely static stats from gear
add midtier content instead of patronizingly easy and artificial difficulty hard
thats just a start
>>340602353
You played the game three years ago, and are judging it based only that. You have no fucking ground.
>>340602761
No one ever talks
>>340602634
So you were doing such shit DPS you didn't get aggro when other people died? Okay.
>>340602457
This x 100. I really hope they don't pussy out with the last raid in the series and make it boring and mindless again.
>>340602853
Then you start a conversation with them. Stop being part of the problem you're complaining about, you fuckboi.
>>340602445
BDO is full action combat with animation canceling
XIV is tab target with a global cooldown mechanic.
You've never played the game or you would know that BDO is the exact opposite of every other mmo today.
>>340602664
I didn't call one, but other people did. Multiple times.
And they got shat on for it. Deservedly so, in theory - it was day fucking one, after all - but people literally were not paying attention to anything.
>one alliance keeps losing half their members before blackhole
That was my alliance, except it was more than half.We were the fucking laughingstock of the raid because our healers were dogshit and our tank was an obnoxious cunt who kept lasering us and fucking the mechanics up and dying, leaving the rest of us with nothing to do but follow suit (especially with that constant laser attack he uses in square form). I remember, one of our healers was dead literally five seconds into the fight. Multiple times, none of us made it to Black Hole.
I can't wait for Deep Dungeons. They look like fun and today they revealed in interviews that they can be used to farm xp and get relevant to current content weapons.
>>340602968
About what?
>>340602979
>animation canceling
Yeah not exactly rocket science, faggot. You could do that in B&S too and that was braindead garbage too.
>>340602524
I love how completely false this statement is. There are plenty of linkshells and FCs you can join. I'm in a linkshell and an FC that's always active. Pretty sure you could have found one too.
I love Aquapolis a LOT more then i should. It's such a simple concept but i don't think the thrill of opening those doors will ever get old for me.
>>340602979
the combat and characters are good but everything else about bdo is pretty garbage
the cash shop item prices are completely outrageous and regular gear is ugly as fuck
>>340603082
How did you find your FC and LS?
>>340603097
I know, right? Seems like it's much easier to get to floor 7 than the 1.5% chance people were saying.
>>340602861I was parsing, that definitely was not the case.
I was actually the one pulling Quickthinx off the tank, most of the time they lost aggro.
>>340603082
>WORKS FOR ME xDDDD
>>340603173
Well, if it is like SE said and the doors have a 50/50 chance of being right it IS 1.5%. But after playing a bunch of times and getting to level 5/6 somewhat frequently i'm starting to believe that picking a door literally doesn't matter, it's just a dice roll. SE really likes lying about % chances in this game for some reason.
>>340603082
To be fair a lot of LS are RPing catsluts and most FCs are too big to be bothered with each individual member
>>340602979
I find it really funny that people will unironically defend the latest "generic korean mmo" and belive that somehow it will be the first one not to go F2P after a few months and then get abandoned.
>>340603325
I've seen the last floor three times in the past 2 days after using 17 maps. Either extremely lucky or the chances aren't that bad.
>>340603203
Might also add that tanks weren't necessarily the ones dying most of the time, it was mainly DPS/healers. Tanks were just losing aggro and not positioning well.
>>340603160
Through a friend.
>>340603217
Works if you get out of your sperg shell and communicate, Anon.
>>340603373
Join small FCs.
>>340603010
>day one
Ah, yeah that was hell. I gave up when we vote abandoned after the first boss, decided I didn't give a fuck about bragging rights if I was gonna just get people as observant as a doorknob.
>>340602524
>>340603082
I really don't get how you wouldn't find a Linkshell honestly. Here's something that happened literally today to me:
>Play on Mateus, one of the deadest servers in the entire game
>Shout "Dragonskin maps, anyone in" in Idyllshire
>4 People join my party
>We talk while doing the maps, visit the Aquapolis a few times
>They add me to their friends list and invite me to a linkshell
And it wasn't the first time something like this happened either.
>>340603606
>"Want a million dollars? Well just go get a million dollars"
I actually liked 1.0 more than ARR
Don't get me wrong, it had tons of issues and I can totally understand why it bombed. But I felt like it had a better core foundation/more unique concept than ARR by a mile
I refuse to play until they make a proper SMN
XIV has by far the worst rendition of the job in the franchise. Fuck, I'd say XIV has the worst job system in general
>>340603792
the characters had ass
now everybody has a flat ass
For people that switched from a smaller server to a bigger server
did you feel bad about leaving your FC?
was it harder to make new bros with crowds of people everywhere?
>People doing map parties
>"Your map your chest loot. Random drops finders keepers"
>People somehow have the balls to complain about this
>Had some pissy catslut leave the group because they were being told not to roll on chest-items when they got literally 2.3 million gil worth of materia landing in their inventory that they got to keep
>>340603792
It did. And that's why it bombed.
2.0 was a by the numbers wow clone with an ff paintcoat, that's why it was sucessful.
>>340603889
>Proper SMN
What are you talking about anon!
Just go and play your watered down BLM you silly guy!
:^)
>>340603958
>did you feel bad about leaving your FC?
my FC was full of literal faggots who were literally sucking the FC leader's cock which I only joined because my friend did
no rugrats
>>340603972
>Going in with more than a tank and a healer
Why?
>>340604006
>>340603889
They should have just made current SMN into Evoker, and based it more around channeling primal/bahamut instead of this weird hybrid pet/dot/nuke thing
Then they could have had a proper pet class SMN. Though I'm not really sure how I'd make a dedicated pet class work in XIV. Don't really think it could
>>340603792
>But I felt like it had a better core foundation/more unique concept than ARR by a mile
This is true.
The execution was what killed it.
In came Yoshi, and instead of trying to fix the game for what it was, decided to abandon it all and just make the safest bet possible - a typical tab-target themepark MMO. Which he did an okay job at.
XIV as it stands is not a great game on its own merits - it's like a ~7/10, 7.5/10 at best, but when compared to WoW and other big MMOs in its current state, it looks a lot better.
>>340603958
Despite playing the game since 2.0, I never really found an FC to join outside ZR during launch. No one is ever social so I never found an FC to join.
>>340599996
>How bad is Ozma
Let me put it this way.
On our first attempt we one shotted the guy you're stuck at.
We then spent the next 45 minutes being annihilated by Ozma.
>>340603792
What things did 1.0 do differently? Never played it
>>340604584
literally copypasted everything
>>340604319
It really is a shame how they handled SMN in FFXIV since it's just, summon pet and then go back to DOTing
>>340604584
Better graphics and cutscenes is pretty much all I remember from 1.0 that impressed me. The Nael fight was also pretty cool.
>>340603972
I feel like i'm a cuck when it comes to this. I never managed to restrict loot rules so that i'm the only one that rolls, simply because i'd feel really bad because the way i see it everyone is using their time to help me so they should get a fair chance. Even though i do feel like i should restrict it.
>>340604584
See this map?
You can kind of tell what the actual world is like.
Literally narrow hallways and square rooms.
>>340604759
3.0 SMN got more fun with its new skills but I'd still rather have a real SMN than this WoW Warlock thing that calls itself a Summoner.
Maybe Egi glamours will help it at least look more like a summoner?They won't.
>>340602761
no nigger, nobody ever actively talks openly with the game , there is no community. its fucking lifeless and dead
>>340603082
i've probably played the game longer than you, and anyone who's played the game knows what i said is 100% fucking true.
>>340603669
>go out of your way in order to have actual engagement with community
no nigger, thats not how mmos work. FFXIV is literally the most dead community i've ever seen for an mmo, ever. its so fucking lifeless and empty and hollow.
>>340602654
>samefaging retard from a couple days ago
how pathetic are you to try to infer its not? it quite literally is, and its one of the best sandbox mmos in a long time.
but go ahead nigger, explain to me, yet again how its not a sandbox. because that worked out so well for you last time
>WAH ITS NOT FULL LOOT
>WAH YOU CANT BUILD HOUSE
>WAH THERE IS A KARMA SYSTEM
you're a literal nigger.
>>340602818
no, you fucking retard. im not that other guy who said he hasnt played since beta or w/e ive played a year ago, ive played this year, and i resubbed for 1 month just recently. and its still fucking lifeless as it ever was with all the glaring fucking laundry list of issues the game has with no fixes in sight.
>>340604838
If your map opens the aquapolis they are, at the very least, going to each get 5k gil out of the deal.
If you get down to the bottom it's something stupid like ~155k gil that everyone got, regardless of any loot from the chest. Not even counting the rares.
So they can go fuck themselves. Bring their own map if they want a chance at loot. Hell most of the chest loot shit is selling for 10k a pop these days unless you get to floors 4+.
When is palace of the dead coming out? Wasn't it supposed to come out with this patch? It was in the trailer at least
>>340605074
please cry more
3.3 is for crafters what 3.2 was for fighters.
>>340605050
>Maybe Egi glamours will help it at least look more like a summoner?
weren't Egi glamours supposed to start coming out in 3.3
I recall them saying only 1 egi glamour per patch because they're lazy as fuck
>>340605129
3.35
like two weeks from patch I think 260
>>340605074
>sandbox
>Can't actually shape the world at all
>Not even full loot
Great sandbox, senpai.
>>340605074
maybe if you were more likeable people would want to talk to you
I never went out of my way socially for anything in this game and still wound up in a nice FC and messed with some linkshells.
>>340605175
3.4 was what I heard.
So not for like another 3-4 months. And you're right, it will just be one.
>>340604584
1.0 (more post 1.18, as it's pretty different than launch 1.0) had a larger emphasis on traditional RPG elements, more akin to XI and ARR's WoW styled system
There were far more stats. Things like enmity generation, refresh, regen, skill modifiers, procs, traits etc were all things on gear, and it let to a few options in gear choices. Basic example being the WHM artifact gear. The robe came with "Cure potency +10%". This meant your cure line just healed for more. But there was another endgame robe that came with MP refresh and a huge +50 enhancement magic potency. Which meant you had stronger Regens and Stoneskins, in trade for less powerful cure casts. Things like that
In ARR, damage types are class universal. PLD always does slashing damage, even with shield bash. MNK always does blunt damage etc. In 1.0, damage types were attack independent, meaning a shield bash from a PLD would do blunt damage, while a sword strike would do slashing damage. This was important because certain damage types could incapacitate certain enemies in unique ways. Dealing blunt damage to Ifrit for example would break his horns, which would lower his natural HP regen. You could break legs which would make enemies immobile, cut off tails for different loot tables, smash skeleton's heads which would lower their accuracy/stop certain types of attacks etc
Job stones weren't a straight upgrade in 1.0. In ARR they just give you huge boosts to all your stats. In 1.0, they'd adjust your stats. Being a GLD and putting on a PLD soul stone would raise your VIT and MND, but lower your STR meaning you'd deal less damage with the stone on
Little things like that. As someone who really liked XI, I'm more interested in stats, class building, min maxing and number games than I am rote boss mechanic memorization
>>340605129
https://a.pomf.cat/yjkhab.ogg
>those laughs
Guess who's back
Why are you people even replying? You don't have to argue with him. His """""""""revolutionary"""""""""" Korean MMO will be dead in a few months and we'll still be playing FFXIV.
>>340605074
hey literal pathetic nigger fucking retard faggot! maybe if you were ever taught how to talk to people, you wouldn't have problems being social
>>340605367
For the (You)s.
>>340605050
The thing that really pisses me off about SMN is that they don't even make your LBlvl3 a summon, if they did that than to me at least it would feel a little bit like what a Summoner is supposed to be
>>340605313
>>There were far more stats. Things like enmity generation, refresh, regen, skill modifiers, procs, traits etc were all things on gear, and it let to a few options in gear choices. Basic example being the WHM artifact gear. The robe came with "Cure potency +10%". This meant your cure line just healed for more. But there was another endgame robe that came with MP refresh and a huge +50 enhancement magic potency. Which meant you had stronger Regens and Stoneskins, in trade for less powerful cure casts. Things like that
Man I wish they would do shit like this in 2.0+. Vertical progression is shit, and there's literally no customization.
In fact whatever customization ARR had they removed. Tanks? No STR vs VIT builds, just all VIT while melding STR. Healers? Gotta meld ACC because lol no accuracy
>>340605313
That does sound very good. I mean, surely we can have some of that in the current FFXIV with a bit of effort from SE? I feel like just making elemental damage types and resistances for enemies and players actually matter would go a long way to making this feel more like an RPG. If anything 1.0's system has WoW to blame for its failiure. It's too complex, people are looking for something more simple and intuitive when it comes to MMOs.
![b98fd344dc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kWQjRlH.jpg "b98fd344dc[1].jpg")
>>340605074
As someone who spent two months in a "Hardcore" guild for BDO, I'd have to say its incredibly shitty and this "Endgame" that you speak of is playing the grunil mini-game or farming Sausans for 20+hours if you want to hit 56+ t. Dommestici/Team Legacy member top 3 spots on the orwen server since launch day till I quit three weeks ago.
>>340602805
>remove all the fucking invisible walls
Tell me more about how you would do this while running it on ps3
>>340605187
I see, since I saw it in the trailer I thought it was gonna be now.
>>340605337
Oh wow nice. Well they did say they were going to bring her back right? Crazy that she is going to get her own progression story though
>>340605074
>i've probably played the game longer than you, and anyone who's played the game knows what i said is 100% fucking true.
>>340601571
This post of yours conflicts with your statement. And don't say it isn't you, because your horrible typing patterns ITT makes it too obvious that it is.
>>340605459
That would be neat if there were ever a need to use a caster LB3. Is most cases if you want a DPS LB you're gonna go with a melee one for a higher hit on the boss, at least in my experience. Maybe in Savage its different.
I've only seen the new summoner LB3 like twice since HW launched. Meteor once.
>never seen DRK or WAR in person
>or any healer one aside from the old pulse of life
So much fucking Dragonsong Dive.They really need to rework the entire LB shit but that's a different conversation than SMN being bland.
>>340605783
Edda's bit was one of the most interesting side stories from ARR. If she's actually back I would love it.
By the way one of the new mounts is Avere's head so, it probably is
>>340605459
Well, granted it's not a summon but it IS Teraflare. So at least it looks really good.
>>340605671
Funny you say top spots 3 spots in orwen because there's 10 channels and 6 rotations at sausans.
Not to mention you're a literal fucking who, that's so fucking hardcore man.
just like old times
I've gotten 75% of all (you)'s in this thread
good to know I haven't lost my touch
>>340605920
I don't know where that cheerleader comes from but I want one.
>>340606029
Heard it comes from pvp so enjoy that:^)
>>340605920
New Lanner is from Nidhogg EX
2-person Pegasus = ?
Dravanian Dandelion = Moogle beast Tribe
Avere = probably from Palace of the Dead
Red Fenrir = Probably Cash shop
White ADS = from new PVP map
Fat moogle gondola = ?
>>340600471
>- Instances are 100% completely scripted. Fights are Identical every time you do it to the point you can run them with your eyes closed after one clear, or less if you watched a vid.
>>340606204
2 person pegasus is from 5000 mentor roulettes
>>340598531
>just got all crafts/gatherers to 51
>no idea what to do from there because still undergeared/don't know where to go to farm/learn rotations
![e463736b53[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e4PJviN.jpg "e463736b53[1].jpg")
>>340605956
that doesn't make your chink grind simulator any better, I'm sorry your no name guild couldn't get mediah or any of the citys since Team legacy was too busy winning in every conflict even when they have superior numbers. The endgame is literal ass in BDO I had fun with the PVP but anything I had to spend 20+ hours doing GQ's and farming Sausans it wasn't worth. Fuck off retard
>>340606286
>haven't even done Mentor Roulette once because you have to be in a level 60 job to do it
There was no incentive to me before, still kind of isn't. I was hoping as a roulette it would either give me some relevant tomestones or be a hefty exp boost but nope
>>340606306
This page is amazing for crafting macros if you are lazy/just started crafting
http://garytay.net/ffxiv_macro/
>>340598531
>>340606306
>Mfw i finished leveling every gatherer and crafter to 60 exclusively by doing GC turn-ins today
I have no face. It took me one year but it's finally done.
>>340606335
I'm sorry you're a liar. I'm glad to see your normie guild thought they had some impact, but if I'm having to ask who the fuck you are in the same server then you didn't make an impact or actually be a good guild. Also what conflict, chimping out at a grind spot? Node wars aren't in yet you stupid nigger. Win every conflict that doesn't fucking matter. People like you were gonna quit, because you believe that you make an impact then someone who actually plays the game stomps your faggot asses and you realize you don't actually do shit or make shit.
>>340606029
15k wolf marks
>>340598531
I call bullshit, I have a bunch of moogle quests I haven't done and I was able to start the beast quests day one. Only quests that might be affected by this are the ones for the aether currents but otherwise either you trolling or been trolled.
>>340606813
Is that a lot?
>>340606851
You need to do 3 sidequest chains to unlock the moogle beast tribe. Takes about 30 minutes.
>>340599996
I feel like I've seen this guy before.
>>340599996
Is this really how this boss looks? He looks so small in game that i had trouble discerning his features, he didn't look humanoid at all to me.
>>340607114
It's an official render what do you want
>>340607185
Estinien's corrupted gay bulge looks really cool.
>>340606702
I'm just having a laugh that your still playing that game, continue talking shit you don't know about go look at the guild list on orwen and are node wars not out really? I remember that shit being promised on launch then promised 1 month after.
>>340607270
>Gay bulge
no wonder he wears the helmet. Fujoshits must have lost it
>>340604319
It worked for XI right?
>>340607629
XI SMN didn't "work".
>>340602359
this
>tfw being made fun of by the community for being a WoWfugee
I thought this was our new home bros!
>>340607846
screw them
>>340605459
Hear me out, what if they added customizable limit breaks for each job?
Each job would have 3-5 animations for each tier of limit break, and they would have to unlock them via grind/achievements.
IE monk could have an uppercut for LB1, a flurry of punches for LB2, and some sick anime shit for LB3.
Even better, Summoners could finally get primals for their LBs, like their LB3 could be summoning down Ramuh or Ifrit or something.
It would add a nice layer of customization and carrot on the stick for players.
>>340607846
>le false flagging crying faec
seriously though just at least try to pretend you've played other FF games and don't be a shitter
that way nobody will suspect you
>>340607846
there's things worse than a wowfugee.
And that's the official forumgoers for XIV
>thank god I could spend 24 USD on the Bennu instead of 5 million Gil on the Zu!
>do you have every achievement and every job to ilvl 245? There's plenty of content stop complaining
>that one warrior that joins the duty, never fails a mechanic, and leaves once it's over without saying a word
>>340608313
>that DRG whose gear breaks on the first Nidhogg attempt
Never change
>>340605518
>Healers? Gotta meld ACC because lol no accuracy
>expecting healers to DPS
Fuck right off
>>340608102
>Pay SE money to get an item that you could either farm for or save up for
>Spend the next 2 months sitting in idleshire on your mount bitching about having nothing to do
Typical, really.
>>340608313
>that healer who somehow keeps everyone from dying after the tank gets himself killed in aoe
>>340608421
>not wanting to be the cool healer that keeps everyone alive AND makes the dungeon go faster
as ast I even boost that 2k DPS monk even further, they love me and I get every commend.
>>340608694
Nobody here's saying that Ozma is hard because the mechanics are hard.
What's hard is being paired with 23 other people who need to also execute the same mechanics, which are actually some of the most complex introduced into a 24-man raid thus far (although that isn't saying too much).
And knowing the average competency of this game's playerbase, combined with day 1 learning times, you really shouldn't be surprised people were bitching.
>>340603678
>equating making friends in a MASSIVELY MULTI-PLAYER ONLINE GAME to getting one million dollars
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am
>clearing savage with static in one go
>making strawpoll of things to diciede what do next, since most of people not sure and not against different things
>everyone surprised bird farm wins
>some people actually voted for bird farm to avoid weeping city
>>340608823
>barely put effort in
>still constantly get commends
Sometimes I'll go all out and help DPS as often as possible but a lot of times I'm half assing it. Dual monitors was a mistake, makes it too easy to not have to pay attention to the game conpletely.
>>340608421
whats it like not progressing any further than duty finder
>>340608094
Who cares if I don't know what a Cloud Strife is!? I just want to play a WoWclone while I wait for Leigon.
>>340608421
What's it like to be cancer? What's it like to intentionally make the healing class boring? What's it like to not experience to fun of using AoE attacks on pulls? What's it like to not being invited to runs for being a shitter?
/poke the Calamari minion. Seriously.
>>340609179
Good because I don't give a fuck about ex or savage fights. I just sub for a month to get the new stuff done and fuck around for the rest of the time.
>>340608421
there's a reason healers have offensive spells
>>340609275
>play wow
>start getting into 14
>praised as some sort of prodigy leveling up because I'm not retarded and read what my skills do
>almost all mechanics are obvious and I rarely mess up
>even savage is a cakewalk because of my experience with wow
why is the playerbase so fucking bad? how do people not know to stack for mechanics that use the stack indicator every similar mechanic?
>>340608823
>>340609179
>>340609314
>>340609460
>people replying to this seriously
It's a meme you dips. Thanks for the (You)s though.
>>340609682
Have another on the house.
>>340609528
Because
>FF game with shitloads of fanservice so a lot of fans are playing their first MMO
>Leveling experience is basically a massive tutorial, you basically get your hand held until you really get into the gear treadmill and even then most of the content that isn't bleeding-edge has echo/is nerfed/is a lower ilvl than you are
>>340598061
Fun, just got done farming nidhogg >:3
>>340609890
What about awful raids like Midas?
>>340609729
Thank you anon, I live for these
>people with the mentor crowns are usually the worst players
anyone else noticed this?
they cant do simple fucking mechanics
Just spent like two hours with my friends cashing in the Dragonskin maps we'd been piling up. Got to the Aquapolis like six times, never made it further than the 3rd chamber.
Why can't we into RNG
>>340609940
I bitched about my Midas experience above. Shitters still can't into mechanics months after release when everyone has the content on farm and it's reduced to weekly chore status.
Midas is better than Gordias was. Coil's still overall better, though.
>>340610000
I thought it was just me, but yeah I did notice it. Usually ignoring mechanics and just standing in shit.I also noticed those 0's.
>>340610000
Considering it doesn't actually take any skill to become one, it's not surprising.
Also nice quads.
>>340610000
Yes, because their skills can't speak for themselves so they need to throw a crown up next to their name to convince themselves and new players that they're good.
Going to Bard Nidhogg Ex in my static today, will I have trouble attacking and dodging mechanics in last phase?
I don't understand how people enjoyed leveling in this game. I tried to follow the story but it was terrible. The fact they added emote quest and tried to be funny with the stale as fuck aesthetics was boring. The invisible walls and the fact that every area is loading zone made tte entire game feel less immersive. The floaty running and weak animations made the game seem subpar.
Overall it's a good starting mmo but I just couldn't get into it.
>>340610000
I never miss a chance to call a mentor out from being shit, messing a mechanic up or not doing their job. A lot of times they get pissy too since I always bring up how they are a mentor and not doing well.
>>340610000
nice quads
>>340610247
If you haven't gotten banned or at least warned I'm surprised given how easily people go muh feelings and report.
>>340610209
>tfw I beat double nidhogg my first time
>second time out of boredom and the fight was fun
>keep dying to the final phase with the plume and dash taking up half the screen because I run in one direction after plumes spawn and it's the side with the dash and I panic and get killed
>>340608102
You can be a WoWfugee and a OF goer.
>>340610528
I don't actually swear, I just say something like "Hey we have someone new, shouldn't you be doing mechanics properly seeing as you are a mentor and should be a good influence on others for what to do?
>want to do ex primals
>party finder learning parties arnt all that good
>no time for a static
what do
I want my cool weapons
