I never understood why this was the worst received Kirby game. Everything I see is reviewers disappointed about it "not being as creative as Canvas Curse."
God forbid they make a new, normally structured Kirby game for the DS, it's always been one of my favorite classic style Kirby platformers.
>>340539618
Because it was a mediocre game with no extras you could 100% the first time through in about 3-4 hours
cuz is not amazing mirror 2
Kirby's Dream Course, Kirby's Dream Land 3, Kirby Air Ride, Kirby's Return to Dream Land, and Kirby Triple Deluxe were not received as well as Kirby Squeak Squad.
>>340540302
This was the issue I had with it. The abilites it introduces and the stuff you could do with them was fun, but it feels like there's just too little content to the game itself. You can easily 100% it in a day without even consulting a guide.
Having the most disappointing final boss in a Kirby game of all things kinda hurts a little too.
Too short. It was a blast while playing it, though.
>>340539618
combining abilities was a joke
>>340539618
It was just another generic Kirby game. It's sort of difficult to surpass such great games as Super Star and 64.
It just doesn't quite do anything super well and what not.
At least seeing Kirby be a dick and jump the gun was entertaining.
>>340540690
>Having the most disappointing final boss in a Kirby game of all things kinda hurts a little too.
not as bad as this entry
>>340539618
Not only are the extras really easy to find, the level design is just not good.
Often the levels just felt like blocks put in different positions instead of a cohesive whole.
>>340540382
>even if we get amazing mirror 2 now it won't be sprite based
hold me
>>340539618
I remember playing amazing mirror and then playing squeak squad, it really dissapointed me in how inferior it felt. Beautiful sprite art though, wish animal would make a return.
>>340541826
Fagolor was much better than Dork Matter, but they're both definitely in the bottom 5 Kirby end bosses.
>>340539618
Because both Mass Attack and Canvas are better.
>>340542223
Mass Attack is boring.
Super Star Ultra > Canvas Curse > Mass Attack >>>> Shit Squad
>>340541998
We can dream, man.
>>340542403
Console Kirby games >>>>> Handheld Kirby games
>>340542493
Epic Yawn proves you wrong, familia.
>>340542603
Epic yarn is the best Kirby game btw
>>340542603
>saying epic yarn was bad
>>340542493
Handheld has SSU and Robobot so you're wrong right off the bat
>>340542701
>>340542710
>liking an even more casualized version of a casual series
Cum on step it up.
>>340542067
Dark matter/zero is the best antagonist in the series you fuckface.
>>340542893
too casual for you.
i see...
>>340542934
He's talking about Dark Nebula.
>>340542067
You meant Dark Nebula, right? Because that poor fucker was a midboss who got mistakenly hired to be a final boss.
>>340541826
0/10
The mixing abilities was top notch. Like what other Kirby game has that where you can make an ice sword?
Why did they change the name from Dark Zero to Dark Nebula?
>>340541826
He's a ripoff of Marx so he's at least half as good as that.
>>340542968
lolwut
you cant even die in epic yarn
>>340543327
Because he's not really Zero?
If I recall right he's just a very tiny piece of Dark Matter that wanted to be a final boss for some reason.
Abilities are pretty great along with mixing abilities, story, antagonists, and difficulty are some of the worst in the franchise, I know kirby itself is supposed to be lighthearted and not overly difficult but come the fuck on
>>340542878
Adv > NiDL
Better visuals, better minigames, better physics, much bigger field of vision
SS > SSU
You've got co-op and a TV, and the new subgames in the remake are boring rehashes.
RtDL > Robobot
Neither are great imo, but at least RtDL looks and sounds totally beautiful and its fun to play with friends.
DL3 > DL2
Kirby 64 has aged like milk, but it still has a lot of good stuff going for it that barely puts it above the GBA and DS games.
The only handheld Kirby better than its console counterpart is Canvas Curse.
Epic Yarn is a great game full of fun stuff, it's just not a challenge by any stretch of the word. But neither are any of the Kumazaki games.
I like all the handhelds, the console games are just better. Kirby just works better on them.
>>340542934
I wasn't talking about Dark Matter, I was talking about this Dork Matter. Don't insult people.
>>340543051
Agreed, poor thing. He came right out of left field too, they didn't give him any set up at all like they did Nightmare, Dark Matter, Zero, and Zero-Two.
>>340543327
Probably so people don't start thinking he's related to Zero, and because he's a star not an 0.
>>340539618
game feels like an afterthought with some interesting ideas that are never expanded on.
uses the life bar system which I always hated.
animal is fucking awesome
the squeak squad are boring
final boss looks fucking dumb
only cool aspect of item combination are elemental abilities combined with sword, but I think there was only a few sword variants, I don't remember.
just a bland Kirby game.
>>340542878
Don't forget Dream Land 2 and Amazing Mirror.
>>340543797
>DL3 > DL2
Graphicsfag detected.
DL2 is far superior in terms of game feel.
ONE DAY
N
E
D
A
Y
Star Dream > Sectonia > Magalor > Dark Mind > Marx > Drawcia Soul > Nightmare > Zero > Dark Matter > 02 > Dedede > Dark Nebula >Dedede on Wheelie Bike
If I missed anybody it's because I didn't play their game.
>>340542403
>Super Star Ultra
I know people like to stroke its dick, but SSU stages (the kirby ones mostly) were ridiculously short as fuck. Sure it had a fuck load of extra goddies but damn, the main course was not enough.
>>340541604
Well, I guess that makes Kirby 64 utter trash then.
>>340544316
That's the point, each sub-game is supposed to be short and have a different game design to keep things fresh.
First subgame=DL1 re-imagining
Bird subgame=branching exits
Revenge of Borb=speedrunning
Great Cave=Metroidvania
etc.
>>340539618
>Animal STILL HASN'T RETURNED
>Could've had a baddass Drill Animal mech in Robobot instead of Circus, which is a shitty and worthless ability
>STILL NO SPRAY PAINTS
JUSTIFY THIS
>>340543797
>>340544543
Kirby 64 did it right. Squeak Squad's idea of combining abilities was making ice/spark bombs and fire/ice/spark swords and that was literally it.
>>340543389
Kirby Yarn's challenge comes from 100%ing it.
You aren't even worthy.
I just wanna see Ghost again, possessing and controlling enemies is pretty neat.
Just hopefully it's not as gimped as the game made it when it came to moving around certain platforms.
>>340541826
No.
No.
Not even a chance. You don't know shit. You don't know how hyped I was for this battle. Magolor was nowhere as boring was Dark Nebula. It was one of the best Kirby final bosses I ever fought.
Not only that, but theSuper Abilitiesand the music make it worth.
GO!
Why is this game so god damn addicting?
>>340545012
Dream Course 2 when?
>>340544919
>>340545012
It's golf Kirby-style.I never finished it. It was okay though.
>>340544971
sonuva bitch why did i click it
i mean youtube thumbnails already gave it away but i'm still mad
>>340544123
Nah, besides being gorgeous DL3 has better gameplay mechanics, better levels, better enemies, better bosses, better atmosphere, and more friends. Helping a new character each level gives motivation beyond just completing the level or looking constantly for tucked away little collectables. Final boss is the best in the series imo. DL2 is great though.
>>340544784
>>340544680
>That's the point
Don't be that fucking retard that defends shitty choices, you do realize that they could've easily done that without making them extremely short?
Don't even try to argue with it.
>>340544786
Agreed
>>340544291
>>340544291
Miracle Matter/Zero-Two > Dark Matter/Zero > NOVA/Marx > Dark Matter > Nightmare > Queen Sectonia > King Dedede > Star Dream > Drawcia > Dark Mind > Magolor > Dark Nebula
>>340545198
There is nothing wrong with games not lasting forever.
Rather the game be short with good pacing than long that drags on.
I guess you just can't appreciate arcade-style game design.
>>340545372
>NOVA/Marx over Star Dream
Why? NOVA is literally just shoot the columns, Star dream is a much more engaging fight.
>>340545354
is suplex finally back in robobot?
>>340545445
There's a difference between lasting forever and lasting jack shit, but of course you can only talk in extremes like the average vermin.
The Kirby stages had 0 replayability and not much lasting appeal, so there's that for you so called arcade-ism.
>>340545605
Suplex.... is kill.
>>340545793
Wow you'd think robobot would be perfect for it.
>>340545504
I value originality and functionality over flash, flare, and spectacle. I don't mind judge things for being simpler than the other, as long as it's new and it challenges me or gets me invested. I disagree about Star Dream being more engaging.
>>340545863
>mind judge
mind or judge*
>>340545132
>finished
That's why you think it's just okay. You need to play with afriendand steal each other's points
>>340545781
Dude, you're the one talking in extremes. The subgames aren't really THAT short, I mean what did you expect? They can't make a full game out of each subgame when there are like 6 of them, plus extra minigame shit. I would rather a bunch of different games that add up to the normal length of a game than one really long game that stays the same throughout. Do you just hate variety or something?
>>340539618
I agree. I don't agree it's great, but it's nowhere bad too. The content was great, but it's little. The new copy abilities are good, with Ghost being the best, and the story is different. Also, combining Sword and Bomb with elements was really neat. The final boss was really disappointing, though.
I would give it a 7.
>tfw nobody ever talks about THIS poyo game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggEEEyoEoc
It's got some sweet DL3-esque aesthetics going on.
>>340545793
FUCK
"standing in french kissing range of stars to deal shit damage to bosses" is not a proper throw ability. If they're trying to appeal to Smash fans, why would they scrap the ability Kirby's throws come from?
>>340539618
CC was shit
>>340546281
Probably because it only came out in Japan.
>>340546405
YOU A SHIT.
>>340546281
Because it's Japan-only.
I did play it, and the final witch boss was hard. The matches's pace are faster than GB, and it's better. Story was fun to play.
Also, it's the only game where Meta Knight and Animal Friends are in the same universe.
>>340540302
This, it wasn't bad, it just didn't impress in any way.
It's the weakest DS kirby by far.
>>340543797
My mistake then, dark nebula was a shitty out of nowhere villian. Would've preffered some cool fight with all four squeaks. The little mini level leading up to him was cool.
I agree with most of your opinions other then SS>SSU and RtDL>PR. Adventure shits on NiDL though.
>>340543797
>SS > SSU
>You've got co-op and a TV, and the new subgames in the remake are boring rehashes.
>Revenge of the King
>Meta Knightmare Ultra
>boring
Also the graphics don't make Kirby look like an ugly lump anymore, and it introduced us to Galacta Knight and Masked Dedede's themes. Plus I'm pretty sure SSU had co-op if both players had a copy of the game.
>>340545159
>DL3
>better level design
Did we play the same game? DL3 levels are pretty lackluster.
>>340544971
TIME TO BLOW UP POPSTAR
so how is robobot?
>music
>level designabilities to fill the gaping hole in my chest left by suplex?
>>340547056
>SS>SSU
I can understand and respect this opinion, I just don't share it. Other than Revenge of the King found the new games to be retreads of the games from the original, and Meta Knighting throughout the whole game was quite dull.
The Arena > Dyna Blade > The Great Cave Offensive > Gourmet Race > Revenge of the King > Spring Breeze > The True Arena > Meta Knightmare Ultra > Helper to Hero
>>340547269
The graphics are quite clean in Super Star Ultra, but I prefer Super Star's. There's a lot more expression and personality there, the art style has more variety in tone, and everyone is really cute, but not exaggeratedly so. Also, the graphics for all the cutscenes look like complete garbage in Super Star Ultra, compared to Super Star.
SSU didn't introduce us to Dedede's other theme, Super Star Stacker did.
>>340547295
At times, but they are more rich than DL2's in general.
>Superstar Classic isn't his favorite Kirby game
>>340547793
>Music
Fucking fantastic
>Level design
Among the best newer and cooler level design we've seen in a long time for kirby. Oil rig, Jazz night life city, casino, etc.
>Powers
ESP, Doctor, and poison are fucking rad, as is the mech combos.Its also directly related to super star plot wise
>>340547934
>preferring Sakukirby to Shimokirby
>>340548032
just one more day
>>340548148
Adventure and Super Star are just as Shimo AND Saku
>>340548148
Super Star > Dream Land 2 > Crystal Shards > Adventure > Dream Land 3 > Dream Land
>>340548148
>>340548367
Just as Shimo as Saku, I mean. He was a mapper and designer.
>>340544726
>Could've had a baddass Drill Animal mech in Robobot
>Kirby could've gone 100% full Gurren Lagann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=craFJhBDcow
>>340548563
Anon, you better get out before someone spoils shit for you.
>>340547906
Yeah I actually find helper to hero and especially meta knightmare to be filler, return of the king and true arena are great though. Just super star with more stuff, yeah some of that stuff is kinda shitty but still.
>mfw TOMORROW
>>340544971
>watching people play it
>almost no one recognizes him
>>340549141
>mfw TOMORROW
I ain't sleeping tonight.
Should I get Robobot or Monster Hunter Generations?
>>340547269
IMO playing co-op on the couch right next to someone, looking at the same screen, playing the same cart on the same system, that feels quite a bit different from staring into different tiny screens. It's more impersonal, less inclusive and fun.
>>340549327
>All those people who have no idea who Dark Matter is so they just act confused instead of hyped
>>340549141
Other then story and DEEPEST LORE I know nothing about any of the levels, pretty excited.
>>340548563
>"Could" go Gurren laggan
ABOUT THAT...
>>340549141
It'll be fun.
>>340544971
Nova's design is so much fucking better. I understand Star Dream was probably redesigned by HWC to look more sleek and less whimsical or whatever, but why keep the shooting star and giant cat face?
>>340540302
Basically this. It was fun, but too fucking short even for a Kirby game
>>340548563
>He doesn't know
HAHAHAHA
HA
>>340549790
>sleek and whimsical
Anon, did you not notice the objets trying to kill you in the count down?given time, it would have become an EXACT copy just silver
>>340544726
>>340548563
>Coming into a Kirby thread knowing full-well of the leaks
>>340549790
Well, he wanted to make an exact copy of a Clockwork Star, so I guess they all have the cat face.We STILL don't know who made those fucking things.
>>340549790
The coolest fucking part about star dream's design theory, is how the core AI folds its wings in to form the top of the pocketwatch
>>340550042
And howit has 02's color pattern.
>>340550042
>>340550029
>>340549923
[/spoiler]
>tfw Star dream is programed to be Galactic Nova. It believes it's Galactic Nova, but it can't do the one thing its created to do, when it tries to grant a wish it gets a FATAL ERROR instead
Star dream will never grant wishes like it was made to do [/spoiler]
>>340550317
fuck, how do i edit a post
>>340550317
You fucked up the spoiler you Borb!
>>340540302
This, it wasn't a bad game but it's one of the weakest Kirby games.
>>340550317
DELETE THIS
>>340550420
Just delete it you baka.
>>340549923
"more sleek and less whimsical" was the quote.
>>340550317
GOD DAMMIT MUH STORY IS RUINED NOW
>>340546281
Maybe there'll be another puzzle spin off game in the near future considering thatPlanet Robobot featured Super Star Stacker music in it EX stages.And Grill made an appearance as a sticker.
>>340550317
it's okay bad orb, at least you tried to hide the spoilers
>people say that Robobot's true arena is harder
>tfw I was just barely able to beat Triple Deluxe's
I will never 100% this game.
What do you guys think of Best Borb?
>>340549923
Why not throw them at you, then have its pieces attach to itself as you break off more pieces of the access ark when it takes damage? Breaking away the access ark and revealing the face was cool, it should have continued to the full body. And I'm pretty sure the exposed bit over Nova's left eye was there by design, since it contours with his eye and shooting star perfectly.
>>340549790
>>340551401
I'm sure when it comes to lore NOVA might be designed like that either because it's older than the Star Dream/Access Ark and it might not even be fully completed.
If you look at NOVA you begin to realize how cluttered it is and that there's parts of it just completely missing.
I think the Access Ark Soul form or whatever is what NOVA was SUPPOSED to look like or USED to look like.
>>340551312
Speaking of gimmick in a interview miyamoto called the game a "materpiece" and sakurai said it greatly influenced kirby's adventure. Very good game.
>>340551312
>>340552135
Its a hard as balls game to 100% as well. Do you think we'll ever see his game get remastered?Or better yet get a sequel?
>>340552710
Is Sunsoft even still alive these days?
>>340552710
>>340552891
Pretty sure they're dead at this point, really a shame. Probably bought out, forced to make garbage, and eventually died a terrible death.
>>340552135
>Miyamoto calls a game called "Gimmick" a masterpiece
I really won't want to meme this, but it sets itself up too much.
>>340545793
You can sort of suplex with the jet ability
>>340552028
>If you look at NOVA you begin to realize how cluttered it is
That's on purpose, it's supposed to look like like some mystical wish granting machine. Like all those random pieces help him function and gather magic from the universe somehow, and the gab left above his eye shows you a big gear within him, assuring that he's fully mechanical. It's a really great timeless design, Stardream is kind of a sterile, less creative rehashing of it. And that's not an insult, it works in the context of the game, because HWC is probably not on par with Nova's original creator, which may have been some sort of Hephaestus type god.
>there's parts of it just completely missing.
I don't think so. It assembles itself
>I think the Access Ark Soul form or whatever is what NOVA was SUPPOSED to look like or USED to look like.
Nah, Nova was probably built like that on purpose.
>>340551312
>Mr. Gimmick
>Best Borb
I'll fight you, m8.
>>340552135
You got a source on that Sakurai part? I can only find Miyamoto complimenting the game here: http://www.glitterberri.com/developer-interviews/making-mr-gimmick/
>“After completing Mr. Gimmick, an acquaintance of Miyamoto’s was kind enough to mention to me that Miyamoto said Gimmick was a lot of fun. Mr. Miyamoto doesn’t seem to be the type to praise other people’s work, so he added that he thought Miyamoto regretted being forced to admit it. Considering I’d always wanted to make a game that outdid every other action game out there, including Mario, that made me really happy.”
>>340550317
When you say it like that it does make sense.
>>340544291
In terms of difficultyDedede on Wheelie Bikewins by a large margin. Not even with my friends, we couldn't be able to beat him.
>>340553634
No and the interview was never translated, I know that makes my comment sound kinda baity but I couldn't even search for it.
>>340553782
That's part of what makes it so shitty though. You see that show up and you just don't even want to bother because you know nothing will come of it.
incredibly easy and incredibly short, even for a kirby game
excluding the spinoffs, it is the shortest game to 100% and complete
shame because the mechanics were solid
Wallpaper time
>>340553220
>Probably bought out, forced to make garbage, and eventually died a terrible death.
F
Maybe there'll be a miracle of some sort and brink Gimmick! back from the dead.
Why didn't Kirby just go through the solar system again and wish Zero could feel positive emotions or something
>>340553403
>>340552028
NOVA used to look like cat-faced cuckoo clock. When rebuilt as the access ark and fused with star dream it's appearance looks more like a pocket watch
>>340554651
Why waste time looking for a clockwork star when you can just beat the shit out of the floating eye?
>>340554819
It could always help to have a godlike horror with an army of ultra-powerful drones as your friend.
>>340553925
I guess, but the fun part is being able to beat him in midst of all the chaos. It's a solid way to havefunknowing you'll probably lose because of it.
>>340554762
Nova has the pocketwatch top though.
>>340553925
So you don't like being challenged? That explains why your list is more or less "easiest to hardest boss" with the exceptions of Miracle Matter and 02.
>>340555662
I don't mind a challenge, but Air Ride Dedede feels like an exercise in futility. It's been too many years now that I've failed and failed again. He broke me.
>>340555946
It's not necessarily a bad thing to dislike a notable challenge, we all value different aspects of game design.
requesting a husbando wallpaper
>>340552891
>>340553220
>>340554326
According to Wikipedia they pretty much went through hell due to barely not go bankrupt in 1995 eventually just residing in Japan for a while just "developing and publishing role-playing video games, pachinko games and mahjong games, and mobile platform titles in partnership with other companies such as NTT DoCoMo and Yahoo!." They partnered with Nintendo & GaijinWorks to bring their older games back on the Wii Virtual Console & to release a remake of Blaster Master (Blaster Master: Overdrive) so I guess they still have their IPs at least.
Their English site is stuck in 2010 advertising their VC games still but in Japan last year they apparently started re-releasing their classic PC games to work on modern PCs.
>>340554163
>>340554265
>>340554384
>>340554502
>>340554607
>>340554713
>>340554831
>>340554943
>>340555043
>>340555132
>>340555223
>>340555334
>>340555443
>>340555534
>>340555569
>>340555704
>>340555792
One of these things is not like the others. Also here a comfy wallpaper for you anon.
>>340556480
Fuck you.
Do I not Globin?
>>340551301
>people say that Robobot's True Arena is harder
>I was recently able to beat the True Arena twice with hammer just in time for Robobot
I must train.
Meta Knight is pretty cool. He looks pretty weird in Robobot though, his mask is too thick, and his shoes and gloves look too detailed and metal.
>>340556480
Yeah that one wasn't me. Thanks for the paper anon
Last I got
>>340556653
Don't you fucking Globin me mister! Go back to your room and think about your actions.
>>340557564
the blush really looks like eyes here
>>340557726
FUCK YOU
Globin
So how comfy is Robobot?
>>340557564
Thanks for contributing. Here's one more for you.
>>340539618
it was a poor man's kirby 64
it's literally the only kirby game i've ever played and i loved it
>>340558047
THATS IT FAGGOT, YOURE DONE NOW
>>340558359
Play the others then, the general consensus seems to prefer the other games.
>>340558552
they're pretty expensive where i live and i don't really like emulating games
>>340546281
I never even knew this one existed. Looks amazing.
>>340558552
>air ride beating epic yarn that hard
lel
My least favorite mainline Kirby game is still Dreamland 2. Filled with bad game design. Probably could've been really good, too, if not developed on the OG Gameboy. At least make it for the Color or something, fuck.
>>340558750
A decent amount of them are on Virtual Console if you want to try that.
>>340559113
oh sweet i just checked i didn't know thank you
>>340558552
>Super Star Ultra beating Super Star
>Kirby's Dream Land 2 beating Kirby's Dream Land
Awful. The rest of it I agree with.
>>340559246
Harder than any Dark Souls boss
>>340558094
It has map themes that are especially comfy.
https://youtu.be/n2BLjC9LG9s
https://youtu.be/8PL5WuyBvjs
Some other themes are super sweet too.
https://youtu.be/pmm7rDBwMA8
https://youtu.be/HzjufJD0WVY
https://youtu.be/MG5q7JNVx7g
https://youtu.be/EMq7QUWjF8A
>>340558870
>boring kiddy platformer vs. amazing racing game that you can play with your pals with tons of different modes
GEE, I WONDER WHY IT LOST.
>>340560353
T O M O R R O W
O
M
O
R
R
O
W
>>340560118
>Super Star Ultra beating Super Star
It makes sense, it's Super Star but with more content. All classic Super Star has is a different art style, multiplayer & a TV screen.While I say that though, I do gotta say I prefer the original as well.
>Kirby's Dream Land 2 beating Kirby's Dream Land
Dream Land 1 had more solid level design & gameplay but DL2 had more gameplay added to it with the inclusion of copy abilities & animal friends & was longer overall, so again it's understandable.
>>340560410
>Casual racing game where you only have to steer vs amazing platformers with lots of powerups that change how you play
>>340559246
>>340560756
>All classic Super Star has is a different art style, multiplayer & a TV screen.
And better looking cutscenes.
>>340561002
You can view those cutscenes in Super Star Ultra in the movie collection after you 100% the game.
>>340558094
As comfy as roboticization it can get.
>>340561091
So? You might as well just look them up on youtube at that point.
>>340560756
Classic super star has superior sound quality compared to ultra and kirby's movement is slightly faster by proof of his ice ability.
So, Haltmann Works Company built NOVA, right?
I mean, that's all but confirmed. They obviously made NOVA in it's early days, which influenced Star Dream's design. This also means they built the Lor Starcutter, which could also mean the Metal General and HR-D3 were built to travel and get it back from whoever stole it. Which is why their Security Force looks like Metal General.
i find it really hard to rank the kirby games in a tierlist
like dreamland 1, 2 and adventure are similar, but you can't really compare them to a collection like superstar.
64 almost feels like it's own thing, as do the other games
>>340562282
I really hope you're mocking those couple of retards who keep insisting "HWC was behind everything!"
>>340562282
No. And spoiler that shit.
NOVA was what Haltman based Star Dream off of as his ancient design doccument. NOVA is old as time immoral.
>>340561873
I'm just saying the game has both versions of cutscenes technically so that complaint doesn't really apply.
>>340561920
You're right on the sound thing, got a video comparing their speed though? Sounds believable but that's a weird detail they would change.
I rarely see people mention return to dreamland wii here
>>340562492
Well, then why do the Security Forces look exactly like the Metal General? And why does Star Dream look like NOVA despite it having been destroyed in Super Star / Ultra? It's obvious Haltmann tried to build Star Dream to grant his wish to see his daughter again, which implies prior knowledge of it.
They weren't "behind everything" obviously, but they've had to have a ton of influence since they had to have been around during the Dark Matter games in order to "clone" the Swordsman.
>>340548032
I finished the game and I didn't notice, what's the link with Super Star? It seems more like a 3D sequel than a Super Star Sequel
>>340562907
This game was really fun, i beat it last week
What's new in the Extra Mode?
Which non-spinoff Kirby has the highest replay value?
>>340562587
>that complaint doesn't really apply.
Of course it does. When you play the game, you have to suffer through Ultra shitty looking and sounding cutscenes. Tacking the originals on when you've already 100% completed the game is meaningless. And there's still the matter of Return of the King, Meta Knightmare Ultra, and the True Arena not having any sort of good looking SNES style cut scenes.
>>340563232
its been awhile since i beat it, but you have less health, there's more enemies and bosses have more moves. a couple of new boss forms.
>>340563350
Kirby's Dream Land.
>>340563463
Thanks.
>>340563232
You have half-health, enemies are generally larger and every boss & mini-boss are upgraded as labeled by the "Ex" in their name. It's pretty much the same otherwise beyond being harder.
>>340563357
I guess I get your point there. I really do wish the new cutscenes were made in the original style myself, I liked them a lot also.
>>340563350
Dreamland because it's so short.
Amazing Mirror as well (speedrunning, 100% treasures, doing the bosses in reverse order,multiplayer)
>>340562969
HWC workers discovered them at some point and tried to copy their designs for their own use. They have vastly inferior versions of all those things, they didn't make the originals. It's doubtful that a single one of their creations was invited/designed internally. They probably have scouts specialized in scouring the galaxy and finding incredible technology, which is how they have something resembling Pix and HR-E as well.
Plus, Egg Engines and Nova have nothing to do with what HWC does.
>but they've had to have a ton of influence since they had to have been around during the Dark Matter games in order to "clone" the Swordsman.
Doubtful. Perhaps they opened a random chest in some random location with a Dark Matter specimen inside. Dedede has several of them.
Remember, Dark Matter wasn't some short-lived event localized around Pop Star. It's likely they're older than life and have been all over the galaxy, like HWC.
HWC has not been involved in the Kirby lore at all until this entry. And that's a good thing.
>>340540690
>easily 100% it in a day without even consulting a guide.
This can be said for quite a few of them though, no? Maybe not without a guide, but still they go by quickly.
