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no option to let the kings take overWhy?


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>no option to let the kings take over

Why?
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>>340535384
because they would get their shit pushed in at the dam.
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>>340535384
They don't have the resources, drive or vision to take over
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>No nonviolent option with the Mojave BoS for Mr. House's quests
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>Westside and other shitty settlements surround New Vegas
>Morally complex side quest involves the people going as far as stealing water from the NCR to survive
>They don't share the reputation system with Freeside
Why was that?
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>>340535926
they would have made strong allies. i can't think of a good reason why House would want them gone, especially now that he can use the Courier as an ambassador.
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>>340535926
Mr. House is so perfect they needed to make up a reason for you to not join him.

Also it fits since BoS are whiny bastards that don't like anyone having shiny tech that isn't them.
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>>340535926
Here is the mod to allow the alliance.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
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>>340536102
House despises them and thinks they're fucking brutish and ridiculous
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>>340536882
It also makes sense when you consider they are basically an insane cult. He wouldn't want to ally with a group whose ideology basically states they should be the rightful owners of all his technology.
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>>340536102

I think it was sawyer who basically said that he forced you to kill them with house because otherwise house would have been a pure good route instead of a soft grey. There's really no moral ambiguity about going with a guy that will let everyone live and take humanity to the stars.
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>>340536882
Well he's fucking right

House did nothing wrong
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>>340535926
Courier: Sorry Mr. House...but Veronica's my friend

House: So was I
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>>340535926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87US9AXNMME

absolutely roasted
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>>340537182
as with the NCR, the Brotherhood are known to stand down when faced with a superior enemy. so i think they would be open to negotiation, especially if House knew exactly where their secret hide-out was. this >>340537839 must be the actual truth.
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They're just a small street gang that can barely hold down freeside. They can't even push out a bunch of squtters without your help
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>>340538431
this
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>>340537839
Sure there would be, he'd still be a dictator. And there would be much easier ways to emphasize that aspect of siding with him than just saying "oh well I guess we'll just make him insist on killing one faction."

>>340538367
Stand down, yes, but that doesn't mean they ended up partnering with the NCR and accepting their authority. They still basically regard NCR as an enemy, just one they don't have the firepower to outmatch.
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>no option to kill Mr. House and plug Doc Mitchell in the machine
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>people mistake Anthony, House's half-brother who cheated him out of his inheritance when both his parents died at a young age, for House himself
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the Brotherhood is dying no matter how you look at it, and even the NCR truce ending is just delaying the inevitable. Unless they change their tune, they'll always be a small group of tech cultists hiding out underground.
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>>340538835
>you plug Easy Pete into the machine and he detonates every explosive in the Mojave
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>>340538743

The thing is Caesar already fulfills the brutal dictator role. House is his counterpart showing the advantages of a benevolent dictatorship. If you make him an insane autocrat you basically just have two Caesars Legions one with meat and one with robots. It wasn't the best option available I'll give you that but it did allow house to retain his own character instead of just being the lite version of another faction.
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>>340535384
I wiped them out at level 5 with a sawed-off shotgun and a laser pistol. They're pushover wannabe gangsters and have no place in the Mojave taking pride in petty crime.

"Hey man gimme 50 caps to see the King"
>Figure a pair of 20 guage shells is worth about that much
>Give the fucker his pay in lead
Wipe out the entire gang of pussies in a few minutes
>Find the King hiding in a corner
>Cure his severe case of baby-backed bitch with a double dose of buckshot, consumed orally
>Reach level 6
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>>340537839
As a Housefag I don't believe House will bring people to space any time soon, but I do believe he can help rebuild and improve people's lives, he just can't do it because he's got an army at his doorstep and another army in his backyard
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>>340538916
Not Bethesda's BoS
>Liberty Prime WOOHOO!!
>LASERS! BOMBS! PEW PEW!!
>Are you having fun yet you slob sucking swines?
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>>340538835
>>340538989
>plug in the most Fantastic man in the Mojave
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>>340535384
>No option to activate the robot army, but then give them to the NCR
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>>340539156
>you find Oliver Swanick's decaying corpse out in the desert and revive his brain to rule Vegas
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>>340539134
Despite my problems with 4 I really liked full-scale war BoS.
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>>340539201
that seems like it would just lead to an abuse of power, or further laziness from Oliver/Kimball
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>>340539201
>give it to NCR
>3/4 of the robots get sent back home to protect brahmin
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>>340539273
Almost like a grey-area, fantastic man.

>>340539290
Even greyer!
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I'm still mad there's no ranger armor in Fallout 4
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>>340539226
Yeah, Broken Steel was good. Though they robbed us of another battle sequence by making the giant tin can come back.
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>>340539456
Mods
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>>340539456
>Ranger Armor
>Boston
You do realize these two things are three thousand miles away from each other, right?
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>>340539854
So? It's just armour, Bethesda brought entire factions to the east.
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>>340536102
House despises the Brotherhood (there's a youtube clip of his opinion on them), and the Brotherhood would NOT play well with House.

The Brotherhood is violently opposed to anyone but them having advanced technology. Not just that, but the Mojave chapter is shown to be so devoted to adhering to their code, they do it even when it's directly causing them to die out. The BoS wouldn't see anything but House as a threat, and a direct violation to what they believe in. They'd want to control the Lucky 38 and the tech he has stored in it.
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>>340539854
Maybe he wanted something as cool as the ranger armor
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>>340539456
>fallout 4
>anywhere near california
pick one you retarded bethesdrone
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>>340539456

Bethesda's done enough to shit on the lore.
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>>340539210
Finally...After all these years...I HAVE TRULY WON THE LOTTERY
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>>340539854
I'm sure it could fit somewhere into the mix in the Fallout "lore", especially because it takes place years after New Vegas, so some traveler could have wandered over in it
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>>340539854
Hundreds anon. Though Ranger armor or a similar variant was originally a US marine spec ops armor.
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What's the difference between WME and WMX?
Which one is better, if I want modifications for unique weapons?
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>>340539156
I can't imagine a more hilarious form of hell
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>>340538743
they would be more amenable to House, since he is not a big fan of the NCR either, he only uses them for revenue. House is a scientific juggernaut, NCR is the opposite. i think they could have been great friends, at least if McNamara was the Elder and not Hardin. House could benefit from having an army that isn't entirely mechanical.
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>>340540017
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>>340540023
Anon, New Vegas happened like 6 years before 4.
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>>340536102
>>340535926
BoS are a bunch of shits and would never have allied with House
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>>340539963
then a requirement for the alliance would be to complete Still in the Dark in favor of McNamara. if they can reconcile with the NCR they can make friends with House.
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>>340540120
while I'd like to see the Brotherhood reach out like that, Veronica's quest shows that they aren't even willing to make baby steps in working outside of their comfort zone, and have to follow the codex to a T.
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>>340540175
thats not what he meant
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>>340540175
New Vegas takes place in 2281
Fallout 4 takes place in 2287
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>>340540214
The Brotherhood is an allusion to strict religious doctrines. Of course they're going to take scripture over progress.
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>>340535384

If your primary concern is getting The Kings the best possible ending, then - ironically - your best bet is to ally them with the NCR in an NCR victory.
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>>340540214
that quest only shows that Brotherhood personnel need to remain with the Brotherhood. Veronica has shown to be a more careless member, and if anyone is at risk of revealing sensitive secrets, it would be her.
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>>340540323
with House, you need to incite war between he NCR and them for him to leave them alone, otherwise they get wiped out
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>>340540323
Or if you go House, get Kings to kick squatters out
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>>340540120
NCR is more scientifically progressive than BOS or House.
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>>340540518
you tell 'em, man!
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>>340539456
>Why doesn't Boston have LAPD riot gear?
>Why didn't the rangers cross over the Rockies and Appalachia just so I could use it?

Since you don't give a shit about lore just mod it in.

>>340540040
Ranger was riot gear. The variants are specialized riot gear, with the Lonesome Road variants being military riot gear.
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>>340540653
Fantastic wasn't part of the NCR until they showed up in the Mojave.

The Followers are the only faction currently progressing science in the west outside of the isolated Big MT, which means the NCR directly benefits.

They make a big deal about the BOS not moving forward, and House hasn't started any sort of innovation yet.
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>>340539061
In all the time that House has been cooped up in his tower he's only managed to clean up a penthouse suite he can't even use. House doesn't care about rebuilding, he just wants control. If he was truly a techno-genius then he would spend at least some of his time designing things that help people instead of just trying to hoard more guns.
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They're a street gang not a faction that could handle having actual control over the mojave
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>>340540323
If you ease tensions and proceed with the Independent ending, Freeside becomes a stable region and the Kings help out with refugees.

Inciting violence in an Independent Vegas isn't particularly good, since it kills revenue.
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>>340536019
Because North Vegas and Westside are underdeveloped and underemphasized as all hell, a lot of people never even find those locations on their first playthrough.
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>>340540881
Again, tell me how do you expect House to build shit if there's two armies ready to sabotage things if they get the chance?
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>>340540661
Could just be Boston Riot Police gear, give it basically the same design and call it a day. Not as if police officer uniforms vary *that* much, especially not riot outfits
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>>340540832
the followers couldn't even figure out a way to make their own Fixer without the Courier's help, and the NCR's CSI is conscripting mercenaries to get their shit done. meanwhile House invented immortality and is controlling an entire city from the bowels of the most advanced piece of real estate for hundreds of miles in any direction.
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>>340540380
>>340540421
>>340540996

The Kings' might prefer to be left alone out of pride, but the simple fact is that a large-scale relief effort from a powerful outside force is the most effective method of helping their community escape their current poverty.
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>>340540067
>What's the difference between WME and WMX?
The mods? They have the same objective, but WMX received more updates and compatibility. And yes, it does have mods for the unique weapons.
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>>340541094
That's how they could have shoehorned it in, but they didn't.

Bethesda wants/wanted power armor to be the schtick for Fallout 4. Why would they include a better armor that doesn't require tedious power mechanics?
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>>340540881
They mention ingame that House has only reawakened relatively recently, and has already gotten the families to work under him and made the Vegas strip into a functioning facility, improvising a truce just as the NCR rolled in. Not saying he's a saint or a miracle worker, but he's been able to do quite a bit with the major restrictions he's facing.
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>>340541121
Be fair, a research group is not prepared to fight a whole vault of killer plants
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>>340541121
That is the Followers in the Mojave, who have extremely severely limited resources. I am referring to the Followers in the NCR.

>meanwhile House invented immortality and is controlling an entire city from the bowels of the most advanced piece of real estate for hundreds of miles in any direction.

He did all of this two hundred years ago. He has gotten his area to almost what it used to be. That isn't progress.

I don't doubt House would become the most advanced area outside of maybe the Institute, but in the game he is sitting and twiddling his thumbs.
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>>340540661
>>340541094
https://youtu.be/Dquq8DABdw8
Well considering how the US was repressing riots back during the war the difference between peacekeeping and military equipment probably got blurred.
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>>340541374
To put it more concretely, the Strip has been in existance for all of 7 years in-game
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>>340536178
This, this is basically the reason Sawyer gave for it happening. Originally there was a way for you to make a truce and you can still mod it in (see >>340536320)
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>>340541126
While NCR relief for Freeside might succeed in the short run, consider that NCR in its own home territory has its own share of slums. It's unlikely the NCR will continue to help Freeside in the long run, especially considering an NCR victory supports the heavily expansionist and conservative regime that diverts most of its resources to conquering.
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Are there some good plot mods for a House playthrough?
I've played the Restore the Lucky 38 mod, it was comfy hanging around on the big hotel. Would be nice finding more stuff related to House.
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>>340541426
you just criticized House for doing the exact thing that the NCR is doing. if it weren't for Courier intervention, the NCR would have been crushed in the second battle of hoover dam and Hanlon is the only person who seems to realize that. any scientific progress they made in the mojave would have been irrelevant after that.

returning a city to its former glory after a nuclear holocaust is progress. House wants to start a space program, he's the only person in the game advanced enough to even consider that idea. and while it may be 50 years down the road its a bigger goal than to get a power plant running.
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>>340541021
What did he build in the time between the bombs dropping and those armies showing up? A junk wall around 3 casinos? A subjugated population that is preparing to rebel against him? Where are the solar panels or power plants or farming equipment?
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>>340541856
Can you fucking read?
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>>340541513
Weren't those riots in Canada, which was being annexed by the U.S.?

Hopeville is a better example of the government tackling domestic riots, rather than the military quelling a population being invaded. Then again, Hopeville was a military town, so you might have a point.

Just to clarify:
>Regular ranger armor is LAPD riot gear turned into NCR ranger armor, so it would be highly unlikely to find it in Boston
>Desert ranger armor was issued to the Marines during the Gobi campaign and only shows up in Zion because of the Survivalist; it was originally owned by an actual Marine and god knows wear the Survivalist got it
>Advanced riot gear was used by the 11th Armored Cavalry specifically to deal with Hopeville riots
>Elite riot gear was used by the NCR specifically to deal with the new Hopeville riots

I'm pretty sure the marine armor in Fallout 4 is roughly the equivalent to ranger armor, all things considered.
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>>340539030
Defeating them on Very Easy difficulty doesn't count.
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I kinda wish the DLC stuff resulted in more changes in the main game interaction, though I realiz why VA budgetary concerns and limited time made that the case.
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>>340541374
In all my time playing NV I've somehow never seen this. If that's true then my point falls apart but if he was conscious and capable of manipulating his securitrons from the moment the bombs fell then he hasn't accomplished much. If he rebuilt the strip in seven years then he sucks a little less but I still think he is too arrogant to lead a large society. Each family has plans to betray him.
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>>340541849
> if it weren't for Courier intervention, the NCR would have been crushed in the second battle of hoover dam and Hanlon is the only person who seems to realize that

"Crushed" is exceptionally strong wording.

Victory for all sides relies on the Courier. The NCR and the Legion are roughly equal in terms of their force. House is powerless until the Courier turns on his securitrons.

Hanlon is a depressed shell-shocked traitor. I don't take his word any more than any of the other people in charge in the NCR.

>returning a city to its former glory after a nuclear holocaust is progress

New Vegas is nowhere actually close to prewar Vegas, and is far from being the most advanced civilization in the wasteland, robot army or no.

Like I said, House could easily become the most advanced faction outside of isolated parties, but as of present, letting tribals run your dilapidated casinos, filling a Vault with concrete, and having robots keep the peace isn't particularly scientific progress.

Infrastructure progress, maybe, but not scientific progress.
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>>340539030
What even is the point of this post?

You think you're tough for beating dudes in leather jackets wielding straight razors?

The Kings are also not really criminals outside of Pacer, and even then there's a very fine line between a protection racket and genuine protection in the wasteland.
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>>340542091
>Weren't those riots in Canada, which was being annexed by the U.S.?
The dissent actually spread to the US especially when word of what they were doing in Canada came out. Anti war activist came out of the woodwork and was put-down hard.

That was i distraught that when i first played Fo4 everything was just peachy. Everything by that time was falling apart and was just sugar coated. They could have shown us that.
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>>340542389
if you think Hanlon is a traitor, you are clearly biased. upper management wasn't scared enough. a man doesn't put a gun to his head if he thinks he's done the right thing. he did what he thought was necessary.

new vegas isn't close because of console limitations. look at the concept art for the originally planned vegas, if you can find it. i know some of it is in that DVD that came with the pre-orders. it's still head and shoulders above anything the NCR has erected in the mojave, and they've already been there for how long, 12 years? there is more potential with him than anyone else, even the Brotherhood.
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>>340542513
They had it coming. They deserved it. Punk.
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>>340541849
>only person advanced enough to consider that
What about the Repconn ghouls that literally go to space in the game?
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>>340542347
Saying each family has plans to betray him is a little inaccurate.

The Omertas, absolutely, but their plan only hinges on the Legion coming in, and even then, if Caesar is dead Lanius wipes them out for being backstabbing cockbites. Their plan to dirty bomb the Strip? Ultimately not a serious threat to House, considering he has securitrons. An incredibly momentary setback and minor PR problem.

Benny is really the only Chairman with eyes on usurping the throne. Swank and the rest aren't cool with it.

The White Glove Society even less so. Mortimer is willing to sell out Vegas in exchange for being able to practice cannibalism, but the rest of the White Gloves are quite content under House.

I agree that making drug-peddling slaver tribals and cannibal tribals the start of your new city isn't really that smart of an idea, especially giving them that much autonomy.
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>>340542816
Pretty sure even if you manage to improve their navigation systems they still end up landing somewhere else on Earth considering their trajectory on launch
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>>340542939
Plus they walk back to Novac to help evacuate.
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>>340542997
That's for the legion ending correct?
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>>340542702
Regardless if he's done the right thing, he's literally killing his own troops through his actions. Calling me 'biased' (to what, exactly?) isn't going to change that. He needs fucking therapy.

I have all that stuff. Concept art is great and all, but Avellone and Sawyer go back on a lot of it - look at the Fallout Bible.

I will repeat, for a third time, that House CAN become the most advanced faction. Currently he is not, and the NCR has him currently beat.

Don't bring up the Brotherhood, there has not been any hope of progress with them since Fallout 2. They will only ever turn things on, not invent them.
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>>340543118
They return in every ending if you don't kill them to help fight against the Legion, regardless if they succeed.
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what's a good way to play the DLCs without becoming ridiculously overpowered in the main game or screwing up the pacing? (like when in the progress of the main questline)
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if you go Yes Man their ideals will basically live on
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>>340543298
You'll become overpowered easily anyways
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>>340543298
HH = Lvl 10, OWB = Lvl 20, DM = Lvl 30, LR = Lvl 40.
On a sidenote, you will screw over your maingame eventually anyways, even without DLCs.
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>>340543298
By not playing the DLC or ignoring all side content, you get a lot of XP from them.
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>>340543183
biased towards the NCR, if you really think they are more scientifically advanced than the guy who made the biggest breakthrough in scientific history. a crude form of it perhaps but humans have been craving immortality since ancient times. there is not a soul in the NCR who could have accomplished that feat. and all he needs is a loyal companion to help him blow the lid open and start colonizing the moon.
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I thought all the factions and endings in New vegas were garbage. Had the entire game been the search for the man who killed you it would have been a WAY better game.
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>>340543891
Shut up and give me more loli you dirty boy
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>>340543183
I hate to bring fallout 4 in to a nice NV thread but did the eastern BoS find the blimp and repair it or did they make it on their own?
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>>340544063
they pulled it out of the plot hole
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>tfw helping out all the small communities
feels good man
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>>340543298

That's not going to be easy since Lonesome Road basically requires you to have a really tough character.
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I always thought it'd be funny if the Kings pulled an Islam

I mean, they could. Technically. But it would be "in poor taste" so will never be in the game sadly, despite being potentially funny and weird as shit.
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>>340543763
Houses flaw in my opinion is that he is too egotistical to ever get a loyal companion. He treats a 10int courier like a retarded lapdog. Sure the life support system is impressive but he isn't the kind of person that would share that tech, it is his alone and so it will become his tomb.
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>>340536102
The brotherhood would want his tech mostly his life sustaining shit. House would not and does not want to share shit. So house misleads you.into thinkimg the brotherhood iss bad and shit since he knows theu can or could become a potential problem if left.unchecked
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>>340538916

It depends on which chapter of the brotherhood we're talking about.
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>>340544442
The Good Karma House.
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did you let Dean live?
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Should I use this mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/?

or just grab the regular version of jsawyer?
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>>340544818
I befriended the shit out of him to the point he felt uncomfortable.
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>tfw you have to do most of Legion's questline to be able to kill caesar during surgery
>this means you have to convince boomers and white glove to support legion
what's the use of my character's medical skills now
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>>340539030
>petty crime
>literally helping freeside
>second best group there after the followers
>you had to be an edgy cunt and murder the broest tribe in the game
nice one retard
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>>340545246
Getting fucked up on stimpacks and guava fruit.
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>>340545246
you can change the Boomer's allegiance whenever you want to and you can fuck up the white glove quest too
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>>340544818
sometimes but generally yes. I think his story has a satisfying and fitting ending for both his conclusions
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>>340542816
>implying they actually made it into space and didn't die in a horrible explosion
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>>340545483
>>340545246
>implying the boomers align with anyone but you
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>>340545812
>he never finished the game
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>>340545812
they didn't make it to space but they didn't die either, they show up in one of the endings to defend Novac
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Posting best gunfu
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>tfw love the followers
>the only ending good for them is NCR
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>never played through any of the DLC until a few days ago

I am a fucking idiot, Dead Money was fantastic. I have high hopes going forward.
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>>340546314
Honest Hearts is next, then Old World Blues and lastly Lonesome Road. Release order.
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>>340536102
>they would have made strong allies.
no they wouldn't. they got their shit kicked out of them at helios, they're off the grid with the rest of the brotherhood and even then the rest of the brotherhood and house wouldn't get along.
house is about control and the bos is also about control, neither wants to shared said control, they are incompatible as allies.
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what about a fallout spinoff game where you're working at restoring the railroad/road network for NCR? imagine the antics you could get up with along those rails, imagine the comfy when sharing a tribals first sarsparilla in the sunset, sweat on your brow. train barons fighting over trade rights. it could be ok
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>>340546308
What do you mean? When they run into the Khans again they create their own empire.
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I just got this for 360

Should I wait to do the dlc after the main story or am I fine to do them whenever?
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>>340546519
what
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>>340546437
oh shit I went honest hearts first. but I heard they don't really connect that deeply to one another? still that explains the bulletsponges
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>>340539854
>caps
>soups
>enclave
>eastside
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>>340546519
followers are an organization all over the core region

the ending slide for the new vegas followers, is likely not the same thing as the followers mentioned in the khans' ending
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>>340546509
Trainwiz put your name back on
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>>340546562
>console

Maybe just give up altogether and consider suicide
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>>340540832
>The Followers are the only faction currently progressing science
WRONG: ncr has their own science diversion
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>>340544875
use this one, regular jsawyer is obsolete
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>>340546598
Nah, HH is best first because it's completely unrelated to the plot that the other 3 (loosely) weave.
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>>340543763
House has absolutely no monopoly on living forever, and he did not do it first.

I am a House/Indie fag so please fuck off.
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>>340535926
>play FO3 and get biased as fuck because they help you
>play FONV BoS are fucking cunts and they don't outright kill you because you find Veronica
>if you just pick up the collar instead of going with veronica you will be made their bitch
I mean I like BoS and they are good allies but they are fucking cunts
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>>340546598
Nah it's fine, Honest Hearts is the most flexible. Heck I'd say other than release order another good way to go about it is HH > DM > OWB > LR
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>>340546756
no need to be so mean
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>>340541849
>he's the only person in the game advanced enough to even consider that idea.
but what about Chris and the REPCONN ghouls
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>>340546762
>ncr has their own science diversion

Related to the Followers
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>Make a New Vegas thread
>Don't include "New Vegas" anywhere in the post
Yeah fuck that catalog shit, right? Fucking summerfags
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>>340546825
In the first game their test for entry is "go to an irradiated hole in the ground and get a thing" hoping you'll fuck off and die.
They change their tune when you come back succesful.
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>>340538246
What is the origins of that quote?
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>>340547073
In a way I suppose. They stole a lot of Followers members when they were created but that's about it really, they don't work together.
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>>340547039
They don't wanna go to space they wanna use the rockets to get to somewhere extremely irradiated, its why Chris couldn't come along.
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>>340547073
>Related to the Followers
nope.
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>>340547136
>>340546825
They've always been assholes, except in 3 where they're Neutral Good. I always do the BoS quests before ever meeting Veronica.
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>>340546040
>dinner bell
>best gunfu

I'm not mad ,anon, I'm just dissapointed
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>>340547094
wish we would just call it /nvg/ so it'll always be easy to find.
sometimes there's just some lyrics of a song, that's hard to find aswell
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>>340546467
but like i said before, the brotherhood with McNamara as their Elder were willing to side with their mortal enemy.
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>>340546040
>>340547324
i like the huntingrifle the best, plenty of ammo and fun to snipe with
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>>340546818
>>340546998
glad to hear it
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>>340547037
He is ah Mean Son of a bitch
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>>340546314
>>340546437
>>340546598
>>340546818
>>340546998
I think it should go

>Honest Hearts
>Old World Blues
So you can go directly to the source of the Cazadors and the Vault 22 plague which both feature in the backstory
>Dead Money
So you can find Elijah and Christine after finding all the info on them (plus I'm pretty sure Christine has additional 'dialogue' if you do OWB first).
>Lonesome Road
Should always be last, plus Dead Money specifically ends with the other characters talking about the battle at the Divide.
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>>340547245
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Industry
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>>340547457
if we're going to specific dialogue OWB ends with "the courier only has one more road left to walk, one they must walk alone".
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>>340547435
I usually use pic related if I want to snipe. The only problem is that it takes a while to get
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>>340547557
>following the breaking of ties with the Followers of the Apocalypse.
so the exact opposite.
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>>340547413
yeah but house isn't willing, he'll only want to ally if it's convenient for him and if he doesn't have to bargain down
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>>340547557
>is the primary research and development agency within the NCR, following the breaking of ties with the Followers of the Apocalypse.
thanks for proving me right.
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>>340544818
No, I was repulsed by him.
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>>340547593
don't like using scopes that much, they bounce too much
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>>340547740
what isn't convenient about having more guns on your side?
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>>340547237
but what could be more irradiated that space?
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my friend finish new vegas without ever finding Camp McCarran
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>>340547946
Just raise your guns skill. You may also not have high enough strength.>>340547946
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>>340548005
house has an army, he doesn't need more guns, specially guns that can change their minds and betray him
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Followers of the Apocolypse were the only group worth siding with in New Vegas.
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>>340547237
They literally want to go to the Moon, which is constantly bombarded by solar radiation due to a lack of atmosphere.

Also, Chris probably couldn't come because they didn't bring oxygen or food, since ghouls only need radiation to survive.
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>>340548121
Especially since BoS by nature covet old technology
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>>340548038
what did they think of the game?
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>>340548157
>Not the Boomers
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>>340548157
yeah but how much can you really side with them? I wanted to pretty badly but I never found a quest to be a way in
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>>340548038
I have no idea how some people do this. I can understand not finding some of the more obscure locations in the middle of nowhere like Chance's Map or even Brocflower Cave, but there are people who manage to go entire playthroughs without finding shit right outside the strip like McCarren and Westside.
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>>340548302
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>>340548335
if you max your reputation they make you a member, i dont think theres benefits though
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>>340548335
You have to help them out a great deal, donate things. You get a really cool science outfit at their secret outpost.
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>>340548440
They give you a safehouse (which is incredibly bugged) which has a bunch of energy weapons in it, and give you a labcoat which boosts your medicine and science skills.

Otherwise there's no benefit. It's extremely easy to get though, even without doing their quests.
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>>340548157
SJW detected
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I want to see female Enclave in power armor
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>>340548358
>Westside
Lets be fair, you hardly ever have a reason to go NorthWest of Vegas and when you do, it's stuff way off in the distance like the Followers safehouse or Jacobstown

I don't think anything points you directly to Westside or North Vegas Square
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>>340548121
he has an army that can defend new vegas, they aren't capable of expanding beyond that role. and since the Courier is the most valuable figure of them all, he could be the ambassador between the two and keep the peace, because if they lose the Courier, they're both back to square one.
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>>340548243
they liked it alot more than 3, like i told them would.

>>340548358
worst part is they had the explorer perk
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>>340548536
I like how their safehouse is the second most visible building in the Mojave after the Lucky 38
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>>340548660
he doesn't want that though, you might appeal to reason but house only wants it his own way
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>>340548543
Westside is right next to the strip, though. It's not like it's a rural town like Novac, it's literally within sight of the Strip's walls. There is a giant sign right outside the southern end for The Thorn, which is mentioned by people in Freeside. Unless you're not really exploring and only going where quests tell you to go, it's not exactly hard to stumble across.
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>>340548358
>Chance's Map
what is the story with this stuff? I found his map, which I Think was the same as the world map, and I found his grave in which is a unique knife and a khan outfit. I took the knife to the khans thinking they'd be angry that I'd robbed their legendary friend's grave but nothing. Is there anything to do with this? can you learn Chance's story?
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>>340535384
So with Fallout 4 taking place 10 years after 3 and 6 after NV where do yall think the Lone Wanderer and The Courier are now?
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>>340548930
He was a character in a prequel comic for NV featuring Benny and the other Khans
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>>340549013
oooooooooooook makes some sense then. a wink to an in-group I'm not part of. thanks anyways
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>>340548939
>Lone Wanderer
doing busy work for other people

>The Courier
having kids and dealing with the Mojave as the king/queen
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>>340548930
Read All Roads if you care about that stuff. tl;dr he was a retarded Khan with a flamethrower who was part of Benny's khan entourage but died before reaching Goodsprings. Those charred bodies in the camp below his grave were his doing iirc.
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>>340548939
the lone wanderer is living with Moira and they started a Jet business. the Courier is dead, killed by a band of Centurion Remnants.
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>>340549106
The other Khans are the ones you have to look for in They went that a way.
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>>340549218
Did you actually read All Roads? Chance is a guy with a knife, a survivor of Bitter Springs who came out of it so shell shocked he refused to ever speak. They found a camp (Tribal Camp, up the road from his grave) being burned down by Fiends and he bugged out on being reminded of Bitter Springs so he jumped in and started stabbing people.

Then Benny convinced him to overdose on Psycho
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>>340548939
Lone Wanderer is a scientist or whatever.

Courier is snorting mentats off a hooker's ass.
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>>340548939
He is the supreme science god emperor of the West after conquering it with the Cloud and his Securitrons.
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>>340548861
Some people get the Thorn map marker and walk by completely oblivious to the sign pointing at the sewer grate
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>>340549503
>Then Benny convinced him to overdose on Psycho

More like gave him a choice to take them or resist the temptation and be a stronger man.

We all know what Chance chose in the end.
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At which level should I play the DLC? Jsawyer hardcore mode
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>>340546825

The BoS you see in 3 isn't what the Brotherhood is supposed to be.
Those 'exiles' are the real deal and what they're supposed to be.
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>>340549503
Whoops yeah I fucked that up. All I really cared for in AR was Benny getting characterization that didn't make him seem like a huge retard.
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>>340549734
It was closer to "Either let go of Bitter Springs or just kill yourself, a life lived in the past ain't no life to live at all"

The same "point" he made when the had the Singer assassinated
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the important question is: for those of us who didn't kill Benny- what is Benny doing now?
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>>340549521
Never has a post been more accurate. The Courier was a fucking animal.
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>>340549325
>killed by a band of Centurion Remnants.
>fast travel to El Dorado gas stop
>ALWAYS ambushed by Legion dogs
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>>340549935
In the NV uncut mod he meets you at the 188. I've never actually done the event though so I don't know what he does.
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>>340535384
Cause they would all die of opioid Induced constipation before then
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>>340550067
Tries to kill you. Again.
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What are some godtier mod's for new vegas? I'm pretty late to the party?
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Most annoying/difficult area in NV?

For me it was Vault 34
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>>340547593

best stealth sniper coming through by simple virtue of the fact that it is the most powerful silent sniper in the base game
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>>340550164
Someguy2000 is a solid creator
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>>340550067
now I'm curious.
all I wanted was a fair showdown. I wanted to kill him but I couldn't do it when he was tied up like a dog and my unarmed was too shit to do it in the arena
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>>340539030
I bet you main Reaper in OW
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>>340550164
WMX
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>>340550164
enboost and texture mods
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>>340549982
>Every NCR character I have always fights a band of faggots on the way to New Vegas
>Around the REPCONN Headquarters and Grub n' Gulp Rest Stop
Well at least it generates some spending money for the Strip
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>>340539030
Did you kill Rex too?
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>>340550195
the deathclaw excavation place is pretty hard if you are low level and have no guns
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>>340539456
okay
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>>340549982
poor little Lupe, every time
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>>340535384
at least you get lots of options and paths. been playing most modern rugs and they're basically just linear action games with absolute shit dialogue choices. tw3 has been the most disappointing ''''''rpg'''''' I've ever played. Haven't gotten to fo4 yet but I'm sure that would be worse.
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>>340550462
I would say literally impossible
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>doing the monorail quest
>already know who the spy is from the legion
>no way to just tell the colonel
>have to play stupid
man, that pissed me off, especially because the game is pretty good about that stuff most of the time
also
>beyond the beef
>mortimer fucking tells me he is a cannibal
>cant tell marjorie about it
>cant tell if its bugged or just not an option in the game
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>>340550202
huehue
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>>340550676
>guys I helped the Legion I totally know who your traitor is
>guys you gotta believe me I'm on your side now
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which brain lads?
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>>340550202
>8 5.56mm rounds
Your raifu is shit
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>>340550827
Especially since the traitor has been with the NCR years before they even met the Legion
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How come the Legion keeps throwing hit squads at you over and over again even though none of them ever come back? If I lost 20 something troops in a week trying to kill one guy I would probably try something different.
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>>340550676

I feel like those kind of oversights are a little but inevitable when a studio is given only 100 workdays to make a game.
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>>340550941
Lupa's if you don't want him to get torn to bits when you start exploring deathclaw country.
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Fuck it, I'll post what I got of All Roads for y'all interested. Ain't the full thing because I got it off another anon but I think most is there.
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>>340551028
just takes one to succeed and it's not like the Legion is suffering for lack of troops
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>>340550703
>>340550950

Shittalk all you like, she's taken down the entire Mojave with me.
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>>340551028
the NCR does it too, theirs are even harder to deal with because they have super stimpaks.
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>>340550941
the one you get from old lady gibson
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>>340551108
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>>340551108
Whole things here, mate.

http://imgur.com/a/ZuH22#0
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>>340551028
>Merciless in their assault on the NCR, the Remnants struck fear into the hearts of even the centurions at Hoover Dam. Caesar's heirs aggressively pursued the Remnants into Arizona, losing hundreds of legionaries in the process and gaining nothing in return.

It's just how they are. You're also a major contributing factor to their eventual defeat so you're pretty much Public Enemy Number One and top of the list regardless of the cost
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>no option to marry Cass

Why?
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>>340551108
>>340551232

Just don;t post the page with the horses. It triggers my autism.
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>>340551232
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>>340551308
she doesn't want to marry you
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>>340551108
>Jessup doesn't know the Three Families were tribals
He really ought to, since losing the war with House and the Families is the entire reason the Khans moved into Bitter Springs
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>>340551342
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>>340551308
they cut it
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>>340551176
NCR Soldiers are also tougher than Legionnaires.
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>>340550827
he fucking told me where the bomb and everything is. you can even pickpocket activation codes off of him.
>>340551054
this is still one of the few cases where i ever noticed something like that. compare that to fallout 4 where these kinds of inconsistencies are all over the place
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>>340551448
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>>340551547
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>>340551668
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>>340551478
yes, until you get up to the Centurions. those bastards are like three rangers put together.
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>>340551448
>why aren't NCR fixing it?! they only exist because we sell them drugs!

Fucking Khans I swear to god
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>>340551258
sweet!
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>>340551779
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>>340551837
Sooner fight a Centurion than a Veteran Ranger
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>>340551897
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>>340548939
>Lone Wanderer
working out somewhere in PA helping the communities rebuild

>Courier
chilling out at her grandpa's (Chosen One) farm
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>>340552010
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>>340552132
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>>340552250
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>>340552365
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>>340552365
there are some fucking hilarious reaction images from this from Benny alone
>>
Why is the NCR racist against ghouls and Super Mutants in New Vegas when they let them join their ranks in Fallout 2?
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>>340552469
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>>340552528
there's a bunch of ghoul rangers at the ranger station that overlooks cottonwood cove.
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>>340552585
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>>340552528
They realised that Ghouls are lost cause
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>>340552528
When is the NCR against ghouls and super mutants when a Ranger station (Echo) is populated mainly by ghouls?
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>>340552528
they're not.
There's plenty of ghouls in the army.

And check around camp golf when it's full of veteran rangers, there's a lot of ghouls.

The mercs who harassing Jacobstown weren't hired by the NCR army.
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>>340552713
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>>340552837
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>>340552713
liquid ;_;
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>>340552959
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>>340553082
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Why is Benny such a confident stud in this comic when he's a whimpy little weasel in the actual game?
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>>340541010
This.

Great places, but clearly unfinished. Same with the sewers.
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>>340553205
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>>340553234
How would you react if the guy you shot in the head TWICE showed up at your casino
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>>340552250

Thats come courier-tier shit right there

>>340553234

also this
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>>340553234
you'd shit your pants too if the guy you killed came back fully recovered
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>>340553312
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>>340553414
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>>340553205
So did he give him the drug that killed the singer or what?
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>>340553514
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>>340553563
The very same.
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>>340551837
>>340551934
Centurions are weaker, their armor has a lower DT, and they have lower HP. Their weapons are more suited for melee, Veteran Rangers can spawn with all the high tier guns though.
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>>340553628
Fin. I hope you guys enjoyed and that it provided some more backstory to an already great game for y'all.
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>>340553758
Centurions spawn with Brush Guns, which is a top tier gun.
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>>340553795
Meh, bit underwhelming. Thank you for posting though
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>>340553928
Well it was basically just a prologue, wish there were more comics, like the stories behind the companions
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>>340553795
thanks
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>>340553795
Thanks.

Makes me abit sad watching Chance take the drug.
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>>340552713

>horses
>in Fallout

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Fallout_Bible_8#...and_the_horse_you_rode_in_on.
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>>340552713
man, i wish new vegas portrayed all this shit better.
i mean, there is so much cool shit in the game, but it is never shown in a cool way. its always just told to your character and even when cool stuff is happening, its presented dreadfully dry.
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>get terrifying presence
>use it on Vulpes Inculta
>goes from smug to little bitch in seconds
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Are there any mods that'll make new Vegas as close to 2 as possible?
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>>340554225
Blame gamebryo.
Probably my biggest complaint about this game is how sterile most locations feel, with NPCs just standing around with barely any background chatter or the likes.
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>>340554361
I'm sure there are plenty of badly written and out of place quest mods!

Well, and there is stuff like classic weapon packs.
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>>340552365
>>340552469
feel like there's a page missing here
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>>340553835
True, but there's a chance they won't spawn with a Brush Gun which leaves them with middle tier guns or melee. Veteran Rangers will always spawn with a high tier gun.
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>>340554536
There might be, I posted all the ones I had in order though so I'm not sure.
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>>340553234
I'm blaming Chandler for giving the flattest most uninspired performance next to the black dude who voices Oliver, but at least it sounds like the black dude was trying.
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>>340554416
I think you can blame it more on it being 6 years old.
There were no openworld games with good presentation back then
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>>340554862
CAESAR ON THE CROSS
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>>340554926
>tfw the only good engine capable of good open world games is owned by another company
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>>340554536
Just checked. There isnt.
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>>340549912
>a life lived in the past ain't no life to live at all
Shit man, that's the entirety of New Vegas summed up right there.
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>>340554862
Yeah, I don't know what the hell went wrong there. I guess everyone before release were like "Oh cool, Chandler will be voicing a fallout character", but then he really is the worst voice actor in the whole game.
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>>340553795
we need more comics like this -some richfag should pay artists to make more-
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I'm TEXAS RED!
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>>340555090
if somebody wanted to make a ripoff-bethesda open world game they would but it's so much easier just to use your existing engine on making the next COD, BF, or AC
there's no reason to put the resources and take the risk that it might not sell well when you have huge franchises that WILL sell.
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>>340554484
Yeah no, I meant more like the classic weapon packs stuff. I have that and I changed the music to be 2's.
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I thought Benny was neither a wimp nor badly voiced. didn't read the comic now (saving it for tomorrow) so I don't have the comparison but I thought he seemed quite sharp and rational
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>>340555852
i think all the major voices are superb
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>>340555852
Then i guess you'd be surprised how he carries himself in the comic.
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>>340556073
he wasn't off character in the comic
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>>340556334
No.

But i felt like he was, well, more competent, more cool.
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>>340535384
They couldn't handle 4 end factions why would you make them go with 5?
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>>340556479
well when you meet him ingame, you're usually pointing a gun at him and want to kill him
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>>340554041
did he take it? I thought he just died from the wounds he got from the battle
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>>340558024
>tfw the courier he's talking to is an illusion
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>>340558353
>>340553312
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Anyone else have a hard time aiming with this gun?

I don't know if it's the sights, but I can't hit shit with it.
The spread is tight, too.
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>>340558647
Using a controller?
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>>340558762
Always.
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>>340558762
no.
I can hit stuff fine with the regular .357, but not the police pistol.
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>>340558880
have you increased your gun skill?
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>>340559274
Why'd you ask, it has the same Guns requirement regular .357 does (zero).
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>>340559274
of coursh.

I like it doesn't even feel like standard new vegas spread, more like some unholy rng with unsynced animations.
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>>340540313
"progress"
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Are there any worthwhile mods for this?

I've been wanting to replay it, but I don't want to without some decent mods to change the gameplay up a smidge.
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>>340541126
>the simple fact is that a large-scale relief effort from a powerful outside force is the most effective method of helping their community escape their current poverty
evidence?
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>>340558024
>mfw giving myself black widow via console commands when i'm playing a dude
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>>340559871
donations have done so much for starving african countries :^)
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>>340542389
>Infrastructure progress, maybe, but not scientific progress.
One step at a time, anon.
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>>340560028
Countries versus a single community
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>>340559928
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>>340554085
Dumb frogposter.

Fallout Bible is completely invalid, has been for a long, long time.
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>>340560238
Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Oakland, Harlem, Sub-Saharan Africa, they're all pretty shit.

Weird. I wonder if there is something similar about all those places... something all those places which are similarly terrible have in common... huh.
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>>340541126
the only reason this would be true is because the NCR takes all the water
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>>340560518
Freeside relies entirely on the water mains controlled by NCR

Nothing really stopping them from taking a pack brahmin down to Lake Mead every once in a while and bottling their own water
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>>340560983
NCR controls lake mead.
Remember what the one chick at the grub n gulp north of camp golf says?
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>>340561181
You go out Lake Mead way, see how many NCR troopers you see guarding it
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>>340560983
Except for the Cazadores at the north, the NCR camp at the south, and the Lakelurks, sure.
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>>340560504
why must everything be nigger bashing with you guys. yeah they're detrimental to communities we all get it. talk about fucking vidya.
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>>340560504
lets keep stuff vidya related, if you want to get political, >>>/pol/ is over there
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>>340561263
>implying deathclaws, cazadors and lakelurks aren't NCR genetic experiments designed to keep average wastelanders away from places
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>>340561507
>>340561515
I'm saying that maybe Freeside is shitty because it's full of shitty people.
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>>340561484
Hey, you want to drink in a desert, you gotta earn it
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>>340561598
Right, the NCR Squatters
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>>340561535
>cazadors
COMPLETELY harmless, those Cazadores! And STERILE!

Why, the very idea of them SLAUGHTERING innocent people and BREEDING is just LAUGHABLE!
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>>340561613
I'll just fucking squeeze it out of a cactus.

>>340561535
Deathclaws and Cazadors are in fact genetic experiments, but the former are Enclave and the latter are Big MT.

Lakelurks nobody knows. They're descended from snapping turtles, but those aren't native to Nevada or the surrounding states.
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>>340562132
>>340562162
>caring about lore
yawn
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>>340562362
Hi Pete
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>>340561598
reminder that the people who live there were removed from their previous homes by House 7 years before the courier arrived. 7 years is not a lot for building an economy out of quite literally nothing. well I guess there is that one semi-functional tap.
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>>340535641
Nothing gets me angrier than doing a Legion run, making an absolute joke of the Kings (exterminated) and pillaging NCR, Only to be told in the ending scenes that the NCR took over the Freeside. Wtf? Why wouldn't there be an ending where they both get fucked. It implies I helped the NCr. f0king 0bsidan
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>>340548939

The Chosen One must be mighty sad that the BoS reverted to its old roots.
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>>340562132
>ywn get Borous to impregnate you
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>>340563507
>not wanting to be Dala's teddybear

Pleb
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shi when?
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>>340535384
because the Kings lifestyle is a choice: the freedom to be your own king.
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>>340548939
Knowing Bethesda they probably made the Courier a transexual who later died of AIDS.

Who cares about the Lone Wanderer? That game isn't canon. 4 doesn't even follow up on it.
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Tunnel Snakes vs. The Kings

Who wins?
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>>340566802
the kings
the tunnel snakes are basically a group of kids from a private school in the suburbs coming together with their friends and making a club but call it a "gang" while the kings are actually a group of street enforcers
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>>340566802
So Butch versus The Kings?

Have him fist fight Pacer.
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>>340535384
Would you play a Fallout game set in the East taking place a decade after the violent dissolution of Caesar's Legion following the death of Caesar and Lanius?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10443498
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This is what Fallout has become
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>>340567438
>playing profligate shit
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>>340567438
Maybe if it's set in Two Sun and down into Mexico with South of the Border as the main theme
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>>340567481
n-word, please
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>want to replay New Vegas
>remember Dead Money
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>>340568110
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Also *this* shit
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>>340568307
Hey, that's still 2 dialogue options in the one decision tree. That's as good as F4 gets.
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>>340568307
>still getting over loss of wife
>when the player can be in a relationship with like 5 different companions
bethesda is garbage
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>>340567481
whose fucking idea was it to shoehorn in magic enchantments into fallout
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oh whoops. i meant THIS.
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>>340568215
Those have been there since 3
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>>340568537
>transistors
RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>340568531
They wanted it to be like borderlands
F4 is just a looter shooter, there's almost no RPG elements left.
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>BEEP
>BEEP
>BEEP BEEP BEEP
>BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP
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>>340541856
>inferring he had access to the platinum chip so that he could use said robots to achieve this

The entire plot of the game revolved around said chip being delivered to a place that was occupied. He'd only found it recently, and at the extreme end of his operational area.

With the upgrades, he gained access to a much larger number of robots, with better software, capable of doing shit they couldn't before. He was desperately trying to buy time between the NCR and Legion from stomping all over his shit.
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Hey anon, there's a new Fallout game developed by Obsidian up there on the ridge with the Geckos!
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>>340568537
>transistors
Actually I have a theory that transistors, while not created when they should have been, WERE eventually made before 2077.

When you first meet House he mentions 'being made of silicon', and why would he mention silicon if transistors hadn't been invented? I actually like to assume that House himself was the inventor of it in this timeline.
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>>340568609
Yes, they ended up invented in the Fallout world, just much later compared to the real world. Our big thing was transistors, theirs was nuclear power
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>>340568079
of course. that's what i meant.

i wanted to see what groups would form out of the Legion.

There'd probably be some guys who would build a society on Caesar's laws and perhaps some changes. There'd be another group of Lanius zealots who believe might is right. Then there would be some members who try to rebuild their previous tribes. Lastly, there would probably be some guys who want absolutely nothing to do with the Legion or tribe identity anymore and are willing to give technology and science a chance.
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Hey everybody go to the xbox website and get fallout 4 digital deluxe edition for free! It includes everything.
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>>340568537
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eyebot_upgrade_circuit_board

So what's your point here, buddy? Circuit boards don't exist when advanced robots and AI do? Or that Bethesda is the one who introduced them to the setting? Because you're wrong on both counts
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>>340569030
fan speculation does not fix plot holes
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im playing it for the first time

how do i join the ncr? they seem to be the least of all evils
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>>340569583
Try playing more
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>>340569583
NCR is crap. House or Independent all the way
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>>340569583

That's because the NCR is the peak of fucking incompetence, do their questline and be amazed by how corrupt and shitty they are.

You get invited to the NCRs embassy after visiting The Tops Casino in New Vegas and talking to Benny.
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>>340569678
I agree but don't tell people who to play, especially on their first playthrough.
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>>340569261
>yfw a group who idolize the legend of the burned man lead to the founding of New Constantinople
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>>340568079
>tfw the game was originally meant to encompass the legion lands as well but was cut due to jewthesda
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>>340535926
BoS are just well armed zealous bandits with a fetish for technology.

House runs on tech and hates sharing.

They could NEVER get along.

Fuck FO3 for making people think the BoS are good people.
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>>340569762
how do we know the Legion remnants would even seek out the Burned Man? Wouldn't they fear retaliation? They were also taught not to speak of him and to kill him on sight.
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>>340555703
No, I'M TEXAS RED!
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>he can barely keep his small gang from being massacred by the NCR

Yeah, this guy sure is a suitable leader
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>>340570162
>to kill him on sight
Only certain Frumentarii, the rank and file were told he's dead and gone
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>>340568531
I think New Vegas did that sort of thing alright, unique weapons that naturally did poison or acid or whatever damage, not randomly generated piece of shit weapons.
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>>340570461
Nope
The only poison weapons are melee, no guns have it, and 'acid' isn't a thing.
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>>340570461
if you wanted to be even more specific, all stat modifying equipment are magical enchantments as well.
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>>340570604
>acid' isn't a thing
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>>340570627
But they weren't RNG-based
The point of the image I posted was that it's a gun that shoots gamma radiation, and does extra damage to ghouls.
Ghouls are supposed to be healed by it.
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>>340570604
Ha
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Salt-Upon-Wounds'_power_fist
Ha
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Corrosive_glove
Ha
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>not having a gun that heals people with nuclear explosions
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>>340570782
Haven't played Fallout 4 but would that mean it theoretically heals ghouls more? Pretty sure the ghoul companion gets healed by it.
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>>340570461
I think it wouldn't be so bad, if these fucking F4 magic guns had different models. Like a previous owner tried to tinker with it.
But they don't, it's meme magic.
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Whats your current playthrough, /v/?
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>>340570968
>Fallout: Online's Endgame Healer Weapon
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>>340570782
>>340571059
bonuses that make sense are fine.
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>>340568079
How come San Fran wasn't mentioned in New Vegas at all?
Even as simple as Hsu mentioning he was a shi or something like that.
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>>340569762
>New Constantinople
>another Follower goes insane and emulates Old World society
>the Ottoman Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk
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how replayable is this game?

im considering buying it
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>>340571236
The Automans
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>>340571089
smooth operator with high barter, going to side with house
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>>340571090
>>340570968
Alternatively:
>Warburg Bio Nuke

https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Biological_Mutagens
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>>340571196
some locations and i think gangs were mentioned. Not sure if the asian population would travel to Nevada.
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>>340571236
>Ottoman Empire
>Civilization based around furniture
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>>340571296
there's a shit ton of endings, a shit ton of DLC endings, a shit ton of builds, etc.
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>>340571296
Far more than most RPGs
There's 4 major endings with dozens of variations
Every quest can be completed in 3 or more ways
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>>340571324
Nice. I'm doing an aging Sheriff (complete with the Alternate Start mod) who, while skilled, is beginning to realize he has his limits, and finds that what he lacks for in youth can be made up for via technology.

Basically a Cybersheriff.
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>>340540152
>Swanick is the only NPC programmed to feel pain
what
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>>340571351
Well he's a soldier so he doesn't get to choose where he is deployed.

Of course, California as a whole historically has a strong Asian population, so it's not like he HAS to be a Shi.
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>>340571351
There are asian characters in New Vegas.
Mostly as NCR soldiers, that's why I mentioned Hsu.
I don't recall the Shi joining the NCR, but one could probably still enlist.

Hubologists weren't mentioned either.
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>>340571589
dip you meme a it's
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>>340571296
There's quite a bit of shit you can do and most people squeeze at least 4 playthroughs out due to the faction system.
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>>340571701
They mention the Hub as a place. I don't remember specifically where.
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>>340571324
>>340571559
That's cool, I'm doing a father who lost his sun and will do whatever it takes to find him, also since he is such a nice guy, he just can't say no
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>Finding all these shells in Sierra Madre
>Can't find any shotguns
Second time through I am finding a lot more like I found the Automatic Rifle way earlier
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>>340571296
I played it for about 250 hours, but I didn't have a whole lot of other things going on my life back then
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>>340571592
>Chinese Americans
>in California
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>>340571858
WOW, me too!
But instead of a father its the mother, small world
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>>340571880
Shotgun? Shotgun?
Fountain, go left there's one behind a pillar. I found it 1000 hours later.
>>
Why would it be odd seeing Asians around America in Fallout, they've been there way before the war ever started.
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>>340554361

get a classic music mod
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>>340571852
The Hub and Hubologists aren't the same thing.

The Hub is a town
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hub

The Hubologists are a cult based in San Francisco
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hubologists
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>>340571701
>Hubologists weren't mentioned either.

That's because they all died on the rocket ship

>>340571880
There's a 12 gauge somewhere early in the villa, you have to like climb a ladder or something.
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>>340571701
>Hubologists weren't mentioned
Probably because they're a shitty Scientology joke we don't need to ever revisit

And because they die in every ending
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Was I wrong for getting the junk round perk?

Kinda tempted to swap it out with another perk from that level or should I just deal with it?
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>>340571880
near the entrance to Puesta Del Sol there's a single shotgun on an upper story balcony. You can reach it from the ground.

And on the way the police station there's one of Dean's stashes, nearby there's a Caravan Shotgun
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>>340572223
Junk Rounds is absolute dogshit unmodded. Strong contender for Worst Perk in the entire game.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40500/?
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>>340572223
It's only useful if you're playing a mod that makes ammo scarce.

It's not even really good in the Sierra Madre.
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>tfw sneaking out of the vault with all the gold
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>>340571970
>>340571858
Todddposting is my favorite meme
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>>340572089
>climb a ladder

I need a Todd.
Someone post a Todd for this.
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>>340571880
Aren't there rigged shotgun traps everywhere? I remember getting a lot of my firepower from those.
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>>340572197
Don't be such a negative nancy, it was a good reference to an existing aspect of California culture, where the game is set, and scientology started in the 50s and early 60s, where the game draws a lot of its aesthetic.
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>>340572398
Shotgun traps in NV just give you ammo, no gun
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>>340572398
Rigged shotguns in NV only give you a single round of ammo
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>>340572369
I hear he's not tall enough to ride a roller coaster.
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>>340571059
Actually, Hancock isn't healed by radiation damage weapons like most ghouls. Just as, even though Nick Valentine is clearly more robotic than biological as synths go, you still heal him with stimpacks instead of robot repair kits.

>>340571134
Honestly, I've been enjoying Fallout 4 for the most part, but the legendary system and some upgrades really bug me.

I feel like Cyro, Explosive, Incendiary, and Armor-piercing shouldn't be mods/legendaries, but ammo types you can modify your existing into and/or find.

Not to mention how, while it is cool to come across a bit of a tough guy, it annoys me how none of the named bosses are legendary class enemies.

And all legendary enemies basically draw from the same 'buff pool'.

If I had the skills, or had my say in development of FO4, legendary enemies (probably would have been named something different, not quite sure what) would have different buffs based on types of enemies you're fighting, for example:
>Super mutants will undergo a rapid evolution after losing 2/3rds their HP, they begin rapidly regenerating, drop their weapons, and 'hulk out' into a sort of mini-behemoth and come at you with their fists. They also gain immunity to fall damage and any time they jump or land, they do a power-armor "Impact landing" stunning you (and everyone else) and doing decent levels of damage.
>Creatures (like radstags, mongrel dogs, radroaches) will suddenly change into 'glowing' varieties of their animal type at 1/2 HP and begin emitting large amounts of radiation and afflict you with diseases when they attack. They also become much faster and will move erratically to get in range of you.
>Robots 'overclock' at 1/3rd HP and gain damage and attack rate boosts, as well as a minor speed buff and begin their self destruct protocols when you get them down to their last 1/5th of HP while using that speed to move towards you.

Not too sure about humans at the moment, or synths.
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>>340572369
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>>340571880
>5th dead money playthrough
>still find new shit every time
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>>340572324
Worst perks are still the ones that let you try locks and hacks after you fuck them up.
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>>340572558
>Just as, even though Nick Valentine is clearly more robotic than biological as synths go, you still heal him with stimpacks instead of robot repair kits.

Eh, you healed ED-E with stimpaks in NV, and I think you healed RL-3 with stimpaks in 3.
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>>340535926
>Pre Fallout 3 BoS are just slightly more civilized raiders in power armor that steal and kill for technology
>Fallout 3 comes along and suddenly BoS are power armored super heroes that exist to protect the wasteland
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>>340573189
>Pre Fallout 3 BoS are just slightly more civilized raiders in power armor that steal and kill for technology

Disgustingly gross exaggeration.

In 1 they were just somewhat isolationist army remnants with a focus on technology.
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>>340573096
True, though Codsworth cannot be healed with Stimpacks and they did later create robot repair kits for robotic companions such as Codsworth, ADA, pre-companion-quest Curie, and any other robots you might make.

In FO3 and NV, your options kind of just weren't there to have an army of robot followers. In FO4, it feels slightly egregious (slightly, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it) since they clearly had prepared Codsworth and Curie for this sort of thing, but not Nick.

I haven't quest checked, but I do think it's because Nick, in the CK files, is counted as human though. (with a special, baked on costume)
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>>340573616
I for one welcome our new robot companions, since I always play science characters.
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>I haven't quest checked, but I do think it's because Nick, in the CK files, is counted as human though. (with a special, baked on costume)

Makes sense, would explain why you can't change his outfit.

I disregarded healing robotic companions with stims in fallout 3/NV, it just seemed like how the companion system worked. Lore wise it makes no sense but it was just how the game mechanic ran.
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The kings can barely keeo freeside in check how the hell are they gonna take over?
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Civil War
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I actually wonder if, in some ways, they made robutt companions TOO good.

>They benefit from companion perks (such as magazines and Inspirational)
>They can carry loads far beyond what any normal companion can hold
>They don't judge you for your actions
>Carry powerful weapons that don't need ammo
>Can be sturdy as hell and hit like solid uranium trucks being dropped from low-orbit
>They occasional bouts of Bethesda Companion AI Stupidity is actually excusable from an in-universe standpoint
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