>To take Morrowind and then to completely rebuild it? It was an Xbox game. To completely rebuild it have it be relevant for today? That’s a pretty massive team doing a massive amount of work,
Bethesda's Pete Hines is saying Morrowind was an Xbox game. Isn't that nice?
http://www.gamesradar.com/a-skyrim-remaster-might-be-on-the-way-but-heres-why-bethesda-will-never-do-morrowind-hd/
Yes let's ignore PC as much as possible, never mind that the 3 previous Elder scrolls games were PC exclusive!
>>340522538
but it was an xbox game
what did he say that was wrong?
I honestly don't want modern Bethesda touching Morrowind anyway.
>>340523179
>I know it will work perfectly
Take the road from Vivec to Ebonheart. Most Xboxes shit themselves.
He's not the bad guy
>>340523270
It was an insult to the legacy of the Elder Scrolls franchise. The Xbox version was just a retarded version of the Pc version.
>>340523774
Who knew the "master race" were so sensitive about shit that doesn't matter.
>>340523909
Yeah sure, it's only like if Bethesda said Oblivion could never be remastered because it was made for mobile phones.
>>340524260
no it's not
>Morrowind was a masterpiece
>>340523179
>work perfectly
Nigger I played Morrowind on Xbox, it did not work perfectly.
>>340523594
I loved the game needing to load every five steps
just look at this shit why does Pete Hines even bother
seriously Morrowind fangirls do you want to see TES VI in the near future?
Why does he have to shit up both Fallout and TES with his bullshit attitude?
He brushes off Morrowind's very existence. He was completely dismissive of the previous Fallout lore. New Bethesda really are just thugs out for as much cash as possible, the older fans are just embarrassment to them.
>>340522538
Funny, considering fucking kids in their houses can rebuilt the whole game with the Skyrim engine with new voices, quests and shit.
I really hate these cunts at Bethesda. Todd and this guy seriously need to fuck off. Give Fallout to Obsidian and ES to Zenimax.
>>340524880
New Bethesda are just trying to become a publisher like Activision, they've published a few games over the last couple of years, now they're IP that made them, they are destroying by rushing them and over charging everything because they can.
They will never be Activision. It's a shame they're dragging Fallout and Elder Scrolls down with their stupid new aims.
>“You go back and look at it. Do you remember the dialogue system in Morrowind?” points out Hines. “Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
why are we giving todd howard shit again if pete hines is the casual faggot here?
>>340525029
>Funny, considering fucking kids in their houses can rebuilt the whole game with the Skyrim engine with new voices, quests and shit
you're giving skyrim mods too much credit, most are absolute trash
>>340524410
yes it is and you're being a cunt. it's a slap in the face to those of us playing since arena
all four of us
Morrowind is a perfect game, why would you want neo-Bethesda to go back and fuck it up?
>>340525354
>You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and it'll damage our new brand
So it's basically confirmed that they understand their new audience wants nothing in the way of RPGs, so they're no longer making RPGs.
This is the same kind of horse shit that led them to Fallout 4's dialog system. And they'll never let another studio take a crack at the series and make an actual RPG again because it confuses and divides their poor, stupid fanbase.
You know, TES is their baby to fuck up however they want, but I wish they'd just sell goddamned Fallout. It's sad when I say that I think Bioware might've made a more competent RPG.
>>340525029
>the Skyrim engine
It's the same engine.
What if Todd actually did nothing wrong?
What if he's been wanting to make good games only for Hines to constantly stop him and remove the features he promises?
>>340526258
It makes sense.
>>340525489
Todd is the face of the company and enables pete.
>>340525856
nah anon FO4 dialogue was just bad and poorly executed and also janky as fuck
They wanted to do the dialogue like Bioware style except that Bioware has far more experience with a voice protag and they are better at presentation in general.
>>340526258
I don't think Todd is as much of a faggot as /v/ pretends he is.
He's worked on Morrowind, he liked Kirkbride's stuff, I don't think he has ever called something too hard for players like Pete Hines does.
![[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_06.52_[2016.06.08_22.55.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NOssI1b.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv snapshot 06.52 [2016.06.08 22.55.48]")
>People care about Bethesda games
Pete Hines is quickly becoming one of the most unlikable people in the video game industry.
Why not remaster oblivion then? Why remaster something that has graphics so similar to fo4 anyway?
>>340526439
>le just werks manlet with an inferiority complex isn't as much of a faggot as /v/ pretends he is
>/v/ pretends
>>340524537
>Zero fatigue
Every time.
l2p
>>340526258
>>340526439
For all the memes I don't really mind Todd. He seems like a nice guy.
Some interviewer asked him at the Fallout 4 premier if Fallout was going to be a movie and Todd seemed a little annoyed and offended. Seems like he cares about vidya.
>some people actually believe that it makes financial sense to remake/remaster Morrowind
>There are people in this board who believe videogames isn't a business nor it should be
Look I want them to remake Oblivion which is objectively the best in the series, but it isn't going to happen. The remaster is Skyrim and you have to accept that because they are a company that, like any other company, exists to create profits.
>>340522538
hes right, the only people who would want a remake are the newfags that use morrowind overhaul and mge, and dont understand anything about the game other than it's an elder scrolls game
if they remade morrowind they would just fuck it all up
Pete is ruining Fallout and TES. Someone needs to kick him out. Holy fuck how come he is Vice president of Bethesda game studios.
>>340526790
yea good luck with that let me see you "remaster" the character models for all of the nps in Oblivion
Everyone forgets a huge problem that skyrim, oblivion, fallout 3 and fallout nv all share but morrowind got right
The stairs. In the later games If you try to run down stairs you just glide off the top step. If you want to actually descend the stairs step by step you have to walk. Same goes for hills. In morrowind you could be running super fast and still go down stairs properly
>>340526258
>"Can you help me? Pete Hines trapped my girlfriend on that ridge!"
I mean, he's right.
Would you rather pay a team to completely re-do every single texture, re-place every single object, record every single line of dialogue, possibly have to massively change the engine to get all of the skills and spells in and functioning properly, or would you rather just create an ultra-HD texture mod for Skyrim and then charge people $40 for it?
>>340526989
I seriously do not get why normies want a Skyrim remaster. What the fuck is the point? We've played that game for years. It's done.
Why have the put finances and time into a remaster of a game that isn't even that old. It seems fucking pointless. If anything, normies should be screaming for a Morrowind Remaster.
it's genuinely annoying me seeing normies hailing a Skyrim remaster, I don't fucking understand.
>>340522538
Can he even smile like an actual human at all?
Or is he like the guy who, when laughing, sounds like he is having an inverted coughing fit, everyone around him sharing nervous yet knowing glances, while no one tells him that that shit is creepy and weird?
>>340527531
And you are right but we don't know yet what they did with this "Enhanced Edition" maybe it is worth it we'll have to see.
There are many console players out there who are very excited about this.
>>340526807
>developers try to market their game
Bring the tar and feathers!
>>340524880
>New Bethesda really are just thugs out for as much cash as possible, the older fans are just embarrassment to them.
This is kind of like an obnoxious and loudly talking guy spouting idiocy all day berating you for being so stupid... while spitting parts of his meal in you face.
>>340527862
>Why have the put finances and time
They're just going to slap the HD texture pack that they released for the PC version on it and call it good. PS4 and Xbone are practically PCs, so it wouldn't be much effort to port the game over.
>>340528304
>developers make a shit, half assed game and sell it like it's the best thing ever
FTFY
>>340526690
I do since they pretty much have a monopoly on the type of games they do.
>>340526790
Because the normies don't care about Oblivion.
>tfw we will never have a Oblivion with Skyrim's graphics and combat while retaining the stat system
I don't really see how Morrowind could really be that improved. The graphics are fine(I mean, for their age) and the game still plays really well, but Oblivion is fucking tough to look at, even with mods.
>>340522538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz3OeROEt4M
>>340527862
Because it's cheap. It's not gonna be a remake, just basically just gonna be on par with the PC version with maybe some tacked on features like god rays.
>>340527862
If they released it for $40 or so I might snag it for PS4. I don't have a PC that can run it so it's kind of sort of attractive. IDK why I want to replay it but I'd give it another spin.
Not really something I ever asked for though.
Isn't this the same guy that basically said internal consistency in a fictional setting doesn't matter? Why the fuck should I care what a retard like that thinks?
>>340522538
That cocksucker is full of shit and just as unlikable and despicable as that Blizzard cock sucker Jay Wilson.
I hope he gets prostate cancer and dies.
>>340528646
>Skyrim combat
Disgusting
![[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_07.39_[2016.06.08_22.57.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nInfZSd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv snapshot 07.39 [2016.06.08 22.57.41]")
>>340528646
>Bethesda is the only one making RPGs
>>340529469
Cause he's in charge.
>>340526258
this is like when people learned Bobby Kotick was right about Tim Schafer.
>>340529605
Well, obviously I would prefer them making an even better combat system, but it's still better than the default Oblivion one.
>>340529608
How many other first person sandbox RPG's with huge interactivity do you know of?
>>340523179
TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES
>>340526258
I'd feel a little bad about the memes.
>>340526690
/v/ loves babies first RPG series
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>>340529859
>first person sandbox RPG's
Who cares if it's first person? especially when it is godawful first person with weightless weapons, zero impact and way points everywhere.
>huge interactivity
Nigga what? The interactivity in these games is garbage. Unless you're talking about the way you can pick up random bits of garbage in the game world and pose them around your house like an autistic hoarder. In terms of player interaction and control over the story as well as well as control over quest outcomes, bethesda games are fucking shit. Rather than create endings for different scenarios they just rail road you through the entire story and then give you a choice right at the end to choose the flavor of ending you want. They literally just make dozens of NPCs completely invincible because creating stories where they could die and it actually affects anything would be too hard.
>>340528646
>Because the normies don't care about Oblivion.
So Oblivion is a hardcore game for jaded outcasts now. Okay.
>>340528071
You seriously have never met anyone with this type of facial structure before?
>>340522538
>to remake Morrowind we would actually have to put in a bit of effort instead of just slapping on some HD textures and mod support for consoles like we're going to do with Skyrim
Good to know
>>340530558
>Who cares if it's first person?
I do? It's why I like them so much. You lose so much immersion when it's in third person. So many devs shoot themselves in the foot by forcing us to play in third person.
>The interactivity in these games is garbage
Not really. You can talk with every NPC and find that they usually have at least a few unique lines and they have a specific schedules and living quarters you can interact with. The alchemy, spell crafting, enchanting, hell even crafting to a point, is usually more involved than most RPG.Good amount of unique side quests that often leads to to interesting places. Many factions, fair amount of classes and play styles. All this in a package where everything can be experienced in first person.
Sure it's no Dwarf Fortress or Fallout 1-2. But to say it has litter interactivity compared to most RPG's is just silly.
>>340530943
Not sure where you got that from. It's no lie that Skyrim is Skyrim and Morrowind is fairly famous for being "old and cool". Oblivion just sort of sits there. Having many strong points and many bad points.
>>340526989
Objectively the best? In terms of?
Morrowind was Objectively best, hands down. Oblivion was a streamlined HD Morrowind with about 1/6 of the explorative content.
>>340531846
Implying any of you turds would actually buy a Morrowind remake.
>>340532205
Not him. But that's why I think Oblivion should be remade. It arguably has the most to gain from a revamp. Morrowind is already great as it is and tampering will just lead to it becoming worse, and Skyrim is mostly beyond fixing and needs to be reworked from the ground up.
But Oblivion has the framework to be really great, it just needs a lot more work to get there.
>>340532363
If the gameplay remain relatively intact and wasn't just Skyrim in Vvardenfell I would.
>>340532363
I would instantly preorder it even if it's shit
>>340531989
So you can keep immersed in a game that looks like shit, has 4 voice actors and the AI of a punch card computer? Thats pretty impressive.
>You can talk with every npc
No, you can talk with a very small number of npcs; but you can cause all npcs to spew out a very small series of lines. ARROW IN THE KNEE LOL.
> The alchemy, spell crafting, enchanting, hell even crafting to a point, is usually more involved than most RPG.
No, it really isn't. Spell crafting has only become more restricted as the series went on, and all the others are just lists of ingredients with modifiers on them.
Really this is all moot because you can have a massively complex game but it doesn't make a difference if it's all garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvA4aZS7rs
>>340527531
>ultra HD
Skyrim remaster will probably just be whatever vanilla Skyrim is on high settings on PC
>>340532363
Oh, people would. Your typical consumer today wouldnt, since most of retards would love to buy Skyrim for second time and seriously beleive that next TES should be "Skyrim 2".
We are minority.
The Elder Scrolls really is doomed, isn't it? Why do I keep lying to myself?
>>340532752
>Thats pretty impressive.
Thank you.
>but you can cause all npcs to spew out a very small series of lines.
They still usually have a few unique lines though, to give them a bit of a background or personality if they are a named character. Which most are.Well, obviously not Daggerfall.
>Spell crafting has only become more restricted as the series went on
Doesn't change what the other games have.
>and all the others are just lists of ingredients with modifiers on them.
With some pretty expansive effects, and the sheer amount of ingredients are pretty amazing. And then there are modifiers that affect them like what type of alchemy equipment you have. What other sandbox RPG's have more advanced alchemy?
>Really this is all moot because you can have a massively complex game but it doesn't make a difference if it's all garbage.
Good thing it isn't then.
>>340533020
worseit would probably be on the new shitty version of creation(gamebyro) that fallout 4 used
>>340529596
wow that made me laff
![[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_12.05_[2016.06.08_23.02.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3nqMZJB.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv snapshot 12.05 [2016.06.08 23.02.56]")
>>340533356
Go to bed Todd.
>>340533305
Asking myself the same question.
>>340523179
>Todd Howard lying since early 2000
>>340522538
Does there exist a more punchable face?
>>340533305
Because the only competitor in this kind of RPGs was Gothic and that series is pretty much dead anyway?
Lets be honest, there is nothing else that could replace TES games.
>>340533496
Later.
You have no idea how much I would love to see more games like TES and the newer Fallout's in the hands of better devs(just look at what Obsidian did to NV). But Beth are still pretty much the only ones who makes those types of games, and I love the concept of them so god damn fucking much.
>>340533692
>>340531989
what the fuck
is Skyrim the only "RPG" you have ever played?
>>340522538
that, fucking, grin.
>>340533823
No. But it is one of the very few first person open world sandbox RPG's with a good amount of interaction I've played.
If you know of any more than please by all means tell me. I would be all over that shit.
>>340526690
>People care about anime
>People actually waste time watching that shitty garbage animation from Japan
>>340526989
>Sucking corporate schlong
>Thinking Oblivion is the objective best game
Wew lad, at least pretend you're trying
It would take too much effort for them to remake it. Things would get to confusing for casuals if they went ahead and implemented the mount and blade type combat they were going for when they were making the game.
And since people can't seem to read for two minutes in role playing games, follow directions to a location, or bother exploring without some sort of fast travel system, there would be no interest in the game.
That being said, the game is still fine even today with the wide screen support mod and a couple bug fixes.
>>340534051
Go play Deus Ex
Even GTAV has more player interaction and RPG elements than Skryim
>>340531208
What type would that be?
>>340534275
>mount and blade type combat they were going for when they were making the game
the fuck? what game are we talking about again?
>>340532363
Because Morrowind has a whole bunch of graphics mods already.
Not to mention OpenMW is out soon, making a HD remake even more redundant.
>>340534358
Deus Ex ain't open world, or sandbox.Still great though.
Actually GTAV sort of fits the criteria if I think about it. Even if the RPG part is even more of an afterthought than Skyrims.
>>340533692
Tim Schafer
Ashton Kutcher
Bam Margera
Seth Green
![[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_17.28_[2016.06.08_23.15.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bTFf3Dw.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ushio to Tora - 24 [1080p].mkv snapshot 17.28 [2016.06.08 23.15.49]")
>>340534184
>Ushio to tora is shitty
You shit, son
>>340534358
>Even GTAV has more player interaction and RPG elements than Skryim
This is the most ignorant post I've read around here in a fucking while
just think for moment before your click Post for fuck sake man
>>340534536
Sure, if OpenMW adds combat animations, fixes alchemy, etc etc
Even if they're planning to, it'll probably take years.
>>340534658
It's incredible how the animation gets worse year by year, but the slant eyes still manage to earn a profit.
>>340534536
>Not to mention OpenMW is out soon
I heard that story year ago. SOON.
Of course that I would like to see it out, but I dont really expect that anymore.
>>340534531
Morrowind.
In some article somewhere they said they wanted to make a unique combat system where you could attack and block in multiple directions.
>>340534593
What's wrong with Seth Green?
>>340534670
>just think for moment before your click Post for fuck sake man
But if people did that it wouldn't be 4chan anymore.
>>340535030
Well, Morrowind's combat system is about as far from that of Mount&Blade as it could possibly get.
>>340534536
A proper "remake" wouldn't just be graphics.
It would mean adding some of the mechanics from the later games (dual-wielding....), voicing all the dialogue and many other things. It would cost way more than they would get from all the Morrowind neckbeards that would actually buy the game.
>>340535065
He was probably thinking about some of his expressions.
>>340535328
>It would cost way more than they would get
Not necessarily, if they marketed it properly. Which, chances are, they're incapable of doing, but that's another issue.
I don't even care that Morrowind isn't getting a remake as it doesn't need one, it's just this faggot's attitude and casual enabling that pisses me off
>>340535601
>call it "Skyrim 2: Morrowind"
>"This is Todd, we have decided to buy China for a third of out profits."
>>340535839
It does need one, just not one made by Bethesda because they've forgotten how to make good games.
>>340536008
To be fair. Pretty much everyone has forgotten how to make good games.
Actually, thinking about it Zenimax has actually made some decent reboots lately, Wolfenstein and Doom were more than passable.
>>340522538
Gee, it's almost like 90% of last two TES games sales were on consoles or something. Of course he'd play up that angle more.
>>340526824
Doesn't have 0 fatigue for 99% of that webm
>>340536101
They made shit creatively aside from providing money to good developers. And there's nothing really wrong with that as long as we get good games out of it.
>>340536101
There's probably an ambitious indie team out there who could do it (read: modders with a budget)
>>340536260
It doesn't have to be 0. The lower it is, the worse it is, and that one starts out pretty damn low.
>>340536087
I'd like to see the outtakes :)
>>340536712
check your pm ^^
>>340522538
dude looks like an ogre disguised as a human
>>340536712
There are none when you know how to build a character properly ;)
>>340525695
The game at most is 7/10
>>340535839
The main reason I want a remake is do I can see how long it takes /v/ to say that the new version "hasn't aged well"....
>>340527438
Finally, someone gets it.
it WAS an xbox game though. it was literally on xbox.
you guys are acting more autistic than /r/pcmasterrace. he didn't say that as some sort of attack against le ebin pc. he's saying that it's an rpg from 2002. a simple "remaster" wouldn't work, you'd have to rebuilt the game from the ground up.
regardless, the main reason they're remastering skyrim is so they can expand their bethesda.net console modding platform. they've wanted mods on console for a long time, and now they have fallout 4 mods on console. bringing skyrim mods to console is an obvious and easy way for them to continue expanding their platform.
>>340528071
Quotes like these somewhat piss me off, but not about that guy.
I have no idea who he is, but fully believe he is a retard just because if he was involved with Fallout 3 and 4 he is shit and a fucking retard.
My problem is however that tons of dialogue, even in an RPG, is fucking terrible. Forcing a person to sit around and listen to a ton of people is usually a sign of really shitty long winded writing. RPG's are not real life, they are supposed to be interesting. Conversations should be things that keep you engaged for their duration. It's not like real life where people drone on about shit you could not care less about.
Playing through a lot of older games you get that a lot. Unfortunately in newer games they didn't "fix it," they just made you shorter burst of insanely boring shit you don't care about.
>>340526439
Yes, lets ignore the pr bullshit he's been spewing for over a decade now.
Its part of his job sure, but that doesn't mean hes not a faggot in this industry.
>fanbase shits on a gaming company and their other fans for a decade
>they're angry and surprised that company doesn't want to cater to them
You can't make this stuff up.
>>340539569
Everything in these tweets is fine.
>>340539454
I hate Besethda and shit on them but I haven't bought any of their shit in 10 years. I don't understand these faggots who shit on them and get really mad at their business and games and whatever but them buy them anyway. Is there really a place in their brain where they believe they will change if they keep giving them money?
>>340539569
>>340539658
what are you trying to accomplish with those screencaps?
>>340539569
>>340539658
hines is dumb but there's nothing wrong with these tweets. big business doesn't care about your childish desire to play games early, nor should it care. a company has every right to control its products when it can do so.
>hey i know ur restaurant doesn't open for another week but i heard that some people got to try a special hosted food tasting here so like cmon man let me eat there early i know you have plans other whatever but im a consumerist millennial who is supposed to get what i want when i want it just open up your restaurant a week early for me please its not a big deal i mean come on it's 2016 i should get what i want
>>340535839
He knows who butters his bread, and it's not /v/.
>>340536008
>forgotten
They never knew how.
>>340526723
And in an industry that's already full of unlikable people, that's saying something.
>>340526790
>Why not remaster oblivion then?
Then they'd have to do actual work instead of just tightening up the graphics and calling it a day.
>>340527274
It's already been done.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/44676/?
>>340540058
This.
Executives like him clearly don't care about pushing a good product. They just focus on sales. He clearly shouldn't be the "face" of Bethesda since he clearly doesn't care about the older games the studio produced.
>>340527438
I've noticed that too. It's very annoying.
>>340524619
works as well as any modern bethesda game on console.
>>340529608
That's not what he said. He said they're the only ones making their particular type of RPG, and that's true. Name one other game that plays like the TES games while offering the same level of moddability.
>>340532205
Oblivion had the best quests.
>>340534569
>Deus Ex ain't open world, or sandbox.
Or fantasy. That's kind of important. You wouldn't recommend D&D for someone who wants to play a cyberpunk hacker. You'd point them to Shadowrun or something.
>>340524831
>Not the amount of reading
Lying piece of shit.
>>340539758
>I don't understand these faggots who shit on them and get really mad at their business and games and whatever but them buy them anyway. Is there really a place in their brain where they believe they will change if they keep giving them money?
Like others have said, no one else really makes the same kind of games they do. Maybe some of those people think buying TES games will show other devs that there's a market for similar games and we'll get high-quality TES clones.
>>340539569
>>340539658
???
why exactly did you post these
but more importantly why is this guy responding to all of these hysterical manchildren on his "personal" twitter account
Im just hopping into this thread because it had morrowind in the title
About a week ago I decided to start playing Morrowind again. Just after this, I've been seeing Morrowind threads almost every day, people are talking about playing Morrowind again, and Morrowind is getting alot of attention in general. All after i had started a new playthrough. This isn't the first time it's happened either, in fact it happens pretty consistently. It's like our cycles are synced.
So here's my question. Did anyone else experience this? Did anybody else here get the urge to play Morrowind before seeing all the threads pop up? I think it's evidence of a morphogenetic field
>>340541026
Nice call back.
>>340526258
Having worked with them,Did some programming work on oblivion. Nothing major, as I had just gotten my masters and that would have been my second job ever, unless you count internships, I'd have to say that's pretty much the case. Todd actually has passion for what he does, and though he does "lie" it's mostly because he doesn't have much involvement in the actual PR campaign creation. He get's handed a script to memorize for presentations and that's about it. He actually enjoys making games and wants to make them as good and fun as possible (unfortunately corporate gets in the way of that. A lot).
Hines doesn't have the same passion, he doesn't really care about what he's making, and that's why he acts the way he does.
>>340542517
Not really, I've been playing it on and off for years now.
>uninstalling Morrowind
>ever
>>340539569
>>340539658
Nothing wrong about this here. Only thing wrong is that he argues with them. More sensible would be for him to link them a youtube vid that explains review and streaming embargoes.
>>340542782
If that's true, it must be awful for him to see everyone giving him shit because he's the face of the company even if a lot of things aren't under his control.
The mage that dies from jumping in Morrowind is named Tarhiel.
You can change the sword Gold Brand into Eltonbrand.
Both are for Pete Hines.Demon Deacon is his twitter name for a reason.
He has been there a long ass time and has the leeway to talk shit to the retards that happen onto his twitter.
>>340543097
Back when I worked there, and as far as I know this is still true, Todd doesn't really have much of an internet presence. Now, he could post on sites like this or random forums (I wouldn't know, I don't have access to his internet history and browsing data), but it's entirely possible he really doesn't know much about Toddposting. And even if he did, I doubt it would bother him. He's a rather chill guy, not liable to get upset at stupid stuff like that.
>>340543492
>He has been there a long ass time and has the leeway to talk shit to the retards that happen onto his twitter.
Yes, and now he's stopped making RPGs in order to cater to Beth's new clientele of faggot casuals that think Fallout 4 and Skyrim are the apex RPG design.
He deserves no respect. No developer that sells out and makes garbage deserves respect. GabeN stopped making games completely and shafted every Half-Life fan, yet people still suck his dick. John Carmack is making Facebook goggles for the Jew Emperor of mankind.
Did these guys do good things? Yeah. Are they doing good things now? No. They ceased to be relevant when they started producing garbage. Carmack is forgivable because he seems more keen on the technology side of things than videogames, hence his work on VR. But people still wank on him as a game dev, when he hasn't done anything relevant to videogames for years.
>>340543674
Well, Toddposting really took off after Skyrim, so I don't think he could be unaware of it if he spends any time reading anything about his games. Still, it's good to know it might not bother him that much. I remember seeing some people calling him "Shitler", which I thought was so ridiculous I just had to laugh, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant seriously and was more of a caricature of the things his critics say about him. Hopefully he'd get a laugh out of it as well.
>>340542418
Then you guys are delusional. You want "high quality" games with "shit loads of content" but expect some random small developer to do that? Creating that shit cost millions which means it will always try to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
What emotion is this expression trying to convey?
>>340544539
They could probably cut costs if they decided to leave the game unvoiced and kept the graphics modest, neither of which would bother me. In fact, not having voice acting would also give them greater freedom to write more stuff.
>>340528317
AND THEEERE IT IS FRIENDS! THE UGLY TRUTH
>>340544606
"I've just been asked a question I have no good answer for and am struggling to think of how I'll bullshit my way out of this."
>>340522538
>Pete "lmao its just a game, u nerd" Hines
Ok.
>>340544606
>It doesn't even matter what I say to these morons, our games will sell 10 million copies anyway at this point, can't wait to retire after 3 more games
>>340522538
He's right though. You wouldn't want a Morrowind remake. Bethesda wouldn't make it nearly the same because casuals wouldn't buy it. It'd be Skyrim with mushrooms.
>>340522538
I'm so glad this fucking huge turd joined so late in the development process of Morrowind he barely affected anything.
Too bad his infection of shitty marketing ideas did take root in the later games, tho.
>>340545379
They did Solstheim in Dragonborn that's the fanservice for you Morrowind fans
>>340545379
>It'd be Skyrim with mushrooms.
That's what Morrowind has always been but you guys will never admit it.
>>340544606
"Oh boy another Jet question."
FO 2 tells you Myron lied .Deal with it nerds.
>>340545990
Morrowind has attributes, classes, deeper enchanting systems, way more armor and weapon types, but okay.
>>340545526
He was always a PR guy not a dev.
>>340538860
Here, I made this masterpiece just for you.
>>340524537
jesus you suck. you lost all your fatigue and passed out
>>340529313
So boot up the copy you already bought instead of blowing $40 on it again
>>340546419
10/10
>>340546245
So add
Mushrooms
Broken enchanting
Broken Alchemy
30 more equipment slots
and of course
Shitty combat
And that will tickle your pickle?
>>340545990
>>340546245
Add to that magic that's been missing since Oblivion, much more original factions , creatures, quests, and culture, mark/recall/stilt striders instead of fast travel, hand-placed loot, no level scaling...there's more, I'm sure.
Funny thing is, Skyrim would simply be a better game for having this content in it. It's either by virtue of laziness or the need for everything to be "streamlined" that none of this is in.
>>340546620
You forgot classes, attributes and weapon variety. Don't need to add shitty combat though. Every Elder Scrolls game already had that.
>>340546245
The core experience of every TES game since Daggerfall has been the same. The frame was changed a bit.
>>340546768
>classes, attributes
memes, superfluous memes
>>340546908
Honestly I disagree. I think Morrowind having a smaller, condensed world radically changed the formula.
>>340522538
It was an Xbox game, the controls and interface were garbage on PC, even if PC was the definitive version
>>340522538
haha so true.
looks like I'm a #Hineseken now!
>>340524537
>no fatigue
>probably also has short blade skill in misc skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8yCWF4cBY
>>340525856
A least Bioware would have given you the option to have sex with a super mutant.
>>340546245
>Morrowind classes
So aside from skill and attribute bonus at the start how relevant are they in the rest of the game?
Most players and guides say that they don't matter at all and you can become a warrior-mage-stealth character anyway at high lvl.
They should have advantages and disadvantages.
Wouldn't it had been interesting if magic classes could have Magicka regen by default and the warrior and stealth ones have to use gear or potion to get it.
>>340548282
Or a ghoul.
>>340547143
that's true that was a big change for the series but it was the obvious thing to do.
ever since morrowind it's been pretty much the same formula so much for the errtime we do one we have the opportunity to reboot the series - that's another Howard meme
change is definitely needed to keep things fresh you see how many have said that fallout 4 feels so very familiar and it was too familiar in fact oblivion with guns,skyrim with guns? not too far off
>>340548183
kek
>>340547623
>>340548183
they look the exact same god damn
>>340548636
You see that ghoul? You can fuck it! (in the dlc)
>>340522538
This desu senpai
>>340546768
Has anyone ever played one of the classes in a TES game?
I guess the three archetypes get some time but custom is the norm.
>>340522538
>Pete Hines
Why is this man even allowed to represent the company? All he does is say stupid shit and get ridiculed for it.
>>340548636
Or Curie in robot form.
>>340549585
>Has anyone ever played one of the classes in a TES game?
I think I did it once in my very first playthrough of Oblivion when I was completely new to the series, but I quickly realized that classes are meaningless in TES and made a custom class every time after that.
>>340533665
Lying his whole fucking life.
>>340549585
The default classes while thematic were shit in actual gameplay. This was true in both morrowind and oblivion. I can't imagine anyone not new to the series using them.
>>340549129
I would seriously love it if Todd actually said something like this. He probably would, too, if those earlier posts about him are true.
>>340550651
Yeah, it's not like choosing a class gave you access to anything you couldn't get otherwise. Skyrim has its problems, but getting rid of classes isn't really one of them.
>>340524537
>bad at video games
>"the game is bad"
>t. you
>>340548636
fucking disgusting
give fallout to obsidian for fuck sake
>>340548183
AHAHAHAHA
>>340524537
Morrowinds combat was a bad idea that was poorly implemented.
It was like trying to broadcast a cartoon live.
>>340551065
Obsidian hates romance.
>>340522538
does anyone have the quote of him saying dialogue is boring and he wishes he could just walk away?
>>340539569
he fucking knows he destroyed 4 and didn't want any to see the abomination or sales would have dropped
elder scrolls single player is dead, I hope Zenimax Studios make a sequel to ESO. Shit was cash and atmospheric with love put into it.
>>340551269
No they hate straight romance
>>340522538
>It was an Xbox game.
>>340550651
>>340550864
I guess classes are good to guide new players in choosing an effective playstyle I mean if you're really new to this kind of games but really they did a shitty job at that
>>340548636
she's not even moist not at all
>>340526258
THIS
IT IS NOT MY FAULT
>>340548183
Oh my god
>>340551568
>she's not even moist not at all
If that were the case, I don't think she'd be coming on to you.
It was indeed an xbox game
I remember my friend at like 12 years old calling me and telling me to play it. It was very popular too.
literal retards clinging to muh master race and hating people more successful. Truly disgusting.
a remake would be cool but he's right. It would take a huge team and why would they do that when their new games are selling many millions of units.
>>340544606
>what a buncha nerds, why am i talking to these nolifers?
>>340551646
It's a little bit Todd's fault.
>>340551781
Yeah! Why would you remake the best game of your series? It's not like it would be profitable, what demand? Pfffffcfcht, what do you mean "fans"? Let's get to work on Skyrim 2, THAT is what people want. I'll take shallow gameplay, easy on the content, and watered down graphics please.
>>340548636
You can have hot gay sex with Hancock.
>>340526258
>Todd wants to be hardcore but Pete won't let him
Funny, but I wouldn't count on it.
>>340527531
And yet we have mods like Interesting NPCs or Falskaar that do literally all of this for fucking free by some random teenager. But yeah, I'm sure this would be so hard for a corporate giant whose zero effort games sell 10~20 million units each.
>>340552674
>Falskaar
Absolutely shit.
Remastering a game is HARD WORK. Work is BORING, am I right? Just like dialogue. Ugh. Now that all of that silly "remake" talk is out of the way... who wants a new Fallout game?
>>340552863
It's not that bad. It's basically just more Skyrim. Nothing that really does anything different, but it's fun enough.
>>340551781
You're a fucking idiot.
People are mad because Hines is shitting on PC by saying morrowind was an Xbox game, forgetting that morrowind and all previous elder scrolls games were made on PC.
PC users made Bethesda who they are today, and Bethesda is pissing on them.
>>340551324
It's already been posted: >>340542262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HkuhSEnPQ
>>340544606
>Costanza
>>340553320
I wish Hines would walk away from Bethesda.
Maybe EA will give him a job
>>340552367
I love the inconsistency. One person comes on to you and all you can say is "I won't sleep with you because I just lost my spouse." Meanwhile, at the exact same time, you could very easily be in a romance with your companion that started after even less time had passed since your loss.
Although, this is the same game where a kid doesn't go insane from 200 years of total isolation, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
>>340553663
Or this one?
>>340553237
The success of the xbox version of Morrowind is the only reason Bethesda survived.
>>340553663
Or maybe this one
>>340530558
Ushio and Tora is a pretty GOAT series
They've literally always claimed it was an Xbox game.
>>340554237
*Citation needed
>>340523179
lol i had morrowind for xbox before i got a PC good enough to run it
it was anything but stable on xbox
>>340554742
This.
Not to mention the UI was absolute shit
>>340528071
>>340548183
STOPID HOOMAN, WHY YUO TALK THHHO MUCH.
ME SHMASH DEATHCLAH
ME MAKE GOOD ACTION GAME
>>340555016
I can't be bothered to read all this. So here's a response.
>>340554857
the draw distance was laughable, the water effects, magic effects, textures. everything. the journal was unusable. it was horrible visually. and even with all that the frame rate was shit
i remember going back to it after playing the PC version and being taken blown away by how fucking shit it was by comparison
all that being said, playing morrowind fr the first time, even on xbox, was one of the best experiences ive ever had in gaming. and the fact that you could seemlessly swap to the GOTY edition was great
but that was also the moment that i realised just how inferior consoles are. and how most or maybe even all console players who claim to prefer consoles are just waiting to be redpilled
>>340522538
>PCucks btfo again: the thread
All of my keks
>>340555434
>skyrim remaster
>a game that is younger than you by 4 years
must be PCucks
>>340536101
>Pretty much everyone has forgotten how to make good games
>>340554512
It is on the series of videos that cover Bethesda from Terminator and selling the football game that became Madden up until Oblivion that show up here every now and again.
Also there are many articles they credit the XBox launch for saving the company.It shouldn't be hard to google them if you really care to.
>>340523774
>legacy
TES is a shit series
>>340556207
Well, you made the claim, so burden of proof is on you.
>>340556616
Well they were on the verge of going under at the time of Morrowind.
This is what being PC centric got them.
The PC sales were solid but the console launch exceeded every expectation.
Look up sales figures if you want.
>>340522538
How old do you think that dude in pic looks /v/? Just curious.
>>340523179
>bethesda isn't actually located in bethesda
>>340558083
Whatever anon.
You were wrong I pointed it out.
I gave you the tools if you care to use them.
If you like your version of reality fair enough.
I prefer to be correct.
>>340558639
Until I see proof, I assume you're literally making shit up.
>>340557685
I can vouch on this, when Morrowind was still a PC only game none of the people I knew ever never played it (not that I was trying to push it that much), but the moment it became a Xbox title too they were all swarming over it
>>340559434
Anecdotal.
>>340523179
I played Morrowind on Xbox and dealt with all the corrupted saves and glitches until it actually killed the system.
The disc started melting from overheat and black smoke came out of the back of the console.
>>340522538
Cool. I'll just stick to OpenMW or Skywind.
Or maybe OpenMW but with Skywind's OST considering they're getting vocals for shit like Nerevar Rising in Dunmeri.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbR1o33M7Rs
>>340559563
True, but it holds some value being a personal experience of the said issue.
Well, at least for me it does.
>>340558845
Fair enough.
I don't blame you for not trusting every anon.
If the vids ever pop up again watch them.They are well done and interesting on their own.
>>340558083
>/pol/ meme
I fucking hate all of you nostalgia fags. Morrowind is outdated shit. The dice roll combat is unimmersive, the dialogue system where litterally 90% of NPCs repeat the same walls of text is shit and unimmersive and the animations themselves are shit. The game is outdated almost nothing in it is great by today's standards. Sure medium armor is cool, spears and shurikens, the diversity in equipment is all great, but it's nothing major, the core game is FUCKED mostly by today's standards where Oblivion and skyrim exist. (coming from a guy who likes Fallout 1 and 2)
>>340559723
>>340559910
It's nothing personal, I want to believe, I just couldn't find the evidence quickly (was at work).
I'll do a more in depth search later.
>>340560852
Shh, don't trigger the Morrowind Defence Force.
>>340560852
> Coming from a guy who likes...
Falseflagging like a motherfucker
>>340524537
It's kind of sad how a game with combat this unbelievably bad still manages to be so much more engaging than anything Bethesda have created post Oblivion, including.
>>340560852
But, but.....pauldrons and levitation and....
>>340561438
If i were on my computer i would cap my fallout play time.
>>340522538
>"Give her the goofballs Pete."
>>340522538
Relevant means censored and casualized
>>340522538
>Pete "Goofball" Hines and Todd "Dreamboy" Howard
>trusting the word of either of these men in regards to video games
That was your first mistake op.
>>340561697
And...mushrooms! And...and CHIM!
>>340560852
Cool, then play Skywind. It's coming along remarkably fast. Or Morroblivion, which is actually finished. Those who don't mind the dice roll combat and such will play OpenMW.
People who want Morrowind with Oblivion/Skyrim mechanics can have it, as can those who want just a straight remake can have that too. Don't know why ya'll niggas gotta fuss when everyone gets exactly what they wanted.
>>340558248
Forty-something.
Call it forty three.
>>340526258
What boggles my mind is that he made the fucking claim of "Fallout 4 will not have loading times" when the game was less than half a year from release, was he expecting to actually make the game not need loading or just told to say such obvious bullshit knowing the fanboys would defend it regardless?
>>340563747
>le compromise meme
>>>/r/eddit
>>340564193
Well, if >>340542782 is right, it might not have been his choice to say that.
>>340536087
>15 point bonus for race
>5 for major
>Somehow skill is 68
Nice try Morrowshit.
all morrowind fags belong in /vr/
>>340526258
todd is a dreamboy then?
>>340564193
>"Fallout 4 will not have loading times"
I don't think he ever said that. It was YongYea on Youtube who speculated this and took some stuff Todd said in an interview that wasn't even about Fo4 about that being a possibility in the future.
>>340564775
>not acceptable liking an RPG I don't like on /v
>>340563747
Hasn't skywind been in development for a long ass time now?
>>340564775
>Morrowind (2002)
>"""""""retro""""""
I was hoping for the day Skyrim would be considered old-school game with a much smaller niche following, but alas with the whole remake thing I will have to wait even longer.
>>340549814
I live Curie in any form, but her robot form was cuter. I would gladly have been in a romantic relationship with robot Curie
>>340560852
>muh immersion
>>340566036
Skyrim doesnt have dice rolls, horrible samey npcs that speak like wiki pages, etc. Skyrim will only be old school in graphics, not core mechanics
>>340559703
Morrowind's main theme is literally perfect as it is.
>>340564775
>How DARE you to talk about video games I don't like!
>>340566807
>horrible samey npcs that speak like wiki pages
Instead it has horrible samey npcs that barely speak at all.
>>340566807
Skyrim is practically just oblivion and fallout 3 with a few extra bits
>>340566807
That was more of a joke about how some games are considered good and hardcore mostly because they're old.
Besides Morrowind was innovative in many ways and paved the way for a new kind of open-world games. I consider it to be a "New" game.
>>340546419
>>340566967
Why would you repost the same shit in one thread?
>>340565997
So was Morroblivion. It got finished and a lot of the team members from that have moved on to Skyrim, and it's active, so I'll give it a shot. Don't know if it'll be good, but I'll try it.
Same with pic related. It was in development for the longest fucking time and it's pretty much the sub mod to get for TATW (which is in itself so good it justifies actually buying M2TW). To hear it from DaC's team leader, all that's left for 1.0 is to finish the Khazad-Dum script (it's currently at 0.52 and perfectly playable).
Another example is theSong of Ice and Firemod for Crusader Kings 2. Took forever to get done and is still being worked on. But it's extremely solid and arguably has more shit than the actual vanilla game with mechanics for the most inane fucking shit (reviving the Valyrian empire, becoming the Night's King complete with Otherfu, Yi Ti, the War for the Dawn, etc).
Bigass mods take a long time. It's not until you don't hear anything for several months (I usually give it 3 - 4) that it's time to worry.
Why would they remake Morrowind in 'HD', exactly?
If you can't get past the graphics, then the game REALLY wouldn't hold your attention for long.
Besides, there are mods that go a long way in making it better already.
>>340556616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z918yUSARs&list=PL6AC1797F9DF1255A&index=2
start at 5:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WufoVovUR9g&list=PL6AC1797F9DF1255A&index=3
around 9:30
jesus you fags are unbelivable
>>340567373
>>340567072
Look, certain generes get to the point where you really can't improve much on core mechanics, you can only really drastically improve asthetically. Look at fighting games like Street Fighter, the gameplay is almost the same, the only massive, noticeable change is the graphical fidelity. The older games are only deemed retro because of their look
>>340567527
That second one is one I made a while ago, I didn't know one was already posted in the thread
>>340568189
>Look, certain generes get to the point where you really can't improve much on core mechanics
Sure, but RPGs sure as hell aren't at that point.
>>340551427
There were no romance options in New Vegas to begin with, gay or straight. I'm assuming you're thinking of Arcade, who, while gay, could not engage in a relationship with the player character.
Nor could Cass, Veroinica, Boone, or any other companion. Sawyer said he felt that romance would undermine the game in some way, so they scrapped all plans for companion romances.
>>340549585
>>340550651
Classes were pointless. However, the removal of attributes and birth signs was really shitty.
>>340568413
And Bethesda RPGs aren't even in the same hemisphere of that point.
>>340568960
Yeah, attributes at least should come back. Not just for a bit more complexity, but because they could maybe be used for dialogue checks.
>>340569609
I am of the opinion that dialogue checks are fucking garbage.
Does the combat automatically resolve itself if you have a high skill in Guns? nope.
Can you automatically win any of the harder boss battles long as you've maxed out speech? Yep, and its retardedly easy to do!
Would be way better to actually have to think about the conversation and choose the right logical path to convince someone. Not SPEECH 80/50 - "I win"
>>340569609
>dialogue checks.
>implying TES VII won't just have the exact same dialog system as Fallout 4
Either a male and female VA for each race, or they'll restrict you to human races.
>>340570078
>Either a male and female VA for each race, or they'll restrict you to human races.
Extremely unlikely
>>340523179
I'm honestly not surprised at their shilling the Xbox. It was the first console at the time to just be packing straight-up PC hardware and use Direct X.
As in, they didn't have to do a fuckton of extra work to port it, since the fucking thing was just a PC and they're all the same, so once it's optimized for one Xbox, it's optimized for all of them.
>>340569930
I would be better if speech option were more dependent on the players actions and reputation and not on a stat that you can raise by doing trivial bullshit.
>>340569930
But then you lose the character-building aspect. A character with substandard intelligence/perception/charisma shouldn't be able to persuade someone just because the player knows which options are correct.
>>340570998
No you wouldn't. Your character knows which options are correct. Character-building shouldn't be limited to stats, but dependent on your interaction with NPCs, reputation, information you gather...
>>340570998
and I shouldn't be able to win a gunfight because I (the player) am skilled at FPS games while my character is a nerdy scientist with no combat skills.
Yet I do, all the time.
You either go full RPG and have it decided by dice or make it player-based. I don't think a fusion really works.
>>340571789
But how does that work for non-combat stuff? Should literally every character be able to hack every computer and pick every lock if the player can do the minigame properly? Should you just be able to craft everything at the start of the game?
>>340552367
I'd rather a handsome. human man.
Such as Frank.
>>340570163
After FO4, I wouldn't be surprised by anything.
>>340524537
http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/23746/?
>>340574032
Brilliant.
>>340571789
It can work.
Deus Ex had a brilliant mechanic where your weapon skills determined how long you had to aim at an enemy for your character to aim at them. With a high weapon skill, it was 1 to 1 and played like a normal shooter. But with low skill you had to keep your crosshair centered on an enemy for a few seconds or you'd mostly likely miss.
But people hate good things so we never saw this type of mechanics refined.
>>340568793
>Sawyer said he felt that romance would undermine the game in some way
That's kind of an odd attitude to have.
>>340525695
>perfect
MW is my favorite RPG and even I admit its FAR from 10/10. Vanilla MW probably has the most amount of exploits and bugs of any game I've played
>>340560852
Well yeah it's outdated. The game came out in 2002, nobody is really arguing against that. But once again, posts like yours prove that there is a different audience for games like these. If you took, I don't know, maybe 5 minutes in the tutorial to read about the different races, birth signs, and attributes, and how they all play into skills and leveling, you wouldn't have that problem...like 90% of the people that played it.
It's always skyrim fanboys and retards like you that complain about this stuff, when it's very, very easy to get around.
