>forced to lose 50% of your matches
Who would ever think that this is a good system?
>>340514994
Losing 50% of the time isn't a bad thing - a good matchmaker will put equally skills teams against each other. What is bad is how the matchmaker puts literal retards on your team to force you to lose half the time. People that don't counter-pick, windowmakers that can't snipe for shit, reinhards that charge into bastions from the other side of the map and die half way there, etc. Most of the time you lose it's because you have at least one of these retards on your team.
>dominate a few games in a row
>get kicked out because "not enough players"
>placed with a bunch of retards vs a pre made/lvl 100's
>every fucking time
Le pure coincidence
If you play better it wouldn't matter.
>>340515631
Shut the FUCK UP
currently sitting at a 57.7% winrate. how long do i have to live /v/?
Am I the only one that thinks Tracer is too stronk.
Her mobility is unrivaled. A good Tracer is such a pain in the ass to get off your fucking back.
>>340515973
That's the point
>>340514994
It probably made sense from their perspective when making the MMR algorithm but Blizzard badly underestimated how huge a detriment one bad player is to everyone else's performance.
Right now it sees a team of 5 with a high MMR vs a team of 6 with an average MMR and places a low MMR teammate on the one side to try to "even it out" and it ends up overcompensating
>can't handle losing
You betas are the worst, laughably retarded.
>>340515973
You pretty much described every glass cannon character.
>>340514994
Do you understand how math works?
On average everyone loses 50% of their matches
>>340515973
Nah, she's alright I think
McCree and Torbjorn's stupid sentry bullshit is OP
>>340514994
>falling for the Blizzard meme
>>340514994
>forced to lose
>change to winston
>single handedly change the tide
>Defy the fate
do you even choosen one?
>>340516592
>anime image
Yeah not reading shit
>>340515897
54% here. A slightly above 50% rate means you improve with every game and MMR is lagging behind in matching you against harder opponents.
That being said, all the games I play today were garbage.
>need a healer, guy picks Zenyatta, proceeds to spend 75% of the game dead and waiting for respawn
>defending A at King's Row, someone picks Winston, proceeds to be utterly useless because attackers have no back-row to harass as they are literally right in front of their spawn
>attacking Hollywood, Soldier 76 activates his ult and runs in front of my shield, promptly gets sniped
>there are people on /v/ who take overwatch as serious competition
It's as casual as shooters get you fools. Enjoy it for what it is.
>>340516510
Torbjörn's turrets are a joke. They are only useful if your team is stuffed with retards who don't focus them or kill them with splash damage.
I want to bite into my keyboard every time I stand there as Reinhardt with my shield up, soaking shot after shot from a turret right in front of us and my brain-dead teammates take pot-shots at the enemy Roadhog in the distance.
>>340514994
>balance is bad
ranked will be out soon, maybe we will get rid off some of these crybabies
I played the beta, I sort of enjoyed it. I got a little bored of the repetition of it all, and most other players weren't exactly synergizing well as a team.
Just moved apartment, and I'm low on cash. Is it even worth it to buy this game?
>Numbani
>defend
>everyone playing ranged (bastion, torb, widow, mercy)
>also one retarded genji
>me playing roadhog
>attack team manages to put the payload just a few meter away from the point
>actually manage to hold them off and bring the timer from 7 minutes to overtime
>return the payload almost to the previous checkpoint
>die
>no one bothers on getting to the payload because they're too busy trying to kill from distance
>lose while respawning
I fucking hate these people
>>340516708
same here
>>340517057
>people who abandon the payload
STAY ON THE FUCKING PAYLOAD!
FIGHT ON THE PAYLOAD!
TAKE COVER BEHIND THE PAYLOAD!
RUN AROUND THE PAYLOAD TO JUKE SHORT-RANGE ENEMIES!
CROUCH BEHIND THE PAYLOAD TO EVADE SNIPERS!
JUST STAY ON THE FUCKING PAYLOAD FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
>close to over-time, defending
>people run away from the payload right outside our spawn because they're afraid they might die
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>>340515631
Not really, the matchmaking is made in a way in which you'll get an absolute shit-tier team if you win a lot . The only way to cheat it is going full premade with friends.
>>340517419
Every
fucking
time
Shit's already on overtime and these fuckers can't even try to reset the timer. Or even worse, people who keep chasing enemies instead of staying on the point
>>340515897
Just about everyone is somewhere between 50 and 60%
>>340517861
>Or even worse, people who keep chasing enemies instead of staying on the point
I think this is due to the play of the game feature. Everyone wants to be a fucking hero.
>>340514994
>play a "competetive" game
>get matched against people on your skilllevel
>complain about having to play against people that are on your skilllevel
?
>>340515485
works as intended :^^^^^^^^)
>>340515897
>tfw dropped from 56% in 2 days to 54% after the stealth patches
>join match
>as soon as you join
>YOU LOSE
>counts as a loss on your account
>Blizzard said they did this to be fair
enjoy le lobby based matchmaking meme
why did server browsers have to die out
win % doesnt even matter. going 30+ and 0 with widowmaker is the only measure of skill.
>>340518195
This desu senpai
>>340516791
>enjoy losing
retard.
>>340515897
try going over 60% champ
>>340518145
This happened to me three times in a row in one night
>Join game
>"Defeat" before I can pick my character
>reinstance
3 times in a row
>>340517959
I honestly expect Blizzard to remove the POTG on ranked matches, this shit rewards solo plays instead of team cooperation
>>340517616
How do people know this? Are you guys pulling it out your asses?
>>340516791
>It's as casual as shooters get you fools. Enjoy it for what it is.
You are arguably the worst kind of player. That one faggot who scoffs at competition and decrying casual fun as being a paragon of virtue or some shit. Listen pal, if you buy a video-game with your own money, and if it has a vs. multiplayer of any kind, then why the fuck would you not want to win?
Are you implying that you voluntarily lose? Or that you don't much care to get better? If it's the latter, then you're the one who is missing out. By taking the learning curves seriously, you actually get a fuller experience of the game and it's mechanics.
But you, faggot, any game you purchase will be wasted on you. If you're a casual fuck then at least adopt a casual approach to the discussion, that is to say, if you're so 'laaaiiidbaack' then why did you take the fucking time to assert your retarded opinion?
>>340518142
>tfw was steady 53% but already dropped to 51% in three days
>>340514994
Just like hearthstone
>>340518479
You would know if you played the game.
>>340518623
You sound like an autistic faggot.
>play 100 games as Lucio
>69% win rate
>tfw been at 58-61% forever
Bow before your god
>>340518818
normie leave
>>340516510
Torbjorn is not only garbage but his turret is the worst part about him. Not enough crowd control and no knockback. He's far more effective just using his pistol and throwing out armor.
>>340514994
>Tfw you're on the winning end of the shitty matchmaking
Had a game on Dorado defend the other day where the other team literally didn't get 5ft out of their spawn room. I have no doubt the matchmaking bundled a load of mouthbreathers together though.
>>340518859
>thinks he is hot shit for 58-61% when playing in full stacks
wew
>>340514994
>le forced 50 meme :D
Does this mean all of you faggots are moving to Overwatch and fucking off my HotS? I sure hope so
>>340514994
>when your housemate strts up his Microsoft Windows 10 network hog machine with all NSA approved spyware enabled and lets it idlle on a datamining clickbait site with 32 flash ads and you have 1500ms ping for matches but he won't let you teach him how to not fuck your internet up so you remote into his Alienware laptop and ruin everything you can touch and he thinks it's a porn virus that his Norton Antivirus Security System missed
>>340514994
When I play with friends we almost always win. When I solo Que I lose every single game every time.
So I just only play with my friends. It's gotten to the point where every single game is a RL 6v6 game and it's always intense and fun.
Wish I could play someone other than Lucio, but our team is pretty tight.
>>340517419
The amount of times I've spider-man zipped to the payload as Widow to force overtime and proceed to juke around until the cavalry arrives is insane. And then I die, and somehow, we lose, because the rejects are shooting from afar.
>>340518986
>not popping up a lvl1 turret so that you can distract enemies for it and it can distract enemies for you
gee was TF2 too complicated for you so you chose Overwatch?
>>340518479
Not the same anon, but I think it's not entirely true but also not entirely false.
Matchmaking will usually try to balance the teams moving good players between them. Even if you keep a good rate of wins, the matchmaking will put you into a team that's losing because 1- someone quit the game, 2- the matchmaking thinks you can make a difference. Matches that haven't started yet are more or less like that, if you win at least two times with the exact same team, there's a chance the matchmaking will kick you or put you into another team.
It's funny how the game actually rewards you for being bad. Though Blizzard will never confirm any of this, just like they won't confirm there is a pity timer for legendaries.
nice meme you got there senpai, maybe you should improve your skills so you don't lose so much.
;)
All online games need completely random matchmaking. Trying to balance the skill levels of teams is cancer.
>>340519029
I was on the receiving end of a similar game, same map. I was forced to flank as Widow and take out a Lucio, and then 3 teammates railed me at that festival circle. Assumed that distraction would let them push. Nope. Genji was still lobbing shurikens that kept people at the spawn. Ridiculous.
>>340519169
if its true you're doing gods work
I hate the inept who are above getting help
>>340518337
Can't they just come up with a mechanic that prevents you from getting a win/lose if you havn't played more than 1 minute?
>>340519209
TF2 sentry shits all over Torbjorns.
>15 seconds left
>"C'mon guys, we can do this!"
>Do the best play of the game, everyone gets into the point, starts conquering
>Entire enemy team ults
>DEFEAT
Every time. What's the point of ults, even?
>>340519719
They are cool and flashy :^)
>>340516008
>>340516374
Yeah believe it or not I understand her concept. I just think that she is stronger than she should be, her teleports have such an insignificant cooldown that she can just spam them, it's fucking ridiculous.
>>340516791
Go back to TF2 and spycrab/friendly heavy/conga.
>>340519719
Exactly as you just described. Turn the tide.
HOW DO THEY DO IT?
That's literally every MP game that wants to be retarded e-sport nowadays. This and terrible netcode in shooters are two sole reasons why I slowly but surely move towards sp games. Can't stand this shit anymore, WoW ruined me and turned me into this online interactions seeking whore.
>>340519719
Shame on your for not having a Mercy or Zenyatta on your team
>>340519921
6-man premades, and given Megaton's hours to games played, he DC's before losing.
>>340516592
this
people saw anime tiddies and waifus. now they see what the rest of us saw. blizzard makesshit games
>>340519921
Premade groups
>>340519921
if you exit out of the game before a certain point when you lose it won't count towards your profile
>>340519921
Forced 50% loss is only a thing if you solo queue
>>340519921
Entirely done with pre-made groups, I'd imagine.
I have sat around 60% for a good while, now. I only typically party up with one friend, too.
It's not that I don't believe in the forced 50 thing. I'm just saying that regardless of matchups if you play hard enough you can usually beat teams you're 'supposed to lose against.'
>>340515973
Tracer is retarded in koth. First of all she's really good at harassing the backlines but you can also resume the overtime for an eternity by just jumping in and out of the area. Also, if you don't have a lucio in koth you just autolose, especially if the enemy has one. I just disconnect in the loading screen every time I get a koth map.
I hope blizz will let players choose what map and game modes they want to play, that would save everyone's time. It's kind of good to have random maps in the beginning so you get to know them all but in a few weeks you'll have your favorites and dislikes.
>>340520007
does it not count if you DC?
>>340514994
>First week I had 90% win rate
>Now it's 20% because of deep shitter teammates
I'm always MVP/Lucio too.
>>340520114
>>340519921
this but thats how its always been for competitive games
people that make teams beat pubs.
ranking is designed for pubs.
>>340520280
Learn to play better then.
>>340520294
nope only in shit tier system normally teams are forced to play against teams here you play against teams vs randoms.
>>340515973
I main Tracer on KotH maps and go out of my way to 1v1 Roadhogs, you can see them getting physically upset when I'm right in their face and they can't land a single shot on me
And they said the Competitive matchmaking will be the same as Quick Match
No Competitive for me
>>340514994
>playing mercy
>juking and healing
>damage boosting ults
>even fucking reviving my whole team
>other team somehow still wins when they dont even have a support
i don't even have words for some of these matches also
>i get focused on sight never any backup
>enemy mercy free to roam around as she pleases
ITS FUCKING TRUE!!!!!!!!!
>>340520371
And here's the triggered /pol/tard to shit up another thread about video games
>>340520007
>>340520037
>>340520046
>>340520070
>>340520114
>>340520294
I only play with 3-6 people and my win rate is only 57% do i just need to git gud.
>>340520235
Oh hey. I'm at 63% now!
>>340520681
Should probably kick the slackers from your team.
>>340520673
>stop talking about video games on /v/ because I'm an absolute manchild who can't stand people liking games that I don't
>about 220 games played
>only play with my friends, in a group of 3 to 6 depending on who's online
>my WR: 47.5%
>their WRs: 36%, 39%, 48%, 49%, 49%
why can't we win /v/?
>>340520746
proof
>>340514994
>playing autowatch
>>340514994
git gud
>>340516791
Man if overwatch is casual to you, then I can't imagine how casual other games are. Is counter strike like babies ducking their thumbs?
>>340521243
>150k
So you've played like 20 games?
>>340521350
i'll be ducking your mom tonight ditch
>>340520904
>36%, 39%
That might be the reason
>>340517048
If you never liked any multiplayer game ever because you got bored of doing the same maps over and over, then this game isn't for you.
Probably today or tomorrow i'll go 50% or lower.. i mean when you lose games the ratio will only decrease, there's no way to improve it.
>>340521350
If he's a reflex or surf player probably
>>340521356
106. It's just something the gf and I do after we get off work to mellow out. I'm not a huge fan of the game. It's fun but I hate a lot of things in it.
Fucking her, cooking, or playing Warhammer is more fun to me if I have the free time. lol
>>340516439
>On average
>Everyone
That's not how those words work.
Just git gid bro
Overwatch is not a team based game in the slightest, a truly SKILLED gaymurr such as myself can always win a 1v6 :^)
>>340521350
>overwatch isn't casual
Let's not kid ourselves,Blizzard.
>>340519719
Ult-dumps are just stupid as shit in pubs cause they work 80% of the time unless your Mercy/Lucio/Zenyatta have their's up to counter some of the damage.
yesterday i logged in a server and my team had 3 bastions and there was like 1 minute to lose, this happened 4 times in a row yesterday, all servers i logged in losing teams in the end of the match
>>340520843
There are shitloads of threads already, you can pick one instead of starting another, retard.
>>340521882
It isnt as if people don't pull 1v4 s in other fps games.
>>340515418
>windowmakers
Daily reminder that if you're sub 70%, you shouldn't even be playing the game.
>>340522331
>26 games
>>340521914
Any game is casual if you think hard enough about it, it's just some arbitrary reasoning used to shitpost about games when you have no actual argument. Also you're out of your mind if you think in any universe CS is more casual than OW, or casual period.
>>340522378
Shouldn't that mean that he should be worse than you people who have 500+ games?
>game launches
>play a ton
>have something like a 75% win rate over 200 matches
>now it's just loss after loss as my rate steadily climbs down to 50
Thanks Blizz
>>340522331
>1.55 K/D
>26 games
>>340522378
It was at 70% 6 games ago. It just keeps going up.
>>340522331
Reminder that if you're sub 200 games you shouldn't be posting your w/l ratio
>>340522239
>encouraging generals
Just deal with it. The fad will be over in a few months and youll have a new flavour getting 8 threads at once. A fucking step up from undertale threads at least.
>>340522239
>so upset about people discussing video games he's actively participating in the threads just to cry
Holy fucking autism
I've played 180 matches and won 103 of them,
>>340518054
>>340519201
Dumb frogposters
>>340522479
>implying K/D matters on Rein
>implying K/D matters at all
>>>/widowmaker/
>>340514994
>he's unable to carry his team by himself
you were never as good as you thought you were.
git gud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqG4CHnQDQg
>>340518479
If you look at the highest winrates on masteroverwatch, a third-party player statistics website, you can see several of the top players and recognize them from streams. Typically in these streams you can tell it's the same parties with a few different people, and the font color of player tags for those in your party are green, as represented in the streams.
>>340522510
The real issue with Undertale was the anti-Undertale shitposting brigade, they found something on tumblr to get triggered about, came back here and made 50 threads shitposting about the game every hour
>>340522684
I'm just guessing you die quite a lot for a Reinhardt.
Also
>26 games
>>340517616
>The only way to cheat it is going full premade with friends.
But the system then just pits you against another premade. Even then it can still be one-sided if the enemy premade's got a higher MMR.
>it's a you lost 5 matches in a row so now we give you a complete onesided stomp in return episode
I feel dirty
>>340514994
>>340515973
Is it just me or are overwatch babies experiencing shit like this for the first time when its been prevalent in tf2/csgo/dota for years?
Is this your first competitive game or something you stupid fucks?
>>340522510
I don't think there is anything wrong with 3-4 threads at once for the flavour of the month, far from it. But when you see 10+ threads up every single day, some with barely 20 or 30 replies, it kind of gets old.
Use the catalog and find threads already filled with posters instead of looking for easy (You)'s.
>>340522516
Is kind of annoying, but I see nothing wrong with what I'm saying.
>>340515973
She definately needs some tweaks. Does way too much damage at range. She should have to get real close to do any significant damage, making her more vulnerable as well, but as it is she can stay reasonably safe at medium range and still pump out tremendous damage.
>51.2% winrate total
>70.4% winrate with Zen
>>340522994
They're probably underage or just autistic.
>>340516510
Is it console players saying this? I can understand it being hard to shoot at with a joystick, but on PC it's actually really easy to take them down.
>>340523246
Torbjorn's turrets are really annoying. I don't have my rig since I'm working abroad but I think I'll switch to PC when I come back. I like shooters on console but the fact you can't iron sight on most of the characters feels really different. It seems more enjoyable with a mouse. The game is still damn addictive though
>have 80%+ with heroes I dont feel particularly good with
>have less than 25% winrate with heroes I feel confident with
What the fuck happened?
>koth in Ilios
>playing mercy while healing roadhog
>we caputre the point
>roadhog decides to go full tdm-mode and walks to the enemies spawn point
>leaving me alone as mercy
>after 10 seconds the enemy is already capturing the point
>we lose
I've been telling you to stop buying blizzard games for almost a decade now. And here you are lapping up their micro-transactions in a shameless TF2 clone with a forced 50% win rate.
When are you idiots going to learn?
>>340514994
Xp only unlock useless skin and voicelines, literally who give a flying fuck?
Do you play for the game itself or for fucking cosmetic shit that no one care about /v/?
>Quick game with all randoms
>One guy picks Reaper
>All the rest pick Mercy
We lost that match but fuck it was hilarious resurrecting several times in a row.
>>340524019
Do they have plans for new skins though ? I feel the legendary are a bit lackluster. I wouldn't mind simpler, more thematic skins with more variety
>>340522994
The same arguments are in all competitive games retard. Why those get a pass?
Fucking summer.
>>340517419
Abandon your hope dude. Fighting on the spot is impossible for average players since ever. If people couldnt learn this for 12 years in WoW battlegrounds, they won't here. Just accept its on you to be on the payload. Everyone else doesnt give a fuck. Kills are more important to them you know. Even if there is no ranking apart from medals.
>payload map on attack
>take reinhardt, because nobody else will
rest of team
>hanzo
>genji
>widowmaker
>hanzo
bastion right outside of spawn, 2 hanzos behind me won't kill him, he breaks my shield we all die
>>340524019
Are you retarded? If you play only for the game itself then why would you want any unlocks at all?
>>340524605
>payload map on attack
>ennemy team has 2 bastions and 2 toblerones
Still managed a beautiful flanking attack with Zarya and destroyed both bastions and turrets but holy shit it was no fun
Do you have PROOFS of this systems?
>That faggot who ALWAYS plays Hanzo no matter what
RRREEEE
WE LOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE A SHITTER NOT PLAYING A DECENT DEFENSIVE HERO
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
>>340520567
Fellow mercybro.
I know that feel.
I love playing Mercy but she's so fucking pathetic without any kind of support. I honestly wish her staff or pea-shooter did more damage, or that she could zip to places that AREN'T allies.
Because I actually really like playing her, but without a cognizant team, she's dead. It's suffering
>>340514994
>>340515418
>>340519201
That fucking pics. Literally dying over here
>>340524940
If you want to disprove people then show prove on how 50% force winrate isnt a thing.
>>340518145
>counts as defeat
>gives 0 xp
Literally just the ultimate fuck you, smeared hard in your face.
>finish game
>quit before getting exp
>lv1 forever
>can get into matches quickly instead of the forced 50%
>>340523656
I have about a 60% win rate with Reinhardt but I am in no way that good with him.I'm probably a 30-40% at best. It's from playing on decent teams during the few times I did use him.
Bastion needs a small buff.
>>340525468
That doesn't work, you get XP and level up the moment the game finishes. You can quit and open a new loot box while PotG still plays.
>Volskaya industries as attacker
play weekly brawl with random heroes on
a much more fun expirience and win a lot more games
this should be always on
>you can't choose what map and game mode you want to play
I just thought that was an open beta thing. Do characters still have infinite ammo?
>>340515485
I don't think it needs to kick you to shuffle you into a better/worse arrangement.
>tfw you're shit with everyone
It's a fun game, I just wish I was better
>>340525585
>small
He needs a massive buff, he's useless. The damn character gets a buff almost every single patch and he's still the worst character in the game. Bring back his shield, do fucking something.
>>340518623
I think this post really sums up /v/.
Autistic enough to write something like that, yet still casual enough to actually be playing shit like Overwatch
>>340525925
Yes
>forced to win 50% of your matches
>>340523081
She barely has any damage at range.
>>340514994
>Who would ever think that this is a good system?
Blizzard, since valve also makes use of it and they decided to rip off everything valve did.
>>340526145
For whatever reason, this post right here made me grin ear to ear and fill my heart with warmth.
Thanks Anon. You didn't mean to, and you couldn't have known it, but this made my day so much better. Not dreading to head into work so much now.
>>340514994
>>340524519
And what magical MMR based matchmaking system do you propose that doesn't eventually even out at 50%?
>>340518175
It's a huge pain in the ass to round up exactly 12 people for a custom. This game is non-functional without exactly 12 people. Gameplay-to-idle time would be significantly longer without automatic matchmaking filling in that 12th slot, or having friends stuck observing as 13th.
Given Overwatch's only game mode is their tightly controlled objective modes, server browser and automatic matchmaking function similarly anyways - unless the game is relatively even, one side will stomp, the other side will leave, and y'all will have to wait for it to refill and stomp again or find another server.
I think people are rose-tinting server browsers here. It's not like Overwatch has a meatgrinder 2fort/DM/Battlefield/etc style mode where games last a long time and it's perfectly functional with players hopping in and out mid game where selecting and sticking with a server or community would actually be beneficial. There's no point to server browsers with Overwatch's single short duration objective focused gameplay type.
>>340517946
That's not how statistics work.
>join 4chan group in Overwatch
>lose spectacularly every game cause no communication (I'm the only one talking on mic)
The forced 50% is probably helping all you shutters.
>>340526006
>mfw I start to get a hang of Zarya and stay charged at 60% in average during a game and only die once
>>340525802
this is why I just quit after victory/defeat text pops up to skip all the pog and card shit because it doesnt count as a leave then
post em
>when your team picks two genjis and you know youre about to lose
>>340526048
He loses engagements to over half the cast (half of those hard counter him), he HAS to be stationary to do any damage, slow as sin and a huge target.
Literally the only thing he has going for him is DPS against tanks, but regardless other chars can do what he does and more.
>defense
>my whole team pick offensive
>still funny to play this game even raging af
>>340525585
why did they remove the frontal shield mechanic from bastion in the first place?
>giving a shit about stats and not just playing the game
I know you all need to compensate for your tiny dicks, but you probably shouldn't do it with a video game.
>>340526641
t. casual shitter
>>340515418
Jesus Christ. This.
>Play Mercy
>Heal for ~11.5k
>7 rez
>Lose badly because lol defense Tracer
>Our widow only ults one time
>Mfw
>>340514994
Why are you overwatch kuks so bad at games? You aren't forced to lose you just suck.
>Guy autistically rages when I don't pick Lucio
Fuck you, I don't care if we win, I'm going to play Zen and have fun with him instead of a boring ass "stand in the middle" shit.
>>340526598
Bastion is a noob crusher, its turret does insane damage and if you're a slow character you can get fucked in less than a second
>>340526541
>2 Tracers
>2 Soldiers
>>340516439
yeah no, when I played LoL I used to have 70% winrate and so does every pro player
>it's a "the rest of your team pick hanzos and widowmakers" episode
help
>>340526726
lucio's pretty fun when you get the hang of consistently remaining on walls like fucking spiderman with his passive
the worst part about lucio is his character. i wish they'd just gone with making him a bastion-like omnic. jesus christ i am sick of hearing everything he says, and he says shit every second
>Gud at games
>90% win rate from levels 1 to 8
>Now I'm fighting level 50s while on a team of 10-20s
>Slowly dropped to low 60%
And the ride's still not over.
I've been losing my motivation to play. I can't carry that many people that many times.
>>340526782
>Out LoLing LoL in the casual rubberbanding
You know Blizzard fucked up
>>340526093
>any pvp game
>casual
>>340526641
>f-f-f-fun I PLAY FOR FUN
literally the most reddit shit here if you play games for fun leave this place we don't like your kind here.
>>340527043
its even more casual than lol or TF2
>hop in and play
>win
>hop out and re-queue
I almost never stay with a team after a win unless there's one or two people that literally carried everyone hard. Staying with a team after the switch to attack/defend is usually asking for loss in my experience
>>340526541
Play D.Va and follow them around. Get your other three to make a solid wall and flank with the idiots.
Ya'know, if the do flank and not wander into melee range in a straight line.
wew
>>340518623
I sympathize for this demand.
It just will never be a 100% reality, however.
That's why I stopped playing the few competitive games that I played.
>>340526541
>two genjis
>Hanzo
>D.Va
>one Genji switches to Widowmaker
>>340524519
No, al those points have been discussed to death.
Forced 50% is a myth, it's an accurate representation of how well you can influence your team to win.
Tracer being "OP" in the hands of a skilled player is just how her class is balanced, scout has he same nature in TF2 but you learn how to get good to either play around, anticipate, or counter her.
Overwatch is such a copy and pasted game that even the comments in this thread feel like literal clones.
>>340526506
Where do you get that from?
>>340525585
>Use Mercy's pull to a Roadhog waiting on the other side of Hanamura Point B's entrance
>Bastion proceeds to destroy me in less than a second from a hundred yards away
He's fucking fine, don't touch him.
>playing with two of my friends
>opposing team has two reinhardts and two d.va's
>they easily fuck our shit up for two games in a row
>me, my friends, and one of the other team members pick reinhardt
>opposing team just runs away from us
>beat them 3 games in a row
it was fucking glorious
>>340518479
Literally got paired with a level 2 and a level 10 against level 80s and a level 104.
>>340527662
>88 games
Do you even play games?
>Dominate 3 games in a row.
>Get placed on a team with 2 Hanzo's on attack.
thanks blizzard.
>Mei and Winston's primary can hit through Reinhardts shield
>>340527472
masterofoverwatch
>>340527710
I only play 4-5 games a day...And no I play no other games
>fucking around on one of the high ledges in dorado as mccree
>turn around
>enemy widow right behind me trying to take her sweet time to headshot me
>pop her once in the head and she dies
Goddamn I wish I had recorded that, couldn't stop laughing.
>>340527867
fucking normie
>>340527757
>Mei
No it can't. Only Winston's primary, Symmetra's secondary and Rein's Firestrike go through shields.
>>340514994
>>340517616
>people ACTUALLY believe that the game is policing 50% winrate
50% winrate is average.
Literally.
Exactly average.
For every person like pic related, there's probably someone with a 40% winrate. This is how winrates work. This is how games with half decent matchmaking have always worked. There will be outliers, but most people will be around 50%
>>340527470
>Forced 50% is a myth
It is and it isn't.
There's no system that's actually forcing players to lose games, but the matchmaker does try to pit you against players of similar skill. In a hypothetical game where both teams have identically skilled players, neither team would have a skill-based advantage so the chance of either one winning would be 50% (at the start of the match anyway, before gameplay decisions start to influence the outcome).
It's not a perfect system and you're still going to get gregors and shitters here and there, but if the matchmaking is doing its job properly you'll naturally gravitate toward 50% win rate because it's mostly matching you with similarly skilled people.
>/v/ doesnt have friends
>>340528126
>only 60% when you still play with full stacks
holy shit you SUCK
>>340528208
If a game is "((only)) fun with friends" it's not a good game.
>>340528126
>>340528126
how about you include number of games as well, buddy.
only players with hundreds of games and a winrate above 60% are pro players who only play premades.
Its the 'treadmill' system in action, many games do this to keep player retention high, see DOTA, LoL, etc.
>player is doing well
>system starts putting player in lobbies where they are more or less guaranteed to be on the losing team
>it does this until players winrate/ranking falls to a predetermined level, with some variance to mask the deliberate nature of said odd stacking
>returns to normal matchmaking algo
>result is that player does well, then gets dumped into a very hard to break losing streak, then starts doing well again
>creates the illusion of getting better, while also pushing the player to play more games because 'the next one might break my losing streak/get me out of low rank hell'
Chasinf the end to the forced lose streak is the 'carrot on a stick'
>>340528247
>muh stacks
>playing with friends automatically makes you better at the game
lmao
>>340526782
so how come you arent a pro?
>>340528247
>y-you just play with full stacks
>th-that's why you have more wins than me
>yeah that could be the only reason
holy shit that's argument is patheticalmost as pathetic as the fact that I don't have enough friends to even make up half a team
>forced
Yeah nah
>>340514994
>caring about w/l ratio in a casual game
>Every single game
>Defence holds first objective for a minute
>Attackers die and counterpick
>Attack steamrolls the rest of the game
I wish there were more parallel modes, I want ctf, payload race and 5cp maps
>>340516325
Uh Uh I'm not a good loser.
forced 50 is real hehe xd
>>340528387
>only players with hundreds of games and a winrate above 60% are pro players who only play premades.
or people who actually play fps games. i play solo at least 60% of the time. all the people whining about forced 50 are people who dont play fps games, i bet the majority of the people in here came from mobas and other blizzard games and whine when they suck dick at an incredibly easy shooter. ive played cs for 10 years, quake and UT for almost as long, halo 2 and 3 competitively at MLG events, and CoD mw2-blops3 for money. people that are good at shooters will find this game a fucking breeze
>>340528550
because that's not my career choice you retard
>>340521350
>CS is more casual than overwatch
I really hope no one actually believes this.
>>340528689
>tfw successfully defending somewhere that isn't one of the couple of chokepoints where successful defenses normally happen
>>340526332
>And what magical MMR based matchmaking system do you propose that doesn't eventually even out at 50%?
none
its unranked
>>340526689
>Play Mercy on Hanamura
>Only person who manages to push to the first point with me is Hanzo, what an ideal pair
>Roadhog, 76, and Junkrat are continually killed by Tracer
>Even when they're grouped up
>No one goes Reinhardt
Blizzard Matchmaking
Your team skill
70 - you
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
= 100
Enemy team
20 - enemy
20 - enemy
10 - enemy
10 - enemy
20 - enemy
20 - enemy
= 100
100 vs 100
Alright, now the match is balanced fellas! Enjoy!
>>340516691
Did this yesterday. Was Mercy like I usually play. Team keeps running straight into the enemy in front of our reins shield. Go 76 push in so hard the enemy team had to change characters. Pots Zen shooting a ball and ulting.
>>340525305
>tfw I made the D.Va one
Hopefully more get made for the other characters.
>>340528773
You are right. However things could be improved in CS
>>340528773
Overwatch has way more depth than CS due to the choice of what character to play.
>>340528773
It's true.
>>340528387
59.7% is an odd enough number that it has to be at least a few dozen
>>340528963
Also TF2 autobalance
>Is the protagonist
>Noone plays her
>>340529065
at least on csgo you can host your own 120 tick server to mitigate this.
50% win rate meme is really shit but at least pooper peeving other people is pretty fun desu
>>340528894
>hanamura
>post made me immediately thinking about reinhardt
Sorry for your shit teams senpai
>>340529025
>>340529065
This is what I meant. The hit reg is garbage unless you play in unofficial 128 tick servers. This along with the first shot innacuracy of certain weapons needs to be fixed asap. They already fixed the hitboxes themselves though
>>340529029
Overwatch is filled with shitter-friendly heroes whose skill floor and ceiling are inches apart, as well as shitty "press Q to win" mechanics.
The game is fun, but it's casual as fuck.
>>340528894
Jesus.
I am basically stuck in a support role at all times because if I don't we get a mercy that heals for 3k and gets one rez. I love this game but fucking despise the players
>>340529239
Tickrate doesn't affect RNG spread
>play healslut mercy
>defense in Numbani or whatever
>Reinhardt on my team charges enemy spawn the fucking second the doors open
>dies while I'm dmg boosting someone
>he rages in fucking chat the entire game at me
>>340528745
>i play solo at least 60% of the time
That leaves 40% of free wins and a guaranteed 30% loses.
>tfw bashing randoms with my pre-made stack
fuck the mmr in this game is dogshit but I fun raping randoms
>>340529065
i wish i had the hanzo headshotting widow around a corner webm to post
>>340529441
scout is accurate at that range, that was 64 tick issues
>>340529065
>>340529420
>>340529441
Shitty servers/spotty hit detection is different than the game design being casual. Clearly, Valve is shit at making games, but the actual mechanics are much less casual than overwatch.
>attacking
>mei
>widowmaker
>bastion
Everytime
>>340529441
That is not RNG spread, its a case of the hit registration being different between the client and the server. The player sees a hit however you wont see that on the replay
>it's another Hanzo on attack episode
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>340529559
or hitbox issues. CSGO has more than its fair share of those
is it just me or does anyone else seem to get absolutely kerbstomped for 3-4 games in a row every time they play due to teammates that have zero ability to play the game?
I'm not talking about having 2-3 snipers that are at least okay on defend and swap out when necessary, I'm talking about people picking weaker tank characters like winston and charging away from the point towards the enemy spawn ALONE, people picking rindheart and then never using the shield and charging to groups of enemies to solo, people picking widowmaker/hanzo on control maps only to never step on the point or do anything significant while they lie and claim they're top fragger, whole friendly teams deciding that because they have a mercy healing them that they're playing tf2 and have an uber and can charge into the front lines with zero regard for their mercy only to complain about no healing when their mercy gets flanked by non-mobility characters like mcree, etc
it really does seem like it happens every time I play, and I'm sometimes on the winning team in these cases, but when a large majority of the games are over within 3-5 minutes leaving a tiny minority of games that manage to last more than 10 minutes it makes playing for more than an hour or two more of a chore than a nice gameplay experience
This is why dedicated servers that you can join are better.
As you get better, you will start to win more games, because the players who join are random, and thus the teams will have average skill level.
The only way to enjoy the feeling of getting better in a game with matchmaking is if you periodically tank your rating on purpose.
>>340529663
You've reached the point. Congratulations
>>340529559
Counterstrike weapons work off hitscan, which is done clientside. If the players client saw that as a "hit" it would have been sent to the server as a hit, no matter what the tickrate was.
You don't know what you're talking about, you're just jumping on the latest buzzword.
>>340529690
Offensive widow is spectacular on a lot of maps provided it's not a shitter
>it's always a shitter
Ladder/rating based matchmaking for random teams is absolutely braindead retarded and brings out the most cancerous behaviour in people.
It was only meant to be used for either 1v1, or semi-permanent teams. Why can't developers understand something this simple?
>>340529780
Winston and Dva aren't tanks.
If you see someone pick Winston or Dva as the tank, don't think "we have a tank, now I can play as someone else" just because the little "No tanks" indicator disappears. You still don't have a tank.
>>340529760
>it's another hanzo plucking his string around corners for PotG
>>340529226
If Tracer was the protagonist, you would play as her in the tutorial. Soldier-76 is the protagonist.
>only my team has retards, if I kill someone it's pure skill
where have I seen this before
>>340515973
If you put it from the Attack heroes' perspective she is quite OP.
For Flanking, Reaper has to be in your face with an invincibility that can be followed, McCree has to walk all the way there and is useless on CD, Genji has shit damage and mobility compared to Tracer.
They should really buff the other three. Tracer is just the superior choice if one can play the three at maximum potential.
>>340529526
https://youtu.be/_UU8jqxAiHQ?t=2m6s
>>340530151
You play Soldier-76 in the tutorial because his gameplay what 99% of the people who would need a tutorial expect from a shooter.
>tfw you're reinhardting while the enemy team's gregor genji is assravaging your helpless team from behind and you swat him away with a firestrike that you never thought would hit
>>340526506
Bretty gud.
>>340514994
>>340515418
>playing Overwatch
>>340529931
It doesn't work this way though. There is a cheat that lets you see the bullet hitboxes when you impact something. These hit boxes are composed of two colors. Red marks where the shot landed im the client while blue marks where the shot landed according to the server. The blue one is the one that counts as a hot and is calculated on the server
>>340530448
>The blue one is the one that counts as a hot and is calculated on the server
if that's how it worked then the red one wouldn't exist at all
>>340514994
>Losing as Tracer
You might as well give up on the game, you're simply too shit.
>playing mercy
>retarded reinhardt
>spins like a fucking windmill with shield up
>get sniped trying to keep glass cannon squishies from dying
>faggot dies a second after i do
>"no heals :)" in match chat
why even try
>>340516439
What about the people who are better than average?
>>340530541
I know its idiotic but this is the way it is made. Thats is the reason you can see a blood splatter when you shot someone yet you do 0 damage. In this case there was a red hit but the blue missed
>>340515418
>reinhards that charge into bastions from the other side of the map and die half way there
I do this sometimes. Sometimes you're stuck in a spot where you can't take cover, your shield is about to break, and the dipshits on your team aren't bothering to kill the Bastion with the time your shield is buying them. If your team isn't going to fight, might as well go down fighting instead.
>mfw i say "gg ez" even if we struggled to win
gets people so mad lol.
>>340514994
>you know what's the only constant in all of the games?
>YOU!
>ever thought that maybe YOU are the problem? ;^)
no seriously, fuck the people who say that.
In most of the matches I feel cheated by MM I get 3-5 medals, mostly gold.
>>340529931
This is not true at all
>>340530812
>mfw I report you because reporting's free and I can get you silenced/banned for a day or two
Get that ass banned you edgy loser.
>>340530072
>Winston and Dva aren't tanks.
oh don't get me wrong I know winston isn't a tank which is why I referred to him as a 'weaker' tank, it's just that it seems people pick him because he's under the tank class and they think they can charge the enemy (same with rindheart) solo without any supporting characters to heal them, never mind that charging the enemy on some control maps definitely isn't the way to win
>>340530967
>being a snitch
how mad can u be
>>340531302
G
T
A
B
E
L
>tfw some autist gets on the team mic and starts giving orders like he's some kinda low-chromosome commando
every time
>>340517057
>>340517419
sorry bb but I'm not about to be some easily killable sitting duck on a small area (point / payload)
need to take care of my k:d for the statistics sites you see
>>340530652
>Playing Mercy
>Pharah doesn't know where to go
>Spends 35 seconds trying to decide whether to go up some stairs inside the defense's building Hanamura or not
>>340522331
wow i can post my good character kda too
doesn't change the fact i have a 57% win rate
>matchmaking
I found your issue right here
>>340530169
were going to go through the same thing we all did with dota again arent we
>you are the only constant :)
>Game has already devolved into "Who has the best widow, and the most mccrees as filler?"
I'm so glad the most important thing to winning suicide to kill the sniper then avoiding corners/doorways until they're back up.
>Hollywood, playing road hog
>Im lvl 28 everyone else is over 40
>unlock payload
>rest of the team except for me runs off ignoring the payload
>I'm just standing on it alone eventually mercy comes too
>rest of team dies
>"we need a tank"
>"hey hog maybe stick with the team"
Am I missing something here? Is this some high level strategy.
>>340517419
My favorite thing to do is to be Lucio and just sit on the payload. Attack or defend. If you want heals, you're gonna help. Fuckers.
>>340515973
i think her weapon is too easy to use
just point in a general direction and spam
though that describes every character i guess
>>340530012
same for mei to a lesser extent but arguably there's still better heroes to pick
hell, in some situations a decent rindheart when you have the payload can be game winning
>>340530170
>McCree has to walk all the way there and is useless on CD
are you joking? mcree is a non-mobility character sure but a good mcree flanking will absolutely destroy an unprepared team
there's a reason why he's almost always at the top in competitive play
>>340530746
>Thats is the reason you can see a blood splatter when you shot someone yet you do 0 damage.
blood-splatter has been server side in cs:go for years unless you've found an undiscovered bug, quit talking out your arse
>>340530967
reports don't count for shit, I've been one of the most cancerous people in chat since I bought the game and have been compared to moba players (never played a moba, ayyy) but have yet to receive any penalty
>>340532251
level doesn't account for shit when it's purely a time played metric, I've seen some utterly useless level 60-70+'s that won't go on point at the end of the game to force overtime while our team respawns because "I would have died" resulting in a guaranteed loss
>>340531453
>communicating is autism
lol overwatch will never have a community
just a bunch of drop in drop out mouth breathers
fuck team games you all suck at video games
>>340529526
Found it
>playing Mercy when you have a Junkrat and Phara in the enemy team
why do you fucks even care about winrate in quick play?
>>340522331
>not even a 2:1 K/D
>26 games
nice try
>>340532220
>I don't know how to counter Widow
Found the shitter
>>340532956
This has nothing to do with hitboxes just like it doesn't in Overwatch. It's just meant to represent how inaccurate bows are.
>It's another "Everyone on defense is a Trob in each corner of the first area in King's Row" Episode.
>>340533121
Becuase losing constantly is not fun.
Because ranked isn't in the game yet and it's going to be the same exact shit.
>>340533347
The last 2 didn't even hit. I don't play TF2 but whether it's the hitbox or hurtbox that's messed up, that's dumb.
>>340533121
It's less about win rate and more about when you hit 60% you're forced to play with people who have legit brain problems. It's not fun.
>>340533347
>it doesn't mean anything anymore now that someone shows my previous Valve game has the same issue.
Valvedrones, ladies and gents.
>>340533063
>Not giving Pharah a damage boost while you two both fly above the battlefield raining justice
>>340519921
Quit before you get a loss
Sort of like how some autistis got 4.0s in high school
>Tfw you always have a ton of gold medals when you lose.
>>340533121
>get trapped in spawn because team is so shit
How delusional do you have to be to convince yourself that you're having fun at this point?
>>340531963
What are you talking about, 1.5/1 isn't even good
>>340526689
The only reason you could heal so much was because they sucked. You should be grateful., healslut.
>>340533654
>play Reinhardt
>losing the match
>26k blocked
>gold medals in damage, objective kills and eliminations
>>340533654
This is how all modern matchmaking handles good players now. It's a win/win for the developer/publisher.
Only way around it is 6 man premade that shit. Guaranteed 90%+ winrate as long as you aren't inviting the very shitters that drag you down in pubs.
>>340523775
>Hanamura
>Defending
>The retards don't take full advantage of the tight as fuck choke point leading to the first point and they all go out to get fucked in the ass.
>The bastion literally sets up in clear view of the enemy spawn doorways and just starts blasting it for a good 20 seconds
Needless to say it didn't go well, but at least the pain was over quickly.
>>340520473
>hooking and instakilling a tracer
truly there is no better feeling
except for maybe obliterating a wall of symmetra turrets in a single shot
>>340533949
I know maybe one guy on my list who plays the game "better" than me, and he 'mains' Genji. He's a beast with him, but sucks at anything resembling tanking or support.
Everyone else has 1 or 2 heroes they play, badly, and never switch.
>"but anon, I play to have fun. who cares if we lose"
Fuck you, you're the shitters who dragged us down when we were progressing Mythic in WoW and you constantly rage at shitters and feeders in LoL.
>>340534264
maining in this game is stupid as fuck they will quit sooner or later
>>340522685
>console
>playing against shitters
k
>>340534264
>Those friends/pubs who don't switch off of heroes
>I play just to have fun! :^)
>Loses their shit over every single death and rages at pubs
I don't fucking understand. If you're just "playing for fun" why do these people bitch so much when they get roasted by their own hubris? You can't have your cake and eat it too, fuckboy
>>340514994
>get put in a game
>Pick hero
>Defeat before you can even walk out.
This game sometimes.
>>340526689
>Often get praised as healer on Lucio and Mercy
>Play Lucio in Nepal
>Team is never anywhere near the objective and spread all over
>Die and die and die because everyone is hunting you
>At the end of the match team complains about my healing. Tank even going so far as to say "You suck." All the while he charges at random dps the moment he sees them and dies.
>Next match reshuffle. That guy is on opposing team.
>Drive him off of a cliff with an exploding D.VA and win the match.
Easily most satisfying moment in Overwatch so far.
>>340533654
>TFW your team is so shit you get the kills and objective kills gold medals as Zenyatta.
>>340534030
>truly there is no better feeling
widowmaker/pharah 1 hit kill bodyshots on tracer/zenyatta would like a word
>>340534491
no matter how you play you're going to get the same handful of characters in your most played list and if you don't you're either ignoring balance or (enemy) team composition
unless of course they literally just play one character, which is pretty fucking retarded
>>340534885
I dunno, I can see why you should switch at times like if the enemy for some fucking reason has 3 snipers then switching to Winston would be a good idea, or if the enemy has the correct amount of chromosomes and you keep getting fucked as bastion or toblerone then you should switch to something usefull.
But I play Pharah 90% of the time, and there's just never a reason to ever not play her, especially since she's usually one of the answers to the question "We're being fucked by X what should I switch to?"
>>340516694
>4chan is not an anime forum
>Genji says he needs healing
>He's behind enemy lines
>Trying to keep my team alive in the front
>mfw
>>340535402
I'm happy to see mercy players have taken up the smug delusional healer role I so miss from MMOs. Glad I haven't touched this heap.
>>340523080
I doubt it'll stop soon. It has been the same thing everytime a popular game came out. See FNAF, DS3, Undertale, MGS5, OW just to count recent games.
how do i git gud
>>340515973
>see tracer
>pick winston
>her mobility means nothing and I have an attention spawn of longer than three seconds so I can hit her off rewind.
If we are talking about annoying team members
>widow makers
>roadhog's that are seemingly terrified of combat and sit behind corners until someone else goes out first
I don't know what the fuck is up with this but I have seen it too many times.
>healers that don't try and stick with the team
>tracers that think they can run in and solo the enemy team
>>340514994
>playing team games solo
constanza etc.
>>340535402
Anyone who isnt the tank or another healer shouting that gets no heals from me.
I try to heal everyone anyway, don't hassle me. When shit hits the fan the tank is my focus.
Also, it's immediately obvious who needs healing anyway. Shouting just tells me they never even tried playing a healer before themselves.
>>340535402
mercy is for res and thats it though.
>>340535635
If you're playing pubs that's pretty much the norm. >50% rate also means you're improving every game so there's not much to do, unless you want to no-life the game and git gud.
>>340527043
Spotted the wannabe-Korean
>>340535215
>But I play Pharah 90% of the time, and there's just never a reason to ever not play her, especially since she's usually one of the answers to the question "We're being fucked by X what should I switch to?"
it really depends if their long range characters are better than you, getting sniped from across the map in 2 shots from a pixel on your wing is never a good feeling
>>340535669
>>tracers that think they can run in and solo the enemy team
tbf that's literally the purpose of tracer but the player needs to be really good to pull it off
>>340533654
>playing on Ilios
>tfw you wonder why your team isn't anywhere near the objective
>tfw your 5 team mates literally didn't manage to kill a Winston- Mercy combo that was standing before our spawnpoint
>tfw 4 goldmedals as D.Va
Forced 50 is a common practice in modern team-based games.
This is precisely the reason I quit Dota 2.
Fair matchmaking can only be achieved when there is no progress tracking involved.
A better system than what the current shit heaps game companies push out is gathering players of similar MMR and RANDOMLY assigning them to teams.
>>340535775
Well that's good. I think most people having 50%~ win rate means the matchmaking is working
>>340535669
I watched a Tracer wipe out my entire team yesterday without the ult.
Fucking ridiculous.
>>340535586
Fucking this
>Play Zarya and fucking push my teams ass to victory by sheer willpower and shielding stupid people that get caught out
>mercy never anywhere near me to heal the tank
>off getting killed by trying to fight people with her pistol solo
>rezes two people (who die because she panic rezed) and shoots one guy down by luck alone and gets play of the game
>10% healing at the end
>team still fucking votes for her
Fuck healers. They are nowhere near as essential as they they ro act in this game when so many characters have health recovery.
>>340535402
This is how people act
In a team game
It's no wonder matchmaking seems like shit. All of these nerds have a chip on their shoulder and refuse to work together because of petty shit.
>>340536134
>Fuck healers
Say that to my face and see what happens when you're "fucking invincible" in the eyes of death.
>>340536010
Normally yes, but the many many instances of getting sorted into groups with complete shitters speaks for forced 50%.
By contrast, there are tense matches where everyone pulls their weight and it's a head-to-head with the enemy team until the last second. Then you suddenly top damage & eliminations as the tank, while your team has absolutely no clue about how the game is played despite being lvl90+.
>>340536134
They try to*
>Complaining about your team in allchat
Why would you do this?
>>340536163
To be fair, Mercy is always a priority to kill, hell all supports are. I see people literally stop trying to kill the damage dealer in order to go straight for the support. If you want a mercy or Lucio to just run to the enemy, just to heal one guy and get killed for it along side with the guy you were healing, then you need to consider your decision making
>>340536271
Your evidence is anecdotal and most likely it only seems like your team is shit due to you losing the game.
>>340536376
cuz you nigger kid suck?
50W/51L
70 gold medals, 300 total.
Funny thing is I almost always get 3 golds when I lose.
>>340536427
No, often it's clear from the start that we will lose because nobody cares about team composition.
Me getting gold in offensive categories as a tank also means our offensive characters weren't doing their job.
An example: defending King's Row first point, someone picks Winston and gets nothing done. The pick makes no sense since Winston is a back-line disruptor, but the enemy's back-line is literally right next to their spawn. There is nothing for him to disrupt and he only gives them ult-charge and dies.
Or people who pick Zenyatta while no other healer is present, especially in a situation where many team-mates are out of line of sight frequently.
>>340533475
The Huntsman (the bow and arrow) are widely known as the Lucksman because the arrow has a gigantic hurtbox and you can get headers from across the map if your aim is vaguely predictive enough of the flight path.
>>340535263
>Le 4chan is for anime meme
There are boards for anime, stay there
>>340536779
>being triggered by anime on a site based off a japanese site, owned by a japanese man.
>>340522331
Why do people think torb is shit?
I was in the 320's but I'm afraid to play him with shitters now.
>>340536254
fucky mercy players*
>>340536921
>American site
>Made by an American
>Most people who come here are American
>>340532326
I play lucio alot and if there's one thing I'll tell you about public games it's that his healing aura seems to be replaced with scrub repellent because no matter where you are, your team isn't.
>>340514994
Who the fuck cares. Just play and have fun you cuck.
>>340514994
Sounds like perfectly balanced matchmaking to me.
>>340537061
Much better friend.
>>340537019
Torb is the secret best character, don't tell anyone or they'll start to catch on.
>>340537019
>get play of the game as Torb
>it's just me headshotting a Mcree, headshotting a Mercy, then shotgunning the Mcree she just rezzed again
>feel it was a shitty play
>teammates think it was an amazing play
I guess they expected to be watching a turret when they saw it pop up and were pleasantly surprised.
>>340536732
>people who pick Zenyatta while no other healer is present
I do that and I'm really good at the game. It's not an indication of skill level.
>>340537325
I think I'd prefer a great Zenyatta over a great Mercy
>>340537019
He seems easy to use at lower levels, but once you're up against more experienced teams he's rather easy to counter.
That said he is still useful. A smartly placed turret can still ruin your day. His gun is pretty snazzy and the armor, while only mildly useful is an added bonus.
>>340537325
Still, that's the exception. You can win with 6x Soldier76 if you have skilled players.
>>340537325
You can be really good at being useless.
>>340532956
>Huntsman has shitty hitboxes
>Literally every weapon in Overwatch has huntsman hitboxes
Amazing
>>340537280
HARD WORK PAYS OFF!
>>340537325
How do you git gud at zenyatta? Along with the snipers he's the character I suck at most.
>there are shitters who think forced 50 happens because people can't carry their team on a team-based game and therefore the only shit player on that team
>/owg/ truly believes this
Its gonna turn out like /tf2g/
>>340515973
>walk toward the point, sun glaring down on me
>hear tracer blinking around behind me
>stand still, hand ready to reach for my pistol
>tracer runs around the corner
>unsheathes flashbang
>"Whoa there"
>Draws pistol and fires off over 5 shots in the blink of an eye
>Tracer drops dead
>"Easy"
>Roll away into the noon
>>340537913
You can carry hard in TF2 what are you talking about.
In this game the skill floor is very high so you have to rely on your teammates more because everyone has an ubercharge
>>340515973
Tracer has a high skill-ceiling, but a good Mei can make her life hell.
>there are people with below 50% winrate and refuse to play support/tank
>>340537823
The hardest thing is to avoid snipers so you have to be aware of their position and try to get shots at them only if they're focused on someone else. There's no real reason to pick Zen instead of Mercy or Lucio btw.
>>340529438
Kek, just like CS's "buy the awp to win" mechanic.
is the "forced 50%" the new "elo hell" meme
>>340519719
no you mean
>starts conquering
>HEROES NEVER DIE
>le 1 second of invincibility on rez
>>340538282
the real reason is discord orb which is a very real reason.
>>340526423
>60% on average
>only die once
That doesn't sound very impressive
>>340530416
This.
A lot of the people who play Overwatch also play WoW and they're the biggest bunch on uncooperative fucktards out there.
>>340538309
Not really. The thing is though that your win rate will properly predict your future MMR. Higher than 50% means you'll be at a decent MMR. Lower than 50% will put you in the silver league.
I've played with Anons. If anything, the forced 50% is helping them.
>>340538494
But you don't pick him with the delusion that he's a healer.
>>340538658
he can easily do it though. feel like the animosity comes from ignorance.
>>340530748
this is what i do as reinhardt. if you see a situation where you're most likely gonna die, you might as well go balls to the wall. i've actually saved several games this way
>>340517419
>it's a "you have a fucking widow/hanzo on attack in overtime and they are still ifar away from the point trying to snipe" episode
>>340534030
>no better feeling
Gotta disagree with you there, sport. Pistol kills with Mercy in dire situations is the fucking nectar of the gods. Choice moment from the highlight reel:
Mercy gets focused hard, and as a result can easily be separated from the team and forced to run back separately.
>critical
>critical
>critical
team under heavy fire
>round the corner
>soar into the middle of it, land behind reinhardt
>the rest are just corpse timers
>less than ten seconds before they start spawning
>neither beam does reinhardt any good behind his shield; he takes little damage and isn't swinging
>ham time
PAP PAP PAP PAP
>eliminated faggot1
>reinhardt's shield shatters
>sacrificial hammer mode engage
PAP PAPPAP PAP PAP
>eliminated faggot2
PAPAPAP PAP
>eliminated faggot3
>reinhardt on an empty tank, tracer strafing around, she's got my number >WWWCHHHHHHHHHHH
>reinhardt flies past and nails her
PAPPAPAP PAPPA PAP PAP
>eliminated faggot4
>he finally dies
HEROES NEVER DIE
>whole team goes gold
Porn is obsolete.
>>340538097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDN4L7cAQf0
Fuck Tracers.
Insuferable cunts.
>>340525345
You can't prove a negative
>>340522890
this is why i don't do premades bigger than 3, MAYBE 4. the other people doing 6-man premades are usually people who play to win and my friends play just because. i wish i could play this game without wanting to win, because losing for stupid reasons just isn't fun to me.
>>340538979
>thinking a "forced 50%" would understand that
>playing on Nepal, lose first round, win the second, but lose the third
>fairly balanced game overall
>our team's lucio goes "4 gold medals, this team baka" in all chat in the results
>I had gold in objective eliminations, damage, and objective time as winston
>he leaves before I can call him out on his bullshit
What a faggot. Fuck healers that make themselves seem more important than they really are.
>>340532671
the difference with her is that her fire rate and reload speed are extremely high. pair that with a fairly accurate spread and her dps is pretty reliable, even from far away (yes she has dropoff but it can still be effective if she has someone else backing her up)
>>340532956
>game from 9 years ago compares to a game made in 2016
>on a engine made in 2004
hahaha, geez man
>>340533654
>completely get destroyed in a match
>only had 3 eliminations
>got a gold medal for it
What the fuck was my team doing?
>our team of five friends and a some random dude pick 5 Pharah's and a lucio just for shits and giggles, attacking Anubis
>proceed to devastate the enemy team faster than ever before
>game only lasts one minute and thirty six seconds
>our faces when
>>340534030
>get hooked by a Roadhog
>stick him as soon as he pulls me in then recall
>he survives
Well shit.
>enter a match
>pick Mercy
>someone on our team say in voice chat "Pick Lucio, he's much better hero"
>"Yes, he is a much better hero" I respond
>don't switch heroes
>win the match in 3 minutes
>>340539520
>pubstompers
>>340539434
You know you're on a team of shitters when you think you played terribly but still get MVP in your area.
>>340538992
>this is why i don't do premades bigger than 3, MAYBE 4
Supposedly the system doesn't give a fuck about the size of a premade. There could just be you and a friend playing and you'll get paired against a 5-man.
>>340531453
>not talking at all is normal
>talking to other people is autistic
You see how this sounds?
>>340533654
Blizzard thinks getting gold medals as a loser is to motivate you but it's wrong. It only adds to the insult that you got gold medal with 4 eliminations.
>>340539434
>0.01 of objective time
>gold medal
>>340518623
>decrying casual fun as being a paragon of virtue
do you even know the definition of one word in that sentence? because it is just a bunch of fucking contradictory terms mashed together
>>340539203
you can tie for gold medals
it's possible, but highly unlikely he was telling the truth
>>340522331
Wow! 26 whole games! Maybe if you're a fucking retard you shouldn't play this game, anon :^)
>>340537569
Kek I did that the other day. We demolished any resistance.
>were all soldiers now!
>>340529931
fucking wrong
>>340539696
2 days ago on Ilios
>Get stuck by Tracer
>Hook her
>Pulse bomb explodes, kills her
>28 health left
>Take a breather
We both had a laugh about it after the game, he was a good sport even if I hate Tracer
>>340538227
>pretty sure my w/l is below and all I play is supports/tanks
I blame my team
>>340519116
>y-y-you must just play on a 6-man!
t. shitters
>shitty players that think them sucking is the game's fault
If you were good you'd have at least a 60% winrate, they interviewed the main guy on the design changes team and he said matchmaking isn't designed to put you at 50%
I can't pull up the article since I'm on my phone but he also talks about mccree nerf and d.va buff plans and some other shit
>>340537019
Rank is essentially time played. SPM is what you want to look at.
>>340540286
>admitting to being a shit-eating millenial phone-poster
>>>/facebook/
RELEASE THE NEXT HERO ALREADY FUCK DO IT
We know it's a support sniper. I'm so bored of playing the same 3 healers and honestly if I could get half of the people who currently play Hanzo and WM to be a support sniper from now on I'd never go unhealed
>In the beta it would match premades with pub teams
>Play with friends
>Have a solid 75-85% winrate constantly because we collaborate on voice and such while the enemy team in runs in like lemmings to die
>They decide to implement the stacked automatically gets put against stacked teams only system between the last beta, and release.
>Forced into 50~% winrate
I'm not mad the system is there, I'm mad they purposely withheld it till release like they were trying to sneakily pull the rug out from under a group of people and secure more sales or something, why, just why?
>it's a "/v/ has no idea what it's talking about but tries to talk about balance anyway" episode
>>340539520
>playing with randoms
>defense on Russia level
>three teammates have picked Tracer
>fuck it I'll pick her too
>after a while 4 players from the enemy team switch to Tracer
>You ever get that feeling of deja vu?
>You ever get that feeling of deja vu?
>You ever get that feeling of deja vu?
>the entire match
>panicking because Tracers are zipping into view and then disappearing
>can't keep track of anybody
>turns out to be the most intense and fun match I've ever played
They need to do an all Tracer weekly event.
>>340530748
Might as well feed bastions ult if you're going to be this retarded
>>340540434
The end of orb meta truly wrecked Zenyatta
S/A tier to F tier
Buff harmony healing when???
>When you stomp an enemy team so hard
It was a good day.
>>340540434
Just because Torb is useless in organized competative play doesn't mean he doesn't stomp the shit out of pubs.
>>340530843
Yeah. Fuck those people in every game. Especially class based games.
>playing a support role in a game such as healer or support offense
>unable to do my job because the fucks who are supposed to be taking aggro are shit and constantly dying
>leaving me to get wrecked because I now have to fight outside my characters role
>>340537569
You can win with 6 of any hero if the team is skilled enough. The hardest same hero team would probably be Symmetra on attack and Reaper on defense.
>78% winrate with Mercy
>38% winrate with Reinhardt
Fuck.
> Want to play a tank
No support
> Want to play a support
No tank/Useless hog
>>340539415
>I dont know anything about engines
Yet here you are making implications about things you are ignorant about
so uh
is the site for anyone else not loading?
>>340540874
I leave all games where my team goes double sniper.
Not like leaving affects anything in this game.
>>340538797
>You have both a widow and a hanzo on attack
>>340532781
>blood-splatter has been server side in cs:go for years unless you've found an undiscovered bug, quit talking out your arse
Not that guy, but both decals and dead bodies are client side. They even talked about it at the last major.
>>340541083
> You have a Hanzo.
>>340537732
Only non hitscan weapons have shit hitboxes
>>340540405
>have desktop computer with 4chan open in Chrome right now
>I'm 10 feet away
>laying in bed posting with my phone, comfy as fuck
>tfw you know hunched over NEETs are jealous of our comfy posting
>>340540434
>people playing a brand new game dont choose certain characters in competitive play means they're bad
Kinda funny, Mercy actually has the lowest win rate in the game, while Lucio has the highest win rate to play rate ratio.
Instead of letting good players go higher in rank and play with and against other good players they force good players to play with total shits vs average trash.
You would ask, why the fuck? That is obvious:
Overwatch is played by scrubs and subhuman shits only, so there is nobody to match a rare good player with and against. Enjoy playing your aids 3+ game.
>>340540429
>I wouldn't have bought the game if I couldn't pubstomp with a premade
weow
>>340541238
>brand new
Comp scene has had access to closed beta for a long time now. Mei and D.Va used to be used more but then they got nerfed and are now shit. Zenyatta used to be OP but then he got nerfed and is now shit. etc.
>>340514994
>mfw play exclusively with 6 stack on voice
>>340532326
>playing as lucio on attack
>idiot flanker genji who spends most of the game doing next to nothing behind enemy lines complains about not getting heals
just fucking end me lads
>>340541778
>Playing Torb
>Team spams NEED ARMOR, enemy isn't even out of the gates yet
>Fucking faggots, it wasn't funny the first time.
>>340541456
Does Japan even know how to animate laughter anymore?
>>340541132
>VIDEO GAMES
>>340542151
>playing torb
>only use armor packs for myself
>I get potg spamming armor packs on myself while being hunted down by Tracer and my turret is wrecking her ass and the rest of the team's
>>340521684
>Fucking her, cooking, or playing Warhammer is more fun to me if I have the free time. lol
trying too hard
>enemy team is running 3 pharras, 2 hanzos and a soldier
>>340542413
>Playing Tracer
>Dash across the open
>Die middash because a Torb turrert spun 180 and blasted me from a mile away
I know Tracer is strong, and Torb isn't the best, but seriously its total bullshit.
Solo queue this week has been the absolute fucking worst video game experience I've ever had to endure. I don't know why but suddenly everyone forgot how to fucking play and I'm getting hanzos and widows that can't hit a single fucking thing, genjis that never do anything, and every competent player I happen to match up with leaves inside of five seconds when they realize the other fags on our team can't do anything right.
>>340542724
I've started to fag it up and friend people who are half-way competent and not a huge faggot.
Sure beats having 2 Hanzos/2 Widows each game.
>>340514994
The same with lol
>Play aram all day
>All are fun and games, literally no flamers nor afks
>Start winning more than losing
>Inmediatly start getting afks and flammers
>>340538227
>play support/tank every game
>try something different
>lose because no one plays support/tank
>>340515973
>make one mistake
>die
That's what high risk high reward means
>>340528981
>he didn't catch the sarcasm
>6-man group
>someone has to leave
>play with 5 anyway
>incoming random is always a Widowmaker or Hanzo main who will refuse to switch and never does shit
Every fucking time.
Why are randoms so obsessed with the snipers even when they can't aim for shit?
>type 1
>fun back and forth game, reasonable chance for either team to win, I don't give a shit who wins
>type 2
>"50.1%" winrate
>paired with people who leave the game after 1 death, which takes another person 1 min to get in and to the defense point, then they are mad/tilted/possibly leaving for getting into a losing game
>3 snipers, 2 genji, etc
>toblerone on offense, stat trek indian on offense, etc
>we get steamrolled+raped
>mad as fuck
>type 3
>49.99% winrate
>paired with literal gods, when I'm normally easily getting golds+silvers, I only manage bronze + 1/2 silver
>our sniper never misses and doesn't rely on bodyshots
>our reinhart is a literal god, with his best friend playing mercy on his dick
>we absolutely steamroll the type of people from game type 1/2
>bored most of the time in this game mode, but not mad
>>340543149
Are you me?its almost as bad as when a Mercy is clearly new at her and doesn't spam her Ult
>>340543439
is ranked out? what do you mean gold/silvers
>>340543629
medals at the end of the game, doofus.
>>340543629
You get medals based off your performance on your team.
Position #1/2/3 in damage, kills, objective, healing, etc.
>getting destroyed
>waiting for that sweet, sweet autobalance
>not enough people
>disbanded
>>340515485
even those premades get to match against mlg pros if they start winning matches
>someone picks tojrborne or symmetra on offense
>report them
>group up with 2-5 friends
>always just pick the same hero
>all winston on koth
>all hazno on attack
>all turrets on defend
One game with other team went full winston to fight our all parah team, so we went full winston for a 12 winston extravaganza. The game is fun as long as you don't take it seriously
Does everyone in here have garbage winrates or something? How does forced 50 exist if I have had a 63% WR for the past 100 games?
>>340544216
I've got 65-70% on my preferred characters but that still doesn't stop me from having a terrible time full of faggots every time I try to solo queue.
Support main here.
The key to getting any kind of decent winrate is to get into 4-6 player stacks.
Solo Quick Match Mercy does not work, Reinhardt doesn't really work, Lucio is so busted OP that he kind of works but not really.
>>340520904
Get better friends.
>116 played
>49 won
>100% winrate over 10 lucio games
>>340544308
Honest question, what makes you want to solo queue in a team game?
>be shit faced drunk
>get 91% on fire MVP accomidation
>the entire enemy team and my team votes for me getting me a legendary status
Overwatch sure is competitive :^)
>>340544528
The desire to play the video game at times when my friends are not online.
Game is downloading in my PS4 as we speak, expect to play it a lot when I get home. Can I get 4-5 homies to add a nigga on PSN and be patient with a newbie so we can become a number one dream team? None of my faggot IRL friends have overwatch on consoles.
>>340542724
Same for me.
last 4 games I got 4 goldmedals with D.Va, 4 Goldmedals with Roadhog, 4 Goldmedals with Pharah and 4 Goldmedals with Zenyatta.
can my team-mates please stop playing this game with a fucking Guitar Hero guitar?
No other game ever managed to suck out my joy like OW.
>>340516708
if you're playing solo queue, you're not going to 'improve every game' enough for your winrate to reflect it...rather you win or lose is about 95% based on the actions of your team
>forced 50
T. Shitter who plateaus at their skill level
The one thing I don't understand is how people with level 50+ who MUST have played at least 40 hours or so can suck so bad on hanzo or widow or any hero
>>340544870
this is exactly my experience lately...4 gold medals and a loss EVERY GAME
>>340540434
>roadhog gets his own tier.
>>340514994
>>340515418
Reminder that if you don't have enough friends to play as a premade 6 thenyou're honestly a fucking loser and unlikable.
>>340529029
Mccree.
Fuck you. Get cancer.
>it's a "the attacking team wants to play TDM on a payload map" episode
>>340518479
Experience. I did fine for the first week and a half after release and then suddenly it started matching me with the worst windowlickers I've ever seen over and over. I had AFKs on my team not once, not twice, but four fucking games in a row, I got matched with literal level 1s but against prestiged players, I got to see FOUR offensive snipers in the same game.
I have never seen matchmaking this bad.
