Since we've got a new KH 2.8 trailer today, here's your chance /v/. If you're still confused on Kingdom Hearts either because of lore/story or gameplay, ask your questions.
What the fuck is Kingdom Hearts? Is it a place or someone or something?
>>340458359
Kingdom Hearts is the heart of all worlds and supposedly a source of great power and wisdom.
what does her armpits taste like
>>340458508
That's a not a story or gameplay question anon.
What actual story-important stuff has happened since the original release of KH2?
>>340457742
Why did Xehanort go back to the past if he can't change or affect the past?
Where is the trailer?
Why is Larxene best girl?
>>340458580
it's technically a lore question
Just a reminder, if you can't get KH's story, a story that small children can understand by the way, you might be retarded.
>>340458486
Why are there alter egos of literally everyone? For what purpose? Why do Donald and Goofy have no Nobody or whatever
>>340458764
A lot of stuff.
>>340458782
Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPoQw2J177c
>>340458831
Here's the official character chart.
>Why do Donald and Goofy have no Nobody or whatever
Because they didn't meet the requirments to make one. Meaning that they didn't lose their hearts and make Heartless.
Imma help you out, OP
>>340458764
Almost every game released since KH2 has significance to the story
>>340458831
Are you asking why nobodies or the many Xehanorts exist?
>>340459052
Thanks anon.
>>340459052
>>340459026
What are the basics? So, for example, as far as I know the point of Days was Xion existing/not existing but what does that actually mean? BBS has Terranort and whatever the fuck edgy-Sora was, what did Coded retcon, etc.
>>340457742
I want to lick her feet.
>>340459026
Please tell me that command styles will not be kept for KH3 and that they are only for 2.8
>>340459360
Days was supposed to be more information about Roxas' time in the Organization and why he left. Xion is part of the reason why he leftthough going by interviews she wasn't prior to Days' development.. It's more set up for Roxas' possibly becoming his own person in KH3.
>Coded retcon
As far as I know, not much/nothing? I'm not sure if I"m completely getting what you're asking.
>>340459586
It's possible but we don't know. Nomura had said in an interview for 2.8 last year that BbS 0.2's gameplay was gonna try to be a mix of KH3's and BbS'.
how many fucking people are Xehanort by now
I haven't played KH in a while and I forgot
>>340457742
Why do Sora and Riku turn into kids in DDD?
Are the Foretellers of the five Unions members of Organization 13? IN the trailer thing, they said they sent duplicates of themselves to the future, and I noticed some of the voices were similar.
>>340459714
Prior to release, the pitch behind Coded was that KH1 as we saw it was actually Sora's distorted memories, and Coded would reveal what "actually" happened, wasn't it? So what "actually" happened in KH1?
>>340457742
Who the fuck is the blue haired chick
>>340459812
Xehanort currently has 12 vessels as of 3D, he was trying to get Sora to be his 13th. His goal is to have 13 altogether.
>>340459907
At the beginning of the game? So they would forget their self taught skills.
>>340459926
It's possible, but currently unknown. A good chunk of Xehanort's True Org is unknown.
>>340459978
Aqua from Birth by Sleep. It's a prequel to KH1.
>>340459812
I think its 12
>>340459812
Old Man Xehanort
Xemnas
Ansem, SoD
Xigbar
Saix
Young Xehanort
I think that's currently our Team Dark. So seven more if Noruma doesn't go crazy.
>>340459907
They're in a dream world, so apparently it forces their younger appearances.
>>340459926
We don't don't know, but we can infer that Xehanort, or his teacher, was the traitor/6th member.
>>340459978
Aqua, from BBS
>>340460118
>so apparently it forces their younger appearances.
Yen Sid did it so they would relearn and forget their self taught shit.
Who are the 7 lights or whatever they're called?
Will Lightning be in KHIII?
>>340460278
The current line up is not entirely known and Nomura's be playing games about it. There are popular quesses going around though.
>>340460315
It's possible though Nomura designed her/drew her Toriyama is the one in love with her.
>>340459026
So what exactly does 1:07 mean?
She does an ice attack and the Spellweaver shows up as a prompt on the triangle button above the commands and later we see her with the command style
Does that mean that you have the option to or not activate command styles and they don't do whatever they please anymore?
There is also an MP bar so that's good
>>340460424
>Does that mean that you have the option to or not activate command styles and they don't do whatever they please anymore?
>There is also an MP bar so that's good
That's what I took from it.
>>340460278
It's possible it's our heroes, but Noruma's been tight lipped about it, so.
>>340460315
Maybe. We may see Noct, as well.
>>340459972
All Coded is is them fixing the journal after Namine fucked with it during CoM, and finding messages she left in it telling them about the BBS crew
Was days multiplayer fun?
>>340457742
Why is the Bear foreteller fighting the others?
>>340460678
Played it with my brother and it was.
>>340460776
One of the Foreteller in Chi/Unchained X/X Back Cover is supposedly a traitor. Though it may not be Aced/Ursus necessarily.
>>340460315
I can't believe you are really asking this question
She will be a world partner the same way Auron was, count on it
What is Lea/Axels role? What is his purpose?
>>340460974
Lea/Axel may be one of the 7 Lights. He asked Yen Sid to preform the Inheritance Ceremony and fulfilled the strength of heart requirement.
>>340460974
Sacrifcal lamb
>>340459026
where is this diagram from? is there a book detailing all the events?
>>340460974
At this point I don't even know. I think it's mostly due to him being popular that he even gets a keyblade. But he'll most likely be an important player on the light side. I can't see him becoming a light since we have seven good candidates already.
>>340457742
Assuming I liked Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, BBS, and played nothing else, what games outside of them should I play?
>>340461150
Just about every KH game has a book called an Ultimania that goes deeper into lore elements/the development of the games. That chart is from the Memorial Ultimania that came out when 2.5 was release in Japan.
>>340461293
DDD and CoM/Re:Com I say
>>340461293
I'd recommend having a knowledge of what's happening all of them if you care about story, bar Days because it's shit. Playwise which one did you like more? There's a lot of experimentation in regards to the gameplay in this series.
>>340460118
You still haven't answered two of of my questions OP
>>340458782
>>340457742
Here's my question.
Why the fuck is it a full priced game?
KH 3D is one full game then Aqua's will probably be about 2 hours. Shouldn't it be 30?
>>340461298
Oh nice. There were no ultimania guides in America?
>>340461456
He's not the OP. Anyway, Larxene is best girl if you believe she is. Second, the timetravel in 3D is a bit wonk so I'm not sure if I can explain that accurately. Maybe KHfagthe real onecan.
>>340461494
Not officially. Sites like KHInsider have translations of them.
>>340461456
I will never understand time travel and quite honestly, I tuned out Xehanort's explanation for the very reason that time travel in fiction always gets funky, so yeah.
And Larxene is a potential best girl because she actually does shit.
>>340457742
>Aqua is trapped in Hell and slowly losing her mind from being alone
>Roxas gets treated like shit throughout his entire existence, gets constantly lied to and just wants to live a happy normal life but he's forced to give up his existence so he can wake some cocky little shit up
Why does Nomura shit on the best characters ?
>>340462042
At least Sora thinks Roxas should be his own person?
>>340459360
>as far as I know the point of Days was Xion existing/not existing but what does that actually mean?
Honestly, not much.
>BBS has Terranort and whatever the fuck edgy-Sora was, what did Coded retcon, etc.
coded doesn't retcon anything.
I guess the basics since KHII are
Days
>Xion is created to siphon Roxas's power, Roxas defeats her and she disappears from everyone's memories
BbS
>Terra, Aqua and Ventus get fucked up
>Terra the new vessel for Xehanort
>Ventus comatose in Castle Oblivion (changed from Land of Departure)
>Aqua stuck in the Realm of Darkness
"Edgy-Sora" is Vanitas, the dark half of Ventus which Xehanort split from him in order to have equal components of light and dark clash to forge the χ-blade
coded
Mickey and Jiminy digitize the KH1 journal to figure out what's going on behind the mysterious messages inside
It's full of bugs
After fixing the journal, Data-Naminé appears in a data Castle Oblivion to deliver the memories of people who are connected to Sora, which she found inside Sora's heart between CoM and KHII
DDD
>Sora and Riku take their Mark of Mastery in the Realm of Sleep
>Xehanort follows them
>Sora is almost made a vessel
>Xehanort has created a new Orgnazation using versions of him across time
>Lea (Axel recompleted) becomes a Keyblade wielder
I would recommend, if nothing else, watching the GameTrailers Timeline video for a more complete summation of the series.
>post yfw when you heard Terra call Aqua's name
>>340462042
>Aqua is trapped in Hell and slowly losing her mind from being alone
I swear to God if we get nothing else between Xemnas and Aqua. That shit is set up perfectly.
>>340462912
It's an illusion so whatever
>>340462912
Too bad she's losing her mind.
>>340462912
Most likely an illusion of their meeting in ciderella's castle.
>>340462417
Explain to me why Xehanort traveled to the past if he can't change the past and why does it even matter
>>340462946
Nomura is actually pretty great at foreshadowing shit. There has got to be a reason why that scene was added in Final Mix. Xemnas and Aqua will interact somehow
>>340462912
That's just Aqua going crazy
>>340460424
When she uses both Thundaga and Blizzaga the timer starts. It seems like if you meet a quota(Damage maybe?) with a certain condition(Using magic) it gives you the option to go into a style change. Since Spellweaver was magic in BBS it's safe to assume using magic gives you the choice to go into it or not, and then when you go into it it lets you use it how it was in BBS.
Played through the entire series 2 years ago but I might do it again before 2.8 comes out (lol not gonna happen).
Literally the only thing I'm confused about is DDD. I still don't get what happened fully. Also do I need to play both Mobile games too?
Other than that, the story is pretty easy to understand.
>>340463165
Because he isn't trying to change the past.
The purpose of his time travel is to assemble versions of himself from across time, to form the True Organization, thirteen seekers of darkness.
>>340463481
>Also do I need to play both Mobile games too?
It helps apparently.
>>340458508
POO IN LOO
What did ReCoded contribute that they couldn't have just put in a cutscene in 3D/2.8?
>>340463558
But by giving information to his past self and making them go on time traveling shenanigans he is effectively changing the past which is something that he supposedly can't do
So what the fuck?
If he is trying to make the organization out of himself from many different times then how is that going to work because they clearly have a time limit for how long they can time travel and once they return they don't remember anything of their time travel?
>>340457742
Why is KH such shit?
Why has it been so long for KH3?
Why are KH fans such bootlicking faggots?No really, I haven't heard of people sticking with a series that has such shitty waiting periods and trash titles in between main good titles.
>>340464391
Here's your (You), now go on you little scamp.
>>340460315
I hope Square just forgets that Lightning and FF13 exists so we can all wipe that stain of shame away.
>>340464364
>by giving information to his past self and making them go on time traveling shenanigans he is effectively changing the past
Not really. The actual events of the past aren't changed, and when Young Xehanort comes back from his traveling, it'll be as if it never happened to begin with.
There are mechanics to the time travel that aren't really clear, like their "time limit," but hopefully that gets expanded upon in KHIII where it'll probably be more relevant.
>>340464391
What exactly do I have to do to "stick" with a series? What am I losing by "sticking" with it?
>>340464391
Subjective
Does anyone actually like how huge the world was in DDD? That shit made combat and especially boss battles such a pain in the ass due to how large the boss arena's are with how zoomed out the cameras are, and having to run around so much just to catch up to the boss
>>340465167
Not to mention finding all the chests
>>340465167
I hated it.
>>340465167
I think the worst boss was in Traverse Town. Absolutely huge boss but the arena is super small but requires a lot of jumping, and the thing just loves jumping to higher platforms after a couple of hits.
>>340465167
I didn't like it or flowmotion.
>>340464720
Sucks for you that many people liked FF13 and lightening so that "shame" isn't going anywhere. I even saw her still on huge billboards in Shinjuku for louis vuitton.
>>340465167
Sucks nuts and flowmotion ruined combat arguably more than the keyblade being shit
If you could take away one thing from KH what would it be, I'd surely get rid of status ailments, literally who thought that shit was a good idea?
>>340466013
>>340466013
I agree with >>340466149 that or Xion herself.
Is Aqua's new game supposed to give us a taste of KH3 gamepkay?
>>340466013
Shot lock
>>340466232
Yes though Nomura has said that 0.2 is supposed to be more of a mix.
>>340466149
>>340466210
This.
Fuck Days man. It's not even for story reasons. I just didn't like it at all.
>>340466232
It's a mix between BBS and KH3 gameplay under KH3 mechanics but with a slower magic-based character, take that as you will.
>>340458789
It's about character building and getting to know the characters
>>340465167
I only liked it because jumping around in flowmotion was fun
>>340466464
Aqua isn't "slow" so much as she is "nimble."
Her cartwheels are way better than Sora's dodgeroll in terms of i-frames
>>340466149
whats so bad about days? tfw I just ordered it on amazon yesterday.
Should I cancel and get coded instead? I want to play the ds ones.
>>340466563
She is slow as fuck in bbs.
>>340457742
I want an Aqua figma to buy.
>>340466563
Her base attacks are whats slower, most of the time you're never even using default attacks and just cartwheeling while spamming magic.
>>340466696
ReCoded is one of the best games in the series from a gameplay standpoint
Days gameplay is complete dogshit like DDD aside from having some nifty keyblade movesets
>To spend one more night underneath the stars with my friends...
>...I'm doing it again
IT' ACTUALLY ISN'T FAIR!
>>340466696
Feel free to play Days and form your own opinions.
But I believe the reasons I posted it will become self-evident.
Order Re:coded regardless. It's fun as heck.
K. What the fuck is the appeal in the series? I played II years ago, and I hated it. Final Fantasy is my favorite game franchise next to Fire Emblem, and that made me wanna play KH. Then I saw what they did to Setzer, and it made me hate it. Seriously, what do you people see in this series that I'm not?
>>340466728
>you're never even using default attacks
But anon that applies to every character in BBS, if you're using their base attacks, and not a command then you are literally playing the game wrong
Well besides Terra Xehanort I suppose, who's easier if you just learn how to guard, and stick with base attacks
>>340466696
I found very very tedious and barebone from it's gameplay to it's mission structure.
>>340466728
Well if ya abuse spellweaver like a good goy she's fast as fuck
>>340466696
Worse gameplay in the series. It's tedious, clunky, bland and overall boring as fuck.
Worlds are empty as fuck
HORRIBLE FUCKING PACING. The story starts out interesting, then nothing happens for a bunch of hours, then suddenly shit goes from 0 to 60 towards the end of the game.
It's just overall a bad game. Re:Coded is much better.
>>340467003
>>340466913
>>340466796
word, ReCoded is only 15 bucks on Amazon so I may as well grab it.
>>340466728
You're really not supposed to be using base attacks in BBS.
What happends to terra? I just played the psp one, GBA and the first one. Don't remember anything from the ending of the first game tho.
>>340466995
It's fun.
>>340466995
Playing KH for the FF content is perhaps the worst possible reason.
Don't treat it like an FF game.
Don't treat the FF characters like FF characters (for all intents and purposes, they aren't).
Play it as a KH game with KH characters.
>>340467223
If you played the PSP one, which is Birth By Sleep that's Terra's game. He looses his body to Master Xehanort.
>>340467223
Replay the psp one.
>>340467223
Got bodysnatched by Old Xehanort
>>340460118
Saix is xehanort too? Explain. Also, I'm still not clear about that hollow bastion room at the very end of kh1 with pods in it.
>>340467353
>>340467354
>>340467371
Yeah, sorry, I wen't full retard. I meant after Xehanort steals his body he is just fucked and "died"?
I like the combat in Days. The boss battles are really intense, different keyblade gears have unique combos, fitting things on the ability grid system thing is kinda cool. The air battles in Neverland are awesome. My main problem with Days if I had to name one would be that the worlds are mostly recycled from other games.
>>340467335
Why would I not treat the FF characters like FF characters, when they're fucking in it?! That's like telling me to not treat Bugs Bunny as Bugs Bunny in something that isn't the original Looney Tunes. Cmon anon.
>>340467423
Like Xigbar, Saix sacrificed himself to become part of Xehanort. Why he did that is unknown, presumably he just believes in the cause that much.
The pods in Hollow Bastion contained the Princesses of Heart. Maleficent was going to use them to open Kingdom Hearts.
>>340467512
Nah he's still in there.
>>340466696
>Xion is shoved into the story as an important character but is mainly just there to cause sadness and waste hundreds of your days.
>Game about the Organization doesn't go anywhere in-depth with the Organization at all.
At best you get just a slight bit more insight into what was going on between the CO team and Xemnas' crew.
>Story goes absolutely nowhere until Riku shows up which happens around day 300.
>At least half the levels take place in Agrabah.
>Stealth missions where the enemy has no tells that they're turning, you have to be right behind them, and it takes about a minute straight of not messing up, and if you mess up at all it's back to the start.
>Magic spells are limited cast but are the only decent way of dealing damage
>Magic spells have gimmicks due to the multiplayer nature of the game(Cure instantly heals, Cura heals over time and disappears if you get hit, Curaga places an AoE on the ground to stand in) which makes everything but the base spells worthless.
Fire and Blizzard can home in, but Fira, Blizzara, Firaga, and Blizzaga all can't which makes them insanely useless. Blizzaga is a proximity mine so at least it has some uses.
>Keyblade does about as much damage as the Struggle Bat does even when fully maxed out.
>Crits are the only decent way of dealing damage and the only character who can do them reliably is Saix but he's only usable in multiplayer.
>Everything to do with Emerald Serenades.
>"Secret" boss is literally a recolor of a Wyvern but with triple the health, he sits in the background spamming at you all the time, can two shot you, and has you dealing with dozens of heartless outside of him.
>Most of the enemies are just recolors.
>Agrabah
>Only fun part of the entire game is DUAL WIELD five minutes from the end of the game.
>Multiplayer is almost unplayable with everyone but Saix and Roxas being extremely underpowered, gimmicky, and sometimes outright unusable.
Mickey for example plays like Yoda but hits horrendously low.
>>340467423
Yes, Saix/Isa is a Nort.
>>340467512
His mind/rage went and reanimatd his armor which is still in the Keyblade Graveyard. It looks like his heart is constantly battle Xehanort for control as of Blank Points.
>>340467603
>Saix sacrificed himself to become part of Xehanort. Why he did that is unknown, presumably he just believes in the cause that much.
Where was it said/shown that Saix/Isa sacrificed himself? That sounds like a reach.
>>340467512
He seems to still be fighting back against Oldynort judging by that one scene in BBS' secret ending, but he hasn't beaten him yet
>>340457742
I'm pretty solid on everything except what went on in KH Chi and how that led to the war. Somebody gimme a general idea. Did the various squads of the Foretellers just eventually decide to duke it out?
>>340457742
Why Aqua is the best girl?
>>340467741
We haven't gotten that far yet. Chi ends in September and Unchained X is still ongoing.
>>340467519
>hy would I not treat the FF characters like FF characters
Because they are effectively entirely different.
Think of it as "Cloud KH Ver." instead of the Cloud you know from FFVII.
His relationships with other characters is different
His story is different
The planet from FFVII doesn't exist, Cloud's homeworld is therefore different
It's a strange way to do a crossover, I'll grant you that.
You just gotta live with it.
>>340467514
Nearly all of the bosses in Days boil down to "wait for the boss to be open"
All their attacks are incredibly simple and easy to dodge
Their AI is terrible
They all have far too much HP
So it just turns into a boring slog without much challenge.
>>340467519
Because they aren't. Setzer isn't the Setzer from FFVI, he's a gambling citizen of Twilight Town named Setzer who's a big hotshot. Tidus is a kid on an island with his friends Wakka and Selphie. Aerith, Yuffie, and Leon all came from Hollow Bastion and defend the town from Heartless.
The Disney characters are meant to be more closely tied to their film/cartoon counterparts. The Final Fantasy characters are more or less OCs that resemble their FF counterparts.
>>340467723
>>340467736
>>340467627
I see thanks. I have the 3ds one(haven't played it yet) and a PS3, what remaster/remakes/ports do I need to play to get most of the story?
I'm good just getting the ps3 ones?
>>340467723
>Where was it said/shown that Saix/Isa sacrificed himself? That sounds like a reach.
I meant that he did whatever Xigbar did, which involves more or less giving up your sense of self, based on what Sora said when he confronted Xigbar about it.
>>340467936
The PS3 remasters/remixes are a collection of the games. So if you'd get 1.5, 2.5, and 2.8 for the PS4 you should be caught up.
>>340460089
>A good chunk of Xehanort's True Org is unknown.
Not entirely, here's his biggest secret for those of your interested.
His keyblade gives away the fact that he actually was the leader/creator of that keyblade masters group. (The ones who are wearing and represent different animals call "The Foretellers")
There is one animal hinted among the group which is the Ram. Xehanorts Keyblade represents the Ram.
He was the 'Master of Masters'.
(You can see the Ram head right above the handle of his keyblade, Which gives away the. biggest secret)
So basically Xehanort has been alive before the keyblade wars, Creator of The Fortellers And this is why he was trying to make Organization 13 so he could basically continue to be immortal to finally bring darkness to the world(s).
Regardless of all the nonsense that the Kingdom hearts story contains. This character, Xehanort has been in planning probably ever since the beginning of the Kingdom hearts series, And Nomura is now finally about ready to unleash this crazy long planned mother fucker in KH3.
Xehanort is basically a evil version of Jesus and Frankenstein mixed together.
>>340465167
Yes, but Flowmotion ruined it.
>>340468095
How does that fit in with MX being a young dude from Destiny Islands then
>>340468095
You should qualify all of this as speculation since absolutely none of it is confirmed.
>>340468095
Anon, did you just skim a summary of X? That's not what's going on there. You're making some funny assumptions.
>>340468203
It doesn't.
>>340468095
Sorry brah but the Ultimania confirmed that the animal is meant to be a horned lion and not a goat
>>340468095
Before anyone jumps the gun, this hasn't been confirmed in the slightest and is just this anon's speculation.
>>340468287
>It doesn't.
but
>>340467642
I liked the tetris character progression thing, but that's really it.
>>340467805
She isn't
The only good KH game is KH1.
Why didn't we get this video.
>>340469341
Japan hates us
>>340469327
KH 2 FM was the best one
So ehats up with Sora not being a legit keyblade master? Or am i misremembering the end of 3D?
>>340469327
Birth By Sleep is good
>>340469803
Sora's pretty powerful but he failed the Mark of Mastery test as it was administered by Yen Sid. They had specific goal to accomplish and really only Riku managed it. But it really wasn't Sora's fault. The test was fucked from the jump by Xehanort.
>>340469803
He wasn't able to properly finish his exam, so he didn't earn the right to be Masterbut he will in KH 3
>>340469803
pretty sure nomura said he'll be a master by the beginning of 3
>>340469967
>>340469973
Pretty messed yp considering all we've seen him go through. Though Riku's end fight was fun as shit.
>>340470114
apparently yen sid is a stickler for rules
>>340464364
I think it was said that the versions of him lose their memories when they return to the time they came from
>>340470198
Well whatever. I feel likenhe doesn't emgive a shit about the title itself. Nigga just wants his friends back and safe. Waht do you think their parents have been doing this whole time?
>>340470395
Are you drunk?
>>340470204
They memories are "etched" into his heart. He forgets it but kinda remembers there are other worlds out there.
>>340468265
>>340468287
>>340468316
>>340468467
Regardless of what animal it is.
The one main thing i put together is the fact that Xehanort is AGAIN involved/associated with being apart of a 'collective'.
The first time it was the Foretellers, Next it was Organization 13.
He might of had some hand in creating the Foretellers to do the same thing he had planed with Organization 13.
He might not be the Master of Masters. But signs are all pointing to the fact that he has probablly been alive and reincarnated for a very long time.
>>340470114
The earning of the title was based of their performance on the test, not their past accomplishments
>>340470462
I just woke up actually. And I'm a filthy phone poster.
>>340470592
Yeah i get that. Which ones are keyblade masters so far? Just Riku?
>>340470523
I just realized his keychain matches the others perfectly.
>>340470523
Not really? Anon, again you're making some reaches. You're putting a lot of emphasis on the goat/ram/lion keyblade when it can be just as simple as it being passed down through the ages and him possibly stealing it, which has been implied in cutscenes/trailers.
>>340470686
Just Mickey Riku and Aqua I think
>>340470686
>>340470815
Aqua, Mickey, Riku, Yen Sid (Retired), Xehanort, Eraqus (lol, Blank Points). Terra is Master level in power, he just doesn't have the title.
Whatever happened to Terra Xehanort?
>>340467603
The pods I'm referring to are in the world that never was, in the very last room before you fight Chernobog. There's a big wall of text when you examine them, but I don't know what it was implying.
>>340470686
>>340470815
If you only count the active Keyblade wielders it's Mickey, Aqua and Riku.
Nomura said that Sora will also be a master when 3 starts.
Yen Sid is also a Keyblade Master but is retired.
Then there's Xehanort for the Darkness side
>>340470980
we don't know yet, but I'd imagine he's one of the new Org members
>>340470980
You mean from the time before he lost his memories?
Will probably be a part of the new Org 13
>>340470815
>>340470924
>>340471019
Thanks fellas. So why did Sora turn into just one of the shadow heartless at Hollow Bastion? Is it relative to the darkness he had?
>>340470980
3D is vague on this. Lorewise when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated he should have come back. But we don't see him. It's possible that Master Xehanort was time traveling during that scene and he's keeping Terranort underwraps or Master Xehanort split from Terra. It's weird and there are a couple of other theories.
>>340471158
Pretty much.
>>340469601
Kh2 would feel a lot better if the main game wasn't stuffed with reaction commands. FM bosses are fantastic tho and redeem the game.
>>340471254
Glad my assumption was correct. So whats Kairi's deal? Saw her with a keyblade for a bit. And the Princesses of Heart? Who all were they? Think they're coming back into play ever?
>>340471660
Kairi's a keyblade wielder now for reasons.
>>340469341
what video is this?
>>340471660
The Princesses of Heart are the female characters in the series who have 0 darkness in their hearts. Darkness in one's heart is an inherent trait for everyone in the series except for them and Ven for time but he was still born with it and the fact that Xehanort ripped it out of him left him near death.
> Think they're coming back into play ever?
The 7 lights who have been mentioned are standing in for the Princesses so that Xehanort doesn't go after him. Xehanort has pretty much set it up so that he gets his way no matter what.
>>340471814
It's either that or be helpless.
>>340471921
It was never released to the public fully.
>>340471660
The princesses are irrelevant.
Kairi is a Keyblade wielder because she met with Aqua before she met Sora and Riku and Aqua blessed her or something (don't remember the details)
>>340471660
>And the Princesses of Heart? Who all were they?
You saw them all in KH1
Cinderella, Aurora, Snow White, Alice, Jasmine, Belle, Kairi.
They're the seven pure hearts of light in the entire World.
They have a background importance moving forward as Xehanort's plan requires seven lights.
The Guardians of Light (re: Sora and friends) are standing in for the Princesses in order to protect them.
Basically Xehanort's put them in a position where no matter what they do, they give him what he wants.
>>340471660
she touched Aqua's keyblade on accident when Aqua was protecting her back in the day and then she awakened it in KH2
DDD secret ending shows her being brought in to Yen Sid for training but I doubt Nomura will put her on the level of the others
>>340472015
Kairi is a wield now because she met both of the general requirementsbefore anyone asks, Sora is the exception to these two ruleswhich were: Have a strong hearts and be passed on the ability. Aqua accidentally passed it own onto Kairi in BbS when Kairi touched her keyblade.
>>340472127
>but I doubt Nomura will put her on the level of the others
he almost certainly will, or at least pretty close
>>340472015
Ah i remember them meeting in Radiant Garden.
>>340471814
Thanks.
Think Zack will show up again?;_;
>>340471660
Aqua meant to place a protection charm on Kairi, and wound up accidentally performing the Inheritance ceremony on her...somehow.
This is why Kairi's keyblade is the exact same keychain you get as Aqua after you meet her.
>>340472163
to one of the rules*
My bad.
>>340470792
I forgot about that trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKo4BgDnlfQ
But listen to that little old asshole. It sounds like he knows what the fuck is up for being so young.
>>340472228
I'm sure she'll get her moment of asskicking but to put her on equal footing as Sora/Riku/Terra/Aqua/Mickey/etc would be a bit of a stretch in logic
>>340472228
He shouldn't, really. Riku and especially Sora are reaching that level of OP where they're overpowered even in their own universe.
>>340472230
Maybe. Maybe we'll see him interact with Cloud and the others
>>340472235
Two slightly different contexts anon. The protection charm was to lead her to a light that would keep her safe, which it did.
>>340472276
He's proably just cocky. Actually Ben Diskin, his VA, was told to sound uncertain in 3D.
>>340472403
Kairi is the third strongest person on Destiny Islands. She has tons of power, she just hasn't had a chance to use it.
>>340472596
hopefully its magic power
>>340472452
That would be fun. Setzer was the biggest diaappointment in my opinion. Who are some FF characters you guys wanna see? Feel like Steiner would be cool to see again.
>>340472496
Yes. Aqua placed the charm on her, and fucked up when Kairi touched her keyblade, causing an unintentional Inheritance ceremony. That's what I'm saying. How the fuck it WAS a ceremony when it wasn't at all intentional is a fucking mystery, but we'll never get that context because "literally who cares" is a pretty typical response about it.
>>340472596
Personally I'd like to see her properly trained by Aqua as her magic successor, having Yen Sid/Mickey/Riku training her feels like a wasted opportunity
>>340472496
>Probably just a little shit
Good point, Either way now i'm interested in seeing who Old Xehanorts VA is going to be now the Leonard Nimoy has passed away intoKingdom Hearts
>>340472825
Oh I see what you were saying. I though you were conflating the too. My bad.
absolute dumb question
could Xehanort name be an anagram for
X No Heart?
How will they put Noctis into the game?
Secret boss? Party member like Auron? Just a NPC like Cloud and Squall?
>>340473084
yes, not sure if this is foreshadowing or just a little easter egg though
>>340472825
One of the things I actually like about Kingdom Hearts is that the "rules" regarding magic aren't set in stone. Sometimes weird shit just happens. Like Namine, she's just a weird unique kind of Nobody that popped up and no one knows what her deal is.
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuuH_k_gSTA
>>340473084
Yes. Also: No Earth.This has been known for years but it's okay anon.Fun fact the Keyblade Xehanort would come to use is the only one in the Foreteller "set" that doesn't have a heart.
>>340473084
Welcome to years ago
>>340472896
Didn't they have someone sub in for him in one of the games already or am I thinking of another character?
>>340460315
Aqua vs Lightning needs to happen
>>340470523
I'm surprised none of these guys were made into a secret bossfight for DDD like Terra was for 2.
>>340459812
I'm already half-Xehanort, does that count?
>>340473249
Corey Burton has been doing Christopher Lee's Ansem the Wise for several games, but Master Xehanort's only been in two games and both times he was Leonard Nimoy. It's a shame because they can't just get Corey Burton to do it. His old man voice doesn't fit.
>>340472825
That really does make it sound like anyone could just fucking do a running dive and touch a Master's keyblade and force the inheritance ceremony.
It probably has some dumb hidden requirement they haven't explained fully though.
>>340473245
man i hope we get some more ballin armor in 3
>>340473084
No Heart
No Earth
On Heart/Earth
Another
>>340473239
i literally never played kingdom hearts, but that for some reason really stuck out, like glaringly.
I plan on actually getting into playing the series.
>>340473245
>this is supposed to be Xehanort's armor
>it has the Nobody emblem before Nobodies were a thing
>>340473498
Happy hunting anon. And it's totally been planned out. Even the No Earth thing is reference to what happened to one of the protags.
>>340473567
The funniest part is that Xemnas came up with the symbol.
>>340473567
he probably just based the nobody symbol on his armor, someone had to make it
>>340473245
This reminds me. Will they use their power ranger armor now in 3?
>>340473456
Strength of heart is obvious. That probably is just the main requirement, though, since Sora was able to take Riku's first keyblade.
>>340473220
I agree, but that also means hard rules need to fucking stop happening because they're continuously thrown out the window, and it's getting fucking aggravating how often it happens.
>>340472930
It's alright, anon. The scene itself brought a fuck ton of confusion when it first came out, so it's common to have things explained seem off to many and cause confusion of context.
What the fuck is 2.8?
>>340473667
the only reason I'm even starting now at all times because after seeing kingdom hearts fans getting trolled to shit with the wait for KH3 I just waited it out until it's official.I don't want to deal with another TWEWY
>>340473850
a number between 2.7 and 2.9
>>340473850
What the fuck is a basic google search or even just reading the thread?
>>340473850
1. A remake of the 3DS game to finally put every game on a Sony home console for good
2. Kingdom Hearts: Ground Zeroes
3. A movie showing the distant prologue of the entire series.
>>340473245
God damn is No Heart the best fucking boss fight just behind Terra's armor.
The first time he started kickboxing me to death I got harder than diamond. His fight was octane as fuck as Terra.
>tfw finishing off every boss in BbS with Zantetsuken
>>340457742
http://www.wildfaery.com/shop/en/41-kingdom-hearts-orchestra-world-tour-
To VIP or to not VIP?
>>340473249
Have no idea, Haven't really kept up with all of the details for a while now.
>>340473321
If you played BBS it makes sense that Sora fights Terra.
Long story short, A character named Vanitas (Who looks like sora (google it), How this comes to be when BBS takes place before KH1 is anyone's Guess, Probably time travel. I'm not joking)
Vanitas basically makes life hell for Terra in BBS. Then after Terra fights Xehanort, Terra Loses his body and Xehanort steals it, And then becomes Young Xehanort. (Which is why of course Terra and YX look so alike)
The only thing Terra's Heart/soul has to attach to is his armor.
So Terra's (In a Ghost Armor form) fights Sora because he think's he's Vanitas.
Don't know why they didn't put this originally in KH2.
>>340473949
Well, you're in luck. If you have a PS3, you can get the HD collections of all six games on two discs. And with 2.8 coming out, you'll get the last bits you'll need for KHIII. It's actually a pretty good time to dive into the series.
>>340474390
>Don't know why they didn't put this originally in KH2.
Noruma literally makes this up as he goes along
>>340474390
Young Xehanort is a different character. You're thinking of Apprentice Xehanort.
This series is stupid.
>>340459812
Everyone including your grandma sophie.
Do not trust her, She is already 25% Xehanort.
>>340459812
We're all half Xehanort on the inside.
>>340474390
>And then becomes Young Xehanort.
That's not what happened.
>So Terra's (In a Ghost Armor form) fights Sora because he think's he's Vanitas.
No? Here's LW's quote:
>Aqua...Ven...A Keyblade? Who are you? I know you. We've met before, way back when. No, that wasn't you. You're not the one I chose. Where is he? Xe...ha...nort... Is that you? Xeha...nort... Xehanort!"
He intially thought Sora was Riku, but finds that he isn't. And seeing that he knows that it isn't Aqua, Ven, or Eraqus he jumps to the next person knew with a keyblade.
>>340474390
>How this comes to be when BBS takes place before KH1 is anyone's Guess
Did everyone skip Ven's intro holy shit?
>>340474390
Terra never saw Vanitas's face.
Also he did not become Young Xehanort.
>>340474390
How did you manage to be this wrong?
>>340473382
Get Fred Tatasciore.
>>340474558
>>340474558
Forgot both of these things. It's crazy i remember any of this shit though, Just because i usually don't give a fuck about jap RPG story details to begin with.
Might be because Kingdom hearts was actually my first PS2 game i had ever played. (BBS is still my favorite)
Anyone else here get 'touched' by KH1 when they were young?
I literally bought the game based off of the cover art having no idea what the fuck it was about.
>>340474745
I swear a lot of people did. There's a question about this at least once a thread.
>>340474918
I bought (well, my parents bought) the game based on that hype as fuck original commercial. I had no idea what I was seeing but the second Simple and Clean came on I knew I had to have it.
>>340474745
Expecting anyone to remember every detail about the kingdom hearts series is asking way to much as it is.
Also terra was gullible turd in the beginning anyways.
Why the fuck would you believe a bald guy you just met, And then kill your master just because 'I'm not the bad guy, He is- listen to me you retard."
>>340474827
I'm going based off of memory, I'm not surprised i'm wrong about any of this.
>>340475217
>Expecting anyone to remember every detail about the kingdom hearts series is asking way to much as it is.
How the fuck do you forgot THE BEGINNING of a characters story? I could understand if it was something in one of the stupid little disney worlds but come on
>>340475217
Not to mention
>"Wow, my inner darkness sure screwed things up in this world. Better not let that happen again. Now I'll just leave without trying to fix it or anything."
>next world
>"Wow! You can really teach me how to use my darkness?"
>>340475498
I think it was the fact that i didn't like terra in the beginning. Riku at least tried to fight the dark side continuously.
>>340475643
But Terra isn't Ven though.
>>340460315
Jesus Christ I hope not.
It's incredible how much of a nice treatment she got with THREE fucking games given how terrible of a character she is
>>340474390
>So Terra's (In a Ghost Armor form) fights Sora because he think's he's Vanitas.
Dude literally says 'hey are you riku no you aren't you must be xehanort fuck you'
>>340475643
Terra thought the way he was using darkness was the right way. He was using it to protect his friends
>>340475771
Blame Toriyama. He's legit in love with her.
>>340457742
I have a question.
Why are they removing Reaction Commands from 3?
>>340475924
Because people didn't like them/they got flack for them.
>>340475924
Do you see the amount of people saying "KH2 just PRESS TRIANGLE TO WIN!!!1"?
im not confused, it seems they are doubling down on the stupid elements and pushing away from the things people actually liked about this series.
>>340476004
>>340476021
But they were________________fun_____________
>>340476025
Like?
>>340475715
You know what i fucking give up for now. I think i'm going to go watch all of the Cutscenes from BBS again to try and get my shit straight.
Good thread though guys, Haven't talked about anything seriously in /v/ for a while now.
>>340476025
You're not everybody.
>>340476109
It's alright anon. That's why the thread is here. To get this shit straight.
>>340474390
it wasn't put in kh2 because when kh1 came out for america, we for some reason decided to add 4 secret bosses to the game which the japanese release, which was released months before the NA release, did not have. So when japan found out, they got pissed and made the final mix versions. that's why stuff like the Lingering Will was never put in the originals and was only in the versions made for japan only. before the hd collections came out.
>>340476092
This guy know's whats up.
>>340475924
Because Osaka team a worst team
>>340476381
You do realize the game that got the most shit over RCs was 2 right? And that was a Tokyo team game. Or were you just trying to stir shit?
>>340476092
I know I love them and I will miss them dearly
>>340476442
Tokyo team is good and so are Reaction Commands
>>340474664
>thats nuts
Hey at least hes saying what we're all thinking.
>>340476279
The original Final Mix exists because the U.S. version had extra content true, but KH2FM exists basically because they didn't have enough time to implement everything they wanted with the original. You can find interviews from around the time of KH2's original release where Nomura talks about having wanted to put a room with rematches against the Organization and other stuff that eventually got put into FM.
>>340476480
Looking back on it now, There are very few games that get this crazy with cinematics.
Probably DMC or Beyonetta are the only ones i can think of.
>>340471972
is there a synopsis for what was shown in that video some where?
>>340476628
I don't believe so.
The definitive /v/ timeline for KH, ver 0.2
===ANCIENT PAST===
Literally hundreds/thousands of guys with keyblades
One master, six disciples/apprentices, a bunch of other subordinate p2w losers
Big scary book with a bunch of foreboding predictions about a traitor and a war
When stuff pertaining to all the doom & gloom predictions starts happening, all of a sudden those pages are missing from the book
All hell breaks loose as people try to figure out what the hell's going on, who the traitor is, etc.
Some catastrophe involving Kingdom Hearts happens. Not revealed yet, will probably be in 2.8
.
===TEN YEARS BEFORE KH1(BbS)===
"Keyblade War" has become stuff of legend
Few wielders left; follows a master-apprentice tradition
Masters: Xehanort, Yen Sid, and Eraqus("square" backwards, a play on yensid)
Yen Sid and Eraqus think the keyblade war is a cautionary tale about letting darkness get out of hand
Xehanort is like fuck that and thinks that the balance between light and dark has been upset, in light's favor
Gets obsessed with finding the secret behind Kingdom Hearts
Finds out the ultimate secret mcguffin to unlock the "True 100% no foolin" KH is something called the X-blade
X-blade can be made by combining a heart of pure light and an equal heart of pure darkness
Xehanort master plan: engage
Master Xehanort(MX) takes on "apprentice" (Ventus) but really intends to use him as a guinea pig to create the X-blade
When Ven's heart is split into light/dark halves, the light half is pathetically weak and almost dies
MX master plan: failure
MX takes Ven to his homeworld(which turns out to be Destiny Islands, surprise!) to die in peace, but his heart inexplicably connects to Sora's and manages to heal itself
MX takes light!Ven to Eraqus to train him up while he trains dark!Ven("Vanitas")
Ven grows up with the apprentices Eraqus already had -- Terra and Aqua
>>340476338
>fighting all of the Heartless on Level 1 Critical Mode without using Reaction Commands at all
God fucking damn.
>>340476802
So much wrong in one post. I'm actually impressed
Is it me or did Aced look like he had really sharp incisors?
>>340457742
Why would sora and riku want to forget the skills they've been honing for three games?
>>340476802
PART TWO
MX master plan is a go again
MX realizes that all this shit is probably going to take too long for him to see it because he's already an old fart
While MX is over at Eraqus' place, he sees what a hot piece of ass Terra is and makes a mental note to steal his bod l8r so he can be young again
Time passes, Terra and Aqua get old enough to try Mastery Exam
MX comes to "witness" but is secretly there to fuck with Terra's exam so he fails
Eraqus being the moralfag he is scolds Terra for having darkness in his heart which just causes him to slide further into darkness where MX is waiting
After the exam MX mysteriously "disappears" and Eraqus sends Terra and Aqua out to investigate
Ven's supposed to say behind because he's still a kid but he's like fuck that and runs away anyway
Eventually MX is found but he claims that the reason he disappeared is because he's been searching for Vanitas, who has "escaped" and is "out of control"
Really the whole thing is MX's ruse cruise to toughen up Ven and get Terra to succumb to darkness so MX can jump his bones
Somehow Eraqus is so fucking inept that he plays right into MX's scheme and never considers MX might be the bad guy until it's way too late
Eventually MX succeeds in merging Ven/Vanitas, the X-blade is forged, and he successfully possesses Terra
However, Ven manages to fight Vanitas from within, causing the X-blade to deteriorate.
Ven's heart is still fucked up from Vanitas so he's put in stasis by Aqua
Terranort fucks off but Aqua manages to catch up and confronts him in Radiant Garden
Terranort is defeated, but Aqua can't just let her friend die so she saves him and falls into the Realm of Darkness as a result. She's been there all this time and that's what 0.2 is about.
Terranort lives but the thrashing leaves him amnesiac; this is the "Xehanort" you know from KH II
Also Mickey was around for ALL OF THIS yet somehow he doesn't seem to have any of this knowledge in the original games
>>340476982
it was just a temporary thing for the exam
>>340476926
Literally why the fuck would you do that to yourself?
>>340476995
PART THREE
===KINGDOM HEARTS, CoM, and II===
Not doing this, you should already know this stuff
.
===Days===
lol
.
===DDD===
Some contrived plot device causes everyone to suddenly remember/be aware of what happened in BbS(I think this is technically coded but whatever)
It turns out that when a person's heartless and nobody are both defeated, the original person is reformed
Yen Sid calls Sora and Riku to do a proper Mark of Mastery exam to prepare for the final confrontation with Xehanort
TIME TRAVEL
This is really where the "everyone is Xehanort" thing gets to absurd levels
The reformed Xehanort is apparently already back and gained time travel powers or something
He and his younger self have been kicking it through the ages, assembling the league of extraordinary Xehanort clones
Apparently MX's original plan to create the X-blade was just a MASSIVE RUSE CRUISE
In fact, everything that ever happened in the original KH and II were just part of MX's ultimate plan to trick people into ever caring about this series
The REAL way to make the X-blade is to combine 7 lights and thirteen darknesses.
The real purpose of Org. XIII was to make thirteen Xehanort clones for the "thirteen darknesses" part
Despite the obvious princesses of heart parallel, the "seven lights" have nothing to do with them and are yet to be fully determined
MX, being the disgusting pedophile that he is, wanted to get all up inside Sora and make him the thirteenth Xehanort clone
The power of friendship stops this from happening
Also Sora fails the exam at the end, but he decides to persevere anyway, the cuck
>>340477134
Because using Forms was the best part of KH2.
>>340476618
They used contemporary technology to make as big of a spectacle as possible. They went all-out with their intended design, which most devs are too lazy to do.
>>340476982
Because Yen Sid's an elitist prick who thinks Command Bar is somehow better than the Command Menu
>>340460315
God I hope not.
>>340457742
Where did Riku get that flower keyblade in 2? He kind of just pulled it out of his ass.
I want Aqua playable in KH 3
I also want Wila Holland to take acting lessons because
>fairWELL?
still sounds bad
>>340477206
Oh, in that case you still were kind of being a cheesy motherfucker if you spammed Sonic Blade against those heartless
>>340476982
Because they were 100% self taught and never learned how to actually use the damned Keyblades outside of "SWING FASTER/HARDER" and "Time to seal some keyholes / unlock travel points between worlds!'. Their style was too wild and, while it did work, wasn't going to if it meant fighting an actual fucking Keyblade Master.
So Yen Sid had them retrain basically from the beginning so they would learn how to use the Keyblade. Sora failed to do so, which is why he ultimately failed the test--he failed the objective and once again just did his usual thing. He didn't learn SHIT.
Riku, meanwhile, did, and that's why he already was going to pass--the extra shit was icing on the cake.
>>340477134
Challenge. Like beating every possible boss in Anti-Form.Don't fucking do it, it isn't at all worth the trouble and stress
>>340477356
I'm pretty sure they're just reusing the audio from BBS. Infact, I'm positive they're reusing the audio.
>>340477356
>I also want Wila Holland to take acting lessons because
She's actually gotten a lot better.
>fairWELL?
Maybe they just took that clip from BbS?
>>340476995
>>340477171
I'm not going to read all of that shit so if anyone is wondering i'm sure these videos in the playlist will answer any questions you guys have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY&list=PL4bXdhSRyr42ROlKgh1Ds_cU_HOHKYsy4
>>340477352
>Sora goes around from world to world getting different keyblades but for some reason Riku pulling out a different one is pulling it out his ass
One question. What the fuck order do I play these in?
There's so many games and their titles make no sense at all. 2.5HD remix? What the fuck does that even mean?
What games can I skip entirely and which are absolutely necessary?
>>340476954
I actually don't know that much about DDD and next to nothing about X but I figured autists will correct it for me
>>340477580
Sora just straps new keychains to his keyblade, he doesn't actually pick up a new blade
>>340477580
There's a difference between switching the keychain, which is what's happening in KH1 and KH2, and having a whole sepaarate keyblade. The rule is one heart = one keyblade.
>>340477667
just play through the 3 remixes in order
>>340477740
Except for when he does.
>>340477667
Chronological release, always
The 1.5, 2.5 etc are basically remasters/compilations and work well enough for playing the games
>>340477670
>autists
Now you just seem bitter.
>>340477667
Read the thread.
>>340477667
Release basically
>>340459026
Why arent Sora Goofy and Donald listen as best friends?
>>340460315
Noooooooooooooo~~~
When can we update from v2.8 to 3.0?
>>340457742
>You get to play as Aqua at some point in the new game
I was sold on that.
Worth £60
>>340477352
Maybe he just found it like how Mickey found Kingdom Key D? It's still unclear exactly how one GETS a Keyblade. We've only ever seen Sora actually receive his and even he was a special case.
>>340478109
Fuck that, I want to play as all 3 of them again. Terra had the best combos.
>>340477171
>===Days===
>lol
>>340477667
Release order.
>What games can I skip entirely
None of them
Except Days
>which are absolutely necessary?
All of them
Except Days
Just pick up the collections (1.5, 2.5, 2.8)
Days and Re:coded are summarized through cutscene movies instead of actually being games
2.8 features χ Back Cover, which isn't the same as the story in χ[chi]/Unchained χ, so you may want to play that as well.
>>340466856
>Not even memories... are safe in the darkness.
How the fuck is a keyblade an effective weapon? Do they even have sharp edges?
>>340457742
Can you explain EVRYTHING? And when I mean EVERYTHING I mean EVERYTHING.
>>340478576
2.8 will come out this year.
Fuck i am so ready for another crazy ass KH experience.
>>340478690
They're magic, you dingus.
>>340457742
my only question is am I missing out on cannon story parts since I only played 1&2, none of the small spinoffs
>>340478928
Yes. And they are not spinoffs.
>>340478690
I depends. Some of them have actual blades in them and some are more blunt type of weapons. And it looks like going by Sora in KH2 he an make a blade of light come out the end according to some of his RCs/Finishers.
>>340478928
Almost all games are story important/canon.
> small spinoffs
Unless you mean something like Vcast you kind of answered your own question.
>You will never get to be a real keyblade wielder
>>340478928
there are no spinoffs
>>340477573
>don't read a few pages of text, watch this hour-long video instead!
>>340457742
Okay OP, here's my question.
Why should I give a fuck about this bullshit if anything else than KH1 and KH2 isn't cannon?
>>340478986
>>340479087
>>340479261
well fuck now i gotta read up on what i missed out
>>340479375
see >>340479261
I don't know where you got that from, but every game has plot significance, and is canon.
>>340479375
Anon, this bait is stale already. You tried it more than 1 thread this week.
>>340477356
>>340477495
They definitely are. You're right anon. Same audio for combat. Listen to it as she fights those heartless.
>>340478757
Uh, alright. Everything? Well, okay, so...
The Walt Disney Company was founded in 1923 by Walt Disney. It was an animation studio that produced silent cartoons that usually aired before films in theaters. Their first shorts featured a live action actress playing the role of Alice interacting with drawn cartoon characters. However, these productions were costly and after some time, the general populace lost interest in the Alice shorts. Instead, Walt focused on creating entirely animated shorts starring a character named Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. 26 Oswald shorts were produced, but sadly Walt lost the contract to Oswald in 1928 and as a result could no longer produce them. Instead, Walt focused on a new character he first dubbed Mortimer Mouse. However, his wife didn't like the name "Mortimer" and he thus changed it to Mickey...
>KH2.8HDREMIX
You faggots will gobble down literally all the shit they give you.
>>340479375
Because all of it is canon
>>340479492
He's posted that multiple times in the past month. Ignore it.
>>340479535
Go on...
>>340479562
2/3 of it is entirely new content, and 3d was missed by many since it was a 3ds game
>>340477856
Do you think I mean that in any truly disparaging way after I myself just took an hour to type out that whole monstrosity? I was just trying to start a template that wouldn't immediately cause the average casual running in the other direction, like most KH timeline summaries.
>>340479562
>a game l never played
>a new chapter with best girl
>a movie of the mobile world l'm currently playing
Why wouldn't l get it, faggot?
>>340479562
It literally has a new game and additional information. And opposed to contrary belief, not everybody has or wants a 3DS for Kingdom Hearts alone.
>>340479701
Alright then anon. I take it back.
>>340457742
Here's my question: why do people like these games?
>>340479878
They're fun
>>340479701
>Taking a hour long to post something on /v/
You should know better by now.
>>340479652
Well, after a few years of producing Mickey shorts under the brand "Silly Symphonies", Walt wanted to push the boundaries of animation. In 1934, he began production on a theatrical adaptation of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. After three years, it was finally premiered. Following that, he produced several more films, Pinnochio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi.
As the years went on, the studio produced more and more shorts, and more movies. New characters like Donald Duck, Goofy, Pluto, Minnie Mouse, and Daisy Duck were introduced in shorts alongside Mickey. The Walt Disney Company grew even more as their cartoons proved to be tremendous successes. In the 1950's, the theme park Disneyland was opened...
What is the best minigame in KH?
I would say it's either spaceship shooting in KH2 or tabletop game in BBS.
>>340480451
You understand that I fully expect you to go into Japan, Square, Nomura and finally the actual plot right?
So wait is the story supposed to be shipping Ephemera with Skuld or Ava?
>>340480607
That tabletop game was surprisingly enjoyable. Most the games in the Hundred Acre Woods in KH1 and KH2 were fun too.
>>340479878
They are fun games with good controls and also Mickey Mouse is your friend in it.
>>340480737
I'd say Ava at this point.
>>340480607
My love of playing KH Monopoly in BBS is admittedly a little too unhealthy
>>340479878
It's fun
>>340480607
BBS monopoly was actually kinda fun
>>340457742
Played KH1-1.5, CoM, KH2, and BbS Terra & Aqua's chapters only.
So what did I miss in Ventus' storyline and is 358/2 a necessity to watch?
Sucks that my PS3 broke before I could play KH2.5.PS4 collection when?
>>340481376
You miss how Sora and Ven are connected, why Vanitas is a cunt, and Xehanort's first attempt at making the X blade.
>>340480682
So the company continued to grow as decades went on, creating a wide expanse of films and cartoons, even branching off into live action productions. To this day, the Walt Disney Company is one of the largest corporations in the WORLD, flat-out purchasing the rights to such titans like Marvel Comics and Star Wars. Disney merchandise can be found in nearly every country of the world, and while it reigns supreme in America, it also has a significant following in Japan.
Speaking of Japan, in 1983, Masahashi Miyamoto founded Square, a computer game company. While Disney was putting out The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and The Lion King, Square was putting out Final Fantasy, a groundbreaking RPG series that spanned over ten games by 2000.
It was around that time that fate would strike.
>>340481643
Square wanted to produce a game that could rival Super Mario 64 in freedom of movement. However, they also knew that the only way they could have a character to match Mario in popularity would be to use Disney characters. As luck would have it, a chance meeting in an elevator between Shinji Hashimoto and a Disney executive got the ball rolling on a partnership between the two companies. Tetsuya Nomura volunteered to direct the game and the two companies go to work discussing and designing the game that would be known as Kingdom Hearts, released on the Playstation 2 in 2002.
>>340482142
Now read these
>>340477171
>>340476995
>>340476802
Any questions?
>>340475217
Terra didn't kill his master and he only fought him because Eraqus tried to kill him first
>>340482356
That's what made the first sentence in his post funny
>>340478690
They mostly fight against shadows so having magic key weapons isn't all that dumb
I haven't touched this series in forever. Is there a simple plot summary somewhere to get caught up?
>>340479878
Gameplay and spectacle combat. Also the atmosphere is really fucking weird, but it's easy to get invested in while you're playing. It might sound stupid on paper but that's because the premise is really stupid, but you get to like it.
Was he the real hero all along?
>>340477171
Oh also I forgot, there's some hints that point to the original keyblade war being a result of Xehanort's time shenanigans. Basically the entire plot of KH is Xehanort's insane stable timeloop masterplandonutsteal
>>340483203
not sure yet
>>340483203
No. Ugh. God no. No, he's literally trying to start a war just to see what would happen.
>>340479878
the gameplay can reach 10/10, everything is else drek we drudge through
>>340483274
I mean if light being too prevalent was actually as big an issue on a universal scale as he believed it to be, then everything he did was pretty justifiable. Everyone else's grievances seem pretty small in comparison. There's also not much reason to not believe what he says considering he is the single most knowledgeable person in his entire universe.
>>340483428
Well not really a war. He's just organizing the battle of not even 20 people who would probably end up fighting and killing each other anyway given their loyalties.
>>340469341
Same reason we never got the full D23 trailer for KH3, fuck the gaijins.
>>340483575
Eh, it can be a bit of a corn fest, but I'm not sure if I'd describe the experience as a drudge. I do genuinely like some of the characters and the lore. Though I admit the plot took a pretty huge dive in DDD.
>>340482956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY
>>340484235
>1 hour long
well.. thanks for trying anon
So just to be sure i have this right.
KH 2.8 begins right after BBS. Where Terra-Xehanort kicks Aqua's ass, She then makes a sanctuary to protect Ven, And then after that- Falls into the Realm of darkness.
https://youtu.be/xm-NoyqzGkY?list=PL4bXdhSRyr42ROlKgh1Ds_cU_HOHKYsy4&t=2161
So what the fuck sends her into the realm of darnkess, Did she create the Sanctuary in the Realm of Darkness, Or did she do it BEFORE she got sent to the realm of Darkness.
Was it her getting her ass kick that sent her to the realm of darkness or something else?
>>340479878
Crossover wetdream
Fun spectacle gameplay
Proud/Critical modes designed to be challenging
Fluid controls
Memorable characters
Memorable quotes
Timeless graphics
One of the best OSTs in the gaming industry
>>340484518
So when people die (maybe by keyblade?), They don't actually die- They get sent to the realm of Darkness?
>>340484476
Any other summary you'll find will either
>be incorrect
or
>skip things
And those aren't really good for a summary.
Reminder that it's attempting to summarize the events of seven (7) RPGs.
There's a lot of plot to cover.
>>340484518
Whaa? No man, she got sent into the Realm of Darkness because she dived in after Terra. After Terra released his heart with his keyblade or whatever, a portal appeared beneath his feet and he began sinking into the darkness as a result of losing his heart. Aqua jumped in after him, sent him back up to the Realm of Light, and stayed behind in the Realm of Darkness.
>>340484518
BbS 0.2 starts after BbS:FM's Secret Episode. This is pretty much what happened. >>340485014
>>340484716
No, people can still straight up die. Lady Tremaine and the wicked stepsisters, plus Clayton, they all flat-out died. Hell, Hades is the Lord of the Dead. It's just with the Keyblade and hearts and all, lots of characters are removed or incapacitated by being placed in a state that is similar to death.
>>340484476
>Implying an hour isn't short by these standards
>>340484476
You know there are like 8 games that are all canon, right? all of them are between 20-40 hours long, getting a great, correct explanation in an hour is amazing.
>>340485014
Okay, Thank you for clearing that up.
Jesus christ this there is so much fucking homework for figuring out anything in Kingdom hearts.
I think this is the right video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG2-YbNYnW0
>>340485787
theres actually a secret episode after that where you play as Aqua in the realm of darkness and ends when she stumbles upon the castle
>>340485787
This is what this >>340485952 anon is talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVgwtWz-mNk
>>340485787
Final Mix has a epilogue to that epilogue that shows the castle at the Very end before a mindscrew teaser about Dream Drop Distance.
>yfw Black coat never fights in the entire trailer
>except for some scene where they cut away from him having wrecked someone
Help
What the fuck was that trailer
What is all this BBS 0.2 and Back Cover and 2.8 shit
Are those all new games that I didn't pay attention to? Are they remakes? I never saw that scene with Aqua, has it already happened or is it a new game? Is any of this even out yet?Also why does Sora's voice actor sound different?
>>340486261
>Also why does Sora's voice actor sound different?
Because he's growing up. That man is 30 or something isn't he?
>>340486261
Read the thread for everything else.
>Also why does Sora's voice actor sound different?
It's still Haley he's just damn near 30 and they had him play 14 year Sora for the umpteenth time.
>>340486261
2.8 is a clooection just like 1.5 and 2.5
its got:
an hd remake of Dream Drop Distance
a small playable thing starring Aqua
a movie depicting the story of Unchained (the mobile game)
>>340486261
>BBS 0.2
Follows what Aqua did after BBS
>Back Cover and 2.8
Mega prequel that focuses on the build up to the Keyblade War. Some theorize that it's actual all a virtual simulation though.
>Sora's voice
haley joel osment ain't getting any younger.
>>340486261
>What is all this BBS 0.2 and Back Cover and 2.8 shit
2.8 is the collective name for its contents, like 1.5 and 2.5 before it.
>Are they remakes?
Dream Drop Distance HD is somewhere between a port and a remake.
0.2 is a brand-new playable episode.
χ Back Cover is a brand-new hour-long cinematic.
>>340486261
>What is all this BBS 0.2 and Back Cover and 2.8 shit
BBS 0.2 takes place immediately after the final episode in BBSFM. Think of it as the Ground Zeroes to KH3. It follows Aqua through the Realm of Darkness.
Back Cover is the mobile game but through the Foreteller perspective instead of the player's.
2.8 is the compilation of 0.2, Dream Drop Distance HD, and Back Cover.
>Are those all new games that I didn't pay attention to?
Only 0.2 is new.
>Are they remakes?
DDD HD is the remake.
>I never saw that scene with Aqua, has it already happened or is it a new game?
It's 0.2.
>Is any of this even out yet?
Release date was in the video.
>Also why does Sora's voice actor sound different?
HJO is getting pretty old and he's had to play a teenage Sora the entire time. Keep in mind that Sora is also aging so they can handwave it.
so i wonder if they will mention all the stuff that happened between KH2 and 3 in 3. I mean, most people probably will just play 1, 2, 3 - i imagine they would want to keep that narrative cohesive.
>>340486729
Did you just decide to not skim this thread?
>>340486729
lel
>>340486729
They didn't do it for KH2, why would they do it for KH3? Nobody can play 1 and jump right into 2, so why would anyone think they could play 2 and jump right into 3. What you're saying makes no sense.
>>340486657
Fuck
so 2.8 is everything? Will it have most of the shit that was in the video?
>>340486882
You will literally have everything shown in the video, I don't know why you think you wouldn't.
>>340486882
It will have everything that was in the video ya dumb dumb. The video was a trailer for 2.8
>>340486875
You could play 2 fine without having played CoM.
Yes a few things at the start are confusing and you're going to miss stuff related to the organization but you can still understand the plot without any real problems.
>>340486979
>>340486969
DAMN I'M A FUCKIN IDIOT AND DAMN I'M HYPE
>>340486875
You could play 2 with just 1 fine. It made sense with what you knew from KH1.
A lot has happened since 2, so I'm just wondering how they will handle it. I guess by pumping out remasters on the PS3 and prologues on PS4.
>>340487095
Now you just need to get behind the mobile game for the player's side of the Chi story.
>>340487232
Pretty sure Nomura straight up admitted the remasters were made so people could more easily get caught up before 3 (and money obviously)
>>340487261
>Player side of Chi
Yeah after like 300 missions
>>340487095
>>340487261
or skip the endless hours of senseless grinding and read a quick summary of the game when its over
I've never understood the problem with the games' stories. It's all there in the cutscenes. I get it perfectly. Of course I've also played all the games which I bet is the source of most people's problems.
>see new trailer
>KH Back cover
what the fuck is that
>>340487261
The existence of this game legitimately makes me want to choke Nomura into a coma.
>>340487663
The only way we'll be able to understand the plot of KH3 apparently.
>>340487647
Long gap between games, scattered availability, confusing naming
>>340487663
Movie for the important story portions for Chi so you don't have to play it.
>>340487647
People either 1. Just straight up don't pay attention or 2. Don't read the reports.
Those are the most 2 common issues that I've seen.
iirc the plot of Unchained/Chi isn't that important for anything. It just ends up detailing a bit about the keyblade war.
>>340487261
Goddamn, does Hades look real deranged, how anyone could think taking lessons from him was a good idea is a mystery to me
>>340488005
Even if that's true, it's possible that the real importance of the plot won't be apparent until KH3 through some huge reveal of something.
>>340488005
What do you mean iirc? Unchained/Chi isn't finished yet so how would you know what? And Nomura has already said that it will link to 3.
>>340488005
a black hooded figure showed up in trailer, which seems significant
>>340488146
Just trust him dude, what's the worst learning about darkness from the lord of the Underworld could do?
>>340487647
I don't pay attention and skip the cut scenes. I only play this series for Disney nostalgia and the Action JRPG gameplay. I don't care that much for the original story. I used to ten years ago. Now I'm old and really don't give a fuck anymore whether Sora and Kairi kiss.
>>340488920
>whether Sora and Kairi kiss
lol, this story has gone so far beyond that subplot that it's hard to recall a time when it was even a thing.
>>340482956
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8cPyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLWJjZTAtZTllODY2OTc2MTMx/edit?hl=en_US&pref=2&pli=1
>>340483203
He did nothing wrong.
>>340483203
Most likely.
>>340489228
>PyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLW
I love how this is a comprehensive summary but also complete nonsense
>>340457742
>bike shorts
muh dik
>>340489228
>>340489901
I guess the best part about kingdom hearts is that Nomura basically he is doing what ever he wants regardless of the rules.
The best example are probably the Nobodies.
Nomura has basically created his own Kingdom Hearts math.
Heart/Character + Bad Experiment = Fractured Heart/Character.
I guess that makes sense in a way.
why is there almost no good Aqua porn
this is my only question
>>340491910
because you only ask questions instead of learning to draw/animate and creating porn
>>340491910
Because most of the KH fanbase that can draw are Fujoshi
Why was there a card system in Castle Oblivion?
>>340479878
>Fun gameplay, great boss battles
>GOAT OSTs
>Dumb story but with likable characters you really feel for at times
>Didney Worls
>>340487261
>>340488146
>>340488287
Well there is a theory that PLAYER is actually the apprentice of the 6th apprentice.
>>340492364
They wanted to innovate with the handheld titles.
Plotwise what the cards actually do is allow you to manifest your memories.
It why it's a perfect defense and the Org can't find Ventus. Only Aqua knows what the room looks like.
