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KAIN REFUSED THE SACRIFICE
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KAIN REFUSED THE SACRIFICE
Kain refused the sacrifice

What went wrong?
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Personally loved playing this game as a kid
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KAIN IS DEIFIED
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Should have been longer.
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>>340426579
>What went wrong?

A bunch of ancient squid worshiping retards went into a religious war with some fucks who wanted to be left alone.
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Defiance happened, that's what.
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>>340426747
So did I. But, recently, I played all the LoK games in succession and found that Soul Reaver 2 was not as good as I remembered.

My gripes were mostly on the loads of combat sections and lack of "open world" structure the 1st game had.
Also it's really a short game compared to its predecessor
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>>340426813
THE CLANS TELL TALES OF HIM
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>>340427179
SR1 is strangely comfy
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>>340427309
Indeed. Also that OST is still GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYd2sA8OdU
>mfw I heard this in Defiance as well
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I remember playing the entire series a few years ago, and getting increasingly disappointed with each installment.
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>>340427179
Same here. Too much fighting, not enough puzzles, not enough shifting (because puzzles use items), going through the same environments 6 times with minimal changes. The story is its saving grace, but still it's not as well developed as it should (Raziel's rebellion happens too fast).
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>>340427231
/v/ KNOWS THE TRUTH
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>>340427036

What's your gripe with Defiance? I liked playing as Kain- and combat actually felt fun.

A shame it was never continued.
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>>340428281
Surely fighting is a better filler than block turning puzzles. I can't stand replaying SR because of its terrible puzzles.
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>>340426936
I think the squid wanted the fucks dead so the squid worshipers kinda had to do it.
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>>340428348
Story went full retard.
Terrible conclusion.
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>>340428492
It had to, after the Blood Omen 2 disaster.

DESU, they should've just ignored that game instead of trying to fix the plotholes it created
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>>340428492
Eh it was mostly fine I found.
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But was he deified?
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>>340426579
>KAIN REFUSED THE SACRIFICE
>Kain refused the sacrifice
BWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>340428492
Are you mad? Story was only getting better, the finale was absolutely fantastic.
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>>340426813
>>340427231
>>340428293
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>>340428492
>Story went full retard.

In what way? Because they ran out of time to address the plot holes BO2 introduced?
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Thanks for reminding me to continue playing the original Soul Reaver senpai

cool game
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Reminder that the only new game we're ever gonna get will be a reboot
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>>340429603
>Blood omen 1 remade
Why do you toy with my feelings so anon?
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>>340428436
But he wasn't even a real god

FALSE GOD
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Some of you guys are alright, don’t go to the time streaming chamber tomorrow
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>>340429603
>Tony Jay is dead
>Paul Lukather is dead
>Michael Bell and Richard Doyle are in their seventies
>Simon Templeman is at least in his sixties by now
>Amy Hennig will never work on the series again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ
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>When Nupraptor's poison seized Kain even in the safety of the womb, much more than just his destiny was lost.
>All of Nosgoth lost Balance. Consider us now... both of us less than we once were.
>I, pure but insubstantial; and Kain terribly real, but corrupted."
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How about new LoK by Platinum Games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LsTbaed0Q
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>>340430060

Amidst all this despair, I at least a little solace at seeing the "Nosgoth" game and this abomination erased

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBN8N2NXfi4

If I can't have a new game, at least let its legacy (heh) be fondly remembered
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>>340429710
This is one slippery mother fucker. Dude got a vampire to go back in time to cause a vampire genocide
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>>340430440
>dat fucking mary sue main character
>"Fuck you, vampire."
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>>340430060
Well, at least series is somewhat ended. It's not like we left without some important sequel. Kain got healed and got complete Reaver, so he'll just kick some hylden's ass and save Nosgoth.

I honestly prefer this franchise dead instead of some shitty modern "reboot".
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>>340430449
I think the best part was in soul reaver 2 where in the beginning he says he knew Raziel in life and they were even close friends. Then in the ending living Raziel comes in and fucks everything up for Raziel by the orders of Moebius.
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>>340430721
>Fuck you, vampire
MY NAME BY THE WAY IS ROZIEL BUT YOU CAN CALL ME ROZIEL THE SOUL REAVER HAS A NICE RING TO IT DONTCHATHINK?!
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Alas poor Nupraptor I knew him well.... well, not really.
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>>340430440
Why does everyone always bring up Dead Sun, but forgets about the true Defiance sequel?

Pic related is Dark Prophecy. It was supposed to continue from where Defiance ended and show Kain's battle against the Hylden, his journey in the Demon Realm (where he also would have met a twisted Janos Audron), his "meeting" with his young self and much more.

This is the Legacy of Kain game I want revived, not that Dead Sun shit, which was as bad as Nosgoth.
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>>340431818

I was just pointing out how a modern LoK "reboot" would look like. I do know that an actual sequel to Defiance was in production.

And now I'm sad again. Damn it.
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>>340431818
I've always wondered if, now that he was purified and Raziel was dead, Ariel would begrudgingly give advice to Kain from inside the Reaver.
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>>340431818
But if Amy Hennig left after Defiance then who was supposed to write Dark Prophecy? Because without her story will be just fanfiction tier anyway.
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Can someone give the lowdown on what Legacy of Kain is? All I know is, the first game is some top down looking thing and the sequel is a 3D action adventure game on Playstation, and was written by what's her face.
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>>340432229
She left three people she trusted in charge of it.

Two of them left the company and the third died in a car wreck.
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>>340431818
Man, how i wanted this game to be released. I loved the hylden stuff in BO2, the hylden city was one of my favorite levels in gaming. Too bad they killed this one ;_;
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>>340432336

Soul Reaver is edgy Zelda.
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>>340432336
I don't like your tone.
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>>340432336
Fakespeare-spouting vampires dealing with fate and destiny and shit. Fucking amazing casting and the best voice work you'll find in any viyda game. Lots of puzzles (some better than others), gory combat, having to drink people's blood/eat their souls to continue, and some great fucking music too.

They're very good games and I recommend you play them all in order. Yes, even BO2, which adds plot holes. That one's fun too.
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How do I into the LoK series? I've played a little of Soul Reaver over a decade ago but should I play Blood Omen first?
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>>340432535
You're talking about Darksiders.
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>buy the Soul Reaver collection on Steam
>no controller support

Fucking dropped. No way in hell I'm playing these games with a kbm control scheme
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>>340432682

>They're very good games and I recommend you play them all in order.
D-did I make a mistake by starting with Soul Reaver?
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>>340430060
>Simon Templeman is at least in his sixties by now

He has only grown more powerful. He kills every VA role he gets.
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>>340432689
Just play them all in order.

>>340432737
Xpadder and other gamepad profilers are a thing, anon.
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>>340429603
>it would have to be reinvented
FUCK YOU, VAMPIRE
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BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
BLOOD OMEN 2 CAN BE SKIPPED
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>>340432768
You haven't played blood omen 1? You're missing out. All the perks of a kaon game plus hidden shit if your into secrets
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>>340432031
Sorry anon, it's just that I see Dark Prophecy being always forgotten, which is a pity. That looked like the right sequel for Defiance and I am so mad they cancelled it after just six months. Kain was even supposed to visit Malek's Bastion again.;_;

I just want to see Kain finally redeem himself and Janos survive or at least die peacefully (that poor guy went through too much).
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>>340432682
And what about the fact the first game is a completely different genre? Is it good? Is it true it's a Diablo-like or is it just a very vague resemblance in camera?
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>>340432737

I just used Xpadder and it went smoothly.

They're just the same games from years ago re-released on Steam. They didn't add any kind of support or fixed any compatibility issue
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>>340426579
Defiance was pretty fucking awful past the first level.
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>>340432992
>LegacyofKain_06.jpg
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>>340428159
>getting increasingly disappointed with each installment
Sums it perfectly.

Also it got so bad they downright cancelled the Defiance sequel.
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>>340432937
Fuck off. Blood Omen 2 is my favorite of the series. I don't care if the rest of /v/ hates it.
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>>340433007
No, it's a grimdark Zelda clone. Just play them all. The story will draw you in, and you'll be better able to appreciate all the little references to prior games.
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>>340432737
How is the Dreamcast emulation for this game? The PC version sucks.
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"Spin on this, Moebius."
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>>340433220
You can't deny it created some plot holes that Defiance had to hurriedly try and fix.

It wasn't even meant to be a LoK game, ffs
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>>340432971

I don't know what kaon is. Am I making a mistake if I continue playing? I'm already past the second boss.
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>>340433220
It certainly is less terrible than Defiance at least.
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>>340433363
>It wasn't even meant to be a LoK game, ffs
Wait what
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>>340432682
The writing is good to great.
Very little of it is "poor". Even throwaway NPCs have some effort.
That's amazing for a video game.
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>>340428925

Read through this a few times, than look at normal text. The regular text will appear slightly slanted.
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>>340432992
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. I swear that's not the pic I chose.
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>>340433406
Yes, play Blood Omen, its events are integral to the test of the series.
You can think of it as a prequel to Soul Reaver, but play BO before finishing SR.
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>>340433567
Obviously, the coin landed on its edge.
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>>340433339
>only when you have felt the full gravity of choice should you question my judgement
>FUCK YOU
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>>340433693

OK, so I hear it's a different genre?
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>>340433457
my bad, I actually remembered wrong.

>So while Soul Reaver 2 was being a made a separate team started and created Blood Omen 2, using an engine that was meant for a remake to the game Chakan: The Forever Man.
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>>340428492
The only shitty thing I remember about the story in Defiance is that it didn't have a real ending. Other than that, it was a pretty solid continuation of Soul Reaver 2.
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>>340433220
This. There is a patrician aspect to BO2 that even /v/ fails to recognize. The atmosphere alone makes it stand out in not just the series but video games in general. No other game to date comes close to making you feel like an evil and morally reprehensible villain. Also:

YOUNG KAIN > ELDER KAIN
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>>340433913
I remember being the most impressed with BO2's blocking animations myself.
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>>340433762
It's a top-down hack-slash.
I guess it's a little like Diablo?..

Anyway, no platforming. Solid plot, great voice acting, armors and weapons are not inherently stronger than each other, but have various effects, so they all remain relevant till the very end of the game. Game is not too hard, there's also 100 secret areas, but there's no reward for finding all of them, so just enjoy yourself and don't bother with them, you'll find more than enough items as is.

You might have some issues with running it on newer systems, but there's a VERY EASY TO INSTALL patch that is VERY EASY TO FIND, so don't get discouraged if your game freezes upon loading the first level.
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>>340432869
I liked the tiddie out vampire hunter. It's actually a cool design.
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>>340433913
Say what you will about BO2's writing, but they nailed Kain's character perfectly, too.
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>>340434157

I see. Well I don't think I've ever played a game of that type. I'll look into it.
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>>340433913
the problem is that atmosphere alone cant carry a game
its still a bad game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CPGgfpQf-s

What are you, little soul?
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>Dark Prophecy was supposed to show us Kain dealing with the Hylden and finally restoring Nosgoth
>at first they wanted to show Raziel wandering through the "world" in the sword, pic related
>then they (thankfully) changed their minds and Raziel went back to his lonely suffering status
>Kain would have met Janos in the demon dimension and directed his younger self from afar
>Janos would have helped him, but also had his own schemes and plots (a sort of anti-villain, Cabuco said)
>Kain shown reviving Vorador to tie the game to BO2 and fill that outrageous plot hole

We will never see this come to life ;_;
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>>340434238
Personally, it's my favorite in the series. I view the sequels more as a spin-off series, desu senpai.
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>>340428492
It wasn't a conclusion to the series, just for Raziel's character.

They sure did a 180 after SR original end got scrapped.
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>>340434378
>>at first they wanted to show Raziel wandering through the "world" in the sword, pic related

Is every character going to be himself, infinitely being absorbed by the sword as time loops?
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>>340429046

Not him, but here's a few:

>Mobius (despite having nigh infinite knowledge of the future) didn't destroy all the time-streaming devices, which handed Kain the means to secure resistance.
>Mortanius in BO1 was seen as a benevolent figure whom at the end sacrificed himself at the end to Kain in order to restore the pillars... But in Defiance he is seen in constant turmoil fighting off a Hylden possession.
>The Elder God has no real incentive to release Raziel from the Abyss in SR1, and by doing so risks granting his only capable opponent the means he needs to see and battle him.
>Vorador is a paradoxical figure, initially set as some sort of shepard of the vampires, he acts against their best interest eventually securing their genocide even after warning Kain "not to meddle in the affairs of man."
>The Edge of the Coin was supposed to represent the end of SR2 when Kain pulls a partially completed Reaver from Raziel, thus defying the two commonly believed outcomes. This was supposed to release then from the "Machinations of Fate", but the Elder God and Mobius go right on predicting their actions throughout Defiance.

There's actually a ton of stuff like this, especially the villains unravelling themselves.
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>>340432992
>LegacyofKain_06.jpg
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>>340433220
I liked Blood Omen 2 also... but I fully admit the game is kind of a buggy mess, super repetitive and just creates plot holes in the lore. It's definitely not a objectively good game.

>>340433440
You're insane.
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>>340433913
>Mfw I progressively get stronger by gaining abilities from other vampires

Kain is shown literally shown to be the apex predator. It definitely won me over the first time I used Faustus's killer jump ability to kill a guard. Severely underrated gem tbqh senpatchi.
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>>340434378
I try not to think about the plot we missed. The game itself, I couldn't care less.
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>>340434692
Defiance is one gigantic, redundant and annoying chore to go through, the game is void of any fun past the sarafan stronghold.
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>>340434536
>>Mobius (despite having nigh infinite knowledge of the future) didn't destroy all the time-streaming devices, which handed Kain the means to secure resistance.
The time streaming devices were why he had future knowledge, so he can't destroy them.

>>Mortanius in BO1 was seen as a benevolent figure whom at the end sacrificed himself at the end to Kain in order to restore the pillars
If kain died then all vampires would have been extinct. Meaning the pillars would fall anyway. Still playing into hylden plans.

>>The Elder God has no real incentive to release Raziel from the Abyss in SR1, and by doing so risks granting his only capable opponent the means he needs to see and battle him.
Kain was a defacto god by that point and only the monkey wrench in time, Raziel, could dislodge him.

>Vorador is a paradoxical figure, initially set as some sort of shepard of the vampires, he acts against their best interest eventually securing their genocide even after warning Kain "not to meddle in the affairs of man."

What? He got them all pissed off before he ever met kain, then only afterwords told kain that storming the castle and telling them to CALL YOUR DOGS is a bad idea.

>>The Edge of the Coin was supposed to represent the end of SR2 when Kain pulls a partially completed Reaver from Raziel, thus defying the two commonly believed outcomes. This was supposed to release then from the "Machinations of Fate", but the Elder God and Mobius go right on predicting their actions throughout Defiance.
How was he supposed to know what was going to happen when it involves changing fate?
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>>340434898
>not enjoying slaughtering the savage vampire-worshippers as Kain, like some sort of angry god

come on man the combat was fun
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LoK, VTM and SH threads are always so comfy. Is it because they're (relatively) niche?
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>>340430061
THIS CAN'T BE
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>>340429680
>remaster retaining the original gameplay and a new version in third person so everyone is happy
:3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvVlZU3UW7I
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>>340434695
It definitely did stealth kills/finishing moves pretty good. Better than most modern games.
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>>340435393
That's usually how it works. The best threads are always things that are somewhat popular but not in the limelight. Ratchet and clank threads USED to be that way.
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>>340434898
I think the game gets repetitive because the combat isn't varied enough and you end up fighting a lot of the same enemies over and over again (fuck those statues).

Also I hate the Devil May Cry/Resident Evil camera angle they went with. I wish they just stuck with SR1&2's camera.

Aside from that crap, Defiance is still a much better game than BO2.
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>>340433332
Few graphic glitches with the glyphs symbols but I think that's it
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>>340435449
http://omnicide.razorwind.ru/en/

It's not your dream remake but it's something.
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>>340435765
I suppose the simple fact that both best boys Kain & Raziel finally unite into a single game gives it the top spot in the series.
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>>340435106

1. He knew he was going to die in BO1, and he even says that. Also, he resurrects due to the Elder God. There was nothing stopping him from destroying the machines immediately before his death, or after he was resurrected. The fact that he's absent from SR1 is weird enough.

2. Precisely. Mortanius throws himself on your sword practically, embracing his fate at the end of BO1. This isn't something that would have happen to the literal finger puppet that was Mortanius in Defiance.

3. The Elder God still risks unravelling himself, and Kain literally can't do fuckall to stop him until the end of Defiance.

4. Vorador is always present as a sherpardong figure, but he attacks the circle and butchers them in petty revenge. I know 'when' it happened, but it still contradicts the character's motivations.

5. Weather he knows or not is irrelevant. The fact it does literally nothing isn't what's relevant. When he keeps talking about it, and the game narratively presents this shit like it matters is what's stupid.
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>>340433332
Emulating the dreamcast version is the best way to play it. Better base version than the PC and more options through the emulator.
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>>340435405
Beliebit!
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>>340426579
Nothing special, really. Games were always merely a vessel for plot and characters in case of LoK.
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>>340435823
>not finished
Damn, would totally play. Had so much fun with BO, played for hours and it was one of the few games that I played in 2015 that got me hooked
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POST MORE GOAT OST's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPPWbbYRvJI
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>>340429603
Yeah, reboot is the only realistic outcome. I mean odds of continuing a series when last game was what, ten years ago is extremely unlikely next to impossible. And you know it won't be anything like Legacy of Kain you remember, as we saw in leaked >>340432869 Dead Sun footage.
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https://youtu.be/XBN8N2NXfi4

WE SQUENIXX NOW BOYS.
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>>340436110
Well he literally isn't allowed to destroy the time machines anon, doing so creates a paradox.
If Raziel can't use them then the timestream gets very very fucked up.
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>>340436492
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Soul Reaver 1 was the original Dark Souls minus overly difficult bosses.
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>>340432869
>mfw Dead Sun got vetoed by Square Enix on grounds of LORE

I don't even want to know how much of a rape that would've been if they pulled the plug based on that, honestly.
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>>340436492
this and what amy said about "needing a new audience" gives me no hope for this series
she compares it to tomb raider and tomb raider became trash
this is why we cant have nice things
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>>340436110
>1. He knew he was going to die in BO1, and he even says that. Also, he resurrects due to the Elder God. There was nothing stopping him from destroying the machines immediately before his death, or after he was resurrected. The fact that he's absent from SR1 is weird enough
He know time can be changed, he needs them to do his future seeing any time the timestream alters. Why do you think he's always so confused after a change?
>2. Precisely. Mortanius throws himself on your sword practically,
Morty himself did, who was also defiant in defiance, but then what happened right afterwards?
HASH'AK'GIK HASH'AK'GIK HASH'AK'GIK

>3. The Elder God still risks unravelling himself, and Kain literally can't do fuckall to stop him until the end of Defiance.
The purified soul reaver could harm him, so yeah he could. And he needed to get things going again because he needed some souls to munch on.

>4. Vorador is always present as a sherpardong figure, but he attacks the circle and butchers them in petty revenge. I know 'when' it happened, but it still contradicts the character's motivations.
His motivations changed BECAUSE of that event. They even straight up say it in SR2.

>When he keeps talking about it, and the game narratively presents this shit like it matters is what's stupid.
The coin refers to getting out of a catch 22. Raziel himself used it to describe the moment on the ouroboros. But everytime kain mentions it, it's in reference to the pillars and the whole "the pillars are fucked no matter what" outcome. It's the concept of cheating fate given a name.
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>>340436719
>she compares it to tomb raider and tomb raider became trash

Because that's pretty much what Soul Reaver was. Just like how Blood Omen was essentially a gothic Zelda game.
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>>340436098
>top spot in the series

Naw. The first Soul Reaver and the first Blood Omen will always be the two best games in the series.

But I will admit the Kain vs. Raziel fight is pretty epic.
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Lend me an ear lads. In each and every single game I play I am able to pick a personal favorite character easily. However no other series has baffled me in terms of my preferences so much. No matter how much I try I can't bring myself to choose either Kain or Raziel. Even if I manage to have an inclination to one of them Ill swing over to the other vampire after a while. It goes back and forth like this continually. My thinking is that since both protagonists are written so exquisitely it is quite impossible to for me to make a final choice in the matter. Have any of you ever dealt with this dilemma? What was your decision? Based Kain or Punished Raziel?
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>>340436904
>"I would choose integrity"
That line always stuck with me, so Raziel it is.

Kain comes close, though
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>>340436846
im talking about how she is comparing it to the direction tomb raider took
you know the reboot
I wouldnt wish that hell upon any game
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>>340437116
I would choose oblivion next to that existence.
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>>340437116
Oh. Honestly, I don't think I'd really care as long as the story and characters are on the same level. I'll never sing praises about how her games actually PLAYED because that's not why I stuck around.
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>>340437182
Can we agree that nosgoth/dead sun was mobius's doing
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>>340437319
Don't be like that goy.
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>>340437276
It more then likely would fall flat and change most the story so it can "get a wider audience"
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>>340436904
>>340437030
I'd got with Raziel purely because his death was so fucking good.
>I am as before your right hand, your sword
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>>340437456
Needs the part of him wringing his hands
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>Yfw a new Legacy of Kain is announced at E3
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>>340426579

>literally considering playing Legacy of Kain for the first time today
>your OP

I swear to god that better not be spoilers you massive faggot, go fucking kill yourself.

If it is, then fuck it, no point playing, apparently story was the only good things about this series in the first place, thanks for ruining 5 games. Kill yourself.
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>>340437756
I'll hang myself
there is no way it could be good in this condition
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>>340437782
>>340434360

It's the 2nd game's main menu theme, calm down anon
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>>340437782
I mean, we can TRY and spoil the game for you, but good luck with that.
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>>340437782
its a sort of spoiler but you need context to understand it
you wont get the context till the end of BO1
unless you just jump into soul reaver 1
then its not really a spoiler at all
in fact i think its like the first thing they state
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>>340437782
Literally the first sentence in soul reaver 1
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>>340437728
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>>340426579
linear
no bosses
backtracking

should've ended with SR1 tbqh
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>>340426579
The only thing that went wrong is how your mother didn't get an abortion when she had the chance faggot OP.
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YOU HAVE SEEN MY PLAN VAMPIRE AS I'VE SEEN YOUR DESTINY

THE FUTURE SAYS YOU DIE


BUT I AM DEAD

AS ARE YOU


think I never came so hard after watching a cutscene
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>>340437903
>>340437991
>>340438006

So it's only spoilers for Blood Omen 1 then? Well that is what I was thinking of starting today. At least it's not the entire series ruined.

Since I am here I may as well ask, should I torrent the PC version or emulate the PS1 version of BO1? Does PC version run well on WIndows 7 or do I need fixes?
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>>340438323
alas poor nupraptor, I knew him well
well, not really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqa13zScfFU
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>>340438010
>>340438010
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>>340438480
again
its not ruined
every spoiler in the series requires an obscene amount of context
this one probably the least but at the same time it the line doesnt take anything away
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>>340437782
No need for the massive butthurt, you'll only understand it later on that's the point
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THREE Raziels
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>>340438692

Alright okay I trust you. I just hate getting spoiled and it's happened before to many times right as I was just starting a series.

So which version of BO1 is the best. Also how long do these games generally go for?
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>>340439034
>how long do these games generally go for?
Hundreds, perhaps thousands of years.
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>>340439034
there is a pc version and i think its on ps3 as well
if you can get the pc version working I'm certain its a good way to go
and these games are generally average
can range from like 6-10 hours depending on how easily you can pick things up
a lot of it is talking keep in mind
talking with sweet seductive voices
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>>340439034
PC version is miles better than PS1. Faster load times, higher resolution, works flawlessly.
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>>340439034
PS1 BO1 is WAY more stable. But the loadtimes are fuck awful, like you don't know. Emulated dreamcast is the only way to play SR1.
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>>340437756
I would seriously be on the fence about it. I love this series, but I don't think I can trust them to do it any justice.
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>>340439374
>>340439252
>>340439034
I also must state
DO NOT PLAY SOUL REAVER ON PC\
its a terrible port
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>Blood Omen
Masterpiece, will forever be remembered as one of the best story telling games ever made.

>Soulreaver
Mediocre, blatantly unfinished was rehashed into a LoK game from another game, story was basic and lackluster but not bad, had a decent amount of exploration. gained enough popularity to get a sequel.

>Soulreaver 2
Horrible game, shit story, linear gameplay, even more unfinished than the first game.

>Blood Omen 2
Another rehashed game, contrived plot barely fits into any of the other games plot, complete mess of a game both story and mechanically.

>Defiance
Desperate attempt to fix loose ends and plot holes, fails horribly. abysmal game was the final nail in the coffin that killed the series.
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>>340439537
>Soulreaver
>Mediocre
stopped reading here
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>>340439660
It's a butthurt Silicon Knights pasta.
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>>340439537
honestly I consder SR1 my favorite
its story is strange and honestly doesnt go anywhere but the crazy future world building and charcters were amazing
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>>340439537
I was wondering when you'd show up.
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>>340439487

Why? I have the whole series on Steam except for BO1 since it's not on there.

I also have SR1 on PS3 though as well that I got with a gift card. My PC version just came with the bundle since I wanted the other 3 games.

>>340439431

Why dreamcast? What is so bad about the PC version of SR1?

>>340439374
>>340439252

Alright I will get PC version then.
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>>340439537
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>>340439870
SR1 is a bad port
audio issues
freezing
stuttering
its a fucking mess
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I find it funny how you can still get the Fire Reaver in SR 1 despite the reaver types being part of the old story before it was scrapped.
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>>340439870
>What is so bad about the PC version of SR1?

SR1 simply runs on weaker hardware and PC post isn't that good. Not to mention no native gamepad support and game is really built with one in mind.
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>>340439870
The Dreamcast version of Soulreaver has:
>Better character models
>Better Textures
>A more advanced lighting engine
PC is a bad port of the PSone version
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>>340440094
What I find funny is how game getting rushed and all that cut content essentially fed into continuing the story. You were supposed to deal with all the lieutenants and vampire situation in that single game.
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>>340439870
>What is so bad about the PC version of SR1?
The audio is fucked on modern PCs. Even back when it was first released it was the weakest port since it lacked the dynamic soundtrack the console versions had.
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>>340440007
>>340440193
>>340440209
>>340440404

Alright, well the PC version of SR1 I had was free with SR2, BO2 and Defiance anyways. Is the PC versions of those 3 alright?

Can I play my PS3 copy of SR1 is that good? Or am I gonna have to go to emuparadise and spend hours direct downloading the DC version.
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>>340440660
PS3 Soul Reaver is just an emulation of the PSone version, if you're fine with that go ahead.
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>>340433913
BO2 is a good game with a weak plot while the rest of the series are mostly weak games with good plots, except for BO1 which was both a good game and had a good plot.
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>>340440094
I remember reading some Behind the Scenes stuff regarding SR2 and how they had plans for a bunch of elemental Reaver types that were discarded due to time constraints (on that big BO/SR website). Seeing all the test footage or screenshots for the things that were planned.

Then when Defiance dropped and they had ALL the different elemental Reavers fully realized and functional...I straight shat myself
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>>340428281

sr1 puzzles were overrated, literally lego tomb raider garbage
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>>340428831
>the finale was absolutely fantastic.
>god still alive and eating the souls of the worlds
>lol it's k we kno who de bad guy is XDD
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>>340439537
Accurate
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>>340430060
>>Amy Hennig will never work on the series again

good fucking riddance, blood omen 1 was poetic art, anything after was LE TIME PARODXES ECKSDEE bullshit
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>>340433913
I just can't understadn the artistic direction in bo2, at first it seemed like mediaval dark fantasy, but then you see a shitload of pipes and mechanisms working thanks to a green steam. I even remember seeing a submarine in the harbour level, Humans look like they're from late 18th century russian upperclass with their coats and hats, and the Saraphan knight are disco as fuck.

I'm not gonna lie, I was dissappointed during the first half of the game, but I ended up having lots of fun seeing how they went all the way through with their choices.
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>>340442110
>shift to spectral
>Ouroboros has wings
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>>340441908
Fuck off, BO autist.
The whole saga is great, your opinion is trash.
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