why did one flopp and the other become such a success? it's essentially the same game...
>>340422360
>battleborn is so bad people haven't even seen it enough to even know what it is
It's amazing
Fuck gearbox i hope this bankrupts them
>>340422631
sadly they will never go bankrupt
>>340422360
>it's essentially the same game...
Just like Quake and Overwatch are the same game!
And Bioshock and Overwatch.
And Unreal Tournemant and Overwatch.
Really, all you need to be is an FPS to be the same game!
>>340422360
One marketed like fucking crazy and is blizzard, the other did not and is gearbox.
Surprise surprise.
>>340422930
any game with guns in it is basically the same game
>>340422930
Being cartoony ASSFAGGOTS shit is enough I think.
>>340422360
>essentially the same game
What the fuck are you smoking?
Battleborn is basically monday night combat 3, it's a first person MOBA with minions, towers etc
Overwatch is a hero based shooter, like TF2 but with more heroes with different weapons instead of more weapons for fewer heroes
They aren't the same at all
Please go do a triple backflip off a cliff
>>340422360
why does it say VS.? Shooting fish in a barrel isn't a fight.
>>340423107
>overwatch
>ASSFAGGOTS
i hate faggot MOBAs as much as the next guy but that isnt true at all
>>340422360
>it's essentially the same game...
Only it's fucking not.
Overwatch is akin to TF2.
Battleborn is more like a Dota game
Guess which genre is harder to get into and people can't stand anymore.
one was made by blizzard
>>340423495
Yes, it is.
>>340422360
the art design in battleborn is too loud and obnoxious
>>340423360
7,000,000 vs. 1,200 LOfuckingL
>>340423914
so is overwatch though
>>340423495
>abilities on cooldown
how is this not MOBA?
Literally the first thing that most people heard of regarding Battleborn was that it was a flop that no one was playing. The shit-tier marketing is what really killed it. They were never gonna be able to compete with Overwatch either, so they really should have emphasized the MOBA aspects of it to try to win over some of the people that are sick of DotA and LoL by now.
Also, the visual design is terrible, and it's almost physically painful to look at, so it makes an awful first impression.
>>340424238
Kek what?
Tell me this is bait right?
>>340424238
Call of Duty is an RPG
>>340423495
The first thing a friend told me when describing Overwatch was "It's a mix between League of Legends and TF2". It may not be ASSFAGGOTS, but it has a lot of elements from it.
No waifus
>>340424701
he's right
>>340422842
Well, they have the Borderlands franchise to back them up
But if they flop BL3, I dont know if they will recover from that
>>340425429
No hes not
>>340422631
>battleborn is so bad people haven't even seen it enough to even know what it is
That's the best part. I've seen so much advertisements in a lot of places I gone to lately and I don't know a single person who has expressed any interest at all if they even knew it existed. It is like a dream come true.
>>340424813
Maybe your friend is just a retard.
Because OW has a fuckton of adds, and everyone on the internet started to talk about it when it was announced. Huge yt channels such as markiplier has started playin the game and making videos about it, thus expanding it's amount of players.
Does it mean that it's good?Of course fucking not. It's funny how it fails to be better than a game which was released nine fucking years ago.Also, keep your OW discussions in your /vg/ OW thread, please
Abilities having cooldown is not a MOBA specific feature. It doesn't define the game nor genre.
A MOBA feature is like assaulting a base with creeps.
Saying Overwatch is a Moba because abilities have cooldown is like saying XCOM is a FPS because you have to reload weapons.
This is like sa
>>340426335
Oh god its the rogue-like debate all over again! can we just end it here and say we're all retarded and go back to shitting on battleborn?
>>340422360
One has a roster of fuckable characters, the other only has Benedict.
>>340426335
XCOM could be a 3rd person shooter, but the whole fps thing is that you're playing the game in first person.
>>340423079
t. Nintendrone
Brand recognition. Some of you will buy something just because of it's popular brand.
>>340426150
Hol up, I'm a huge Markiplier fag but I never seen any Overwatch videos!
>>340426941
But they're both new IPs.
>>340424813
Things Overwatch and MOBAs have in common:
>abilities on cooldowns
>a colorful cast of characters that perform different gameplay roles
Things Overwatch and MOBAs do not have in common:
>map variety
>gametype variety
>items that affect stats
>creeps
>gold
>a laneing phase
>level ups
>the ability to switch characters
>the ability to have multiple of one character (in the main gametype)
Super Monday Night Combat was a MOBA-TPS crossover. Battleborn is closer to a first person variant. Overwatch is just TF2 with abilities. I don't know why people are comparing them, other than to bait people like me into responding.
>>340422360
Marketing! I played the Overwatch beta and found it fun. I barely realized Battleborn existed, and given the price cuts, I will wait a bit longer before I even decide that I might want to try it.
I tried to give this game a chance but I really can't stand the artstyle. It looks like some kind of shitty rip-off toys for kids
Blizzard marketed the shit out of their game
>>340424238
Because that shit predates the whole MOBA genre?
I just want a new Monday Night Combat, that worked best for me.
Tried Batteborn and the graphics are so ugly they actually give me headache and the characters are just plain bad.
Also tried Overwatch but it's just a shooter without Capture the flag mode, so that's not for me, either.
>>340422360
>it's essentially the same game...
love this meme desu senpai
>>340422360
one was made with love and care and the other was made by gearbox
>>340427542
>blizzard
>love and care
>>340427017
I meant the Blizzard brand, Overwatch received more popularity because it was made by Blizzard than if it was made by most other companies.
>>340422360
Waifus.
>>340427504
I'm willing to say anything to keep this death march moving along. Losing almost 100 player a day! The fun never ends!!
>>340428123
it hasnt been on the steam top 100 in over a week
IT'S DEAD JIM
>>340427706
Their art/animation team cares at least
Streching 3d models to achieve smear like effects looks good
>>340427712
>I meant the Blizzard brand, Overwatch received more popularity because it was made by Blizzard than if it was made by most other companies.
Straw man. Overwatch was actually marketed which is Battleborn's failing. Randy Pitchford said himself he was relying on word of mouth to spread hype about his game, which was clearly a big mistake.
>>340426150
looks like someone bought Battleborn
>>340428475
still huge but keep memeing
Gearbox really should have spent their time educating their potential buyers about the game instead of going and taking shots at blizzard.
>>340429087
>>340429087
>AAA game
>1500 players
>huge
Sure is, Randy
The playerbase has essentially halved itself since the end of last month.
>>340424560
the thing is: assfaggots players are already tired of their own game, and its highly unlikely they switch to another one.
>>340429087
At this point you guys are just depressing.
>>340422360
I was actually playing Battleborn a bit when the Overwatch beta ended. But once the full it's release came out I havent touched BB even once. (or anything else for that matter)
Battleborn is a decent game but Overwatch completely crushes it in fun factor.
>>340422631
>Fuck gearbox i hope this bankrupts them
Fuck you. They need to make Borderlands 3 first
>>340430463
And that tripname should have not been there
The visual design is weird and bizarre
>happy-go-lucky cockney sterotype
vs
>mushroom looking ninja thing or something idontfuckinkno
>>340430081
top fucking kek
>>340427712
This is so true of Blizz games, they could release a shit simulator and people would still lap it up