>/v/ would defend this
>neo/v/ would defend this
>>340416480
Not really.
The few people who care about the next games translation are pretty pissed it is by the same guys as this.
I wouldn't have known what it meant unless someone else translated it for me.
In the off chance that I did, I wouldn't bother playing the translated version.
Your move
>>340416480
no one here besides vitagen cares for obscure weebshit
come back when its a game that actually matters
why would I care? translations are always bad
I have not seen one single english game that was translated well into german
and thats why I always play in english
>Changing dialog to fit the audience.
yatta.
>>340416480
>m-muh literal translations
Fuck off, weeb, no one cares.
Who the actual fuck cares if it's a word-for-word literal translation or not? As long as it conveys the same general tone and sounds good it doesn't matter. Jesus fucking christ you're a fucking retard OP. Kill yourself for wasting your life making stupid threads like this. Not like you've got anything to live for anyway.
>tfw know Japanese
>Don't give a heck
>>340416480
hahaha translation of video games aren't important compared to movies or literature. aim is to sell more money to braindeads, not preserve the message across a different language. video games are toys ahahahahaha
>>340416480
A dry translation results in "it cannot be helped" and "eeeeeeh?!" ad nauseam. Thank your localization team for writing an actual story.
>>340416715
>Neo v
You're such a faggot. You probably think SJW aren't real.
Jap Erst just seems like a boring cunt. His manner of speech is also really unnatural.
>>340417670
What kind of retarded logic is that?
>>340417784
/v/ logic
>>340417520
In this case, it's not either. But I also don't trust OP's image and have never played the game so I don't know if he picked unmatched dialogue or not.
I'm not against trying to make the localized version seem a bit more natural as Japanese is a much stiffer language and direct translations are often awkward. However way too many groups go overboard with this basically it's always something like
Original: "I refuse!"
Translated: "No way, Jose! You can bet your sweet ass I'm not gonna agree to anything you say, boyo!"
>>340416715
>Mirror World Neo/v/ would defend this poster
How is this even localization? He's basically saying completely different shit
>>340416480
What game? It's not more shit from Nintendo, is it?
>>340416480
depends on what platform it releases
>>340420051
This. If it's Nintendo, I'll get mad.
If not, I'll defend it.
There's a difference between Translating, localizing, and rewriting.
Rewriting and localizing can be done very well, but those just seem very awkward to read. If any of you faggots are into anime, check out the dub of Sergeant Frog. 90% of the humor of that show is japanese culture humor so the writers had to localize it and what they did was genius.
>>340416480
no, we don´t.
Most translators are a bunch of complete retarded faggots. Sometimes, they even break games sidequests by inventing retarded riddles that doesn´t exists in the original game.
This usually only serves to boost piracy, original fan translations and people learning japanese.
>>340420220
I DON'T WANT YOUR BURGERLAND "CULTURE" JOKES YOU FUCKHEAD
IF I WANTED AMERICAN JOKES I WOULD'VE BOUGHT AMERICAN THING
IF I BUY JAPANESE THING
I WANT JAPANESE JOKES
![tumblr_mttbr2DHbV1rr5qhqo1_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/r2XI6WS.png "tumblr_mttbr2DHbV1rr5qhqo1_500[1].png")
>>340420606
Does that mean you found super milk chan hilarious?
I just wanna know how many bugs SN6 will get now.
>2016
>still don't know how to read moon runes
>>340420606
You should learn Japanese then, Anon-kun
It's Ireland being Ireland. Been a fan even back during Working Design days. And while he can go a bit overboard I do enjoy it.
>>340420220
Sgt. Frog is a great watch both dubbed and subbed, but honestly for games especially i'd prefer a direct translation with no bullshit.
Rewriting a show to accommodate for the fact that burgers can't into jap humor is something different altogether.
>>340416480
is this a nisa translation?
>>340420836
>me back in 2009 when I first started learning
>realized that I didn't want to look back at myself in 5 years and realize I wasted my time by not learning and would be pissed off
>busted my butt learning it
>don't regret a thing a now
Just start dude you're not getting any younger
>>340421484
Same story here. Started in 2013 and now I'm playing all the games I want.
Feels good man.
>>340420606
>this post
>>340421346
The alternative is that they don't rewrite it and they have to deal with nobody but very niche groups wanting to play the games in the first place. Then low sales = no western releases. Pick your poison.
>>340416480
>Not a recipe for peaceful relations.
Nobody talks like this. Nobody has ever talked like this.
>>340417670
holy shit /pol/ is getting really avante garde with derailing to shill agenda.
>>340419884
That's pretty much what localization means.
Localizationd have always been on rewrite tier. They only very vaguely (sometimes) follow the basic plot but almost always change character interaction, relations, and personality.
Basically most characters are written more down to earth originally and closer to how a Japanese person would actually speak (with extraordinary exceptions for "out there" oddball characters) whereas localization scripts are written in ways NO ONE speaks.
Localization is an old, ugly, outdated concept in our global market and interconnected world where everyone has the abilities to both learn about other cultures and actually communicate with people in those cultures in an instant. Localization is a dinosaur that had one purpose in the early days of video gsmes: to help video games, a new and unpredictable industry, burst into other countries in a more fractured and disconnected world.
>>340421764
No western release.
Fangroups pick up on the translations instead (years later).
Everything went slightly better than expected.
>>340421969
But if we end localization where would liberal arts majors from the extreme left work?
>>340422434
>read the sign
Who the fuck made this, bethesda?
Examples
>Translation
Teehee anon-kun~ You're so funny! You remind me of Yuji Tanaka!
>Localization
Hahaha anon you're pretty funny! You remind me of Robin Williams!
>Rewrite
I like your shirt anon! We should be friends!
>>340416480
hahahaha
>>340423594
Oh look, a sensible post.
It's sure to be ignored.
>>340420179
More like, if it's Nintendo, people will argue about it ceaselessly, but if it's anyone else they'll just forget about it completely and never bring it up again.
>>340423594
>>340423000
Thanks for the chuckle.Nice trips.
>>340416480
They both suck.
Japan's is extremely dry and the translation gives TOO much character.
>>340416480
I am sofa king
We todd ed
>>340416480
No one cares about stupid weeb game's translation.
Translate it yourself if you hate it so much. Oh wait you can't.
>>340417325
>weebshit
>posts metaru giiru
>>340423000
Savage
>>340426179
just make your own games if you hate them so much lmao fag
oh wait you can't
>hi gays I live on anime Japan internet board but I haet all anime and Japan stop talking bout anime Jap stuff rolf weeb!
There are plenty of non-Japanese image boards you all can go to if you're so sick and tired of people talking about Japanese things on 4chan.
>>340416480
>Sub is extremely boring and lifeless
>Dub is extremely tacky and 4kids-tier
Good localization is so fucking rare, jesus.
>>340427090
I'm honestly convinced that it's mainly just your fellow weebs shitposting and baiting anons like you with their posts.
Nobody could really be so stupid as to complain about weebshit while browsing a site designated for weebshit. You don't see normalfags strolling into furfag sites and complaining about the amount of furfags around when they'd honestly be better off posting anywhere else.
>>340416480
>working designs
How did these guys get so popular despite being so awful at japanese?
In Growlanser 3 for example, ghoul is "localized" as Guru, scissor as shisah, pharmacist as pharmakis. Do they even play the games they translate?
And in Growlanser 2 they renamed "Oscar" to "Kenshin".
Anyways, is there a jap audio patch for summon night yet?
>>340421484
>>340421602
Yes, watching from the sidelines is great.
Freedom feels nice.
>>340416480
>/v/ would play either of them
They're both cancerous no substance weeaboo trash. Who gives a shit? Play a game with actual gameplay instead.
Are any fan translators working on Summon Night 3?
>>340427765
>You don't see normalfags strolling into furfag sites and complaining about the amount of furfags around when they'd honestly be better off posting anywhere else.
They do that all the time, because people need something to bitch and cry about even if they have to throw themselves into places they despise just get worked up enough to rage.
>your fellow weebs
Projecting AND assuming, nice, add in some self-loathing and you'll get a hat trick. Pointing out how retarded you are for getting upset about people on a Japanese image board talking about Japanese things =/= me being a 4chan meme word.
>>340427090
>There are plenty of non-Japanese image boards
You mean like the 90% of boards on 4chan, /v/ included?
>>340428307
I don't think you understand whose side i'm on, anon.
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/07/summon-night-6-lost-borders-heads-west-2017/
Just remember they are now in charge of all the Summon Night games now. And Ireland has a lot of friends in Japan so who know what else series he might get.
>>340428506
Where in the rules does it say /v/ can't talk about Japanese-made games? Maybe you should ask Hiro to make a board specifically for Western games so you don't have to put up with all the Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, Fire Emblem, etc threads.
>>340429074
Because video games need gameplay. Since Visual Novels don't have gameplay either and don't go on /v/, it would dictate that it should go to /jp/. Especially since even if there -was- gameplay to talk about in weebshit (which there isn't), you faggots just talk about your "whyfoos".
>>340429170
So any game with dialogue = visual novels now?
>>340416480
>Everyone, look! A bad guy has come out! Prepare the weapons, we must make battle quickly!
Is this what you guys want from a translation?
>>340429330
>A game with no gameplay but 9,000,000 lines of animu dialogue is a visual novel?
Yeah. No shit, sherlock?
>>340428808
He's doing games nobody is interested in picking up. It's not like he's depriving us of titles that other publishers wanted to get.
>>340429470
Love how you need to emphazise that it's Japanese. If it was made by an American would you be throwing a shitfit over it being a visual novel?
You guys are really wasting effort on arguing with someone saying "weebshit" and "whyfoos"?
It's 2016, guys. I know it's a new generation on this board now but c'mon.
>>340429438
how about
>i don't know where you're from, but you look like you want to fight. That much is certain.
faggot
>>340428808
Most of the people in this board didn't even know the GBA games are spin-offs. But suddenly everyone is crying about translation fidelity.
>>340416480
I don't know where you came from, but you look like you're ready for a fight.
>>340429689
The rest of the world understands games need gameplay. Only Japan can get away with it because of fanatical braindead weeaboos who will slurp up any excrement as long as it has an anime aesthetic. There's definitely some Western games that have awful gameplay, but that's still better than none whatsoever.
>>340416480
Just learn Japanese faggots.
Like holy shit. 3 months with the 3 volumes of remembering the Kanji combined with Jisho.org is all you need to stumble your way through any game with a Japanese-English Dictionary.
Better yet, choose a high quality text filled RPG and by the time you finish stumbling through it you will be pretty damn good at the language and wont be stumbling anymore- you will 'git gud' at Japanese.
Look, just pound that kanji and basic grammar into your head over the summer, buy Persona 5 or something (fuck maybe Yakuza 6) in the fall (JP version of course) and force your way through it. Don't look up guides or translations. Translate that shit yourself. 3 months with remembering the Kanji and a good dictionary and you will have all the tools and core skills you need to do that on your own.
By the time you finish, you will be good enough at Japanese to basically read and understand anything you want.
>>340429902
>The rest of the world understands games need gameplay
So that explains why the rest of the world also makes visual novels and games "without gameplay", too. Is your Japan hateboner taking so much blood from your brain that you can't think properly?
>>340430012
>>340423000
>>340417520
>Who the actual fuck cares if it's a word-for-word literal translation or not?
There's word for word literal, there's subjectively adapted, and then there's just making shit up by yourself.
>As long as it conveys the same general tone and sounds good it doesn't matter.
It's not. Moonspeak version has this guy addressing the monster and breaking off a cliche shonen hero line. The "adapted" version has the guy cracking wise and saying stupid shit that nobody would say to a random monster.
Also, making a character overly wordy if they generally aren't is changing that character. That's a no-no.
I'm assuming of course OP is not full of shit and capped the right screens. It'd be helpful to see a transcript of the entire scene in both languages.
>>340416480
You can't directly translate japanese without it sounding like shit. On the other hand you don't need to make it awful either. There is a middle ground.
Listen here weebs, Japan is boring as shit, spicing up their shitty boring dialogue isn't a crime.
>>340430437
>says the no culture country
Vic Ireland is cancer, but Dragon Force is on my backlog. Did he ruin that game too?
>>340429170
>Because video games need gameplay.
then we can't talk about most western games either since japanese mobages have more mechanics that all of them do.
so what games do we talk about?
>>340430578
He's got a point about their dialogue. Like 80% of what they say is inferred it's fucking crazy.
As far as I can tell the only things they say are sasuga and ganbare and they just infer the rest of the sentence from that.
>>340421969
>Localizationd have always been on rewrite tier.
No. Localization is rendering one language's idioms and cliches into a more equivalent and legible English version. It's a product of experience working in both languages which separates the machine-translating chinamen from a savvy translator.
A cliche line like "Don't forget this" gets transformed to something like "I'll get you next time". A reference to Crayon Shin-chan gets turned into a Simpsons joke.
"Translators" who blatantly rewrite shit are creatively bankrupt and have no business working as an amateur or professional.
>>340430578
You have no idea where I'm from, so you're implying Japan is superior to literally everywhere.
God, you're a worthless weeb.
You probably think Japan is like your shitty animes.
>>340420774
this show was amazing
>>340430801
shut up burger
>>340431023
>I wanna be asian, fuk my contry xD
Wow, you're so cool and hipster, anon.
>>340431023
>it's a weebcuck gets btfo episode
>>340431293
Thank god i'm not an amerifat
>>340431023
>so insecure about answer he makes up insults from food
>playing a translated game
>"Even if we do something like that, it's impossible!"
>"Even if you give me something like that, I can't accept it!"
>"Even if you say something like that..."
Nobody fucking talks like this. I don't even know what the fuck is happening in the actual Japanese wording that makes translators use this retarded phrase over and over, but it just reaffirms the fact that Japanese syntax is garbage.
>>340430437
This. People tend to forget just how blunt and/or plain they are in writing. It's heavily embedded in their culture.
It doesn't translate well.
>>340416480
The english translation actually looks better there. The japanese looks boring.
>>340431348
I wonder what she's referring to because it certainly ain't those tiddies.
>>340431348
You better cough up a name or something
>>340431409
No matter what you are, Japan will never want you.
Stop praising them you disgusting gaijin pig.
>Vic Ireland goes too far
Woah! Stop the presses!
>>340431569
I remember in suikoden 2 Victor says like 6 horrible insults in a row and then tops it off with "and I'll never forgive you" I understand that's a big deal in japanese but it's such a fucking terrible insult.
also "we'll do our best too!" sounds like shit, so does "as expected of".
my favourite thing about weeaboos is how they insist that literal translations are better because they're 'closer to the original japanese' despite having no actual knowledge of japan outside weeaboo bullshit and no idea of how japanese people actually communicate with one another
let me spell it out. literal translation = not necessarily the closest thing to the original meaning
>thread about bad translations
>devolves into burgerfat tripfags dumping amateur porn
>>340431995
As a weeb, literal translations are bad.
>>340431995
Memes sure are closer to the original meaning
>>340416480
>/v/ would defend this
No they wouldn't. That translation is one of the worst I've ever seen.
>>340432127
As a weeb they're not that bad
>>340432501
Hey Hey! Are you Seriously?
>>340432501
sasuga
>>340432596
As a weeb I'm seriously
>>340432886
There is reply. News I have heard seriously several times.This is actual dialogue from SAO, by the way. A literal translation. Readable but in an Idiocracy way.
>>340432886
watashi ore wa sasuga ganbare-san.
>>340420774
Miss Milk, open up! It's time to pay your rent, young lady!
>Playing FFX with the japanese voices for the first time ever
>Auron: "I'm Yuna's bodyguard, I've got no time for that."
>Subtitle: I've got nothing to tell you.
>Yuna: "Thank you."
>Subtitle: "I love you."
Why? How?
A friendly reminder that the later you start, the harder it is to learn a foreign language. If you haven't started learning Japanese before you hit 18, it's probably impossible for you now and you will forever be at the mercy of lower and lower quality translations.
>>340433615
I feel you, playing any english game with french subtitles is suffering
>>340433950
>Ha, this was a really funny joke
>Hon Hon Hon Hon Hon
Must be awful
>>340421969
>Localizations have always been on rewrite tier.
Only in the last... 20-30 years.
Before the printing press, there had to be done excessive work to translate anything, meaning EVERYTHING had to be translated properly.
There is traces of this, I.E Champion being translated as Berserker when the Danish wanted to read Continental knight stories.
>>340434139
french subtitles are usually in french.
>>340416480
What the fuck happened at the bottom one. Are they trying to make him a goofy guy? Because calling yourself daddy still sounds weird
>>340416480
I won't but the one on the left it's as basic as it can get, might as well go full /v/ autism and put three words. Generic JRPGs are fucking trash.
>>340434612
Le hon hon hon hon.
