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Are you feeling it, /v/?
I'm really feeling it
>>340398913
>feeling anything for nintendo besides despair
>>340398913
There's nothing to feel.Because it's a girl.
>>340398913
Nintendo has to earn my feelings.
DUDE ZELDA REHASHES LMAO
Linkle when?
>>340399719HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
Yes. I don't get why /v/ is so adamant to hate this game.
It's probably good, but not Link Awakening good.
The best zelda games are that ones that actually don't follow the mainline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_fyOkrteqM
after watching this i'm ready to be disappointed.
>>340398913
Source of pic?
>>340403553
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/nintendo-outlines-e3-2016-related-activities-new-legend-zelda-artwork
yea im feeling the amiibos and the outdated gameplay and graphics nintendo will show. feeling it right in my bowels, like diarrhea.
>>340402448
This didn't even look that good.
I really cant help but feel pessimistic about this game
I just dont think they can make a good Zelda anymore
>>340401876
the anti-nintendo circlejerk has been festering intensely recently with adamantly hated stuff like PMCS and MPFF
>>340398913
It'll be great.
>>340404258
>outdated gameplay
that is a thing that don't exist been a long while, given the fact the gameplay is mostly unchanged since around the end of the PS2 era.
Why is Zelda blue?
>>340404798
To distinguish from link, when you play with both using a mandatory WiiU control gimmick.
>>340398913
I'm feeling tfw no gf.
>>340404932
Then equip some.
Of course you will lose some of your memories in the process, but will get more powerful.
>>340404739
>that is a thing that don't exist been a long while
>that is a thing that don't exist been a long while
k
one day link woke up and decided to take a shit because hey he's the hero of time. so link went up to epona and said "epona i want you to be my shitter" and since epona was link's bitch she opened her mouth. link pulled down his stained chainmail and began to shit in epona's mouth. epona was forbidden to express any emotions but at this moment she was feeling very aroused.
link's face turned red as he grunted and strained to push his log of shit out of his ass. he farted and little shit particles flew into epona's eyes. epona's eyes teared up, not from the pain of the shit particles nor from the paint-peeling stench coming from link's unwashed ass, but from the sheer ecstasy of being link's shitter. link noticed this and began to grunt harder, teasing the horny mare.
link noticed that epona was whinnying as her clit got erect and her vagina moist. "stop that this instant" commanded link, noticing his own 3-incher was growing hard as well. epona whined and reluctantly stopped whinnying. with a final grunt and a smelly fart, link's log of shit finally dropped from his ass into epona's mouth.
link turned around and watched as epona chewed the shit log. "eat it bitch. eat it all" said link. epona pretended she hated doing this so much but her throbbing clit and moans of joy told link otherwise. "swallow it" ordered link but epona didn't want to swallow it yet. she wanted to savor the shit. "SWALLOW IT RIGHT NOW HYAAH" screamed link as he began wang-slapping epona across the face.
>>340404282
You know i shouldn't really waste my time cause you're probably dumb as fuck, but this was a tech demo that was released in 2012 to showcase the potential of a next gen Zelda on wii u hardware. considering it's not a full fledge game and solely only a single room it's no wonder why it's fluid and highly detailed.
Here's zome of the Zelda wii U gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0y4hv62YEw
it's realisticly what Nintendo's capable of. The big open world and the game as a whole (at this point) takes a toll and the sacrifice is the visual quality in favor of a style that allows the game to play fluidly in its massive world. Yu can see that the world as big as it is doesn't compare to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUFFVATu9Lg or the tech demo. If you honestly feel as tho the tech demo (be it not an actual representation of the final product) doesn't look good in any regards you probably dont have opinions worth acknowledging in the first place
It was first announced in 2013 with a 2015 release date. If it's good I'll be happy but goddamn I've really soured on the whole thing since then.
>>340398913
I literally cannot care less about Zelda anymore than I do right now.
Going to post every time I see this that a female link is fucking dumb and representative of everything that is wrong with gaming.
Fine with females in videogames, not fine with pandering.
>>340405194
List 3 games that did innovated gameplay in a way that actually improved it released on the last 10 years.
>>340405541
I agree. Especially because Link has evolved over the years from a player avatar into an iconic character that's a constant in the ever changing world of Zelda.
If you want to strip that from him and dumb down his personality (in his actions, motivations, and animations) because you can't self insert into a character that's not an approximation of you or GOD FORBID you're a waifufaggot, then fuck you.
I hate what Skyrim and Bioware has done to the video game audience, where every game is expected to have a custom protagonist and empty open world.
>>340398913
It'd better be the best game Nintendo's ever created if they're not showing anything else this year.
>>340405443
Agreed. I literally cannot care any more about Zelda less than I did more than now.
Gusy, guys!
I just discovered a new kernel of insight while watching Aonuma's TPHD interviews.
MORE WATER CONFIRMED!
>>340406347
water is gay
>>340406347
I hope so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2yFA0-B4
Aonuma gets it
>>340406590
We're made of 70% water.
no fuck off
>>340399143
You don't like feeling up girls?Just got the jokeMaybe he's a beautifultranswoman
>>340404258
>outdated gameplay and graphics
...wut
>>340406794
>1:46
>hits ping-pong with his back turned.
Woah, this is the closest thing I've ever seen to an Edgar Cayce reading recorded on camera.
>>340405908
Pretty much. Tbh it's one of the reasons I didn't play witcher is because I don't like an RPG not being me BUT Zelda is more of an adventure game with a story.
If they wanted to make a "Zelda" game where you play as Zelda or a creed type game playing and a Gerudo with a female protagonist that would actually make sense, and probably be pretty sweet. Just please don't fuck a legend like that.
>>340407121RC Nunchaku
he's a fraud
>>340405261
>epona was forbidden to express any emotions
>he farted and little shit particles flew into epona's eyes
>she wanted to savor the shit
You're a regular Murakami.
>>340398913
I'm really enjoying the concept art for this game, but that's about it
>>340406801
that explains everything
>>340406208
Amen. I could care less that I previously could not begin to start caring.
>>340407145
But Geralt himself is the best thing about the Witcher man, he's a great character.
And playing as him, a character with his own emotions and personality, is refreshing when every other big RPG throws you in the role of a blank slate.
>>340407145
Stop replying to yourself, shitlord
>>340406941
>RC Nunchaku
What did you mean by this?
>>340407305
not enough references to western culture for whatever fucking reason to be murakami. also pointless sex scenes
>>340407420
Yeah, I could literally care less about caring more than I cared about Zelda when I can't even not care more about less than.
>>340407531
Whoops, meant for >>340407281
>>340398913
Princess Zelda's probably going to be ugly as sin if Link himself looks that awful
>>340398913
>right-handed
WAGGLE MOTION SHIT CONFIRMED
>>340406347
There hasn't be a 3D Zelda WITHOUT water controls, and water is pretty prevalent in all the 2D games as well, so if anyone assuming the Wii U/NX game to NOT feature water would be an intelectually challenged individual.
>>340407712
Oh hey, they sharpened his facial features.
Looks way more masculine than the first preview we got.
>>340407959
Still has that faggy hair and stupid as fuck outfit. when are the going to confirm a proper tunic?
>>340408035
your face is stupid as fuck
>>340398913
Are you feeling it, /vr/?
>>340407712
Nintendo recognizes waifubait, I expect goddess levels out of Zelda in this game.
Also I want the nose to return.
>>340407615
nunchaku don't work
they're dumb and make no sense
China didn't want to admit to making something so stupid and they have computers to make them look like they work
Bruce Lee was a cyborg, he was the only man capable of using the RC Nunchaku, but he was forbidden to have an offspring
once he did, they killed him for disobeying orders
they let his son live
but then one day they started to realise his son was awakening his powers
so he was killed too
>>340408282
I want Zelda to be allowed to actually do something instead
>>340407712
>>340398913
>mfw I will never use watercolors so good
I don't understand how people are so pessimistic about this game. Nintendo is in a bad spot but they've poured a shit ton of time and money into this project and the whole point is that they admitted Zelda was stale and they're going in a new direction. The point is to finally bring it back to the forefront.
Fuck you all, I'm excited.
>>340408445
that's exactly the problem. They've taken too long. Miyamoto can shove his quote up his ass, delayed games turn out shit
>>340408537
Ocarina of Time wasn't shit.
>>340408428
That's more of a drier acrylic effect
>>340408576
And was only delayed a year. The track record for more recent games is much worse
>>340408578
well, I will never know how even draw
>>340408035
The only major difference is the blue colour and lack of chain mail (and chain mail has only been present for TP and SS). It is a proper tunic
>>340408421
This isnt a handheld Zelda game.
Console Zeldas exist only to be fapped on.
>>340408537
It's been in development for 5 years. Give me one example of a Nintendo game that was in development a similar amount of time that turned out bad. You can't. Nintendo is in a bad spot because of the Pii U. They're going to bounce back. You'll see, anon. You'll ALL SEE
>>340407431
I'm almost as surprised as you to see rational discourse on this board but alas I'm not perpetuating the one man myth of /v/.
Either tell us your thoughts or fuck off edgelord we're talking about games.
>>340408819
>Blue
>no hat
>proper
Unless it's somehow and adult version of Wind Waker Link's clothes it's bullshit
>>340408836
That didn't happen until SS
>>340399059
pretty much in the same boat.
>>340407578
Tell me about it, caring about more than less of caring about Zelda got more and more pointless pointless for me. I just felt careless.
>Link has to wear bulky tunic with stupd hat all the time
Being the hero/heroine is suffering.
>>340407561
There're pointless sex scenes in Murakami. But he doesn't swear. Shit would have been feces.
>>340399059
>feeling despair on behalf of a company
Seek help.
Why can't Nintendo make "big" games anymore? Do they simply not have the resources or talent to match western studios?
The last console Zelda was pathetically small in scope compared to stuff like The Witcher 3, for example.
>>340398913
Not really. Zelda only gives you that sense of grand adventure when you're a little kid. I enjoy the games, but they're all jam packed with tedium, and I don't really know why the 3D Zelda games are seen as milestones for every generation, or these definitive gaming experiences. Every person has a different vision of what he or she wants out of them as well, so they always end up disappointing. This game in particular looks to be chasing trends, which makes me highly skeptical.
>>340408313
Well I certainly learned something today.
>>340398913
>that short, patchy grass
DOWNGRADE CONFIRMED
>>340408750
Drawing is easy though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X5NJleYJQ
>>340405443
I don't give a shit how time has aged them. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword were ALL disappointments. WHY do people give a shit about 3D Zelda?
>>340409373
I SAID CONSUMMATE V's! CONSUMMATE!
>>340409223
Neither were as fun as Dragon's Dogma.
>>340407346
Top kek
Why do you fags think the hate for this game is more recent?
You have to be the biggest retard to think Nintendo will suddenly make an amazing Zelda game after garbage like TP and SS only because
>muh open world
>muh bullet time
>muh modern Nintendo isn't creatively bankruptbesides the younger dudes who made Splatoon
>>340409421
The only 3D Zelda before SS I was disappointed by was MM
>>340408906
>Unless it's somehow and adult version of Wind Waker Link's clothes
Why the fuck wouldn't it be, though.
There's this guy. And the costume he wore in the SS opening hour.
>>340409575
Those outfits weren't plastered all over the promo art. If they''re changing Link's signature look, they've waited too long to give a reason for it
>>340409549
They had a lot of time to learn. They kind of have to impress now.
I also didnt mind TP, SS was very disappointing though.
>>340409223
3D Zelda has never even pretended to compare to other open world games in sheer size.
Until the upcoming one, that is.
Not sure how that will pan out for them.
>>340409704
Most Zelda games havent been revealed as this game was, and delayed this hard. They are just saving it for the full reveal.
>>340409480
Guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.
>>340409886
That happened once.
>>340409704
Every new Zelda promotion has tries something new, so I think you're being a little pedantic here.
They can do whatever they feel like.
So far it really only is the cores audience that is excited for this game anyway. He might show up in the green garb come E3.
>>340409870
Given that Fi was literally the first thing they revealed about SS, I'm worried about that.
>>340398913
I'm glad they're keeping the blue tunic.
>>340398913
Why don't they come out and say that it's a girl?
There is no way that is a male link.
>>340410073
>Doesn't know how the Japanese operate
That Link is too ugly to pass as a female protag over there
>>340409992
But we didn't know who she was or what she did. It was a long time before we knew SS would be a Master Sword origin story. You really can't compare the development/publicity of this Zelda to any others. I don't know why you're clinging so hard to this argument.
>>340409992
She was, however in an art piece that used the TP visual style, and then the whole game still did a one-eighty and became an impressionist painting.
>>340410073
but it is you dumb faggot
This is a prequel to Wind Waker, right? Or a sequel?
>>340409728
I always hated SS, but I liked TP when I first played it 5 years ago.
Now, after playing through TPHD, I pretty much ruined my nostalgia for it because of how lame it actually is.
>>340410157
To show that Nintendo has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt of this game
>>340410171
The impressionism worked horribly
>>340409790
That's because other games were compared to Zelda, once.
Now Zelda is struggling to stay relevant.
>>340410191
It's acashgrab.
>>340410073
There's every way it's a male. Undfortunately.
He's wearing more eyeliner than ever before. And a ponytail.
But hey, at least he's dropped the earrings.
Later in the game, he's be seen sporting a full beard, sleeve tats, and purple leggings.
>>340410191
>LoZ timeline
I don't mind the idea of a timeline, I mind that they sort of remade Ocarina of Time and didn't add in the alternate endings.
How lazy can a single company be?
Nintendo doesn't know how to make good videogames anymore.
Can you still feel let down if you know you're -going- to be let down?
>>340410270
>The impressionism worked horribly
It didn't work all to well. Still a much prettier game that TP though. Even if also an even worse game.
>>340398913
I've lost all interest in Nintendo, and it simply isn't possible for me to care any less about the new Zelda title.
>>340410371
real talk though being able to grow a beard on link would be dank
>>340410303
Games were never compared to Zelda in terms of scope.
Unless you were exclusively talking to the feeblest of console peasants, at least.
>>340410230
Hmm, I guess I'll steer clear of playing that for a while then.
I really hope that the rumors about it having a more action-game DMC/Bayo inspired battle systems are true. Because having Zelda take inspiration from the genre might bring stylish games back into the limelight, and also because it'd piss off all the Zelda purists and make all the "Make it more like Dark Souls" faggots cry in their beds.
>>340398913
Honestly couldn't care about Zelda, or even Nintendo at this point. Same issue I had with Twilight Princess. Took too long to release because of the Wii version, just like the NX.
Plus why would anyone be on board to throw away more money on the NX after seeing how the Wii U faired?
>>340410395
>Game company makes children's toys
>Anon grows up
>Accuses company of not knowing how to make good games anymore even though they're making things of the same exact quality as before.
>>340398913
>when there's a damn good chance Nintendo will make the game's overworld as empty and pointless a void as Wind Waker's sea
Yeah, pass
>>340410371
>>340410494
I'm honestly surprised the series doesn't have a character creator at this point. If we're going the lazy route and not give the series any writing or narrative, or Link any character, may as well give us customization.
I'll reiterate, Nintendo will never top Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Okami or >>340409482
>>340410632
>even though they're making things of the same exact quality as before
This is not even close to true. I didn't even own Nintendo consoles as a kid.
>>340410379
This is Nintendo we're talking about. If they were any lazier they'd be Tiger Electronics.
>>340410230
>because of how lame it actually is.
Gave me a lot of the same feels as Okami in that regards. Tons of good ideas brought up, but with no pay-offs following up on the promises these ideas hold.
When the sabotage team from Telma's bar shows up at the castle, and you're like "SWEET, I CAN'T WAIT TO FIGHT ALONGSIDE THESE GUYS!" only to realise they're gone again.
>>340410693
They've already done it multiple times
>>340407712
Is this official artwork?
>>340410827
Unfortunately
I have zero faith in Nintendo's ability to make a good game in this day and age. It's not even skepticism anymore. I just know it's going to disappoint and not live up to the ridiculously massive hype it's generated.
I think that's part of it. It's been so hyped and built up over the years and Nintendo's been completely radio silent on it, so people have been creating these wild expectations that you know modern Nintendo can't deliver on.
>>340410694
>nd not give the series any writing or narrative, or Link any character
Well, I don't feel that's the case, and I'd much rather have a silent Link than a silent bozo I've designed myself.
But I don't like character customization in general, so I'm a little off to a side in this discussion.
We've had
>"Genki athletic girl" Zelda in Wind Waker
>"Student council president" Zelda in Twilight Princess
>"Childhood Friend Love Interest" Zelda in Skyward Sword
I hope she's a tomboyish Tsundere now.
>>340410907
Every anon's a shitty art critic
>>340410578
Honestly I think Zelda would be better of with combat more like Onimusha than DMC or Souls.
It's the closest to what Zelda already is, it's just more mechanically sound and exaggerated.
>>340411068
Technically, that's what they were going for in Ocarina of Time.
>>340398913
no.
>>340410947
You don't have to partake in hype though. And you don't have to assume that others are mega hyped.
Making a good game also has nothing to do with living up to hype either.
I think Nintendo still makes good games, people have just come to expect the nearly impossible of them.
>>340411068
What if she is a rich netorare ganguro girl?
>>340411068
>I hope she's a tomboyish Tsundere now.
>>340411110
>shitty art critic
Critical of shitty art.
Splatoon was released just one year ago, why are there so many "Nintendo cant make good games now" posts? Has the anti-censorship posting hit people that hard?
>>340411068
Here's hoping she's a surly loner.
![monado_buster__symbol_smash_4__by_monado_buster-d7x9mqj[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3eg5Car.png "monado buster symbol smash 4 by monado buster-d7x9mqj[1]")
>>340398913
IM REALLY FEELING IT
>>340411283
They will argue that Splatoon isn't good, and basically isn't even a game. And that Nintendo technically didn't make it. Don't get them started.
>>340410694
character customization is stupid
so is dragons dogma but you can't talk negative about it on here so I'm not going to bother. Just play that instead
>>340411283
I hate online multiplayer.
>>340411068
Feral bitch who dont need no man!
>>340411352
>>Zelda will never have a world or cast of characters as fun and engaging as the original Xenoblade
Wind Waker came close, but Aonuma has expressed zero interest in actually trying to improve on what that game did.
So what can Nintendo do to make this new Zelda compete with its peers? Somehow I doubt it could take the industry by storm like OOT did but I'd be glad if it was a return to the classic formula of the NES/SNES games but done in 3D.
>>340399719
That model is nice
That animation is very bad
>>340411559
Literally any JRPG can do that. Zelda doesn't need to.
>>340411559
>Wind Waker's sea
>engaging
I'll give you the cast, but the world? Bullshit.
>>340401876
If I hate it, I can't be disappointed.
>>340411717
Spoken like a true drone
Alright guys, how would this game surpass Ocarina as the best Zelda ever?
>Overworld feels new and distinct from OoT and TP
>Not too open
>Decent-sized villages and towns with lots of people
>Minimum 7 full-sized dungeons
>Dungeons aren't just re-imaginings of standard stuff (Forest Temple, Fire Temple)
>Bring back magic, manual shielding/shield aiming, random items (deku sticks, bottled water)
>Combat is at least as good as Darksiders (ei 4/10 on the complexity scale)
>No major graphics problems (blurry textures, horrible LOD)
God I hope it's okay.
>>340398913
/ic/ here, just stopping by to say that's a gorgeous illustration. Great contrast and structure. Very pretty.
>>340411727
I said it came close.
While sea certainly has flaws the idea behind the Great Sea itself was a good one. It just needs a chance to be fully executed
>>340411409
You can critique Dragon's Dogma, I don't mind. It has plenty of flaws, but I guarantee any you can name can be applied to every LoZ.
You're not wrong either, character customization is stupid to some degree, and would be stupid in LoZ, but what else can be offered?
The series doesn't want to advance itself by adding a worthwhile narrative or characters with memorable dialogue.
The series doesn't want to advance itself gameplay-wise. If it had any sense it would have introduced actual jumping, I.E. a jump button, in Twilight Princess. I mean, what sort of adventure doesn't have platforming?
Two things LoZ could revive, but it's chosen not to up to this point: Puzzles and Platforming. So two elements it chooses not to have, on top of the aforementioned writing and gameplay.
What's the point? Why would I play LoZ over DD? Exploration? Not likely.
>>340411559
Fuck you though.
Zelda characters are many times more interesting to me than those in Xenoblade.
>>340411585
I need more shitty fanmade Zelda names, please.
>>340411832
Darksiders' combat is shit though.
>>340411896
As a whole series, but no single game has pulled them all together
>>340411881
>but I guarantee any you can name can be applied to every LoZ.
Horribly generic human characters.
>>340411751
Focus on shitty stories is one of the reason why Zelda sucks today.
>>340412054
Hour long cutscenes are not necessary to do any of the things I mentioned
>>340412126
Well in that case I could argue that the Majora's Mask side characters were pretty good.
>>340410494
What if Link could grow____tits?
>>340411949
I disagree.
I know Xenoblade has a LOT of characters, but interacting with them felt a little too stilted to me, and many of them were not well enough written or of an interesting enough visual design for me to care very deeply.
>>340398913
I'm still convinced this is Zelda and Link will be revealed at E3 with a more masculine model. Instead of some mythical entity, Zelda is your companion ala Bioshock Infinite and uses archery to help you out in combat.
>>340412230
And I would agree. Not just create a group of characters that good and turn them into the main cast. MM's biggest flaw is that its best parts are off to the side
>>340412272
I was referring to the main crew that the story around.
The closest Zelda has come to doing that would be with Wind Waker's pirates, but they were never given a proper chance to shine
>>340411907
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Fan_Games
Have fun.
>>340412389
That makes no sense, we've seen them play as this character, its Link, the main playable character, not a sidekick.
>>340412457
I don't see how you could do that since Zelda was never a party-based series. Only a handful of characters can be considered the "main" ones.
>>340412638
Do what they did with the explorers in Telma's bar but make them active and useful
ST Zelda is also another great example.
>>340412457
True, there's a good sense of comraderie between the main cast. But their faces and clothes were sufficiently animu for me to not connect in the same way as I do with Zelda designs.
>>340412710
You mean like have them accompany you in every dungeon?
>>340411979
Hey, you sort of got me. The humans really are boring? I guess the excuse could be made that, and I don't know if you've played it so I'll tag it...That Pawns and Humans are basically one in the same, so the soulless embodiment that Pawns represent extends to all humans aside from the Arisen
Regardless, that's not an excuse. It does have very poor characters outside of the Arisen(s), I.E. THE Arisen, the King, Grigori, etc...
However, I personally feel this applies to Legend of Zelda. I can remember how every character looks, their designs are incredibly memorable and their features distinct, but as characters? They have not a single memorable line between them from the entire series. They aren't so much characters as pinups. Easily recognizable, easily forgettable.
>I coveted that wind, I suppose
The only line from the entire series that stuck with me. Tragedy is always welcome, and they played it relatively well in WW.
But then you jump to Twilight Princess and worse still, Skyward Sword, and he's butchered.
>>340412389
Keep that hope up.
I kept thinking throughout most of Twilight Princess that Midna would be revealed to actually be Ganon in disguise.
>>340412553
Or IS it? Why does this "Link" have a ponytail? And why does every art seem to accentuate tiny breasts?
>>340412852
It's because I know that Zelda can create good characters that I'm frustrated with its failure to capitalize.
>>340412861
They could help in several ways. The point is to not waste good design and writing on cutscene fodder.
>>340411832
That would be a start, but I'd like them to bring back the optional items a stamina meter from SS. Those were one of the few good new idea from SS, and Zelda has a bad habit of forgetting about small improvments to the gameplay.
>>340413001
>Why does this "Link" have a ponytail?Venom Punished LinkIt's actually Ganondorf
>>340413001
The ponytail's for samurai.
>>340412912
I was talking about visual design mostly. Of human characters.
I think Zelda is quite far ahead of Dragon's Dogma in that department, even considering how they aren't trying to do the same thing.
Dialogue wise it's true. I don't remember remember much writing from Zelda. It seems more concerned with conveying personality and mood than snappy memorable lines.
>>340413591
>I was talking about visual design
Oh yeah no doubt.
>>340398913
People complain about the game not being out and what not but I'm honestly fine with taht since we're getting some pretty neat art.
>>340411068
Yandere Zelda when
>>340413796
But yeah, I haven't actually played Dragon's Dogma. They only people I know who do aregirlsthat are huge dragon fans in general. But they also play and love Dragon Age Inquisition and Skyrim, so I didn't entirely know how to digest their recommendations.
>>340412912
>You've met a terrible fate, haven't you?
>>340411068
I want a delinquent Zelda or anIdol Zelda
>>340414058
>Grills
>love Dragon Age Inquisition and Skyrim
For the record, I'm male, and I cannot recommend either of those. I do recommend Dragon's Dogma, if that wasn't obvious enough.
And regardless of my rampant dis-taste for LoZ, I'm still looking forward to this game. I already have a Wii U so I'm definitely getting it, I just hope a lot of footage comes out of E3.
>Please have an overworld worth exploring
>>340409421
Wind Waker was different but great and Twilight Princess did everything OoT did but better. Sure, neither of them were as good as Majoras Mask but very few games are.
I'm not gonna defend Skyward Sword though. Because seriously, what were they thinking?
>>340413001
I truly think the breasts thing is just a shortcoming of the rig for the 3D model. He's bent forward, but the rib cage doesn't sink into the abdomen like it would on and actual human, giving a much more concave look than would be expected from such a pose. Makes the pecks stand out like breasts would.
>>340414057
ST Zelda probably grew up into one
>>340414278
I'll give Dragon's Dogma a spin eventually, as the mechanics and intricate world has me enticed, it just hasn't really been readily available on a platform very convenient to me.
>Please have an overworld worth exploring
Oh absolutely. It can't just be big for the sake of being big.
Epona avoiding trees on here own, with the mane flying around like that looked pretty fucking badass thouigh, so whatever they end up doing, I'm confident it'll at least be a fun game to dick around in for some amount of time.
>>340411192
>Scenes of Zelda getting gangbanged and mindbroken by Ganon and his minions each time you conquer a dungeon.
>By the end she's completely mindbroken and becomes Ganon's cocksleeve
>>340398913
At this point I'm more hyped for my Toon Zelda Nendoroid than this game.
>>340402239
>liking worst zelda
>>340415097
How could LA possibly be worst though?
Alright alright, if your first game was Link to the Past, I'd understand how you could see Link's Awakening as just being a gated cut-rate version.
I like it better though. To me it sits as the perfect in-between for the evolution that happened from LttP and OoT. With a pretty good sense of humor to boot.
>>340409421
I bet you only hate the newer console zeldas because you're a contrarian cuck
>>340409565
SS was the best one, though I agree with MM being worse than dogshit
>>340410270
Go to bed arin
>>340415475
WW > OoT >TP > MM > SS
>>340415604
Why does being pessimistic make me Arin?
>>340411681
>That animation is very bad
Are you sure the animation wasn't meant to be comical like that?
>>340412230
They weren't, though
>>340409991
I feel since there's a mismatch of various clothing pieces (gerudo style bracers, ww style tunic etc) and that the recent teaser had him carrying a claymore of some kind I think there might be an equipment system of some sort outside the standard Zelda fare.
>>340415280
>defending worst zelda
>>340415606
Put ss above WW and your order is accurate
>>340416190
I finished the other four but SS was so bad I quit after a few hours.
>>340415697
I don't know arin, how are you pessimistic?
>>340416259
Maybe it's you that's bad if you were willing to finish MM
SS>TP>OOT>WW>MM
This is the correct order
>>340416287
Everything since E3 2015 for Nintendo has been horrible
>>340398913
Yea, I'm feeling 720p/30fps
>>340416437
MM was short enough to tolerate it. SS had tons of padding with hours of cutscenes
>>340416465
Nobody cares about your opinion arin. Shouldn't you be watching your wife fuck herself on a big black cock
>>340416437
Haha what a faggot
>>340416590
MM had a stupid time limit and no original art style, not to mention shitty bosses and dungeons. At least I played through SS more than once
>>340416482
WiiU can do 720p/60fps.
But you can bet your bottom dollar nintendo will be aiming for 1080p/25fpsish.
>>340413001
yes it is stop being a fucking faggot like you're on some scooby doo episode you retard
>>340416660
You're only mad I'm right. No sane man would put WW that high
>>340416719
But it had a good world, characters, and story to make the experience worthwhile. SS failed tremendously in all three of those areas
I love Epona being a gigantic workhorse again, but I wish they'd give her the classic color scheme of warm red-brown coat and white mane. The dark brown coat and dark mane just makes her look generic.
>>340416770
Almost every single Nintendo game on the Wii U is 1080/60 fps.
>>340416839
>3 day time limit
>everyone is doing the same shit over and over
>overworld is literally nothing
>majora was a shitty character
>Skull kid was no better
Yeah such a great game, faggot
>>340416770
Liek Xenoblade chronicle x 60 fps amirite? oh wait...
>>340417151
>Liek
>amirite
>...
ask me how I know you're a faggot
>>340417113
Not a great game, but one worth playing. SS was an embarrassment and the point where I realized that Nintendo was in serious decline
Is the recent Nintendo can't make games anymore thing just cause of star fox? Like yes I know there's always been people who say that but you really can't seem to even talk about Zelda u anymore.
>>340398913
No and I can't wait for Nintendo to completely fall on their face at this years E3.
>>340417048
Actually you should fact check that one.
Only Smash does that.
All the others are either 720p/60fps (nintendo land,mario kart, mario 3D world, toadthing..) or 1080p/30fps with drops (Zelda remasters, Monhun).
>>340401876
/v/ has always hated nintendo newfag
>>340417301
pessimism has been running rampant ever since it became clear that 2016 would be a shit year to be a Nintendo-only guy.
Wait until they reveal the NX with Animal Crossing at launch and everybody will be on board again. It's just how it works
Let me be blunt; if Zelda U's open world isn't fucking fantastic, the game will be garbage.
Falling for the Open World meme? Go ahead, but make it fucking good. I'm so tired of poor and half assed Open Worlds, I'm tired of filler garbage taking up the whole map, I'm tired of garbage mission structures that makes the open world nothing more than an obstacle in your way.
Zelda need to pull a fucking royal flush in its level design, just like how Ocarina showed how you make 3D action adventure games, Zelda U needs to show everyone how you fucking make an Open World game.
>>340408890
>It's been in development for 5 years. Give me one example of a Nintendo game that was in development a similar amount of time that turned out bad
Super Smash Bros Brawl
>>340416930
That's not Epona.
>>340417667
It's time to innovate with the games themselves again Nintendo. Make an overworld that others will use as a base like you did with OoT, or don't bother. Simple as.
>>340398913
Fuck no.
>Delayed a million times
>Not even Wii U exclusive anymore
>Aonuma thinks Souls is "hard just for the sake of being hard" even though people like Miyazaki have repeatedly stated that they don't design with that mindset, especially in DaS1/DeS
It's gonna be a shitshow.
>>340418013
Brawl's problems were due to Sakurai's mental illness. Not because of being in development hell
>>340398913
I hope this time Link is a woman. I don't want to keep feeling gay about wanting to fuck his boipucci (seriously, why do they almost always make him so feminine and/or androgynous?)
>>340418293
>Aonuma thinks Souls is "hard just for the sake of being hard"
>he fell for the "interview"
>hood
>the other shit we've seen
Wind Waker 2.0
And I didn't even mind Wind Waker.
Technically speaking, Zelda was one of the first open world games pretty much, so "going open world" is basically returning to the origins, IF the open world is rich as it was on the original games.
>>340418334
Well Miyamoto's mental illness is much worse so Zelda U is confirmed to be garbage.
I mean they haven't really shown anything yet. So there's nothing to be excited or pessimistic about yet.
>>340418528
Yes, but Miyamoto's not fully in charge of Zelda U and his mental illness only ruins Mario games or anything with motion controls
Aonuma's mental illness is minor in comparison
>>340418492
Speaking of which, are we even sure this game is in Hyrule?
>>340398913
dude genderfluid link l m a o
>>340417667
>>340418178
It would be great to see Zelda be that relevant again, but the current Zelda team isn't up to the task.
>>340398913
that's not epona, she has white hair, where is she
>>340418987
The only way to truly make Zelda "relevant" compared to other ultra-popular franchises like The Elder Scrolls is marketing.
That's it. That's what makes a game "relevant."
>open world
Why is this allowed?
>>340417113
>3 day time limit
The 3 day mechanic is a unique take for a 3d zelda game. Having the moon constantly looming over head and feeling pressured by the time limit makes MM stand out and not feel bland as fuck like TP and SS for example.
>everyone is doing the same shit over and over
How is this a complaint? In every Zelda game everyone just stands in one place and says the same thing. This game goes the furthest in any Zelda game to do more with the NPCs, giving them routines and multiple side quests.
>overworld is literally nothing
If you're talking about Termina Field then yeah it is. You can say the same about oot's hyrule field and the sky in SS for that matter. MM has 4 different areas outside of Termina that have stuff to do though as well as Clocktown and Romani Ranch.
>Majora was a shitty character
It's an evil haunted mask, and it serves its purpose fine. It's also the only 3d zelda to not have the big bad guy be Ganondorf/Ganondorf 2.0 in SS case. Plus the design of it is cool and fits well with the tone and mask motif of the game.
>Skull kid was no better
Skull kid actually had pretty good characterization for a Zelda game. He was a kid who pranked people all the time and nobody liked himlike you (:
>>340419453
Because Zelda1fags won't shut up
>>340419453
because some bitches bitched about skyward sword
>>340419442
That and to make the game look like the Zelda wiiu tech demo, not the cartoony style. Sigh, I wish Nintendo would be good but it's like they love fucking up. They just need to drop the children/family demographic because everyone knows kids usually play on ps or Xbox. Even 5 year Olds don't mess with the wiiU anymore.
>>340420610
>Sigh
link is blue in this because the cel-shaded fields of hyrule are overwhelmingly green.
>>340405443
>I LITERALLY can't care less about zelda
>enter zelda thread
well meme'd faggot
>>340398913
>Link now
Im blue, if i was green i would die, da ba bee da ba dieyes indeed im a guy
>>340412389
You're retarded. He's already masculine enough and looks nothing like a female.
>>340421128
>OP asks if you are feeling it in regards to Zelda
>Respond with how I feel about Zelda
>>340420869
I can believe that.
>>340411236
Your delusional ideas of how Tetra acted don't actually affect canon, you know.
>>340420779
I sometimes get sad-ish thinking about what Nintendo could've been. The actual word sigh was needed, sigh.
>>340421386
>Tomboy
>Tsundere
How is she not either of those things?
>>340398913
I'm so hyped it's not even funny.
I can feel the cancer spreading
>>340416063
No one can be this retarded.
>>340421565
Go to your doctor then.
This shit can kill you.
>>340421386
>>340421479
This. What the fuck did you play?
>>340421479
Because she never once acted like a tsundere the entire game. The only time she came close was when she called Link stupid because he -jumped off a cliff to attack a giant bird-.
>>340417368
But why?
>>340422069
>>340422069
>Because she never once acted like a tsundere the entire game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZrYdDlWvl8&t=2m
>I don't care about that island, b-baka...
>>340399059
All I feel is numbness. I ended up buying a ps3 for Persona 5 because I'm done with Nintendo
>>340398913
Why does the new art look so trashy.
It's like a post-college intern drew it.
>>340409041
I hear ya, caring less about Zelda literally can't care anymore about point then less of about Aonuma and more of Zelda and carelessly than more than of video games.
>>340405443
Going to have to agree and I am (or used to be?) a huge Zelda fan.
Given Nintendo's track record and the downward decline of this series - especially with Skyward Sword - I have no real reason to be excited anymore.
>>340422426
Eh... That's barely tsundere. Of course she had to lie to her pirate buddies about wanting to protect the island for any other reason, or else they might not agree to go along. Because they're all treasure hungry pirates.
Also, Tetra is likely more genuinely interested in the ancient treasures of the island. It's kind of implied Tetra had an interest in the relics of Hyrule.
>>340410809
I liked TP but that was fucking disappointing.
>>340405392
It was announced in 2014, you dumb ass
>>340421235
Kek
>>340422695
Wait... OP's image isn't fanart? That's official?
>>340422974
>Also, Tetra is likely more genuinely interested in the ancient treasures of the island. It's kind of implied Tetra had an interest in the relics of Hyrule.
Yes, but the game insists over and over that she's a kind person deep down when she acts rough on the outside. Right after the scene in the bomb shop she lets Link get the bombs and the pretends that it wasn't intentional. That's tsundere
>>340423224
Straight from Nintendo
>>340423224
Yes, that's official art, sadly.
>people are more hyped for Hyrule Warriors dlc than the new Zelda
IT'S AONUMA STYLE
>>340422695
the painterly look is great. i prefer this to boring ass renders.
>>340411068
I hope it's:
>"Actually proactive in the story or the very least has actual character development instead of doing nothing and being a damsel" Zelda
>>340423386
Still waiting to see who's chosen for the PH/ST pack
Those games had some great characters
>>340423263
What is tsun about it?
>>340423461
Swap LttP and Sheik
>>340402448
You do realize this is a tech demo to show Wii U's power, not an upcoming game, right?
>>340423536
Constantly insulting him and others while doing it
>>340423461
You never played Skyward Sword. The entire events of the game was literally Zelda's master plan.
>>340423738
Planning on being a do-nothing leech that manipulates Link into doing everything doesn't make for a good character
>>340423697
I don't recall her insulting Link over the bombs.
>>340423946
>That's mighty courageous of you... trying to
steal treasure from pirates. I suppose I should be shocked... but I'm more
amazed that you managed to survive after being tossed out of that tower...
From the look on your face, I have to guess you haven't saved your sister yet,
huh? You don't give things much thought, do you? You just rush in, never
thinking how badly things could go for you. Like just now... The only reason
you got what you did was because we left a simple-minded little rat like Niko
behind to look after things. No one else would have parted with our treasure
so easily. I assure you!
>>340423878
Isn't that actually what Sheik does?
>>340423878
She did plenty. But I see you don't feel like giving her any credit. So I'm not even going to waste my time listing everything she did. You would just wave it off anyway.
>>340423878
That sounds like the most realistic portrayal of female video game character in years.
>>340424127
Yes. that's why I posted
>>340423584
>>340411283
Splatoon was underwhelming and content-dry on release though. It's also repetitive and wasn't made by Nintendo's old-fart team.
This was.
>>340424101
Not seeing any insults.
>>340424101
She's right about anything though.
>>340424181
If what she did is so easily waved off, then it's probably because she didn't do much. Wind Waker is explicit about the fact that Link can't win against Ganondorf alone. Spirit Tracks has Zelda helping you constantly. SS does none of that.
>>340424258
>simple-minded little rat
She's insulting Niko to cover for her own softness. She's also calling Link reckless again when it's really meant to encourage him to put more though into what he does
>>340398913
After Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, no
I don't think open world is Nintendo's strong point
>>340423584
>>340424209
No, LttP did nothing in her game aside be kidnapped twice. At least Sheik taught you the songs and guided you to the temples to free the sages.
>>340424209
>>340424127
Sheik can literally be captured at any time if she reveals who she is. That's why she keeps her distance from Link. But she also teaches Link songs, and even fights against the spirit that escaped the well.
>>340424574
>No, LttP did nothing in her game aside be kidnapped twice.
Yes, but she has the best design and doesn't devour the story despite her uselessness
>>340424574
You call that fighting?
>>340424435
>If what she did is so easily waved off, then it's probably because she didn't do much.
Actually, it's more likely that you're just kind of a jerkoff.
>>340420610
Going to have to agree with this.
You think Nintendo would've learned that the cel-shaded shit like SS and WW just doesn't sell.
Shitty hardware or not, they need to let go of it if they actually want the games to break the 4-5 million barrier now.
>>340405263
>to showcase the potential of a next gen Zelda on wii u hardware.
>considering it's not a full fledge game
You just contradicted yourself. The tech demo was just made to showcase Wii U's hardware.
They had any franchise to pick as a base, and Zelda was the choice.
The tech demo has nothing to do about Zelda Wii U, or any other Wii U game. Also, this isn't the first time this happens.
>>340424736
>Ad-hominem
>>340424752
>I like to use words with no clue what they mean!
>>340424834
The person's character actually pertains to the matter though. As it's his character which determines how seriously he's willing to take any argument.
>>340425057
Except you haven't even made an argument yet, you're just using an insult as a way to dismiss any legitimate criticism that might come once you actually say something.
>>340424970
Pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.
In regards to Zelda, the cartoony shit just doesn't sell well, period.
Yet Nintendo keeps latching onto it, most likely out of production costs and their shit hardware.
But then, even Xenoblade X looked good despite the Wii U's shit hardware.
So this is just Nintendo being stupid and lazy again.
>>340424604
>even fights against the spirit that escaped the well
are you sure about that? Wasn't it more like "get flung around like a rag doll?"
>>340425283
Being celshaded isn't a synonym for cartoony
I want this open world trend to die.
>>340425378
That's true - it isn't, but Nintendo always uses a shitty, cartoonish art style to go with it.
>>340425528
When has Nintendo used cel-shading outside of the Wind Waker games
>>340425618
For Zelda?
Skyward Sword, Zelda U and several handheld games.
And guess what?
Nearly all of them under-performed in sales.
>>340425210
That's because you/he described her contribution as "nothing". Which is such a gross exaggeration, that it shows I'm not talking to a reasonable person. Someone with a measured opinion would give credit where credit is due.
>>340425773
And, as I said, you have no idea what cel-shading is. You probably think WWHD was cel-shaded too
>>340425818
The burden of proof is not on the person making a negative statement
>>340425857
It was and still is. Lighting fuck-ups changed it somewhat.
>>340398913
Please tell me this is the female Link
That is not a boy
>>340425398
I want this "Zelda is a puzzle game, Octoroks are hard" trend to die.
>>340426018
A game with celshading wouldn't have shadows like this
You're just another Sean Malstrom wannabe using cel-shading as a buzzword to cover for an inability to make a coherent statement
>>340423878
Zelda actually did a whole ton of stuff in Skyward Sword. It was quite explicitly implied that Zelda was off on her own grand adventure rivaling that of Link's own adventure.
She and Impa were a real pair of action girl adventurers. She traversed the same lands as you did, crawled through the same dungeons as you did, and unlocked magical powers and gimmicks as she did.
Just about every time you crossed paths Zelda had just made a big achievement. So while most of her adventure was admittedly off-screen, the game regularly reminded you of how active she was and what she was accomplishing. She is quite honestly one of the Zeldas that accomplished the most in her game.
>>340425987
Actually, it is on him in this case. Because I already presented something. And he left it uncontested, calling it "nothing". He put a negative label on something as a means to negate it. Without actually refuting it.
>>340418818
From what I remember of interviews, yeah, sound like Aonuma kept going on about "In this game, Hyrule is going to be larger" and such.
But there could be an asspull, sure.
>>340401876
Aonuma will never make a good Zelda game again.
This is the second time he has said he will "change" the series.
>>340426327
>Sean Malstrom
Anon, facts are facts. The toon Zeldas don't sell, they never will. Nintendo and Aonuma need to let go of this fetish for Zelda and ditch it.
So, i want to replay ocarina. 3DS remake or virtual console?
>>340425283
Did someone say cartoony cel shaded shit that doesn't sell?
>>340426404
>Zelda adventure dlc never
>>340426521
3DS if you have it
It gives the game a nice facelift
>>340426521
3DS version is more smooth and it's portable. It's pretty faithful.
>>340410809
I backtracked just to meet them down at the castle courtyard, only to find out they aren't anywhere in the castle.
For just a second, I felt like I wasn't alone in that battle. That I had companions.I still like the game tho'
I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who can't pick a favorite 3D Zelda and who does not hate any of them. I love them all for different reasons.
OoT had an awesome world and music, MM had an awesome tone and characters, TWW had that awesome sense of adventure, TP had awesome items and dungeons, and SS had an awesome story and gameplay. All in my opinion at least.
Basically, they all excel at something. I don't think a Zelda game could carry E3 alone, but I feel sorry for people who can't find at least one thing to love about each of them.
>>340422639
Usually when someone's done with something they just stop dealing with it.
>>340426404
>implied
Show, don't tell. You have to use words like "magical powers" and "big acheivements" because the game refuses to give specifics because that would require actual though and characterization
>>340426480
The first thing they teach you in any real statistics class is that correlation does not imply causation. There are other factors that you're either too stupid to realize or either choosing to ignore
Phantom Hourglass is actually the best selling handheld Zelda of all time, but you'll probably say that's because of how well the DS did while ignoring how poorly the Gamecube did while discussing Wind Waker.
>>340426521
3DS for 30 FPS instead of 20
>>340423056
>The Legend of Zelda for the Wii U was officially announced in the Wii U Direct presentation on January 23, 2013
They've been blue balling us for over 3 years now you mongoloid fuck
I hope that one leakfag was real, because does look like it would be different.
>actual cutscenes
>Link is a dick
>rival to Link
>no sheild, but more combo focused combat
>>340426595
It didn't sell.
It earned enough money to get a 3DS sequel and that's it.
Even then, it was a new IP. Not some legendary existing IP that suddenly had its atmosphere and art direction radically changed for the fuck of it, which is exactly what Zelda experienced with WW.
>>340424752
Yeah, TP sold over 8 million copies, almost twice what WW sold and more than Twice SS's sales. The industry's grown a lot between the two releases, which makes SS sales look even worse. You'd think nintendo should be more worried that one of their flagship fanchises isn't selling much.
>>340427069
Why the fuck wasn't there an Okami HD port on Wii U anyways?
Literally fucking made for it.
>>340427060
what are fake cutscenes?
I hope the dungeons suffer the same fate as Link Between Worlds
>>340426882
>Phantom Hourglass is actually the best selling handheld Zelda of all time, but you'll probably say that's because of how well the DS did while ignoring how poorly the
Because they actually advertised it and it was released on the DS - one of their most successful handhelds. But the game was utter shit and didn't have legs as a result.
Which is why Spirit Tracks bombed in return.
Face it, this shit doesn't sell for Zelda. It just fucking doesn't. There are exceptions like PH (hell, it may be the only exception which is why I said "NEARLY" every toon-styled game in one of my previous posts) but that's it.
>>340427060
Unless things have changed, a few of the gameplay clips have shown link with a sheild so I dunno how credible Mr. Leakfag is
Depends if WW HD goes on sale for dirt cheap or not. Upcoming Zelda itself is so uncertain of a thing to me that I'm not feeling shit until I see something worth feeling.
>>340410756QUARTER BIT
>>340398913
>right hand
FUCK NO
>>340426327
WWHD uses soft shading for reflective light, and cel shading for direct light. That's why when Link is shrouded in shadow, he appears to be softly shaded, because he's only being shaded with reflective light. But direct light still has that cel shaded crispness.
>>340427541
Well, the VGA footage specifically showed off the feature of jumping off your horse and, while in midair in slow motion, aiming your bow to hit enemies.
>>340427420
>But the game was utter shit and didn't have legs as a result.
But that has nothing to do with the artstyle. You're shifiting arguments. If the artstyle was the only reason then PH would never have done as well as it did.
Not to mention ST did about as well as LBW did.
>>340426669
>>340426683
>>340426903
3DS remake will be then
>>340427420
Jesus, just admit you have stocks invested in Nintendo. No person simply wanting to enjoy video games would bother with this shit.
>>340427613
It's not the real Link.
>Blue tunic
>No Epona
>Right handed
Figure it out.
>>340427841
So is Zelda going the Phantom Pain route?
>>340427841
I don't want to get Kojima'd again.
>>340427741
Nah, anon. You're the one who shifted the argument.
I said that the cartoony/cel-shaded games didn't sell and you attempted to refute my argument by claiming that I supposedly didn't know what cel-shading is. This isn't what the original argument was about. It was about shit like SS, WW, and the majority of the recent handheld games not selling well.
>>340427825
I don't have stocks invested in this sinkhole of a company.
I'm just a disgruntled fan who knows better and is mostly planning on moving on from them at this point.
>>340427841
Link has been right-handed since Wii TP though.
But I do agree that something's up.
>>340428316
>I said that the cartoony/cel-shaded games didn't sell and you attempted to refute my argument by claiming that I supposedly didn't know what cel-shading is. This isn't what the original argument was about. It was about shit like SS, WW, and the majority of the recent handheld games not selling well.
>I supposedly didn't know what cel-shading is
Because you don't
And yet now you suddenly acknowledge that game play and other issues can impact a game's sales and maybe that people simply aren't as autistic as you to base their purchase solely on graphics.
>>340428427
Link has been a slave to motion controls. Now that they're ditching the waggling, Link *should* be back to his lefthandedness. The fact that he isn't goes to show something's up.
>>340428316
ok so just be sincere and say you want a realistic artstyle because that's what you yourself want to see.
Also, can you at least get upset at something that actually matters like the gameplay? You're ready to drop Zelda because of its visual style?
Some fan you are
>>340428543
Anon, I'm sorry but graphics do matter, especially when it comes to the sales of a game.
I used to be an autistic Nintendo drone like you, blindly believing that they could do no wrong with their fuck-ups, but over the years I've learned; I know better now and I've mostly moved on.
And most fans and normies don't like this shit cartoonish approach that Nintendo's used for Zelda within the last decade.
And you're right that the gameplay is another issue - Zelda hasn't been good or groundbreaking in this department for years, either.
>>340428576
>goes to show that something is up
That Nintendo is lazier than ever, you mean?
>>340428969
You do realize that Twilight Princess was a complete bomb in Japan, right?
>>340424512
>I don't think open world is Nintendo's strong point
I doubt this as well, but we shall see. The only real comparison for contemporary Nintendo open world is Xenoblade X. Which both did great and failed at open world at the same time.
That said, there's no point in making judgements based on the little we've seen at the moment.
>>340423461
Twilight Princess.
>>340429082
Doubtful. How hard is it to make a left handed character?
>>340428875
>Also, can you at least get upset at something that actually matters like the gameplay? You're ready to drop Zelda because of its visual style?
No. I'm ready to drop Zelda and Nintendo at large for a variety of reasons though.
Shit, stale gameplay.
Shit padding.
Shit story and cardboard anime tropes.
Bland sidequests
Empty overworlds.
Forced gimmicks.
And also - a shitty atmosphere - something that graphics and art direction and the like do have an extreme effect over.
Sorry I didn't state all of my reasons in my initial post, anon. But that's not even what my initial post was about.
>>340416930
that's not epona, miyamoto called the horse epona instinctively but aonuma never confirmed it, only called it HORSE
>>340429098
Japan's sales don't mean fucking shit in comparison to the west and the rest of the world.
It's Nintendo's fault for not realizing that Zelda is predominately popular in the west either way. And now they're desperately trying to weeb it up for Japan, which has already moved on years and years ago.
>>340429440
>And also - a shitty atmosphere - something that graphics and art direction and the like do have an extreme effect over.
And yet Wid Waker is among the strongest in the series in this area
>It's Nintendo's fault for not realizing that Zelda is predominately popular in the west either way.
>Why does a Japanese company try to appeal to the Japanese
The west eats up Zelda no matter what. Even Wind Waker is pretty popular
>>340423386
she'll never be as cute as the artwork anyway
>>340426521
>3DS
>remake
aylmao changing 1 model is not a remake, try again aonumer
>>340428875
Not that anon. But I think passing on a game because of it's artstyle is a valid reason. I don't get the idea that we can praise a game for it's artstyle to no end. But if we're repulsed by it, then we're being unreasonable.
>Game is "open world"
>Cel shaded
>yet another ugly link
>Modern nintendo
Yeah, I have no hope for this game. Skyward sword 2.0. I'm not even gonna watch the livestream.
>>340430381
Disliking an artstyle is not grounds to deny a game a fair chance unless you're casual normie scum
Neogaf is feeling it.
>>340430658
It is fair, if you find the art style repulsive. There are a thousand games to play, why spend so many hours of your time looking at something you don't like looking at?
>>340430837
Like I said, casual normie scum.
>>340430958
You're being silly, it has nothing to do with being casual. As Zelda is a casual game. If people pass it up because they don't like it's toon style, then how does that make them casual? They're *avoiding* a casual game.
>>340431169
>If people pass it up because they don't like it's toon style, then how does that make them casual?
Because they're passing up the game without playing it and if good gameplay isn't enough to outweigh any issues with the visuals then they're the virtual definition of casual scum.
>Disliking a games art style is not a valid reason to not play a game
What the fuck am I reading?
Why is /v/ filled with literal bellends? I can play a game with shit graphics, but a game with a shit art style? Nope, I won't even give it the time of day.
What's that game called again.....Project Steam or whatever, I didn't even give that shit a test run to see if I liked any other aspect of the game purely because the art style is fucking hideous.
>>340431357
That's even sillier, because there are a lot of games that are worth a try, and you can't try them all. Unless you're very wealthy, and have a ton of time on your hands. Otherwise, you will always be forced to try one game over another. It's impossible to give every game a chance.
Like I said, there are a thousand good games out there. There's no reason to latch on to one with a shitty style, just because it might be good. When you know for sure there are better looking games with just as good gameplay, if not better.
Regardless of all that though, there are simply styles that repulse you. Why is it ok for an artstyle to be considered an attraction, pulling the player in, and being the reason the player gave the game a chance. But the opposite can't be true?? That makes no sense to me.
>>340431506
No, anon, you're a casual for not giving this game a chance. :^)
>>340431918
I'm talking about Zelda fans though. If you're a fan of the series then you should be willing to at least try it no matter how it looks
>>340432089
I disagree. If a wild hair got up Aonuma's ass, and he decided to make Zelda look like this >>340432050 then I completely understand if fans want to pass it up.
>>340431506
>Nope, I won't even give it the time of day.
And people like you are why the series is now the mess that it is. Not creativity allowed lest it end up triggering some retard.
>>340432308
And I would give it a chance if the gameplay looked good or if there was at leas a reason for it. Wind Waker wanted to be upbeat and TP wanted to be downtrodden. Their visual styles reflect this.
>>340432312
But I'm not claiming Zelda's art style is bad. I like how this new Zelda looks so far.
I'm simply agreeing with the other guy that disliking a game based on art style is completely valid.
>>340432452
And what if you don't want the particular flavor of "upbeat" WW is selling? Or perhaps you don't want the brand of "downtrodden" TP is selling? It's like you're completely ignoring the *video* part of videogames. It's an audiovisual medium, as well as a game.
>>340432763
I like variety in my games and am willing to give each game a shot to sell me on what it wants to do. I'm aware that will always be casuals who drop things based on appearance but I'm not obligated to acknowledge their opinions as valid in a discussion.
>>340398913
Is he right handed again? lel.
>>340433256
You should reevaluate what Zelda's appeal is in the first place. Maybe you'll realize that it's not it's hardcore gameplay. But rather, it's a very mild challenge, couched in a unique and charming audiovisual experience. Much of the series's appeal is it's appearance. It's gameplay is little more than a kid playing with sticks in the backyard.
You know what I like in my games? A not-shitty artstyle. What good is variety, if the game looks like shit?
>>340433787
Zelda's appeal is also that it's challenging and fun under certain conditions. You're talking about the video game series that invented difficulty regulation by introducing heart containers. They're not collectibles, like they are in most recent Zelda games, but things to moderate the difficulty of the game.
No, actually you have no idea what you're talking about, because it's not Zelda that's for sure./v/ memer.
>>340433787
>A not-shitty artstyle
Which Zelda typically has. Even as bad as TP looked that was more the hardware's fault than the art.
>>340434508
Well, I suppose I strayed from the point a bit there. But basically what I should have said is: What good is variety if the style looks bad to me? Even if others may find it good, if I don't like it, then does it matter if it's different? Nope.
>>340434801
But not liking the style is not fair reason to pass the game entirely on its own.
>>340434930
Yes it is. You're have to look at the game for hours, and you hate looking at it? That's no good.
>>340407959
Holy fuck, thank god!
>>340435102
>Yes it is. You're have to look at the game for hours, and you hate looking at it? That's no good.
Except you're playing the game, not just looking at it. It's why you don't see Zelda on Playstation.
>>340433912
Link has been a faggy ass bitch since TP, to appeal to the girls.
>>340405261
>I've never been so aroused
>top zozzle I r8 1/8
>>340435253
>Except you're playing the game
You still have to look at the game while you're playing it.
>>340435576
If the gameplay is fun it shouldn't matter to you.
>>340410379
With the exception of the "failure" timeline, both alternate endings were and have been in Ocarina of Time since it was made. You literally watch them happen.
>>340435747
Doesn't mean you should give a free pass on a game's shitty qualities, or rather the qualities you don't like. Even more so if shitty art direction results in shitty atmosphere and immersion - especially so in an open world adventure title.
>>340435747
Gameplay can't compensate for everything. It isn't some wildcard that trumps all.
And in fact, gameplay is a complex concept that is made up of all other parts of the game. If one of the parts is failing, then you have broken gameplay. A large portion of Zelda's gameplay, isn't only how it's played, but the experience of play, presented to you through it's visuals and audio.
>>340417368
no its always hated Sony. Don't know why the board suddenly became sonyfag central
>>340435747
This. I get dropping a game for its artstyle in the instance that the gameplay can't carry the experience. For me, Bioshock Infinite is a fine example of this - the series' gameplay is mediocre but at least 1 & 2 had the artistry of Rapture to elevate it. No Rapture, no sale for me as far as that series is concerned, but Zelda generally has a good gameplay structure so in that instance a weaker artstyle doesn't entirely deter me.
>>340436315
>Gameplay can't compensate for everything. It isn't some wildcard that trumps all.
I knew it would come down to this
>>340433912
>Absolutely no tits
>>340436191
>Even more so if shitty art direction results in shitty atmosphere and immersion - especially so in an open world adventure title.
You can't decide that until you've played it
>>340398913
I think Souls games and Darksiders have kind of ruined the series for me.
>>340435414
>TP link
>a bitch
The nigga was LITERALLY participating in sumo matches and could stop rampaging goats with his bare hands
I feel surprisingly numb about it. All the delays and the complete lack of information have just sort of made me disinterested.
Knowing me though, I will probably be super hyped once I see a trailer, some gameplay and an actual title though.
Bring it on, Nintendo.
>>340434296
>Zelda
>challenging
u wut m8
>>340437081
100% this.
>>340426882
>Show, don't tell.
That doesn't really change the fact that Zelda no doubt did a lot. You have to really be twisting things severely to make it into anything else. It's not like she is a captive or in recluse or anything like that.
You literally spend the the majority of the game chasing her, because she herself keeps on pushing forward.
>>340437081
Same here.
I don't feel hype, just worry that it'll be another SS disaster. The wait for info has been to long, plus the decline of the series and Nintendo's recent fuck ups leave nothing but a sour taste in my mouth.
The me from 6-10 years ago would've never believed that I would feel this way for an upcoming Zelda title, but Nintendo is just that shit now.
>>340432312
>And people like you are why the series is now the mess that it is.
I didn't know that anon was Eiji Aonuma
>>340437548
>It's not like she is a captive or in recluse or anything like that.
She goes into recluse the moment you finally do catch up.
I know she did something, but I certainly can't feel like it's important when I'm really not sure what it was.
>>340437674
Aonuma is greatly at fault for being too sensitive to criticism.
>>340437219
Zelda II is challenging and Zelda 1 isn't piss easy.
>>340432312
The series is a mess right now because Nintendo is a mess and Aonuma is a ducking hack.
>>340437839
Wow, 2 whole fucking games out of 20+ or so. Great!
>>340398913
I've been feeling it but with each delay I've been getting less and less hype
>>340407921
Wind Waker didn't have water controls the way Aonuma was talking about.
>>340437802
That is well after the halfway point of the game though for what it's worth.
But Zelda was primarily doing two things. Unlocking her own powers and memories, while chasing the time gate. That she also interestingly enough decided to get rid off.
But her primary objective was to enter the time gate since she needed to go to the past in order to address Demise.
>>340439717
>But Zelda was primarily doing two things. Unlocking her own powers and memories, while chasing the time gate. That she also interestingly enough decided to get rid off.
But her powers and memories had minimal impact on anything that happened. She only served as a vehicle to tell an origin story that just stated the obvious
I don't feel much of anything for Zelda or Nintendo anymore.
>>340401876
Anti-Nintendofags shitpost anything Nintendo ever, everyone else either doesn't care or are waiting for more actual gameplay to decide whether to call it shit or not.
fuggen hyped
>>340443394
>Two years with no new info
How can this game be mismanaged any worse?
>>340444574
Wasn't the gameplay footage last year?
>>340409223
The last console Zelda was release on game cube like hardware you fucking retard
>>340444762
2014
>>340425773
Skyward sword is not cell shaded
>Hipsters acting like they don't like Nintendo
You guys can stop pretending for your "geek cred" or whatever, it's okay to like games.
>>340436782
I was talking about the looks pham. Zelda fangirls are the ones being pandered with faggy Link. And fangirls would be the first ones throwing a tantrum over a fem Link.
>>340423461
Skyward Swords Zelda is best Zelda.
>>340447713
But she isn't
>>340401876
Replaying to an old post buy whatever
>Delayed several times
>Open world game despite the 3D Zelda series not even being able to put enough content in a closed world game. (The great sea, sky, OoT/TP's huge wastelands they call Hyrule Field)
>Just bloom my shit up to hide the game's bad graphics
>Artstyle is awful
Unless in the huge amount of time they've gone without showing us anything but a low quality stream they've changed a lot and added a shit ton more content to the areas they were exploring I find it hard to be hyped for this game.
>>340448972
>>Open world game despite the 3D Zelda series not even being able to put enough content in a closed world game.
They've never really tried before
>>Artstyle is awful
Artstyle would work fine with better character design
>>340445776
Only hipsters like Nintendo, and they do it ironically
>>340438229
That's not how you hold a bow to charge a shot. The palm of his left hand should be looking upwards.
>>340401876
Most people don't have Wii u, so they shitpost.
>Nintendo @ E3 2016 - June 14-16
>Only plans for 14th and 15th
So is there nothing on the 16th or is ita surprise?
>>340449154
>They've never really tried before
What I'm worried about is that they're going to go with weird aesthetics instead of focusing on gameplay like
>Look, wild horses!
>Look, more realistic grass!
>See those mountains? You can climb up them.
And focus on building something that looks somewhat nice but winds up having nothing interesting to explore or find.
>Artstyle would work fine with better character design
Yeah, I agree.
>>340448972
>TP's huge wastelands they call Hyrule Field
When will this meme stop?
TP's world has tons of shit to explore. Actual cave systems, golden bugs, a shitton of heart pieces and bonus treasure chests.
Can't disagree about OoT, though. It's basically just used as a stage for the poe hunting quest.
I just hope the soundtrack doesn't suck this time. It feels like Zelda's been in a rut for a while with its music
>>340401876
Usually when the sony crowd doesn't have anything to play they hop on the hate bandwagon and attack whomever is the easiest target.
>>340447889
WTF is wrong with MC Zelda?
>>340450642
Nothing really, but she's not really worth commenting on otherwise
>I get to work ONE day out of 15
>it has to be the 14th
fuck.
>>340398913
not really
im gonna pirate this though and probably end up playing a few days to a week before launch
>>340447889
Switch Tetra and Musou.
>>340450715
You're just missing a stream, anon. It's not like you're missing a Direct or something
>>340450853
Tetra's in musou too now, but also other Zelda games
>>340398913
>Color Splash
I'm feeling a warm spot.
>>340450960
And now her kidnap total is up to three.
Tetra a shit.
>>340451156
Yes, but she's also the only one to have the common sense to invest in a firearm
>>340450980
Sorry
>>340399015
What a bunch of jokers.
>>340451156
I can't wait until there's a Zelda who doesn't get kidnapped and everyone cries Mary Sue
>>340411585
I can't read the text on a single one of those.
>>340418013
They just needed melee controls and it would be fine.
>>340400198
can't get the music out of my head now
