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This is what a game with bad combat looks like according to /v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpJocjAT_A
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>>340394483
Is there a mod which removes the disgusting forced lock-on and works with B&W yet?
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>>340394789
Nevermind, should have looked before posting like a fag:
http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1598/?
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>>340394483
>combat too hard for you
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>stun
>mash attack
>roll
>stun
>mash attack
>roll
Amazing combat system.
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>>340394930
The same could be said for all Souls games...
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>>340394975
>b-b-but dark souls
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>>340394975
And Souls games are garbage.
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>>340394975

No.
Souls games have inferior combat system, because you cant fight a group of enemies.
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>>340394483
Whoa.... really makes you think...
so this... is the power of shitty combat... whoa...
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>>340395013

kek
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>>340394930
I smell an elder scrolls babby

The witcher combat is better than an FPS game.
And hack and slash scrolls
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Wow that actually does look like shit
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>>340395175
Not an argument.
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>>340395212
Epic lad ;-)

Here (you) go
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it looks like he was just holding back on the AOE ice move for added drama.
like how Iron Man doesn't just begin fights with the super duper laser beams.
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>>340395175
Who would have thunk, a whoreson
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>>340394483
I honestly can't tell if you are baiting or not.
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>>340395352
(you) are quite hungry today
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Is this supposed to look good? You know, you could've said "This is what a game with good combat looks like according to /v/" and it would fit the video even more

It looks like fucking garbage
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>>340394930

you forget the well timed parries that damage/kill enemies
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This is what a game with bad combat looks like according to /v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p0cu27gBsc
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>>340394483
I like their poison/frost set-up, but that weapon damage is terrible.
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>>340394483
i fear u have posted the wrong video, that looks bad
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/v/ claims a game has bad combat but is unable to explain what's bad about it
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>>340395547
That looks WAY more fun and WAY more complex than the garbage OP posted.
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Yeah, is there anything wrong with that?

I'm terrified that some people think that this is how a game with good combat looks like
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>>340394975
>>340395105
>just calling some unrelated game's combat bad somehow makes W3's combat passable
no
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>roll sidestep roll sidestep roll sidestep

What a thrill.
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>>340395662
show us a game with good combat.
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What makes Witcher 3 combat bad?

What is it missing compared to a game with good combat?
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>>340395776
>dark_souls_combat.txt
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>>340395547
Absolutely BTFO of the glitcher
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>>340395637
>>340394930
I'll help I guess, one of the worst things about the witcher's combat is that lack of punishments available from using the step or roll making most fights pretty safe especially late game. the stamina bar restores quite quickly and has a shield spell that is essentially talk a free hit and lasts for a long time. the game pressures you to use swords and I've heard the other weapons don't play any differently (could be wrong on that one) with one of the best spin to wins I've seen in a game.
those are probably my biggest gripes with the game but I must admit I only finished the standard game and did not buy the dlc.
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>>340395893
see
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>>340395871
Hell, even Skyrim on mods works better than fucking The Witcher.
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>>340394989
>It's ok when souls does it.
Just stop comparing these games. They have the both shitty combat.
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>>340395991
Name some Action-RPG's with good combat then.
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>>340395970
you're kidding, right?
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>>340395656
>WAY more fun
That's definitely one of the drawbacks to The Witcher's combat. Harder modes are encouraged by the fanbase, however, that means even less fun while playing the game.
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>>340396068
a lot of the tales of games?
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>>340395656
>>340395913
>>340396017
You should be shot.
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Wow it's like Shadow of Mordor but worse
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>>340396152
If you're phrasing that as a question then the answer is a solid no.
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>Played W1
>Horrible combat

>Played W2
>Bad combat

I haven't played W3 yet. And honestly I don't want to. I really didn't enjoy the previous two games and W3 looks like it's just more of the same.
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>>340396226
How about ys or star ocean games then?
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>>340394483

I think the most glaring problem with the combat is the lack of weapon variety. Otherwise one can treat this game as a ninja gaiden lite.
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>>340396068
I know of one, and it's actually related to Witcher 3.
It's called Witcher 1.
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>>340394483
Fucking Minecraft has better combat than that.
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>>340396193
What's similar?
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>>340394483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZmTEtLs8A
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>>340396161
You should be shot.

Sapkowski's books are 100x better than CDPR's abominations. They literally copypasted lore, raped it a little, added some characters and put in some garbage bamham combat.

Fuck you.
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>>340396303
What makes Minecraft combat better?
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>>340396319
Auto-locking on, fighting multiple squishy enemies in a circle at once and basically Arkham combat with swords
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>this whole thread
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>>340396321
what the fuck

is this a boss? please tell me it's not a boss

what the actual fuck, why does it have a boss health bar
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>>340394930
Sounds like Dark Souls combat
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>>340396321
DELETE THIS
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>>340396426
It is, alot of the bosses in the game revolve around just not geting greedy landing one or two hits and backing off. Atleast most humanoid ones

That being said I really liked Witcher 3 but the combat was alright, nothing special. I loved the whole preparation aspect of things like weapon coatings and optimal sign usage, but actual combat falls abit short.
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>>340396321
considering the game has like 500 bosses, a single one with bad AI is forgivable
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Maybe we should have flags on /v/. It would be funny to see all the Polish ones in these threads.
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>>340396068
Dragon's Dogma
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>>340396609
>it's okay when CDPR does it
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>>340396609
>500 bosses
>calling something like this a boss

Wew Skyrim has 1800+ fully voiced bosses and amazing mountains :^)
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>>340394483
>that walking animation

It's like he's floating over the surface
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>>340396426
It is, bit weird though you were able to cheese that fight like that.
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>>340396669
>witchercuck laughs at dragon's dogma
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>>340394483
Thats the same guy?
Jesus christ he needs to stop before video games kills him
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Dark Souls combat is shitloads better though. It has many weapons with unique movesets and special abilities, while Witcher is pretty much fast sword with 2 attacks and one ability useful only when going with lots of alchemy and the other ability pretty much useless. On top of dodge being dependent upon fatness or other things depending on which part we are talking about, it also had true i-frames that are easier to understand than Cdproject's pseudo iframes and had had less generous window. Dodge roll in Dark Souls also doesn't take you 10 meters away from the enemy being a free escape card. Dodge in Dark Souls is harder to time and use than in TW3 but won't leave you buttfucked because it won't work on some attacks because devs said so as CDproject's pseudo iframes.

Dark Souls enemies are also better designed with more varied attacks. TW3 is pretty much side step hard as far as almost any single enemy goes. And again you don't even need to time those sidesteps much or think about where to sidestep unlike Dark Souls.

t. A person who gets bored by DS really fast but TW3 is just worse
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>>340396286
How is it a problem?

You're a witcher, and withcers use two swords. Makes no sense to use a mace.
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>>340396669
He's right though
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>>340396669
Nice argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2v-FYCN72M
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>>340396763
>>340396921
It's garbage, dogmacunts are even worse than soulsdrones.
>>340396942
>proving its complete and utter garbage

nice going
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>>340394930
As opposed to what exactly?
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>>340396639
>literally thousand kiss to win

such good combat lmao
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>>340396995
Nice argument

>It's garbage cuz I say it is
Kill yourself CDcuck
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>>340396942
Holy shit, that looks fucking terrible, thank god I didn't let /v/ meme me into buying this trash.
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>>340396995
Witchercucks are even worse, anon. The Witcher 3 is probably the worst polish game in years, it's worse than fucking Dying Light and Call of Juarez.
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>>340394483
Have people collectively lost their fucking mind over Witcher 3 or something? It's like all the crazies crawled out of the woodwork recently. Is it because of grief there's no more Witcher or something?
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>>340394483
>Witcher 3 combat
>instead of heavy combat featuring using the sword in different styles he dances around with two swords like a faggot in an unrealistic style

The game's combat is garbage
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>>340397068
I know right? There's attack variety and actual strategy involved, for fucks sake who has time for that? Just give me an AoE spell that stuns everything and let me watch those sweet cutscenes some more!
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>>340397115
>best RPG in years gets released
>/v/ shits on it because it always has to be contrarian

Every single time
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It's fucking simple /v/

A combat system is bad when you don't control your character fully. In the Batman games, you are not controlling Batman, it's almost some kind of QTE system. In The Witcher 3, it's alright, Geralt is mostly respondent, but he still does retarded shit and the whole game feel laggy. One press of a button does not do exactly what the player wants, there are extra movements and stuff. And I am not speaking of long ass animations, those are alright, it's just a commitment (Monster Hunter is good for that). Now if we take Devil May Cry, Dante does exactly what we want, he moves where we want, no retarded extra steps when we press a button, no unsheathing or weird gestures. That is why DMC combat feel so good, we control Dante, the game is not trying to add extra stuff.
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>>340397163
>attack variety and actual strategy involved

BWAHAHAHAHA
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>>340397163
>attack variety in dragons dogma
>basically just boils down to attacking one weak spot on a boss with your strongest skill/spell

Yeeeah
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>>340394483
I want the dodge roll meme to end.
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>>340394483
according to souls dronies
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>>340397193
>A combat system is bad when you don't control your character fully
Way to make a retarded definition that only holds a bit for action RPGs but actually doesn't. There is not one game that lets you control your character fully.
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>>340397193
Or, you know, two games play differently because they're different games. Homogenization is fucking cancer.
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>>340396321

nice "game" slavaboos
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>>340397245
>>340397212
>vs. pressing the quen button in Witcher 3

W E W
L A D S
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>>340397115
>good, 7/10 game is released
>people are enjoying it, shitposters don't care
>suddenly millions of CDPR marketeers start invading /v/ with posts like "BEST GAME IN YEARS BUY IT NOW"
>people are starting to get mad

Is it so fucking hard to understand?
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>>340397193
>but he still does retarded shit and the whole game feel laggy

Does retarded shit as in what, exatly? I never had the feeling of the game being laggy either.

If anything I can only complain about walking when somewhere high as you have to be fucking careful not to fall.
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>>340397343
>>340397330

Why the fuck am I posting on /v/ ? Everyone is retarded.
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>>340397193
Exanima and Toribash officially best games of all time?
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The Witcher 3 has very good combat system

The kind of shit that gets praised here, this place is full of contrarians that will attack anything popular
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>>340397115
it's couple of things, from fallout 4 crazies seeing their world crash around them to MUH BLOODBORNE fanboys still not getting over the butthurt they endured when their game got gypped when it came to awards.
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It's a typical barebones hack n slash except it controls about as fluidly as peanut butter.

Control over your character in an action game should be one to one. I'd rather see some slightly janky animation cancelling than have to sit through a 50 frame long animation of geralt swinging his sword or moving around in an awkward circle or not being able to dodge until every animation is done because the game is being a nitpicky fuck.

Compare it to something like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. Obviously the focus of the games is different and witcher won't ever be some overly flashy flippy anime shit, but in fast paced action games like those you pretty much always have control over what you're doing at any given moment. In Witcher 3 it feels like pulling teeth roughly 30 to 40% of the time in combat because nothing feels like it naturally flows into a different type of action, like you have to wait for the exact moment the game will let you be able to do what you want.

I guess in a word I'd call it responsiveness? It doesn't help that the signs aren't that interesting or entertaining and Geralt's weapons feel about as satisfying as slapping somebody with a wet noddle while you twirl about in the same animations over and over again.
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>>340397362
>using quen
>not just dodging and aarding motherfuckers

That's already more options than in DD
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>>340397398
You are retarded. Combat system is way more complicated than just muh control character fully that doesn't even have a proper definition.
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>>340397428
>replying in the same thread twice with shit like this

stop
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>>340397398
What's wrong? Are we invading your safe space?
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>>340397428
Yeah, I'm with you on this one polishbro

The Witcher 3 is the best RPG since Skyrim, right?
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>webm autist is here

There we go, thread going into the shitter
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>>340397394
>BEST GAME IN YEARS 10/10 is released
>people are enjoying it, shitposters shitpost about it
Is it so fucking hard to understand?
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>>340397394
Yes, because it has no fucking effect on the game. It's a singleplayer title. If you can't form your own and not just be reactionary you have issues my friend.
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>>340397428
>The Witcher 3 has very good combat system

Fucking Poles.
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>>340397482
what am I meant to be seeing here?
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>>340397482
>>340397574
DELETE THIS
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>>340397457
I should also mention that this is why I don't like FF15's combat so far.

Just like me attack or dodge instead of shuffling and twirling about through needlessly elaborate animations.
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>>340397460
Except overall Dragon's Dogma has far more abilities than Witcher 3

You were being a retard and saying you can spam one attack and win which is the same as me saying you can spam quen and win
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>>340397592
Can you name 5 games with a good combat system, good storylines with choices, a fuckton of side quests and over 200 hours in content total, with the game being single player?
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>>340397574
how the fuck you got that to happen, i killed that faggot so easly that it was boring
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>>340397659
Quen is not an attack.

DD combat boils down to attacking the weak spot and NOTHING else and you know it.
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>>340394483
it took 3 games and 2 expansion for them to realise mixing humans and beasts opponents can make the game fun and even then, the ai is fucking bonker because they arent built to work with each other.
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>>340397571
But gameplay is kind of bad. To be absolutely honest, I really enjoyed discussing stuff about The Witcher back in May and June. But when people started invading fucking generals on /vg/ with posts like "FUCK UR GAME OURS IS THE BEST" something went wrong.

I have my own opinion. The Witcher 3 is a good game with bad combat. And I'd like to discuss some other games without CDPR shills' shitposting.

>>340397564
The Witcher 3 isn't even the best game of 2015.
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>>340397673
NO FUCKING WAY
PEOPLE DON'T ATTACK YOU WHEN THEY'RE ON FIRE?!?!!?!?!!?
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>340397661
I don't fucking care about storylines with choices, I want a game with fun gameplay. And if over 200 hours of content and fuckton of "follow red shit" sidequests are supposed to be fun with this fucking combat system it has to be a joke.

I can name 5 games with good combat system.
Dark Souls 1 and 3
Bloodborne
Dragon's Dogma
Shadow Warrior
Bayonetta 1 and 2
Metal Gear Rising
DMC 3 and 4
DmC
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>poles getting triggered by simple webms

every time

remove yourself
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>>340397457
you can cancel attack at anytime with dodge/roll what the fuck are you on about?
and you have to think differently when it come to witcher vs dmc. in dmc, you focus your attack on a group of enemies. in witcher, you focus your attack on individual and avoid being surrounded, geralt can hit 2-3 at a time doesnt make it the way to play the game.
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>>340397908
>Dark Souls 1 and 3
>Bloodborne
>Dragon's Dogma
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>>340396321
this is some bug or glitch, boss summons wild hounds all the time and I know it is not an easy boss(he is kinda first ~boss in the game, if we count White Orchid as tutorial area) if you play first time on Death March.I see that this guy has shitload of unspent points.
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>>340397661
Dragon's Dogma, Gothic 2 (night of the raven), Dark Souls 1-3, some Tales of Games, Type 0

Probably more
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>>340397908
>I don't fucking care about storylines with choices
Why did you ever pick up any Witcher games then? They're obviously not for you
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>>340397673
>but the game has 500 bosses, there's nothing wrong with the fact that 1-499 of them have retarded AI!

>>340397849
>muh realism
Why the fuck Geralt doesn't have to pee every 2 hours with the amount of potions he's drinking?
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>>340397765
anon, that's a big creature, you have to be careful about shockwaves
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>>340397971
>When confronted with hard facts just enter state of denial

How's Egypt?
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>>340394483
It's not about what it looks like but how it controls, which is shitty. Like a worse version of Jade Empire.
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>>340398010
>Why the fuck Geralt doesn't have to pee every 2 hours with the amount of potions he's drinking?
mutations
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>>340397908
>I don't fucking care about storylines with choices
>so I'll play a game that's heavily about storylines and choices

>>340397987
DD doesn't have a fuckton of side quests and a lot of choices and clearly not 200h of content.

G2 is shorter than that

Dark Souls have basically close to no storylines and barely any choices, no exploration much as it's all closed
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>>340397908
>Dark Souls 1 and 3
>Bloodborne
>Dragon's Dogma
>DmC
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>>340397985
he summons 3 time after each 1/3 hp lost
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>>340396354
Only Sapkowski would say that. Literally. I mean I swear 100% you are that polack cück whose work will be forgoten in the sands of time.
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>>340397730
>Quen is not an attack.

You're damn right, it's a shield which allows you to spam the most basic attack because you used it.

You can easily dominate death march by being a quen spamming bitch.
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>>340397987
>any gothic
>good combat
c'mon
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>>340397971
nice argument son, go back to your good storylines with interesting choices, 200 hours of conent and shit ton of sidequests.

>>340397994
I don't care about storylines in choices in games with over 100 hours of content that doesn't involve the characters I loved. Also I liked the books, although the last two ones were completely shit (not counting Season of Storms)
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>>340398074
DD actually has a fuckton of side quest even though fuckton isn't a metric. 200h is just a fucking meme that every developer uses after putting muh collectibles in shitloads of places that look copy pasted as hell.

G2 I easily was able to clock 200h on though.

Dark Souls do have storylines though, and depends on your definition of choices.
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>>340398113
Pole here, Witcher books are heavily overrated here but still they're quite decent, especially the short stories, shit is really good. The more it goes into mage drama the more boring it becomes
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>The Witcher 3

>>340398113
>I swear 100% you are that polack cück whose work will be forgoten in the sands of time.

Literally visit Poland right fucking now and ask a random person on the street if they know Sapkowski. He's literally the only memorable Pole since fucking Sobieski.
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>>340397673
>>340397765
>>340397864
>>340398161
Jesus Christ CDPR cunts are getting B T F O
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>>340398113
>Only Sapkowski would say that
>I can't fucking read!

They literally retconned the most important thing in the whole Witcher universe, White Frost.
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>>340394789
The fuck? This was my very first thought while watching the video.
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>>340397091
I liked Dying Light and the first Call of Juarez. Thank you for making me feel like a pleb.
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BUT WE HAVE GOTY AWARDS YOU DUMB KEK FUCK OFF I BET YOU LIKE SOULS GAMES AND YOUR GAME DOESN'T HAVE ANY GOTY AWARDS
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>>340398205
>a fuckton of side quests
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Sidequests

This is not "a fuckton". Witcher has a lot more than that, with characters, backstories and everything. It took me around 200h to finish TW3 + expansions so that's not a meme, no matter how you look at it.

I played through G2+ NOTR several times but it never got me for that long, around 100 though.

Dark Souls is a game made around killing bosses and different builds with a storyline just put into it so people don't get bored with mindless killing every time. It also doesn't have 200h of content, it's a lot shorter.
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>>340395637
unresponsive controls, no variation (1 sword 5 spells for three fucking games), shitty ai, bad lock on system, bad animations and unclear movesets, constantly in and out of menu for spells and items.

now u can proceed to cherrypick and explain why they are non-issues
>mods fixed it ;^)
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Considering The Witcher was never about combat in the first place(if world was a nice place, The Witcher 3 would have combat similar to Baldurs Gate(real time with pause),Arcanum,Diablo,Fallout 1&2) but they needed to cater to joypad crowd), its nice to see that it is compared to Souls(game that objectively had the best take on >action< swordplay mechanics) games
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>>340398298
>>340398405
>filenames
>time between posts

Nice false flagging
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>>340398438
why does it have 200 hours of gameplay content if it's not about combat
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>>340398205
dark souls story is always kill a number of somebody to take some mcguffin to avert/lengthen a magical crisis or take the power for yourselves while the end credit play some omnious/somber music to make you feel like it isnt the best choice and dont expand on them for shit because nihon want to be Sony slave instead of a multi platform king. The "choices" also get more and more comvoluted and unnatural with each installment for the hell of it.
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>>340398480
>wow people have numbers as filenames!? wtf it's not like facebook!?
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>>340397730
>boils down to
I take it tyiu mean you're hyperboling shit just like the rest in this shitty thread
Also attacking weakspots is better than poking some big boss's heels and they're suddenly dead
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>>340397564
this
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>>340396254
You're a fucking moron if you actually think that. But you're on /v/..so yeah..
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>>340398375
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>>340398375
but anon install some mods, they will fix it :^)
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>>340398426
I never fully understood the unresponsive controls as Geralt basically always did whatever I wanted him to do, and if he didn't, I could fix this in around a second meaning it wasn't much of an issue.

No variation because you're a fucking Witcher. They made signs relevant in games, in books they're not much more than really weak magic tricks and nothing else. I'll repeat, you're a WITCHER, trained for years to fight with a SWORD, what else did you expect? It would totally be a lore rape and bookfags would shit on it.

AI is fine, albeit stupid at times. Lock on system has nothing wrong with it unless you're a retard. Animations are great especially in combat, feels just like reading the books with all the pirouettes Geraldo de Rivera does.
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>>340398491
Exploring a well thought out well crafted world filled with interesting characters?
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>>340398409
Notice Board quests count as sidequests too, since they are about as complicated as TW3 shit.

And yes 200h is a meme because everyone plays the game for different amount of time. Mostly it means a lot of copy past and muh 100% the game if the game is labeled as such.
>It also doesn't have 200h of content
With multiplayer it does easily, I have seen some people spend 200h with just co-op interaction anyway, it has a lot of replayability.
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>>340395871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-qFAITQ1e4
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>>340398480
Kill yourself CDrone
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>>340394483
Am I only one who thinks that amount of spinning moves Geralt does is even more disgusting than combat itself?
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>>340398438
>game that objectively had the best take on >action< swordplay mechanics
M8 you know jackshit about combat
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>>340398567
>>340398665
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>>340398676
read the books, spinning is canon, fans complained about too little spinning in 1 and 2
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>>340398646
Considering board quests in DD are just "collect 10 bear asses" or "kill a cockatrice" while TW3 board quests require you to visit some npc, talk about what happened, negotiate the price and then get to a mission then yeah, it's sure as hell the same thing.

Stop calling everything a meme. Witcher has easily 200h of content if you actually go on and explore the world and do side quests.

>with multiplayer
So it's a fair comparison because TW3 has no multiplayer, right?
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>>340398774
jesus christ what a fucking thing to complain about


vidya truly is dead if people start complaining about theres not enough spinning.
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>bad combat
meme made by certain fanbase who are mad that Witcher III was GOTY 2015
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>>340398774
Then canon is retarded
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>>340398757
dumb frogcdprdrone
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>>340398574
attacking weak spot in dd is worse because you do shit for damage otherwise. and you have 5 health bars waiting for you after wailing on the bosses for hours. most witchers enemies have weak spots: their back and it is fucking hard to get the drop on them. but you have damage stacking options and poisons and potions that really make a difference, unlike dd, where you dont even have a choice which stats you want to level up.
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>>340398901
woah that is EPIC
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>>340398567
>>340398665
oh my god there are two shitposting retards on /v/ at the same time my lifeview is shattered
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>>340394870
Thanks, was waiting for this mod
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>>340398774
Canon also had Geralt die at the hand of a single shit-smelling, uneducated racist peasant though.
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>>340396068
Mount and Blade.
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>>340398901
so that first hit was with a plastic axe? That's fucking lame
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>>340398880
only retards think goty mean shit anymore
its easy to reach the top when everyone uses a wheelchair
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>>340399023
he has the drop on him. and must be level 50 or some shit, just look at his damage.
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>>340398808
>Considering board quests in DD are just "collect 10 bear asses" or "kill a cockatrice" while TW3 board quests require you to visit some npc, talk about what happened, negotiate the price and then get to a mission then yeah, it's sure as hell the same thing.
But TW3 quests are literally some storyline + kill stuff. Unless you think following red is great gameplay (detective narration counts as story line). Who the fuck negotiates price anyway, economy is broken.
>Witcher has easily 200h of content if you actually go on and explore the world and do side quests.
That's the point. 200h of content is a meme metric that doesn't mean shit. In the end I left way before 200h because I have no interest with copy pasted content of kill the same shit again. I ended up playing NotR way longer than TW3.
>So it's a fair comparison because TW3 has no multiplayer, right?
Well it's TW3's fault if it doesn't have it if it improves DS. You are trying to judge games based on
"Oh ok give me something that has what TW3 does (impyling) with great combat BUT SINGLEPLAYER ONLY SINCE TW3 DOESNT HAVE MULTIPLAYER."
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>>340398901
This is like a visually more impressive version of Dragon Age's silly blood and gore physics.
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hey polandbros why can't geralt see in the dark without the potion

i mean in the books he could see at night like during daytime
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>>340398862
Read the books and you'll understand. Combat descriptions are full of talk about pirouettes and shit and they were nowhere to be seen in the first two games
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>>340398643
>pirouettes
must be a shitty book series then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfy5EbM4dDs

if i could do 1/10th of what is shown here i'd be happy
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what are games with combat?
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>>340398491
Well, I cant explain it to you, Geralt is more of an detective.....aw, fuck.. go read a book, I dont give a shit if someone likes or doesnt like The Witcher.
Its a great game with great story, characters,beautiful places to explore, believable live world that is hand crafted, all mayor quests are really interesting and meaningful and have impact on the story.

I honestly dont get why the fuck do people attack The Witcher, its really the game without sleazy marketing, its not in your face(like Bethesda), real Witcherfans are not pushy(i honestly believe those disgusting people are ones who played only The Witcher 3 on consoles).

Anyway, as it is, I enjoyed Geralt adventures for last 10 years, he is settled down in Touissant , he has his house, his wineyard, let the guy rest in peace.
There will be no more Witcheres with Geralt so, that's it..(there wont be 15 sequels like FF or TES or Souls/Borne/Kings Field)
Just let the guy be..
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>>340398998
>bawww it's shitposting because there's LITERAL FUCKING VIDEO EVIDENCE THAT THE GAME IS BAD

Stop breathing, thank you.
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>>340399178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs
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>>340399101
>But TW3 quests are literally some storyline + kill stuff.
still better than no storyline + kill stuff that you'd normally kill
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>>340399216
>its not in your face(like Bethesda)
>literally get a tv spot after the walking dead
those poles just dont have enough money to advertise before star warâ„¢
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>>340396068
Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix LV1 playthrough.
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>>340399212
a dead genre
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>>340399101
>But TW3 quests are literally some storyline + kill stuff. Unless you think following red is great gameplay (detective narration counts as story line). Who the fuck negotiates price anyway, economy is broken.

Best thing is, in some cases killing is optional and fully dependant on your choices and how you act. Some side quests can be resorted with no violence. And that's a lot more approaches than you get in DD.

>200h doesn't mean shit
Alright. Just because you don't enjoy exploring and feel it's copy pasted doesn't mean everyone feels that way. I enjoyed both G2 and TW3 but Witcher has just more content in basically every single place.

>Well it's TW3's fault if it doesn't have it if it improves DS.
Yeah. No idea how multiplayer would look like in TW3. It doesn't need multiplayer to have a lot of content, while DS does, otherwise people would finish it in like what, less than 50h? And never touch it again. It's just pvpfags and nothing else.

It's not a fair comparison and you know it.
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>>340398702
OK, stop with simulator swordplay .
I wont even go there..
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>>340399216
>15 sequels like Souls
Miyazaki said it was enough after 5 Souls games

I know you like to out your frustration on better games but there's just 5 of em.
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I've never seen a fanbase get so utterly destroyed in one thread on /v/

Goddamn this is hilarious
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>>340394483
Why the fuck does Geralt look so fucking JUST in all the pictures, do you take them on purpose and post them here ?
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>>340399216
well I did read the books and i'm kind of mad that they retconned White Frost

>its really the game without sleazy marketing, its not in your face(like Bethesda), real Witcherfans are not pushy
what about raiding /vg/ with goty awards pics, daily threads about how superior TW3 is and daily shitposting baits? soulsfags are cancer but i feel like witcherfags are getting just as bad.
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>>340394483
Good stuff. In Dark Souls, you would have to pull all those enemies one by one like a retard. Here, you just kick their ass.
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>>340399308
so the "game" part is basically irrelevant?
how is this any different than ponymovies?
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>>340399403
SHUT UP BLIZZSHILL YOUR GAME WILL NEVER HAVE AS MANY GOTY AWARDS AS OURS
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does "good" combat exist?
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>>340399403
>destroyed
>proceeds to post a shittier game with shittier gameplay

like that blizz cock pajeet?
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>>340399484
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>>340399410
Well canonically Geralt basically poisons himself all the time.

The fact that he even still has hair and working eyes is nothing short of a miracle.

His design is a bit on the Deviant Art OC side to be honest. Basically he nearly died from the witcher potions at young age, the process bleached his hair white and he got nicknamed the white wolf henceforth.

Haven't read the books since 2011 so my memory is probably a bit spongy.
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>>340399523
>Implying I play the game
That's just rude
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>>340399227
> 5 seconds glitches and exploits
>literal video evidence that the game is bad

How about you go kill yourself
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>>340394483

>Shitty lengthy animations.
>Attacks move you forward a great deal.
>No attack variety.
>Fire stun lasts forever.
>Groups don't bum rush you.

You're right. That's what a shit game looks like.
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>>340394483
>Amerilards on /v/ bash W3 for combat
>At the same time they praise DA and Skyrim.

That's why nowadays I only come here to shitpost. People on /v/ are literally DSP tier retards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hn7l0ZTCs
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>>340399517
seems like the subject of good combat is really subjective so people will never come to an agreement
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Never played it, but why do people have these collections of images to prove that it's a bad game?
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>>340399423
In DS, you'd have to intelligently position yourself and carefully pick apart the group one by one while dodging attacks and parrying blows
In TW3, all you need to do is shit out AoEs and hack away when enemies are stunned. It's actually worse than TW2's combat, at least there you had to think about positioning before spamming signs to stunlock enemies.
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>>340399587

>tfw really want to play a game where you start as a young kid and proceed to go through trials and then as a young witcher move into the world full of witcher contracts
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>>340399621
>so embarassed he pretends not to play it
so this is the power of blizzshills...
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>>340399590
>"No, its the Witcher fans that are the autistic, annoying ones"
>posts this
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>>340399702
Uh no
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>>340399361
>Best thing is, in some cases killing is optional and fully dependant on your choices and how you act. Some side quests can be resorted with no violence. And that's a lot more approaches than you get in DD.
Which is again some story line only no gameplay involved.
>Witcher has just more content in basically every single place.
Witcher at some point was copy paste of the same bosses. NotR never felt like that. The randomly generated loot was also awful. You can put the worst content ever in a game that actually no one does and just say muh hours of content collect it all.
>otherwise people would finish it in like what, less than 50h? And never touch it again.
I doubt. I piratefaged on DS1 for more than 50h.
>It's just pvpfags
Co-op too.
>It doesn't need multiplayer to have a lot of content, while DS does,
DS has different types of content. TW3 content is mostly randomly generated loot and copy paste world. DS actually give you more equipment content since weapons feel unique.
>It's not a fair comparison and you know it.
You never cared about fairness by stating that the game must have all the good things TW3 has (even though they are not always good).
>>340399373
Wrong. Calling DS combat objectively the best is silly. Especially if you don't even specify any kind of RPGs. There are probably some RPGs even one could argue have better combat.
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>>340399442
>so the "game" part is basically irrelevant?
where'd you get that conclusion reading my post?
but it is less important, yes, witcher is more about story, characters, dialogue and choices
it is different than ponymovies because the what you do actually matters and has consequence
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>>340399738
nah m8 I just like the waifus

Though it is pretty ironic that in both Witcher and Overwatch you press Q to win the game
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Witcher 3 is the best game ever
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>>340397908
>DmC
Opinion
Disregarded
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Overwatch is countless leagues above the Witcher games when it comes to SFM porn.
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>>340399812
>matters
yes, for the slideshow at the end of the game
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>there are people in this thread who unironically believe skyrim combat is superior to witcher 3 combat
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>>340399714
>people
it's just one guy. He bought a ps4 and got mad that the one good exclusive didn't get goty, so he's been shitposting daily for a year now
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>>340399702
His TW2 playthrough was torture
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>>340397482
psst, nothing personal witcher
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>>340399702
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>>340399795
>Which is again some story line only no gameplay involved.

It's gameplay involved because it's a CHOICE - you can fight or you can resort to other ways.

>Witcher at some point was copy paste of the same bosses.
Some are just the same with a different name or something added to them, yes. Doesn't make them any less unique, after all monsters shouldn't look all that different when they're a part of the same "type". It would be confusing.

Randomly generated loot I can agree with but best weapons you can get with quests.

>I piratefaged on DS1 for more than 50h.
And I played TW3 for over 200.

>Co-op too.
If you're shit enough then yeah.

>DS has different types of content
Then why are we comparing the games again? A lot of swords in TW3 are also unique and have a backstory.

>You never cared about fairness by stating that the game must have all the good things TW3 has
There's a huge difference between comparing something normal RPGs have in single player and just flat out going to multiplayer. Unless you can't see it, in that case I have a feeling you may be retarded.
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>>340398927
You know that getting a good hit in on a weak spot in DD takes away massive chunks of health? You can literally one shot big monsters with a well timed Arc of Deliverance, for example.
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>>340399708
i regard it as having gotten better than the previous games but when people call it's combat shit i have to wonder what they are comparing it to

in theory those games must have good combat so what might they be

otherwise all these shit combat games are the only combat
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>>340399982
also the slideshows in different parts of the game, the gameworld and how people treat you
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>>340399989
At the higher level of the game Skyrim actually involves more thought and that is just completely fucking pathetic for me to admit

In Witcher 3 alchemy is so fucking broken you become invincible and can just spam basic attack
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>>340394483
How many years has it been and those slavs still cant even churn out a game that has better gameplay than demon souls which was released in 2009.

Stick to the literature medium where this shit belongs.
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>>340400142
Yeah, otherwise you're just slashing away and doing close to 0 damage. Bosses are a joke in DD, they're all easy as fuck to kill because of that.

And UR-Dragon is annoying as fuck because of multiple hearts you need to destroy on him
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why do soulsfags fuck up every witcher thread
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>>340394930
Dorksouls is just roll roll attack. So at least thats something slightly different
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I still haven't played Witcher 3 yet. I thought it would've been like $15 by now.
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>>340398927
>>340400258
Also it's called weakspot for a reason. The game lets you climb on enemies so that you can reach these spots.
>because you do shit for damage otherwise
First, stacking periapts is an option. Though I personally don't like it since it makes you one shot too many bosses. Also you can still knock them down by wailing their legs. It's an option as well. Don't forget bosses have some gimmick like burning griffin wings, making hydra eat barrels and more.
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>>340400276
Same can be said the other way around

it's literally a vicious cycle and you have to be pretty naive to deny this
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