How are your HOI4 runs going?
>Playing as Nationalist Spain
>Crush the commies in the civil war in less than a year
>Join the Axis
>Start preparing for WWII
>Meanwhile in Germany Hitler decides he'd rather annex countries through fucking diplomacy
>Keep getting notifications about countries voting to join the Third Reich
>Get notifications about Hitler walking into a country's capital where he's greeted by adoring crowds
>Germany has annexed half of central Europe and parts of Yugoslavia without mobilizing a single soldier
>WWII meter never fills up because of this
>1940 and the meter is still below 30%
How long until game is below $30 on g2a?
>>340385430
The game is already cracked
Sounds like a great world you live in
>>340385449
That'd be stealing though
This game is so dumbed down.
I knew it was gona be shit, i knew it was gona be casualized as fuck, and yet i had hope that Paradox might notgo full retard.
Instead we get a retarded AI, horrible UI, almost 0 detail and shitty trade mechanichs.
>Buying 8 oil
>Only need 1
>The other 7 is just thrown in the trash instead of being stockpiled
Or the stupid factory mechanic, why remove the money system that always worked perfectly, instead i have to give up any infrastructure production if i want good trade.
And why in the fuck is Hitler blacked out, are we really at a point where we cant show a picture of Hitler, the face that literally any first world person knows?
>be literally Hitler
>build up army for two ears
>grab as much land as I can
>war comes
>invade Belgium and Poland
>they fall within weeks due to our superior Panzer III's
>drive straight to Paris from Belgium
>France capitulates within two weeks
>been building BF109's for years
>have 2000 of the fuckers
>complete air superiority over the English channel
>next step is Operation Sea Lion
Are you ready Britcucks?
>>340386030
So you can fantasize that Hitler is YOU!
>>340385320
fucking min max hitler.
>>340385320
Based Adolf. Western Europe is a fucking joke now.
>>340386030
Is it really THAT bad?
>>340385320
>be Paradox
>build geostrategic simulator
>fail to factor in Jew ability to push goyim into fratricidal wars
>>340386030
DLC
>>340385320
sounds like a dream
>>340386094
Light Tanks are OP in my opinion.
Its alot more convinient to spam them and then just give your infantry alot of AT upgrades to counter any enemy tanks.
>>340386094
>for two ears
better than one testicle i guess
>>340386094
Can you do final solutions? Even as Americans?
>>340386030
I've never played a HOI game before bit I understand literally everything after 10 hours of play. It really is basic as fuck. There are also barely any unique events, and you always follow the same tree every time you play that nation pretty much doing the same thing but 10% different.
Overall I'm disappointed.
>>340386215
Its could be ALOT better, definitelly a dumbed down and casualized experience from HoI3
>>340385672
if it is stealing in your mind, then it becomes stealing
>>340386030
Also with factories the country can only build one factory at a time. It takes months to build too
Is naval combat at least less of a clusterfuck as it was in III
>>340386348
>It really is basic as fuck
I think that puts it perfectly.
literally 0 depth to it.
>>340385320
>playing a more boring and casual version of Stellaris
Hohoho
Tigers have rolled over the Urals now, USSR is 7% away from capitulation, assuming that Japan being in the Axis has raised the VP requirement like in previous games.
>>340385320
Wow Im doing the same campaign
I absolutely rekd portugal and then helped italy take over all of africa
currently fending off d-day with my german buddies while amassing a gigantic collection of fighters to nuke london
hopefully germany gets its shit together and actually attacks ussr sometime soon so it doesn't just have a million divisions on the eastern front while the 120 or so american divisins prepare to take back france
also how did you join axis at 30% with the modifier?
>>340386564
Why would you ever let Japan in? You will need to give them land, and 95% of the time they attack America. Fuck that shit. Germany and Italy, and maybe Hungary is all you need.
>>340386643
>more depth
>sold better
>better received
>even /gsg/ is admitting Stellaris is better
Face it, history is boring.
>>340386030
hitler is only blacked out in countries where he's illegal to be shown, not pdx's fault. I have him in Canada no problem
>>340386787
>>sold better
The game literally came out yesterday
>>340386787
Stellaris is boring as fuck guy.
>>340386573
>also how did you join axis at 30% with the modifier?
I diplomatically improved relations first, and Hitler let me join the Axis a few months before the civil war started
>>340386787
>Stellaris
>>340386925
>Paradox hid the sales the day after HoI4 came out
Didnt want people to see it was selling like trash in comparison to Stellaris. Day 1 Stellaris was way ahead.
>>340386952
You must really hate HoI4 then because its got far less content and depth than Stel.
>>340386524
Have they finally added a mid/late game?
HITLER
MANA
>>340387129
Late game got fixed, AI is now smarted and doomsday events work better. Actually band together to combat disasters.
Mid game not so much
>launch game
>want to train soldiers
>have to use SS mana
>increase economy using autobahn mana
>increase diplomacy with axis mana
>want to do some shit and have to use some mana again
Why did paradox become so lazy?
>>340387187
They're a public company now, they have to report to shareholders, so maybe it will change
>Tencent took over 5%
Then again, Paradox could become Chinese tomorrow and the next update for HoI will be a flat buff to everything Chinese.
>>340385320
>Germany has annexed half of central Europe and parts of Yugoslavia without mobilizing a single soldier
Never mind, Hitler just diplomatically annexed the entirety of Yugoslavia, half of Lithuania, and half of Romania and nobody gives a shit. WWII meter is at 34%
It's 1941 and the country who contributed most to the meter is Japan
So how many tons of DLC are they going to release for this?
I've dumped quite a few hours into Italy just trying to learn the game, think I'm pretty certain what the fuck I'm doing now.
I tested out air support vs non-air support invading Yugo then Greece, and I dunno if maybe the Greek army is just way stronger, but my Yugoslavian invasion with air support was a walk in the park compared to attacking Greece purely with land troops, which was a total stalemate.
Is air support that crucial?
Also I accidentally sent a Battleship from production straight to an all-submarine fleet, and couldn't figure out how the fuck you detach it and send it to another fleet.
>>340387421
lel my japan got whooped by china
>>340386030
Hitler has a normal portrait on my copy.
>>340387635
In mine the Japs and the Nationalist Chinese have been suck in a stalemate for the past few years
USSR decided to support Nationalist China instead of Red China for some reason
>>340387862
Maybe they don't want global revolution after all.
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>playing as Peru
>annexing the entirety of Central America on my first playthrough, attempting to gain more decent production and reserves in order to function as a nation
>eventually become involved in a land war with Nicuaraga, nothing to worry about with ~50 divisions on hand and light armor at the ready
>CHILE enters the war on their side
>only one fucking sector connecting me and them
>they fill it with ~30 Divisions
>have to stage a simultaneous naval landing all along the coast several months later to end the stalemate in the mountains
My only complain about this game is the absurd number of rivers/mountains and the horrific penalties that they can inflict upon your force.
>>340387635
I always seem Japan get it's ass kicked by China and even kicked out of Korea by 1940.
Hell, Nationalist Spain loses nearly every game or is forced back into North Africa.
As a first HOI game it's pretty fun but I can already feel the lack of depth biting, similar to Stellaris.
Mods when?
>>340386281
Just like it was in the real war
>play as fascist Italy
>get ready for WWII
>max production and developent into planes and submarines
>laugh at the British
>>340387187
>not building a proper shrine for maximum Aryan mana
>>340387307
On the topic of China, they're already way overpowered. I'm not very good at HoI and alway shad trouble holding territory against the japs in 3, but managed to conquer all of Japan on my first try in 4. The game really became so fucking easy.
>that guy who play as a gommie
>Endless menus are fun
>>340386804
Its not illegal to show Hitler in any country
I own Hearts of Iron 3, but haven't played it.
is it good?
>>340390746
Like Stellaris, it's okay. My main gripe is the game has a strange problem where even though the mechanics aren't that deep, they're not explained that well either.
If you're going to buy the game wait for the DLCs to come out first, if you're going to pirate it, the game is only 1GB, so why the hell not.
>>340391282
>>340390746
Actually, either way I'd wait a while before getting it
The resources and wiki for it are pretty sparse and disorganized right now
>>340391282
>>340391385
Do you mean 4 or 3?
Im asking about 3
>Pick sweden
>Build up military until 1937
>Start quick and easy invasion of norway and completely decimate them
>Try to make a claim on finland
>France guarantees their independence out fo nowhere
>Wait until hitler attacks poland and invade denmark instead
>British troops start fucking me in the ass and america is somehow in the war now
>mfw they made UI even more atrociously garbage
>stupid paradox shit that makes no sense like in EUIV and CK2
>oh god why the UI
>Icons are tiny as fuck, have to zoom right in on 4k monitor to see if that is armour or infantry
>garbage garbage garbage garbage UI
for a game that is 90% looking at the UI they did a fucking horrible job.
well, good thing i pirated it.
>>340386459
If you have enough civilian factories you can build more than one thing at a time. Maximum of 15 factories can work on a thing at once, so if you have 30 you're building two things at max speed.
>>340386030
My Hitler isn't blacked out. Where do you live?
Why is Hitler darkened but people like Stalin and Tojo aren't?
>inb4 we wuz fuhrers and shiet
>>340393490
I google it and some people claim it's the German version.
>>340393490
I'm using some pirated copy I found online.
>make Ireland fascist
>take back NI
>Expand into Scotland
>Take all of Mainland Britain as Ireland
>Fight off Hitler
>Help free France
>Ally France
>Allies win
>Axis a kill
>No interesting achievement for being Ireland
fug
How possible is it to blob in HoI4 or the HoI series in general?
>>340393779
You pirated a shitty version. Go find skidrow's.
>>340394819
whats a safe, non-torrent link on skidrow?
>>340395221
>non-torrent
>safe
Pick one and use google.
>>340393756
that picso true
>>340395882
I'm sure it's not that ba
>>340386360
>ALOT
No matter how hard paradox try, they'll never manage to dumb anything down to your level.
>>340385320
> How are your HOI4 runs going?
Without resources
>>340396217
Want sum help?
It ain't free tho.
>>340386250
this desu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Only one side of history is taken into account in these grand strats games unfortunately, not the ugly side.
>>340391915
Yep, they tried fixing things like Balkan superpowers by making France and Britain guarantee everybody you fabricate a claim on after you annexed your first reasonably large country. Thanks Johan (I don't care if he's not lead for this, he's still responsible).
>>340396638
I hope we get a mod for it
>>340396397
Heh what i mean is this >>340386030
>can play CK2, EU IV and Viky2 without problems
>Try HoI3
>Barely able to even function as a country
>Try HoI4
>As a Baltic country I outteched Germany and manage to defend against an army 20 times my size without even trying that hard
It's kinda silly how fucking simplified the game is.
EU IV is more complex than it. It removed so much shit it's not funny
>Army without food, ammunition in the middle of enemy territory
>Only -33% debuf
>Country landlocked and surrounded by enemies
>Can trade without problems with it
>All minor countries have the same focus tree allowing them to become more advanced than the major powers
>66% of said focus is completely irrelevant while the rest allow you to transform your shitty third world country in a war machine capable of going toe to toe with any other super power in the world
>AI is mentally retarded
>tech tree is a fucking joke
>if you are not the UK there's literally no reason to even touch the navy because the UK will instantly kill it or the UK will instantly kill all enemy navies
>the trade system
>in all my games Denmark is able to kill Germany after Germany destroys everything
Did HoI3 fans even had any expectations? I mean even on the forums there's actually a sizeable chunk of people complaining about it without being drowned by the paradox drones.
>playing netherlands
>rushed production and research
>make super strong template for defense
>anti-tanks out the ass
>war breaks out
>hold the germans back until 1942
>they crush me under the weight of panzers and superior troop numbers
Anyone else do these impossible odds? I love knowing I made it that far
>introduce idea of tying national focus to nation you play as
>it'll make every nation unique!
>only have unique national foci for 6 countries in the entire world
I'd put 100 bucks on the fact that dlc is going to introduce at least three times as many unique focus trees than there were in the base game. Or they just say fuck it and make playing China or Hungary the same as playing fucking Tibet or some shit forever.
played for 5 minutes
uninstalled
reinstalled hoi3 with blackice
hoi4 was made for super ultra casual facebook users
>>340398047
This. Not only that, the UI in HOI is pretty bad, but IV is just fucking terrible, it does actually look like some farm-town tier browser game. it's so jarring and every icon pops out at me like some googly eyed kiddy puzzle game.
>>340385320
>>Germany has annexed half of central Europe and parts of Yugoslavia without mobilizing a single soldier
That's what happened in real life
>>340401395
This fucking guy
Germany mobilized for close to a decade before the war
>>340401827
>He doesn't know Germany annexed every nation in Europe diplomatically by sending legions of armed diplomats through their borders
Read moar
>>340391614
3 is a deeply broken game, so if you want an actual WW2 wargame it's not worth it
>>340401827
Yeah, and you have to do that in game too, you retarded monkey, you need a certain manpower in the field
It's way too easy.
>>340386030
At least it's not filled with RNG nonsense like EU4
>>340405207
Is that an australian empire?
>>340405438
It's the name they get as a fascist state.
>>340405586
Why is literally the entire western world fascist?
What have you done to England
>empire of the platypus
>not southern cross
nice meme
>>340390094
Yup. I was playing as Poland. Instead of doing the sensible thing of allying with commies or fascists I decided to stay neutral. I just gave Germans Danzig to avoid war. Year later Soviets attacked and I'm beating them rather comfortably and as time goes on they seem to put up less and less resistance. I just stopped playing in 1941. It's just not fun when game is this easy on your first try. I can't imagine how trivial it must be when playing as one of the majors.
>>340393756
http://okdiario.com/espana/cataluna/2016/06/05/salvaje-agresion-contra-puesto-apoyo-seleccion-barcelona-190498
>spain
>>340405902
I sent a volunteer force to the spanish civil war consisting entirely of a single Motorized and Panzer divisions under the command of Erwin Rommel.
I took Madrid, Valencia and then Barcelona within a month. It was fucking nuts.
>cutting a swathe right to victory points is completely ignored by AI troops because it is too complex for their premade battle plans
>literally only fought in 6 provinces: The outskirts of madrid, madrid itself, then cut all the way behind their lines without resistance to take valencia, then valencia's outskirts from behind before repositioning and cutting a 3 province swathe right through the heart to barcelona
>despite being the capital, only a couple infantry divisions moved to defend it
>nationalist spain only got a +6 to diplomacy from 'volunteer forces' despite the fact I basically won it single-handedly for them
Looks like HOI4 is a good point of start for somebody that never played a paradox game and want to try, isn't it?
>>340406758
Ha, the funny thing is I wasn't micromanaging units at all. I just set up battle plans and clicked execute button. I'm beating Soviet Union with sheer firepower and warm bodies. No fancy breakthroughs or anything, I just push whole line. It's dumb.
>>340408158
I bought HOI3 and tried to play it but I'm too casual, I suppose playing HOI4 and then HOI3 might ease my butthole a little bit.
Plus, I'm bad at geography, so maybe playing this might make me remember where the Adriatic sea is or some shit. So that's cool.
Simple answer, yeah.
>>340408158
It has basically taken over the "easiest grand strategy to start with" from EU4.
The gameplay has a lot of complexity, but very little depth, same as every other Paradox game. The only fun comes from using your knowledge of history to roleplay.
This is why Stellaris is so bad too, without the historical roleplay value, and with randomly generated symmetrical start, it's just completely boring
>>340396040
What the actual fuck
>>340408617
It's disappointing that there's not much strategy or organization involved with HOI4. You just draw a front and advancement lines, just shove units into the army, and the AI takes care of everything.
Is diplomacy broken like in hoi3?
>>340410236
Just because you're too retarded to see the game mechanics doesn't mean they don't exist
>>340410393
Nope they fixed a lot of it. There are even peace conferences where factions can split a defeated nation between themselves. Also: custom factions
>>340386573
Do nukes have consequences, like fallout and stuff?
