>No world wide release
>Dub only
How can Atlus US be so incompetent? What the fuck were they doing during all these delays?
>>340357398
Figuring out how to make anonymous people angry on the internet.
>>340357398
Waiting for new fresh meme like DAT BOI to include in the game.
>>340357398
Waiting for the Japanese release so they can buy one to translate.
I know what the fuck I'm doing.
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/how-to-jailbreak-a-ps3-that-is-already-on-3-55-ofw.1109943/
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R10.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xps3.TRS0&_nkw=ps3+3.55&_sacat=0
>>340357398
Yeah they're really incompetent. And the parent branch treats them like shit. But guess what, the game will be a smash hit sales wise, the 10 people who import won't make a difference, and they'll keep on doing what they're doing.
>>340358449
kek
So basically unfortunate people that don't know Japanese got cucked again.
What's new?
>>340357398
Guess is up to the communitt to fix this shit. PS3 pirate undub here i come. Fuck paying fatlus for their shit tier english va.
>>340358639
Yeah I want to do that too but I can't justify buying a another ps3 just for a fucking undub.
>>340358765
Wait, why do you want to hear Japanese VAs you don't understand one bit?
karma for shitposting #FE threads for the past few months.
>>340358878
But I want both persona 5 and #FE
>>340358854
My phat PS3 on OFW 4.80 died last week. I was pretty pissed about having to buy another one, but then this bullshit happened. In a weird way I got lucky.
>>340357398
>What the fuck were they doing during all these delays?
probably nothing because they didn't have a game to translate
Because they learned their lesson from P4U and decided that Americans need to wait and let Japan get the game first for a long time
>>340358864
Wait, why do you like Yuri Lowenthal so much?
>>340359350
he voiced my favorite character in naruto lol
>>340359350
I don't even know who that is. I know Japanese, so I can play the game as it's meant to be played and enjoy it. But it doesn't seem you can say the same.
>>340357398
Hiring english voice actors off the streets. It's not easy finding people willing to work for free.
>>340359446
Fuck! so he's like my bro who voices ichigo...might have to check him out...
>>340358864
Japanese original voice cast has standards.
1 out of every 50 students becomes a famous seiyu.
Eng. dub is try hard and expensive due to union contracts etc.
So leaving the regular voice actors and subbing/ Translating to English
is less out of pocket cost for Atlus. But seems like they are stupid enough not to know who their audience is.
They put them in a tough spot of, well you either purchase it or not.
Eventually fans will "force" purchase since they have no choice.
Others will eventually pirate it, or wait for the undub ver.
Or the ones that can moonrune will order the Jver.
>>340357398
Dub is best option, at least that way you can tell if the VAs are doing a good job or not.
>>340359451
They sound better to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But I guess I'm used to watching hundreds of foreign films from all over the world. You only watch japanese anime, yeah?
Isn't Nana Mizuki voicing one of the characters? There's no fucking way Atlus would be willing to pay royalties, etc. Last I checked, her income was in the millions.
>>340358864
I actually do but I don't know enough Kanji to play a game or read too much text. My other problem is that I actually enjoy original VA over dubs almost all the time and this doesn't stop on anime/videogames but also on movies/series whatever.
>>340359815
>You only watch japanese anime, yeah?
Nowadays I mostly read VNs and LNs.
And I guess English Youtube videos.
>>340359958
Then you don't really know anything about watching subtitled media. You should try it, anon! There's some good stuff!
>>340359897
She voiced Collete in Tales of symphonia and we ended up getting dual audio for the HD remake of this game.
I guess Bandai is actually based unlike Atlus.
>>340359948
>I actually do but I don't know enough Kanji to play a game or read too much text.
I don't want to be mean, but that sounds like you understand things like "Let's go to arcade after school." and "Protag-kun daisuki." That's cool, but hardly can be called understanding Japanese.
>>340359897
I want Nana.
>>340358864
All the good western voice actors don't work in anime with few exceptions
>>340360215
>i can recite the illiad in english from memory but i dunno what that alphabet shit is about senpai
it's plausible
Don't forget it will be censored as well
>>340358765
There will probably be a fan translation months before the official localization. It's just embarrassing.
>>340359897
Fucking Scamco did it
For a re-release of a game a decade old
Square Enix did it
For an HD port of a PSP game
Atlus can't do it for what is considered to be their biggest and most ambitious game ever.
>>340360215
Nahh I am a functional retard. I have vocabulary build up but I lack the grammatical structure of the language and I never bother to learn how to read Hira and Kana properly, let alone kanjis.
>>340360396
Fuck off
>>340359897
She can only get royalties from Japan ver. she isn't hired nor a citizen in the US. She can only get royalties from Japan contracts. Same vice versa, English version of games in Japan, English voice actors don't get royalties either. They are payed as contractors. The Unions in the US are what make Voice acting castings shit because they pay-out only a small fraction, which Unions do not like. They want more hence the MGSV fiasco.
>suffer through terrible dub like 99% of JRPGs
>import and play JPN version
>(maybe?) import and play ASN version with English subs/text
>hope for PS4 hack or Emu to play UNDUB version of game
I guess those are your only options? Personally I played P3/4 on PS2 emu with UNDUB and I plan on importing the japanese version of PS5.
>>340360335
>>340360445
Perhaps for simple words, but when you get to kanji compounds (熟語), you'll find find most of them have numerous homonyms. You might be able to remember the most commonly occuring one for the common compunds, but beyond then you're screwed. The way to recognize those is remembering the kanji compunds they're written with and recognizing the correct one. The pattern becomes "hearning the word" -> "assigning possible kanji compounds" -> "recognizing their meanings and choosing the correct one". You can't do this without knowing kanji in the first place.
Look like NoA taught Atlus USA a few thing.
>>340360953
Do the undubs work well on PCS2X?
Also Fatlus, at LEAST release P4G on PS4 or something if we aren't going to get P5 until FUCKING 2017!
Reminder to not buy anything from Atlus.
Pirate the PS3 version of the game.
Fuck these kikes.
>>340361631
Fuck off
>>340360396
>>340361241
>>340361631
Dude shut the fuck up. Atlus didn't censor YHVH from SMT Final, they went censor fucking tits. Stop spreading bullshit when there's actual shit to be angry about
>>340361549
Yes, I played both games 100% several times. P4 and P3FES.
>>340361773
>>340361949
There's no proof, but there's also no reason to deny it completely.
>>340357398
If you weren't expecting this, then you're fucking retarded.
>>340361631
>>340362417
Gaijin are impossible
>>340361773
>>340361949
>>340362657
Good goys, keep defending censorship.
>wanting Censorna after today
>>340362790
I was agreeing with you>>340362657
:(
Here's a box cover that isn't censored and where the characters aren't being obscured by the ESRB logo.
Send this to atlus you fucking apologists.
>>340362959
Wow, a flip, how professional
Except now the MC looks like a left-handed freak
Blame Nintendo.
SMT IV, Persona Q, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, SMT IV: Apocalypse. All of these products took time and resources away from Persona 5.
>>340362790
>>340362902
>This much of a tinfoil you think everyone is against you
Goy is you indeed.
>>340363251
You're very rude. I now support censorship.
>>340362804
>>340362959
Get a life
>>340360953
>>suffer through terrible dub like 99% of JRPGs
This isn't even the case anymore. 99% of JRPGs released these days have the original audio as an option. Atlus just fucking hates you and they want you to be unhappy. They won't even give you the privilege of paying $20 for the Japanese audio because they hate you so fucking much that it overrides their love of money.
>>340362790
>goy
>YHVH is the true villain
>YHVH is the final boss
>you can kill YHVH
>surely the Jews are behind this
Retard.
>>340361631
What's been censored? All they did was move the cat further into the picture so her face isn't hanging off the end of the cover.
>>340361631
Japan gets a shitty artifacted cover and superior American printing doesn't?
>>340357398
>Dub only
Is this officially confirmed? I know it's Atlus but I still have a bit of hope they might reconsider this since this is like their very big major release
>buying censored trash
>>340364346
Atlus guy (forgot his name) tweeted and replied to a bunch of comments saying that they're looking into it, but not get your hopes up basically.
Stuff like
>Jap voices addon would be a monumental project
>English dub will be professional and very high quality
>etc
Looking at their track record, don't expect it. Sorry.
Reminder that you can't trust Atlus.
They are CENSORING the game and you are being lied to.
>>340362959
really, Soejima should have taken the ESRB logo into account when drawing the damn thing in the first place
>>340363619
you might as well be saying "stop being passionate about this." anger is a sign of caring. it happens to both people "with a life" and those "without a life"
So who is Burch gonna voice?
>>340365316
why would he
>>340365526
Please don't let it be Anne.
>>340366130
I like how she could be casted for any of them
>>340365526
Hopefully just NEET pussy and not best girl Angry Biker
>>340365526
Most likely the Futaba.
>>340360396
This is so stupid, especially when its zoomed in. You can see the ugly retarded neet showing way more skin, left untouched in the english version. Its literally a case of needing/wanting to fit everyone on the cover and they cant overwrite the esrb logo.
Was there a western release date announced? Did I miss something?
>>340366530
February 14, 2017 (NA)
June 19, 2019 (EU)
>>340366530
Fucking February.
>>340359897
Voice actors are hired by agencies who pay them, and unless JP company makes a contract that explicitly gets them rights to the voices, the rights stay in the agency.
Most other companies whose games get localized have realized what's up, which is why you see niche releases with big-name VAs getting dual-audio.
Atlus just doesn't give a fuck, and if original JP side did a bad contract, there's not much that localization side can do about it, especially if they have set budget for localization. But PR can't exactly name that as a reason for English-dub only, so they skirt around issue talking about technical problems.
>>340366652
>>340366656
>>340366530
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/06/07/persona-5-will-take-your-heart-on-valentines-day-2017/
>>340357398
PE3 undub > dub
PE4 dub > undub
>>340367157
I disagree.
>>340365316
Soejima should have done something about Anne's neck.
>>340367480
Soejima is bad at necks.
>>340367583
>>340367480
>tfw necks are my favorite part of a girl because theyre fun to lick, strangle, and put dick on
Soejima is my dude
It's not Atlus US who is at fault for this.
It's Atlus Japan.
No World Wide Release is only being done to prevent the Japanese from importing cheaper copies of the game from other regions rather than paying Japan's inflated prices.
Dub only is also because they want to deincentivize the Japanese still willing to wait the 5 months by saying they won't get to play the game with their favorite VAs, just with foreigners voicing characters
>>340367943
>No World Wide Release is only being done to prevent the Japanese from importing cheaper copies of the game
The difference between Arena and P5 is that Arena's localization was already done.
Think about all the time Atlus has wasted delaying this game over and over
In that amount of time they could have remastered Nocturne
Fucking think about that
>>340368265
why would they remaster a bad game
>>340367943
>Dub only is also because they want to deincentivize the Japanese still willing to wait the 5 months
who in their right mind would do such a thing? seriously, how frugal do you have to be to do this?
>>340368053
P5's localization could be fucking done as well if the Japanese weren't holding it back to prevent importing.
They don't want another fucking "WOOPS ALL THE ENGLISH TEXT IS IN THE FILES TEEHEE WE'RE HOLDING IT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE GREEDY" publicity bullshit.
So they limit how much they all to be translated at a time as an excuse for "No Global Release because it takes "time" to localize"
Fucks sake, this isn't the days of P3 and P4. If they wanted a global release with translation, they could do it
>>340368518
I've waited for plenty of games for a price drop.
>>340366695
Why is Atlus so hostile to money?
>>340368613
I'm pretty sure it's because Atlus has three different RPGs to localize, all of them being MegaTen games
Atlus is one of the stupidest companies in existence. Why doesnt sega or sony whoop their ass and take control of this game? Sega would easily have this come out before 2017
>>340368613
>They don't want another fucking "WOOPS ALL THE ENGLISH TEXT IS IN THE FILES TEEHEE WE'RE HOLDING IT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE GREEDY" publicity bullshit.
What do you mean by this?
>>340369670
It's fucking self explanatory you retard. People found the English text in the Ultimax Japanese release before the game was released.
>>340369069
Sega treats Atlus as an independent company, Sega europe can't even localize p5 with out Atlus' permission.
Nothing can excuse waiting 5 more months after three fucking delays.
>>340370161
So you're saying it was good to go but they delayed it a month just to prevent imports? You'd think the lack of Japanese audio would accomplish that in and of itself.
And why a five month delay? Surely they could strategically manage it down to a month or two instead of sacrificing the entire hype window.
>>340367157
No.
>>340370307
what was even the point of sega buying atlus then if they function as individuals? 3 delays...december 2014 to september 2016. why??? why????? im glad i still have my ps3. im going to pirate this shit so hard, fuck atlus.
>>340370662
To make profit off of their games while doing nothing.
>>340357398
Just import?
>Atlus doesnt censor games
>they just changed it so it wouldnt get in the way of the ESRB rating
>Not seeing the delicious irony in that statement
>haven't even heard the dub yet
>it's automatically bad
I get it, you want to play the game in it's original Japanese, that's fair enough. But seriously subfags act like every english dub is Bible Black tier bad, even if they haven't listened to it yet.
>>340371883
We don't know that the dub will be bad, but there's no way in hell it will be as good as the Japanese version.
>>340358449
10/10 post
>>340372156
Glad Im not an obese anime watcher otherwise Id be mad that my favorite low budget late night cartoon voice actors arent in a game
>>340371107
so what in the game was censored?
>5 month difference
>Collectors edition is far worse
WAKE ME UP INSIDE /V/
PLEASE
>>340372156
That's subjective though. The nips aren't some godly race of VAs
>>340372313
and I'm glad you get to feel better by putting down anonymous people on an online anime imageboard.
>2016
>Japanese company still not releasing RPGs at the same time worldwide
Fucking retarded
At least SE is not being fucking stupid
>>340372313
At least they can get work in cartoons. Atlus USA's VAs wish they could.
>>340372501
Square does what atlus don't
>>340372489
Just like how they put down english voice actors who will achieve far more in life than they ever will. Obese weebs shouldnt throw stones if they topple over so easy and break down
>>340372483
No, it isn't subjective. And it isn't about inherent quality between races and nationalities.
All of the good American VAs are working in American productions. Dubbing foreign media is bottom of the barrel work. There are plenty of great American VAs but they're out of Atlus USA's budget. Instead they use and reuse rejects who can't get work anywhere else.
Meanwhile Atlus of Japan gets top tier VAs.
>>340372337
nothing, but the box art was
>art
>censoring art
>>340372704
I'll keep that in mind while im playing the game
>>340372762
cool. you should
>>340372701
The Japanese dub of P4 was godawful.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10428150
>>340372974
I agree that it wasn't that great, and some of the characters are painful to listen to to the point where I'd take the English dub anyday in spite of several shit English VAs. But situations like that are rare, and it clearly isn't going to be the case with P5.
>>340372701
You're fucking retarded.
>>340372337
Your mom was censored you cunt.
>>340373219
What an argument.
>>340372506
>Atlus USA's VAs wish they could.
Any VA that's voiced a main character has though, at least for Persona games
Is John Hardin or whatever in this thread? I know he posts on /v/
>>340373316
You're referring to Yuri Lowenthal and JYB? What are they in? And I don't mean as bit parts. Going back to games, Yuri Lowenthal for example is in every Western game but never in a significant capacity, because he can't be a lead.
>>340373472
doubtful, he probably went to bed already after a tough day online
>>340373472
He is working in making dual audio possible.
>>340373721
He's a lying asshole
>>340373575
I wouldn't blame him
www.strawpoll.me/10428150/
>>340360396
It's because of the fuckhuge ESRB logo, dumbass. I actually took and image like tours into paint and put the ESRB logo where the CERO logo is on the jap version. It completely obscures like 75% of the cats face.
>>340374618
A stupid question. Anyone who can speak nip will import, anyone who cannot will not.
>>340373721
>muh impossibly massive task
>muh great English VAs
He's not.
>>340360396
oh my fucking god shut uuuuuuuuuuup
atlus has a history of doing this. first noticed it with the original release of devil survivor. edited it so you see less of the sideboobs for one of the characters. there's been more than a few covers since then that received the same treatment.
basically the esrb size thing is just a nice excuse that actually works in their favor. trust me, they'd make the same edit regardless of the esrb icon size
>FATlus continues to censor even though they know all it does is piss of the weebs who are the only audience for Persona games
It's sort of funny when you fully realize they the publisher despises you. It makes you feel like pirating is an appropriate choice, like how you should never pay for a Nintendo game since they censor everything that comes to their baby console.
>>340376878
>cover changes because ESRB logo (seriously, go shoop the image to put the ESRB on the Jap cover. you can hardly see the cats face)
>"lol whole game is censored! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Sretching a bit far there, dimwit.
>They censor a non-issue.
Now I'm aftraid of what they will do with Etrian Odyssey.
Which is a game on the 3DS.
>censor everything
>all the sprites will have flat chest and fully clothed
>Fencer, rabbit-samurai, and necromancer ruined
I'll fucking go ahead with the A9LH and pirate. Gonna sell all my bought games and just keep a hacked 3DS XL if it happens
>>340360215
You are a retard. Kanji has nothing to do with speaking Japanese.
>hurr you can't speak English if you can't read and write
Guess all those people in the history of the language just were speaking gibberish then.
>>340362959
You flipped the fucking image you retard, so everything is backwards.
Do you people not have functional brains?
>>340357398
>How can Atlus US be so incompetent?
What makes you think they have a say on either of those? They are Atlus JP's bitch. If they Glorious Nippon masters say Western release has gotta be several months later, or that they can't have the seiyuus, that's that.
>simultaneous release
>quad audio
Squeenix is too based.
>>340378114
Too bad they skipped the make a good game part.
>>340378114
Now if only they could design a good game. Still, I'll sing them praises for trying, and for treating their customers with respect.
Tortanic ruined this board
Everything must be a blunder
>>340377796
>so everything is backwards
I flipped ur mum so she's backwards now too.Can you even think of a better shitpost, you fucking apologist?
:^ )
>>340378114
GOTY
>>340377796
>You flipped the fucking image you retard, so everything is backwards.
wouldn't that mean everything is mirrored, not backwards? sounds like you're the one with brain problems
>>340378212
>judging a game before release
cancer killing /v/
>>340378212
>>340378227
Please, this game looks way better than your anime rehash.
>>340378212
>>340378227
>>340378412
They're both looking good, shut the fuck up.
>>340378114
Its going to be funny going from this game, this massive massive game, with tons of more detail, live combat, a more interesting story that goes beyond le evil deity man and stealing le hearts!!, and a giant open world to drive and fly around with tons of side shit to do to...persona 5.
>>340378489
Neither are looking good, let's be realistic.
>>340378376
Everything is backwards in a mirror retard holy shit. That word means more than turned around 180 degrees.
>>340378489
I played the demo of FF15. Your I'M SO LOGICAL BECAUSE I'M NEUTRAL shit has no place here. FF15 played like shit. The controls were shit. It performed like shit and the combat was god fucking awful.
The story looks like your typical melodramatic FF affair and it's shaping up to have no redeeming qualities.
Enjoy your latent homosexuality simulator faggot.
>>340378083
This really. NA release is cheaper than Japanese and Atlus already promised no more region locks so solve that with no dual audio.
>>340378534
It's a Final Fantasy game. That purple haired fedora man is going to be some avatar/servant of some dark god who is ushering in an apocalypse. You beat him up. The end.
So I'm just forced to accept that I'm gonna get spoiled well before I get to play. Great.
>>340378804
Just avoid /v/ for 8 months.
>>340378114
>Kingdom Hearts with cars
>>340379019
I only. Kingdom Hearts was fun and challenging.
>>340378247
this
>>340378873
That's obviously not gonna happen
>>340378714
Even if it falls back to such things, the sound of stirring up an apocalypse while nations are duking it out and playing as the cast right in the middle of both conflicts sounds a lot more interesting than stealing the heart from le corrupt pervert businessman/teacher
>>340379114
You would think so, but no. XII tried something like that and failed miserably at it.
That said, the heart stealing thing sounds fucking terrible assuming they're going to play it straight and aren't aware of how morally abhorrent it is.
>>340358864
For the same reason I don't want french dub (and I'm french)
>>340379221
I havent play 12 so i wouldnt know. Trying something and then failing miserably in this case, sounds better than the outright fucking terrible idea that is p5. The more and more i found out about the game the less i cared for it, amazing. Everything after the first trailer has just been so disappointing and predictable. Theyre trying to reveal as much as they can to adhd retards.
Like i dont get the point of people threatening to spoil the game. We know everyone relevant the party, and can assume how theyll behave/talk because of stale anime tropes weve seen for years. We know the story. We know a lot of the dungeons and what month they will happen. Now weve seen the gameplay menus and gameplay itself. We know theres events like summer trips and all that from p3. Whats left? Social links, a death or two, and the ending where you fight another god of destruction like izanami?
P5 is going to have the shortest legs of any persona i can feel it.
>>340379596
It's a result of the endless delays. If they had had their way the marketing period would be a lot shorter and we'd have only gotten 2 or 3 trailers. In an alternate universe the game was PS3 exclusive, came out in 2015, and the boxart only featured the MC and first 4 party members.
>>340360450
>>340361949
>>340366457
>>340374765
>>340376218
>>340361773
>>340364172
>>340364181
>>340362657
But if that was a Nintendo boxart tho...........................................................................................................
>>340379814
I fucking wish...no idea why Sega or Sony couldnt be assed to port it to PS4 in the meantime. So disappointing how much has been revealed and theres still cucks that want to see more. Whats there to show besides fucking cutscenes in a story driven rpg? These are the adhd retards i was referring to. Thanks a lot faggots
>>340379596
the trailers have already shown the dungeons and battle system are more complex than P3 and P4 hallways, that alone will make it a better game to play especially by your theory that the story will be serviceable as well
>>340380381
The gameplay in 3 and 4 is just fine for the limitations and target audience of the ps2. Clearly it would get an upgrade in some manner. They didnt need to show every last thing and leave us with nothing new to discover
>>340379921
I'd still say it's because of the fucking ESRB logo. ESPECIALLY with Nintendo because they are anal as fuck about their characters images.
>>340380653
plot aside, i just see upgrades everywhere like better looking character models and Catherine sequence visual design. Also feels great to have SMT demons being back as enemies instead of lame Shadows.
i just think P3 and P4 are only discussed today because of the memorable characters and waifu wars, they had a lot of flaws and
>>340381396
They're memorable enough simply because of their unique structure and concept. That's a large part of the reason P3 was so successful. Turn it into a traditional dungeon RPG and it wouldn't have been as successful even with the same characters and story.
For evidence, see the Digital Devil Saga duology, the best Final Fantasy game ever made and Atlus' attempt at getting the mass market before Persona 3 succeeded. It flopped.
>>340381605
We have yet to see any of the social sim gameplay at all even vague ideas of how it works which is weird to me, if it was like how it was in past games they would be featuring it in trailers but it's completely under wraps which is why the pv's overall didn't give away too much to me
In the past Atlus USA has said that they have absolute faith in their English dubs.
This is actually true. In fact, they have more faith in them than original developers do in the Japanese actors.
Think about, with each Persona game new characters are voiced by different actors, and no actors are shared between characters. That is in Japan, at least. This is because developers don't have faith in characters enough to give them more than one role. The actors are unreliable.
But in West, they keep using same actors for different characters in series, sometimes even in the same game! Clearly the western voice actors are more reliable, and it's easier to keep re-using them than getting new talent that'd be arguably cheaper!
In fact, the Japanese voice actors are so unreliable that simply including their work in western version would put it at risk. Atlus is only being sensible by giving us English dubs that feature same actors over and over again.
>>340357398
Can't wait to be spoiled about fucking everything months before I have a chance to get the game
>>340360417
>There will probably be a fan translation months before the official localization. It's just embarrassing.
kids these days sure are naive
>>340382639
Yeah but who cares about dubs? I'm playing a Japanese game I want to hear Japanese voices.
>>340360417
Fan translators refuse to do a project that has an official release announced.
I remember when the Danganronpa 2 translation was dropped because of NISA, even though they were only releasing the Vita version, and the team was doing PSP.
>>340383605
Shitty FE Fates fan translation just made a precedent which will probably never be repeated, and faggots think that'll work same for any other title cause translating game is easy, right?
>>340383276
You don't know what you're wishing for. The Japanese voices are dangerous.
>tfw best girl NEET pussy is voiced by Aoi Yuuki
Fuck you Atlus you lazy cunts
>>340383605
Another example:
FF Type-0 PSP took forever and ever but finally got an August that year release date because they wanted to give it one last fine tooth combing bug checking and localisation spell check and shit.
Around E3 that year, rumours started trickling out that it was going to Xbox and PS4 and they essentially got a tip-off and pushed out what they had before release and basically disowned it asap.
>>340384118
Like it has to do with laziness. Seiyuu voice rights are expensive, son.
>>340384316
not as expensive as they make it sound
also their own fault not including this into a contract when VA were hired.
>>340384316
Only when you don't negotiate to keep the licensing in the contract. Which is all on Atlus of Japan.
>>340384462
>expecting japs to make an extra effort with gaijins in mind
>>340384634
Every other company manages to do it.
>>340384634
Most big JP games developed with western sales in mind, mostly cause they usually outsell whatever sold in JP
Atlus USA just had no balls to try and mention dual audio to Atlus cause they are deluded about their VAs.
>>340384634
Just about every other company does it. Square managed it with four goddamn languages with FFXV.
>>340384634
>square does it
>bamco does it
>capcom does it
>even fucking compile heart does it
Take your (You) and fuck off already
>>340384803
I can assure you that Atlus USA doesn't believe in and of that bullshit and would love to put Japanese audio in the game and please their fans if they could. But Atlus won't let them do it cheap, presumably to stop importing, and they aren't going to spend millions to put Japanese audio in out of their own pockets just to please fans.
>>340384903
>out of their own pockets
You mean out of the pockets of those pleased fans. Why should they be excused for going dub only when pretty much every other company does dual audio now?
>>340384903
>I can assure you that Atlus USA doesn't believe in and of that bullshit and would love to put Japanese audio in the game and please their fans if they could. But Atlus won't let them do it cheap, presumably to stop importing, and they aren't going to spend millions to put Japanese audio in out of their own pockets just to please fans.
that'd be all fun and wonderful, but everything Atlus USA ever says and does goes completely against what you described.
Don't you remember short lived poll which made you to choose between physical goods and dual audio which was closed as soon majority of Atlus fanbase already voted but yet to spread info about it on the net?
>>340385151
Buying the rights to the Japanese audio would probably cost more than the localization itself.
Those other companies don't have to pay out of pocket because their core Japanese branch doesn't hate Westerners and negotiates the contract with the talent agency to ensure they can reuse the audio in any region on any platform at any time at no extra cost.
Did you forget how Atlus region locked their only game with dual audio just to prevent importers?
>>340385295
>Buying the rights to the Japanese audio would probably cost more than the localization itself.
ahahahaha, oh wait you are serious
>>340385295
Even eroge localizers can bring JP voices over. Are you telling me that visual novel developers handle their contracts better than big business like Atlus?
>>340385283
Hardin is a PR guy. Everything he says is a lie. If he's in a situation where they can't get dual audio, he's going to pretend it's about pride in VAs or some shit because saying that they literally can't do it isn't pleasing.
I remember the poll. It was probably meant to make people who want dual audio think they are a minority so they'll stop demanding something they'll never get.
>>340385503
I'm telling you that Atlus is deliberately mishandling the contract to prevent Japs from importing American copies at half the price and switching the audio to Japanese. This is also why localizations are delayed.
>>340385501
>>340385503
he's right, when big names like pic related are involved Atlus couldn't guarantee making back how much it would cost even with $10 JP voices DLC
>>340385670
If the contract were negotiated properly they wouldn't even need to pay extra for it.
On the other end of the spectrum you have stuff like the Silent Hill HD collection where they had to redub it because they couldn't renegotiate the license/pay royalties.
>>340385670
isn't 7th dragon for 3DS published by Sega (who owns Atlus) has some of those VA?
What about #FE not having dub at all?
>>340385731
>If the contract were negotiated properly they wouldn't even need to pay extra for it.
which brings us back to >>340384634 do you get it now? it's a catch 22
>>340385768
nintendo has money to spare
>>340386034
Again, just about every single other Japanese publisher does it, large or small. Atlus is increasingly alone in their refusal to give fans what they want.
>>340386034
suuuure. for a game which sold terribly and very niche they really have money to spare to point of not having dual audio in FE Fates and Xenoblade X.
also nice of you to ignore 7th dragon, how convenient.
Despite not offering the Japanese voices I still like persona enough to support the localized version. I bought the CE for the ps4 and I'll pirate the ps3 version for the undub.
>>340357398
>>340357398
>being EOP
>waiting months to play your games
Feels good getting all my games uncensored and without shitty "localizations".
Enjoy your spoilers FaNaa㎡-senpai
>>340385768
#FE was published by Nintendo and all the contractual work and licensing would have been handled by them I imagine.
Just look at the localization. Atlus USA is involved in it but they aren't publishing or marketing it in any way. That's all Nintendo.
>>340357398
>want to be a coin slot eyed trash this badly
Why would you subject yourself to an aesthetically unpleasant language like Japanese? The voices are 100% from the nose, no throat or chest. It's like hiring Fran Drescher to narrate all your books.
No WW release is the biggest kick in the dick. It's going to be hell on earth to try and avoid all of the spoilers.
>>340386325
>Fran Drescher
Go to bed grandpa.
>>340386201
So they can license Atlus stuff while they can't do that with their own series like FEFates and XCX yet Atlus USA itself can't license Atlus stuff. Cause reasons.
nice.
>>340386447
Nintendo doesn't care about their fans obviously, they're as bad as Atlus if not worse. I think with KOWASHITAI the reason they went for Japanese only is because it would actually be harder to dub it into English than it would be to sell it as a Japanese only game. I mean, just look at it. And the singing.
>>340379921
>Nintendo removes an entire dungeon, outfits, features, and dialogue in their games.
>Atlus alters the box art to fit in the ESRB logo.
Its not even fucking comparable.
Who else here actually likes the Persona 3 and 4 dubs?
Hearing everyone say senpai and kun made the game more fun and enjoyable. Hearing Rise say Senpai made my dick diamonds.
>>340386541
I just don't buy "licensing JP voices is SOOO EXPENSIVE" until I'll see total price breakdown
only info today on that is XSEED which barely turns into profit and their idea of "expensive" certanly different from bigger publishers.
and they still manage to include dual audio in quite a few games.
>>340360780
>They want more hence the MGSV fiasco.
I forgot what happened with that. Can you fill me in?
how the fuck am i supposed to avoid spoilers for five months?
>>340386646
Honestly, the dubs are not that bad. I still prefer the Japanese voices but I'm not going to throw an autistic fit about it.
>>340384812
Quad audio and subtitles in 8 languages. Meanwhile, Atlus are unironically proud that their allegedly biggest game will get translated "100%" into English.
>SMTIV was an exception, even Final comes out 5/6 months from release
>Still no EP PSP
>or Devil Summoner 1
>Or lots of the 80/90 era games
>believing atlus would do sub ever when the only exception is non voiced games and one with Nintendo backing
Why are the persona bitches here whining? What do you expect?
>>340386646
P3's dub is shit. A few characters sound good but for every Junpei there's a Chidori. Meanwhile the Japanese dub is great all around.
P4's English dub is slightly stronger, and the Jap dub is quite a bit worse than the P3 one.
>>340385625
The game is already delayed by several months, no Japanese player would wait that long just to save few thousand yen to get game with UI and text in language they don't understand.
The reason Arena was region locked was because Japanese and Western releases were totally identical. You could switch Japanese text on if you so wished, and it had simultaneous release.
I doubt they'll let you do that with Persona 5, and the game is already delayed. So argument of Japanese importing it is ridiculous.
>>340387142
How long now has the If... translation been at 80% complete?
>>340386646
The dubs, especially Persona 4, remind me of Saturday morning cartoons and the dubbed anime they would put out.
I like the dubs, I don't understand why people get mad over not having Jap voices because then they'd probably just get mad about something not being properly translated.
>>340386818
I just said that it's only expensive if the contract doesn't take that into account and allow the game publisher to retain the rights. If the contract is done properly the publisher can continue to use the Japanese audio in any territory on any platform even decades later at no extra cost.
>>340387323
I don't argue there, my initial chain at reply started at >>340385295
>Buying the rights to the Japanese audio would probably cost more than the localization itself.
D-Don't worry guys! Just wait till E3. We're gonna steal back the release date, r-right?
This game is gonna be Persona 5: Persona 4 Again Edition fuck me.
At least they'll use those demons for SMTV and Raidou on console right? haha
>>340387585
I do wonder what they have in store for E3. Probably absolutely nothing.
>>340357398
>implying the dub of p3 was bad.
>implying the dub of p4 was bad.
>implying catherine'dub wasn't superior.
Where did this hate Atlus meme come from?
>>340366652
how can atlus usa be so fucking irrelevant
>>340387697
The dub of P3 is objectively vastly inferior to the original Japanese.
I'd tolerate equal treatment for P4 since several Japanese VAs are ear cancer inducing.
I'd prefer Catherine in English. It probably helps that it's set in Burgerland with English speaking characters making it feel more natural.
>>340387697
>implying the dub of p3 was bad
But it was bad. How can you even argue this? P4 was good and Catherine dub was great.
>>340387697
Persona 3 had pretty decent dub outside Fuuka, yeah.
The dub of Persona 4 was pretty shitty.
Both share the problem of main cast giving best performance, and everybody else sounding worse.
>>340387779
>I'd tolerate equal treatment for P4 since several Japanese VAs are ear cancer inducing.
Rise, Yosuke, and Teddie's Japanese VAs were awful.
>>340387694
Well Hardin said that their E3 presentation will bring forth some kind of understanding to the whole release date thing. I probably shouldnt be expecting much, but I still have one little glimmer of hope
>>340387697
P3/P4's dubs were only tolerable if you were a weeaboo and could put up with everyone saying kun and chan and senpai and shit all the time, and if you're that much of a weeb then why wouldn't you just want Japanese voices?
If you're not a weeb then they're shit dubs due to a shit script.
>>340387891
Those were the ones I was thinking of. Never thought I'd find myself defending Yuri Lowenthal.
>>340387697
Only good dubs are ones not persona.
Were people this pissed off when this exact same thing happened every other time a persona game came out?
>>340387891
To be fair, Teddie was designed to be annoying as shit. That's like the point of his character. They added huge amounts of terrible puns for the English version just to make him more annoying.
Atlus proved that they can make a decent dub with Catherine and SMT 4 in my opinion. The thing is that the persona 5 japanese dub has some god tier voice actors and the previous persona dubs forced honorifics into them which sounded awful.
>>340388265
>SMT 4
no
>>340388265
SMT IV's main cast was fine. Anyone who doesn't have at least a few hundred lines was clearly recruited off the street.
>>340388125
No.
No one had any idea Persona existed until a few years after Persona 4 came out when it got a lot more popular.
>>340357398
I-I have failed you guys
I am sorry, I just gave up after so long. I would import but don't have time to learn nip. Matter of fact just came back from work and it's 3 AM.
guys, what if by some miracle, the dub ends up superior to the japanese voice acting? like, what if it's cowboy bebop levels of good? is it just wishful thinking?
>>340388487
Stop being a fag and stop caring was weeb /v/irgins think.
>>340388487
>Caring about what /v/ thinks
>>340358125
>>340357398
The only thing they were incompetent on is the release date. If you honestly though fatlus would give you dual audio, then you're just fucking delusional. They'll probably cave in though, and sell you them for 20 dollars like squeenix does.
