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>>340348365
This is kinda depressing. Short of Deus Ex this is pretty much the only Western game I was looking forward to.
I mean I know its EA, but I really did like the first one.
>>340348954
Even IGN doesn't like MEC.
It's shittier than the first pretty much in every way.
>>340348365
Wait, a sequel came out. What happened?
it's not as bad as the user scores make it out to be
it's not good by any means, but it's not shit either
you can pretty much turn off all the annoying runner's shit
the terrain is okay, but suffers from the disorganization you would expect from an open world game
combat is shit, but we knew that going into it
all in all, solid 7 can even go up to an 8 at times
>>340348365
NOBODY RELEVANT IS STREAMING THIS GAME
>shit game gets a shit sequel
Who could see it coming?
>>340349192
>Added hud
>focus on combat which in turn made the combat worse
>grappling hook
>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
>overdesigned aesthetic
>open world
>>340348365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqOsE8HRZJQ
>>340348365
all the reviews i've read said it was a bad game for being like mirrors edge.
i'll probably buy it since that's what I want.
I don't know what the fuck they expected it to be like.
>>340349337
>it's not good by any means
>solid 7
What the fuck?
>>340349460
That is fucking tragic.
It's insane how they can fuck up a game about parkour the 1st games free running obstacle courses are still some of the most fun I've had.
>>340349337
>it's not good by any means
>7
wouldn't a 5 be more appropriate?
>>340349862
>it's not good by any means
>7
>wouldn't a 5 be more appropriate?
More like a 2-3 with points added for aethetics and grafix.
>>340348954
Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking boogeymen. Maybe the game isn't well received because it's a shit game.
>>340349460
Jesus christ.
>game everyone knew was going to be bad is bad
What a surprise.
>>340349428
>streaming
>relevant
Reminder that if you unironcally put those two words together your shit
>>340349858
>hey guys we made an almost entirely unique game that did well
>what should we do?
Sit on it for a decade then make a sequel
>Okay what should be in the sequel? More of the same on a better engine with more content right?
No, follow gaming trends that are falling out of favor and give it a thin veneer of the original games content taken wholesale.
>>340349460
open world is literally the only good sounding thing about it
>>340350734
It ends up taking away from the overall level design
open world was incredibly unnecessary
>>340349337
>It's not good
>Solid 7
YOU ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WORLD. YOU'RE SO FUCKING RETARDED.
Was Mirror's Edge ever good? I don't understand the suprise and why they made a sequel.
I like Faith, though.
>>340349337
>this is what IGN actually believes
>>340349337
I wonder who's behind this post?
>>340351005
Mirror's Edge is one of my favorite games. There are undoubtedly massive flaws, but at its core it's a very solid first-person platformer with a fair amount of depth and a unique aesthetic. The pure time trials DLC is god-tier. I was definitely looking forward to a sequel so they could remove the combat, fix the story, and give us more great level design to time trial on. Unfortunately with Catalyst they seem to have done the exact opposite, plus murdered the visual design to boot.
>>340348954
have you considered that the game is bad?
>>340349160
>>340350054
>>/pol/
>>340348365
Pray for Woolie
>>340348365
>980 to run at 1080 on high settings
>origin only
SAVE MAAAY
ME was a sleeper hit.
I bought my copy for £3 in a bargain bin.
>>340349460
>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
What in the unholiest of fucks
>>340351005
It was okay. Not holy shit amazing but not bad either. I can't imagine paying more than $10 for it though.
>>340351819
It's EA, they manage to fuck up basic concepts
>>340349460
>grappling hook
>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
Are you serious? That's like having a first person shooter and forcing you to level up shooting so you can use a gun.
>>340352191
AKA every FPS made in the last 10 years. Thankfully overwatch removed that cancer.
>>340351491
Hit the nail on the head.
>remove the combat
Instead we get the lazy hand-to-hand shit and even more forced combat sections.
>fix the story
Instead it's a generic coming of age story with incompetent and annoying characters that are constantly shoved in your face.
>great level design
Instead the city is a bland open world, and skill tree unlocks ensure every area is accessible only through basic moves.
>>340349460
>open world
>leveling system
oh for fuck's sake WHY
>>340348365
>>340348437
>>340348751
>>340348751
WAKE ME UP, CANT WAKE UP SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>340351528
Hey, I mainboard on /pol/, and they fucking hate Gamergate. Because everyone does. Because Gamergate is everyone's scapegoat. You just stop being an intellectually lazy prick and substantiate your fucking arguments, you faggot.
Just played like 4 hours and I can say if I didn't just drop $60 on it I wouldn't sill be playing it.
>graphics somehow got worse
>worst open world design in the history of ever
>can never tell if I'm looking at a wall or the floor
>it's always too bright or too dark
>one hit kill most guards
>always falling through the map or going through the wall
>always either die or survive 4 feet drops
>nogunz
>doesn't feel as open as the first game somehow
>open world game now means no where is polished and detailed so it's always super boring
>open world cancer claims another game
Remember when yahtzee shat all over the original game because he thought 1st person platforming was always a terrible idea, and then it caught on like wildfire?
>>340353259
Well I mean yahtzee is a fucking idiot
>>340352004
They just "innovated too hard" again.
I think you don't actually control the grapplehook
Also just saw a streamer beat the game, what a shitty mess
>>340354116
why design platforms when you can just put a grappling hook there
>>340354116
Ahahaha oh wow
What's the point of a grappling hook if you can't use it at your own leisure?
>>340354471
My guess is that because it's open world garbage they had to have some kind of fast travel system.
>>340354471
The idiots had to put it in just to let a parkour character cross large sections of the city. Because an actual open world city isn't truly conducive to parkour. So it's a cheat just to get across sections that the mechanics you actually want out of the game won't let you get across.
Once I heard about this damned grappling hook I knew they had fucked up this open world shit. Fucking ruined it by going with a fad.
>>340354471
Because literally every game has grappling hooks this year for some fucking reason. Someone somewhere must've focus group tested that shit and found people like it. It's overuse is a little concerning now.
>>340349460
>Take a game with simple design
>Do anything and everything possible to ruin the original appeal.
I wonder how long it will take for this to change from a gameplay discussion to a story one?
>>340348954
Stop talking like you're 12
>>340355153
no one really played it so it more then likely wont
>>340349460
again, how is that giving them bad reviews since journos and normies have bad taste?
>>340348954
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>>340355368
becuase the only people that cared for this game are fans of the original
>>340355070
>Mirror's Edge is one of the games where lineal, heavily scripted corridor sequences actually worked
>They turned it into open world shit
It's like the world went mad
>>340348954
Or, ME fans fucking hate it. Which we know to be true.
>>340348954
So, what is this? Like, 3 layers of irony?
I dunno, here's that (you).
>EA
>so how do we fuck this sequel up?
the memes never lie. I bet the root cause is the stupid fucking focus groups wanting to add unnecessary shit
>>340348787
It's a regular occurrence from EA, on occasion they will make a great IP and shit all over it in one of the sequels. It was just time for Mirror's Edge
I'm sure the game is still going to sell enough to turn a profit for EA.
First one was okay at beat and this sequel appears to do nothing new and maybe even less?
Are people really shocked by this score?
>>340355697
I dont think most people even know this game exists.
>>340355784
the first one has unique and genuily good gameplay
it had flaws but it was overall enjoyable and the speed running aspect gave it replayability
the new one took out any and everything people liked about it
no one is suprised
just sad
The first game was unique, if a bit short and flawed. I don't know anything about the second, but this isn't exactly surprising; EA is capable of fucking up a good thing.
For the PC players out there, does anyone know if this is just another stupid Origin exclusive turd, or does it use something like Denuvo on top of it? For all their faults EA usually doesn't add the shittiest copy protection known to man atop their proprietary Origin titles, so if they did that here then there's zero chance i'll be buying it. Otherwise, I'll pirate it see if its another "gonna beat it in a couple hours, kinda forgettable" experience or not and then decide...
>>340348365
EA STRIKES AGAIN
>>340348365
>game panders to non-fan whiners
>turns out poorly
Why are we even making threads about this? Should we make a thread every time the sun rises? Shit.
>EA
>making good games
BEFORE YOU GO GO
>>340350734
The open world meme is killing vidya
>>340348365
good, let it flop, they wanted Anita in on the decisions, they wanted Anita's base, they got it.
Look how well its selling and look at the low score.
THAT'S WHO YOU MADE THE GAME FOR!
Oh and if the game turned out truly shitty... I remember way back when there was some sort of issue about Anita or some similar SJW disciple being given a job working on this title.
Did that actually pan out, and is it part of the reason the game turned out shitty? From the criticisms I see, it ignored the gameplay that made the first unique etc... which seems like something one of those ilk would do, favoring instead drumming up certain "story" elements.
>>340348954
(((You)))
I don't understand.
How do you fuck up such a simple concept? How do you make the sequel worse in literally everything?
>>340349337
>it's not good by any means
>solid 7
>>340356672
most games that come out nowadays suck. It's truly a rare event that I play a refreshing game that is really good. I think the last one I played was a telltale game.
>>340348365
>>340356456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dybCYC0C7oM
>>340356951
>most western* games that come out nowadays suck
>>340356951
last one i played was ori and the blind forest. it actually made me sad that the game wasn't longer
>>340348365
Those negative comments are hilarious
>MEC is so dull, boring and repetitive! The combat and story are so shit!
>play ME instead!
The irony certainly isn't lost on me.
Here is the real difference.
Mirror's Edge theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERyxFfMqDk
Catalyst theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwonWE_fGVc
>>340356951
>telltale
>game
Pick one
>>340350734
FUCk you.
>>340356691
They were dumb enough to listen to all the idiots saying "Wouldn't it be cool if ______ was open-world?" without actually stopping to think about whether or not it would actually be cool.
Really, I think the only way to make an open-world Mirror's Edge cool would be if instead of controlling Faith, you controlled Spider-Man.
>>340357643
telltale interactive story. my bad.
>>340357630
...
I don't dislike that song on its own, but goddamn it sounds like it should have been in Hotline Miami or something.
This is a terrible fit for an open world.
>>340353259
yahtzee also shit one one of the most aesthetically excellent games of all time, kane and lynch 2 dog days, for it's aesthetics, because he's an incredibly stupid man.
>>340357630
of all the things to pick on, this is what you choose? both songs are really great, and they made the right choice making this song the successor to still alive.
of course they'd never beat still alive, but this is probably the best that can be done. what do you want? a remix of still alive?
>>340348954
Funny he says this, because stuff like Mirror's Edge has the ideal female protagonist: incidentally female.
>>340358129
>they made the right choice making this song the successor
>>340358165
Her boobs are too small, her ass is also too small, and her face is not as pretty as it could be, imo.
Goddamnit EA
>>340358242
>not liking chvrches
as i said, they made the right choice
>>340358246
she's asian, what did you expect?
>>340356951
Literally moved to Japanese games for the first time ever (non-mainstream ones) and I haven't been disappointed since.
Best thing is that there's an enormous back log to look back to as well as more coming in the future.
>>340357630
>Mirror's Edge theme song.
You should have posted this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqFLp0jI8lY
This, Shard and Kate are the tracks that define Mirrro's Edge
>>340357630
>talking shit about chvrches
I don't even care about all the retards complaining about dumb shit because the game is excellent and I'm enjoying the fuck out of it, but this is stepping over the line.
>>340358324
>they made the right choice
>>340357630
It's really not that bad, you probably chose the most non-hateable thing to hate about the game
>>340358334
Asians obviously can look good see Tifa Lockheart from The Spirits Within. Now that's an ideal woman.
>FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
>FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
>FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
>FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
FUCK ME IN THE BUTT
>>340358417
>the game is excellent and I'm enjoying the fuck out of it
>>340358417
>the game is excellent
what the fuck
>>340358417
It doesn't fit the game
>>340358129
>>340358324
>>340358445
why do you even post here you dumb niggerfaggots
>>340358541
This should say Fuck my Lopsided Ass.
>>340358541
I don't get it.
>>340358324
For one, Chvrches is a retard for using a v instead of a u in its name. It's spelled Churches you faggot. How do you even pronounce Chvrches. Fucking hell.
>>340358734
google mattress girl rape. The new design in mirrors edge looks like her.
>>340358734
NuFaith, much like girl pictured, is a plain asian woman that likes to pretend to be raped.
>>340358549
>>340358597
>meme-hate meaning anything
>>340358609
That's subjective. I think it does, you might not. Point is chvrches is still a great band.
Do you actually get anything for the collectibles?
>>340351491
meanwhile here i am taking 6 hours to get through that part of the level
>>340358638
This explains a lot.
Anita probably even recommended her.
>>340358935
>meme-hate
it's pure objective hate
see >>340349460 >>340351491 >>340352379 >>340352812 >>340354116 >>340355471
the game is just bad
>>340358935
>meme-hate
Shouldn't you be on Reddit upvoting some epikXD post?
>>340359059
The satisfaction of collecting them.
>>340348954
poe's law in effect
expect to see this on twitter/gamerghazi
>>340358638
Whores.s
Well, at least it will surely be a commercial success, after taking all that Anita sarkeesian feedback to reach the huge feminist woman gamer demographic.
>>340358834
To be fair they use a V instead of a U for the sake of stylizing, and also to make it easier to differentiate between their band and actual churches
>Give us a proper Starfox sequel Nintendo! pleasepleasedoit it would be literally perfect
>Give us a proper Mirrors Edge sequel EA! pleasepleasedoit it would be literally perfect
What's next
>>340358417
>>340358935
>I like feminist cunts
Since when did nu-males start browsing /v/?
Blunder of the Eon?
I loved the original, this sucks.
This game will forever be Anita's legacy.
>>340359772
literally no one said they wanted a mirrors edge sequel
everyone knew it would be shit when they realized EA had it
>>340358638
This is why you should never have idols.
They will always betray your expectations.
Why the fuck are people so obsessed with "open world"? You can't put too much blame on AAA devs because they only do this shit because it's popular. We see it with so many games where they decide to make the shift to open world and most end up being shit.
>>340356951
Last game I actually enjoyed was BallisticNG. I really love how it mimics PS1 graphics despite it being released just a couple weeks ago.
>>340349460
>>Added hud
Can be turned off
>focus on combat which in turn made the combat worse
Only in the narrative to keep things varied and there are some side-quests specifically for combat if you like it, but there are plenty of other modes where speed-running is the focus (Dash Mode for eg)
>>grappling hook
It's contextual and also helps in connecting levels/zones. Literally nothing wrong with it.
>>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
You unlock everything relevant within the first two hours. It's not an issue.
>>overdesigned aesthetic
Absolutely subjective.
>>open world
If you want stages, feel free to just play the Dash modes.
I honestly can't understand the hate the game is receiving, but I'm hoping the normies buy it just so we get at least one more in the future.
>>340360275
>not being accustomed to betrayal
>>340360280
Filling a bland map with 1837281937 collectables is easier than proper level design.
>>340348365
>Remake of a game that dont need remake
>moveset behind of exp Wall
>
>>340360351
>Can be turned off
not all hud can be turned off
>Only in the narrative
its still far more focused then the first game and its still far worse then the first game. there is no way you can defend the EPIC CINEMATIC TAKEDOWNS
>It's contextual and also helps in connecting levels/zones. Literally nothing wrong with it.
they could easily have just used levels instead of pointlessly adding an open world mode
>You unlock everything relevant within the first two hours. It's not an issue.
>two hours isnt a long time
>its better then just starting with the ability to run around
>If you want stages, feel free to just play the Dash modes.
I want the game to be designed around the parkour not designed to be a huge world where you have to grapple from place to place to play it
>>340348365
Wait this game is out? When the fuck did that happen? I don't think I've seen a single advertisement for it since the announcement at least year's E3
>>340360351
>YES EA! FUCK ME! FUCK ME HARDER!
Good goy.
>>340360429
And yet stuff like Banjo looks fun as fuck with shitloads of collectibles. I know the world isn't as bland but the problem is that people just and mush too many genres together.
>Dude, let's do an open world first person platformer with some puzzles and RPG elements and collectibles
You end up trying to be too many things while not being strong in any 1 thing
>>340360351
>People are defending this shit
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I wonder how the guys at Ubisoft feel when other companies are immediately criticized for picking up their shitty open world formula.
>>340354116
Holy shit, is this CoD?
>>340360856
>People are having differing opinions
torrent when
>>340361009
its fine to have different opinions but its another to have a different opinion and go WHY DO PEOPLE HATE THIS GAME SO MUCH
WHY?WHY DO THEY PUT SKILL TREES IN EVERY GAME.I JUST WANT TO DO THOSE SICK PARKOUR JUMPS
I played it for a bit when I got home. I was having fun and knew it wasn't going to capture the sheer amazing feeling the original did. Mirrors Edge came out of no where and was a simply amazing cult classic. This new one simply won't live up to it, but I welcome more entries to the series since nobody seems to want to make parkour games.
It's nothing great, but it's not like we were getting anything else like it.
>>340361093
Yea I get that. But /v/ has the exact approach on the other side, by hating a game and saying WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS GAME SO MUCH
>>340358246
Boobs are meant to be small.
>>340358417
God you waifufags are the worst. You don't like ehr music, you just find her attractive. Your the equivalent of a 90s tween girl who loved Nsync.
>>340361362
only one person in this thread did that
you are the one being a douche here
the game changes pretty much everything people liked about the first one
GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET
>>340360701
>not all hud can be turned off
There's literally an option in the menu that reads 'off'
>its still far more focused then the first game and its still far worse then the first game
When you have close to triple the content of the first game, obviously there's more combat scenarios. Game is hardly focused on it.
>they could easily have just used levels instead of pointlessly adding an open world mode
Open world isn't pointless, and there are levels in the game - they're called Dashes.
>I want the game to be designed around the parkour not designed to be a huge world where you have to grapple from place to place to play it
I don't know what this means. The game is about running, and the hook is contextual - you can't use it everywhere.
>>340351605
Get ready for either him or Liam running damage control.
The game is fun. I am really enjoying it.
Besides the user review score was at 1.5 earlier today with about 2 positive reviews and 84 negative reviews that were all the same.
>Muh hud
Turn it of...
How's he going to handle it /v/?
>>340352812
>>worst open world design in the history of ever
c'mon anon, the division was not that long ago.
Melee is atrocious, reminds me of that scene with the "cook"
I'm so fyucking sick of force RPG elements for no reason, and this game is CROSSING THE FUCKING LINE.
YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK A FUCKING COMBAT ROLL
A
FUCKING
COMBAT
ROLL
A FUCKING MASTER FREERUNNER DOESN'T INITIALLY KNOW HOW TO DO ONE OF THE MOST BASIC MOVEMENTS OF HER TRADE. EVEN AFTER SHE COULD DO IT BEFORE
HOLY SHIT I FUCKING HATE VIDEOGAMES
>>340357630
>Posting Still alive
>Not the best song in the history of gaming which is from the same game and actually shows how superior first game was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqFLp0jI8lY
>>340361708
what does Woolie have to do with Catalyst?
Wasn't there a flash game that did this better?
About 8-10 years ago?
>>340361547
>stamina bar is still in the game
>no excuse for why the game has worse comabt and more of it
>no excuse for why open world is in the game at all
the fact that they even had to use a grapple hook shows they didnt focus on parkour at all
especially since the game has to be balanced to not have any parkour skills at all
the whole thing was massivly brought down by open world and the leveling system and it shows greatly
>>340361641
>Turn off hud
First thing I did. I'm also enjoying it anon. I want to support Faith Connor's game!
>>340361769
sup /v/
wew lad
>>340361821
lets also not forget that there is a fucking stamina bar in a game about running
>>340360976
Except the cod hook could pull iraqis out of high-powered exosuits and you could pick a ledge later on
>>340361936
F*** up an awesome concept should be a meme now.
>>340349460
I don't see why everyone complains about open world. The open world meme sucks, but surely that's what you'd want from a parkour game?
>>340362123
not when they dont know how to keep your movement fluid and require you to use a grappling hook
>>340354116
>>340355049
>>340360976
>Love grappling hooks with actual swing physics to it
>Hear ME sequel is going to have one
>Think about how cool it would be if ME had grappling hook mechanics like Bionic Commando 2009, but with a range nerf so that parkour is still the main and best way to travel.
>See footage
>It's more fucking zip line shit
Why doesn't anyone want to make actual fucking swing physics?
>>340357630
>still alive
>not Introduction by Solar Fields
Kill yourself.
>>340361708
He already said in a podcast that he likes it. I don't remember if he said anything specifically though.
>>340361791
My fuckin nigga. I would literally start up the game just to sit in the menu and listen to that.
>DICE fucks up a third sequel in a row (BF4, battlefront, MEc)
However they're untouchable in EA and you dumbasses aren't blaming them for doing the same retarded art and unlocks they always do
>>340362209
You can swing and steer it yourself over large gaps and you can pull yourself up. Pulling yourself up isnt the only use of it.
>>340361821
>>stamina bar is still in the game
what?
>no excuse for why the game has worse comabt and more of it
Why the fuck would they focus on making the combat really good in a running game? Are you fucking retarded?
>>no excuse for why open world is in the game at all
Except there is an excuse - it's what they wanted.
>the fact that they even had to use a grapple hook shows they didnt focus on parkour at all
So because you can hook yourself across some gaps at some points of the game, this means they didn't focus at all on the running.
The logic of retards truly is fascinating.
>>340362209
Uncharted 4 has that, it's kind of underutilised in meaningful terms though
The rope even wraps around things
>>340362209
Because one guy coded the physics for both SM2 and BC09 and he's not sharing his talents with most dev studios.
>>340362123
Open world means shit these days. Developers only make it open world to pad their garbage that is low on content.
>>340362350
Your logic is indeed fascinating, the anon was complaining how there's MORE combat and it's worse, to which you replied "it's a running game". Get the fuck out.
>>340362531
>I've run out of arguements so I will now proceed to just post pictures and insults
figures
>>340362123
People forget Mirror's Edge wasn't just about jumping around buildings. Each level was contextualized like that, yes, but at its core Mirror's Edge was a racing game. You were given a course with an obvious route, plus many less obvious shorter routes and small optimizations that could be made. Though the story never used any environment more than once, shit like time trials (especially the DLC) really showed that the most fun could be found by fully understanding a course and working out how best to traverse it with expertise.
An open world really does not do anything to help this sort of game.
>>340362323
I'm not sure what you're saying because nobody likes DICE either.
>>340362350
>The logic of retards truly is fascinating.
Reading your posts I'd have to agree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNihWHV6PjM#t=14m25s
really?
jesus christ..
>>340362648
Just jumping in here, but the ONLY counter-argument I have against that is that being about free-running, it does make sense for the game to have the attitude of no walls or barriers being able to hold you, which a linear game obviously can't do. But, open worlds fuck everything up, so I'm not going to argue that it was ever a good idea, just that it could thematically work. Also EA, so it was doomed forever.
>>340362350
the bar on the bottom left
the devs themselves stated they were focusing on combat to make it better and have more of it in the game
the open world is completely pointless
you wouldnt need a grappling hook if it wasnt open world
>>340361987
i cant believe it no fucking way
>>340362648
I'll post it again - Dash Mode. It's literally levels.
>They actually decided to take Mirrors Edge into the open world
I still can't really believe this happened
>>340362780
Watching DSP play games may be the single most frustrating thing I have ever experienced
I like the third person cinematic takedowns in the game about first person freerunning.
>>340362960
Please tell me you're joking about those actually being in the game
The beta was a godsend. I foolishly digitally preordered this on psn. The beta was shit, and because of the delay Sony offered refunds.
So glad I could avoid this. Maybe when it's 10bux Ill mess around with it a bit.
>>340362941
can you play the whole game in dash mode?
or are you forced into the half assed open world?
>>340362780
>19:16
Is there an ingame explanation for this? What mechanics lead to that happening?
>>340362941
I haven't played Catalyst yet so I can't really give a good argument here. But I don't expect good things. The original game's linear courses lent themselves very well to time trials. An open world almost by definition will have less focused level design, and I expect the dashes in Catalyst to fall short of those in the original. But maybe I'm wrong and DICE will blow me away. We'll see.
>>340362832
>the devs themselves stated they were focusing on combat to make it better and have more of it in the game
They said they were focusing on improving the combat And obviously there's gonna be more of it - it's a 10 hour fucking game.
>the open world is completely pointless
For you
>you wouldnt need a grappling hook if it wasnt open world
I don't get how this is a criticism.
>>340363056
having to stop every 5 seconds for EPIC TAKEDOWNS is a feature that makes the game better
>>340362443
Is that the reason BC09 had amazing swinging?
The same dude behind SM2's webs and Energy Hook did the swinging for BC?
>>340363259
>They said they were focusing on improving the combat And obviously there's gonna be more of it - it's a 10 hour fucking game.
you still havent explained to me why this is okay in a game where the combat is significantly worse then the first one
>>340363259
Just curious. How much do you get per retarded post?
>>340363253
I've spent over 200 hours speed running ME and spent 15 hours in the MEC beta. Dash mode alone is what makes MEC on par with ME. When you play it you'll understand.
>>340361753
>"Who are you?"
>"I'm the Mirror's Edge: Catalyst."
why did the devs insist on wedging in so much combat? ME is about running. what made the devs think we wanted to awkwardly shuffle around with first person melee combat? the game just feels so misguided
>>340363228
Kicking a guard into another guard automatically knocks both of them out.
>>340361769
Old /v/ is back.
>>340349462
I fucking love skeleton chair meme. It's so epic.
>>340363438
Well that's good to hear at least.
>>340363271
What are you even talking about. The 3rd person takedown happens only on the last guy in the area and if you get the right amount of light attacks off. You'd never get a 3rd person takedown while running, so it wont ever stop you running.
>>340363259
>>340362780
you see this video?
Explain to me why its okay to force the combat when it was a feature in the first game that you could chose to run or fight
there were only two parts in the game in which you couldnt do that and one was a boss
tell me why its okay to force the combat
>>340362123
Mirrors Edge was entirely built around tight level design, where you were running through a linear level while trying to work out how to progress. That's where the fun of the game was.
Once you start forcing an open world into things, you lose the ability to create a well designed, linear level. Sure the idea of running around an entire city sounds great, but the design of the world suffers. You can't design a proper path for the player to run down, since they'll be going down that path in every possible direction at some point.
>>340363373
>where the combat is significantly worse then the first one
I don't need to explain a subjective opinion I disagree with.
Just because you think the combats shit doesn't mean anything, doubly so because the combat is literally beside the point of the game.
>>340363056
Bad news, friend.
>>340362813
Well that's kind of the thing... freerunning isn't actually all that free. Especially when we're comparing human physical ability to the sheer dimensions of modern urban architecture. There are some gaps you'll never be able to cross, some walls you'll never be able to scale, etc.
I've been expressing this sentiment a lot in recent threads, but a fun open world game basically CANNOT have much in the way of environmental obstacles, otherwise playing becomes a chore. And ME1's entire game design centered around such obstacles. I mean, I fucking ADORE the Atrium climb, but I wouldn't want to do something that technical every time I wanted to get up to a rooftop.
Maybe there is some theoretical open world parkour game that *can* work, but you'd have to make a hell of a lot of changes from the real-world sport to make it fun.
>>340363613
All the main missions take place in their own areas similar to the first game. Only the dashes and side missions are out in the open world. I don't really see the big issue some of you have.
>>340363651
not according to this
>>340362780
DSP is forced into a fight for no reason what so ever
as much as i hate dsp there is no excuse for that
>>340363613
it honestly doesnt feel alive like the cfirst... like the city felt real... this one... jesus
>>340363458
It stops you from rushing through the area. It's the same reason why it's open world. To pad playing time.
>>340362209
You're gonna love me, Anon. Check out the Assassin class in Law Breakers.
>>340362209
>image
holy fuck
>>340363587
>tell me why its okay to force the combat
The same reason there were numerous forced combat sequences in ME - to spice things up.
>>340363932
The electro whip thing is neat. Too bad about the rest of the game.
>>340358335
Most* japanese games are terrible, pandering weebshit* obviously there are some good ones, but 95% suck fucking ass
>>340364015
>numerous
you mean two
every other area allowed you to run away as an option
>>340351605
>Complete silence about the game from him
>>340363764
Of course you don't. You make your living defending this pile of shit.
>>340352191
Oh so just cause 3
>>340357630
>chvrches
definitely not buying it now
>>340364072
Two is still more than none.
>>340364015
You are forced to fight about as many times as you were in the first game.
>>340362780
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXotAB7-hw0#t=2m15s
>>340361708
who?
>>340364201
your logic isnt holding up at all
again both of those segments made sense for you to stand and fight
the segment in the video had you stand and fight because fuck it why not
they literally clothes the door and force you to fight
the door isnt locked
you just cant go through it and serves no actual story purpose
>>340360351
>It's contextual
That's not a good thing.
>>340364334
>again both of those segments made sense for you to stand and fight
>Fighting against numerous armed guards with body armour makes sense
If you say so. I for one don't care nearly as much as you, because there's much more running in the game than combat.
>>340364564
and the running and combat were better in the first game
and it didnt force you to fight anywhere near as much as ME2
and it didnt have cinematic cutscenes in every fight
and it had much better level design
>>340364297
I haven't seen a video of this guy since his dark souls 1 videos. I see he is still just as bad as he was back then.
>>340362780
>Red line that shows you exactly what to do
What the hell?
>>340364736
Can be turned off after the intro mission. You can go through the entire game without it, but it is pretty useful at times.
>>340348365
Why can't EA stop shitting the bed with sequels?
>>340364640
>and the running and combat were better in the first game
False. Running is a carbon copy, and I don't care about the combat.
>and it had much better level design
Also false. City of Glass is very well designed, especially for the Dash modes.
The rest of your complaints are irrelevant.
>>340364872
>pretty useful at times
In other words the level designers never learned how to walk.
>>340365085
>all of your complaints are irrelevant
>this game is a perfect 10/10 and no one has any reason to dislike it
>>340364297
>linking directly to DSP
No. Bad Anon.
>>340365095
Mostly because I am blind and cant see the pipe on the wall.
>>340365085
>says a thing is false because he doesn't care about it
You can't make this shit up.
>>340365085
Shill-kun pls.
>>340348954
>>340365140
>>340365272
>>340365291
>Say subjective bullshit
>get worked up when subjective bullshit is said back
Keep at it guys, changing the world here.
>>340365085
>The rest of your complaints are irrelevant.
Ah, so they pay you by post count rather than word count. Interesting.
I'm just glad that this will make Windows 10, Denuvo and EA all look bad at the same time.
>>340365446
>subjective bullshit
>THE GAME IS ABOUT RUNNING THERE SHOULDNT BE A FOCUS ON COMBAT
>THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMBAT IS IRRELEVANT BECUASE IM RIGHT AND ITS PERFECT
If I didn't know any better I'd say you were getting paid to do this
>>340365581
It doesn't.
>>340365446
I know this is hard for you to understand but it's objectively shit shill-kun.
>denuvo
Will flop just like everything else with this.
>>340365613
Wrong. They all failed to make the game a success even tho they did their part to make it what it is. They all look like shit.
why aren't you guys on twitter or fb posting your epic maymays about ME2? leave the thread for the people who actually played the game.
I was pretty worried about the combat before I played the game. It's not as bad as people are making it out to be.
There's two ways you can go about combat. You can slow down and brute your way through, but everything is set up to be played at high speed.
At high speed combat almost becomes an obstacle/puzzle, once you see it coming, and figure out the proper motion, you can take them at high speed and me on your merry way.
>>340348365
really loving the game so far only disappointment is i cant climb the giant sky scrappers in the background
everyone shitting on it makes me sad
>>340365846
mass effect was years ago
>>340365593
>>THE GAME IS ABOUT RUNNING THERE SHOULDNT BE A FOCUS ON COMBAT
The first game had some focus on combat. MEC does too. There;s a lot of content in MEC that is combat free. If you're triggered by story mode having combat, then don't play it.
>>340365631
It's objectively not :^)
>>340365901
so what you are saying is that there is no way to just not fight
>>340350734
with open world you cant have tight level design like in the first game, thusly you dont get as much fun from time trials like from the first game. instead the time trials in the sequel are ala gta foot races, you dont get tight levels to perform in and thus theres nowhere to really improve time but with glitching.
the world just feels so damn sparse because of it, rather than super tight and well made.
checkbox objective ubisoft style open worlds are killing video games harder than the call of duty clone meme or the brown and bloom meme
>>340366017
It still amuses me that you are so butthurt that people dont like your perfect little game
people asked for changes and those changes were given out
they were obviously met with negative opinion and yet you get so fucking defensive when no one wants any part of it
>>340348365
i dont get it. it was self evident that the game was going to be made objectively worse than the first, even from the outside without playing it. but they continued to fuck it up with modern memes like open world, arbitrary unlocks and all that shit
Anyone else find the Bad Company recordings? Pretty fun Easter egg.
>>340366017
>shilling a shitty game this hard
>>340363932
>Law Breakers
Oh my
>>340366017
Yes, it is shill-kun. Even normies and journos dislike it.
>>340366134
It still amuses me that you're so butthurt that people like MEC
people asked for changes and those changes were given out
they were obviously met with positive opinion by some and yet you get so fucking aggressive when some people really enjoy it.
>>340366027
In 99% of main story line situations, you can just not fight.
>>340355492
What does this have to do with Mass Effect?
>>340366390
That's not what i've seen from the released videos
>>340363703
That's probably the reason the freerunning worked so great in the first couple of Assassin's Creeds then went to shit in the later games once the buildings all got bigger and the streets wider.
It was perfect to get around the Middle East and Renaissance Italy with it's two story buildings and flat rooftops but once they got to the British colonies it was just a hassle where it was faster just running around the streets on the ground.
There's a reason they had to introduce a grappling hook in AC Syndicate.
>>340365812
>Game is shit
>It must be because I can't pirate it
You're one of those people who say Catwoman was bad because it had a woman in it, aren't you?
>>340366435
How the fuck do you know whether or not you could skip those combat sequences in the videos you watch?
>>340358165
>Mirror's Edge has the ideal female protagonist: incidentally female.
This is fucking boring tho
>>340366158
whoa, fuck that webm
>>340366514
becuase the guy runs up to the fucking door and cant get through it till everyone around him is dead
>>340366364
>shill-kun is so asspained that he's now doing this
kek
>>340366558
You mean like in ME?
>>340366158
>the stumble at the end
My heart stopped
>>340348365
>7 points less than the original game
HAHAHAHA WHAT A FAILURE
>>340366558
Link to vid?
>>340366364
you really cant handle the fact that people dont like MEC can you
and i know you will go HUR YOU CANT HANDLE THAT PEOPLE LIKE IT
I've never once said that people shouldnt like the game
I just pointed out the flaws and changes to the game and why people dont like it
all you have done is get defensive and call it irrelevant
you are the one here pretending the game is completely devoid of problems and is super perfect
on top of that your logic doesnt really hold up
you state that you dont have to open world, but when people ask if you can "dash mode" the story there is no response
you state that the combat isnt really there but then proceed to state that there is much much more of it then in the first game
all you have to do is admit the game isnt the most perfect game in the world and we can be on our marry way
but you wont since you are probably being paid not to
>>340358638
I'd still fuck them both
>>340366910
>getting this upset that someone likes something you don't.
Literally all you have to do is not care that I think it's an excellent ME game.
>>340367298
no
becuase its not
its a horribly flawed game
I'm happy to finally see people openly hating open world shit in vidya here on /v/. Used to be you couldn't mention the words "linear" or "hub-based" without a hundred posts calling you out for why open world is a better option.
>>340367298
And your opinion is bad. What's to discuss?
>>340349460
>>340349460
>grappling hook
>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
>overdesigned aesthetic
>open world
Those don't sound that bad.
>>340367418
Linear games arent good
straight lines are boring
open world isnt the answer though
>>340367387
no
It's an excellent game
>>340367523
Your opinion is shit too. There's nothing to discuss.
>>340367768
>it's an excellent game
It's objectively bad.
>>340366316
>Even normies and journos dislike it.
Just like they did with the first game.
>>340367768
>>It's an excellent game
Irrelevant
the game sucks
>>340367829
It's objectively good.
>>340349460
>>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
>>340367856
The game is fine.
You're the one that sucks.dick
>>340368127
irrelevant
the game sucks
>>340367851
Not really, but even if it were true now the fans hate it as well. It's hard being a shill these days.
>>340368225
This post is literally irrelevant.
It's a great sequel.
>>340367593
There is nothing wrong with linear games in certain genres. Mirrors Edge was an example of a good linear game
>>340368321
irrelevant
the game sucks
>>340366746
ME = combat takes 2 minutes even if its forced
ME2= combat takes 10 minutes to chip away guys with guns and sonic blast cannons
shits annoying
>>340360528
sometimes making a game too 'video gamey' was a mistake
>>340368319
>Not really,
It has practically the same metascore as the new game and didn't meet its sales target until they started giving it away in Humble Bundles.
>>340368575
Millennials only know padded open world meme shit. They have no clue about good linear games.
>>340349858
>It's insane how they can fuck up a game about parkour the 1st games free running obstacle courses are still some of the most fun I've had.
And yet the first game's review scores are the same as this one.
>>340369114
Reviews have never ment much around here outside of memes
there are plenty of terrible games that get good scores and vice versa
>>340368857
>same metascore
It's lower and if you bothered reading them you'd see that pretty much everyone is disappointed and surprised how the game sucks. Plus there is the atrocious user score.
>until they started giving it away
And everyone loved it.
>>340348365
So are the GAMERS ARE SEXIST headlines out yet ?
>>340369220
Godhand vs Imagine Babies, man.
>>340352776
Do you have the statistics or thread that graph is from?
>>340369114
>>340369114
>Mirror's Edge, Reviews
Video game
79%Metacritic
7.3/10IGN.com
google is your friend
ME was better. 2 is a step back and all the complaints are valid.
this isn't what
ME fans wanted.
>>340369493
>ign
A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Combat is somehow even worse, but the parkour is still great and it's fun to just dick around the city. Only necessary three parkour abilities are locked via upgrades (rolling, 180 turn, tucking your feet on jumps) and I got them all in the first hour anyway.
Overall, it falls in the "Fuck you, I like it" category. I can understand why people are mad, but I'm personally having fun with it.
>>340369634
>implying ME:C has any problems
LITERALLY all they had to do was fucking hire a good writer, remove the shooting and make the game longer, what the FUCK is wrong with dice
>>340349460
>>leveling system to gain the ability to free run instead of just having it
>>340368825
>combat takes 10 minutes
Enemies have such low hp that even casuals can deal with them in 2 mins.
How fucking bad are you?
>>340369493
>2 is a step back and all the complaints are valid.
Except I'm an ME fan and MEC is a very good sequel.
>>340369625
you mean the same place that gave ME2 a 6 that everyone has been talking about for the past 3 days?
you stupid
Why are people blaming EA? This shit is all on the dicecucks
>>340369845
yeah
IGN is a bunch of retards
they give out 9's when they think a game is only decent and 10/10 when its filled with flaws
its a terrible website that doesnt make any fucking sense
>>340369832
>Except I'm an EA fan and MEC is a very good sequel.
Your taste is bad and you are a bad person.
>>340369832
You're a shill, there is a difference.
>>340360976
Holy fuck is that really ME 2? It's way worse than I thought. Why is it so colored? I fucking love the aesthetics of the first game but this looks nothing like that.
>>340369832
Why is it not surprising that you cant let anyone have their own opinion on the game
>>340369832
when you HAVE to fight 3 waves of bad guys it takes 10 minutes. did you even play the game?
>>340369832
>MEC is a very good sequel
welI don't agree. glad you liked it but I just didn't feel it built upon the strengths of the first one. adding more mechanics bogged it down for me. and most people.
>>340369978
That's cod, he's replying to ME
>>340369978
>Why is it so colored
lol you mean colorful.
>>340369728
common sense isn't one of dice's strong suit
>>340370065
Because I don't let random nobodies speak on my behalf.
>>340370371
no one is speaking on your behalf
>>340370371
did you buy the game? then your work is done.
>Game with a female main character
>Can't dress her up in cute outfits
WHAT THE FUCK??
WHAT'S THE POINT??
>>340355421
>still liking cia joke.
>>340370108
>when you HAVE to fight 3 waves of bad guys it takes 10 minutes. did you even play the game?
Yeah I've played the game. No combat sequence thus far has taken up more than 5 mins of my time. Are you sure you aren't just fucking terrible?
>I just didn't feel it built upon the strengths of the first one
I disagree. I feel like there was nothing the game could build on mechanically, and all that mattered was providing us with good levels. The map is surprisingly large and nuanced, which shows especially well in the Dash mode.
Most people I know that played and speed-ran ME like it, so I guess there's a correlation somewhere.
>>340370423
see
>>340369493
>this isn't what ME fans wanted.
>>340370962
hes speaking an a general sense
this thread shows that he's more right then you are
>>340371039
>a thread on /v/ is a measure of what's right
For you.
>>340371198
maybe you should go back to EA where you belong then
most people here clearly dont share your opinion on this obviously perfect game
>>340370841
>you sure you aren't just fucking terrible?
maybe I am. Still don't like being forced to engage in combat I don't find entertaining or intuitive. People complained about the qte's of the first but that was more intuitive imo.
>nothing the game could build on mechanically
I thought they could have built upon the game by adding more setpieces. A more interactive world and where it feels like its alive. The city is completely barren. Where are the people?
and the architecture felt more like it was built around parkour instead of finding natural parkour spots in a normal world. The office building early on had no real way for employees to actually get to work, unless they all parkour to their jobs.
I could think of a lot more but whatever.
