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Why doesn't Serious Sam have more metal music?
They could easily use a couple of more Undercode songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc166BcAlYg&ab_channel=42SpeeDevil42
Also Serious Sam thread.
>>340303484
Because Serious Sam composer thinks percussion is more fitting for the frantic pace the game has.
You've already made the same thread like a week ago btw. Not that I'm complaining, /v/ isn't serious enough as it is.
>>340303484
Sam 4 and more SS games was confirmed couple weeks ago at NGC.
Talos Principle was born from the team's attempt to create more varied and innovative puzzles than "find key to door", for the quiet moments of SS4.
Thus, we can expect some Talos-lite style maps in SS4 !
>>340304029
>Thus, we can expect some Talos-lite style maps in SS4 !
We can expect Talos 2 instead of SS4.
FTFY
>>340304207
Talos 2 was confirmed also, but Alen Ladavac literally stated that new Serious Sam's in works. Hell, it technically was being made right after #3, but Talos was accidentally born from the project, and it kinda distracted them.
>>340304717
Just like Prey and DNF.
>>340303935
Serious Sam 3 had a lot of great metal and percussion songs, so I'm hoping they kick it up a notch in SS4.
>>340304954
I found SS3 soundtrack to be quite lacking, personally. It was fitting but many songs took a while to get going so you often didn't get to the good parts while playing, and metal soundtrack was almost exclusively in the multiplayer that had been dead on arrival with the exception of Hero in the credits.
>>340305870
Yeah Hero was criminally under-utilised, considering how much they marketed it in the trailers.
>>340303484
What's the type of metal Undercode plays anyway? I dislike metal generally but I'm willing to broaden my horizons.
>>340307310
Serious Metal
>>340307310
Heavy Metal, a bit of power and thrash in some songs.
>>340303484
I think because they use metal only during the most serious battles, 'cause if you'll have it playing all the time you'll be very quickly tired of it. Percussions sound more subtle.
>>340309130
Dunno about that, I listen to Undercode every day and never get tired of them.
On the other hand, if I have to hear that tomb music in BFE one more time I'm going to send a very angry letter to Mr. Mravunac
>>340304954
Damjan said he's gonna use much heavier songs in SS4, in spirit of death and groove metal like 5FDP and so on. And I think he also mentioned using the help of Undercode and two other metal bands again.
>>340309373
Having played all the Serious Sam games back to back recently I can say that Damjan definitely has some talent.
Say what you want about Serious Sam 2, but that game had a wide variety of good songs.
>>340306781
I thought it was appropriate. Whenever you turned around to see a horde coming towards, hearing WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR made you go Serious.
>>340309226
Have you heard the soundtrack Undercode's guitarist made for the game called Seum by the way? The demo came out yesterday. I'd say it's a pretty dope sound and I'd really like to hear that kind of music in SS4.
And what's wrong with that tomb music? I thought it was very fitting, pretty creepy, and the one playing in menu and Sirian chamber was the best in line with Hero.
>>340309573
Couldn't agree more, Damjan always did his job right and made the music which was very fitting with all the game settings.
>>340309605
But they only use the song like two times - once when kamikazes attack and once during the Major Biomechanoid fight. And while those were intense moments, I think it would have been better to use Hero during the second Warship fight or something.
>>340309651
Oh? I didn't know about that, can I find it on Youtube or anything?
The tomb music was fitting, I guess, but the tombs themselves felt so out of place in a Serious Sam game. I felt like I was Playing Doom 3 again.
>>340309895
I think Hero lyricsafter I read them because it's fucking impossible to decipher them otherwisewere very fitting for the credits.
>>340310178
Speaking of credits, I think this would have been pretty appropriate for TFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIwnVXY8ZsE&ab_channel=42SpeeDevil42
i just want something other than fucking egypt.
>>340309573
True, I especially like the music in those game show levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrcwTVyuyD0
>>340309895
>can I find it on Youtube or anything?
I guess no, but I've ripped the songs yesterday and uploaded 'em to Dropboxhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/m9te3i23bmb3pb3/AAAzVhpgeBuhE_0pBWfgpDhda?dl=0
Agree about the tombs tho, these dark places were fucking horrible. They could've used at least a bot more lightning sources, may be some power generator or something. On the other hand, I missed the night levels.
>>340304029
>>340304717
Talos is such a great game.
>>340310557
From Croteam itself:
http://www.croteam.com/serious-sam-4-cancelled/
That’s it, boys and girls, it’s done. We cancelled production of Serious Sam 4. No more Sam 4. Nada. Niente. Instead, we decided to go straight to Serious Sam 5.
Reasons, you might ask?
Well, we were so much under the pressure from our publisher, fans, friends, dentists, lawyers, neighbours and people we occasionally meet in elevator to deliver best Serious Sam game EVER, that we simply realized we couldn’t fill shoes that big and if we want to make a really good game, we need to let it go, and start from a scratch. Too bad, because story that Jonas and Verena wrote was so awesome, it took Sam to two European famous countries where he’s never been before…)
We do have one screenshot from abandoned SS4, but it had to be blurred for security reasons.
Serious Sam 5 will continue where never-released-and-prematurely-ended Serious Sam 4 left off, and it will showcase the power of new and improved Serious Engine 5, which can now render billions of square feet of sand with no noticeable dropout in frames per second.
Here are first three screenshots from the newly-started production of Serious Sam 5. This is the setting we are most comfortable with, we know how to do this properly.
>>340310708
>a bit more
self-fix
>Everyone disliked the name Serious Sam at first
I don't think I'll ever be able to comprehend that. It's literally perfect.
>>340310769
you know this is an april fools prank right?
>>340310986
Well fucking duh. It also confirms it won't be Egypt but two new countries where Sam hasn't been before, one being Italy, however.
>>340310290
I love this song, def my favorite out of their 1st album.
I wish Damjan would remake this old credits theme for some of the next games, as well as Grand Cathedral theme. He already did the Dunes remake, so GC would be the best thing coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6DZxMctaUs
>>340310769
old but i still got a chuckle.
is it asking too much for them to give us more areas like in the second encounter?
>>340304029
I love that instead of releasing a sequel that didn't quite fit, they made their experiments a whole new game.
Why are there so few good devs left?
So I recently played through all the Serious Sam games in preparation for Serious Sam 4 and since I couldn't find a statistic of Sam's kill count, I decided to make one myself.
What do you guys think?
>>340310708
Sweet, thanks anon
>>340311136
No, dear anon, they also confirmed years ago that there won't be Egypt in SS4 at all. I think it's pretty clear they aim to The Second Encounter style with three different countries, especially looking at Talos.
>>340311243
You are a god among men is what I think. I've always wanted to see the total kill count and you actually did it, the madman.
>>340310557
I don't get why people hate on Egypt, I love it. Especially if you crank up the saturation to max,
>>340311243
>1773
How can they possibly beat that?
>>340310986
>>340310769
based Croteam
>>340311243
Oh wow, anon, I tried to make the same kind of thing last year! I can provide you the stats from Legend of the Beast DLC, SS Double D, Advance and Random Encounter as well.
>>340311243
>comparing a whole saga kills to a single game kills
>>340311721
>Advance
Don't tell me you actually played it.
>>340311781
Look at the bottom left, he puts all three on even ground.
>>340311721
I already have the Legend of the Beast ones under TSE, but the others would be nice, I'd love to make a full list but I don't have Advance and I didn't really enjoy the Random Encounter.
>>340311243
Doing Sam's work, anon. Proving who's the top dog of old school shooters.
>>340311835
no, it should say for example doom saga or doom+d2+d3+nu-doom
and the same for duke
>>340311243
saved
>>340311993
But Doom 3 has a different marine, whereas Sam is the same person in all the games.
And I don't think there a way to get the numbers for Doom 4.
However if you count Evilution and Plutonia Doomguy has a surprisingly high kill count, something like 25k.
>tfw serious saturdays on indefinite hiatus
>>340311721
http://steamcommunity.com/id/soulmyr/
Here's my Steam, in case this thread gets archived.
>>340311243
>mfw The Guardian of Time
>>340312206
remember that all wads are canon anon :^)
>>340312764
I really didn't like that one.
At one point I was just so fucking fed up with Kleers I had to pause the game and take a walk.
At least Ugh Zan IV was kinda fun and the music was great.
>>340311835
>Don't tell me you actually played it
Man, I played it just to know what kill count it has. It was painful, but why not?
>>340311853
Unforunately I don't have the Next Encounter stats, though I tried to count it as well but didn't finish.
Serious Sam Advance (normal difficulty): 2523
Serious Sam Double D (XXL, normal difficluty): 1097
Didn't find Random Encounter stats unfortunately.
>>340312956
>getting fed up with kleers
>ever
What are you even doing in this thread?
>>340312206
>surprisingly high kill count
Doom 2 and onwards is essentially Serious Sam before Serious Sam was invented so it's not surprising at all.And it's shit because Doom mechanics don't work well with high enemy count. Slaughter wads are garbage.
>>340312254
But there's a new and imroved group! Don't you like stale /pol/ memes with your Serious Sam? :^)
>>340313084
Hey I never hated kleers in TFE or TSE, but BFE just throws so much of them at you it gets really annoying, especially when in that last level where every single wave has kleers in it.
>>340313009
Thanks, I think I'll look up a playthrough on Youtube if Next Encounter has stats
>>340313009
>Didn't find Random Encounter stats unfortunately.
You can't really get a concrete kill count for a game with random encounters.
>>340313257
>Complaining about too many enemies in a Serious Sam game
Kleer/Khnum wave in SS3, Metropolis kleer wall in TFE and Armageddon in Grand Cathedral are what separates boys from men.
Is there a /v/ serious sam group maybe?
>>340313554
Yes but it's cancer like all /v/ groups.
>>340313398
You're right, but there must some medium value to the kill count.
>>340313185
New and improved group? I don't care about dank memes, I just want to play some sam.
>>340313772
More like """new""" and """improved""".
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/serioussaturdayswithv
>>340313507
The problem with BFE is that the fights aren't all that varied, and you'll have like 3 enemy types at most and the fights drag on for way too long.
Great Pyramid also had some single-enemy-type waves but those are way shorter and better paced. Grand Cathedral is a lot better with the enemy variety, I never thought "If I see another fucking pumpkinhead" or something like that.
I don't care what anyone says, I think Guardian of Time went on for too damn long.
>>340313867
They said in one of the interviews that they really rushed with SS3 release thus had some problems with balancing abd improving the levels. It's clear that the last level of BFE was very quickly put together resulting with a bit overwhelming enemy count and wicked boss battle. If they had 3-4 month more, BFE would've so been much better. Fortunately, they won't ruch to some strict deadlines and holidays anymore with SS4.
>>340314338
I wonder how SS3 even came to be. It has clearly had very troubled development, first levels show that well.
>>340314338
fucking hell, guess I'm too drunk to hit the keyboard
>>340314460
Obviously they tried to finish it at any cost after such a long hiatus, and they also ran out of money taken on credit and raised from SSHD sales. They were in a very difficult situation after SS2. It's a fucking miracle they released SS3. Glad they came back in full force and power nowadays.
>>340314460
I think Croteam were originally going to make a modern military shooter but didn't go through with it, which is why you have the first few levels being what they are.
Maybe they were also going to make a Doom game at some point? I mean the Khnum, Scapjack and cloned soldiers are veeeery familiar after all
reminder
>>340314857
>I mean the Khnum, Scapjack and cloned soldiers are veeeery familiar after all
Not necessarily. Knowing Croteam, it may be just a joke, especially since Serious Sam 2 tried to rip on Doom 3 so hard at some places it felt insecure. This promo image of Serious Engine 3 apes the famous Doom 3 screenshot of Marine and Hell Knight behind him too.
>>340309373
>5fdp
>death
m8. i hope that wasnt what damjan actually said. i hope to god he knows that 5fdp isnt death metal.
thats like saying A7X is death metal. like nigga...
>>340309373
>5FDP
>death metal
What difficulty should I play BFE on if I'm shit at fps
>>340315065
Serious sam is a doom clone
Also, the sky is blue
Anything else underage?
>>340314857
As a matter of fact, they were. Too bad they were fucked over by id and Atari later with both their projects.
>>340311781
You can see he included only TFE kill count in the comparison
>>340315128
"These rocks may shake, but I ain't gonna Quake"
God some of the writing in SS2 was terrible
>>340315348
Start with Normal, BFE is a bit easier than the other games.
>>340304029
I really need to finish Talos, such a fun game, don't know why I stopped playing.
>>340315369
nvm im retarded
>>340314857
If I recall correctly, Croteam actually cooked up a little proto for the next Doom game and showed it to id in hopes of scoring a partnership deal. The deal fell through and the assets were recycled for SS3 development, hence the Canned Cain multiplayer model and the oddly familiar enemy designs.
>>340315183
He didn't said that but he kinda wished to do something in that mood and gave their song as an example. And by the way, isn't 5FDP considered to be groove? Though I personally didn't listen to them too much, always prefered Pantera.
Okay guys, I just skimmed through a playthrough of Serious Sam The Next Encounter on Youtube, and according to the stat screen at the end of each level, Sam's kill count is10873on Hard.
Is this even possible? I mean it's more than any other game on Serious.
>>340310748
it really is.
played it for the first time just now. Didn't expect to get so hooked.
hunting for secrets is also so much fun in this game!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>340314817
>Be a group of bedroom programmers
>Make a football game for Amiga
>Your country is at war and in some deep shit
>Some devs get drafted to the army and come back
>Decide to make a fun technologically advanced FPS after seeing Doom
>Nobody wants to fund no-name Croats, Gathering of Developers and 3DR outright call it too old-timey and rip on harpies
>Put the test version on the internet as a last ditch effort
>It spreads like a wildfire, Old Man Murray happens
>GoD/3DR publish the game
>It's a smash hit
>Make a sequel
>GoD gets bought by Take-Two
>Work with Take-Two for bringing SS to consoles
>2K wants you to consolize the sequel to shit
>What can you do, bills ain't gonna pay themselves
>SS2 is a spectacular failure
>Get footballed by other companies after
>Later on come back from a long hiatus with HD versions of SS published by ex-GoD devs
>They sell just enough to warrant SS3
>SS3 and Talos happens
You could make a movie about those guys.
>>340315391
What happened with Atari?
>>340315715
i dont know what they are but calling them death metal reminds me of all the fucktarded dudebros i had to deal with in highschool on the subject of metal. none of them understood a fucking thing that made metal metal.
they're style would work for SS though. at least instrumentally. would prefer more undercode though.
>>340315774
The fucking kamikaze hologram got me good
>those SS shirts on the website
>price doubles to ship to usa
>doesn't even list dimensions on sizes
ITS NOT LIKE I WANTED TO BUY ONE OR ANYTHING
How many burgers is 48 eur anyways?
>>340315771
Yes, it has a lot of levels (including secret ones), and the amount of weak enemies is also very solid.
dont open this
>>340315968
Way too much if you ask me.
I mean I love Croteam, but 48 yuros is more than any of their games.
I paid a local store to print out the Serious Sam logo on a white t-shirt and it only cost me 10 yuros
>>340315968
>>340315968
you're nigga talk about fried chicken. and i don't know how much fried chicken with niggets it's a serious sam t-shirt.
>>340315887
I can't even imagine how everyone must of reacted when the serious engine was first showed. Even playing the classic games now it's amazing what they were able to do that long ago.
>>340315887
>SS2 is a spectacular failure
I heard that Croteam also had some court proceedings with 2K over the Serious Sam trademark ownership after SS2 failure.
>>340311237
>Why are there so few good devs left?
western plebeians seem to love to bend over for AAA publishers, who do nothing but "play it safe", AKA cash-in as much as possible, with cheapest possible products, that follow modern, proven "trends" , and appeal to lowest tier audiences.
Meanwhile the small group of ~20 guys in Croteam are literally a team, almost like a family, with everyone doing bit of everything, instead of the place being just a factory with faceless leaders. They're working out of passion and using their own ideas and own sources of inspiration, tend to create much more unique and enjoyable games.
Was already the case back in early 90's with ID Software, and Croteam kinda follows the style. Plus, they develop for PCs = less restrictions.
>>340304717
>Sand dunes.
>Egyptian ruins.
>Sandtowns.
>Dilapidated sandtowns.
Serious Sam has the most numbingly boring aesthetic imaginable. Doom 2 had better levels than almost the entire SS series.
>>340315940
Hey, man, I didn't call them death metal neither Damjan. It's ok, chill out.
>>340316519
somebody apparently only played TFE ?`
>>340316578
nyet.
>>340316469
Wonder if those are real porn titles.
>>340316010
I was close to shit my pants during that moment. I bet ya, Croteam could've make a perfect survival horror game.
>>340316519
>Doom 2 had better levels
>Doom 2
Now let's go THAT far, mmkay.
>>340316687
He's baiting, Doom 2 has some terrible levels
>>340316850
Maybe not as cohesive as Doom 1, but I like the more playful style D2 had.
>>340315887
>What happened with Atari?
Croteam developed their military CoD FPS for Atari, it was called Teor, but all of a sudden Atari cut the financing and cancelled the development.
>>340316715
Da, tovarisch.
>>340317145
ne. yet.
Has Croteam confirmed to be at e3?
>>340316983
There's difference between "less cohesive" and "Doom 2 city levels".
>>340316687
And it was great up until the very part you posted. Like four rooms into the first level and they've already just dumped a flat empty space as the arena.
What SS is lacking is some actual interactive environment. It doesn't have (excluding temp powerups here) jump pads or speed boosts or deflecting shields. Most of the arenas don't even have kill pits. The arenas are just so lacking in things to do so it's not wonder most people associate the game as just "lol backpedal and strafing, the game".
Easily the best level of the series was in SS1. Moon Mountain.
>>340316848
I know, i'm sorry. I exacerbated a bit too much that time.
>>340317341
>Doom 2 city levels
>>340317301
Devolver is and it seems SS4 reveal is all but confirmed.
>>340317341
>"Doom 2 city levels".
like.. entire one ?
>>340317429
the thing is the post said a new croteam title.
the wording seems to imply a new IP but that could just me being too autistic and reading too far into it.
>>340317301
Yes, but they won't show SS4 but SS VR game instead.
>>340317358
That's because Croteam themselves never really tried to make a proper arena FPS, they just wanted to do bigger maps and more tense battles than any shooter game before.
>>340318086
and they definitely succeeded at that.
Kids can't even imagine how impressive SS's large, open maps, without disgusting distance fog or weird invisible walls felt. Not to mention when they would suddenly be filled with dozens of enemies rushing and gunning towards you; this was still the time when having even half a dozen polygonal enemies on screen at once (without raping the fps) was amazing!
Plus dem detail-textures always blew my mind.
>>340303484
DUDE METAL LMAO
Serious Sam TFE and TSE are shooter in perfection. I mean that. Fight me. Every single but is perfect and plays off of each other. Enemy design, weapons design, environmental design, sound design, gameplay. Perfect. Also that somtimes more sometimes (way) less subtle humor in every part like the enemy spawn and secrets.
>>340303484
Croteam should take a cue from Painkiller. It had both great ambient and metal soundtrack, as well as impressive sound work. Serious Sam games always lacked that kind of environment sound design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRqkv21H-t0&index=7&list=PL983E5D87090F039E
>>340320234
>serious sam
>good sound design
Yeah no. That's one of the biggest criticisms fans have with the series. Music is good, but everything is pretty straight forward and nothing special.
>>340320525
You shitting on sam's environmental music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPSwycuUQEU
and this was composed by a poor croatian drumming on trash bins.
>>340320732
i think they nailed the sound in BFE. TFE and TSE have shitty weapon sounds.
>>340320823
They definitely improved on their sounds in 3. Now if only their animations were good.
>>340320732
Most of the weapons in BFE were a huge step in the right direction
>>340321004
yeah. those animations for sam and the knuhm running are pretty bad.
Call me a heretic but I think that Xbox version of SS is the best.
+ Some new levels which play more with gravity (sadly some parts from PC are cut)
+ More soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsHN547UmE&index=1&list=PLE226DA142596E0F4
+ Better cuteness (bit more funny but not ss2 level crazy)
+ Better weapon models
+ I like some of the enemies models better
+ Nice sound when killing multiple enemies at once
+ TFE+TSE like it always meant to be
It is just more polished SS. I really wish that HD version would have been based on SS Xbox. Or at least they could port SS Xbox as SS Revolution for PC so everyone could be happy.
>>340321004
That's what they're working on in SS4.
>>340320762
This >>340320732 nigga pretty much summed my opinion. It's not about the music, but more about the sound design. It's a bit stale, especially considering the environment sound when all you hear is birds singing or wind howling all the time. And I'd prefer more metal music like Painkiller did as well.
>>340320732
Every enemy has a unique idle, active and a triggering sound. Sound is directly part of the gameplay, more so than in any other shooter. It warns you about traps, tells you about enemy positions. Enemies shooting their projectiles also have a unique sound for every single type of enemy.
It plays a lot with sound, and you barely notice it because it's so well done.
>>340321191
>+ Some new levels which play more with gravity (sadly some parts from PC are cut)
There wasn't any new levels in SS XBOX apart from a few DM maps and the first level taken from SS TSE PC demo IIRC. As for anything else I pretty much agree, Xbox was a very nice enhancement of the original games, except the humour was a still a bit over the top (tho as you mentioned, not that stupid as in SS2 yet).
>>340320823
This. The weapons sounds in BFE (apart from AR, RL and lasergun) were really good, added the right impact when you shoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1UIYgKD0Mg
>alpha had more level variety than release
>>340322024
>lasergun
i swear to shit if the sniper rifle and the lasergun dont make a reappearance im going to get pissed. bonus good boy points for nade launcher and flamethrower though.
>>340322256
theres a reason they were cut.
>>340322024
I thought the RL was pretty good actually
>>340321191
Console version ruined a lot. The dynamics of the gameplay were touched in ways they shouldn't have been. Like changing enemy hp with difficulty. That's one thing that always stayed the same, because important to the gameplay rythm. 5 rockets for a red biomech is important, because the game is about damage evasion and enemy prioritization. You shoot those 5 rockets and while they are still flying you turn towards the next enemy.
The most important core features of a good SS game are:
>every damage is completely avoidable
>every enemy has unique visuals and sounds; is therefore immediately recognizable
>enemies have a set amount of hp
>no superfluous weapons; every weapon useful in certain situations
>enemy attacks are always unique but easy to memorize
>enemies have to be prioritized to succeed
That just results in a kind of dance most shooters can't compete with. Avoiding damage by sidestepping, jumping, shooting down projectiles all whie scanning the arena for the highest priority enemy to kill and deciding with which weapon to kill it.
>>340322415
I guess you can figure from the Jewel of the Nile DLC that this bullshit won't happen again. On the other hand I hope they'll change the sniper and lasergun models, as they look like utter shit in comparison to classic/HD ones.
>>340322256
Too bad they looked really bad. It's impressive to see how Croteam changed the style and efforts when they decided to scrap the idea of 40+ levels and make it episodic to put more attention to details and save more time. Though I miss those space levels so much.
>>340322845
just the sniper did. the lasergun looked fine.
>>340322415
>theres a reason they were cut.
This
Some of them were nothing but a long-ass corridor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLJDFIwK04M
>>340322941
>implying long ass corridors are bad
>that gamepaly video
i want it.
>>340321393
Who is she?
Adding sprint in 3 was a mistake.
>>340303484
Currently playing through Sam 3 and while it's fun I'm slightly disappointed that it doesn't feel as arcadey as it used to.
There's been a few moments where there have been more then a dozen enemies rushing you but it's all down narrow streets or alleys and doesn't leave you much room to run around.
>>340322916
Lasergun looked way too big and dark to me. And animation was dull. Compare it to the more compact, bright and fast laser from previous games. Though I also wouldn't mind if they chagnge it with something completely new, like plasma-mumbo-jumbo things from SS2 or anything else, may be Ghostbuster/Beamgun scrapped from SS1/2
>>340321004
Fun fact: Sam never pumps the shotgun in the original encounters, he just kinda waves it around
>>340323151
Why? It was really a good and optional addition, letting you outrun the enemies and move faster than light.
>>340303484
Serious Sam 4 is going to be at E3 right? I can't wait any longer.
>>340322506
I played on serious and I have not notice that dmg difference. Maybe sniper rifle did different damage but it also differs from classic to HD (Aludran Reptiloid is dead in 2 shots in HD instead of 3 in Classic).
But I remember the chainsaw being super op on frogs in some places. It seemed to have bigger hitbox.
BTW Sniper Rifle is the only one weapon that deals different damage to different enemies.
Metal music is fucking shit
>>340323312
Wait until you get the double shotgun, first levels were scrapped from a different game.
>>340323151
True it made kamikaze easier to avoid. But I will take that since searching for secrets is less of a chore now and levels got bigger.
>>340323817
You're fucking shit
>>340323448
Fun fact: this fact is a bait, it actually has animation.
I hope SS4 is lots of fun
>>340323710
No, unfortunately. But there's gonna be a small SS game instead from Croteam.
>>340323885
>first levels were scrapped from a different game
Except they weren't.
Only a bunch of assets of the military shooter actually went into SS3.
>>340323312
first half of the game isnt very good, last half gets extremely serious.
>>340324063
We're taking about the original anon, not the HD one
>>340324360
That bottom pic looks familiar.
>>340324670
thats the original. not the HD.
>>340324670
Are you blind? Check my webm, it's classic model.
>>340324063
Fug, meant the HD versions. Oh well
>>340324360
SS3 could have been such a great game if they just stuck to what they were doing before
>>340324763
>>340324847
my bad
>>340324163
I hope they'll bring back old qt talking Netricsa
>>340311243
>>340311243
>>340311243
Okay guys, I'm making a second version of this
Who would you like to see in the comparisons image? (It helps if there is a way to track said character's kill)
I've added in Daniel Garner and Ranger.
>>340325063
>survive a massive horde
>Netricsa cheers and praises you
>>340325445
Caleb from Blood and Lo Wang from Shadow Warrior. Their numbers won't match up of course, but they're nice to have.
>>340325445
The cock lengths of each of those characters.
>>340325445
Caleb from blood
>>340325063
>tfw you'll never have a cute funny AI waifu in your head helping and cheering you
>>340304207
I want to see Europe destroyed and kill some inmigrants aliens which were defended by some cucks.
>>340326013
You can always get a tulpa :^)
>>340325445
The not-KISS band members from KISS Psycho Circus.
I remember having a killcount of like 4700 near the end and that wasn't even on the highest difficulty setting.
>>340325445
It would help to get the other Doom games as well like Doom 2, TNT, and Plutonia.
>>340325637
>>340325775
Alright then, Caleb it is
>>340326369
Already did it anon
>>340326359
Uh ... I'll have to look that up on Youtube and see if I can find anything useful
>>340325526
>makes you a hokku
>"For a second I thought we were finished when those three thousand monsters ambushed us in the mountains, but I calmed myself down remembering that we have each other, and they were all alone!"
>"Good luck, honey!"
>>340325445
Some modern-esque shooter could be nice to have for comparison.
Alternatively, Max Payne.
>>340323312
oh boy, you're in for a surprise towards the end!
If the end of level 4 doesn't convince you already, the next few maps will!
>>340325445
I wonder what kill count Daniel would have, considering first game + booh + one of the add-ons where he fights alongside with Belial and the last HD one which is considered to be sequel at the same time and has a lot of DLCs. Should be a very big number.
>Croteam finally got a break from Sam with Talos
>tfw SS4 might actually be pretty damn good
I hoping they show up the new Shadow Warrior, Wolfenstein TNO, and Doom 4 and show everyone how old shooters are supposed to be.
>>340327371
Painkiller + Battle out of Hell on Nightmare is 5539
I've never heard of this add-on
Wonder if I should include H&D since it's technically a new thing
>>340311243
>literally thousands of enemies between you and victory
There need to be more games like Serious Sam.
>>340318529
I played Serious Sam on a goddamn Pentium 3 with integrated graphics and still got 45fps at 640x480.
>>340313257
I had the opposite problem with Kleers. They were a challenge in BFE, but they were annoying as fuck in TFE.
It might have been the lack of sledgehammers as your first melee option.
>>340327549
They'll have to try very hard to achieve that though. NuDoom set the bar pretty high, and Croteam, despite having more people and money now than during the SS3 development, is still a relatively small team with smaller budget to compete with more mainstream competitors.
>>340327923
The Mutilator and Sledgehammer make short work of Kleers in BFE
>>340327278
>Play through that part on Normal
>Minigun essentially kills all kleers by itself
>Replay it on Serious
>OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT
>>340327641
>I've never heard of this add-on
Painkiller: Redemption
>Wonder if I should include H&D since it's technically a new thing
I dunno to be honest, because it's both a HD remake AND sequel.
>wanted to play Quake
>GOG version doesn't have the original music
>>340328065
>Mutilator
They'll mince you before you charge it.
>Sledgehammer
Way too risky and leaves you defenseless if you miss.
>>340328285
So wait, does the addon let you play co-op with Daniel or what?
Or can you just play either Daniel or the other guy?
Either way I think I'll skip it and just include the H&D bits, if I can find a good walkthrough on Youtube
>>340328524
Maybe on Hard and Serious, but on Normal it works quite well
>>340328775
>on Normal
>>340328775
>playing on literal babby modes in SS
u srs bruh?
How come Sam doesn't get much love outside of places like /v/? Everyone talks about Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, and Duke Kickem, but almost never mention Serious Samuel.
>>340328965
Can you see how he misses several times? Double shotgun is way more reliable.
>>340328912
>>340328889
It's too hard for me.
Doesn't mean I don't have fun with the games
>>340329048
Serious Sam has always been fairly niche, from what I understand. Most people on /v/ like niche games a lot more than other communities do.
>>340328563
>Or can you just play either Daniel or the other guy?
This. On some levels you play as Daniel, and on some - as Belial. But you can skip it really, 'cause it's non-canon anymore as I just read.
>>340329095
I just watched that webm 3 times. He misses exactly once.
>>340329307
Thank god, I'm having a hard time getting all the Hell and Damnation levels
>half the fucking levels are DLC
Jesus fucking Christ
>>340329156
>It's too hard for me.
Gitsrsnigger.
>>340329284
>One of the purest and most balanced shooters is niche
What a sad world to live in
>>340329048
Fuck off. Sam threads are always great and usually last like 12 hours.
>>340329428
Then I suppose that guy is more serious than me. Either way, shells aren't rare enough to conserve.
>>340329048
Niche non-casual game from a small developer. It's not that unknown or disliked and it has a lot of fans over the worls, but for some reason people usually don't take it seriously.
>>340329475
>half the fucking levels are DLC
It's sad how they fucking trashed it.
>>340329527
I play games for fun nigger
>>340329654
>Get back the title of FPS with the biggest number of enemies and the largest maps
uhhhh
Has there EVER been an FPS with more enemies and bigger maps than Serious Sam? I guess some Doom wads can compare but that's modding.
>>340329850
>devs had 60 dedicated servers up on launch
>multiplayer was never active for even a minute
Depressing
>>340329907
Playing Serious Sam on anything below Serious is like fucking a blow-up doll instead of a real thing.
>>340329527
Serious Sam is an intense multitasking challenge layered with gratuitous violence, stupid humor, and distinct, but clashing enemies. It alienates a lot of people.
It's complete perfection if you give zero shits about anything other than gameplay. The issue is that the average consumer doesn't like that.
>>340322941
i think i found the prototype build from this video.
>>340330105
That accurately describes my sex life.Minus the sex doll part, can't afford one
>>340329987
Well. may be they compare it to the previous Serious Sam titles.
>>340330295
No wonder, it was leaked a couple of years ago.
>>340330682
considering the videos description basically says he isnt sharing and it takes some digging. i just thought people would be interested in playin it. guess not.
>>340330774
Well I want it.
I can't wait to see what they think of for their anti piracy measure for Sam 4.
>>340330960
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxidJazKKqHwX3ktMVc5MllsTkU/view
>>340331085
>predator-esque cloaking kleer with sonic speed
>>340331085
What was the previous?
>>340331564
>Endless swarm of Marsh-Hoppers that keep spawning around you as you go through the game
>>340330246
>devolver confirmed for e3 but not the pc gaming show
They wouldn't dare to consolize SS4, would they?
>>340331085
endless swarm of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAs somewhere near the start of the game
and 15 minutes in the song plays:
and they don't stop coming and they don't stop comin and they don't stop comin and they don't stop comin
it gets more intense over time and if you survive for 50 minutes, you get to play the rest of the game as a pirate
>>340331085
>the only level loading in pirated SS4 is endless egyptian desert filled with millions of spawning kleers and your only weapon is a slipper
>>340332103
They are gonna show a VR Serious Sam game.
>>340332308
Source?
>>340331856
For Talos? They had pirated players get stuck forever in the elevator so they couldn't progress.
>>340332103
SS got rereleases on console that were pretty much direct ports and SS3 had dual releases. But its okay people will claim its consolized either way even if it sthe same as earlier ones.
>>340332403
Their level designer told about that on Steam to some anon from previous SS thread. There's also this photo from Croteam's office showing a glimpse of VR game on Serious Engine 4.
NEW AND IMPROVED
FRESH OFF THE PRESS
NOW WITH 50% MORE SERIOUS COMPETITION
AND A SHITTON MORE DEAD ALIENS
>>340332103
They actually managed to port SS3 to PS3 and 360. The absolute madmen.
>>340332946
>1858x4226 png file
>>340332962
yeah, and they look AND run like shit compared to PC original.
that being said, the game is super scalable, and those options menus make me diamonds every time.
>>340332691
>SS3 had dual releases
Nope.
>>340333162
http://imgur.com/EYI3lOE
There, happy now?
>>340332892
>Their level designer told about that on Steam to some anon from previous SS thread.
And I should just take your word for it? Source or gtfo.
>>340332946
God bless you, fellow anon.
>>340332946
Also there's no way in hell Serious Sam Advance has 2,000+ enemies. That anon is rusing you. I had that game as a kid. There's rarely more than 3-4 enemies on screen at once.
>>340303484
If you think it should have more metal just mail to Croteam or Mravunac, they are really chill and you'll probably get your wish.
>>340329095
Double shotty in BFE is way less reliable. Unless you have the shotty in their nose it won't kill a Kleer on serious.
May as well use rockets or the minigun later on. Least with rockets they put the infinite ammo boxes everywhere.
>>340333490
Well even if it's half that, it's still 43 thousand enemies.
>>340333784
You are the first person I've seen say that, I thought I was crazy because all anyone says is use the double for the kleer and it's okay. But it always felt like a terrible idea. I had the AR down pat for the extra range normally.
>>340333490
Serious Sam on GBA seems so weird, is the game actually good? Kind of curious.
>>340334435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2IGHLE7xY
>>340334118
AR is reliable but a huge ammo sink, you use somewhere around 25-30 bullets per Kleer. There's also fire rate to worry about, but that's offset by the ability to hitstun it.
Minigun is just straight up good since its so fast the advancing mob cannot get within 15 seconds of you. The issue is limited ammo sadly.
Rockets are top tier because unless a kleer is hugging you the splash damage is negligible. And if that's the case, you're dead anyway
>>340334435
it's slightly more impressive Wolfenstein 3D, but very slow.
Douk Advance & the Doom 2's port are better and smoother.
>>340334706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YD0yeuuOrY
>>340311243
>Guardian of Time
>>>/wsg/1116430
>>340334435
The soundtrack is surprisingly good. The rest is... uh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBGdomOo3PQ
>>340312254
>Bought both HD versions to join Serious Saturdays
>Joined the group
>can't run either
>Can't bring myself to leave
>>340335646
>The Queen Hatshepsut Achievement
Jesus Christ How SERIOUS.
>>340336685
Can you still modify the difficulty like in the HD versions?
>>340332946
A note about Serious Sam Advance - it has the same # of enemies on all difficulties.
I know this because I like that game more than I should
>>340336957
As far as I can tell, all the console oriented Serious Sam games have the same number of enemies, regardless of difficulty.
>>340336685
>tfw finally getting it
Metropolis King and Cathedral King were piss easy in comparison
>>340303484
Guys from Croteam were in Croatian version of MIT couple of weeks ago and basically confirmed new IP ("we are busy with next Talos and Sam game and something special we can't really talk about yet").
They really hit the gold mine with Talos and now have money to create more shit. Steam is also helping a lot in their case.
post em
>>340331906
>mfw this spawns new pirate% speedruns
>>340337323
I really hope this doesn't mean Serious Sam will be delayed again.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Talos, even beat the DLC for it, but I really want my serious fix
>>340336685
Tried it a few times, died a stupid death at the final boss fight. Haven't tried it since.
>>340337538
I don't think it will, their website and Facebook has been mostly about new SS past couple of weeks.
>>340337323
>They really hit the gold mine with Talos and now have money to create more shit.
That's good, I didn't know Talos was that much of a success.
>>340337740
I posted the kill count image on Croteam's page, I hope they notice me
>>340337850
They probably will. Maybe they send you one of the awesome but overpriced T-shirts.
>>340337414
are there any legit pirate% speedruns on youtube?
>>340316687
FUCK that level
my favourite
>>340337958
That would be cool.
I did make this some time ago, but it's not all that comfortable and the colors are kind of dark
>>340338014
No, because usually anti-piracy things gate you from progressing.
If there was an anti-piracy thing that kept spawning extra bullshit, but didn't stop you from beating the game, then I'm sure it'd happen.
Who wouldn't want the extra challenge? It'd be your ticket to the salty spatoon.
>>340338014
its not possible to get far with a pirated copy. at one point you'll get locked with the look up and look right controls. after a certain point it'll just start randomly crashing and get more and more severe as it goes on.
>>340337806
Anon, you're serious. I gotta step up my game. Gotta get those till 4 comes out.
>>340337323
That would be funny if they really announce Serious Sam for VR based in Egypt instead of SS4.
>>340338960
Cathedral King is pretty easy actually, only took me a couple of tries but I played the shit out of that level in the past.
Metropolis King the easiest of the bunch, once you're past the scarab collection it's a straight shot for the achievement.
Sam I Am I got thanks to Serious Saturdays events (being one of the best players in the oldand newgroup helped) and going on some crazy TSE HD streak where I kept replaying the campaign again and again and saving less and less times, ultimately beating the entire game without making any quicksaves (autosaves were off the entire time) andending a couple hundred kills short
>>340337794
I think everyone was kinda taken aback and thought "makers of Serious Sam made this?".
>>340303484
Thanks for introducing me to Undercore, this sounds dope
![87AE2FA0413CF9E971E7A3E41C77E3A056362B0A[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1fVlXvG.jpg "87AE2FA0413CF9E971E7A3E41C77E3A056362B0A[1]")
>>340338960
you can get cathedral and metropolis in like what, 15 mins using rocketjumps to skip almost everything
>>340339753
The it's fucking worthless. Gonna go for the SS3 one instead. I want to bust my balls for a badge of seriousness.
>>340339583
Talos cured my gaming impotence for a while.
>>340339914
that's what I thought and then that jumping floor section happened. You know, that one with kleers and everything flying everywhere. Metropolis was filled with spawning bullshit everywhere, you had to memorize every single spawn to clear it.
>>340315183
5fdp is groove metal though, which is what that sentence implies.
>>340339753
I knew about Metropolis but not Grand Cathderal. Only rocket jumping I did in that level involved using the serious damage you get at the start to get on the walls. Kinda curious on how you speedrun that one.
>>340339914
Only really hard part are the Kleers and Khnums before the boss fight. The rest of the level is actually pretty easy, though if you die a lot you'll end up absolutely hating that open area halfway through the level, purely because it's a time consuming piss easy fight that slowly whittles down your health.
>>340340137
You get a serious bomb at the start and another in the pumpkin field secret. I always save them for the pads.
>>340332946
I wish there were more directly comparable games. Will Rock comes to mind, but that game is pretty fucking bad.
>>340325445
Bullets it would take to kill all of those enemies, taking into account their health pool and resistances if any.
>>340309226
>Undercode
Too bad their second album is not that energetic and powerful as the first one. But hey, they'd make a good appearance as multiplayer skins.
>>340340715
It was a damn shame. Didn't stop The Gladiator from being so fucking good, though.
>>340340715
I think Gladiator and The Curse of Staying Alive are pretty good, the rest are just okay, sadly.
But hey, it's been how many years since their first album? Maybe the just got a little rusty is all
>>340340398
oh right, I think I forgot about bombs when I got there. Anyway, after you get out of the corridor, you run a lot to the ammo spawn, get the speed booties to run faster and hp and everything you want and run around the cathedral to the back wall. There is a nice spot to rocket jump, it will take you 3 shots leaving you with like 50 hp or something. You will definitely fail because wall is tricky, but it is possible. Then you just run forward, game teleports you to the boss, you kill him, the end.
>>340331085
they'll use denuvo
>>340340715
I actually liked their slower songs, but Driven, Gladiator and Post-Apocalyptic Indiands are still very fast and heavy tracks.
>>340341423
The only ones I didn't like were Radical Changes and The Great White Buffalo
>>340331085
What weapons would you like to see return in 4?The XOP Flamethrower
>>340343018
Get rid of the C4. Bring back the Grenade Launcher
>>340343018
Serious powerups
They're serious fun and allow for gargantuan arenas like the last stretch of Grand Cathedral
>>340343491
No, fuck you, don't take away muh C4. I fucking loved the C4.
Would love the grenade launcher back, that thing was great.
>>340303484
Does acrotea still have that massive as fuck collection of mods/maps for the original serious sam online?
I remember downloading a shitload of community made map packs from them back in 2003 or so.
>>340331856
For SS3 they had a pink immortal sanic speed scorpion
>>340344672
Shit, I eventually got the game off of Humble Bundle, but I remember being so frustrated with the pirated version. I think I eventually managed to out-sprint the scorpion and progress. That or I just God-moded the console.
>>340339753
I did Cathedral King by being a wall-climbing bitch. Still the most intense adrenaline rush of my fucking life. Did anyone do this one legit?
>>340344986
Yeah. You only need a rough idea of what's going to hit you to easily beat that one.
Some really nasty enemies spawn behind you during the corridor part, the jump pads would be a massive bitch if it wasn't for serious bombs and the fight before the boss can throw a curveball at you towards the end.
>>340339753
Does anyone seriously "play" the game by running and skipping so much content?
I fucking love (at least on the non-hd originals) to kill everything in every room,e very chance I get.
>>340333784
>Double shotty in BFE is way less reliable
wot
DS doesn't kill a kleer in tfe and tse unless you shoot it from exactly two meters, I don't remember it being any worse in BFE.
Fuck me the hype is real.
>>340344986
Funny enough, the level is easier on the HD version, mostly thanks to the buffed minigun. The only real annoying part was the 2nd room, but it's nothing to worry about.
>>340345582
In the HD version, they made the hitbox of the Kleer match the model. This made the hitbox smaller than the classic so they had to get closer if you want to 1-shot them.
Didn't matter for BFE, seeing that the Sledgehammer is better at killing them than the DS.
>>340346647
>pic
Too hardcore for me. I'd have to know exactly every single enemy spawn tto survive, and then again there's the open area.
Why are the memphis suburbs in TFE so anti-fun?
My least favorite part of the game everytime i get to them
>>340347268
Metropolis is worse than Suburbs. Suburbs is easy and short at least
>>340347461
i thought the absurd corridor massacre was fun at least.
Suburbs has nothing
>>340347710
Oh yeah, that.I haven't played TFE normally in years, only speedruns, Which skip the hallway part. So my opinions of levels are probably a bit fucked
![SS5_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tEmh03v.jpg "SS5 2[1]")
![Horror[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MT6ndDZ.jpg "Horror[1]")
