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What was her problem?
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>>340265034
>Her
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>>340265034
>her
That makes the game way sexier
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>Furry genocide
Nothing really, seems like a chaotic good character.
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>>340265106
>>340265065
Not OP but I always thought they were meant to be a girl, the name looks like cara which made me think of cara delevigne and they seemed like if you gave that one bitch from pre-school that hated everyone god like powers
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railroad_mejic

thank me later
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>>340265264
i think you need to back to /utg/
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From what I understand, it was abused and treated like shit up in the surface, it wanted to commit suicide, but failed and Monsters found it. They treated it like family, but at some point it learned that they were going to harvest its soul. So it became angry and psychotic and wanted to kill everything.
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>>340265321
i think you need to relax bruh
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>>340265034
She was just an asshole. Plain and simple.
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If Chara hated humanity, then why did they kill all the monsters?
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>>340265327
>it
She's a human, not some meme tumblr mutant.
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>>340265173
Chara isn't a name you fucking retard, it's shorthand for Character Name, as in the name you input at the beginning.
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>>340265552
because monsters were big cucks and supported the human agenda
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Kids all make mistakes
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>>340265552
She hated everyone
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>>340265602
>it's shorthand for Character Name
no no no NO NO
STOP with this meme. there is literally nothing in the game that states this. there is literally nothing in the documentation that states this. there isn't even a joke shitpost tweet from Toby that states this.
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>>340265327
More so they discovered that a human and monster soul combined was rediculously powerful, and they wanted to use this to get revenge on the humans that abused them, but when asriel decided to hold back chara decided they are just as bad/the same and just wants the whole world to burn.
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>you will never assrape chara
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>>340265552
You led them to that. They even say so in the big spiel at the end of a genocide run.
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>>340265602
Well then wheres the fucking n for nigger like you?
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>>340265627
Is that so?
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Chara is male
m a l e
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>>340265695
Where did the game call anyone "Chara"?
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>>340265897
"I am Chara"
t. Chara

play the game
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>>340265868
what if

they're both
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>be irish
>have username chara in some games cause it means friend in irish
>log on months later to account
>"OMG you like undertale!" etc
>every fucking time
>have to create new account sometimes to escape autists
Fucking hate this fanbase.
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>>340265958
They say "I am <name>." Depending on what name you put in at the beginning of the game.

>>340265897
Chara is used because if you use the name "Chara" it has a snippet that says "The True Name.", so people just use that as a common identifier.
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>>340265552
>Absorb 1 monster soul
>Power to break the barrier
>A fuckload of of Monster Souls
>???
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>>340266107
>>340265958

And right after I post this I realize you were just being a snark asshole.

Getting too tired for this shit
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>>340265958
Haven't played it, but reading through the wiki page all references to the character are with the <name> tag, indicating that it's the player input name. So Chara is indeed a stand-in name.
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>>340265791
>tfw no qt demon gf to sexually abuse me
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>>340266107
>Chara is used because if you use the name "Chara" it has a snippet that says "The True Name.", so people just use that as a common identifier.
That doesn't confirm anything though, that's like if Baldur's Gate had a bit of dialogue if you named your character "Charname". It's the same thing.
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>>340266210
>he doesn't know about THE TRUE NAME
play the game nigga
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>>340265863

Yeah

Speaking of Undyne

http://pastebin.com/vkNyENSD
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>literally an actual name in Celtic, West-Slavic, and Hellenic languages
>LOL NO OBVIOUSLY IT MUST BE SOME BIG META MEME REFERENCE SO SMART HUMOUR ARROW IN THE KNEE AMIRITE
wake me up inside
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>>340266297
What am I saying is that there is no confirmed name. "Chara" is supposed to be whatever name you use at the beginning, but instead of this character having a million fucking names, they use Chara.
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>>340265139
/thread desu senpai
chara did nothing wrong
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Chara is supposed to be yourself, so the real question is: What the fuck is YOUR problem?
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>>340266441
Yeah, so in other words, "chara" is just shorthand for "character name". A placeholder. We've gone full circle, the autism can stop now.
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>>340265173
I just figure Frisk and Chara are supposed to be the same gender as the player.
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>>340265034
She's nonbinary anon, that's her problem
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>>340266528
frisk and chara are both cute girls to be honest
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>>340266495
>Chara is supposed to be yourself

But I'm Male
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>>340266539
>Villains of the game are white
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>>340266527
I'm not the original anon you were arguing with, was just trying to make a clarification that probably wasn't needed. In my defense it's freaking 4 in the morning and I'm tired as shit.
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chara and asriel were twinks
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>>340266665
>Chara
>villain
let's not start this meme
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>>340266696
Glad to see harpoons ready and manned
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is chara chinese

or japanese
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>>340265034
>her
Mind your pronouns shitlord
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>>340266715
>not a villain
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>>340266768
Frisk is a racist Asian cartoon. Chara is evil whitey.
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>>340266639
i wish to be the little girl
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>>340266786
She is a beautiful young woman and I will not let you tell me otherwise
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>>340265173

Chara in greek means " Joy " and is a girl's name .
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>>340266895
>girl

keep telling yourself that

the true urge to kill comes from the Y chromosome
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>>340266890
what I learned from Undertale is that we are all red-eyed little girls on the inside
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> Her
Says who?
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>>340266768
Chara can become キャラ which literally means "Character" for Japanese. google translate also states that Chara from Japanese to English means "be even" but i cant help you with correctness there since i translate terribly.
also cant help with Chinese because as much as i want to learn it im pretty sure my mom would literally disown me if i actually tried to learn the language. she's mad i dont "act my race" as-is.
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>>340267175
>disowning for trying to learn a language
>"act your race"

Your mom sounds like a piece of shit
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>>340267084
>women are absolutely infallible and literally dindu nuffin, ever, from the beginning of time until the end of all days
is this bait, or some sort of advanced neo-millennial cuckoldry
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>>340266297
There's also the fact that in the steam screenshots showing of the game, the character was named named Chara
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>>340267307
oh yeah no she's incredibly xenophobic big fucking surprise, she's like full Japanese and is mad enough that i didn't grow up wearing dresses and all that crap. going even further off the track of what she wants would literally drive her up a wall.
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>>340267352
>>340267084


Please don't . just shut up.
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>>340267352
>>340267503
b8'd

who believes that shit. come on now.
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>>340266696
Not gonna lie this is some pretty decent cosplay
Maybe other than Frisk over there but for someone cosplaying a chubby child it's good enough
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>>340267352
>advanced neo-millennial cuckoldry
i dont know why but that made me laugh hard.
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>>340266696
>that Mr. Dad Guy
holy shit 10/10
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Undertale is a game about cute girls doing cute things, to be honest
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>>340266696
>That Asriel
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>>340267941
well it definitely can be cute, but i dont know about that.
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>>340265139
And, also, complete destruction of the world.
Chaotic Good!
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>>340268078
pretty sure he's referring to Toriel there
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>>340268045
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>>340268597
i mean, i dont deny its cute, but..
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>she's cute
>no i don't think he's a girl
>i thought she was a he and a she at the same time
>naw they're the same gender as the player
>frisk is agender because the creator is from tumblr
Jesus fucking Christ

Why do you care about that thing's gender so much in the first place? Can't you just look at Frisk/Chara/whatever the fuck, notice that the sprite looks somewhat androgynous and leave it at that? Why is it so important to determine the gender? You're worse than tumblr. Not everything needs to be labeled.
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>>340268841
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>>340268992
im fairly certain this is mostly shitposting. its all left fairly ambiguous just for the player to be able to self insert onto. toby didn't intend for it to be one way or another, just "whatever floats your boat".
Frisk and Chara are just whatever you imagine them as.
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>>340269087
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>>340269272
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>>340268992
some people want to sexually fantasize about Chara without it being gay

or in the case of most of these degenerate neo-millennials on /v/, they want to sexually fantasize about Chara without it being straight

that's probably 90% of the reason behind the unironic gender arguments
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>>340269353
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>>340269456
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>>340266063
>"OMG you like undertale!"
>"Nah, chara means friend in Irish."
>"oh okay.. that's actually pretty interesting!"
How fucking hard can that be? Alternatively you can just ignore them.

You're going to have to name your character John123647 if you don't anyone to mistake you for something or someone you aren't and even then it's still a possibility that exists.
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>>340269591
I mean I get where he is going though
Saying "Nah, chara means friend in Irish." would get annoying after the 15th time you have to say it
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>>340269591
>>340269792
I imagine it has follow up.
>Oh, have you played undertale though?
If yes, deal with discussion bullshit. If no,
>OMG, you need to go play it! It's such a great game and way underrated! It has... [etc]
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>>340269498
bullying is not ok.
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>>340269498
>yfw you will never be bullied by Mettaton traps
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>>340268841
but what
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http://determinators.tumblr.com/post/143284030397/greetings-uh-so-ive-been-working-on-this
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>>340271713
but stuff.
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>>340265552
You know what's funny? Chara probably thought she was hot shit after grinding all the monsters, but in the human world they're all a higher level anyway and beat the shit out of her
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>>340271783
is that so?
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>>340272231
yes
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>>340272385
how do you feel about Chara
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Can indie games go twenty minutes without doing some meta-narrative shit?
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>>340272617
honestly I can almost forgive UT being such a shitty hipster meme game, because it introduced me to best girl
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>>340272508
They're part of the prophecy, just like Frisk and Asriel. They're not really human, more like angels that have human souls as well
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>>340266297
During development Toby posted a screenshot of the inventory system and the name he was using was chara, which is short for character. It was supposed to be generic looking. He later made it a joke that chara is "the true name" based on that screenshot, because some people saw the screenshot and assumed that was the protags real name.

It later became an injoke to refer to spooky green shirt kid as chara because he is the true protagonist or something idk.
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>>340272790
>which is short for character
no

>he
oh wait you're just baiting. nevermind.
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>>340272742
Well, I don't know about Frisk, but Chara is definitely an angel to me.
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>>340268118
without the world, there's no famine, war, poverty. he's doing all this for the greater good
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>>340273125
What makes you so sure Chara's a girl?
When, in any game like Mother, has a girl worn a striped t-shirt?
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>>340273125

this isnt /utg/, go back to your containment board autismo
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>>340273393
>implying that den of degenerates, fags, and tumblrgendered australians would ever accept the idea of a female Chara
good joke lad
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I'm retarded; how the hell do you pronounce Chara?
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>>340273883
probably like how the people who actually use it as a name pronounce it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGs-ym7f2s
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>>340273883
ch-are-ah for me
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>>340265659

>she
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>>340274064
>he
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>she
>her
>girl

Dude what the fuck is going on, did Tumblr flat out change a dudes gender with headcanon?
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>>340274189
there's literally nothing in the game that states Chara is male but you already knew that
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>>340265868
Schrödinger's gender. She's simultaneously a boy and a girl until you can confirm her vag
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>>340273883
Char-uh, like Charmander.
I suppose it's probably supposed to be Care-uh, like Character, but whatever.
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the fact that this game features Undyne as a major character and the threads hardly even talk about wanting delicious tasty sweaty fish ass in their faces speaks volumes about how shit this fandom is
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>>340266063
>share name with popular character
>people make the connection
>STOP ASSUMING I KNOW THE POPULAR CHARACTER AND ASSUME IT'S A COINCIDENCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You're the autist here, I mean shit dude I have the last name Potter and your problem only extends to certain accounts on the internet.
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>>340268992
>frisk is agender because the creator is from tumblr
more like starmen.net
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>>340274527
>the threads hardly even talk about wanting delicious tasty sweaty fish ass in their faces
I just assumed it went without saying, to be honest
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>>340274189
Tumblr on character gender
>Frisk is a nonbinary genderfluid polynomial bisexual Asian-kin transnigger paladin just like me!
/v/ on character gender
>Chara is a cute gril that I want to have sex with!
Know the difference, it could save your life.
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>>340265327
wow, hearing this pronoun bullshit put into context, it sounds so jarring and unnatural.

I can't wait for when this all blows away and we can refer to people as people, and not objects anymore.
All normal people still do, but I mean when tumblrs get fed up of "it" and realise it's a retarded pursuit.
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>>340266539
Reminder they deleted their account because not even tumblr was having that shit. Fucking tumblr has a hardline for stupidity and /pol/ doesn't. Unfriggen believable.
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???
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Asriel = another name for Azriel (AKA Izrail, Azrin, Izrael, Azrael, Azrail, Ezraeil, Azraille, Azryel, Ozryel, or Azraa-eel), a Hebrew Angel/Demon, the God of Death, and some say he is the same entity as Sariel (AKA Seriel, Sauriel, Surya, Saraqael, Sarakiel, Suruel, Surufel or Sourial), demon son of Lilith and Samael, the blind God, who also identifies with the Angel Metatron (UNDERTALE's Mettaton). Yet another deity associated with Azriel is Raziel, and some believe they are the same being. Raziel (under the alternate name Galizur ("Revealer of The Rock")) is described as the "ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven." He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom," and protects the ministering angels from the Hayyoth (four-faced anthropoid beasts), the "holy Creatures" that uphold the universe. He is the Archangel of the Ophanim, the wheel angels.

UNDERTALE is Jewish mysticism propaganda. Toby Fox is, quite literally, a Jewish shill who secretly tries to normalize the Hebrew Satanic cult of Remphan and Moloch and make it accessible to children.
Gas the kikes.
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>>340274714
Looks like a boy to me even with those girly hips and no bulge.

"Androgynous" characters are always male. If a girl is posed as androgynous she's still three heads shorter than the rest of the cast and has enormous hips and a forest of eyelashes, and probably sparkly lipstick and shit.

That character is a boy to me no matter how hard I try to picture him as a girl. I fucking hate Japan for doing this to me. Men look like teenaged girls and girls look like fairy/porn star hybrids.
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>>340275206
Okay, /pol/ 1.0. Go back to cripplechan now.
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>>340275206
>Reposting immediately after delete
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>>340274769
True or not, hearing that was a relief and a reality check I previously didn't know I needed. I imagined that it's full >>340266539 in all of tumblr, forgetting that even /v/ isn't much better in reality.
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>>340275456
>/v/ isn't better than tumblr
then go back there, nigger faggot
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>>340275676
Thanks for proving my point by handing me greentexted implications about /v/ being superior to some blog site while posting emoji Trump meme pictures, I guess. Your kind is exactly what made me say that.
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>>340265552
Asriel refused to destroy the humans, so I assume Chara jumped to the conclusion that monsters deserved to die too
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>>340275885
the amount of assblast in this post is unbelievable
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>>340276638
so is the amount of baja blast ive been drinking lately. what a blast.
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>>340266539
Post the LISA one, it's hilarious
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>>340276638
There's a difference between unimpressed and disappointed and "assblasted".

You should leave if you're only here to shitpost and parrot the funny phrases you've heard the cool guys from /b/ use. You have zero input so what are you posting for? Posts like yours only get ignored so it's not like you're getting anything out of it.

Please consider leaving. I'm saying this for your own good. This is my last reply.
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>>340277076
mad?
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>>340276886
Oh goodness no.
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None. You, as frisk teach that... whatever it what's right or wrong.
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Why wasn't he a boss
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>>340280841
they're being saved for hard mode ;^)
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Best character
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>>340271783
source please
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>>340265552
It wasn't Chara that did that.

God do you motherfuckers even pay attention?

Chara did not hate monsters, Chara killed themselves to be absorbed by Asriel to kill all the humans, but Chara died, never to be heard from again until a very specific chain of events happened.

Frisk falls down, is possessed or whatever the fuck, and Chara doesn't make Frisk kill any monsters until the very very VERY end where you are forced to kill Asgore, and even then Flowey steals your kill anyway.

Chara never killed a single monster, but your Genocide Crusade awoke their violent nature regardless. It can be argued that Chara became more aggressive, but that's just because the game tends to side with you based on whatever you're doing. For example, if you go through the game without killing anyone, the Narrator makes jokes, like the Snowdecahedron or Alphys's dogfood bag being half full. If you kill even one monster, it's a snowball, and the dogfood bag is half empty.

Chara, at worst, is just your cheerleader. Once you've already made it painfully obvious that you dont care about being friendly, Chara stops caring too, and helps you along by letting you skip puzzles and 1 shotting inconsequential enemies.

That's it.
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>>340273883
It's pronounced Care-Uh. Since the word Chara is actually real, you're either pronouncing it right, or you're pronouncing it wrong.

While it may sound stupid to call it Care-Uh at first, might I remind you about how 100% of all people came to eventually pronounce the word "Meme" properly.
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>>340268118
>world is gone
>there are none and can be no longer any furries forever
sounds pretty chaotic good to me desu, standard ends justify means good
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>>340265034
>Her
SHE
HAS
NO
MERCY
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>>340265264
Too much futashit.
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>>340266441
%playername%
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>>340266665
Asgore did nothing wrong.

>>340276886
>>340278259
I am now curious.
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>>340267450
It is japanese tradition. You must get to age 25 without a boyfriend so your ovaries shrivel up and become useless.

You aren't acting japanese if you use your ovaries before they dry up. Only those disgusting Vietnamese and Filipinos do that.
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>>340267134
Wait.

If Chara is the part of (You) that feels pleasure whenever numbers go up, and the part of (You) that desires to clear all the trashmobs, then who are you giving your SOUL to?
Another part of yourself?
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>>340268045
I am going to fuck a Temmie. I am also going to fuck %playername%.
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>>340286647
see >>340271717
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>>340285135
She has no mercy for my dick all right
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>>340266107
If you enter your own name (which Toby recommends) the parts that use your name can be pretty freaky if you aren't expecting them
>abort genocide run just before the end
>do a neutral run instead
>Flowey kills Asgore
>"Don't you remember, Anon? In this world..."
>"I T ' S K I L L O R B E K I L L E D"
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>>340285135
SHE
HAS
NO
GRACE
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>>340273393
/trash/ here. We have /utg/ porn threads. I see more fem%name% than male%name%. Granted, most of those threads are people wanting Asriel the hebrew god of hyperdeath to screw them. Those that aren't tend to be Fishfuckers and people wanting to be vored by the Biceratops.
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>>340265173

how old are you
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>>340268078
this is the person I remember playing as. Who is the green shirt person?
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>>340275206
While Undertale obviously has roots in Qabbalism, calling it propaganda is a bit of a stretch.

That said, the [deleted], combined with >>340275274 this faggot namefagging /pol/ for what is obviously /x/ demesne makes me wonder. Are you some form of (((Hebrew))) that thinks everything she doesn't like is /pol/?
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>>340275340
I do that all the time. Especially on cuck boards like /tg/, /co/, and /tv/ where you'll get [deleted] if you make ERP posts about abusing and disciplining a chick, in order to train her to be a good girl and know her place.
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I'll never understand why so many people are in love with Alphys,

she's obnoxious as shit, ugly as sin, and so much of the bad shit that happens can be traced directly back to her

but she's one of the most popular characters
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>>340277076
Yeah, u assblast to the past at 88 memes per hour.

That said, we repost the funny phrases because they are funny. Laughter and humor are positive feelings that we wish to share. And I for one find Le laughing crying trump with ok sign to be amusing.
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>>340287221
THIS
KONG
MAKES
THE
WORLD
ERASED
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>>340265034
Chara just wants to beat videogames and be strong, I think /v/ of all places would be behind such a non-casual philosophy. "Destroying the world" at the end is just a metaphor for the fact that the game is over since you beat the hardest boss.

Don't tell me you actually care about such totally awesome characters like "anime loving skeleton" "anime loving fish lady" "anime loving lizard" and everyones favorite "Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked sense of humor skeleton"?

one of the few non-awful pieces of undertale art has frisk go on a rant about how/why he ends up doing genocide route, which boils down to "your boss fight is really awesome". anyone got it? I don't feel like digging through miles of shit
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>>340287796
>she's obnoxious as shit, ugly as sin, and so much of the bad shit that happens can be traced directly back to her
>but she's one of the most popular characters
Because people identify with her.

I, on the other hand, don't really identify with any of the characters. I do like the murder demon of rising numbers, but in their 1st plan, they trusted Asriel to not be a whiny little bitch.
This makes it an obviously stupid plan, because the #1 constant of Asriel is "whiny little bitch". Possibly adds rainbows and edgy, but still a whiny little "muh feels" "muh only fun one to play with any more" "muh LET ME WIN" hyperbitch.

Toriel did everything wrong too.
If the kids are gonna die, kill one yourself for shit's sake. Take their soul, go tell Asgore he's a faggot, go through the barrier, get 6 more, come back, job's done, gg.
Nope, just going to neglect your duties as queen and somehow make it all Asgore's fault that kids keep dying. Bitch please, you're in the same boat that he is and your response is to shut yourself in your ruins and act like it's someone else's problem. You even outright call Asgore on his lack of foresight without realising the exact same lack of foresight also replies to you, you incredible cunt, go fuck yourself.

Alphys did everything wrong too.
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>>340287796
the fact that I couldn't knife her was some major bullshit

also, the fact that her and a bunch of other monsters escape means it can't really be called a "genocide route", can it?
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>>340268078
I don't remember this line at all.
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>>340288739
Genocide route as your 1st run (or after a TRUE RESET).
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>>340269353
Further proof that the Mettaton look can make anyone sexy.
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>>340288520

>Asgore
>Just wants to be a kind leader
>feels genuinely horrible over the fact that he has to murder children
>loses the will to continue
>Secludes himself in shame for what he did
>Toriel
>basically tells him to kill himself and leaves him
>not for killing a kid
>but not for following through and killing enough kids

>the internet's reaction:
>UwU ily goat mom youre so sugoii fuck your husband be queer date me I've decided you're trans now UwU

I felt so bad for asgore, just wanted to hug that motherfucker and talk about gardening all day
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>>340271558
Anon stop I can only get but so depressed.
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>>340288520
>Toriel
yeah she pisses me off to acting like she has the moral high ground
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>>340288674
you destroy the world at the end anyway. plus alphys kills herself on all neutral routes with the exception of aborted genocide route
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>>340272617
Most indie games kind of beat you over the head with YOU'RE IN CONTROL YOU BAD BAD MAN but I think Undertale does a pretty good job of integrating game mechanics with the story. Especially the fact that the monsters act 'realistically' to you murdering them.
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Chara is a he
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>>340275074
>That one where Chara, Frisk, and Asriel are all worshipping Asgore's huge dick
muh
dik
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>>340288986
That's not the same at all
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>>340289049
this
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>>340287372
Fish Fuckers are objectively superior, clearly. Followed by Mettaton fuckers. Skeleton fuckers are dead last and deserve to be spit upon
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>>340288791
Really? I've done a true reset and I don't recall any alternate lines. I know a soft reset has some characters vaguely remember you though. Unless you absolutely have to do Genocide at some point. I don't have much interest in doing a Genocide, the grind sounds tedious and I hate being the bad guy unless there's some awesome reward.
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>>340289449
Sans' bossfight is the awesome reward.

While no, you don't HAVE to do genocide, much like you don't HAVE to play Undertale, you might as well go geno once to see what happens.
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>>340265034
who is that person in the OP?

pls respond

I only recall playing as the purple shirt person
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>>340289561

read the fuckin thread
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>>340289561
I'm going to assume you're joking and fall for the bait anyway.

Asgore and Toriel had two kids, one biological and one adopted. The first fallen human ever was named by you, you are not naming the main character, you are naming this one.

That character died a long time ago and started a war, the reason Asgore and the rest of the game wants to kill or capture you. That character appears at the very end of the game if you do what the community calls a "Genocide" playthrough.

Figure the rest out yourself.
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>>340265034
>Her
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>>340289765
>>340289658
oh no I got it now thanks. I was just confused because of all the autistic fan art with the characters both together.
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So I did a pacifist run

What should I do after my geno playthrough
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>>340274769
>Tumblr purges their hyper autists when they reach a certain point

That's actually pretty rich. I'm not sure if /pol/ doesn't have that "I don't care if it agrees with me, this shouldn't exist.". I just think /pol/ has dramatically lower standards.
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>All these fucking fanon theories
Chara is supposed to be you. That's it. Toby made the mistake of thinking that people who do Genocide runs were obsessed with raising their LV when really most were just curious what the Genocide route was. Chara is supposed to be YOU, the embodiment of your greed that controlled Frisk and drove him/her to kill everyone. That's why Frisk isn't named until the end of the Pacifist run. Undertale was supposed to be a story affected by your choices and Chara was supposed to be the meta catalyst for that.

What makes it confusing is that the choices are literally "Be nice" or "Kill everyone". So there ends up being little choice at all. If there were more neutral-ends, Chara could've been an interesting concept.
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>>340290252
but there IS a in universe chara beyond the deconstruction of leveling which is a very interesting subject
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>>340288986
Alphys in Neu routes survives if Mettaton survives.

My first run had a grand total of 4 kills.
Snowdrake
Undyne (reloaded save after she wouldn't be my friend, went back and killed her)
RG01 and RG02
Wanted to tell Snowdad I killed his son, game didn't give me the option.
Got the ending where the Underground was in anarchy.

My favourite Neu ending is where you 0kill up until Undyne, befriend her, then get 9 kills (one of which must be Mettaton).
Undyne gets crushed by depression because she befriends me, then loses everyone she loves.
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>>340290481
Yeah but she/he is only relevant in the genocide run and Souless Pacifist ending
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>>340290791
>Yeah but she/he is only relevant in the genocide run and Souless Pacifist ending
Well that's not true at all.
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>>340290481
I like the way Undertale deconstructs the idea of Saving and Loading and Resetting, as being different timelines (or different memorylines, since I don't really believe in time).

It also is aware of itself as a set of game code - items that are dummied out of the main game, but still present in the code as unused sprites and areas, are canon. Game thinks that these are shattered across time, but really they're shattered across the game's memory.
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>>340290935
Those are the only times she's brought up. Nothing about her is mentioned in the Neutral route and only her backstory is given in the Pacifist route. All the fanon theories beyond that are dumb.
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>>340291153
>If it's not bluntly stated it doesn't exist because I'm too simple to catch things that are subtle.
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>>340291589
>My fanon theory
You were talking about how she exists outside the deconstruction of the level thing. Outside of what I mentioned, she's hardly relevant. She's there to make the Genocide run feel more personal because she's supposed to be you.

She's like Gaster, she's something that's barely in the game that autistic fans have taken to unbelievable extremes with there theories.
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>>340265034
>Letting monsters that pose a threat to humans live
>Not cutting them with knives

I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>340291589
Who are you quoting?
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>>340290252
>If there were more neutral-ends
There are but everybody only go to extreme route. Because of this every video game only does "Nicest guy, twisted psychopath"
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>>340291818
Gaster is an NPC that was removed early in development. (((Toby))) decided to keep him in as a reference to dummied out characters and leftover things that stay in the game code but go unused.
He's basically a reference to unused characters.
(((Toby))), being the meta fuck that he is, then adds references to him that only pop up sparsely during the main playthrough, because the game is aware of itself as a piece of code.
Alphys even has a comment in the game's programming where if you try to datamine the answers to "Who does Dr. Alphys have a crush on" you get a comment from her LOLing at you.
OOC, Gaster is missing because Toby wanted a different character in the game.
IC, Gaster is missing because he fell into the determination engine and was shattered across all possible memorylines.
According to BOTH, Gaster is scattered across the game's code and occasionally leaks into the main program.
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>>340292098
I miss Planescape: Torment.

So many Evil runs are "HEHehe I burn puppies and kick orphanage for teh EVULZ" slaughter fests where you maim loot rape pillage and cannibalise anything in your way.

PS:T's Evil is different.
It's an emotionally manipulative kind of evil, where you force people to be your *slaves*, through threatening their feelz and making them really sad if they don't do what you want.

I really, really like PS:T's Evil and I wish more games had that kind of manipulative bastard evil instead of the blunt orphanage kicking.
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>>340292098
A few lines of text at the very very end hardly counts as an ending. There's no good-neutral or bad-neutral for example. The neutral game is literally just the first three/fourths of the pacifist route, so after you do a single neutral run there's fuck all reason to do another one.
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>>340292409
Bad-neutrals are where Undyne and Alphys survive.
Good-neutrals are where they are removed.
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>>340291818
>You were talking about how she exists outside the deconstruction of the level thing. Outside of what I mentioned, she's hardly relevant. She's there to make the Genocide run feel more personal because she's supposed to be you.
>She's like Gaster, she's something that's barely in the game that autistic fans have taken to unbelievable extremes with there theories.
I understand you're simple so subtlety isn't your strong suit, but did you really not catch things like this? Are you really so determined to be superior to "Those retarded fan theorists" that you're willing to ignore the obvious. Pretty sad stuff man.
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>>340292617
Again, something that doesn't affect the actual direction of the game. When the game is set up so that the neutral runs are so similar to each other, you don't have any incentive to do one again. They're just shorter pacifist runs.
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>>340293057
Or less complete genocide runs with a worse final boss. =)
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>>340291818
Seriously though how do you miss this?
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>>340292973
I'm not denying there's a few lines of dialogue that imply Chara, the player, has control of Frisk, I conceded that in my first post. I'm saying the "fan" interpretation of Chara beyond what the games says she is go beyond what the she's supposed to be. I know autistic people have a hard time with reading comprehension.
>>340292973
>>340293319
>Pretty sad stuff man
Someone's butthurt
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>tfw no asriel bf
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>>340266696
lets not forget Metaton
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>>340293484
tfw no asriel to kill and flay for comfy goatskin rug because he becomes dust when he dies =(

tfw comfy dust mat tho =)
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>>340293484
Asriel = another name for Azriel (AKA Izrail, Azrin, Izrael, Azrael, Azrail, Ezraeil, Azraille, Azryel, Ozryel, or Azraa-eel), a Hebrew Angel/Demon, the God of Death, and some say he is the same entity as Sariel (AKA Seriel, Sauriel, Surya, Saraqael, Sarakiel, Suruel, Surufel or Sourial), demon son of Lilith and Samael, the blind God, who also identifies with the Angel Metatron (UNDERTALE's Mettaton). Yet another deity associated with Azriel is Raziel, and some believe they are the same being. Raziel (under the alternate name Galizur ("Revealer of The Rock")) is described as the "ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven." He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom," and protects the ministering angels from the Hayyoth (four-faced anthropoid beasts), the "holy Creatures" that uphold the universe. He is the Archangel of the Ophanim, the wheel angels.

UNDERTALE is Jewish mysticism propaganda. Toby Fox is, quite literally, a Jewish shill who secretly tries to normalize the Hebrew Satanic cult of Remphan and Moloch and make it accessible to children.
Gas the kikes.
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Chara is a girl because pink cheeks.
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>>340293874
>>340275206
Asriel = another name for Azriel (AKA Izrail, Azrin, Izrael, Azrael, Azrail, Ezraeil, Azraille, Azryel, Ozryel, or Azraa-eel), a Hebrew Angel/Demon, the God of Death, and some say he is the same entity as Sariel (AKA Seriel, Sauriel, Surya, Saraqael, Sarakiel, Suruel, Surufel or Sourial), demon son of Lilith and Samael, the blind God, who also identifies with the Angel Metatron (UNDERTALE's Mettaton). Yet another deity associated with Azriel is Raziel, and some believe they are the same being. Raziel (under the alternate name Galizur ("Revealer of The Rock")) is described as the "ruling prince of the 2nd Heaven." He is said to expound the "Torah's divine wisdom," and protects the ministering angels from the Hayyoth (four-faced anthropoid beasts), the "holy Creatures" that uphold the universe. He is the Archangel of the Ophanim, the wheel angels.

UNDERTALE is Jewish mysticism propaganda. Toby Fox is, quite literally, a Jewish shill who secretly tries to normalize the Hebrew Satanic cult of Remphan and Moloch and make it accessible to children.
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>>340293447
>I'm not denying there's a few lines of dialogue that imply Chara, the player, has control of Frisk,
>chara is the player
>chara refers to herself and the player who is also herself
>at the end of the genocide route chara calls themselves their partner and best friend. Thanks themselves for resurrecting themselves and showing them that power is the reason for living. and a gets upset with themselves for trying to be above the consequences of their action that they committed and undermines themselves because it's meta and thus doesn't have to make sense.
>If you don't find this 100% logical then you're retarded and butthurt

Stop anon, it's getting sad.
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>>340294109
What about your post refutes my points? You're just agreeing with me. Again, I know reading comprehension can be hard.
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>>340293996
m8 you're on /v/.
A full half of the people here have an overwhelming uncontrollable fetish for "cute boys" with rosy red cheeks and a "feminine dick".
Possibly because they want to be the tranny boy and receive 100,000s of the penis, possibly they wish to put the penis into 100,000s of the tranny boy, or probably both.

The only feminine trait that truly determines whether someone is a girl or not is if they have a vagina instead of a penis.
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>>340294220
>ha ha! I'm only pretending to be retarded
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>>340294373
Anon are you legitimately handicapped? I feel kinda bad now.
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>>340294472
Yes, I have autism and depression. :)
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>>340294472
anyone who likes TUMBLRTALE is mentally handicapped
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>>340294627
Anyone who goes to /v/ is mentally handicapped tbqh
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>>340265034
>tfw no Overtale taking place post-Soulless Pacifist ending where you team up with Chara again to wipe out the furtrash once and for all

Asriel literally gave me flashbacks to those gayfur characters spammed on /v/ all the time, I fucking hated that guy.
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>xir
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>>340286647
Chara genuinely is a character in the story, symbolically, she is the part of you that feels pleasure whenever numbers go up. Another interesting thing about the game is that there is a fourth wall and no fourth wall at the same time. You're a separate character from both Frisk and Chara. Flowey thinks you're Chara, Chara thinks you're Frisk.
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>Chara
>Joy
>Lisa
>The joyful
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>>340294472
Anon are you legitimately handicapped? I feel kinda bad now.
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I never get an excuse to post this.
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>>340294472
you poor thing.
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>>340295946
>>340297086
Notice how the thread didn't bump? It's because you're samefagging. I'll bump this one last time just to say how pathetic you are.
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>>340297956
>>340295946
>talking to yourself
Holyshit this autism.
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>>340298284
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>>340298552
>look mom I can use photoshop, I'm not shitposting to keep this thread alive
come on anon you're better than this
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>>340299171
Too quick to shop
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>>340299171
Or he could easy used html editing, its faster.
Takes 2-3 seconds.
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>>340265034
Chara's just a character reincarnated from Frisk's determination after entering the underground.
Everything about Chara's personality is crafted by Frisk's actions as evident by the fact that he's your narrator, speaking in your head throughout the game.
If you're a good puss he's calm, jokey, and will even praise you for being a good person Despite everything, it's still you. He even gives you the advice needed to save your friends at the end of true pacifist.
He just seems like an asshole because you only see him personally in the genocide run when you're accordingly an asshole with enough determination being pooled into Chara that he basically takes over your body.

But yeah, he did hate humanity. That's a fact.
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>>340273883
"chairiel"
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>>340283196
This though.
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