Why is a metal gear even a good weapon?
>>340188421
Because it's a bipedal tank that can fire nukes from any location.
>>340188713
you know... a airplane which fires icbms are 1000x times more useful.
Who would win in a fight Metal Gear or Gundam?
Its a huge mecha that can fire a nuclear missile to any location on earth, and is practicaly indestructable.
Stealth nukes
>>340189069
Airplanes are easy to shoot and track down compared to a metal gear though.
>>340189069
Mate, do you actually know what an ICBM is or looks like?
>>340189069
>a airplane which fires icbms
>>340189069
Dude, ICBMS are fucking massive. Like, they need a NASA sized launching facility to launch one.
In combat it would be pretty good for awhile since it seems mostly immune to small arms fire and non-specialised explosives, once they made anti-metal gear munitions and or called in the planes it's pretty fucked.
For stealth launching nukes it was apparently pretty good, but why a government would ever need to stealth launch a nuke is beyond me. It seems tailor made for terrorism.
>>340189090
Gundams are pretty much designed to take out mechs. The only reason Metal Gear was even developed was because it's able to fire untraceable nukes to anywhere on the planet. It was literally defeated by a dude using a simple missile launcher.
>>340188421
I think it's something to do with bypassing countermeasuresand having been made up in the 80s
>>340189589 There are diffrent varients. some were designed to take down metal gears. Such as the battle gear
>>340189069
>icbms
just to spoonfeed: an ICBM is a missile that can be launched on one continent and strike on another. it is it's own airplane.
>>340188421
Because it's just like one of my japanese animes.
>>340188421
>Why is a metal gear even a good weapon?
Why is a shagohod even agroovyweapon?
>>340189996
what is the Austin Powers of Metal Gears?
So do Metal Gear Solid and Zone of the Enders take place in the same universe?
>Any mech
>Ever being feasible irl
Fucking weebs
>>340190197
>they're both shit
I think your onto something here
>>340190386
Rex and the Shagahod are both realistically plausible. Ray less so, but Ray was cool and had a water gun, so he gets a pass.
>>340189069
The point was it could fire undetected because it did not use a rocket. Imagine a nuclear bomb hitting without even a minute warning to realize you're fucked.
>>340189583
It was made for that. Metal Gear Rex was ordered to be created by Solidus trying to undermine the Patriots
>>340190197
Snatcher and Metal Gear do
Metal Gear Sally was pretty fucking crazy as a weapon
At least when it has magic controlling it since Huey was a useless cuck
>>340189583
It's a deterrent. You announce you can stealth launch a nuke in retaliation to attacks and suddenly no one wants to attack.
But then other countries start developing Metal Gear detecting technology and you start that arms race.
>>340189069
No airplane can carry an ICBM for a long enough time to consider it a constant threat. While a Metal Gear operates 24/7 practically forever, and since it's a ground based vehicle it is easily refueled.
>>340189448
>>340189482
>they don't know
https://youtu.be/It7SQ546xRk
>>340191078
>you will never play the true final battle with it
>will probably end up as a pachislot
>>340190714
yes but why build a mech? why not a rail-mobile platform?
People who like Metal Gear should be executed. Thief is the superior stealth franchise, but everyone talks about shitty non-games that the hack Kojima incompetently farts out. I hate every single one of you motherfuckers and I want you to die.
>>340191174
>>340189882
>>340189482
>>340189448
>>340189310
are you all retarded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7SQ546xRk
>>340191642
The mech was never the important part of Metal Gear. Otacon build it like that because he's a fucking weeb.
The only important thing was its rail cannon capable of launching nukes without being detected.
The legs supposedly gave it possible terrain advantage but it's stupid because treads are infinitely more efficient in any situation barring deeper bodies of water and a large rocky staircase.
>>3401884212
2000s offices best offices.
>>340189482
Submarines have had this capability since the 80's anon.
>>340190386
Wild Wild West spider walker type thing maybe, bipedal mech would probably stop at an exosuit point.
>>340189069
>a airplane which fires icbms
You cant detect or stop nuke fired from metal gear rex, it's fired from railgun
Sneaky nukes
Sahelanthropus is shit though, I don't fucking understand why would anyone want to use it
>>340188421
It's a weapons platform that can launch nukes via a rail-gun, no need for an icbm when it can literally throw them across the planet without detection.
The bipedal part is meant to make it all-terrain and highly mobile
It's supposed to be capable of going just about anywhere in the world to launch a nuke with minimal chance of being detected before or after firing
But the important thing to remember is it's a fictional war machine, and that makes it extremely dangerous. Perhaps even more dangerous than a non-fictional war machine.
>>340194048
again, why don't they mount the rail gun on an airplane and fly it anywhere in the world. makes more sense to be honest.
Sorry, but there isn't anything about any of the Metal Gears that makes their nukes more effective or stealthy than actual nukes. They exist because Kojima thinks they're cool. Nuclear warfare was always matching or surpassing these supposedly impressive mechs.
>>340194201
Because that's not very cool at all
You're making a fictional war machine. Try having fun.
>>340194048
I wonder if China is secretly developing fictional war machines. We may be doomed without knowing it.
>>340189069
>a airplane which fires icmbs
how big is this plane
>>340194359
pretty big.
>>340191332
>>340191857
This is probably 100x cooler than anything Kojima smoked up.
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>>340190515
Not that guy, but it's been discussed multiple times and none of these are practical they're intentionally a mix of real and fantasy that's meant to help with suspension of disbelief. If the fantasy armor/engine/weapon capabilities of these vehicles were employed in real military tech they'd always be better. If you ignore the ridiculous logistical oversights most of the metal gears couldn't even function.
>Rex
>It uses a railgun to launch high speed nukes from stealth, because it's a heavily armored ground vehicle that can maneuver in rough terrain.
The narrow footprint and heavy armor mean this thing is worthless of the bat. On loose terrain such as mud, sand, mountainous shale/gravel slopes or not fully compacted forest soil it will sink a considerable degree. The legs also make amphibious operation much less efficient if possible at all.
The hooks on its toes would likely crumple if they anchored into anything, but more importantly probably can't anchor into anything. You're not drilling with them, you're just piercing straight into whatever it is, which means if you wanted to go up a mountainside that isn't loose rocks, you'd just be piercing into large boulds, which would then split and fragment, leaving no good anchor point.
Let's say it can do ALL of that though equally well as a just a large tank or mobile artillery piece. How is it going to ever be fucking transported?
Tanks ruin asphalt and concrete surfaces so this thing would be making potholes left and right with those feet if it walked anywhere itself, also a giant fucking mech is really noticeable going down the road or through someone's farmland. So I guess you transport it by train or vehicle and then hope no one sees it on its way to wherever it's going to launch its nuke from, begging the question why you don't just retrofit a railgun on existing military hardware and try to disguise it as just another standard tank/artillery piece being transported around the country.
>>340194224
The rail gun launches the at incredibly hihg speed so they don't have to use their own fuel, making them impossible to detect.
>>340191332
It wasn't fired, it was dropped
>>340194597
anything traveling at high speed will generate heat through friction and ram pressure. MIRV's are unpowered and can be tracked.
>>340189069
You may be thinking of strategic bombers, and no they are not more useful than a (fantasy) mobile stealth missile silo.
>>340194584
>You're not drilling with them,
Maybe you're drilling out with them, of the hole you just sank into?
>>340194584
>On loose terrain such as mud, sand, mountainous shale/gravel slopes or not fully compacted forest soil it will sink a considerable degree
Avoid loose terrain then
>The legs also make amphibious operation much less efficient if possible at all.
Walking underwater might be possible on certain types of soil.
>The hooks on its toes would likely crumple if they anchored into anything
Nah they're super strong. They also seem to be retractable, so you could use them only when the terrain is suitable.
>How is it going to ever be fucking transported?
We saw Shagohod carried by 4 or 5 helicopters in MGS3, and Rex seems lighter than that. You could also detach the legs, head and radome so make it easier to transport with discretion by other means.
>why you don't just retrofit a railgun on existing military hardware
In MGS1 Solid can take rockets, bullets and the laser to the face and walk away like nothing happened, while still needing a robot ninja to help him take down Rex. So I'd say the gameplay isn't representative of Rex's real defensive capabilities, and it can actually hold it's own against a bigger threat than conventional military ardware would be able to.
>>340192289
Except Granin came up with the concept and the name.
>>340188421
Cyborgs destroy Metal Gears like it's nothing
They're kinda obsolete now
>>340198209
>Mfw Raiden is literally the strongest being in the Metal Gear verse
I miss old weak Raiden
