Jay Wilson quits the game industry
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After ruining Diablo 3 and WoW, Jay Wilson finally quits the industry.
Is Blizzard finally saved?
https://twitter.com/Angryrobotics/status/739884596502749184
If only the rest of Blizzard's employees would quit.
PC gaming would be better off without all of them.
>>340188336
And he'll be missed by absolutely no one.
>>340188336
He ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''quit''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
he probably got fired but was allowed to say that he quit on his own choice.
next week nostalgia servers for wow
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340188336
and then we fat fack doubled it
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340189004
Why would they fire him? You can't be serious.
This guy made ridiculous amounts of money for Blizzard
Regardless of what you think of D3 that game is still one of the best selling PC games of all time and it is not a total failure like some other game...
>>340188336
Fuck that loser, and fuck anyone who has WoW or Diablo3 on their resume.
fuck that loser
why is he quitting the games industry?
Who?
Don't want to Google his name because he probably has his Google Trends page bookmarked knowing faggot geeks like that.
>>340189660
D3 vanilla was given for free to a lot of people who pledged the 1 year sub for WoW, and the expansion only sold a lot because it actually fixed that fucking mess.
>>340188336
Did someone say DANCE THREAD
Fuck that loser.
>>340189732
A designer who designed Diablo 3, then he was put into the WoW team after MoP and before WoD. Go figure.
Literally who?
>>340189732
don't try to get in on shit you don't know
Fuck that loser.
>>340188336
FUCK
THAT
LOSER
>>340188336
>removed to project titan after D3 fiasco
>titan cancelled few months later
he is walking bad luck
>>340188336
fuck that loser.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
I would not fuck that loser, but fuck that loser.
>>340188336
Fuck that loser.
Fuck that loser
everything is burning!
what's next, EA financial ruin?
>shit up d3 and wow
>my job is done
>Remove him from the D3 team
>D3 instantly becomes the best iteration of itself
>Think of a genius plan of putting him on teams and them removing him so that game becomes the best iteration of itself
>Remove him from Blizzard so it can become the best iteration of itself
10/10, now WC4.
This is the guy who single handed ruined the Diablo series and then raped WoW with WoD
>>340188336
He did nothing wrong. He's just a meme scapegoat like Jennifer Hepler.
>>340189660
You do realize you don't need to do anything to sell a "Diablo 3." Just ship a bunch of boxes with the name Diablo 3 and it will sell itself. The commercial success wasn't because of him. You won't believe how many discussions I've overheard during the midnight launch where people had no idea what classes were going to be in the game. People just line up with their friends and make the blind purchase because NEW DIABLO IS COMING OUT GUYS.
Fuck that loser.
>>340188336fuck that loser
>>340188336
>quit
That's not how you spell fired after ruining 2 game legacies
>>340190843
>but still definitely buy the game please, and everything will be just fine. K?
>>340188336
fuck that loser.
Too little too late. His influence has already poisoned at least two of their most powerful franchises and too many key players are already gone. Blizzard's illness is terminal, but I'd be a fool if I didn't take the opportunity now to say, in all sincerity, fuck that loser.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340190843
blizzard overwatch forums are like reddit with up and downvotes
what a piece of shit company
can't quit what doesn't exist. He probably woke up realizing his desk was at a place officially named Activision
Que se joda ese perdedor
>>340188336
>Is Blizzard finally saved?
Metzen is still there so no
>>340190843
>don't get your hopes up too high, this game is shit
>p-p-please buy the game anyways
>>340188336
finally good news
and another big name leaves blizzard
what is it with people quitting blizzard recently?
>>340188336
ill miss him
the d3 RMAH was great, got myself a new computer and a bunch of other shit just by exploiting shit and selling to retards
more games need an RMAH
>>340191667
A community manager can't possibly say "game is shit, don't buy it".
Not sure if he was the bad guy
fuck that loser
>>340188336
i never player any Blizzard games except Overwatch, so literally who?
fuck that loser.
>announces sudden departure the week of
Yep. Fired.
I'd say Blizzards saved but they took all the garbage he peddled in d3 and addedit to their microtrans strategy. Even worse, he was a hiring manager for Blizzards already weak design team. The people he recruited will continue damning their games for decades.
>>340191693
Same reason a lot of people left valve recently, company old timers got old.
THANK FUCK
>>340191693
The company is going to shit.
They haven't made good games in years. They sold a reskin of tf2 on name alone. They won't be able to do that much longer.
>>340189685
>has WoW or Diablo3 on their resume.
What if they're listed for art or sound?
WoW's music and sound are still amazing, and the concept art is fucking awesome.
Activision will shut them down, and use the money to buy Ubisoft
>>340192003
they got old so they leave the company to go to another company?
because they got old?
>>340192093
What's the story behind this?
>>340192434
People leaving Blizzard usually get a higher position at a lesser studio. Like from designer to lead designer.
Launch D3 and WoD
Those are some credentials
>>340189778
>1 year sub
>free
Thats $180.
People willingly paid 180 dollars for "free" Diablo 3.
Its marketing genius.
>>340192514
Literally 3 posts above, anon.
Creator for Diablo 2 criticizes Diablo 3, so D3 devs to apeshit.
>>340192514
One of the creators of Dialbo Motherfucking 2 made some comments on Diablo 3 (nothing trollish you can look it up) and this guy who basically copied everything about Diablo 2 called him a loser.
>>340191890
What did David Brevik do?
>>340192679
Yeah sorry i didn't saw that post. Fuck that loser.
>>340188336
>and in the game industry
kek not even the mobile studios will hire you after fucking up Diablo and WoW.
>>340189778
It didn't fix anything. It applied a ton of bandage on top of a rotting desecrated corpse. It's bearable now, but you can't call "+6000% damage set bonus" as a fix to anything.
>>340192653
It's free if you were planning to play WoW in the first place.
>>340192517
but that sounds risky
why not stay with the titan that is blizzard rather than to risk working for a small developer that might not become very successful?
>>340188336
>ruining Diablo 3
>implying
>>340192725
He killed a bunch of kids in Norway.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340192514
David Brevik, who was launching that Marvel diablo-like at the time, was interviewed, and during that was asked about Diablo 3 (which had also recently launched). He said he probably wouldn't have made some of the decisions that the Diablo 3 team made ... basically a really light off-hand "oh, well, my opinion differs" type of thing.
Jay Wilson reacted as if it was a giant shit on Diablo 3, and basically threw a fit
Just fuck that loser up.
>>340188336
can someone explain to me what he did ? never heard of that guy before
FUCK THAT LOSER
>>340192885
fuck that loser
>>340192774
Odds are most people werent going to keep playing for a year straight but they figured "oh ill get a game! Sure lock me in!"
If you planned to take a break somewhere in there and did the deal anyways at some point you just gave blizz free money.
Guaranteed 12 months of money for Blizz.
>>340192774
but in reality, a lot of people didn't play wow all those 12 months, or even just 6 months
I got the annual pass and I took an 8 month break shortly after
you don't know whether you're gonna want to keep playing the game tomorrow
1 year is a long time
and it was cataclysm, the worst expansion, before they released warlords of draenor
>>340193041
You do know if you have a raiding guild with people who you've been friends with for 6 years.
>>340189660
Diablo 3 was gonna sell well no matter what, it doesn't matter how bad it was gonna be
>>340193035
You could actually cancel your sub while losing access to d3.
>>340192757
Why should they? If you can fuck up ironclad AAA blockbusters nobody can trust you with a barely marketable mobage project.
>>340193129
I bet EVERYONE who plays WoW has one of those, huh?
>>340188951
check his twit, there are waves of fags sucking his dick
>>340188336
Fuck that loser
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340193250
Well, that was my situation. I'm sure others are capable of making a decision for themselves whether they want to pay for WoW or not.
>>340193278
>twit
fuck those losers
FUCK
THAT
LOSER
fuck that loser
>>340188336
this guy wanted to be a writer? i hope to god, for the sake of literature as a whole, that he wasn't responsible for diablo 3's story. even a kid could have written that better
>>340193278
Blizzard has some of the most dedicated sycophants in the industry.
>>340193129
I've raided with people for years and I quit WoW last year
I know people who have raided with people for years and they have quit WoW
and if you stay with the game just cause your friends are playing, no matter how shit the game is, I feel sorry for you
how about you go outside and do something there with your friends? or play a good game instead
>>340193278
>waves of fags
And he'll be missed by absolutely no one that is a decent human being.
>, and
You americans are so funny.
>>340193476
he was the goddamn director, the one responsible for the story.
>>340193476
wondering if something of him was ever published
other than him deving the blood games
>fuck that loser
>>340193585
why does grammar trigger you beef wellingtons so much?
JUST
>>340193714
FUCK
>>340193763
THAT
>>340193035
I knew a lot of people who weren't interested in Diablo at all, and just did it for the mount you get in WoW.
Speaking of, they really should have capitalized on that like FF14 did. Unique rewards given only to people who have some total amount of time subbed. That would really jew out some free money for them.
that loser fuck
>>340193838
KINGZ
>>340188336
There was a time I would have defended plenty of his/his team's decisions regarding Diablo 3. But then "fuck that loser" happened.
Fuck that loser.
>>340190843
Please buy the game?
>>340193905
I REALIZE
>>340188336
Fuck that loser!
He was one of the biggest assholes working for a company with an aggressive anti-consumer perspective.
>>340188336
The expansion after Legion might actually be good since his failure moron hands won't be all over it
>>340189876
Fuck you asshole
>>340190843
I get his point of not getting your hopes up, I think it's clever to never have too high expectations, but from a marketing perspective, that is a horrible thing to say
but that shows why marketing is such bullshit
>>340192961
Weeeeell, he was responsible for Diablo 3. As in, the launch version. Real money auctionhouse, shipped out the door in a broken state. Glitches galore.
He was also the guy in charge of World of Warcraft: Legion. Which is in a completely broken state at the moment, and will likely ship out the door as lackluster as WoD.
>>340194286
He probably had initial hands in it at least, since they start production one expansion ahead of time.
>>340192434
>>340192517
>>340192853
In Blizzard's case, they no longer needed this guy to operate as a designer, so they found ways to make him redundant and force resignation. This is a silicon valley mentality, and part of that whole revolving door employment thing Netflix has been parading around like it's the second coming of business-christ.
In Valve's case, that company is a shit-fest internally. If you wonder why they don't make games anymore, it's because the culture has become so claustrophobic and stressful that no one wants to try anything new unless they can manage to isolate an area for their clique and work in peace. The higher-ups rarely let that happen.
The software people leaving Valve likely emigrated for greener pastures with better working conditions, and as they can boast Valve on their resume, they can ask for substantial pay and benefits from any company out there that needs code work done. Game designers won't find work outside of this industry, so that Blizzard guy is fucked.
>>340190347
As long as EA has FIFA and Madden they'll neevr go under.
>open thread
> ctrl + f
> fuck that loser
>38 results
good
>>340194286
How long will that take to release? They already said they are no longer pushing for annual (always bi-annual releases anyway) sequels.
>>340194586
gee, sounds like a horrible work environment
so do you think that's what it's like working at blizzard, too?
>>340194595
>123 posts
>38 fuck that losers
36% of the thread is fuck that loser.
>>340191626
>implying Metzen isn't a god for inserting his mindbreak fetish into not only Starcraft, but Overwatch as well.
>>340194502
ahh shit..i was excited for the broken isles , im a sucker for exploring the new régions of the lore
>>340189960
>moved to Titan team
>after a few months of learning what the fuck the team has been working on for years, he realizes it won't work
>convinces Blizz to cancel it
Sounds like he's a fucking genius.
>>340194817
I did it for you /v/
>>340191747
(you)
>>340194849
It's like that at most large game studios.
"Open floor plan" roughly equates to a giant fucking mosh pit with zero privacy - good luck staying sane or getting your work done.
The people who can tolerate those kinds of conditions are not the type who are capable of doing detail-oriented work.
>>340194960
>make diablo 3
>drrrrr lol xD
>fix Titan
>drrrr lol xD
>fine, just fucking work on our biggest game. It's already fucking done for you
>hurrrr lol xD
Yeah, real genius
Eeeeeeh, fuck that loser.
>>340195658
Diablo 3, and the death of Titan, were massive commercial successes. If I were a video game company owner, I'd hire the guy.
fuck that loser
I tweeted at this guy that I didn't like how he ruined my favorite arpg series and got banned of twitter immeadiantly
FUCK THAT LOSER
>>340195791
>hire the guy
>no brand or budget equivalent to actiblizz to take the brunt of his shenanigans
>project tanks, company sinks
Golly.
>>340194960
>canceled Titan for a shit tier TF2 clone
fuck
>>340195989
>immeadiantly
You must be 18 or older to post here.
Metzen dead from coke overdose when?
Great, fuck that loser. Maybe there is still time for Legion to recover from whatever he did to it.
>>340195791
>massive commercial successes
When will D3 apologists stop being a meme?
>>340196014
>hire guy
>makes game super successful
>on the way to becoming blizzard level of industry might
My theorycraft beats your theorycraft
>>340188879
Gearbox shill pls go
>>340195791
He had nothing to do with the death of totan besides continue being so shit, blizzard suddenly noticed how terrible the concept was overall thanks to his projection of badness.
The decision was made above him on far more criteria. He's a red flag if there ever was one.
I'd hire him as a DOS fps level designer. That's about it.
>>340196124
shit tier or not it's making them mad bank, so yeah
>>340189660
>Why would they fire him?
he's replaceable
>This guy made ridiculous amounts of money for Blizzard
it's only a coincidence that he worked at blizzard, while blizzard made ridiculous amounts of money
no one member of blizzard's development staff is why one of their games sells
>>340189685
>saying fuck to the guy who wrote Diablo 1 Tristram
I do not like you as a person. Matt is a great guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnMR6SOBa9k
>>340196241
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Multi-platform
Name the game that's #10.
>>340195385
hmm
I used to work for a software developing company and I used to be in a very big "office" most of the time, where like 10 people sat around and worked
it's hard for me to imagine it being any different, because we had to talk to each other a lot, and all the other offices were all open all the time, too
sometimes it did feel like I was missing a little bit of privacy, people usually fought for desks that were in such a position that people coming into the room couldn't see what was on your screen, so we could browse the net now and then without fearing getting "caught"
sometimes the most distracting thing was the other people in the room talking though
after that I worked at a company where I only shared an office with one person, but open doors all the time too, but since I was new, and I was still a student and working there part time, not too many people cared about me
really don't know which of the two environments was better, maybe both have their upsides and downsides
>>340191457
>reddit invented voting
Well fuck.
>>340188336
BABYFACE NOOOO
Daily reminder that the Diablo 3 beta shortly before launch was totally different than the Diablo 3 actually released, I think that Babyface has been cukced by some dipshit jew on the upper floors.
>>340196291
No, it just means you suck literal cock to his 0 sucking of cock.
>>340194961Snake eater
What are you talking about?
I play D3 160hours/week and i dont think i'll stop anytime soon.
>>340195791
Diablo 3 sold only because of its name, but everyone fucking hated it.
>>340196291
Diablo 3 wasn't made popular because of him. It has the name fucking Diablo attached to it and sold based on that merit alone. There was an already existing and massive demand for a sequel for one of the greatest ARPGs ever made. He could have shit out a minesweeper clone called Diablo 3 and it would have sold well.
>>340191457
Post voting existed well before Reddit.
>>340196241
Diablo 3 IS a commercial success. It's just not a good sequel, but people bought it a lot. They even have iZombie Liv Moore as a pet now.
>>340195791
Diablo 3 didn't sell because of him anon
>>340196652
Get off /v/ jay.
>>340196291
>hire literally who
>fail to understand what contributions they made to their respective projects
>realize too late they caused everything related to loss of retention
This isn't like hiring a celebrity to plaster their name over the box art.
This is a nobody who represents everything wrong with the games they worked on, and only by the effort, creativity, and good graces of the rest of the rest of the team were they any good.
The only question now is: in the event of hiring the guy for a project, would you subscribe to the sunk loss fallacy?
>>340188336
FUCK THAT LOSER
>>340196234
Nope. Legion is already in bug testing/number tweaking stage.
>go on Diablowiki to search things about Jay Wilson to understand things such as "Fuck that Loser"
>tfw see this
> Prior to joining Blizzard entertainment in 2007, Jay worked at Relic Entertainment where he'd served as the lead designer on Dawn of War, an RTS game not completely unlike
Dawn of war doesn't even remotely play like Starcraft
Diablo 3 is the 10th best selling game of all time
>>340196843
People still play it. It's a fun game. Just a bad sequel. But if you want to kill stuff with friends while feeling like a demi god, it does the job.
>>340197010
oops i failed please add >Starcraft
at the end of the Third line
>>340196843
I thought it was ok, but Diablo 2 was better
I just don't see why so many people are playing it so much
I stopped playing shortly after it released and I haven't even touched reaper of souls
I got bored playing through the 3rd difficulty
seriously playing through a game twice and you expect me to be thrilled to play through it one or even two more times? it wasn't even fun trying another character, I just wanted to play a different game
I didn't want to play the same shit again
but that's basically what Diablo is
the same shit over and over again
even worse than MMOs
>>340196618
>>340196883
It's irrelevant as to what forum came up with the idea of voting on posts, I think his point was that Blizzard's forums promote the same hivemind ideals as Reddit does, with Reddit simply listed as the most common offender of this sort.
>>340192517
and then release awful games like Wildstar and Marvel Heroes
>>340188336
blizzard die already
>>340196809
Other people fixed it.
>>340197112
>People still play it. It's a fun game.
They play it because, just like according to your image, RoS fixed the fucking mess that D3 vanilla was. After Wilson was kicked out of the team.
Good fucking riddance.
Blizzard is better off.
>all these apologists
They are literally selling TF2 in a pixar wrapper with even worse microtrans like hotcakes.
If the Blizzard project you are responsible for has ANY issues, you are RETARDED and deserve to be fired.
This isn't debatable. They can shit in a box, label it Warcraft 4 with a Pixar'd elf waifu on it, and sell 10 million copies.
>>340196471
>your
this is some prime bait senpai
>>340197059
and avatar and titanic are the best-selling movies of all time
don't give a shit
>>340197237
Do you really think that /v/ does not have a hivemind mentality?
Hell, I remember 8 years ago Hivemind was a common post . Hell I even saw it 10 days ago.
>>340197309
>with even worse microtrans
nothing in Overwatch loot boxes affects stats so TF2 is inherently worse
Gee why didn't they like Diablo 3 after I made it just like WoW? Where the itemization is boring minmax garbage? You burnt out on WoW and don't want to play the same thing? Fuck you loser!
>>340197309
>tf2
>8 classes, boring as fuck weapons, the only difference is running speed and max HP
>overwatch
>20+ characters, everyone with a super unique ability, all of them play completely differently
TF2 is like an alpha test for Overwatch with most of the content missing.
>>340188336
Did he drop any good loot?
>>340197059
It's okay jay you can go now
>>340197309
>Overwatch
>Worse microtransactions than TF2
l m a o
>>340188336
Glad we got rid of him, fuck that loser.
>>340197287
But most casuals dont really care. D3 is okay for a single playthrough. RoS destroyed the basic game with the Adventures, which also fixed the game. D3 has no story right now, it's just "Do things to gain thing".
A friend of mine played through it on console and she loved it and bought RoS because she liked D3. As a casual player it was worth it. For hardcore, Vanilla D3 was not worth it.
>>340188336
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>340197309
prepare for the overwatch faggots. you have been warned. they have to justify paying 60$ for that piece of shit kiddie game, and you're in the firing line
>>340197413
Are you retarded or actually this new? The fundamental cause of friction between reddit and 4chan is that reddit has fucking upboats instead of actually contributing for or against something. While people on /v/ have similar mindsets, it's nowhere near reddits "so relatable post" with 800 votes
>>340197321
Knowing that both of them are made by the same guy is pretty important. This mean that this director is worth more than others.
>>340197657
Nothing prevents you in RoS from playing the story.
Actually I believe you need to kill the endboss before you can even do adventure mode.
>>340191667
If it makes you feel better Bashiok left blizzard awhile ago.
>>340196548
>sold on 6 platforms, still can't beat Wii sports resort
>>340197807
worth in what sense? that he's better? that his movies are better? maybe to plebs
>>340197802
This, a numeric value assigned to posts can make you biased before you even read what the post contains. Here you actually have to glance at what the person wrote to write them off as a shit-spewing retard or a sensible person that you'd like to marry.
>>340194378
Fuck that loser.
>>340197802
No. The friction is about the fact that Reddit post stuff that was uploaded on /v/. That's it. We did the same with Something Awful 10 years ago, and we got mad when Reddit did it to us.
Also because Reddit has 100 times the amount of viewers than 4chan and is the 20th most popular website on the internet, compared to 4chan 700th.
And /v/ hate popularity due to a bad highschool experience.
>>340197527
>turn Diablo into WoW
>it's awful and everyone hates it
>WoW turns into Diablo
>looks like the best expac since BC
>>340196548
Console Diablo 3 is actually decent. That was after the shitty AH was shut down and drop rates increased.
It sold well on consoles because the version they released there already cleaned up most of Jay's legacy.
>>340197112
Pic is very accurate
>>340190843
this retard also doesnt work at neoblizzard no more
>>340197059
Yeah because it was built on hype and the success of D2. If people knew what they were getting into it would have sold a lot less.
>>340197831
You do. But, after the first playthrough any new character can go directly to adventure mode.
>>340197945
He's worth more money. His future movies will probably be big successes. He's worth more than other directors.
>>340198049
>>looks like the best expac since BC
But Legion is the second worst expansion so far, second only to WoD.
>more ability pruning
>unique resource mechanics removed from classes
>3 button rotation for everyeone
>legendaries for everyone
>>340198198
>>more ability pruning
>>unique resource mechanics removed from classes
>>3 button rotation for everyeone
>>legendaries for everyone
so exactly like Diablo 2
>>340198048
This, they also killed OC here
No one bothers to make new memes because reddit will just steal them so whats the point, thats why all our memes these days are imported
>>340198298
And why frogposting is still a thing, total stagnation of the 4chan meme industry.
He worked on the first Dawn of War and since I don't give a shit about blizzard since the diablo 2 LoD days he's an ok guy in my book.
>>340197801
Good thing no one gives a shit about them for that very reason.
It's time
Overwatch could have sold 10 million copies but it still represents a failure of what project Titan was supposed to be.
Titan was supposed to be the next WoW. It was supposed to have 15+ million subs paying $15+ a month for the next 10 years. Even if 10 million people bought the Origins edition of Overwatch and 50 loot boxes that still doesn't compare to the money they planned to drag in off of Titan.
WoW is an aging billion dollar franchise. Titan was going to be the new billion dollar franchise to add to/replace it. The fact they had to scrap it and retool it into some barebones shooter is a major setback. One that is still wildly profitable, but not the billion dollar earner they set out to make. And no one knows how much they spent on Titan for the nearly decade it was in development before they scrapped/salvaged it.
Blizzard has deep pockets and can fix mistakes by throwing buildings full of money at problems. But Overwatch represents a huge mistake and a staggering loss of potential revenue.
>>340198186
>He's worth more money. His future movies will probably be big successes. He's worth more than other directors.
that still doesn't say anything about the quality of his movies
just like how much units it sold says nothing about diablo 3's quality
>>340198298
But they did not kill OC. People just stopped doing most OC's because they are hipsters and dont want to do what the popular kids do.
It's like hearing your younger brother saying Yo when you say Yo all the time. You just stop saying it because it's not "cool" anymore.
>>340197801
Anon you need to get your facts straight, they paid 120$ for that game.
>>340197632
>voice packs
YOU PAID $60 FOR A F2P GAME L. O. L.
>>340197309
>even worse microtrans
Hat simulators are fucking shit, but you're a whiny child.
>TF2
>loot boxes are random chance drop
>must PAY to open box
>CHANCE to receive an item you want
>otherwise BUY the item from the shop
>items alter character performance
>Overwatch
>loot boxes are a guaranteed drop every x matches
>can open box for FREE
>CHANCE to receive the item you want
>otherwise BUY the item from the shop
>items DO NOT alter character performance
>>340198543
The fact that you like or not his movies is subjective. His worth is objective.
He make more money than others, and so he's worth more.
>>340198651
>Literal taunts that add nothing
Are you upset in some fashion?
>>340198298
>>340198443
>>340198048
These are some blatant false flagger shitters
>>340198531
Man, I wanted to expend my Diablo chart with all the ARPG's out there, in Chronological order. I might do that.
Dungeon Hunter Alliance was not THAT bad though. It was just... Meh.
Did he ever apologize for the FUCK THAT LOSER thing or did he just ignore it?
>>340198815
He's too arrogant to do that.
>>340188951
fuck
that
loser
>>340198687
his "worth" doesn't interest me, I only care about whether I like something or not
>>340198654
Tf2 have direct item drops and are damn common.
>>340198048
In a vacuum, however, the difference between the websites is liking or disliking. Even if reddit were to stop taking 4chan's content, then there would still be that issue
>>340198815
any apology would be dishonest anyway
>>340198687
>He make more money than others, and so he's worth more.
>the amount of money someone has made is more important than the experience they have acquired with making that kind of money
With that logic, 'Notch' is one of the most important men in history.
>>340198973
But it is pretty important. People with more worth, are more popular. This makes them leaders in some sort. It also mean that they decide what is popular.
>>340199091
I was just curious if he ever even addressed it. I guess he was as cowardly as I thought.
>>340199112
And the farmville devs, who not only made more revenue than WoW but had their game mechanics copied by it.
>>340199065
No. Liking Disliking has nothing to do with it. We used to have the sage meme that did that.
>>340199134
I don't give a shit about who is popular and what popular people say
I have my own opinion
>>340199112
Making money = Success. Success = a lot of sales. A lot of sales = popularity.
People care about what other people think and will try to watch the same thing as other people, and play the same games as other people.
That's called Memetism.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340199370
Do you know who the "farmville devs" are?
Go on, name them without looking it up online.
>>340199272
No you do not. Humans are controlled via Memetism. You copy other people behaviors. You only think X is Y because somebody told you, and because you accumulated experiences you had in your life says that X is Y.
You are a product of your environment and copied it.
>>340198654
>items alter character performance
No they don't.
>>340199506
Zynga. Zynga was also worth a lot of money and bought a lot of assets.
>>340198538
Subscription-based MMOs will never be as big as WoW was. They're a dying market, and had they attempted to make another it would have been a horrendous failure.
>>340199228
No you fucking didn't you fucking retard, sage only didn't count as a bump for the thread. The meme was all about how it was similar and shitty to how reddit did it
Fuck that loser.
>>340199513
Who the fuck let >>>/his/ in here?
>>340199553
They do. Different guns do different things. A sword demoman will do a different role than a bomb one.
It's like hero locking in MOBAS. Less choice make it more pay 2 win.
>>340188336
why isnt his twitter full of people bashing him for saying "fuck that loser" to one of the most important people in video games?
>>340198768
>you will never purge people that purely use appeals to emotion as their arguments
>>340199370
>Making money leads to a lot of sales
>>340199513
Kojimer pls
pls
>>340199657
It also said to the person "I disliked this, stop"
>>340199731
It would be more >>>/sci/ .Animal behavior is science, not History.
So I never got the actual full story on why they fired Blizzard North when it was their only successful branch, was it because they weren't willing to go along with the jews in charge of WoW? I'm just wondering what the unofficial/real reason was for firing them, something important must have happened for them to fire their best team that was essentially the only reason they made it, without them there would never have been a WoW because Blizzard would have had no money to fund it...which I have mixed feelings about, because that would have been almost as good for the industry as no Diablo II would have been bad for it, something something balance.
Can someone at least properly tell me what this guy has done that destroyed the Diablo series? Serious question.
Just a reminder this guy also worked on Dawn of War.
So he may of killed Diablo, fucked the corpse of WoW, he has actually worked on a good game at some point.
>>340199754
You don't get weapons from crates any more and weapons hold practically no value on TF2. People trade them for literal pennies
>>340199849
Money mean it made a lot of sales.
>>340188879
Jesus Randy, you sound salty.
Tone it down a bit, ok?
>>340196547
thanks for this, anon. i'd forgotten how beautiful this track was
>>340199887
>It also said to the person "I disliked this, stop"
Yes, without an actual argument. People were called out for it
>>340199929
Yeah Dawn of War was good but man ... The flying unit were so buggy
>>340199969
Sure, but a new player right now, would be at a disadvantage choice and quality of weapons wise. Some weapons are literally upgrades.
>>340188336
#GamerGate claims another victim
>>340199513
whatever troll
>>340188336
Fuck that loser.
>He won't work on Diablo 4
mite b cool
>>340199916
>So I never got the actual full story on why they fired Blizzard North when it was their only successful branch
Everyone left Blizzard North left way before Blizzard shut them down, they just canned the dead studio after everyone with talent left, apparently it was an issue with Vivendi.
>>340200039
Not really. Saging just made a person feel shitty and then the thread was 404 if it didnt receive "upvotes" aka, replies.
4chan thread popularity is non lasting, but if people +1 your thread, it will go to the post limit and die.
That's the 4chan equivalence of "You made a good thread"
anyone got the balls to tweet him "fuck that loser"?
>>340199639
>names the company
That's like naming "Lightstorm Entertainment" instead of "James Cameron".
Name the guys in charge, you fuckwad.
They're so monumentally important, because they've made so much money, surely you can name them individually.
>>340200328
and get sued by a multimillionaire? fuck. that.
There is a fucking reason why someone slipped in a slime named JWilson in Ultima Online
The guy is a piece of shit and ruins everything he touches
>>340196618
yeah didnt you know that you stupid old cunt. The internet was only made in 2010 when I started using it faggot
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>340188336
Never, ever, we do not forget nor do wee forgive.
>>340199652
>Subscription-based MMOs will never be as big as WoW was.
Why, just because you say so?
>They're a dying market
WoW is still dragging in hundreds of millions of dollars a year off of subs alone. I could only dream of "dying" like that.
Yes, all the half-assed WoW clones had to go F2P or die, but that doesn't mean that the sub model is dead forever.
>>340200356
Worth does not mean recognition on a consumer basis. The CEO and devs were worth a lot for the other devs and companies.
fuck that loser
>>340188951
>>340200314
This is different from reddit though. No actual voting. Actual responses until bump limit
>>340199887
>implying your philosophy bullshittery and sociology ass-hattery is even remotely scientific
This is all your subjective opinion on anecdotal evidence.
That belongs in >>>/his/ where the socjus run their hugboxes, fueled by that mentality.
>>340189778
>>340192653
He fucked up. You only had to be a WoW subscriber. No other prerequisites
I never sub to WoW for longer than 3 months at a time and even I had D3.
>>340200669
Sure. But voting does not negate that. It simply curate the good posts from the average or copycats.
I dont frequent Reddit or Imgur or upvotes websites, but I dont hate Reddit for having upvotes. We have different system.
>>340200274
>no screen shaking
Such simple and such effective way to make you feel "impact", yet everyone ignore it. That's why purely aesthetically DIII is better than any modern ARPG.
>>340200000
No shit Quints-kun
>>340192774
>PS+ GAMES ARENT FREE BECAUSE YOU PAY FOR SUB
>D3 IS FREE BECAUSE IT CAME FOR FREE WITH YOUR SUB
you need to jump off a bridge you double nigger mudslime cunt
>>340200893
>choppy low-frame tumblr gif
please leave and never ever return
>>340200621
WoW is unarguably dying, and yes it's a very slow death because the people still playing it have invested so much into it they can't bear to stop. Now imagine trying to remake that success from scratch. The people who invested time into WoW have no reason to abandon the sinking ship to start again, and new players have no reason to pay 15 dollars a month when there are so many cheaper choices in entertainment these days. Kids are into assfaggots and phone games these days, not MMOs.
>>340200726
It's not philosophy. You have a literal part of your brain that is dedicated to observing other people behaviors and copying it.
That's why you start saying words that you didnt use to. If you hang with friends who say Fuck all the time, you are a lot more likely to say fuck you too.
Memetism. That's how you learned how to walk, talk, behave and shitpost on /v/.
>>340200000
Witnessed.
>>340200837
>It simply curate the good posts from the average
Therein is the issue though. Who is one to say what is the good or bad post? 4chan promotes different ideas mixing, while reddit suppresses all but popular ones
>>340200626
You correlate popularity with monetary worth, and yet the farmville devs aren't even remotely popular enough to be named.
Meanwhile, James Cameron, who has grossed much less in his entire lifetime, is a name nearly everyone knows from Titanic and Avatar.
Your argument is destroyed, fuck off back to >>>/trash/
>>340200885
There is but I keep it off.
>>340201002
>Being this triggered
>>340201197
Aren't the farmville devs zynga? A lot of people know that name
>>340200989
holy strawman Batman
>>340188336
Thank fuck.
Fuck that loser.
>>340201120
Not really. Reddit show the most popular answers and so you can see what is the most common feeling about a specific idea or the most useful one.
4chan will spam a post because it had quints like my previous post, without actual notes of what the post was about. >>340200000
Actually, the most "popular" posts on 4chan will be the most controversial one. This lead to a culture of "I want to be different so I can get (you)" (you)'s are the anonymous upvote system that promote this person to keep posting this style of comments.
>>340199920
Coming from an idiot who barely remember things.
Jay wilson was a developer who work on some SRT and WOW before being put in to be Lead Game Developer of Diablo 3, a director if you will
He had some good idea. Like Skill mods through runes. Inferno mode, which was cool on paper. and one or two more
But the Allure of diablo 3 started to crumble when OLD D2 players were questioning his design choices. like the removal of skill and stat points. Item rarity power levels. and others
Jay would brushed them off saying that their nostalgia is blinding them to the new changes he is doing to improved Diablo. I would comment here that he is adding MMO-RPG elements to an ACTION RPG that needed none. But maybe that autism and sleep deprivation talking.
Matters got worse STILL when they release the closed beta that acted more as a demo then an actual beta test. Im sure there are a few more events im mssing
Then Release happen
>>340189660
Diablo 3 sold because of what Diablo 2 was.
Would Diablo 4 sell? Not after what Diablo 3 was.
>>340201197
Like that other guy said, Zynga is known across the internet. Everybody know them.
Knowing a specific dev or not does not mean shit. Zynga is known for their success and the owners are worth a lot of money.
Zynga is not a specific person. Game companies are not a single guy. Jay Wilson did not ruin Diablo 3, because 200 other people were also working on it. We just take "celebrities" devs. Zynga does not have celebrities devs and so the names are not known. But we know the franchise.
Just like how I dont know who the fuck is McDonald owners, but the worth of the name is extreme.
>>340201591
I will concede and say that there is issue with people doing this on 4chan, where things are sidetracked, but the sites philosophy is still free communication of ideas
>>340201354
>using tumblr words like "triggered"
anything else you wanna tell us?
>>340201034
>Kids are into assfaggots and phone games these days
So bake those elements into an MMO and call it a day.
Someone could have said the exact same shit about "team based FPS" before Overwatch. Hell, I'll do it now:
>TF2 went free to play, everyone that plays it has too much invested in hats and metal to switch to another FPS. Besides, kids are into assfaggots and phone games these days, not FPSs.
Wow, what I'm a precog! Except Overwatch is doing great business despite being the old busted team based class shooter that the market is 100% saturated with.
Yes, there's no big MMO on the horizon. And yes, 10 years on WoW's subs are declining. But none of that is proof that the MMO genre is incapable of being profitable off of subs. If anything, it proves that Titan would have been in a great spot seeing as all the other major competition has dried up.
Now maybe Diablo 4 has a chance of being good.
I have no hope for WC4 since MOBAshit committed patricide.
>mfw Warcraft 4 will have a MOBA-structured campaign and multiplayer
>>340202295
Are you mentally retarded?
>>340201802
>Would Diablo 4 sell?
With the right marketing and making the game good, yeah it would
>>340198654
>This faggot.
Hello I'am the guy who plays both these games and you're full of shit.
>TF2
>loot boxes are random chance drop
Thats a good thing the fuck ? getting a weapon is sometimes better then getting a fucking box.
>must PAY to open box
I wont defend TF2 on this it is what it is
>CHANCE to receive an item you want
Yes but there are specific boxes that TELL you what you have a chance of getting therefore making the RNG less painful.
>otherwise BUY the item from the shop
If you dont want to Deal with the RNG of the game and you WANT a specific cosmetic you can buy it.
>items alter character performance
are you talking about Weapons or Cosmetics ? because if you're talking about cosmetics like the milkman set and shit those stat bonuses were removed a LONG time ago because Valve deemed it too fucking stupid.
>Overwatch
>loot boxes are a guaranteed drop every x matches
>can open box for FREE
The only good things about overwatch system
>CHANCE to receive the item you want
Unlike the TF2 Crates the RNG for these fucking boxes are EVEN BIGGER making sure that you'll almost never get what you want and have to either gather in game currency at a slow rate WHICH IS ALSO A RANDOM DROP
>otherwise BUY the item from the shop
there is no ingame REAL money shop in this game so you can buy specific skins the only thing you can buy is loot crates which are RNG.
>items DO NOT alter character performance
just dandy
>>340202376
kill yourself drone
>>340201824
see
>>340200356
The /his/ anon wanted to say that popularity and monetary worth correlate.
The /b/ anon wanted to say that's not true and cited the worst possible analogy.
(a company like Monsanto or a person's name like Warren Buffet would have worked better as an antithesis to "money=popularity" in this day and age)
Dead argument.
>>340188336
>Make a new diablo game where the loot is a flaming pile of dog shit
Who thought that was a good idea?
>>340202037
The whole point of this is that a very successful game isn't the same as a 5-10 million subscriber game over the course of a decade. It's a completely different level of success. It's the kind that let them buy out their own company from their overlords, and the kind that let them go from making 1 game to like 5 AAA titles in the span of a few years. They'll never recreate that level of success again because MMOs aren't as popular as they used to be. Instead they have to focus on doing what every other publisher does, which is having multiple highly successful single titles. Titan would have been a failure, and things like Overwatch are undoubtedly the future of the company.
>>340199920
He literally made legendary items worse than blue items and replied to people who complained about it that "it's by design"
He was behind the real money auction house
He told one of Diablo 2 designer to go fuck himself:
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Diablo-3-Jay-Wilson-Tells-Diablo-2-Designer-Fans-F-ck-Off-45895.html
>>340200127
>Sure, but a new player right now, would be at a disadvantage choice and quality of weapons wise. Some weapons are literally upgrades.
you do know that MOST of the classes default Loadout options are still the best right the only class that doesn't have a very good starting loadout is the Pyro and medic and even then new players still do really well with said classes
Face it bud you're grasping at straws here.
>>340202603
Dude. Stop being dense. Not knowing specific devs does not mean that Zynga as a worth is not big.
James Cameron is a franchise. He's the company. Zynga is just like James Cameron.
>>340202812
No. Having more choice make the game P2W. It's really that simple. You lock new weapons behind a time wall or a pay wall. This make you less efficient. Are the free choices okay? Sure. But that does not remove the fact that you have less choices than other players.
>>340202445
dont forget also TF2 has trading and a community marketplace where specific items are sometimes found for cheap.
>>340201634
>>340202696
Ok, so why the fuck didn't Blizzard stop him?
>>340201630
ON release there was a huge Log-in issue.
More of blizzards fault, then Jay, but still fun to note.
TO me, Diablo had huge END game problems
without going into too much detail. There was
1.Broken Skills, The Demon hunter Smokescreen
2. Unnessarcy Nerfs, like atk Sped and Atk Procs, broken pots
3. Bull shit Enemy Difficulty and scaling
4. Item Descrepancy, A magical sword you found in 2 minutes is stronger then the legendary axe you had the only copy of
5. Enrage Timers,
6. Drop rates
7. Auction House
8. No Real Endgame other then you beat inferno mode
9. Stats on Items.
10. Cow level., i ran out of things
So 3 weeks after Launch Diablo 3 was an Unmitigated mess. It took a year of Non stop monthy patches to get it to a playable point. When Jay wilson Announced he was leaving diablo 3, every rejoice and insulted him, until the CEO had to step up to defend him.
>>340203105
Proably because he was bad at his job.
>>340203105
Him leaving Blizzard today is probably exactly that.
Lotta loser fucking in this thread.
>>340202832
I'm a different anon, anon.
I'll happily elaborate on my views, however.
Fewer people know Monsanto than Zynga and there's no comparison in terms of worth.
Monsanto also don't publicize themselves, while it is in the best interest of companies like Zynga to do so in order to make money.
The difference lies in the industry. In entertainment, it can be argued that popularity / exposure and profit correlate very well.
In other industries, such as those of necessities and bog-standard consumer goods where monopolies and trusts / oligopolies are common, popularity is much less important and even undesirable.
>>340188336
is this the you think you do but you dont guy?
>>340203448
nah, he's the fuck that loser guy
>>340202684
>They'll never recreate that level of success again because MMOs aren't as popular as they used to be.
Again, based on what? The failures of blizzard's half-assed competitors?
WoW has had a beautifully profitable life-cycle. And your evidence that it couldn't do it again with WoW2 or Starcraft Online, or Titan, is what exactly? Because the deeply mediocre SWTOR couldn't gather enough subs to keep from going F2P? That's not a problem with the concept, SWTOR is simply poor execution.
I'm not going to believe that there can never be another WoW sized success just because there isn't currently another WoW sized success. MMOs aren't popular because all the wannabes oversaturated the market with shoddy knockoffs then died. That doesn't mean the concept is flawed in any demonstrable way.
>>340191890
>shitting on hellgate london
It's funny because I easily put 5x the hours into HGL than D3. It was outright more fun.
>>340203448
Dev of Diablo 2 said that Diablo 3 was not really good and he would have not made those choices.
Jay then said "Fuck that loser", talking about that Diablo 2 dev who left for Runic and make Torchlight 1 and 2.
>>340198157
Why was reaper of souls successful too, why do lots of people still play it?
>>340202993
>Time wall
Are you trying to tell me that a new player SHOULDINT have to work his way to new weapons ?
Most of the big weapons are earned through achievements and it does not take very long to get a few new weapons on new account and even then if they do they're earning it through just playing the game. some of these weapons alot of these weapons are sidegrades anyways
there is nothing stopping anyone.
>>340203702
kek
its funny because i'd go as far as saying torchlight 2 is far better than d3
fuck that loser
>>340201802
>Would Diablo 4 sell?
depends what it is
It would be pointless to make another Diablo game that has the same overhead view similar to D3.
>>340197959
a quick reminder of (you)
>>340197321
Those are both good movies, you should give a shit
>>340203868
>new Diablo game needs something besides overhead view
That's a bad idea, anon.
You are full of bad ideas.
>>340204009
>avatar
>good
Unobtainium. Nuff said.
>>340203105
Oh, i misread that. Peer pressure and group think possibly, They all thought they were doing the right thing. Not knowing that that their good idea was really dumb. their group think shielded them of out side criticism
>>340203868
Jay Wilson, is that you?
>>340203796
It's a PVP only "competitive" game. So no. If everybody is not at the same level, then it's not fair.
Fairness is a direct correlation to what is P2W or not.
Let's rate a couple of P2W games out there.
Dota 2 : 1/10. Not pay 2 win at all.
TF2 : 4/10 . Somewhat pay 2 win with locked weapons
HOTS : 4/10 Heroes locked, same as weapons locked
League of Legends :7/10. Runes, Talents and heroes locked
Dungeon Keeper Mobile 10/10. Unbeatable without money.
>>340197204
>he doesn't know about Adventure Mode and the thrill of high level Torment portals
>>340204076
That's a pretty vanilla term for any material that is difficult to acquire and in dire need.
There are a few historical accounts of military officials using it to describe commonly known minerals that were almost exclusively available or mine-able in certain areas within enemy borders.
which one of you memers was this
>>340204262
that shit gets dumb and old real quick
>if i don't use the set the devs made for this patch/season i don't do/push high level rifts
yawn. pushed into set builds by boring devs making HP pools bigger.
>>340204076
What about it?
>>340203562
Based on WoW undeniably slipping in relevance and worth to the point where they can't even show sub numbers to their shareholders, Blizzard putting more and more time and money into anything not-WoW, and them cancelling the very project that you think could have topped WoW. I mean, you're saying the fact no other MMO has reached that level of success doesn't mean Blizzard couldn't do it, but then every single one of Blizzard's actions is basically hammering in the nails of the MMO coffin. If they don't think it's possible for anyone to do, why would you think it's possible for them to do?
They're making more money than ever by not giving a shit about WoW and leaving skeleton crews to shit out 2 patch expansions while they make their real games. Maybe you should stop caring about that type of game as well?
>>340204262
>Diablo 3
>thrill
kek
>>340204068
and what exactly is your idea for a Diablo 4?
Make the exact same game and name it Diablo 4? In it's current style there's nothing more you can do with Diablo.
>>340204528
'Unobtainium' is a term that's used in satire. Unironically referring to a mineral as unobtainium in a totally serious movie setting is like naming your main character protag John Smith.
>>340204710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk8TEujsJNc
>>340204741
Or naming yourself Mike Hunt in the credits of a porno?
Unobtanium has history and official usage outside of satire, it's pretty interesting.
Check for yourself.
>>340204738
People play ARPG to play ARPG's. People love Grim Dawn because it's the same thing, but better. And that's all Diablo 4 need. Loot, diversity of enemies and cool progression and skills.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340204818
>autism the video
>>340204606
I used to play a game with a blizzard guy and he said the reason why they canceled titan was because there was another game that already fit what they wanted to make.We were playing ffxiv.Although, they did make HotS so I don't know.
>>340204710
I only play Seasonal Hardcore at difficulties that are downright dangerous for my current powerlevel.
Fuck anyone that doesn't play Diablo games like a roguelike.
>>340188336
I thought you were supposed to give a two weeks notice?
>>340188336
thanks to this guy i havent and will never buy anything from blizzshit again.
so thanks
>>340205640
>Fuck anyone that still plays Diablo games
more like this
>>340205010
Nah anon the only people who still play this style of ARPG are too mind numb to know any better.
Diablo is done
>>340205783
>he doesn't make a new toon on season day
>>340188336
>O
fuck that loser
what did he really do besides designing barbarian and making it a boring spin2win class and mouthing off on facebook?? we all know the jew house and making the game a console game from the start was all morhaime, and those decisions rolled downhill and systemically stupefied the game.
well, he fucked now,
working in the videogame industry DESTROY your CV. Unless you were a programmer or an artist, you are already fucked and you won't get any marketable skill to get a job in another field
>>340206087
I haven't played in 4 years
>>340200127
Umm..not really, the base vanilla sets are still really good. Hell, I still use the basic shotgun on Engie and Scout. Actually, I don't even use the Machina on my sniper since his regular one is just as good.
Only one I probably give to you is Spy with his varied stealth items and knives. But for the most part everyone's base weapons still hold up or are even better than the so called "Upgrades"
>>340204606
>Based on WoW undeniably slipping in relevance and worth to the point where they can't even show sub numbers to their shareholders
After 12 YEARS. Oh no! Our game is only wildly profitable after 12 years, not ultra-mega profitable! What a calamity! Even in it's aging decline, WoW still has more subs today than any of its major competitors besides EQ EVER had. And there's no telling how many hundreds of millions they make off of MT each year from that smaller base.
>and them cancelling the very project that you think could have topped WoW
Very few people know exactly why Titan was cancelled, but most reports are that it suffered from feature creep and too much similarity to games coming to market like Destiny and Titanfall.
From someone who had seen the original Titan in action:
>The original "rethinking" delay occurred because what had been developed was alarmingly similar to Destiny in theme and aesthetic. I'm guessing that Blizz tried to salvage it, but too much would have to be rebuilt to make it seem significantly different from Bungie's product (same parent company probably doesn't help).
MMOs are necessarily dead until another profitable AAA MMO comes out. Which will happen when a large enough company (like blizzard) decides to bring another one to market. Saying "never" based on your own personal emotions and feelings is childish.
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340194378
Terminator?
>>340203047
>trading
ya that's my favorite thing to do in FPS
>>340208260
Me too. Second only to opening super dank lewt bawkzez.
>>340205961
Nah anon the only people who think like that are just addicted to Dark Souls cock
Ghostcrawler gone was great. Now jay. If we can get rid of Jeff, Meltzen, celestion and holinka then blizzard would enter a golden age.
>>340204571
Compared to what? It's an ARPG
>>340209502
There is literally nothing wrong with Metzen. The story is still great.
>>340209502
>Metzen
Oh gee, sure lets get rid of the guy who created the whole WoW franchise,
>Jeff
Works on Overwatch and was on the WoWteam when teh hgame was good.
>>340209784
Why the FUCK would an MMORPG need a story?
>>340210309
Because killing baddies with good lore behind them is more satisfying than killing Boss #115.
>>340210309
how could it possibly work without a story?
>>340210309
(you)
>>340188336
Fuck that loser
Someone link him to this thread ;^)
>The day when everyone on /v/ finally agreed on one thing: Fuck that loser
Great, one name off the list. For WoW to be great again, these other people must leave as well:
>Cory Stockton
>Tom Chilton
>Alex Afrasiabi
>J. Allen Brack
>Brian Holinka
And a few others I can't remember, but those are the important ones.
Metzen is only as good as the material he writes for, but as we've seen even his worst shit isn't as bad as when other people try to write for the same thing (Legion, "WARCRAFT"). If he is truly passionate, and the game is great, his writing is decent.
>>340210380
That's lore , not a story. An MMORPG needs a consistent world in order to function properly.
I mean , look at zone/story flow of WoW at the moment...
>>340202117
>Diablo 4
Fuck that. Just reboot the fucking series. Jay destroyed the lore beyond repair.
>>340210953
But there is so much more potential.
>Deckard Cain resurrected and corrupted by Baal to house Diablo v4.0's soul
>>340210953
Hey man , it's the closest thing I can get to an Exalted setting , don't shatter my dreams.
is there nothing Randy Pitchford wont copy
>>340188336
The stupidest fucking thing I ever heard him say was from the front row of his gdc talk:
"What is this huge thing? A Normal ipad? I can't even use these anymore. I used my friends ipad mini for two minutes and can't go back to a huge one."
>>340210290
> WoW franchise
Would you like more orcs? How abuot more Thrall? Thrall leading orcs? Thrall not leading orcs? how abuot thrall brooding he did something wrong?
Face it, he's turning into Lucas and running the franchise into the ground.
>WoWteam when teh hgame was good.
He's still in charge of parts of wow right now and is causing all sorts of class problems for legion.
How he managed to not fuck up Overwatch is a mystery.
>>340203229
Don't forget the arbitrary 10 fold increase to repair rates for no reason other than to force people to farm gold or use the auction house.
>>340210290
> lets get rid of the guy who created the whole WoW franchise
Yes, please.
He is a horrendous writer, WoW is a testament to that, and his own statements show that he is fully aware of how awful of a job he has done.
>>340211883
I don't get this Metzen and Orc dicks. He plays alliance ret draenei paladin. and his fave character is Malfurion
>>340188336
THANK YOU JESUS
Now he can't possibly ruin Overwatch.
not until tigole is gone for pushing esports
and browder is gone for taking game design ideas off the forums
and metzen is gone for making the cause of something its effect, and literally every single horrible aspect of the lore
Blizzards problem is that it's top people are all terrible at what they do
>>340205301
It was destiny, also published by activision.
>>340212243
It's true. No one can ruin Overwatch anymore :)
>>340212228
You don't get it because that's load of horseshit.
>>340212243
Im pretty sure the game can't get drastically worse than it already is?
I mean it can get worse, but drastically worse is impossible
it has all of the worst, and most casual, and most tryhard game design elements that exist
>>340210771
This is one aspect I keep rolling around in my head as to why WoW hasn't been an MMO since TBC. The world is a disconnected mess with so much content wasted because Blizzard went all in for the top and bottom 10%.
Though the blame rests on those whom are still subbed just because.
>>340212545
>I only play mature high skill games like call of duty
Overwatch is anti-casual and a hard game, don't be fooled by the cartoony visuals.
>>340213119
it literally has a console version (casual)
it is literally a TF2 knockoff, except without class parity (worst)
it literally has an MMR system that enforces a 50% win/loss (tryhard)
"worst, casual, tryhard," three excellent words to summarize overshill
>>340196618
source from that pic?
>>340188336
fuck that loser
>>340209502
Real talk, how has Celestalon gone unnoticed by so many people? All I ever see is shitposting about Metzen Holinka and Wilson but Celestalon is the passive aggressive cucklord who is just waving off any valid feedback and even going so far as to just say "You've been playing it wrong" aka brewmaster monks.
It's sickening even seeing high end players who get hired as QA testers suddenly sucking his cock like no tomorrow. Not saying they need to condemn the guy but holy fuck. How do so many average plebs not know this fuckface and all the damage he's done so far in Legion?
>>340189960
it ain't luck
>>340203651
hgl's armor and class designs were kicking rad
shame about everything else
>>340192885
still less heinous than vanilla D3
>>340198531
>disrespecting TQ
>>340198531
Man, Van Helsing and Grim Dawn are GOAT.
Also daily reminder that Titan Quest is getting updated for steam.
>>340215747
>It is the director/writer's fault that servers are busy
>>340216495
Not him but I found Titan Quest boring as fuck, I got most of the way through the 2nd act before I just said fuck it and quit forever, and that was even with playing with friends.
>>340217208
yes actually
>>340215773
>"You've been playing it wrong" aka brewmaster monks.
They were playing it wrong. That doesn't matter though because the way they want you to play it is shit.
There aren't gonna be any monks but windwalkers come legion.
>>340192774
During a massive lull in content. My friends bought into that shit and regretted it. We played maybe two months in that year.
>>340210953
>Jay destroyed the lore beyond repair.
jay had nothing to do with the lore, it was all metzen and boyarksy. not even jay the hutt could have wrote the the hilarious adria retcon
>>340218103
>During a massive lull in content. My friends bought into that shit and regretted it. We played maybe two months in that year.
Almost as if blizzard plans these things. Almost as if to sell their other games they implement content lulls in to WoW. Hmmmmm.
>>340217686
That's the point I was trying to get across. I didn't convey it that well.
For them so say, "You're doing it wrong. Play it like this instead" for many classes, not just brewmaster, is just sad at the moment considering the state of almost every spec in the beta. Sure, some of them might to top damage, but so many of them feel absolutely abysmal to play, which falls on Celestalon and his merry yes men.
Specs like Marksmanship lost so much just so they could "have an identity". They've taken the class fantasy buzzphrase and ran with it like fucking mad, using it as an excuse for some absolutely terrible changes. It's not even the ability prune that everyone gets so worked up about; it's the fact that even with the rotations simplified and streamlined they all feels so clunky and unwieldy. Even with hours upon hours of playtime specs like blood DK and arms warrior feel awful and unfinished even when played on the PvP realm with maxed out artifacts.
If people don't know who Celestalon is now, they will in weeks following Legion.
>>340217576
how the fuck
>>340190843
>Sixth Sense was amazing
>Unbreakable had it's MOMENTS
>implies Signs was somehow bad
Shit taste/5
>>340220123
Director literally means he leads the project. If there are technical problems, he should be aware of them. He is also responsible for setting deadlines.
>>340218398
>The Lord of Terror is now a female with an hourglass bodyshape and boobs
Kill me.
>>340188336
Thank God.
Could we get some celebratory music sticky up on /v/ when he finally leaves?
>>340221857
>the lord of terror takes the form of the body he inhabits
oh no the LORE
with Leah dead diablo 4 is free to take any form he wants
>>340218398
I just want to live in the timeline where Blizzard North remains and continues to make actual good games.
>>340198531
Where the fuck is NOX? I know it's a bit more linear, but it's still a good game.
>>340222231
I'm always astonished by the stupidity your kind of people come up with.
In your tiny mind that can't think more than one step ahead you truly think that if Diablo is a female in Diablo 3 it's because of Leah, a fictional character that isn't even in the previous games, instead of a voluntary artistic design choice made by a team of people.
>>340222350
>blizzard north
spoilers: they're now calledArenanetand are making amazing masterpieces likeGuild Wars 2
>>340222917
it was a voluntary artistic design choice to make diablo's final form malleable and pliable to resemble the form of the creature he inhabits that was chosen by the writers.
>>340197657
As someone that plays diablo 3 ros for about 20-30 minutes a day It's way way better than launch.
Why are gamers so toxic?
>>340188336who?
>>340223245
You're so fucking retarded it hurts.
It's a real shame that Jay "fuck that loser" Wilson didn't off himself instead of quitting.
>>340204534
Most of my guild is consitant of 30+ year olds who don't know what memes are nor do they know of 4chan, and almost every one of them doesn't like Jay wilson for that reason.
>>340200654
That's Simon from the Yogscast tho
>>340221857
Huh, I hadn't actually realized this until you brought it up and I've got hundreds of hours into the game. I just figured s/he was shaped like an alien(from alien/s) mixed with a dinosaur, but now that you mention it yea, that isn't the diablo from d2.
But I might be willing to agree that the root of evil is women and thus diablo should be a girl. I think we can agree that god (the ruler of the heavens in d3 I guess?) is the real boss and diablo is just a shitter in comparison. So heaven ruled by man, goes and beats up all the daemons and then their female master.
>fuck that loser
Did I miss something?
>>340224012
The director of Diablo 2 had some interview about Diablo 3 where he said he would have done some things differently and stuff like that, nothing overtly negative and a bunch of the devs from D3 including Jay threw a shitfit on FB and it got screencapped.
"Fuck that loser" was posted by Jay himself if I remember correctly.
>>340224485
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WOULDN'T PUT IN A REAL MONEY AUCTION HOUSE!
For fucking real, using diablo 3 as a test bed for rolling raw cash transactions into wow.
>>340201802
>Would Diablo 4 sell
the teenagers who played Diablo 2 (1999), who became grown adults who played Diablo 3 (2012), are going to be well past video game age if Blizzard keep D3 going as long as they kept D2 alive.
>>340225228
>well past video game age
>implying something like that exists
>>340225228
>are going to be well past video game age if Blizzard keep D3 going as long as they kept D2 alive
I really hope they don't D3 just isn't fun to play post-game for long even with Seasons and shit. Unless they make a new expansion that can give us another class or two and fix that problem, else I'd rather them just can D3 and try again with D4 .
>>340203868
>I'm more of an idea guy
>>340225565
There is literally nothing wrong with being an idea guy, as long as you have useful skills like art or programming.
>>340223632
I've been trying to decipher what you are trying to say. Its either:
1. You think the Diablo from the Blizzard Entertainment Diablo franchise is a real entity, the real lord of actual terror, and his appearance as a wasplike monster with feminine features is his new permanent form that he himself chose permanently, which you are opposed to.
or
2. Blizzard entertainment has fictionally created a fictional character who used to have one fictional form, and then in another instance the fiction writers of this fictional story chose a DIFFERENT form that you do not like,
but then for some reason they are now forbidden from choosing any other form for the next iteration, despite the original change having no explanation and no fucking rules preventing them from doing so.
Autism
>>340188336
FUCK THAT LOSER
> “Sad to say after 10 of the best years of my life this will be my last week at Blizzard, and in the games industry,” Wilson wrote. “I'm leaving to pursue my original passion, writing. It's what I was doing when I fell into this job, and I've always wanted to return to it.”
Whoa. His true passion is writing? And he allowed D3 to happen? Seems like he will have a very hard time out there.
Also :^)
>F*ck that loser
Any of you fags watching the Warcraft premier stream? This shit is hilarious. All these awkward nerds trying to shill the movie.
i think posting fuck that loser on his twitter gets you automaticly blocked
>>340198815
Apparently he did. You can look it up.
He's still a fag though.
top kek
A lot of the responses to on his tweeter are hilarious.
He started answering a lot when some were up on his dick, but right after when everyone shits on him he just stopped responding.
>>340213526
>Blizzard copy pasting shit and polishing it
At leas they copy pasted it right 10 years ago. Not even that now.
So?
>>340197010
>Lead designer of dawn of war
Wait what? He cant be that bad then
>>340227508
he answered
>>340227820
>>340227820
thats a good burn
>>340227918
That's the only he answered I think, the rest of him getting shit are left alone.
>>340228042
Signal boost me then fuck that loser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
FTL
>Overwatch has sold more than 7 million copies already
N-nobody will buy it guys It's just a TF2 clone
>>340228907
sc2, d3, and overwatch have been huge commercial successes in terms of initial sales. Sc2 and d3 have fallen hugely off the bandwagon for returning players, however, with LOTV selling less than HOTS.
So, it's curious to see how much staying power overhype will have, largely depending on how fast they update and how much people ACTUALLY enjoy it instead of just ironically shit post playing it or w/e the fuck they are doing.
>>340190843
Please tell me this is fake.
>>340229106
My butthurt has known no bounds ever since I played SC2. Fuck paying for any of the expansions.
No. Legion is already ruined.
>>340209502
>reforging gone
was there every a reason for this? When you've got shit like Versatility that's borderline useless and most classes have a godlike stat that determines everything, why did they get rid of the ability to make shitty gear slightly less shitty?
>>340229954
They wanted to make upgrades worth something instead of spending 400 gold to refogre everytime you got an non-optimal piece.
Then they fucked up and added versa for whatever reason when it was only useful as a (bad) pvp stat.
It's not like they don't fuck up geared every expansion in somewhay. They hate the idea of a simple upgrade gear path yet everyone does it cause there is clearly a preferd stat setup for every spec.
>>340229954
Because average players performed 5-10% better than ultimate shitters who couldn't even google "<spec> secondary stat priority" which isn't allowed in Everyone Is a Winner Casualville
>>340215773
Celestalon sticks to twitter too much and doesn't even bother to read any forums be it offical or where the theorycrafters hang out.
The guy is basiclly living under a rock and using twitter as a shield for limited communication.
>>340193278
As much as people complain about the internet being full of people that will get unreasonably angry and aggressive over anything, they never mention that it's also full of asskissers that will defend anything.
>>340197549
>8 classes
>>340196471
Excellent 9gag image
>your
>>340209459
>Dark Souls bad
It is literally better than anything Blizzard shat out in the last 10 years.
>Overhype is casual cancer. Literally shilled to death.
>D3 is a trainwreck, regardless of late Expand improvements. The damage is fucking done. never again.
>WoW's "creative team" with their "lack of resources" killed the game it was loved for. Raping it's lore, need to progress, need to group, and need to interect with new people.
>SC2's story, and characters reworked to generic lifeless predictable shells.
Dark Souls has more play love than any of these "wastes of time" simulators can offer. Dark Souls is actually fun to play, and when feel rewarding when you actually succeed at challenges without over leveling by figuring out patterns.
>>340189816
nope, nobody said that.
>>340232996
Punch-out is a better Dark Souls.
>>340198570
why is the estimated time two dots
>>340234356
In Punch-Out I don't get to use a wheel with a skeleton wrapped around it as a shield.
>>340188336
Who?
I'm serious. Never heard of him.
>>340234743
Director of Vanilla Diablo 3
>>340234886
Oh. So who cares?
>>340235049
He's probably hated as much as Todd and Molyneux among people who played Blizzard games.
>>340235049
He can't shit up any more games because he's leaving the industry. Also people are still salty at him over this. >>340224485
>>340198531
>Grim Dawn
It's all the mechanics and shit I liked from Titan Quest but with that juicy grimdark medieval fantasy shit I love. Also 2 handed weapons, thank fuck.
I just wish the caster classes were more fun to play, Arcanist is just the most boring piece of shit ever.
>>340228907
Its a tf2 clone that's even more shallow and slow.
>>340235521
I've been thinking about picking Grim Dawn up for a bit, I just need to know, is there a Paladin Class equivalent at all?
>>340236121
Soldier is Tanky and fun for either smashing shit with shields or being a decent secondary mastery to a melee build, but there's no Clerical classes to speak of
Quite the opposite really considering half of the masteries are maximum heretic
>>340216238
Or even post xpac for that matter.
>>340188336
Fuck that loser.
>>340235259
>hated as much as Todd
people actually do this?
>>340236834
>YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
>you can't do anything
>>340236652
>half of the masteries are maximum heretic
I like Death Knights/Dark Knight/Anti-Paladins too so that works.
>ctrl+f "fuck that loser"
>70 results
FUCK
THAT
>>340212243
I'm gonna need sauce
>>340197413
Who cares what /v/ has? Your post is still as visible as anyone else's. Reddit actively hides posts that go against the hivemind.
>>340188336
Jesus christ everyone is jumping ship at this pointfuck that loser
>>340239381
>FTL
I need to play that game again...
>>340188336
Fuck that loser
>>340188336
Fuck That Loser
Fuck that loser
>>340188336
>Meanwhile Celestalon recently admitted that the first time he used a mouse for PC gaming was two weeks ago when he got Overwatch
Too many retarded people are still on WoW for it to be saved just by removing Jay Wilson.
So if RoS made the game playable, compounded with this fag being gone, the next expansion will make it good, right?
>>340203651
I never touched HGL because people kept telling me it was awful, even though I thought the trailer looked pretty neat.
I was a teen then. As an adult now I'm kind of pissed at myself for not looking it up more thoroughly.
Still haven't played it now, but I'm definitely gonna be looking up some kind of copy. I'd rather play it and not like it than not play it and never know.
>>340242749
IT was awful. Made by Bill Rope Of Flagship studio, one of the original Diablo 2 dev team.
It was a Action RPG that switched in camera from third person to first person FPS. I cant remember much of it at all . It was a buggy, unpolished mess and i only finished one act
But i did love the item system
How the Item system work was similar to diablo 3. you break down items to components. But unlike Diablo, Those components were use to level up your gun. And when a gun had like like 7 modifiers. Whether it was some Rare quality or Epic Quality gun. You get to keep your favorite gun around
I believe you could also combine your weapons or move modifiers around to create the perfect modded weapon. It was a great system in an Action RPG
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