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FULL PATCH NOTES ARE UP
I HOPE YOU LOGGED OUT IN A GOOD SPOT
>unstained clan mark log

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/197e9c8b2f04efdecffe26bebe43b40551d1e3e8
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What is some dead content they might lock 1.0 songs behind?
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Didn't bother farming up the money for a house.

Happy to see this new anima weapon step though can get rid of this garbage ass Det/SkS on the DRG anima.
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>>340151819
Diadem
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>>340151875
thats where the diadem theme is hidden dummy
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I'm level 39 right now. When I hit 50 should I buy Heavensward so I can keep leveling while doing pre-expansion quests, or does it not really matter?
Also I heard there's some quest chains at 50 to get some cool weapons. Should I do them or not bother because they're outclassed by 51 - 60 weapons?
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>>340151952
Yeah buy it when you hit 50 and you know your going to keep playing. You will be level 52-53ish already by the time you hit heavensward content.

No don't bother with the relic weapon line their only use now a days is glamour you will quickly replace it with quest rewards. Even the i120 weapons from poetics are easy as fuck to get.
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FUCKING I SPENT MY RED SCRIPS FROM THIS WEEK ALREADY FUCK ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>340151952
You won't be able to access Heavensward until you finish the last story quest of the 2.X patches. You still have a long way up to that point after hitting 50.
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>>340152247
The thing is whether or not he want's to get experience from the 2.1-2.5 MSQ
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>Crafted versions of the Ramuh weapons
For what purpose?
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>>340151595
>Anima worth using now

fucking finally, how long is the grind? never even bothered with it before since the DRG anima was so bad.
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>>340152427
Glamour
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>Let Me Be Your Hogg
>Ex Mhachina
>Top Mog
Really now, Koji?

>>340152427
Glamour.
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>>340152427
Glamor and Glow
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>>340152427
Glow for a few million gil.
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So they buffed another part of relic step other than luminous crystals.
Now diadem is even more useless!
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>No dyed Dreadwyrm
I bet Nidhogg's weapons reuse Dreadwyrm models.

>A statuette depicting the dreadwyrm, Nidhogg.
Screencap this.
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>>340152747
>So they buffed another part of relic step other than luminous crystals.
???
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Speaking of Diadem. When a chest spawns by finishing missions, does the loot randomly go to any group member or to the person who opens it?
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>>340152849
>The required items for the following recipes have been changed.
>Pterodactyl Strap
>Blessed Fletchings
>Moogle Miniature
>Titanium Alloy Square
Now 1 2 2 2 per item from diadem as opposed to 3 5 5 5
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>>340152991
Not that big of a timesaver desu
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>>340152454
It took me a few months for my 210 step going pretty casually. Mostly did beast tribes. The first month was just getting rep up to begin with. It can be done in about a month if you really bust your ass though and already have old world beast tribes maxed. Its worth doing now though it will be equivalent to a 240 weapon with 3 grade 5 materia so in reality its probably more like a 241-242 item level. I mostly want it because I'm way over capped on skill speed and the only other weapon without skill speed is from fucking A8S.

>>340152991
That barely changes anything the hard part of the step was getting 20 of the 4 unidentified items. Most people have all 4 of those items before getting their unidentified items.
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>>340153112
It's still something. Unfortunately it will adversely affect the value of doing diadem to sell materials. Now they just have to nerf unidentifiables.
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>Wind-up Dragonet Minion: Now you too can become a mother of dragons.
Uh, no thanks.
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>>340151595
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>>340151595
>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/197e9c8b2f04efdecffe26bebe43b40551d1e3e8

god fucking damn it, i literally just bought a clan mark log like yesteday
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>>340152427

nice. i've been looking forward to more crafted primal weapons, and Ramuh a best
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The only new information about big fishing are the number of big fish and their names. Of dragons deep 2 where?
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>>340153578
3.5
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>>340153630
Too long. I need my fishing fix
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I want to play NOW
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>I bet I was chocolate in my past life. I’m a bear, a bear, a bear, a bear.
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>Dwarf Rabbit
FUCK YEAH BUNNY MINION
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>>340154814
>Wind-up Cheerleader
I wonder.
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>>340154814
creepily enthusiastic man holding his chin.jpg
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>>340154814
>Those "hands"
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>>340154604
>Oh, I think that you've found yourself a cheerleader.
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It doesn't look like it from the item lists but did anyone spot if there's a "glove" for the moogles like the ixali one? I hated equipping that shit every time.
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>>340155460
Why do they make you wear that fucking thing
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>>340155516
Because the item team can't stop making new items where there doesn't need to be any and Yoshi didn't want to waste it.
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>Endless Expanse items
Please tell me these are glowing Bismarck items. Please. It's all I want out of life.
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>>340156185
They obviously are.
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>>340152175
>Not saving up redscrips since weeks ago in preparation for patch.
Pff.
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>just finished my last alt for 8/8 crafting specs
>every new crafting/gathering item requires ALC synth

If it ends up being a spec synth I'm about to make every one of you my bitch.
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>it's another patch with content that's fun for 3 days and dull for the remaining 87 days without updates because the gameplay is so boring and with no replayability value
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>>340156241
I wonder what sort of bullshit we need to do to get them. I hope it's just completing Ex for some items. BEX is incredibly easy to grind.
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>>340156348
They're crafted, you can see them in the new recipes further down. They'll probably require mats that drop from Bis EX though.
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>>340152773
huh? they added dreadwyrm crafted gear
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>>340156415
Oh, my bad. I'm retarded.

It's a good thing I have an omnicrafting friend. Let the mooching commence.

Hopefully I'll have all 60s soon, too, with the moogle beast quests, but I doubt they'll be as impactful as the Ixali were, unfortunately.
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Drac/max pots finally back to 3 made per craft

fucking finally
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>Good King Moggle Mog orchestrion roll

YES
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>>340151595
>I HOPE YOU LOGGED OUT IN A GOOD SPOT

Logged out right next to the Gnath vendor. still need to farm Ravana Ex for the weapon so I can complete my bug glamour.
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I like XIV.
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>never done BisEx when fresh
>tried it once when it became available in df
>obvious things even BisHard had were ignored
>was the only one who seem to know how this fight goes because I read the guide
>nobody would listening when I told them the most obvious shit (FIRE THE FUCKING CANONS)
>then a griefer BLM who would constantly pull after the wipe
>and a bug preventing us from vote kick or abandon when Bismarck wasn't pulled
EX trials never again.
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>>340155460
>Moogle Tool Component Other A component to be used in the crafting of moogle tools.
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I hate how XIVDB doesn't tell me the usage or trade of items. I need to look up their link to Gamer escape.
Lazy pieces of shit.
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>6 story quests
No
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>>340157429
Blame the shitters who skip the story text and cutscenes to get fast to world-first-completion-of-shit-nobody-cares-about.
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>>340157230
Use Garland Tools.
>>340157429
Last story apparently has a long ass cut scene at the end.
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Anyone here have a house in the Lavender beds?
I have enough cash to buy a small, and Gridania has always been my favourite city; if I'm on tonberry what are my chances of landing one and are there any nice spots I should look out for?
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>>340157429
supposedly theres a good deal of cutscene/voicework this time around though

supposedly, though.
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>>340157429
That's a good thing. They're starting to keep the padding down to a minimum. Fucking uniform distribution quests I swear.
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I basically skipped 3.2 altogether. Did the shitty story stuff and quit. Think I was at i210? AST

How far behind am I? Will I have to play catchup to do stuff? Also how the fuck can people stand to do beast quests? Daily monotonous shit, though I guess that's most of the game really
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>>340157429
I don't see why they just don't make it one big quest.
What's the difference?
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>>340157601
The ones right and behind plot #21 seem nice. Also those three in south-east corner.
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Here's hoping for plot 11. Levi is pretty dead at patch times anyway so I think I have a shot.
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>>340157914
BIG
FAT
POLY
TATS
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>tfw only 1.5 mil gold
I'll never have a house.
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Are we all going to do Steps of Faith and sing along?
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>>340157914
Just try to get on as soon as maintenance ends and you should be fine. Although that won't be till 6am EST servers come back up.
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>on one of the biggest servers
>don't even have 2mil in the bank
>would have to wait for a house to drop to almost minimum price before I can buy one

There's no hope is there ;_;
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>>340157914
>>340157783
Thanks.
For better or worse maintenance ends in peak hour for the Elemental DC, so I'll have to be on the ball with this.

How are the new houses being added by the way? New wards?
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>>340158000
I've never had more than 900k and I usually average at 120k.

How do people even make money in this game? Just playing the market? What do people even buy on the market?

Also nice trips.
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>>340158000
you can come live with me in my mansion
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Why does everyone want a howce?
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>>340157963
That's the plan. I'm parked close to a ferry so as long as I go to one of the more middle wards I should be fine. I'll settle for any medium house, but my heart is set on #11 due to it being lakefront with its own walkway.

>>340158149
I sell allagan replicas. I usually make anywhere from 3-10m on a good sale. I used to get Landborne/Leafborne sands but that shit tanked hard. Shame too since that was a good 2m a day.
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>>340158215
My character sleeps outside in a tent whenever people ask me.

Its mostly an excuse to get people to erp with me in public though.
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>no alex theme music roll yet

god damn it square thats all i want
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>>340158215
I want a comfy place that I can rearrange as I wish.
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>>340158215

Because there's literally nothing else to do in the game
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is this actual patch maintenance? I thought it was just an emergency maintenance.
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>>340158149
I've heard mostly high level crafting stuff. I also know people who only bothered to level a single gatherer and not any crafters because simply selling crafting materials make money. Most people are too lazy to level up crafters and high end consumables like food and max/drac pots sell very well.

The only time I have really had to make a lot of money was for my anima and I made all of it from selling grade 4 materia from old world beast tribe dailies. I spent around 4 mil on the items and depending on your server but I could sell the materia for 20-30k a piece, you can get 12 at the most per day.

High end crafting is probably your best bet though.
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If I don't care about glamor is there any reason for me to make money?
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>>340158398
Yes thats why its 24 hours.

Someone in my static also heard they are doing extended maintenance because of some sort of database changes with plans to increase the armory chest to 30 slots instead of 25. Not sure if thats true or when it would be happening though.
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>>340158513
materias
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>>340158513
>If I don't care about glamor is there any reason for me to make money?

To spend it on crafting classes so you can make even MORE money.
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I was fully intending to come back from my 2 week break from the game when 3.3 hit, but this patch just seems so underwhelming. Going to take a longer break. Feel no urge to play it at the moment.
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>>340158541
damn, I thought I could slip back in and get in the mists before the patch, but now im sitting in the jeweled crozier and have to walk my ass across lower la noscea and every plot will probably be gobbled up by then
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>>340158513
Relics
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>>340158215
I don't see the appeal either unless you're buying it for a FC.
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Is it free to play yet?
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>>340157429
Blame WoWfugees who are only playing this game while they wait for Leigon.
which is most of /v/
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>The quest destinations displayed on the map for certain quests in the Churning Mists have been adjusted.
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looks like they added special Ramuh weapons

they're ilevel 110 and i assume have some sort of special lightning glow effect
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>>340158721

>Even thinking about doing the relic quest

Why on earth when anyone do this? It's not like XIV has interesting stats/procs/traits/builds whatsoever. Literally all that matters is ilvl, so it only really makes sense to get weapons that offer the best effort/ilvl ratio. And the relics are by far the worst in that regard.

Just get whatever flavor of the patch primal weapon drops in an hour of grinding, then buy the tome weapon later. Less grinding, same end result
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>>340158715
you can access housing from limsa aetheryte bro
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I'm saved outside my fc house, I'll probably see if there's any new shit I can easily craft first, then head off to check out the new relic bs.

Are most of the new recipes specialist?
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>>340158821
I like Fevelle
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Speaking of houses. Have a story:

>before 2.2 being in a small FC
>we want a house and place money in the FC bank
>things happen and we all switch to a bigger FC
>it's shit (no way to get promoted since only two ranks, shitty FC chest rules, zero communication about raiding including even asking if a person wants to be part of it)
>housing seems underwhelming as a FC
>we go and make a new FC
>everyone pretty much stops trying to fund the FC house
>nobody really forced to anyways
>I have a chat with one leader and another member about buying a private house
>another leader, GF of the one I was talking to starts complaining how "some" (me) talk "big" about getting own house while not thinking about the FC
>a few weeks after we buy a house and I decide to pay a good chunk of it
>later leader GF turns out to be the person to cause the most drama
>only invited and helped people to get her own raid statics
>talks shit behind everyone's back
>left the FC in favour for another big FC, which she left soon for another and a static
>she bought a small house
>meanwhile I got the mid sized on the plot I always wanted and FC was comfy again until new leader got their static into it
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postcutecatgirlspls
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>>340153170
>he doesn't have a8s weapon
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>>340158948

>Literally all that matters is ilvl

Nope, stats matters. That's why the relic is going to be BiS for everyone until the Midan weapon.
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>>340158948
Its actually somewhat worth it in patch 3.3 to do the relic though. The i240 anima will be equivalent to a 240 lore weapon with 3 grade 5 materia. Since they only have two materia slots on the lore weapons it will actually be stronger. That and the two stats are based on your own choice. You don't even have access to the i240 weapons unless your clearing A7S and lost city will allow you to upgrade left and right side lore pieces to 240 but not weapons.

Nidhoggs rage will most likely be dropping i235 weapons.

The only weapon that will be stronger is then the new anima weapons is the i245 weapons from A8S. For a huge majority of the playerbase that is not even close to A7S or A8S the anima will be the superior choice.
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>>340159181
Remember when /v/ had mithra threads all the time? Those were the days
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>>340159181
{high-quality} {Au Ra} {rear}
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>tfw ivalice will never be in FFXIV

>>340158821
that cat got btfo by a lala of all things
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Just spent my red scrips to buy some fishing pants.
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>>340159181
>>>/vg/

Take that shit to /xivg/
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>>340159232
Depending on the weapon damage and main attribute allocation, the Relic might be better than Midan for some jobs.
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>>340151595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k900hqBNc14
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>>340159293
>that cat got btfo by a lala of all things
meme magic always finds a way.
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>>340159232
>Nope, stats matters.

lol no

Ignoring silly shit like tanks putting on caster accs or something, as long as you hit an ilvl you're pretty much golden. Yes, you can mix max with secondaries, but it's not at all needed in XIV and the stats themselves are boring and samey

Your success rate in content isn't going to change just because one of your pieces has parry instead of crit on it, unless you're one of the 24 or so people competing for world first clears in Alex
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>>340158967
i just looked that up and I didnt fucking do the quest
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Has anyone here been playing since before 2.0?
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>want to resub for the story but 30 days is too much
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>>340159312
I just want to jerk off to your catgirls. Please, dont send me over there, maaaaaan. Just help a brother out.
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>Super boss from one game is now a face roll boss in another

Why did Yoshida's yes men allow this?
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>>340159181
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>>340159445
>implying he won't be fun as fuck
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>>340159420

Yes. Been playing since launch, all the way up to 1.23b and beyond

There were a lot of things I liked a lot more in 1.0 than ARR/Heavensward
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>>340159445
We don't defeat Ozma, he's a defense system that we hit until it opens up and takes us to the core of it or something.
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>>340159443
fuck off
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>>340159471
This is an actual quest, right?
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>>340159445

Oh, you mean like near every other boss in XIV

Heck, look what they did to Ultima Weapon
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>New DoH tools as well as gear
>use way cheaper mats than the current tier

fucking casuals
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>>340159305
>wasting scripts or stones on anything this close to the patch
The only scenario where you should buy something is when you haven't maxed out for the week yet have full scripts/stones.
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>>340159554
Anta baka
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>>340159554
s-sure
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>>340159553
Scold me more
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>>340159519
When has a 24 man boss in FFXIV ever been fun as fuck? The only one I remember thinking "That was pretty cool" was Cerberus.
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>>340159389

Bullshit. I can't equip higher ilvl gear on my DRG because it completely fucks up my acc and ss caps.
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>>340159445

ozma minion when?
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>>340159420
I played the open beta of 1.0 back in 2010. I wish that they kept the armor details/textures from back then and allowed more cross class skills like the good old days.
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>>340159569
Ultima Weapon is always easy though.
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>>340152482

>Really now, Koji?

he's done a lot worse
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>>340159637
>The first time you go into Cerberus' belly

Blew my fucking mind at the time.
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>>340159569
Yes, I'm still salty Dreadnoughts from XIII were model recycled to just normal enemies. But I give XIV crew credit for model recycling stuff that doesn't look out of place.

Pulsework knights look like they belong in XIV's world more than they do XIII.
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>>340159641

I did forget about accuracy, sorry. Have to meet caps. Other than that, no, doesn't matter

Also they really should get rid of accuracy. it's a dumb stat that acts as nothing but a check that has to be met, when ilvl already innately does that. Now if there were a way to balance around having lower accuracy in trade for something else than fine, but the way XIV's combat works (combos and combo procs) means that couldn't work at all
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>>340159314
Doesn't matter if its better, the relic is nothing more than a Sisyphean timesink; and if you willingly fritter away your life on whatever fresh task Yoshida's odious mind has concocted then you are a dangerous retard and deserve to be sectioned.
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>>340158000
on what you guys even spend money on?
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>>340152482
>>Top Mog
The memes are killing his hairline and then it'll go straight to his thighs

then he'll explode
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>>340159445
Ozma mount when?
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>>340159636
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>>340159773

>Other than that, no, doesn't matter

Yes it matters. If you trade crit for skill speed you're gonna lose DPS as a dragoon.
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>>340159520
What aspects of it did you enjoy more?
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>>340153170
>It took me a few months for my 210 step going pretty casually.
>months
ew
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>>340159850
Winn 5000 rounds in The Feast.
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>>340159580

DoL tools/gear too

get fucked red scrips
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>>340159637
There's not a lot to choose from anyways. I like Cuchulainn along with Cerberus
Who knows, maybe the weeping city will be different. Probably not. But i'll stay optimistic for this raid because I like void ark.
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>>340159917
Not that anon, but I was pretty casual too and got mine after 2 months of trying. Then again, I had enough gil to sink into wyvernskin maps to just farm the shells. I ended up making most of the money back on mat drops anyway.
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>>340152482
>removes Cherry Blossom a FFIX reference
>fills the localization with memes
Who is XIV's audience?
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>>340159420
Played beta in 2010 and came back in 2011
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>>340159445

ozma's clearly not in his prime anymore

also 24 people fighting him instead of 4
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>That Final Fantasy IX battle theme remix in weeping city

It'll be nice to listen to before I get bored of running it over and over again.
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>>340159985
>Who knows, maybe the weeping city will be different.
At least it looks amazing. Like a complete overworld map for once.
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>>340160112
We already know from the map that it's completely linear
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>>340159762
Dreadnoughts were common enemies in FFXIII too.
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>>340160040
Gilgamesh population
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>>340160110

it's about time IX got some love
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>>340160158
for the true FINAL FANTASY XIII experience
please look forward to it
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>>340159172
What server? Your story sounds similar to how my friend became leader of her fc
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>>340159305
i dont understand the rage. from what i read red scrips are worthless now theres a new token for the new gear
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Is there a better alternative to linear gear progression/acquisition?
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>>340159780
Ok mate, if you don't like the game, then why do you post here? Literally nothing better to do than complain about a game you don't even enjoy?
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>>340160324
You also knew in plenty of time to not spend your reds on the gear this close to patch. They announced the new gear a while ago.
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>>340160324
doesn't that token cost red scrips?
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>>340159181
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>>340160321
Cerberus
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>>340160418
Unique stats but this just leads to items that are good for 1 situation and one best item that people will use for 95% of the content.
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managed to save up 29 red scrips

hope it's enough for something
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>>340160436
You can't argue that MMOs don't use timesink activities.

The entire business model is, "How can we keep people playing?"
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>>340160190
Really? I thought it was just 2 boss encounters.
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>>340159780
You're the one who should get sectioned for being so vehement towards people enjoying something that you don't.
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>>340159906

Stats were mechanically more interesting. There were enmity stats, things like regen and refresh, skill modifiers, procs etc. You had things like Ifrit weapons dealing fire damage, while Moogle weapons had life steal

Damage types were more varied and functional. In 2.0, damage type is class specific. All of PLD's attacks do slashing damage, even shield attacks. All of MNK's attacks do blunt damage etc. Where as in 1.0, a PLD's shield attacks would do blunt damage, while slashing attacks did slash damage. This was important because different types of damage effected enemies in different ways. You could break Ifrit's horns with blunt damage for example, which would hamper his HP regen

Despite some of the map design feeling repetitive, the huge open environments tied with the seamless zones made it feel huge. Being able to walk from the center of Ul'dah, all the way to the very edges of Thanalan without a single loading screen was cool

Mobs had unique AI behaviors that made them stand out. Coblyns would follow players around, Deer would flee if you drew your weapon, crabs would raise their claws threateningly to warn you about their aggro range, wolfs would gather and circle around you with a pack mentality, slugs/mushrooms would AoE you if you stepped on them etc

The animations were loads better, and attacks/movement had a lot of weight behind it. Made the world feel more grounded and realistic

Those things, mostly
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Which guide did you use to grind all crafters to 60?
I used ffxivcrafting to know which leves gave the most exp, but it's still pure suffering.
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>>340160418
Horizontal progression.
Instead of adding more stats (eg. +2 VIT) you add stat augments (eg. +2% VIT), procs (eg. critical hits restore 5% HP) and effects (eg. adds 50 unaspected potency to Flash).
It means iLv isn't the be-all and end-all of progression.
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>>340157429

It's "The Fall" levels of quality according to Yoshida.

He says the finale quest has about an hour's worth of cut scenes and voice work in it.
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>>340160674
I just bought levekits from a crafter
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>>340160712
This would be a fucking pain to balance.
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>>340160674
I did whatever leve was cheapest on the marketboard then did collectables whenever I burned through them all. I spent about 4m on every craft when said and done and made half that back on the materia from the last 2 quests.
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>>340160467
from what i can gather the new tokens are gathered their own way. though maybe they're just replacing red scrips
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>>340160651
I hope they are able to make things back into one open world instead of instanced when PS3 support gets dropped. I have a feeling thats a big culprit because Square basically was not able to get 1.0 running at a reasonable frame rate on the PS3.
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>>340160787

XI and DQX manage it
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>>340160418
Horizontal progression

When introducing content don't just say "Hey remember that gear you got in the last raid? Well we added FIVE WHOLE STRENGTH to it and put it in the new dungeon, so go do that instead now". Make it so all content drops gear that has a reason to exist.

Of course, there will always be sets of items that are "the best" but they don't necessarily have to be from the newest content. In FFXI there were items in the 30s and 40s that were still used by level 75 players
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>>340160626
They can also be found as common enemies on Eden, the penultimate level of the game.

Using the exact same design is a bit lazy, but once in a while I think it's fine. I would love some older monsters.
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>>340160651
>You could break Ifrit's horns with blunt damage for example

XIV needs more of this stuff.

I always wonder what would've happened had 1.0's technical issues been not so prevalent.
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>still playing this regurgitated mess after Heavensward

Wow, a whole new patch!!! Let me guess, it's 2 new expert roulette dungeons, a trial, a catch-up raid and a new beast tribe. Wow, bravo, how do they come up with this stuff? Geniuses over at Square I tell you, their spontaneity and off-rails development really sets them apart!

I love doing the same shit I did 2 years ago.
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>>340160674
Courier leves are generally the best. The gil spent teleporting isn't that bad since you get some back for turning in the quest, double for HQ. If you're not doing it the casual way and making all your turn ins it can really help to keep your gear up to date so it's easier to reliably HQ.
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>>340160637
>>340160436
There's no objective truth; you're entitled to your opinion, and to like whatever you fancy.

But I'm also entitled to an opinion, and personally I think you're morons for suckling on Yoshi's shit-spackled prolapse. Undertaking the relic grind only further endorses shit gameplay design.
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>>340160787
God forbid the devs work on something difficult
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>>340160849
How is endgame in those games? Because in FFXIV such a change would result in jobs geting completely shunned from raiding statics because they're less viable than another one.
It's already kinda the case in the game but if you add random procs, effects and whatnot this will only worsen.
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>>340160980
If you don't like it then go away. No one asked your opinion.
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>>340160847
how much better does the game run on ps4 than on ps3? when they do eventually drop ps3 support i expect a decent up grade but i dont know how much they can do without it affecting ps4
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>Chronicles of a New Era
what is this?
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>>340160993
And no one gives a shit about your opinion. Thank you for your input and farewell.
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>>340160712
What about leveled equipment?

What if you had a system like IX where items could give out what you listed when leveling them up?
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>>340161089
No idea honestly the PS3's RAM limitation is a cause for so many corners being cut. Going from 256mb RAM limit to 8GB on the PS4 will still be a huge step up.
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>>340161062
nobody cares about yours either, faggot
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>>340161061

XI has stronger preferences for specific classes in different types of content, yes, but it also has more classes in XIV, and said content can still be completed by classes that aren't optimal

I tanked everything up to Abyssea with BLU/DNC, which was not a traditional tanking job at all
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>>340161089
Former PS3 player cause I had no PC at the time
When playing it there were a lot of long load times if you didn't have SSD and some enemies didn't show up on the map if there were a lot of players surrounding it, you could see its hit box (the circle) but no monster, FFXIV was also locked at 30fps, really not the best version of the game.
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>>340161062
>opinion

Why do you like paying to have a part-time job? Just stop, MMOs died 15 years ago.
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>>340160787
It's actually pretty easy:
Gear adds effects/procs
Materia adds stat augments

Meld caps/materia slots then become pivot around which everything organically balances; with combinations creating emergent complexity.
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>>340160849
>FFXI being even remotely balanced
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>>340161089
It's night and day
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>>340161204
I mean, horizontal progression could work but they would have to casualize the content so that people don't want to autistically minmax their raid composition.

That or make encounters more random instead of scripted.
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Who /excitedforbigfishing/ here?

Think we'll get new swimsuits? If so I bet they will go for crazy amounts because all the erpsluts will want to get their hands on them.
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>>340161258

The issue here is that XIV doesn't ahve the depth necessary to make this work

They'd need to completely redesign their stats, add new ones, and stop making boss fights a 100% scripted dance routine to make 'builds' work at all
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>>340160651
I miss all of this, especially the skill modifiers.

Also shit like being able to toggle if spells were AOE and cross class skills being the foundation of your class rather than being slapped on like thye are now.

I don't remember, did Lancers actually have logner reach and the ability to hit multiple targets or was that something that was planned and never added
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>>340161062
>Can't handle one opinion

No point in looking at the game through rose tinted glasses, especially a game in a genre as expansive and adjustable as it's in.
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>>340161061

Two thirds of classes in XI were useless and there were only 4 or 5 viable subjobs in any situation.
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>>340161361
>They'd need to completely redesign their stats
They already did that to remove any depth that was there.
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>>340161351

this was really a patch for crafters
we got so much new shit
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>>340161386
>Spell/Skill toggles

The game needs this.
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>>340161531
It feels like every patch is a crafter patch desu.
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>>340161386
They did have longer reach, but I don't know about multiple hits. I never got LNC very far in 1.0. I was one of the diamond dozen THMs running around.

I also loved the way crafting was and the way the markets worked. Modern day really needs a better stall system rather than placing one outside of the house you may not have.
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What? How long is maintenance for?
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>>340160849
>11
>even remotely balance
wew
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>>340161646

Until 3 AM PST tomorrow
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>>340161089
Just to put it in perspective of how little room square has to work with on the PS3.

Anyone remember when the party bonus was shown here instead of in the party sub menu? It had to be moved there because people wanted TP bars to be shown (for good reason) they had to move it because the PS3 did not have enough RAM to show that and the TP bars.
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Will the Red Megalocrab Shell ever get usable?
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>>340161665

I personally preferred XI's unbalanced variety to XIV's sterile progression

They both have issues though
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>>340160651
I want to try 1.0 so bad, the combat looked boring, but everything else looked so much better.
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>>340161361
>They'd need to completely redesign their stats, add new ones, and stop making boss fights a 100% scripted dance routine to make 'builds' work at all
Yes, and?
We're talking about building a better game, not things which exist within the realm of the possible.

eg. Materia.
I'd like it if Materia worked basically like the Grathnode Crystals from Ar Tonelico. Hot-swappable (maybe at the cost of elemental crystals) with crazy effects you need to balance against negative effects (eg. +5%HP/-5%MP), and potentially a class of extremely powerful one-per character or even server materia. Make them sellable via the market, and obtainable from everything between battling enemies to spiritbonding to EX fights to even just buying (weaker ones) from vendors.
If they're hot swappable and have effects like "adds 50% fire damage to weapon" you could even re-integrate elemental affinities (with further balancing, and considerations for THM/CNJ).
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>>340160651
>You could break Ifrit's horns with blunt damage for example, which would hamper his HP regen
Why the fuck did they get rid of these kinds of things? I know they wanted to get as far removed from 1.0 as they could, but they left shit in like cross class skills and the job system despite that and they just fucked those aspects up instead of jsut completely removing them.
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>Final Fantasy 11
>balanced
There's nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses and then there's just shitposting
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>>340161695
i really hope the drop ps3 support by the time the next expansion hit but i feel like they wont because i remember hearing somewhere that a lot of players in japan play it on ps3 still
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>>340161730
>Have tons of things to clear out of retainer
>Holding onto as I level crafters
>Know I have some of these
>They do absolutely nothing
What in the actual fuck? Well there's another couple slots I can clean out.
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>>340160970
It would have still been considered boring, sadly. Its combat was bad.
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>>340161882
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony actually pushed them to do it so it forces people to upgrade consoles.

I wonder if square will enhance the visuals at all with the PS4 Neo that we can see on PC. Most likely it will just be running closer to max PC settings though.
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>just finished every gatherer's redscrip set before maintenance

Only took me forever, are the i170 offhands they introduced for them last patch also going to cost bluescrips now?

You upgrade the redscrip sets to 200 with the new weekly gob tokens right?
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>>340161695
I'm going to call bullshit on that.
Something like that would be a few kilobytes at the worst, unless they're using some sort of heavy class initialization on the bars.
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>"horde" weapons

These names suck!
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>>340151595
my fc had a house destruction party last night hopefully we dont get fucked out of a new house or we're gonna be a homeless fc
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>>340161840
PS3 limitations.
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>>340161882
I'm not holding my breath on that. Realistically and logically they would, but this is Square Enix and some Sony fuckery might come into play. Have you seen Heavensward on PS3? It looks so so bad and runs like shit and still lags.
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>>340161792
I'd love to be able to hunt for material and items in the world.

Sure the charm wouldn't be the same as the VII, VIII and IX pre-rendered backgrounds, but it would be something.

Also enemies need to do something. Anything.
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>>340161882
RPGSite tweeted out that they were dropping support for 4.0 but then never provided any source or anything
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>>340162059
What would they gain from lying? They switched it around anyway so it's not lack of effort.
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>>340162059
They're not very good with computers, anon.
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>>340162059
This is Enix, the company widely known for using uncompressed video and music because it saves on processing power however slight.
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>>340161780
Some guy is working on a private server for it I think I'd like to try it too and if I don't like it I can atleast say I've played it.
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>Decreased the amount of weekly tomestones you get per dungeon. (lore)
Its like they want to kill off whatever remaining playerbase they had left.
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>ps3 limitations
>ps4 limitations
>budget limitations
I just hate this game, I wish they would nuke it again, but the consolefags are way too happy right now.
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>>340162080
HORDE?
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>>340162418
They do this every patch though I still don't like it
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>>340162418
Wait, what? For what purpose?
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>>340157914
>tfw I got called in for a shift that starts 2 hours before servers come up, and wont be off until 7 hours after.

Still not getting a house. My only hope is that finish maintenance early and I can get on before work.
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>>340162147
I've heard when things start getting intensive with spells effects in midas the frame drops are down into the single digits. Its to a point where they literally cannot make massive improvements to the game until PS3 support is gone.
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>>340162080
>>340162491
What? You DON'T like Koji "The Baldening Meme" Fox's localizations?!
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>>340162505
>>340162498
So you get to do the same 2 expert dungeons a couple of more times, obviously. Classic Squeenix game design right here.
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>>340162414
If a private server gets released you can bet square is going to send them a cease and desist.
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>>340162418
just for the old dungeons. they do this so older dungeons aren't worth doing over newer ones in the event the new ones have an average longer clear time
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>>340162453
Absolutely, this game needs another "Reborn" with 5 man parties, true support, and builds, with an emphasis on horizontal progression and doing what you want and still feeling like you're making character progress. Otherwise it's dead in the water, and only mentally ill, who enjoy YoshiP defecating directly into their mouths every time they login, will keep playing.
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>>340162663
I'm convinced that guy worked for Nisa at some point. I blame his localization for me not getting invested in XIV's story.
>Muh succor
>Pray maketh!
>Is aught amiss!
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It would be nice to have a touch-screen for chats/keyboard and hotbar access.

Hopefully those NX rumours for XIV were right.
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