Daily reminder that if you call Overwatch an "arena shooter" you're retarded.
Quake or UT is an arena shooter.
You can call this genre "hero based shooter" for now.
language is given meaning by use.
if everyone calls it an arena shooter, then they are necessarily correct.
>>340148695
It's moba FPS.
3 special and one 1 ultimate.
>>340148695
It's the unholy result of what happens when a MOBA mates with an FPS.
>>340148695
reminder even Quake pro call this game moba.
https://www..twitch..tv/esportsarena/v/69140965?t=08h39m50s
>>340148863
except it isn't a moba whatsoever
Calling Overwatch a "MOBA" (what a fucking dumb term) is like calling Warcraft 3 a MOBA because they both have heroes with abilities.
>>340148867
>if a game has abilities then it's a MOBA
woah there lad
didn't know quake pros were retarded
>>340148863
It's pretty fun but nothing revolutionary or new just a mix of 2 popular online genre.
Battle born is a MOBA MMORPG FPS, a clusterfuck of bad mix.
>>340148952
>>340148982
>triggerd blizzcucks
lmao MOBA
>>340148695
why 'hero-based'? Why not 'class-based', like every other shooter where you can pick from a set of distinct characters with their own weapons/abilities?
>>340149053
What other shooter have ability and classes?
>>340149053
Whatever.
Just not MOBA or an arena shooter.
>>340149053
Champion based is different than class.
Class is pretty much equal but have different function.
>>340149110
battlefield
>>340148791
I found the world's most retarded person
>>340148695
Literally no one does this. OW is a TF2 clone. Arena shooters are completely different.
>>340149210
>battlefield has moba ability
Alright. And the classes system in Battlefield is entire different or are there """"Tanks""""
>>340148952
Didn't Warcraft inspire MOBAS though...like LoL
it's a hero brawler
>>340148695
>You can call this genre "hero based shooter" for now.
Or maybe I'll call it a class-based objective FPS because that's what it is.
>>340149235
>>340146515
you must not have been browsing overwatch threads anon
>>340149303
Those are third person or side scrolling
>>340149110
>>340149053
Overwatch is a class-based FPS, that's simply the truth.
not MOBA-FPS (Monday Night Combat),
not arena shooter (Quake),
not "hero based" (made-up term but kinda close),
class-based.
See also:
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
>Team Fortress 2
>Brink
>Dirty Bomb
>>340148863
Damn I didn't know TF2 was a moba
>>340149295
Fucking 13 year old /v/ posters
WC3 had map maker
DOTA was one of the custom maps
MOBA requires the ability to level up and "jungle" as well as inventory.
Let the word MOBA die you ignorant children
>>340149421
TF2 had specials?
>>340149516
uber
>>340149313
Thank you. I was beginning to think all of /v/ was retarded
>>340149503
So its part of the MOBA DNA in it...
>>340148863
>>340148952
>>340149047
>Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
I don't see anything wrong
>>340149563
Doesn't ever character have that though?
>>340149619
m2 too mate just butthurt blizzdrones.
>>340149619
>>340149619
So COD is MOBA right?
>>340149503
What would you call For Honor since you don't level up?
>>340149619
Except confusing a really broad blanket term with ASSFAGGOTS
>>340148695
I call it team based shooter
>>340149676
>butthurt
>blizzdrone
i dont care, i love mobas
i play dota 2 as my main game
its just misleading
when you hear moba you expect leveling up, lanes, creeps, towers and a main building to destroy
>literally have tanks and healers from mmos
>you have ults and abilities
>the game is all about teamfights and ult/cd coordination just like in mobas
>b-but its not a moba
ok
>>340149689
not when everyone/character have the option to do them.
COD is more MMORPGFPS
>>340148810
but theres only two abilities and an ultimate.
also moba fps are like overwatch where its a moba in first person. overwatch has no bots or jungles or forts and just has a single lane (and lanes only really apply to payload maps)
>>340149736
much these
>>340149698
It's just a combat game
>>340149736
Hero based team shooter. HBTS.
>>340149736
>team based shooter
>every character is designed around lone wolfing around the map
Really wish the people calling Overwatch a MOBA would play MNC for one hour
>>340149719
that's what I'm saying. Really stupid that Riot coined that term yet it's very broad
>hero
why can there be more than one and on both teams?
its a class shooter.
>>340149890
That's not even a genre though
>>340149862
I meant 2.
Eh close enough
>>340149912
>MNC
Mobile Network Code ?
MultiNational Corporation?
Museo Nacional de las Culturas?
Media Nusantara Citra?
Mouvement National Congolais?
>>340149235
You're retarded, tf2 is an actual arena shooter based on quake and requires movement and similar physics of quake. Over watch has none of that shit, its barely an fps as it is.
>>340149563
One fucking special in the whole fucking game
>>340149053
classes are generic people that fit the role while heroes are extremely specific people with very limited abilities to them
>>340150029
Too bad.
TF2 is a MOBA by your definition. It's official.
>>340150082
What? I came in this thread 5 seconds ago
>>340149110
tf2
>>340149231
He's smarter than you if you think he's wrong.
>>340149231
except that is exactly how language and dictionaries work
hue
>>340149907
>every character is designed around lone wolfing around the map
I don't know what im talking about: The post: the saga
>>340148695
You can also call it a piece of shit.
moba you don't even need to aim
>>340150172
>>340150202
if there is enough retards, the language changes, you are correct
doesnt mean that you're not a retard for not understanding what the word currently means
>>340150018
>play as pharah thinking same thing right
>try to rocket jump away from a situation
>end up blasting myself in the face with 0 momentum gained at all
no one goes fast in the game, it hurts
Bait ./thread
>>340148695
It's a class based shooter you motherfuckers.
>>340150212
>FPS and moba are on opposite sides of the spectrum
>one is a gameplay style the other is a view point
are people really this retarded?
>>340149619
And there isn't anything wrong but Blizzdrones can't get over the fact that they payed 40 bucks for "Heroes of the Storm: Now with waifus and 1st person view".
>>340150293
lol nice game blizzard
>>340150296
Genres are flimsy unlike a lot of words, look at music, fucking everything is alternative.
>>340150380
>edm
how about I call it a piece of shit
>>340149962
It was just one of the many stupid things they threw out in their effort to both make LoL stand out from DotA while also degrading it as much as possible.
>>340150070
all of TF2's characters are extremely non-generic in all but name
>>340148810
Battleborn is a moba fps. Overwatch has nothing to do with mobas except for the fact that heroes have abilities but their similarities end there
>>340150552
ults and teamfights?
>>340150371
all the budget went to marketing lmao
>>340150615
Any game with teams will have teamfights
>Game is TF2 but with more classes and abilities
>People arguing what genre it is
Is this act like an idiot day?
>>340150776
To my understanding both fanbases don't want to associate with each other to the point that they'll create new genres to divide themselves.
>>340150776
you just discovered that /v/ is retarded
call the pressess
>>340150776
I think you mean
>over watch is tf2 with no fast movement and less skill required
Makes more sense when people complain, they expected a fun quake style game but got slow casual shit.
>>340150864
Autistic as fuck.
>>340150212
fascinating
>>340150302
Not playing based Lucio and doing wacky wall jumps, crazily bouncing enemy players off the map, and supporting your team.
Can someone tell me the counter to each hero?
I know some but sometimes my team can't function goddamn properly when they are getting fucked by a hero but they still won't fucking change.
>>340150776
>Classes and abilities
>Not a MOBA
>>340150980
THIS
>Tencent blatantly copies TF2
>"WAAAH THEY COPIED MY GAME THESE PEOPLE ARE SO BAD"
>Blizzar releases TF2: Waifu edition
>"BASED BLIZZARD YOU ARE THE BEST HERE'S MY MONEY"
>>340150980
sorry, but mei is most like pyro
>>340151004
you just described an RPG my dumb friend
>>340150895
>>over watch is tf2 with no fast movement and less skill required
So it's an entirely different genre from TF2?
>>340151004
TF2 has some abilities and 9 classes, moba.
WoW, moba.
Killing Floor, moba.
Dawn of War 2, moba
Borderlands, moba
Every multiplayer game ever, moba
>>340150212
>counterstrike the furthest example of FPS
Garbage.
>>340151098
>>340151112
>Game is played in a limited area, also called arena
>Multiplayer
>The characters fight eachother, giving you the option to control 1 unit at the time
>Objective control
>Not a MOBA
>>340151194
>pretending to be retarded
here's your (you)
It's called SHITFAGGOTS (Stereotyped Hero Inspired Team Fortress Action Game Going On Two Sides)
How do I make this thing fun? It's only been an exercise in frustration with disorganized teams and limited variety.
>>340151194
>in doom you play a role of a marine that wakes up to battle the demons of hell
>you role play as the doom guy
>mfw doom is an rpg
>people arguing over what is and what is not a moba
The term is retarded to begin with, which shows in its origin as a term Riot made up. Don't use it to describe anything, it's so vague that you can describe far too many different types of games for it to even be worth saying.
>Reinhardt is rad as fuck to play as
>almost always lose because I can't deal with anything that isn't within hammer reach barring the random well placed fire strike or charge
>teammates never stay behind my shield
>when I'm getting my shit kicked in suddenly none of my teammates are around
I just want to be le strong man of many hammerings and charges.
>people fell for the overhype meme
>>340149281
uh, yes battlefield has tanks
>>340150361
>shooter is a viewpoint
i want all the retards to leave
>>340151598
LOL XD
>>340148695
>arena
>hero
Is this meant to be a dichotomy?
>>340149825
black ops 3 has unique character abilities so it's a moba then by your retarded logic
>>340150980
I agree for the most part, but Mercy is most certainly not cold, and Torbjorn is anything but pragmatic, he's super emotionally attached to his machines.
Does it hurt your ego calling it an arena shooter?
Do you belong all arena shooters, OP? Who are you to make this bold claim?
>>340151191
it's the furthest example out of those games, anon
>>340150212
>Dota 2
>No One-Hit KOs
>its a game
>not a moba
/v/ being autistic again, every game is a moba.
>>340150212
Daily reminder that MOBA is a shitty acronym to describe ASSFAGGOTS like Dota2, and shouldn't be used seriously
I call it a memegame
>>340151826
I would say it fits the spirit of the game that "most people take more than 1 hit to kill" as opposed to many FPSs where sniping is a commonplace thing
>>340148695
Okay Autismo.
>>340150361
FPP is a viewpoint you retard FPS is a genre.
>>340151858
assfaggots is a meme used by people who suck at Dota 2.
>>340152038
t. valvecuck
>>340149821
>I'll just go really quick and farm some minions to buy better equipment and level up
>oh wait..
How retarded is /v/ today?
>>340152171
t. 3k trench shitter
>>340152171
>>340152213
what is this "t." bullshit that i only see on /v/?
i would rather call it a casual moba waifu FPS
>>340152213
>dotard assumes I play his shit
>already fumes in rage how people dislike its masterpiece while he proceeds to beat up his mom and dog
t. assfaggot babby and valvecuck
>>340151886
A lot of heroes have a way to kill someone before they can react though. Either by just killing them nearly instantly, or by keeping them stunned long enough to kill them.
Like for instance, if for some ungodly reason Lion has an aghs at level 6, he can oneshot an entire team just by pressing R.
>>340149231
No, anon, you're the one who's retarded.
>>340150293
So I was not crazy after all.
I knew the game was made to make everyone feel good with ults and play of game shit, but this is beyond casualization.
>>340151004
So almost every RPG is a moba?
>>340151340
you know you have a ranged attack, right?
>>340148695
>You can call this genre "hero based shooter" for now.
you sound pathetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73hmnYWhWM
>>340152272
It's replacing the old ATB.
>>340148695
its a moba tho
>>340149619
>arena
Oh, so it IS an arena shooter? Thanks for clarifying
who gives a fuck what its called.
it's a lot of fun
>>340152525
On cooldown, I'm guessing you didn't read my whole greentext.
>>340148695
>hero based shooter
It's called "team arena". Just like Quake 3 was called arena and then Quake 3 with team modes was called team arena.
>>340152478
The problem is with Hanzo specifically. The hitboxes on his arrows are bigger than the hitbox for his ass.
That's why if he does his scattershot at your feet, all of the arrows will hit and you'll die unless you're Reinhardt with shield up.
>>340150293
No fucking wonder I keep getting headshotted by Hanzo. YOUR HEAD IS A FUCKING RECTANGLE TO HIM.
>>340150615
How are ults MOBA-specific? Every other game has an ultra powerfull super attack.
>>340148695
>"hero based shooter"
>Not "Team Arena Shooter"
Holy shit you are almost as pathetic as those sperging "WoWfuggeees" in FFXIV when they are the minority, and even they are/were against so much bullshit to "cater" them according to assblasted FFDrones.
>>340152038
actually I like dota and league and play both of them, I just think that MOBA is an atrocious term and assfaggots is a funny and descriptive name for the genre, I don't even use it derogatively
>>340151826
While you're correct, that gif is rather misleading due to the nature of the game having levels and items to boost your damage. Lina and Lion's ults are certainly used as 1HKO's.
give these guys a name and they are literally a "hero"
each of them have unique ability and way to play. their ability might not be in form of fixed button like Overwatch but it's something other characters can't replicate. so it's pretty much the same thing
Ovevwatch is class base shooter
>>340152272
It's a Finnish thing that means "regards". As far as 4chan is concerned it's actually from /int/ where it got used more than anything else to mock Turks. Found its way to /v/ because of the WE WUZ mess.
>>340152652
I think the key factor that not a lot of people are pointing out is that Overwatch is designed around map objectives which arena shooters don't have, generally speaking.
>>340150293
well that's nice
how much damage do hanzo's head shots do again?
>>340148695
I'll call it whatever the fuck I want faggot. What you gonna' do about it bitch?
>>340148952
Yeah I agree, MOBA is a stupid name. They should really just stick with ASSFAGGOTS
>>340150302
E is the one with the momentum.
>>340149516
Just because it has specials doesn't mean it's a moba. Is sm4sh considered a Moba because there can be 2 teams of 4 with each character having a special?
>>340153021
nothing
just wanted to save you from being retarded :^)
>>340152896
True. It's not the best representation of OHKOs in Dota. It was just the first one I found and it's funny as fuck.
This one I'm pretty sure is from a mod though.
it's a moba fps. you can call it a hero based fps too
>>340153374
there's nothing related to mobas besides abilities. There are no creeps, there are no towers, there are no jungles, there are no ancients to defend and destroy
>>340153182
Well..fuck Anon.. That's really nice of you. I'll refrain from calling it an Arena Shooter in the future :D
>>340153153
>Multiplayer
Check
>Online
Potentially
>Battle Arena
Check
Smash is a MOBA.
Other Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas include
>Call of Duty
>Pokemon
>Terraria
>Warcraft 3
>World of Warcraft
>Torchlight 2
>4chan
>Professional Wrestling, as long as it's being streamed online
Hell you could probably find a way to make it describe masturbating, because MOBA is the shittiest genre name in the universe. It's even less specific than "Competitive video game" because at least that implies PvP.
>>340153541
I don't think people realize Quake 3 is a MOBA too. It even has arena on its name
>>340153467
that is a dota clone, and they both fit under moba. moba isn't 1 type of game.
>>340150293
Thats his 'thing' though. I mean, why else would you use him when Widowmaker exists?
It was shown in that animated short he can bend arrows.
I think its pretty neat and in no way makes him OP. that is situational as hell.
>>340153596
Real life is a MOBA
>>340153596
The first Quake is a MOBA too. It's got online multiplayer and you battle in an arena.
>>340154063
Why do idiots make these shit team comps
>>340150212
character switching at a cost? whats the cost except if you swap when you have ultimate charge?
>>340154154
So we can make recordings of them and laugh at them
>>340149907
take mercy then go around killing people
>>340149110
destiny
Overwatch is a Cooldown Shooter
>>340149907
>every character is designed around lone wolfing around the map
Very few characters are designed for this. Hell, Tracer is a hero pretty much designed to punish lone wolves.
>>340155031
except tracer literally is the worst hero 1v1 against anything, one headshot from any class basically secures a kill
>>340155221
If you aren't able to dodge fire 1v1 as a tracer you should stop playing her.
>>340155221
Except for heroes not designed to go 1v1. Are you a Reinhardt going solo? Well shame on you, here's a Tracer for your troubles. You a Lucio going it alone? The hell are you doing? Here you go, one free death from Tracer. You a Widowmaker who has decided to pick a corner of the map away from your team/objective to get some free kills in? Well looks like you're going to be a free kill for a certain Brit.
>>340155373
McCree is a lone wolf character and he completely destroys Tracer.
>>340148695
>You can call this genre "hero based shooter" for now.
Why? because Gearbox coined the term for Stillborn?
It's a multiplayer FPS, the same thing I call every other multiplayer FPS
People that use the term "arena shooter" or "hero based shooter" are faggots.
>>340155305
>clearly you arent level 100+ yet, tracers are easy prey for mcree and any 1 shotter, you're kidding yourself if you think tracer is good.
>>340155373
>>340155305
>Winston
>Symmetra
>Torbjorn
>Soldier 76 if he's willing to waste his ult
Aimbot deletes her
>Reinhardt
Corner her, then hammer her twice for exactly her maximum HP
>McCree
Designed specifically to counter her
>Roadhog
>Pharah
>Junkrat
>Hanzo
>Bastion
Spam attacks, kill her with splash damage
>Mei
Ass right there freezehole
>>340150980
>Mercy
>Cold
What?
>>340155305
>>340155373
there is a reason that there are basically no tracer players in tournaments, and its not because tracer is hard to play.
>>340155410
McCree isn't really a lone wolf. He has like no sustainability without a healer around. He's supposed to be on the outskirts of the team. He's shit going solo.
>>340155508
Nope i'm not level 100+ because i haven't played the game for over 12 hours a day since release.
>>340155552
Wow things have the chance to die in a shooter if you shoot at them.
>>340155635
There is a reason why there is a tracer pick in every tournament right when a close game is about to end to stall the objective as long as you can.
>>340148791
chill out there wittgenstein
>>340148695
So is tf2 a hero based shooter?
>>340149231
you looked in a mirror?
>>340155792
No it's a class-based shooter.
>>340149619
>linear objective-based maps
>battle arena
choose fucking one
>>340155734
The point is that 11 heroes have the advantage over her from a cast of 21.
12 if you count Soldier 76.
Tracer is anything but the hero you want to pick to punish lone wolves. You want to do that, you pick Symmetra or McCree or Roadhog
>>340149231
Turn your head away from the mirror.
>>340155870
So Is overwatch if you cuck
>>340150012
Monday Night Combat
>>340149231
see ? you use the word retarded knowing it's not the right definition.
>>340150212
>Overwatch is a "team shooter"
>TF2 is a "team-based first person shooter"
>this differentiation is justified by ammo system and hero switching cost
So I decided to bye Overwatch, if I'll buy used one can I still get Origins skins via drop or not?
>>340156386
> buying used?
What? If the key has been activated you're just wasting money. If it hasn't been activated then when you activate the key, if it's the origin's edition, you get the skins
>>340156557
PS4 one dude
>people are actually debating this
This is on the same level as gender classifications
>>340156607
> playing overwatch with a controller
I can't begin to comprehend.
>>340155552
>ywn watch tracer slip icecubes in to her anus while she whimpers
>>340148695
But there is an arena and you are shooting.
>>340156607
You'd be gimping yourself.
I play on PS4 and it feels awful. You can immediately feel how limiting a controller is when you play characters like Lucio.
Sincerely thinking of rebuying the game
>>340156901
My PC is fucking toaster that barely giving 120 fps in CS:GO on minimal. Plus I still got 32bit version of Windows.
>>340156607
>console overwatch
https://youtu.be/TPXcvEKpIro?t=3m2s
Just do not. I don't care if your toaster lags at minimum settings it's still way WAY better than console.
>Overwatch players still acting like they have to prove themselves to a 9 year old game
Jesus let it go.
>>340154675
destiny is a mmo fps
>>340151340
Learn animation canceling. Makes him a lot stronger.
I call it a casual game for normies.
>>340150675
You don't say. /v/ is 30% Overwatch threads and 80% of them started by shills.
>>340150615
are not moba specific
teamfights happen in literally any game with teams
and ults are in countless games
>>340150895
Coming from qtf and tfc I felt same way about tf2, it's painfully slow.
>>340152954
TF2 classes have a multitude of weapons. Overwatch heroes have just one choice of loadout.
>>340148695
>Caring about Quake and UT.
Who cares about dead franchises lmao
>>340158903
how does this matter?
>>340148695
Overwatch is a fun arena shooter, is anyone else enjoying the arena shooter that is called Overwatch?
>>340148695
No. Just call it a casual shooter since that's what it is.
>>340159534
No no that was too damn obvious. You should have just said:
Overwatch is a fun arena shooter, is anyone else enjoying the game?
>>340148791
You're retarded. So if I call all white people African Americans, does that make my use of the term correct?
Words have meaning, they adapt over time, but the history and meaning of the term "arena shooter" is pretty well established and people calling OW an arena shooter are just retarded.
