>$199
>as fast as the 980/Fury
Why does the 1070 even exist? It costs almost twice as much
>>340093538
To actually play good games, not fucking 2006 games.
>>340093538
>hurr durr why do better cards exist
>>340093643
ntards try to convince themselves it is worth paying for 7.5GB for $600
>>340093538
We'll have to see the actual market price first
So, price aside, how much better is the 1070?
>>340093770
Pascal can't even overclock without throttling itself after 5 minutes, that's what you call "flagship"?
>>340093950
the 1080 is retarded.
Ever since they introduced the fucking ti line the xx80/x80 line has been gimped.
I'm waiting for the 490 since I ain't touching a 70 card after the 970 3.5 gb shit.
>>340093538
Because it offers 980ti levels of performance for (theoretically) only 399$
but its practically impossible to find one at that pricepoint because jews gonna jew
>>340094147
You're an idiot. That was the last 70 card to come out and you are probably too poor to have even been able to try it.
>ain't
Kys.
>>340093950
You can tell English is not your first language.
>>340094126
probably around 15-20% but who knows
Hey fags.
I'm thinking about upgrading my 770 to the Rx 480.
Is AMD being bad, overheating and having shitty driver support just a meme or can I get it without a worry? I just want to continue with my 1080p gaymen, nothing much.
>>340093538
im running a gtx670 and i5 3470.
if i would want to upgrade to one of the newer cards in the near future say the rx 480 or gtx 980,would i get bottlenecked because o the cpu or its good enough to last me a few more years?
>>340093538
Does it matter that AMD cards are more powerful when most games are optimised better for Nvidia cards?
>>340093538
>he does it for free
>>340094507
Driver support thing is a meme but last gen was fairly hot on the AMD side. Polaris will probably run really cool though since this gen is way more power efficient
>>340094507
RX480 will be the perfect card if you only want to game on 1080p
>>340094507
Word, Im thinking about upgrading as well from my GTX 960 to a GTX 1070. I just don't know if my rig can handle it.
>>340094147
>I ain't touching a 70 card after the 970 3.5 gb shit.
You are literally retarded. Yes, nvidia lied to get a bigger number on the box (because that's what retards like you care about), but the card still performed exactly as advertised and reviewed. That's why it took like 6 months before anyone even noticed. And that was in a custom benchmarking tool that had nothing to do with video games
>>340094507
Im in the same boat. 2GB 770 here with like brand new Z97 board and Intel CPU
I just wanted a better card for a few games, I don't really play AAA stuff anymore
>>340094126
The 1070 is ~20% better but ~30% more expensive. If you have the money it may be worth it to you, but the RX 480 is very attractive because of its cost, performance relative to cost, and power usage (uses a 6 pin connector meaning it draws 150 watts maximum, but will usually use less than that)
Basically, if you have the money go Nvidia, if you want price/performance or poorfag go AMD. Business as usual
>>340094634
>AMD cards are more powerful
They're not. GPUs aren't number crunchers, you can't just look at flops
>>340094507
The 480 draws between 95-150 watts and is a much smaller chip than the Pascal chips found in the 1080/1070 which are confirmed housefires
>>340095150
770 is like 250 watts isnt it?
>>340093538
tfw i fell for the 390x meme
>>340094985
>fucking goy you should be proud of over paying and getting screwed out of 4GB
>>340094126
>>340095008
Btw, when I said ~30% more expensive, I meant the $250 version of the RX 480 which will have 8 GB of vram
The 1070 is almost 50% more expensive than the $199 4 GB RX 480
>>340095150
>he thinks a hotter card produces more heat
this is literally high school physics you're failing here
>>340095008
1070 is around twice as expensive, pham. $200 vs $380
>>340095293
Oh there's a 8GB version? As a poor fag I have to say this card sounds like a god send.
I know something will probably go wrong with it though. Some issue that will kill my dreams of upgrading my 770 cheaply
>>340095008
>30% more expensive
It's $180 more expensive than a $199 card, that's 90% more expensive
>>340094507
>Is AMD being bad, overheating and having shitty driver support just a meme
It's a relic. Used to be the case, like the GTX 480 housefires before, but appropriate measures were taken. Now their high TDP GPUs all have the high-level cooling necessary to tame them, and their drivers received a major overhaul some time ago and they've been pretty on-point since then.
But because we can't have nice things, fanboys will never let go of the past, even when their side is more guilty at present. For instance, Nvidia recently went through a rough patch where multiple driver updates were damaging or killing GPUs, and the reference GTX 1080 is the latest thermal throttling card, even after Nvidia tried selling it with this little gem.
Anyway, AMD's drivers have been solid for a good while now, and the combination of the jump to 14nm and the fact that the RX 480 is a single-6-pin 150wTDP midrange GPU means that there is virtually no chance that overheating will be an issue.
Go for it, brochacho. Just remember that the extra $30 is worth it for that sweet, sweet 8GB of VRAM.
>>340094985
>It's okay to get scammed as long as I don't know about it
Fucking cuck
>>340095274
>getting screwed out of 4GB
Again, this is why you're literally retarded, literally.
You buy it for how it performs in games. Not the number on the box.
Again, Nvidia lied, but that's because there's retards like you who will chose another card because "HURR 4 MORE THAN 3, 4 BETTER"
What uses more power, a 660 ti or the rx 480????
>>340095669
If I wait for more reviews and people using them for a while is that a problem? THe only GPU I've ever bought was out for a while. Will there be a shortage?
>>340095784
just google it you fucking retard
>>340093538
In truth to actually manufacture a graphics card is fairly easy and probably doesn't cost much. Nvidia are essentially Intel of the GPU industry... they charge that much because they can.
>>340095535
iktfb
i bet there'll be some sort of weird hardware issue that causes every rx 480 to lag or some bullshit.
but i'm getting it anyway.
why are you fags so invested in which card people buy? Is this shit like religion for you?
>>340095915
i am NOT gonna google it you fucking fag i am gonna ask my friends on 4chan
This guy looks like an Indian Todd Howard.
>>340095695
>Nvidia lied, but that's because there's retards like you who will chose another card
Do you even listen to yourself?
>"HURR 4 MORE THAN 3, 4 BETTER"
Making an all caps strawman spouting HURR doesn't make it untrue.
>>340096017
shitposting and brand wars is as old as humans
>>340094147
xx60 is the cheaper option
xx70 is the middleground
xx80 is the expensive powerhouse
xx80ti is the enthusiasts card
Basically the ti from a series will get you through at least 2, maybe 3 series of life span.
60 is the card you sli
70 is the card you replace every series
80 is the investment that fights through a series or 2.
xx90 was dual gpu's, but it's been replaced by the titans. which are unrestricted powerhouses. at a cost.
>>340096017
>why do you care about preventing a monopoly and countering Nvidia's marketing BS to find out what is actually the better value
I'm gonna miss shadowplay
>>340095695
I don't see your point. The reason 3.5GB is a problem is because it can't perform up to spec.
>But you'll never use more than 3.5GB!
I have a 4K monitor.
>But the benchmarks!
Show older AMD cards performing better at higher resolutions.
>>340096192
>flames
Ahh those were the days.
I love reading these old posts.
>>340096192
>>340096192
that's comforting
>>340096120
You think it's ok to overcharge for a card that lies about its specs? Would you let another man fuck your wife too?
>>340094392
>being an autistic grammar nazi correcting grammars across the internet
How does it feel being a sad loser? Anglos are shit anyways.
Should I go GTX 960 or RX 480 for my newest build. The CPU I'll be using is an i5 4430
>>340096370
YOU JUST THINK YOU WANT HIGHER NUMBERS NVIDIA LIED TO GET RETARDS LIKE YOU TO BUY OTHER CARDS YOU'RE LITERALLY RETARED
>>340096192
>Phony Playshitstation
ha
>>340095695
This is the kind of attitude Nvidia likes to see. They are probably going to release the 1070 with 6GB of ram and see if anyone notices and even if they do, they have a defense force that shills for free.
GTX 1070 is 50% faster than GTX 980
>>340096192
>Phony Playshitstation
makes me laugh every time.
How long before AMD & Nvidia support 8K graphics cards?
As someone who has always been a nvidia user, is this new on the cheap AMD card all that it is cracked up to be?
Is it worth going for a 2 way SLI with these at that low price?
>>340096537
i'm gonna assume you quoted the wrong post because i was arguing with anon who was defending nvidia
Fact: AMD is the fastest GPU in the world
I can't wait for that ridiculous power consumption and shitty drivers.
>>340096483
>Rand would rather play an interactive movie than a videogame
Sonyfags never change.
>>340096785
Power is 150 watts
>>340093538
/v/ is full of nvidiot kiddie drones that will gobble the 1070 up just like they'll suckle the cum from Mr. Huang's tiny asian pecker
Because the 1070 is faster than a Titan x. How is this even a question?
Also the 8gb 480 is 230 not 199.
![Judit_und_Sofia_Polgar_1988_Thessaloniki[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8YUF0cm.jpg "Judit_und_Sofia_Polgar_1988_Thessaloniki[2].jpg")
>>340093538
PS4 has 8gb of VRAM.
Older GPUs like the GTX 980, 970, and 960 have only 4gb.
Will this be an issue in future versions of console ports? I already get stutters moving from area to area in Dark Souls 3 because my GTX 960 only has 2gb of VRAM.
But it seems the RX 480 with 8gb of VRAM is nearly a PS4.5 on a card. You can look up how similar their specs are.
I had thought the 960 would last me through this console cycle to keep me above the console baseline, but now I'm not so sure.
Should I sell and go on to the 480? It would only be about another $75 after I sell the 960.
>>340096647
>>340096719
Shut the hell up, bunghole!
480 is faster than Fury X which is faster than the Titan X. How can Nvidia even compete?
>>340096626
>960
Either this is bait or you did zero research. The 960 is a piece of shit, the 480 will be one of the best budget cards on the market.
>>340096239
how come no one talks about the titans anymore?
>>340096730
Depends
For budget, it's doubtful nvidia can beat it out. Even that performance at nearly half the price of a 1070 is alluring.
But for people like me who don't want a budget card, we want something in the range of 300-400 bucks.
The 1070 is there but I'm gonna wait until the rx 490 is out. Don't really feel like backing nvidia anymore.
>>340096970
Yes. For the love of god sell the 960 it's a piece of fucking garbage.
I can't believe how many of you idiots bought that in the first place.
>>340097091
>>340096970
No because the PS4 doesn't have "8GB of VRAM".
It has about 7GB (maybe even less, like 6.5GB) of addressable unified memory.
Your PC most likely has 8GB of main system memory (and at least 7GB will be available unless you're some normie retard running bloatware and rainmeter) and 2GB or 4GB of VRAM.
This PS4 VRAM meme needs to die already.
I don't care about 4k or anything like that and I plan to get the 1070 (since I'm making a build right now that I expect to use for years) so I can play current and future games in regular resolution but high detail level and do my usual photo retouching/video editing stuff.
Is that sensible?
I don't mind paying a bit extra, but I'd rather want to avoid getting a new card anytime soon so the 1070 seems like a more reasonable choice out of the two.
>>340096970
>PS4 has 8gb of VRAM.
It's unified ram shared across the PS4's APU. Nearly half of it is dedicated to backround featueres and the OS giving PS4 games less than 5GB of actual usable ram.
Post fucking discarded.
>>340097091
I would be mad if I fell for the overheating pascal meme too and lost out on proper DX12/Vulkan support.
How good is the 1070 for 1440p gaming?
Question for Nvidia fanboys: if the 480 is for poorfags and you say that they should buy the 1070, why aren't you buying the 1080? You're not poor are you?
>>340096192
Sadly that image is fake,
"Trolls" and Greentexting were not things in 1997
>>340097089
>But for people like me who don't want a budget card, we want something in the range of 300-400 bucks.
But if they are apparently churning out the same performance, why gimp yourself by forking more money for the same card?
>>340097274
That doesn't matter because Hairworks is more important than DX12.
>>340097330
good
>>340096239
Nobody slis a 960, that's fucking retarded. Your whole post is retarded. kys
>>340097362
lol what a newfag
>>340095293
is there even a game that uses 8 gb of vram?
>>340097361
I am buying the 1080, as well as a monitor that costs more than an entire poorfag build.
>>340097330
It's going to be okay, but not much better than a 480.
>>340097139
I got a good deal on it. $150 new.
I made a small error in my post. The 8gb version of the RX 480 will be $229, and assuming I can sell my 960 for $125 that will be a $104 cost to me (not including shipping and fees).
>>340097198
>>340097158
Still, this is much more than 2 or 3.5gb.
>>340097371
I realize that which is why I'm waiting for the 490. Amd seems to have something cooking. But I'm keeping my mouth shut until it's out since it's all speculation.
>>340096120
>>340096264
>doesn't make it untrue.
It was never true to begin with retard. The 970 with 3.5 performs better than several 4 GB cards.
You're basically saying that you can't even read a review, and that my "strawman" is correct. You go by the numbers on the box
>>340096370
>it can't perform up to spec.
It does
>That's why it took like 6 months before anyone even noticed. And that was in a custom benchmarking tool that had nothing to do with video games
>>340096370
>the benchmarks show older AMD cards performing better at higher resolutions.
That's exactly the point retard. The 970 performed exactly as advertised/reviewed and people could make good decisions. There were no false claims of it outperforming AMD cards in 4K
>>340097452
>Calls something retarded
>Says kys.
>>340097362
It's not "greentexting" anon.
>Quote goes here is how things were quoted in the early days of the internet before bbcode.
Why the fuck do you think 4chan has greentext where highlighted text is automatically put in the first place?
>>340097068
Because the x80ti line is Titan -1% for gaming.
>>340097514
Unless you're buying the Dell 4K OLED monitor, kill yourself. All those 1440p144hz IPS monitors from ASUS/Acer are shit-tier and have garbage quality control. Enjoy paying out the ass for a poorfag-tier product.
>>340097597
That's not even that good. You could've gotten a used 290 or something for a little more.
If I had the 960 I'd get rid of it but it's up to you.
>>340093538
I never plan to use VR cause it's a gimmick.
How good is this card for the price?
>>340097505
Uhh, yes of course. Just increase the resolution.
>>340097685
980/Fury performance for $199 is godly performance per dollar
>want to build a new computer
>every memes so hard when it comes to comp parts I can't tell what's good and what's bad
>>340097654
Quoting was always held in brackets, unlike the picture that was fake. It's just got photoshopped text onto it.
the others look real though
>>340097824
I blame these fucking retards shilling both types of companies shit, it fucks my brain.
Hey so Im planning on buying 3x evga 1080s but now have my doubts. This is probably more a question for /g/ anyway. My dream system is going to be running a single stage cooling for the cpu and a chilled water cooled loop for the cards.
On a related note, I fucking hate how expensive and the sheer buttfucking the consumer gets when it comes to choice and competition. How is it we are forced into bending over for Intel cock or AMD flacid one?
I tell you what's killing PC gaming it's not consoles, it's not the publishers shortchanging PC releases, it's the shit consumers have to put up with when it comes to gaming gpu cards.
>>340097824
two things matter and nothing else
benchmarks from respectable sites and whether the card has shit drivers that will make it a hassle to use
benchmarks you can check relatively soon but the driver issues might crop up later
>>340097824
Budget?
When do you need a peecee by?
>>340097623
Actually, no. People did realize, but thought it was just some driver issue that Nvidia would fix. It took 6 months to CONFIRM the issue, that was when Nvidia said "Woops forgot to include that last 512!" and the whole scandal blew up and people started that whole thing where they were selling their 970s.
>>340097678
The 290 is a 275 watt GPU. That is far outside of the parameters for my PSU. I have a multi-rail power supply which supplies 18 amps to the 12v line going to the PCI-E power connector.
Also I am skeptical of the claim of finding a 290 for this same price used. I looked at the time as I was investigating several cards. There were some good deals on AMD cards, especially the older HD series which are nearly as good as the R9 refreshes but cost significantly less. But they are also power hungry and hot.
I like the 960 because it is quite cool and quiet even when using a reference design card with a blower.
>>340097824
I know this feel.
My PC which was running a GTX 580 died about 2 weeks ago. What with the 1080 coming out and now this AMD "budget price yet apparently amazing card" option, I have no idea what to pick.
This is what happens when you don't upgrade your PC in 6 years.
>>340097824
If you just want 1080p 60fps at a good price get a skylake i5 with a 480 when it comes out.
If you want good single gpu performance at 1440p 60hz or 1080p 144hz get an i5/i7 skylake and a 1070/1080
If you want 4K gaming you should get a 1080
What graphics can I get with this card?
1080p/60fps on Ultra?
Dumb it down for me in retarded
>tfw still using 7970
Purchased this back in 2011 and it still is able to play games with some eye candy turned on at 1080. Fucking amazing card. Damn shame that once I upgrade to 1440 or higher the card is going to have to be replaced.
>>340097824
>using 4chan for PC hardware info
Lmao, what a fucking retard.
Even though nobody here will admit it because they've memed so hard for so long to the point that they've deluded themselves, everyone with a brain uses reddit (specifically /r/buildapc) for PC building info.
>>340097824
The RX 480 is looking quite good. Not memeing you at all.
>>340097452
Literally all you can do with the 960.
Forgetting the fact that games aren't the only use for graphics cards the 960 would be a perfect card for a regular person
But having 2 costs less than a 970 and performs better at regular resolutions. even does 4k better than a 970
>>340098231
bait
>>340097824
>Company that is fairly honest and offers a card for an extremely fair price
>Company that is usually dishonest and offers a card for $599, but realistically you can only get it for $699+
I don't know
>>340098101
Buy a new psu then.
If you actually care about power consumption I don't even know what to tell you. It's fucking minuscule at the end of the year, who gives a shit.
i am just building a PC for my friend a few days from now and he got a quality evga b2 semi modular for like 50 bucks.
The 960 is steaming shit and even if you had to pay 200 dollars for a 290 it would've been a better buy than the 960. Even a 380 would've been.
>>340098343
Yes it's bait for delusional memers like you.
>>340098352
I am sure EVGA will offer a $599 version which will go on sale frequently for $549.
>>340095150
>Reference card is hot
Remember AMD reference cards for the R9 @90/290x? 94c temps.
>>340098116
Oh wow it so simple
>wait for the 490
>compare with the 1070 across multiple benchmarks once the proper drivers are out for both as well as specs
>get one
Oh wow that was so hard. If you're a budgetfag then you go rx 480. Everything else is irrelevant.
If you want to go higher you wait for the ti.
>>340097969
>its the shit consumers put up with when it comes to gaming GPU cards
>is buying tri-1080s
You are the problem
>>340098089
Cards go out to reviewers several months before launch feget. Not a single one of them picked up on the limit because it was never an issue.
>"Woops forgot to include that last 512!"
Is your memory wrong or have you just read the meme version of what happened? The card has 4GB of physical memory just as advertised. It's just that it can only really utilize 3.5
>>340098352
Anon's criteria was one without meme posting.
>>340098207
yes.
>>340098026
Looking like ~1000-1200, but still not sure. I don't need it anytime soon, it's only a thought at this point.
>>340097969
Unless you are very rich, you will regret that.
BE PREPARED
What's the release date for the 480?
>>340098458
That isn't really relevant, you're comparing oranges to apples now
>>340098639
>this meme image again
>no source at all
Kill yourself.
>>340098639
It's going to be pricey as shit since HBM2 yields were super low also expect resellers to buy up a shit ton.
>>340098672
june 29th
>>340098479
Yeah the reviewers do several quick 15 minute tests -- that's really the same as owning the card and playing games for hours on end right? The quote is close enough, they were making some dumb excuse after getting caught red-handed.
>>340095695
>there are people who fucking DEFEND nvidia for their lies
You fucking ultrashills are so disgusting.
>>340098152
>If you want 4K gaming you should get a 1080
Yeah, 4k at 30fps. A 1080 would struggle to play the witcher 3 at medium settings at 4k at 60fps.
>>340098486
>Anything that I don't like is a meme
Face the truth you cuck
>>340093538
The 4GB model is 199. You have to use the 8GB model which will be 250. Add the slight price increase due to AIBs and it'll be about 280-300.
>>340098408
The upgraded PSU for my PC would cost $200 because it requires a proprietary Delta PSU.
However, that is unnecessary. I could simply adapt one of the other rails and use a GPU with two PCI-E power connectors and combine power from two rails.
But, I am not interested in doing a hack like that. The PSU in my computer is a proprietary design from Delta which would cost $200 for the 1100w design which still supplies 18 amps on the G1 line, but also has an additional G2 line with 2 extra PCI-E power connectors. It's unnecessary for my purposes.
Buying a GPU with power requirements under 215 watts (150 from 6-pin PCI-E and 75 from PCI-E slot itself) is good enough. I think the 480 will do this job nicely.
>>340098971
This actually. The 1080 still isn't good enough to play 4K, it's will just be a really good 1440 card that will do good 1440 for a long time.
If you want 4K wait for 1080Ti and 490.
>>340093538
>It costs almost twice as much
>almost
Nigger it costs 499 for the shitty reference and customs dont go below 379MSRP which is without taxes.
So it does literally cost twice the 480x but also got 8GB by default and far higher performance
Not everyone is a poor fag and pays 200$ for a 4GB mid range GPU that sucks ass at 1440p or higher
>>340093538
Why are you spreding lies? They never implied that.
If it's on the 390's level, which is the expected, it's already good.
It will not be at the 980 or Fury's level.
>>340095004
2GB 670 here. Having the same thoughts.
Witcher 3 is only ~35fps with max settings on that.
>>340099050
8GB will be $229, already confirmed by AMD, but what's wrong with 4GB Nvidia shill? I thought 3.5GB was more than enough :^)
>>340099180
You don't need more than 3.5GB for 1440p, take the 970 as evidence.
>>340098582
Oh so you can wait. I'd just wait and see the results between the 1070 and rx 490 with that budget. Coming here won't do you good check out the benchmarks at techreport when the cards are out and make sure they are benchmarks when both have proper drivers out and not just day 1. You could pick up intel but waiting until the end of the year will allow you to see if zen cpus live up to the hype and might save you some cash.
>>340095669
What's the hottest card that nvidia or amd ever released?
Was it the 8800gtx running at 85°?
>>340098847
>Yeah the reviewers do several quick 15 minute tests
There are many reviewers who do in depth shit retard. There are literally several hundreds of them, and most of them use the cards over several weeks.
>owning the card and playing games for hours on end right?
Nobody had issues with video games
>custom benchmarking tool that had nothing to do with video games
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.
490 will be about $499 and will perform 20-30% better than 1080 but about 10% slower than 1080Ti.
This is just my guess.
>>340099184
AMD, WSJ, and benchmarks all indicate it will be performing like a 980/Fury
>>340099425
>banned from AMD events for being incredibly biased
Post a real source next time, because nobody has corroborated hardocp's Nvidia shilling
>>340099332
AMD released cars a few years ago designed to run at 95°, not peaks, but constant.
Although it's a stupid measure since any card can run at 60°or 100° depending on what you set the fan at. Temperature is not related to heat
Should I even bother with 1070 if RX 480 offers enough performance boost once I get rid of my current Radeon HD7850?
>>340099425
Holy shit how salty can someone get? If I were Kyle I'd just stop covering AMD shit, not looking like a block of Himalayan salt.
>>340099125
>If you want 4K wait for 1080Ti and 490.
Not enough either.
4K needs a shitton of concentrated graphics power.
>>340099450
not him, but how fucking retarded do you have to be to look at shit like this instead of just waiting a few weeks for the real numbers in the reviews?
>>340099765
Not only that but his credibility is nonexistent at this rate
Even nvidia will stop caring if he doesn't get any hits and blacklist his ass too
>>340099853
I expect them to do 4K 60fps in most 2016 and older games. With obvious exceptions to games that are retardedly unoptimized.
>>340096615
>Gets destroyed
>Spergs out
Hilarious
>>340099754
Ask yourself this, are you willing to pay twice as much for the 1070?
>>340099450
Give me sauce on AMD saying that.
Spread this info too much and people will be disappointed once the benchmarks hit. Be ready for it.
>>340093538
>Why does the 1070 even exist?
Because it's faster than a Titan X and 980 Ti? At a $380 price point?
>>340099125
>>340098971
Digital Foundry actually showed a single 1080 running TW3 on high-max settings at 4k at 45-55 FPS.
It's silly that companies are trying to push 4k gaming yet we have no actual single card solutions. No matter how powerful these cards are this year not one single card will be enough to push 60fps at 4k. Hell, most of these new cards would struggle at 30fps. Hopefully next year we can get some single card solutions to 4k because dual gpu's are such clusterfuck and headache in general.
>>340100186
You got meme'd. Look at the 1080s power and compared that to a 980ti. There isn't enough power there.
I'm not falling for the AMD meme. 1070 is my choice
>>340099125
>>340099960
If you want 4k you can just lower settings fogots. Most devs choose a graphics level so that "ultra" will run at about 60FPS in 1080p on the top end cards. As long as 4K is used only by a small minority, you will never have a card that comfortably runs new games at that resolution. Doesn't matter if it's the 1080, 1180 or 1580.
>>340099853
>concentrated graphics power.
This isn't even a real term retard
>>340100342
>>340093538
Any reason to upgrade from a r9 390 ?
>>340100113
yes :3
Nvidia lied about the 1080 and so did AMD about the 480. Just wait and see.
>>340100419
>That guy who leaves AA on at 4k
>>340100161
http://www.wsj.com/articles/amd-prices-3-d-cards-to-spur-virtual-reality-market-1464725394
Including the benchmarks previously shown, they say it performs like today's current $500 cards, which are the 980 and fury, youtubers saying it performs like a 290 never provide a basis for that claim
>>340100420
This only further proves my point. The 1080 cannot handle 4k at high settings. Unless you enjoy 48fps?
>>340099254
You sure showed me.
>>340094985
People like you are the reason Nvidia has 80% of market share and is fucking pc gamers left right and center
I hope AMD's 480 will be a saving grace and retarded like you will wake up and stop accepting that it's okay to be jewed if Nvidia does it.
>>340100254
just buy 2 1080, you aren't poor aren't you? if you can afford a 4k monitor then why not?
>>340094392
>>340097362
(^:
>>340100642
That's max settings m8, the 1080 may not be able to handle max settings at 4k60, but it can indeed handle high settings at 4k60.
>>340099332
>>340100642
But it proves that 1080Ti and 490 should be able to do better. They will definitely do 20-30% better than the 1080, and the 1080 already does 48fps at those high settings. 60fps 4K gaming is literally around the corner, I know you just bought your 1440 monitor but don't keep the rest of us down.
>>340100254
nvidia's close, and it makes no sense to release a 4k card with no demand
>>340099257
You're enjoying this aren't you?
>>340099293
aight I'll keep an eye on those
got a $600 980 in December
>>340100925
i'd rather have 1440 at > 60fps than 4k 60fps, that resolution's overkill unless you like massive monitors
>>340100867
I think the difference between us is I want high settings with a stable 60fps. A 1080ti might be able to do it but the 1080 cannot.
>>340100958
>no sense to release a 4k card with no demand
I don't get what you mean. As long as they are releasing more powerful cards, which they will be, naturally 4k gaming is better. They don't have to specifically target 4k gaming and release a card specifically for 4k gaming.
>>340100745
>People like you are the reason Nvidia has 80% of market share
I have an AMD card retard.
Fact remains that, even though nvidia lied, only retards believe anyone got scammed or whatever. Everyone still got exactly the performance they paid for
>>340100587
We'll see, anon. I hope you're right.
>>340096239
>Basically the ti from a series will get you through at least 2, maybe 3 series of life span
Yeah like 780Ti still usable today right? NVIDIA will gimp the shit out of you after a new card is released
>>340100745
They have 70%
>>340101031
i hope you mean 980ti
>>340100254
>4k gaming
Just how big would your monitor have to be for that to be useful?
Like you can't just cram all those pixels into a 23" monitor.
>>340101068
That's just you then. I prefer a 4k monitor because I also use my computer for work. With a 4k60hz monitor I might as well take advantage of it.
>>340101031
>people constantly saying w8
No one was kidding
Though it's funny seeing impatient people regret their decisions.
>>340101130
close enough...
number is still way too damn high
is there something liek g-sync for amd?
that's the only thing that might stop me from getting the new amd card,after having so much hassle with screen tearing and mouse lag i just want to get rid of all this shit and buy a g-sync monitor.
>>340101208
Why are you so against better technology? The day will come where 4k is the standard. Did you laugh at 1080 back in 2006?
>>340101327
Freesync
>>340100923
isn't 100C when water boils? shouldnt that card burn and melt?
>>340101208
I agree it's not so useful for a monitor under 27", but text and general web browsing will still look a lot better. If you do any programming or browsing on 4chan, text will look crisp and beautiful. In games, I typically turn it down to 1440 unless it's an older game.
>>340101410
no, i had a 55' 1080p inch tv and it costed 2k back then
>>340095272
Does Bill have AIDS?
>>340095272
It's a great card. It'll last you a long time.
>>340101624
You didn't fall for the DLP meme, right?
>>340101483
>turn it down to 1440
Does it still look "natural"? My friend has a 4k tv and when he plays games on it scaled to 1440 it just looks fucking weird. Like the aspect ratio is off or something. I'm guessing its because its a tv and not a monitor?
>>340101327
Freesync is the standard, even intel uses it. G-sync is a proprietary meme
>>340101478
the card isn't made of water, the fuck are you saying
>>340101973
No
Anything other than native res looks like shit
>>340101478
I hope you released after you posted that video cards are not made of water and the materials used have much higher melting points
>>340101478
this board is fucking hopeless
>>340101973
Not sure about TV but this is me playing GTAV in my 4K monitor on 1440p windowed.
>>340101973
Yeah it looks natural to me. I don't know what the other anon is talking about. I have a 28" 4k monitor and my friends 27" 1440 monitor looks about the same when I turn mine down to 1440.
>>340101097
Except for that part where you go past 3.5GB.
>inb4 turn down the settings
>>340093538
What card is this and when does it come out?
Sounds perfect for my build, my current one even has a 280, so I don't have high standards.
>>340102474
Rx 480, AMDs new mainstream card that offers much improved perf/watt and price/performance
>>340102073
its hot, duh
>>340093538
POO
>>340093538
UGLY boner monster. You're an UGLY BONER MONSTER!!
>>340101973
It's fine if you have a decent monitor I guess? When I turn it down from 4K to 1440, most of the time I can't even tell the difference because they're both so crisp.
>>340102427
This was included in the reviews retard, they didn't get special samples, the cards you bought performed the same as in the reviews.
>>340099257
Nice original joke. Did you write it all by yourself?
>>340101208
Considering 17 inch laptops have 4k screens, yes you can cram all those pixels in there
>>340102307
It's funny to read bullshit like that though.
>>340103690
I'm not asking if it's possible, I'm asking if there's actually any worth. Is it possible to differentiate between a 4k 17" screen and a 1440p or even 1080p one (without sticking your face inches away from it)?
>>340103950
>Like you can't just cram all those pixels into a 23" monitor.
You said this right?
>>340103950
for text? yes. not sure about games
Tell me, be my guides.
I don't plan to go past 1080p anytime in the near future. Will this mofo be enough to max everything in that res?
That price to performance ratio just seems too good.
I have 550W power supply, is that sufficient enough for the 480?fw no 1050 yet to hold out for
>>340097824
the only comp parts that are so vehemently "memed" about are gpus.
ive had the 970 for a while now and I hate myself for not waiting for AMD to get their shit together
>>340104691
go to pc part picker and fill in all the parts you use and it'll tell you the total power consumption
>>340097824
amd is at death's door, just get whatever nvidia card that 1) you can afford 2) doesn't have any problems
>>340096762
Source: that dog's ass.
>>340104471
it probably will for some time, embrace capitalism, because this is how its supposed to work
nvidia overpricing their shit? blow them away with this
>>340096626
A 480 is literally like twice the performing value of the 960 if not more. Probably closer to 225%, assuming it's at fury level
>>340097824
>Can't decipher memes
Hello newfag
Lurk more
>>340093950
Fuck v is really getting nuked with faggot cunts like you. Fuck off and go look in b for your attention.
>>340095150
Try the other way amd cards are notorious for running hot, stop being amdepressed faggot
>>340093538
>Hello my friend. Would you like to be buying Radeon for your gaming, yes?
I have a GTX 670, should I upgrayyd?
>>340097623
>It was never true to begin with retard
4GB is objectively, demonstrably better than 3.5GB. It's not even up for debate.
You're literally arguing against hard numbers here. Brand loyalty has completely rotted your brain
Is it worth "upgrading" from a 970?
>>340106421
Yes
>>340097597
>Still, this is much more than 2 or 3.5gb.
No it isn't, because again the PS4 has addressable UNIFIED MEMORY, not dedicated VRAM. Whereas your PC probably has anywhere from 4GB to 16GB of system RAM in addition to your card's VRAM.
