NULL CLOCK PROBLEMS thread.
Can someone explain to me how does randomized events work?
Does it mean some people will have to grind outcomes?
>>340059521
Pretty much. What result you get, such as continuing with the story or getting a game over, is determined solely by chance, so to complete the game, you'll have to repeat the random selection until the game gives you the right result.
>>340059521
It just means that when you play russian roulette you either get fucked or don't
>>340060294
I read somewhere that if you get an outcome the next time you will always get a new outcome
>>340060891
There have been some people asking for it to work like that, but the official word is that the results are completely random.
>>340060991
It all comes down to the RNG God
>>340060991
That's pretty fucked up but I like it.
Gives you a bit of a oh shit moment before yourewind and do it again.Like when Phi changes her result.
>>340060891
Nope.
Journos who played the russian roullette part said that it was totally random.
When it comes to decision there is invisible RNG grid spinning and you just hope for the best.
>>340061213
>your RNG is so bad you get the same result 9or moretimes in a row
would you keep going?
>>340061513
Zero this time made countermeasures to Sigma/Phi.Due to short term memory wipe they can't really gather knowledge easily.
>>340061636
You have to.
Sigma dying was leading to bad end.
VLR stream in 3 hours
>>340061873
What if it's not? Sigma being dead will not lead to VLR.
>>340062593
But it's clear in VLR's ending that Sigma and Phi know what happened at the MMTS and that they need to stop whatever happened in there.
In a sense Sigma and Phi don't want VLR to happen either but them dying clearly isn't the answer they're looking for.
>>340066630
That's hilarious, but does text go on that long for each thing you try to click on in every puzzle? Or is it just with certain things?
Because I was going to start replaying 999 and VLR before ZTD comes out and read through every bit of text in the game, but if there's that much random text throughout the entire game, I'll wait until after ZTD or something.
>>340066945
It's only with specific objects. Pic related happens with Junpei's card in the Cargo Hold. Then there's some other good stuff like Lewd Snake in the first class cabin and Akane's obsession with Junpei's rock-hard meat.
>>340063060
Sigma and Phi aren't the ones in control in ZTD though as they're not the ones making the decision. They already did what they do in VLR to help.
Just saying it's a possibility that Sigma doesn't need to be alive to reach Timeline E.
>>340061602
I'm sure I'll be fine.
sigma is tired of being shot in the head and has a suggestion.
Will you hear him out?
>>340068485
DELETE THIS
>>340068092
>tfw rather than never get them all to live you never kill Sigma due to the RNG
>>340068485
>>340069057
Has the game already been leaked?With the dialogue from the other games, it seems plausible they'd make this joke.
>>340069486
no. Ignore the girl in the oven
>>340059521It's not randomized, it's the Monty Hall problem
>>340069057
>>340069616
Why not wrap a shit load of clothing around Sigmas head.
>>340070227
Why not put clothing in the gun barrel ?
>>340070456
why not put a gun around his head to block the bullet?
>>340070456
Well the gun needs to make the bang noise to open the door.
You wrap clothing around the gun, you suppress the noise.
Dubs decides what platform I buy the game on.
That's not the same font as the game and it's completely retarded
Shops for days friends
>>340070917
>an so anon never bought the game
>>340070917
Oouya
>>340070717
Well then won't the finger also supress the noise ?
>>340070917Trips and you buy 10 Steam versions and give them out on release day.
>>340069057
>>340069616
>>340070521
>>340071080
It griefs me how such beautifull models have been wasted on such shit animations.....
I mean they look so fucking good in stills
>>340070917
If this post is a 3 you have to buy it in all the 3 platforms.
>>340071403
No suppressing the noise is a bad thing, you make a bang noise, you save Phi and if it's a blank, Sigma too.
But if it's a live round, Phi lives but Sigma dies.
>>340072270
Just have Diana sneeze really loudly, then.
>>340071837
You can even see in the Polygon quicklook that you don't see them walking.
>>340072270
Or just not put the gun there at all. If you see at the puzzle preview, Sigma and Diana are doing the puzzle just to have Signa sit on that death chair. And, at the start the rifle is not yet attached to the circle that says FIRE.
>>340062424
Make sure you get Clover ending first, fag.
>>340071743
Holy shit.
Just finished 999 last night, one of the greatest stories I've ever seen
gotta finish VLR before I come to discuss in these threads to prevent spoilers
see ya later bois
>>340073454
vlr is a fuckton longer than 999.
See you in a few days
>>340073454
Have fun, m8.Don't save in PEC or Crew Quarters if on 3DS
>>340073601
I was lucky there.
Not only did I save there, I had a double freeze and didn't lose my data either time.
Third time everything just worked out fine.
Reallydodged a bullet there
VLR stream in one hour
>>340072448
That's a 6 shooter revolver.
Any gun like that uses.45 Colt ammunition.
That sets it at +150 decibels.
The average sneeze is +90.
>>340073705
Name of the stream?
>>340073705
ZTD Better have swimsuit scenes
i imagine you won't be able to get the same result on subsequent playthroughs
>>340073695
Only time I ever had any issues was one time I saved in the ArchivesI think.
All that happened was it said "an error has occured" and I was sent back to the 3DS menu. No save corruption, nothing.
That was only when I wasbacktracking to get all gold filesanyway. Only times I saved where went I hit locks or other endings.
>>340073882
hitboxtv / blick-winkel
>>340073991
*were when I hit.
Christ I can't type properly anymore.
>>340060294
>such as continuing with the story or getting a game over
I don't think it'll give you a game over.
From the 9 minute gameplay bit, it's gonna be either it's a blank, or a live round.
>>340073705
>>340073882
Yeah, I'm starting in 52 minutes to be exact.
hitbox/blick-winkel
>>340074349
The flow chart looks like it's full of branches with only one real outcome, with the other just leading to an immediate dead end.
>>340075324
I've learned from VLR to not trust the flowchart
>>340075324
remember vlr. The flowchart lies
>>340075408
>>340075456
I might be forgetting something because I played VLR a few years ago but the parts about the flowchart lying weren't pretty much abouthiding the true end branch? Or were there more branches hiden?
>>340075324
I'm willing to bet that there will be parts that are locked away for you to progress further like in VLR.
>>340064979
I approve wholeheartedly of this picture. God I love sigma, I was worried about whether he was going to be funny in ZTD. However I got to meet Matt Mercer (Sigma's new voice actor) last weekend at Momocon and he said that though it's serious as hell, there are still some lighthearted moments.
Pic related, sorry for the shitty quality, had a spaz attack.
>>340075408
It's consistent with the fragment flow chart and the data we have on the endings. VLR's chart only hid which branches were the really long ones to make each branch appear more even. This one already shows a clear disparity in the length of different routes.
The premium booklet contains an illustration of the golden spiral, which is a spiral formed in proportion to the golden ratio. The golden ratio is usually abbreviated as φ (phi) in mathematics.
Golden spirals often appear in nature, such as in spiral galaxies, certain species of plant leaves, and snail shells.
>There are moments when a single snail can make the world go extinct.
.cia where?
CHECK CIANGEL
>>340075928
Perfect. I'm looking forward to more Siggy shenanigans.
It helps that his VO sounds great in either language. Can't help but wonder what the pervy "twelve inches" banter would've sounded like had it been voice-acted.
>>340068485
Is this footage from a new trailer?
>>340071501
This. It makes me wish Uchi hadn't changed the format to cinematics to pander to a untapped crowd for a series that's coming to an end. Then again, as with all of his games, I'm sure there's a twist as to why the game is presented in the cinematic style. Just like the dual screens on the DS and us never seeing Sigma's face in VLR.
>>340076152
>All these interlinking connections.
And now I remember another reason the series is so kick ass.
>>340071080
In all honesty, the guy is a 60 year old genius. I mean come on, the nigga created a nonary game, a clone, a cyborg, built a space colony on the moon and traveled through time. At least 80% of what his says has got to be backed by scientific reasoning
>>340076568
But he didn't suggest going full rag head to possibly stop the bullet.
>>340076152
So each game has a unique central mathematical/scientific theme, right?
>999 had digital roots and bases
>VLR had Prisoner's Dilemma and quantum mechanics
>ZTD has Golden Ratio and????????
Anything I'm forgetting?
>>340076857
ZTD has
>>340076857
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_chromodynamics
>QCD
>>340076758
I don't think a piece of cloth would have enough depth to completely protect him. One thing people have to remember in this situation is if a character gets a wound that isn't terminal, but could become fatal if not treated, they will most likely die. There are no paramedics and no medicinal supplies to stop significant blood loss, so that one end where carlos loses his arm? Yeah... He's eventually going to die, he might make it to the final door, but he'd probably collapse then and there.
MASSIVE VLR SPOILERSSo I just realized this, but either the reflection here is wrong or something else is going on. The reflection indicates it's Sigma's left eye, but the other two indicate it's his right eye that was injured. Has this been addressed?
Also >>340076152
The eye socket in this picture looks very suspicious.
>>340076351
Probably wouldn't have been as good, honestly the nice thing about text over voice acting is even though there is a lot of reading it leaves way more room for jokes. Hell I don't even think I stumbled upon half of the one-liners and comic banter in VLR.
>>340077386
I'm not saying like putting a t-shirt over his head and him thinking he's invincible.
But both Diana's and Sigmas clothes and shoes.
All of them.
>>340077421It's just a mistake. To make the "reflection", they just rotated the model.
>>340076432
From what I understand isn't the cinematic element so people can still be talking and trying to convince you to change your mind when it comes to the decision making?
I mean, the AB game and awaiting the results of it were the most tense situations I've ever experienced in a video game.
I can't imagine the pressure of having a countdown accompanied by people begging you not to pull the trigger.
On a side note I do hope that the amount of gore/brutality doesn't go so far as to make the situations seem boring eventually.
Remember.
Kyle is the key to all of this,
>>340077926
15 minutes left for the stream
se viene
>>340077525
Are we sure it's a mistake? Seems like a difficult mistake to make considering the artist knew he was making a reflection
>>340077606
Uchikoshi's said in various interviews that he made it a cinematic game instead of a visual novel because "people don’t like reading" and that he wanted to make it more like you were watching TV than playing a game.
So are we sure that Sigma in this is actually Dr.Klim?
From the 9 minute gameplay snippet he acted awfully weird, neither like Siggy or Dr.Klim.
Was really prissy and panicked.
>>340078371
Probably fucked up because of the 90minute time limit?
>>340077926Is Kyle Q?
>>340078371
Sigma in this game is actuallySCHRODINGER'S CAT
>>340078509
Isn't memory wipe only short term?
Shouldn't he still remember who he is and that he is an esper?
>>340076857
So far,we know it will involve talking about the Monty Hall problem.
>>340075324
What bothers me in this picture is that, we know from the trophies there are 7 endings, yet I see 8 total parts. The leftmost, the two diverging from the green point, the three going from the blue choice, and the rightmost two.
That's 8 in total.....
>>340068485
>>340069057
>>340069616
>>340070521
>>340071080
Now I'm curious what happens. I mean, would putting your finger in the gun barrel actually do something? The gun barrel is obviously an important mechanism otherwise the gun wouldn't have it, so maybe it would actually work
>>340077981
>>340073882
>>340073705
>>340062424
>>340073991
>>340074549
WE LIVE NOW
hitbox/blick-winkel
>>340079075
IT's time niggers.
>>340079026
>we know from the trophies there are 7 endings
Weren't they only bronze trophies? Regardless there doesn't have to be a trophy for every single ending. VLR had like 26 endings or something
>>340076152
THANKS, GYRO....
>>340079183
the propulsion is behind the bullet but it needs an escape
if you could thoroughly plug the shaft, the chamber would explode
Quality
>>340079183
are these meme images or is this an actual scenario in the game
because it sounds stupid
>>340079183
I don't see how she'll be able to block the barrel with her finger and still fire, isn't there like a huge fuckin wall in the way?
>>340079640
>they're waiting for you, gordon
>in the test chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>340079191
Yes, those were including GAME OVERS, they are those little splinters you see at some choices that don't go forward
But still, 8 routes that stretch on mean there's an actuall ending for all of em
hmmmmmm
>>340079670
these are "meme" images
>>340079679
ehh the wall isnt really in the way
>>340079026
Well, going by the trophies, there are four main routes: C, Q, D, and CQD, which is consistent with the chart having four starting branches. They each have two endings, except for C, which only has one. What we've seen suggests that the routes are arranged from left to right on the chart. C's branch has just one long path with lots of dead ends, Q's route has two short branches, and D's branch has three outcomes.
So the discrepancy is that the three-way split on the D route, the Sigma gun scenario, only counts two of the outcomes as actual endings. If I had to guess, I'd say that Sigma surviving and Phi dying lead to the real ends, while Sigma dying just leads to game overs.
who /dio/ here
ZTD was never made in the prime universe. This universe was created so that inhabitants of prime could experience the story and bring it back with them. Our universe will cease to exist when they jump out.
3 weeks. Make them count.
Q
Q(you)
Eh ?
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEH ?
>>340078289
transposition errors happen all the time, I don't see why it couldn't happen here
>>340071743
Sigma!
>>340081221
Obviously it could, I'm just wondering if that's what it indeed is, it should have been addressed in an interview or Q&A panel or something. You could both describe the issue and answer it without really spoiling anything
>>340079075
>>340079186
>>340079640
UP AND RUNNING AGAIN
LET'S GOOOOOOOO
>>340081750
would phi be down to ride her dad's 12 inch cock?
This is your opponent for tonight.
Ally or Betray?
>>340082081
Betray. I didnt forget 999 you unstable fuck
>>340082013
Themanon the moonridesthe infinite time.
>>340082013
*brother
>captcha 404
not on my watch
post phiseriously, I don't have much left myself.
>>340083808
lewd
>>340083808
DANGLING
>>340083808
thanks senpaiphi
>>340079075
>jap dub
No thanks
>>340084313
giraffe looking motherfucker desu
>>340085023
They messed with perfection.
>>340085596
DAMN
>>340085961
BRAT
>>340086013
>>340086173
SUCC
>>340086316
M-MIRA
>>340086540
WHERE IS SHE?
>>340086785
ERIC, CALM DOWN
>>340087324
Jumpyouji is an obsessive prick, I'm definitely killing him first
>>340087703not if Akane kills him first
There's no point in living once you lose the one you care about...
>>340088191
... the MOUST
MIRA IS MY ANGEL
will he come back?
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT FUCKING TERMITES
>>340088564
Thinking about what he'd look like ZTD-style kind of scares me.
>Oh this, this is it!
I kind of want Mira to stab me
>>340092497
The eye placement is a bit fucked up here
So I play VLR on the 3DS when it came out. I'm looking to replay it before ZTD come out. I was thinking about picking up the Vita version to play on my vita tv. Is it much different playing it with the controller and faux touch screen mechanics? I think the dual audio might make it a bit more interesting.
>>340088734
See, this alone makes me think that we're not gonna see anyone from the first two games come back in person. If they're present, it'll be through mentions by other characters or only through voices or somethings.
>>340092859
Just watch the stream with us
>>340092918
Looks like it's break time on the stream. I'm still looking for input. I'm just worried that some of the later puzzles that require heavy use of touch stuff might be a little annoying on the tv really.
>>340093354
I don't think it'll be hard at all.
So where the fuck is Santa?
>>340093591
It's a secret.
>>340093591
Santa is Phi (Male)
>>340093591
It's Phi (male).
Can someone explain the flowchart lying thing to me i dont remember it hiding stuff forever or misleading you
>>340093694
>Santa is Phi (Male)
>>340093717
>It's Phi (male).
There's an actual source or it's just a fucking joke?
>>340093894
BIG
>>340093982
DANGLING
I just want Sigma and Phi to live happily together in the saved world but I know they won't and the best I can hope for is Dangan Ronpa 2's ending again
3ds leak when
>>3400957099 days
>>340094790
>best I can hope for is Dangan Ronpa 2's ending
>sdr's ending
>not irreedeemable garbage
I kinda doubt that.
>>340092606yes, well, it was a spur of the moment thirst kind of thing so there are quite a few mistakes if you look for them, unfortunately
>>340097360Doesn't look that hard to fix, just look at his left eye, it ends above the ear
>>340097640holy fuck, his ears weren't even what I was looking at, that's pretty bad. Thanks anon
Here's a quick fix plus a couple other things I meant to add/change, such as making his eyes a more accurate green
>>340088734
But ZTD made the previous men much hotter than before
>>340098937Actually judging from pic related, it's the other eye that you should have moved, nice work anyways.
>>340093820
Some of the branches appear much shorter than they are until you get to them, like Phi's route. I'm not quite sure there's going to be much of that in ZTD, since you can't choose and follow a timeline this time. There's probably going to be a true ending hidden though.
>>340078368
Well, now I'm sort of scared for the game. I hope he doesn't fuck it up
>>340099274
Ahh, you're right. I might address that later, thats an even easier fix. Thanks anon
>>340099654
Given that it's meant to be story-driven, I'm not too worried about it. It's just a matter of visually conveying a story vs. telling it, and since vidya is a more visual medium after all I'm pretty confident he can get it right.
>>340099654
He already mentioned wanting to do that style years ago, after VLR was released. I'm inclined to think he'll manage to pull some narrative twist with this, he probably has some plan.
>>340098302
I wonder what the fuck is going in the leftmost branch.
>>340100231
>Cameraman is tenth participant/Zero
Thanks for the stream, BW
>>340101291
>you're the central AI watching all possible outcomes
>>340100231
Since every Fragment has a Decision stage, what do you think the Final Decision will be? Something brutal like either blowing up the station and everyone there or letting Rad6 out? Something sweet like an I Do at a wedding? What would be the most emotionally powerful Decision possible?
>>340102762
I´m guessing that only the true end will not end in horrible sadness/death. Or at least radical 6 release in every one untilJunpei sacrifices Akane in the true end.
>>340103131
Akane will be the one who needs to let Junpei go to reach the true ending. The only reason she's unable to see it is because all the "good" ones lead to a dead Junpei.
>>340103131
But the end might have a Decision too
The best part is that we already know how the bad ending looks like, which isthe entirety of VLR.So most probably a lot of people have to die and sacrifice themselves for the good of the world and reach the True Good Ending
>>340103281
You´ll most likely just have to choose between two characters/teams dying, but in the end that obviously won´t stop the R6 until you get all puzzle parts together.
Post your ZTD twist.The Zero in ZTD is legitimately evil and doesn't have a good reason for doing what he's doing other than for his sadistic enjoyment
>>340103925Junpei is assisting Zero
>>340060294
According to Monster Hunter players, this makes the game more hardcore. Can't wait to sleepwalk through the same shit for hours on end just to get something new.
>>340103925
>>340104171Everything was according to Junpei's keikaku.
>>340103925the dog is Clover returning to the past to save Junpei and Sigma while also facilitating her own return to the base timeline
>>340103281
And you won't see the outcome of the decision. You make the final choice and the credits roll.
>>340103925The real Aoi Kurashiki is Brother, and not the man we knew in 999. That was Phi using his name for some reason.
>>340103925
http://pastebin.com/1tiEHNcv
>>340084403
What little but munch would think it's a good idea to put a water mark on this image.
>>340103925
That would be a shitty twist, especially since we knowZero is aware of timelines
12
>>340082081
Ally. She might be a little crazy but she ultimately has a good heart.
>>340061765
Can't they like carve shit into their bodies before the wipe, read it and then jump?
Also the RNG and memory wiping seem to be the best way to fuck with espers
Bravo Brother
>>340112423
I highly doubt any affliction like that upon their own bodies will remain.
>>340088191
Santa's ded?
>50/50 chance of shooting Sigma in the head
>But unless the mechanism is designed to cycle through bullets depending on how long you take there's no way the result would be different every time you do it
>>340077421
How the fuck did sigma not notice his long ass hair and old man voice?
So how the fuck can Akane physically jump between timelines?
Doesn't that break causality?
>>340113972
Voice could be attributed to Rad-6 fuckery.
Hair I have no idea.
CIA WHERE
>>340113972
we only see the timelines where he didn't notice :^)
also schrodinger's pussy.
People say that Akane can physically travel through time because of the Safe ending correct?
But didn't she disappear because there was no way Junpei could have saved her in that tiimeline?
If she could physically travel through time then all of Zero's shit in ZTD would mean nothing to her.
What the fuck is schrodinger's cat supposed to signify?
It made sense when she was in K's armor and all that, but how does it relate to time travel?
>>340103925
Q literally has the player's face
>>340115273
who's the player tho
>>340115386Blick Winkel
Oh and how the FUCK do you not notice a bionic eye that says fucking ZOOM at the corner of your vision whenever you focus on something?
Another thing, how the fuck did any of the characters interact with any of the machinery/computers?
Did the cameras record shit 6 times slower?
Finally if all of them are infected with Rad 6 how the fuck did Sigma perceive phi as talking super fast? Did he somehow slow down more than her?I can't fucking wait for ZTD
>>340115442
that get out of jail free card? I better pirate this game.
>>340077926
I question that now, given that Uchi has created two continuity errors by shoehorning akane and junpei into this I wonder if he really is gonna follow up on his thing with kyle or just change that too.
>>340115952
We don't actually know who the "player" is but it can be certain that Blick will be present during everything (You) observe.
>>340116083
bw/player is a shitty plot device. They might as well ask god to help them fix the world.
>>340088564
>flaunts his dick saying he can take anyone on and challenges junpei
>manages to get knocked out and kidnapped
And here I thought the blind where supposed to have super hearing. I feel you man, I really wish Uchi would've put him and seven in rather than akane and junpei. Hell he talked about adding them at one point if there was demand for them.
Whelp, all we can do is hope that Uchi's secret plan to bring as many people onboard for the series and keep it going works. I would buy a $100 collectors edition of a zero escape game where you solved mysteries as seven, snake, sigma, ace and phi. Fuck me, I just hope ZTD tells us what happened to everyone from VLR and 999. Of course I'm almost certain if Uchi does that it will end with a cliffhanger. Like Ace escaped from jail or snake really is tied into the brotherhood.
>>340084313
>highwaisted shorts
Really disappointed by this decision, I have never liked highwaisted shorts. Hell, she better be wearing a damn swimsuit under that thing, she owes sigma. Trying to act like she doesn't remember.
>mysteries from the previous two games will be answered in 22 days>more unanswered questions could potentially come up after
>>340115273
>takes mask off
>looks into mirror
>3DS camera puts your face there instead
Kinda glad this won't happen. Thanks, multiplats!
>>340117290
I wonder if Sigma and Phi will be doing time jumping shenanigansor maybe they're prevented because we don't control the players this time
>>340114960
Short-hand version: Multiverse Theory.
Long-hand version:Multiverse Theory where she saves herself by influencing other timelines - once she's done in 999 she retroactively no longer has to be there because in that timeline she's become saved, and she moves on to VLR
where she foundsCrash Keys, and founds the Nonary Game: Ambidex Edition, where she meticulously studies through memory retention, preparing Sigma, Phi and [?] to save the world from Radical-6
So then it would not be too far-fetched to say that Akanedoesn't physically travel through time, just her conscience. Now, this one's a doozy - She HAS travelled physically through time at least once, and she HAS stated that there is a way to move both body and conscience through time, Clover and Alice said as much.
As for during ZTD, well...
My personal opinion has to do withthe fact that she alone can't prevent the catastrophe and requires everyone to reach a 'golden ending' unified where no one dies and pretty la la sunshine
>>340117487
the bracelets will wipe their memories every 90 mins
even if they jump they won't retain any useful info, and they won't know when they've jumped to
>>340103925
>copying kodaka by using junko enoshima
Please god, I know they're drinking buddies and borrow a lot of ideas between each other, but I solemnly hope he doesn't go with the "it was all for despair" route. Uchi is far too highbrow for something so juvenile.
My twist guess is that for once there isn't a route where everyone survives. The true ending has at least one character being permadead and that person will most likely be akane. Which then causes a rift in the very fucking fabric of time itself because she is necessary for the events of VLR to take place. Time and space itself begins to collapse as the world is plunged into chaos.
>>340117701
I was wondering if they could time jump before the bracelets triggered into a point after the bracelets woke them up so they can essentially bypass the memorywipes.
>>340117703
Timeline E (the good end without Radical-6) means that VLR's events never happen.
>>340117648
>she HAS stated that there is a way to move both body and conscience through time, Clover and Alice said as much.
Well, yeah, in the same way we're moving body and mind through time right now. Alice and Clover are in the future but it came at a price: they were frozen, and it was a one-way ticket. It's why they're not in ZTD.
>>340117648
>theres a chance clover and all-ice could make a surprise appearance
I wouldn't be shocked, honestly with this being the final entry in the series. It would be really interesting for Uchi to go a little off the rails and break some of his rules. Like maybe surprise characters enter later in the game, breaking the "9 participants rule".
>>340117948
Unless the entirety of VLR was a setup.
Kinda like 999 was.
>>340117967
That wouldn't be anything new. Both of the previous games already broke the "9 participants" rule.
>>340117952Alice and Clover return to 2028 from 2074, that was the premise Akane gave them, and there only being one way to do so.
>>340071501
I can't call the models "beautiful". I'm pretty confident the rigging is all kinds of fucked up, especially facially.
>>340117703
>>copying kodaka by using junko enoshima
Fuck it, take it to the extreme conclusion. Zero isLiterally Junko. ZE3 is just another DR spin off, and Kodaka has been wearing Uchikoshi's skin as a suit ever since he killed him for his shoes.
>>340118097
The only other explanation is that it's not really 2074.
>>340118036
>>340117648
>she HAS stated that there is a way to move both body and conscience through time
We know that it's possible because Brother can do it.
>>340118296
If you only drew info from Zero Escape, yes, that'd be the outcome.I don't, and I say there's a high chance of 'that thing' resurfacing as a central plot point
>>340118342
Wouldn't be too farfetched to say he does the same.
>>340076857
ZTD is decisions.
>>340118504
All the games have decisions.
>the team with best girl only has one ending
Where is the justice in this
So when is everyone going to fuck off from /v/? In two days the game will only be a short 3 weeks away. I'm expecting a leak any day now, so personally I'm gonna go dark probably a week before it comes out. Remove myself from the operation bluebird page, all the good stuff.
>>340118187
Really wouldn't be surprised by this, hell I've been wondering when they would do a crossover or just straight up fuck everything up and say they take place in the same universe any day now.
>>340117952
I always overthink these things, in the theory of relativity and everything, that should be impossible. It's like bill and ted's excellent adventure, at the end they do a lot of shit that would require them to go back in time. But the question is did they ever actually go back and do it? Just like in order for VLR to happen to prevent radical 6, akane needs to be alive. Even if they stop radical 6 and create a worldline where vlr doesn't happen they would still need to carry out the steps somehow for that worldline to even exist. It's all built on a house of cards, just like that damn movie project almanac.
In the ending that leads to VLR's timeline, we know Junpei, Akane, Sigma, and Phi survive. Which means five people died, but six deaths are needed in order to escape. Does this mean they were able to cheat? For example, the esper participants were able to undermine the memory wiping drug safeguard, and memorize passwords for the x-doors, or maybe zero isn't one of the nine participants, and chose to give up his own life.
But there is also another inconsistency. In VLR, you hear an audio transmission from Diana saying she "killed all six of them." If that's true, then how are Junpei, Akane, Sigma, and Phi still alive? That would mean there are at least 11 people in the facility, or somehow the recorded message travelled from another timeline.
Regardless, the 28th can't come soon enough. It's like waiting for my 21st birthday all over again!
>>340118801
I'm here till the end. There's gonna be a barrage of fake spoilers, so, while some real shit is gonna be thrown in, nothing is gonna be game-ruining... Unless screenshots of endgame stuff come out. Then I'm gone.
>>340118550
Yeah but it's what the game is named after
Nonary game (9 and bases)
AB Game (Ally/Betray)
Decision Game
Is it possible to get a amazon free trial if you already use it years ago? I don't think I can't wait 7 days.
>>340118801
I'm staying. Only drama queens care that much about spoilers.
>>340118801
You are absolutely correct in that they would have to make sure all the events happen the way they should.
That is what my conclusions regarding the core twist behind ZTD has led me to believe first and above all else.The fate of six billion people rest in the hands of the participants.
Which would be nice enough on its' own, but that's got no actual substance to it other than "Go save the world, be altruistic."
So what is a plausible ulterior motive?To make sure that the butterfly effects are set in motion once again from the very start, setting off the entire crucial chain of events that made 999, VLR and ZTD a reality
>>340119028
I thought the consensus was that they replaced the participants in the new timeline
>>340118801
>Really wouldn't be surprised by this, hell I've been wondering when they would do a crossover or just straight up fuck everything up and say they take place in the same universe any day now.
Fuck, wouldn't that be a meta twist? ZTD is 3D because it has to fit into the UDG art style...
Leaving a week before the release, though. That's when I'm betting on the leak dropping.
>>340118801
>when is everyone going to fuck off from /v/?
I've telling myself "this thread is my last" for like a week now. I really don't want to go into the game with a ton of theories, wondering what that screencap meant or when that scene is going to appear. I want as fresh an experience as possible, like with the first 2 games, but damn it, I'm so excited that I just keep eating up every last little scrap of anything ZE-related.
I used to wonder why people avoided any and all news about a game before release, but now I really wish I was one of those people.
>>340119084
The game in VLR's still called the Nonary Game. The AB Game's just what the allying and betraying part is called.
>>340119084
It's the Decision Game becausethere are 10 people involved.
>>340119028
What if the Junpei in ZTD isn't actually the one that would later be Tenmyoji but one that somehow came from a different timeline, like the one in the Safe ending of 999? I don't think it was ever decisively explained why exactly the soporil smoke showed up in the room there.
>>340119580
This is probably gonna be the "big twist" honestly. Both 999 and VLR had extra people in the game. Uchikoshi isn't the type to ever try anything different, so...
>>340118664
They only have one ending, but they have more fragments than the other teams. C has 12, D has 10, and Q has 7, going by the screenshots and flow chart we've seen.
>>340119580
>>340119084
Don't think too harshly into the ties in with Nonary for this game, because they're already split up into teams.
This game will be straightforward and easy to grasp - You have to make a decision. A decision that, when the outcome is decided, can have immeasurably grand repercussions.
Or if you'd prefer it in a simpler bite: You decide who gets to live... and who has to die.
>>340119804
It can also be said that(You) decide who lives and who dies, which means you, as the player are the 10th participant.
>>340119976
Not an inaccurate statement if you were to exclude the other pool of information and ideas you could draw from.I personally think the change from first person to third person means that (You) are just subtly going to influence the players, instead of embodying them like in the other installations
>>340119784
I wonder why we haven't seen Q team's chart yet
We've seen Diana's and Carlos's several times now, haven't we?
>>340117352
Actually Vita has a camera too, a similar feature is used in Tearaway where you see your face in the backgorund a lot of times, I hate it, PC is to blame in this case.
>>340119230
>replaced the participants in the new timeline
Please, explain.
>>340120273
Yeah, we haven't actually seen theirs yet. I got the number 7 by subtracting C's and D's from the total amount in the flow chart. Maybe it's because it looks more impressive to show off the ones with more options. Teams C and D tend to be the main focus of most of the promo material, too.
>>340121020
Team Q probably holds the biggest or earliest twists
>>340121020
>it looks more impressive to show off the ones with more options
That's probably it
If I saw a chart with just 7 fragments early on, I'd probably go all grumpy Jumpy
>>340121020
>>340121290
>>340121367
You know what they say, curveball expectations where you least anticipate.Q Route will probably be the primary focus for the 'main' plot advancement, and/or be the focal point for having more UNLOCKED as you learn more from the other routes
Just Finished replaying 999. I know June gets a fever if you are heading towards the wrong path, but why does she get a fever at the very beginning, when Junpei asks two other people to help him open the [5] Door right after the 9th man exploded. Is there an explanation why she gets a fever, regardless of who you pick?
pic not related
>>340121612
It seems likely with the whole 'Q' motif in the series being related to a major reveal.
>>340121745
it's basically a warning that going through door 5 meansyou never save her from the incinerator in the past. This applies to the Safe ending as well.
>>340121745
Because she always goes through the experience, the symptoms leading towards the wrong path increases linearly, not much to read into right there, as she's always starting off in the 'fever' area.
>>340122061
This, too. As far as I can recall, thebracelet is used as a plot device STRICTLY required to set things up the way they HAVE to unfold, and anyone else going through that door but the ones she's set out would basically break everything
Uh. Sorry. But. I am. Done. With playing. The. Action. Hero.
Because I. Grew up.
>>340121912
Obviously, Q's helmet coming off will be a big deal (again), but somehow, I'm not really expecting Eric and Mira to have really big twists to them outside of being raving lunatics.
which platform should I get it on?
and which platform should I get VLR on? I'd hjave to rebuy the games to play them again since my vidya collection was stolen
What are the best settings for 999 on Desmume?
It keeps spiking in the puzzle sections for whatever reason and it gets really annoying.
I don't have a DS or the game anymore.I'm replaying 999.
>Brother didn't know his father and his mother died when he was young
>Phi didn't know her father and her mother died when she was young
That's definitely gonna come up, right?
>>340122676
You'd need some more substantiation to derive that as a fact off of, remember who's known to be related by genetic composition.
>>340122285
>every timeline is just "Eric and Mira flip the fuck out while important things happen around them"
>>340122285
No, that's too obvious and what Uchikoshi is trying to make people think. There's got to be more to them.
Anyhow, gonna head off to bed and then write up some more shit on the whole I/ZE theory thing I suppose.Don't let the Decisions you make lead you down a path you can never return from.
>>340122285
My guess is Eric and Mira's relationship is one sided. Mira is a sociopath who manipulates Eric, and only lets him become a loose cannon and kill people when it benefits her.
>>340123039
That's what I thought about Dio when I was playing VLR. I thought there was more to him, but nope.
It's probably going to be the same case with Eric and Mira, you know.
>>340123271
He did that only because the opposite happened before that. He won't repeat the same thing.
I'm not saying they are good people, but LOL PSYCHOPATHS XD it's too dumb and reeks of dangan ronpa.
>>340123271
To use another example from VLR, there ended up being "more" to Quark, in that he was adopted and raised by Tenmyouji - but he had absolutely zero significance on the plot as a whole.
As much as I'm looking forward to Eric and Mira's murdery rom-com, I do hope they have some significance outside of each other. Maybe they have reallyinterestingreasons for signing up for Dcom?
>>340122961
when was the players genetic composition revealed?
>>340123513
The atmosphere and themes are already changing a lot in this entry, with it being more of a bloodbath and the trailers being full of people swinging weapons around. It's not too much of a stretch to think that these characters are mainly around to fuel the slasher elements going by everything we've seen of them.
>>340124443Brother and Left are related by blood, and we know who Left is. Trying to tie that in with Phi is going to be an impossible sell.
>>340124470
Wouldn't be surprising if the Decision Game is made so that the characters forgo rational humane thoughts and instead focus primarily on 'What end justifies my means?'
Why didn't Tenmyouji flip out when he saw a young 22 year old Clover?
Why didn't he ever mentioned it was 2074 whenever people said about how they thought it was 2028?
>>340124828HE TELLS YOU HE'S THERE ON FUCKING PURPOSE AND KNOWS BETTER THAN TO DIVULGE SHIT
>>340124828
He was blackmailed by Akane into not telling you shit
I want to protect her smile.
Who here would play a prequel Zero Escape game, one where you play as Ace in the very first nonary game hosted by Lord Gordain? I think it would be interesting to see how Ace acquired his prosopagnosia, if he got afflicted by it during the game.
>>340127997
I would play games set in this universe until the end of time
>>340128149
Pretty much this.
>>340122257
I want to see Junpei absuing Akane verbally and physically.
Then cucking her with carlos
>>340122554
Spiking? No idea what you mean.
>>340113552
>get bad result 3 times in a row
>get good result next time
>keep going, get good result 2 more times
>seventh time, the gun won't fire
>each attempt is actually a different batch of clones
>>340124612
wait when does it reveal thatBrother and Left are related by blood
>>340129106
>This
>Daddy Ace
>Old Sigma and Kyle incest
>Junpei and Tenmyouji self fucking
>Seven's BBC
>Twink Santa
>Eric's ice cream
>Dio raping
>Light's "Snake"
Jesus, Zero Escape has everything! Why is there no yaoi of it?
It's not fair.
>>340131240
LEAK WHEN
>>340131240
oh shit i'll be able t pirate the pc version
but yeah probably can't even run the game on my shitty laptop
>>340131887
they probably didn't bother testing it with computers other than what they had on them
>>340131887
I'm sure they're just covering their ass
I used to have a radeon 5770 and can't tell you how many games that listed 7850 or some shit as the minimum and they ran just fine
>>340130081
Like lag spikes.
Every few seconds or when the screen changes or something, it completely stops for about a split second. Like I said, it really gets annoying.
>>340131887
I think you'll be alright. I just want them to open the damn pre-order already.
>>340133305
what's your CPU
DS emulation is still pretty shit and requires a good processor for smooth playback
>At the end, everyone escapes the facility only to leave through the uninvestigated door in R11 and discover that they've been under sphia and it's the year 2012.
I would flip the fuck out
>>340135326
It's assumed that door leads to the clock tower. I was peeved when it took so long for the MC to wonder how you got up there in the first place, and you had a key card to the security room the entire time.
>>340135326
what geimu is that from?
>>340136002
November12.
>>340136002
Cucumber14
>>340136173
>>340136250
Oh (You).
>>340133451
That might be his only option. I've had 999 freeze up in no$gba. Not sure what other emulators can play 999 stably.
>>340103925
Phi is actually Quark and Junpei is actually Seven with face surgery to look like Junpei
>>340136651
Did Seven get lipo too?
>>340137065
He was just wearing a fat suit in the first game
>>340137272
But who was in the suit hasn't been determined yet.
So I was interested in reading Ever 17. I know it's the second part in the series, but is it alright to start there? I've heard people say Never7 is pretty hit or miss. Would I be missing out on much by skipping over it?
>>340137480
Never7 is shit. Just ignore it.
>>340137558
Good to know.
Is it fun to replay 999?
>>340137964
If you only plan on doing Safe -> True Ending, then sure, since you cut down the amount of repetition.
The lack of a flowchart and having to redo rooms in different routes can get a bit tedious if you wanted to view all the bad ends.
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