Was this a failure, /v/?
Steamlink has debatable usefulness depending on where/who you live with
The controller is hot garbage though
They don't ship them to my country, so yes.
>>340049818
I really like the controller, haven't used the link.
>>340049818
It was successful in angering someone to make that picture.
>>340049818
They sold a half million of the gamepads which is pretty awesome for a peripheral for PC gaming. For the money its probably the best gamepad that's ever been made for PC gaming.
Its main problem is that its required Steam Big Picture mode, but that's not an issue anymore.
>>340049818
I ended up buying one for 30 bucks, very nice for most games and the back triggers can be a godsend. Not to mention it's customizable as fuck. Only issue I have is that I feel that the handles are a bit thick for my medium hands.
>>340049818 >>340049950
I never used one. Were they really that bad or was it just kbm elitism?
I use a touchpad all on my laptop. What stops it from working on a Gamepad?
>>340050368
Check Steam app named Controller Companion. Pretty useful and pretty cheap and pretty.
>>340049950
The controller is actually really good and pretty much required if you use your PC on a couch
I wouldn't play RTS with it but its really comfy to play Civ / XCOM / etc
>>340051370
It's not really a bad controller, but Valve were dumb and tried to compete with kb+m instead of other controllers.
The amount of precision you can do with your entire hand/wrist will always surpass control you can do with a single thumb.
if Gaben would send me a controller for free I'd take it. maybe then i'd buy those lazy-ass console ports that demand you own a console controller. i haven't felt enough desire to waste $50 in buying a controller i'd only use for a few $5 beat 'em up button mashers and maybe those Japanese Asscreed (Dark Souls) games
It's sold 500K apparently, compare that to the sales of something like the Logitech F series and you'll have your answer.
I'd actually like a steam link if they let me buy one
>b-but muh long HDMI cable
HDMI doesn't carry controller inputs ya dingus.
>>340054468
>compare this to the sales of a product that has been out for more than a decade
Why
>>340050368
Is that linux only?
>>340055049
yes
>>340055009
Didn't mean to imply total sales, I should have added "during a comparable sales period"
>>340054831
no but a 360 controller works for pc so
I don't feel like a lot of people understand what in-home streaming is yet.
>>340055347
but it doesn't get carried by HDMI.
so I could either set up an old laptop with steam streaming (wasting more electricity and generating heat) or I'd need to be within a very short range of my desktop so that both the HDMI cable and the 360 wireless could reach it.
I'd rather buy a steam link.
>>340049818
I like the concept of steam link, till my pc freezes and I actually have to get off the couch
I think both require Big Picture, which is terrible.
I bought the pad to try it out and it required a Big Picture update. The update broke my Steam install and the only way to fix is was to copy over the Steam directory of a friend. Support got back to my ticket a sweet 7 months later.
>>340055696
the gamepad requiring Big Picture is stupid, but the Link wouldn't make sense without Big Picture.
>>340055696
You don't NEED big picture for the controller. You only use it so you can edit the config you use on your desktop and to browse community configs
>>340049818
The steam link is shit over wireless WiFi but when wired on LAN it's ok.
The controller though, my god it's so useful
>>340049818
I was thinking about getting the link. I have a pretty long HDMI cable and USB extensions, but the HDMI cable is huge and bulky and it makes for a pretty noticeable input lag. I'm curious if the steam link would be a little better or not.
>>340050368
That screenshot is outdated now. Kozec's SC tool now supports the gyro (and an on-screen keyboard).
The controller is ok, but only after you tune it for a particular game.
Played Dark Souls 3 entirely with Steam Controller
I find myself using it for web browsing on the sofa a lot also.
>>340049818
I have two
It's fucking god tier desu. I can use it for every game unlike an xbox controller which can't do shit in certain games like RTS's or games that just don't support pads and It's also a controller for my TV since I have a 55 inch infront of my bed hooked up with my HDMI so I can shit post on 4chan with it.
Steam controller is great for certain genres. Most people shitting on it are just trash at using it. It has a learning curve for sure.
I bought the Link from this sale but I'm holding off on a controller considering they said they are working on a revision.
>>340049818
No standalone drivers = No support from us
>>340056154
why
>>340056709
>>340049950
>The controller is hot garbage though
Why?
>>340055696
I use big picture a lot and I added some html5 programs like Youtube TV. It's very easy to use and navigate with a keyboard but the downside is sometimes big picture "shift+tab" doesn't work properly on some games. Also they need to add keyboard shortcuts
>>340056961
Newfag
Why doesn't the Xbox button on the Xbone controller work in big picture?
>>340057056
k
>>340057128
What is it supposed to do?
>>340056961
baka desu senpai
>>340057128
I have the 360 controller
if you have the drivers installed and press the xbox button it shows something to indentify the controller
>>340057231
bring you back to the big picture menus while in game
pretty much supposed to be a shift+tab button
I bought a steam link, and I like it. It does what it says. I got no real complaints with it. Just don't try and use it over wi-fi.
>>340049818
I fucking hate the piece of shit trackpad on this thing. If they had actually made it a normal joystick it would have been fine but that trackpad made me never touch the thing again and instead use a PS3 controller.
>>340057093
Oh the irony
>>340057128
Disable your game bar
>>340057231
Launch bp and open quick menu in bp
>>340057020
This is /v/.
Everything is either "garbage" or "amazing"
No middleground, I'm too autistic to accept something can be alright.
I still don't think I like the idea of the controller.
>>340055487
Why not just get a really long HDMI cable and a USB extension + a USB hub?
>>340057436
>no u
k
>>340057507
have you used it? Or do you just not like the idea?
The Steam link is fucking awesome if you take the time to hard wire everything. It works on Wi-Fi for simple 2D games, but shits the bed if you try to play anything it needs to render in 3D.
I wasn't sold I the controller at all, until a friend brought one over, and I found out how amazingly customizable it is. If the layout feels wrong for a particular game, you can download some user's preset in seconds and try that instead, it's great.
>>340049818
the config UI desperately needs a refresh holy shit
so much of it is trial and error with text descriptions asking you to visualize things rather than actually drawing a visualization on the screen
making a 2d object like absolute mouse region or a touch menu should be done with drawing a preview rectangle on screen, not with 4 unnumbered sliders.
gyro config should label angles, but again, unnumbered sliders
rawinput mouse and kb seems to be broken, im assuming its being passed thru the controller HID and then unpacked by steam itself
>>340057712
>steam link
>render
But yes, 3D games usually have more changes between frames, so more drawing has to be done than in 2D, which is what Steam Link has trouble doing over slow connections or high packet losshuehuehue, loss, get it
>>340049818
I still don't understand its touch thingy. Why not use tried-and-true physical buttons?
That thing can at least emulate mouse cursor, right?
>bought the steam controller because I thought it was going to be useful
Have yet to find a single game that it works better for than a 360 controller. If the game needs mouse and keyboard you just use those and not the mess that is those touch pads. another thing that gets me is the fact that half the games wont even launch with it plugged in, the damn controller crashes games somehow. 360? works perfectly. The worst part is how it also fits in your hands, shit just doesn't feel right. imagine a 360 controller. now flip it upside down so the handles are pushed directly into your palms. Steam somehow thought "yeah people love controllers that don't fit in your hands".
I cant bitch that much though. I did get the thing half off or something like that when I bought it bundled with DS3.
>>340057507
Don't bother with it, the trackpad ruins the whole goddamn controller. I don't give a shit how much you can customize the trackpad, it's inferior to a joystick in every possible way. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put a trackpad on a controller when people constantly mock the concept of gaming with a trackpad?
>>340058176
Thanks for explaining that. Didn't quite understand why before you explained that.
>>340058375
>the trackpad, it's inferior to a joystick in every possible way
Measurably false. It is objectively better for FPS. You simply cannot aim as accurate or as quickly with a joystick.
Joystick is better for movement/racing and things like that, but that is why there is a joystick on the left.
>>340055487
Wait so if I build a PC and hook it up to my tv should I use an hdmi cable or steam link?
>>340058710
I guess, but at that point I would just be using a keyboard+mouse. The only time I ever use a controller are for games that use a third person camera.
>>340057804
also rawinput is needed for MAME, but ive been using a build of sdlmame to get round that, but the problem is you gotta wait for someone else to build it.
gyro joystick works pretty well for paddle and light gun emu tho (absolute inputs), trackpad is practically a solid state trackball, gyro mouse kinda works as spinner with a bit of practice
>>340058204
Think of it this way: Consoles have context menus all over it. When you press up in the menu from some position, it goes to some other predictable position. PC screen isn't that simple. There are buttons all over the place so pressing up doesn't have predictable location. That's why you need a mouse so you can press the exact location you want in the screen. Now joystick mouse has always been wonky to use since it's hard to have it fast and accurate. And that's why they used trackpads.
>>340059043
>but at that point I would just be using a keyboard+mouse
Sure. Kb+M is much better for aiming. But the point of the steam controller is to be able to play games that require a mouse from your couch or bed.
Besides, a unique thing about the SC is that it gives you mouse style control with triggers and analogue. Perfect for games like GTA where you want to run and drive while also shoot accurately.
>>340059043
have you ever used kb+m on your couch or bed? It's a pain.
>>340058204
>Why not use tried-and-true physical buttons?
Huh? It does?
/r/pcmasterrace is here to shill you dont fall for their shit
Use your brain guys youtube that fucking horrible controller
>>340058208
>The worst part is how it also fits in your hands, shit just doesn't feel right. imagine a 360 controller. now flip it upside down so the handles are pushed directly into your palms. Steam somehow thought "yeah people love controllers that don't fit in your hand
Jesus dude you can't even hold a controller properly. The thing is max comfy
>>340050368
They sold half a million gamepads because it came included with the devices and steam boxes
No one but valves knows how many gamepads were sold separately
>>340049818
It fell under the below average mark if the reports about it are true
Steam OS being a restricted version of another Linux OS didn't help neither along with the controller not being properly optimized for many games even on the list of games it says should be plug n play
>>340059304
Alright I googled Steam controller and picked the first result that wasn't Shittaku or the likes and the result is that people hate it because it's different.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/10/we-hate-valve-steam-controller-because-its-different/
Its neat I guess. Give it four or five years to work out all the kinks and sell one that isn't as flimsy and the functionality's been updated. Really cool idea honestly, it just needs to be worked on heavily to truly be competitive with the options that 'werk on my machine :^)'. It's hot fucking garbage for fighting games but that's no surprise.
Controller was an abortion as soon as they revealed Vive controllers.
Steamlink is a product seeking a customer. There are like 10k people total who need something like that, and it's a market which can only shrink.
>>340049818
Link is a glorified HDMI cable. Controller fits a very real niche but requiring Steam for hardware is bretty shit and I've heard other software complaints.
I'll probably buy the latter at some point if they come up with a new iteration that they've been mentioning. (alongside releasing CADs, which implies third part versions)
>>340059627
>steam boxes
>Thinking anyone ever bought a steam machines
>>340059724
Lol nice try leddit
I want a Steam controller cuz it seems cozy as fuck, but I'm waiting for a revision or something to come out. No way I'm buying their first model.
>>340050368
Wait, so you are telling me I can download software that lets me configure the controller for use in non-steam games? YES!
>>340060660
Rev 2 is hinted to come out soon
Likely why they want to get rid of their current stock
>>340060861
>textbook marketing sentence
>YES!
/r/pcmastercuck
>>340060861
You can use it in non-steam games if you just add them to steam.
Also Big Picture is only required to configure the controller, but after you have the configuration that you want to use set up, you can play without Big Picture. Just start the game and turn on steam controller
>>340060050
I'm hoping they announce a new steam machine that uses a 480x. Or something worth buying.
>>340060861
>>340061185
For example I use my steam controller to play FF12 on PCSX2, I just add the PCSX2 exe to steam and start it through steam.
>>340050368
Does the single analogue stick click in?
>>340060948
>>340060660
The revision isn't coming anytime soon. Confirmed by Valve employee.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/4m9w3u/steam_controller_and_link_on_sale_till_66_30/d3u1bpx
>>340061461
Yes.
So do the 2 touchpads
>>340061461
Yes. As well as the trackpads.
>>340061619
Thanks anon. This'll help me weigh-in on if I should buy it or not.
>>340060987
I already own the controller and I'm discovering new things about it. If you cannot handle this you can fuck off and go jerk to overwatch porn you jaded cuckboi.
>>340061185
Not true. In non-Big Picture mode you can right click a game and launch the controller config program. The controller has to be plugged in and recognized by steam though. I prefer doing it that way.
>>340061395
Guess its not an option for pirated games.
>>340050368
>For the money its probably the best gamepad that's ever been made for PC gaming.
NO DPAD
By default it cannot be the best controller. It's utter shit for anything that doesn't require analog input.
I already sent an email to Gabe himself giving him a FREE IDEA for the Steam Controllers.
To have the made in different colors, like:
>Lambda Orange
>MannCo Gunmetal
>Aperature White
>>340061820
>Guess its not an option for pirated games.
I have a separate steam account for pirated games and I play DS3 with my steam controller.
>Not true. In non-Big Picture mode you can right click a game and launch the controller config program. The controller has to be plugged in and recognized by steam though. I prefer doing it that way.
Neat, didn't know that!
>>340061989
>marketing color names
I want mindless consumers to commit mass suicide
>>340050368
Somebody makes a Steam Controller APP
Its basically Joy2Key without any of the good stuff Big Picture Mode did for the controller
How the fuck, do you miss the point THAT BADLY?
There is no point in using that thing, when it lacks some of the basic features, like customizing the haptic feedback. Or stacked input
>>340061860
>>340062203
Honestly Steam Big Picture mode is super comfy for me as well though. I find it superior to Xbone & PS4 UI. I love the style of the achievement notifications while in BP mode.
>>340049818
No, the controller is really good, it's just not marketed at all.
>>340057712
Steam Link works great on AC Wireless. The occasional blip here and there but you forget it happens after 30 mins solid play uninterrupted.
>>340058208
Do you even understand why Steam controller exists? It's not so it would replace existing controllers.
>>340049818
No dpad no buy for me. You can't play fighting games without dpad, which is pretty much the only reason to buy a gamepad for pc,
>>340063796
Might as well play with the analog stick at that point. It'd be slightly less shit.
>>340064043
For what I know, Valve doesn't hire shills and hopes actual fans market their stuff enough. This is my impression of them.
inb4 "Sure thing shill"
>>340064617
Sure thing actual fan
>>340064231
I understand that. but it also fails to replace mouse and keyboard so I have yet to see any use for it. its worse than both.
>>340061279
>AMD GPU on linux
AMD drivers are barely there on Windows, on Linux you're going to have use 3rd party half assed drivers because the offical ones are pure shit that AMD doesn't care about updating more than once a year
>>340064779
its an intermediary. its better than using joy2key
its a viable option for the pc gaming industry. it works about 80% for controller games, and is the only viable controller for non controller based games (like civ series)
I love it for emulators.
What's the build quality of these things like anyway. Do they feel solid? Like they're going to last?
Post them desktop configs. I want to make mine better. That mode shifting is so that I can press Ctrl + F/C/V on the left pad.
>>340065625
It feels you could snap it in half with brute force but beyond that it feels it'll last for a long time
>>340056961
How come someone who remembers the desu wars fails to recognize a fucking wordfilter?
Shame on yo nigga @ss.
So much miss information about the controller holy shit.
Anyways I think the controller is solid and I love playing Anno 1404 and Endless Legend with it.
>>340049818
I was considering buying one but that d pad looks like shite.
Do these work with a lot of old school games?
I typically play PC for old school strategy, RPG, and sometimes shooters.
Think Civilization 5, Endless games, Baldur's Gate, Gothic, or FEAR.
>>340049818
Commercially, maybe, but the controller is really nice.
You really need at least two, though, if you plan on playing multiplayer.
It beats the shit out of analog stick precision, but is nowhere near as good as a mouse, so there's no way to balance against it without another controller.
>>340049818
i bought one but it doesn't show up in my games list anyone else have this
>>340065627
Mine is pretty much default. The bumpers are used for alt tabbing in windows, and control tabbing in chrome. I left pad click to alt/ctrl tab in the other direction.
99% of games on PC are either designed for mouse/keyboard or for an Xbox gamepad.
The Steam controller fills a very tiny niche where it's basically only useful for games that use mouse/keyboard, but don't need anything resembling precise controls (like Civ, Xcom, etc). And honestly, if I wanted to play civ on the couch, I'd rather just use a wireless mouse and a small board I can sit on my lap or whatever.
>>340066253
Ah right. Didn't know t b h filters to desu.
Test desu
>>340049818
Everywhere's putting it on sale lol.
>>340067019
Hardware never shows in your games list.
Controller is fine but a 2nd gen for some improvements could be made
The Biggest problem with it are people are fucking stupid and think its a replacement controller. It wont really replace any controller you own, what it will do is allow games that are KB+M only be played. also most controller support games work fine
>>340061185
The last time I used my steam controller, the game launched in big screen mode anyways if I had my controller plugged in meaning you lose out on non big picture stuff like fps counter.
>>340068336
Oh right that's true. The steam overlay changes itself to BPM overlay. For me it doesn't change a thing, only a graphical overhaul, but I can see it disturbing someone else.
>>340066605
How's the lolinco? Any problems with durability?
