Fallout 3 thread?
I'm enjoying the NV threads, and 3 deserves one. It might be a shit game, but it's at least "fun".
What mods you playing?
Fallout 3 is literal garbage.
>>340048292
Tale of Two Wastelands.
Fallout 3 did a lot wrong, but it held my hand during a very difficult time in my life so it gets a free pass.
/blog
>>340048292
Fallout 3 is fucking trash
>>340049002
>>340049365
there guys get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
>>340048292
Shoveitupyourass.esm is pretty good.FWE is fucking godly im disappointed Project Nevada didn't feel the same.
so much better than NV
>>340049498
>FWE is trash
>oh boy get to play as a ghoul that's fucking awesome
>talk to my first NPC who is a ghoul
>calls me a smoothskins and everyone treats me like a human
>uninstall.exe
>>340049656
I was talking more about the combat and the amount of items and drugs.
Especially the drugs.
>>340049656
>>340049832
You don't even have 100$, obsidrone
>>340049960
kekd
>>340050050
I don't care about Obsidan or Bethesda.
Fallout 3 is a genuinely bad game, while NV is an okay game that relies heavily on mods.
>>340049440
This is a good review of 3.
>>340051438
Yeah, he nitpicks a few things, but overall he's on point.
Fallout 3 is one of those games that's good for just dicking around in. The writing is mostly garbage but no matter how hard I shit talk it, I still do new playthroughs every once in a while.
It stops being fun for me after you get too powerful, though. I had so much fun with it because because a clueless underpowered chucklefuck scraping to stay alive in the wasteland is fun, but you're bound to completely lose that after like level 6.
>>340049538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifYelSTlMo
>>340051848
>Fallout 3 is one of those games that's good for just dicking around in.
I hear that. Fallout 3's writing gets worse every time you play it, but there's still always shit to discover and explore.
I was expecting more of the same with Fallout 4, but it wasn't even fun to go through nooks and crannies in that game. Bethesda really dropped the ball there.
>>340049440
People wouldn't even post this guy if he made a video like this shit talking NV.
>>340053123
Tha'ts because he'd be wrong.
NV literally fixed everything fucked about 3 within the limitation of Bethesda's shitty engine .
>>340049440
>takes bloody mess perk
>wonders why people explode into a bloody mess
>>340053645
You don't even need that perk for it to happen several times.
>>340053645
You don't need the perk for frags to randomly activate.
His point is also they put most of their effort into the design of frags.
Which I have no trouble believing.
Rivet City best settlement
Megaton a shit.
Fallout 3 had great quest
>>340055023
rivet city is the only good thing about FO3
megaton is buttfuck retarded
>>340055106
No it had garbage liner quests.
New Vegas had great branching quests.
>>340055239
Rivet City is a pain in the dick to navigate and doesn't really feel like a community people live in.
>>340055342
Fallout 3 quest weren't linear
>>340048292
Is Three Dog the worst NPC Bethesda has ever created?
>>340049440
The autism during that VATS part is making me want to stop watching to be honest. He thought that was a good idea?
>>340055393
Yes they fucking were.
>>340055106
Some of them were alright but some of them were also dogshit which was hard to get away with since there were so few of them. It did seem that Bethesda still had some of that Oblivion quality questmaking going into the game. Like, the quests themselves weren't anything special but the way they were presented was i.e. the quest where you're supposed to kill ghoul bigots having that little plot twist about the ghoul faggot tricking you into hunting down his old squad and taking their shit so he can get some mad loot. It had some cool options in terms of how exactly you went about it and let you kind of figure shit out on your own even though when you get down to it, it was just another kill and fetch quest.
I still haven't played FO4 so I don't know what the sidequests were like but Skyrim had practically nothing like that so my faith in Bethesda's ability to write interesting quests is plummeting every day.
>>340055815
VATS is retarded console pandering garbage.
It should've just been a bullet time mechanic from the start.
>>340055819
No
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Tenpenny_Tower_(quest)
>>340055902
I'm talking about his autism when he was singing. Now he's screaming about how bad game journalists are.
Screaming.
>>340055342
>New Vegas had great branching quests.
I could fellate New Vegas all day long but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The main questline was miles above FO3's but the branching nature didn't change much except the banner you carried. There were some great sidequests with varied options in NV, but a huge chunk of them were just pretty standard fetch quests.
Fallout 3 is the only good one
>>340055902
it is similar to the combat system from the first two fallout games.
>>340055451
No, Moira is. She was the only forward thinking individual in FO3 who wanted to make immediate and useful changes to the way of life, which should have made her one of the best characters in the game, but she's deliberately written as an annoying cunt who no other character really takes seriously on account of her attitude and eccentricities. She's a testament to how little Bethesda actually understands the point of Fallout from a narrative standpoint.
>>340055918
oh wow one quest which again is two dimensional as fuck
>TFW can't get F3 to run on my PC
haven't played in years it would be about time to replay since i don't remember shit
>>340056018
Can you blame him? Modern game journalists are trash.
>>340056313
It was sort of necessary in the old games because of being a turn-based chance based system relying much more heavily on AP. It serves absolutely no purpose in the modern games except for OH SHIT I CAN'T AIM FOR MYSELF HELP
>>340056335
>She's a testament to how little Bethesda actually understands the point of Fallout from a narrative standpoint.
How do you mean?
Guys I'm playing this for the first time. I'm already in Megaton, any tips?
>>340056084
branching was so-so. i gave up when after killing ceasar and his generals bare handed in their tent no one gave a single fuck and NCR still bossed me around like i couldn't ass rape every single one of them.
these games need to work on handling power fantasies a bit better
>>340056602
It saves bullets, which are very valuable
>>340055342
Most sidequests in FO3 were actually alright in terms of options. Nothing incredibly nuanced or anything but they were rarely point A to point B and usually decent lengths. The mq on the other hand was irredeemable garbage, probably since Bethesda was under the impression that their story was actually good and didn't want things like choices or variety getting in the way of telling it.
>>340056621
Play New Vegas.
>>340056695
>it saves something that is abundant
>>340056621
do whatever the fuck you want really
megaton has the best home base for the player though so keep that in mind.
>>340056707
No there weren't they were all killing randoms or fetch quests. Just like 4.
>>340056564
Right now the best way to play f3 is through NV with the mod Tales of Two wastelands.
>>340056621
Don't destroy it. The rewards for doing so are shitty.
>>340056469
There's more than one quest
Most of fallout 3 quest had multiple ways to solve them
>>340056621
You have tow options.
Be a good guy = don't blow up Megaton
Be a bad guy = blow it up for absolutely no reason
>>340056940
I'll wait for you to list them.
The quest you linked is retarded. It's more simplistic shit.
Be a dick or don't. No middle ground, no branching. No middle ground.
>>340056615
The only character who is ready and willing to try to make a change and separate herself from the idealized old world and suffering of the wasteland is treated like a joke for an early game sidequest.
>>340056335
>everyone hates Moira because of her VA
>they don't realize she's the only decent NPC in the shitty game
kek it's like she's purposely being condescending for people who are clueless
>>340057064
>the quest you linked is retarded
How? There's no right answer in that quest
>>340057064
>standards are impossible to meet
>show me something I'll agree with even though i won't
typical /v/ meme, no one cares what you think
>>340057227
>help ghouls
>don't help ghouls
jesus I can't believe the depth
>>340056682
if you kill caesar then NPCs mention it. it's just not that big of a deal because you can't kill Legate Lanius until the endgame, who is the actual commander of the Legion's military force.
>>340057291
The ghouls literally kill everybody
>>340057282
>I've got nothing
>better greentext and cry about being on /v/
>>340057390
except it's the truth, you wouldn't say shit even if we gave you a complete list of all the quests with multiple choices so fuck off no one cares about your opinions
>>340057065
she's not treated like a joke. the megaton residents just say that she's a little looney, which is true.
>>340057368
Either they kill everybody or they don't. It's still two-dimensional.
>>340057064
As retarded as the writing in most quests are, that guy is right in saying they usually have multiple ways to go about them. Retarded vampire quest has different outcomes for the retarded vampire kid and the relationship between the town and the vampires. The one where you return to Vault 101 lets you side with the overseer, the citizens, or just fuck everyone over. The Oasis one gives you different ways to deal with Harold. The slave one has two options to side with.
The shitty narrative writing doesn't negate the fact that you do have somewhat of a choice in these quests.
>>340057478
>if we gave you a complete list of all the quests with multiple choices
go on
if you did this I'd actually replay the game with a less negative bias
>>340056970
>Be a bad guy = blow it up for absolutely no reason
The quest was seriously confusing. A random faggot just approaches you out of nowhere and tells you to blow up the town. He gives you no motivation for doing so, no clear reward, and no reason why you have to do it and he can't do it himself.
>>340056602
>Modern game journalists are trash
>modern
You're implying that they were better before and it wasn't the same trash every year. Before you list exceptions to that, there have been exceptions to this rule since the dawn of time as well.
>>340056621
Climb that mountain.
>>340057572
I guess the writing just fucked everything up and even made the good quests feel arbitrary.
>>340057493
She's practically designed for you to want to kill her.
>>340057595
Honestly the thing that made me drop Fallout 3 the first time I played it.
>>340057678
Game journos were nowhere NEAR this horrid in the early 90s.
EARLY 90s.
>>340057595
yea it's weird the guy doesn't just do it himself, it would have been better if the boss of tenpenny was the only quest giver because it's obvious he can't go into megaton
>>340057493
Yes she is. They purposely make her annoying, and her quests a chore.
>like new vegas more
>find most of the side quests to be really shitty and basic
Event the ones like Flags of Our Foul Ups where you've have plenty of options felt like a boring pointless slog.
focus on Moira is really just because she is by far the most accessible NPC in the game. You use her to sell shit for nearly half the game because megaton is arguably the best hub in the game.
>>340057595
I love how his explanation is I COULD DO IT BUT NAH
Even his boss' reasoning is shitty
Bravo Bethesda
>>340057939
>>like new vegas more
>>find most of the side quests to be really shitty and basic
I can't help your mental retardation.
>>340057901
i disagree about the quest, i thought it was great. especially investigating rivet city and going to that RobCo factory.
>>340057595
>tell the sheriff some faggot is gonna blow the town up
>sheriff tries to take him into custody
>immediately turns his back on the shady faggot and gets one shotted
How the hell did he wind up as sheriff
>>340057996
i like the bosses reasoning for blowing up megaton, it really set the tone of how cheap life was that some guy would blow up an entire town with a nuclear warhead just because it was an eyesore.
>>340057595
>blow up town killing several people
>dad is simply disappointed but he still loves you
>>340058119
her quests were literally fetch quests
>>340049440
Autism complains about shit that happens in 3 but not when it happens in NV also
>talking to Caesar made him litterally cry
I cant feel the fedora from here.
>>340058152
hard to see at night I guess
>>340058214
>character complexity presenting in well written dialogue is autism
remember Ceasar's history at least you faggot
>>340057996
It makes it worse that you're able to arm it in broad daylight surrounded by various NPCs.
>>340058343
Its autistic to cry at some dialouge that wasnt even meant to be sad. How euphoric do you have to be to cry at the words of a tribal leader with brain tumors
>>340058201
there were a couple fetch quests in there but like i said investigating rivet city, and then there's the RobCo factory where the objective is to download date from the mainframe. and you can reprogram them to fight each other which i got a kick out of. plus you can get that survival perk at the end based on how you explained your adventure to her.
>>340058479
>Its autistic to cry at some dialouge that wasnt even meant to be sad
wow you missed the point completely
it was a joke referencing how NV actually had depth as opposed to 3
>>340058075
It's so much better for role playing and the characters and world were way more interesting but god damn the quests for the most part were boring.
>>340058479
>guy makes a joke
>HAHAHA HE LITERALLY CRIED
come on it's obvious he was just relieved there was a way to downtalk C.Salad as opposed to saying hey don't be a bad guy in 3
>>340057939
New vegas side quests are by far the most numerous and best of the 3d fallouts,
>>340058201
Modern Bethesda is terrified of penalizing the player in any meaningful way. They think the best way to draw in an audience is to let you do anything with hardly a slap to the wrist for horrific crimes against humanity.
>>340058479
>>340058479
Not him, but I'm pretty sure it was a joke.
British sarcasm is pretty blatant, and dry.
I think he meant to say 3 was so garbage that finally having a Fallout with narrative complexity (even though it wasn't as complex as 1) was a relief after he'd given up hope.
the guy nitpicks stupid shit but that wasn't one of them
>>340058479
>that wasnt even meant to be sa
Yes it was. You realize Caesar is just a butthurt child who killed hundreds of people out of spite because he's an idiot with an inferiority complex.
>>340059186
>They think the best way to draw in an audience is to let you do anything with hardly a slap to the wrist for horrific crimes against humanity.
Well, you do have Three Dog constantly bitching at you on the radio.
>>340059398
reminds me of hitler actually
>>340059469
oh wow what a deterrent
>>340048292
Oh im using the mod that tells me im a fucking faggot for installing Fallout 3 and not New Vegas
>>340059631
There's a JSawyer mod of FO3?
>>340059284
>British sarcasm is pretty blatant, and dry.
I've never understood why British humor is so dry. Kinda charming though.
>>340059601
the regulators, if you have very evil karma you have to fight them every day. when you get to level 20 they're buff as fuck and carry laser weapons.
>>340059803
and by the time you get to level 20 they're a joke
>>340059469
>>340059803
Being meaninglessly berated by a biased asshole on an optional radio station and getting ambushed by mercs for not being completely neutral aren't exactly significant repercussions.
Fallout 3 is meh, but Fallout 4 is holy fuck levels of bad.
>oh boy a merc group Gunners
>I wonder if I can recruit someone from them
>walk up to one
>starts shooting me for no reason
ok
>oh boy Children of Atom let's hear what they have to say in this game
>walk up to them
>they shoot me dealing 294348959 points of rads
ok
>>340049440
>Fallout 3 didn't know what it wanted to be
I feel that.
>>340059963
still very dangerous for a low level character though, since they carry combat shotguns and chinese assault rifles at that level. if you decide to be an edgelord when you get out of the vault you're gonna be in for a nasty surprise. i thought that was pretty cool. and you can join them later, even if you're still evil.
>>340060520
> if you decide to be an edgelord when you get out of the vault you're gonna be in for a nasty surprise
What, having to find bottles of water and a hobo?
Oh you ment the hitmen guys
>>340060520
>still very dangerous for a low level character though
Not really.
Hide behind something and shoot them.
The AI is so bad they take no tactical high-ground. They pretty much just stand still or run side to side.
>>340049440
This video would be about an hour shorter if he didn't cherry pick everything to hell and back. He brings up some good points but fuck's sake man move on.
>>340056313
Not in the slightest.
FO1 and FO2 didn't give you massive damage reduction for you to wail on the enemy with.
Called shots are not nearly the same as VATS.
>>340057763
NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS DONT TURN YOU INTO A GHOUL BETHESDA
THEY TURN YOU INTO FUCKING DEAD
REE
>>340061623
where does he nitpick
>>340057595
>no motivation
Tenpenny though Megaton was an eyesore.
>no reward
You get a fuck ton of caps plus a penthouse suite.
Reminder that both Moriarty and Tenpenny came from Europe.
Still don't know where the fuck Dukov came from.
>>340062557
>Tenpenny though Megaton was an eyesore
>barely can be seen
>eyesore
>implying that's even a legitimate reason to enable genocide
You're an idiot.
>you get something you can have an almost infinite amount of and a base you already have at megaton
>>340062936
>barely can be seen
Can you even actually see it from his balcony? I'm pretty sure it just blends in with the horizon from far away just like everything else in the distance.
>>340063418
It is NOWHERE NEAR being an etesore in a terrain of nothing but literal shit. Even with high quality you can barely see a dome shape in the distance. The writing in Fallout 3 is just baby puke.
It's not a sound reason whatsoever.
>>340049440
The shit he says about people missing liberty prime has less to do with people focusing too much on their compass/not enough on the gameworld and more to do with the fact that FO3's color palette and art direction is so fucking terrible that he just blends in as another forgettable prop at first.
>>340064005
and yet has to do more with people looking at the arrow and redirecting themselves to leave it in the middle
>>340056871
That's a blatant lie.
The quests all have multiple choices to the extent where it's possible to do them all without killing anything.
Have some examples:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Those!
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/You_Gotta_Shoot_'Em_in_the_Head
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_Ties
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Oasis_(quest)
Do your research before you shit on something.
>>340064316
where did dr. lesko obtain FEV for his fire ant experiments
>>340064556
Probably near Vault 87, since they were doing FEV related experiments there.
>>340064316
>quests still have only 2 options
wow do deep
>>340064686
but vault 87 is surrounded by an unlimited horde of dangerous super mutants
and the FEV is located inside vault 87, which is impenetrable
and the super mutants were running out of FEV anyway
>>340064923
>What are mercenaries for
>>340064990
anon do you understand what the word impenetrable is
>>340064923
He might have come across a shipment of the stuff that was en route to the Vault, but couldn't make it before the bombs fell.
The fact he doesn't disclose were he got it from just makes it more interesting.
>>340065439
or maybe dr. lesko used some eldritch magics to summon FEV from the aether
making things up is pretty cool
that would be pretty interesting too i guess
>>340064923
Holy shit, I find more plot holes the more I think about this fucking game, as if Little Lamplight wasn't enough. Fallout 3 is literally the Ultima IX of Fallout. 4 is just salt on the wound.
>>340065439
>the fact that there is no logical explanation for something means it's good because I can make shit up based on no actual in-game evidence
>>340065729
It worked for the Souls games. :^)
>>340065873
time is convoluted on the east coast
thats how vault tec built a vault to study FEV five years before FEV even existed
:^)
>>340065873
We're not talking about the Souls games :^)
>>340065704
>spoony
oh man his Fallout 2 video was hilariously embarrassing.
>>340065704
Don't forget that it is impossible for super mutants to make more of themselves because anyone they kidnap would die instantly to the 3,600 rads/second at the entrace of Vault 87.
>>340066414
Considering Moira got fucking exploded and immediately turned into a ghoul, Bethesda would probably handwave it by saying that exposure to that much radiation is what turns them into mutants.
i recently finished it with all of the dlc and i have to say, fuck all the dlc.
>>340062324
Then it's a god thing she was out of town when the blast hit.
Fallout 3 had its moments. Some NPCs, locations and sidequests were good. Also point lookout was a great dlc. Everythinv else was trash, but these moments made it so much better than Fallout 4
>>340067185
I hate this explanation because you we're "out of town" too and experience no adverse effects, so she had to be close by. Was she in Springvale or something?
Also the fact that she somehow doesn't notice she's a ghoul is retarded.
>>340067093
It's happening again. How in the fuck did Moira become a ghoul instantly when the process takes 3 weeks to months? Killing Moira has more ramifications than blowing up fucking Megaton. Think about that
>>340067942
Are there any other significant quests in that town unrelated to the bomb other than Wasteland Survival Guide? The only one I can think of is dealing with that one dude's drug addiction and that's not even a real quest, it's unmarked.
>>340068685
Not that I came across. There's Jericho, but nobody actually likes him. You can circumvent Megaton entirely for the main quest by heading to Rivet City or that Vault dad is in, which leaves basically nothing else
>TFW Been playing TTW FO3 and have been enjoying it
Not sure why, The NV Engine makes a big difference it seems, also TTW Interiors is awesome as well.
>>340068685
You can start Blood Ties there, you can do a debt collection job or Moriarty, and you can help fix the leaking water pipes if you have a high enough Repair skill.
The main function of Megaton from a gameplay perspective is to introduce you to the world by having you talk to other characters who mention locations you can visit and tidbits of lore.
>>340070046
Both games run on the same engine, it's just that NV's gameplay has some tweaks and advantages that makes the game bearable to play outside of VATS
>>340070561
Yeah thats what i more mean, Ironsights, Hardcore Mode, DT System, Better weapon selection, etc... Just makes FO3 A much better game
>>340056335
I love Moira, I never fail to laugh at her and her quest is fun to me atleast.
>>340070046
You're an idiot.play a record
>>340064274
>TFW I'm guilty of this and never notived until now
but honestly how else are you supposed to direct someone in an open world first person/third person game
>>340071883
"Leave from here and go North/East/South/West"
Pretty simple anon
>>340071883
The funny thing about it is that if you ignore the quest marker, FO3 becomes an infintely better game since you just got to the first thing you're drawn to.
Why they didn't have an option to toggle it off in the options menu is beyond me.
>>340049440
Holy shit this guy's comments about how your dad is the real main character for the first half of the game made me realize why FO3 is no fun for me to roleplay in. The LW isn't really a character, or at least not a character who actually does anything of note. The narrative sets them up as a sort of messianic exile but during the main quest someone else is in charge or in focus. The LW is more like a vehicle through which you experience the shitty story Bethesda puts in front of you. You're never actually part of the game, like you should be in an RPG, you're just a bystander.
NV managed to have a more engaging protag and they were just some random mailman, but at least that mailman gets to do their own shit and be the actual main character.
>>340049498
the survivalist layer of FWE would make zero sense for a developed region like New Vegas
>>340071883
>but honestly how else are you supposed to direct someone in an open world first person/third person game
By actually directing them through world design/dialogue and not just giving them an arrow to follow.
>obsidianiggers
>>340048292
Game's all right if you get FWE, forget its supposed to be the same setting as Fallout and play it like Stalker with shitty writing
The same will be true of Fallout 4 if someone makes a similar overhaul
>>340073328
>You have to be a fanboy of one company to call out the bullshit of another
>>340073316
So why didn't F3 do this?
>>340058152
IIRC, he just sort of fell into the role of trying to keep the peace and no one pushed for anyone better.
They weren't swimming in options. Jericho's pretty much the only one who can actually fight, and he's a ex-raider rapist.
>>340058403
You were first seen talking to Primm when you stepped into town, who seems pretty gung-ho about getting people to disarm the bomb. To a layman, I figure disarming it doesn't look much different than arming it.
Why did Dad design a water purifier that could dump a shitload of radiation into the control room as a "trap"
How does Col Autumn survive the radiation "trap"
How does the "trap" even work considering the water purifier is not finished and not active when Dad activates it
>>340074431
Because it's deliberately dumbed-down in an attempt to appeal to a wide audience
>>340075191
I'm pretty sure it wasn't an intentional trap, it was just Dad knowing that his shitty purifier was broken as hell and taking advantage of that by breaking it even harder
>>340075191
Why didnt they just use a really long stick to input the code and start the purifier instead of waltzing into the deadly radiation that they know is there
>>340076137
Why didn't the Enclave use one of their robots to brute force the code
Inputting the wrong code causes another "radiation spike" but a robot won't give a shit
Or use a captured ghoul at gunpoint
I don't care what /v/ thinks.
Fallout 3 was a great game, still is one and everyone else who thinks it's not just because of a few bugs, not the best writing, MUH LORE or MUH REALISM can go choke while sucking their own, filthy dick.
I have nostalgia for Fallout 3 but I'm afraid to go back and play it again in fear of /v/ being correct
Fallout 4 was my favorite game last year though who the fuck knows
>Oasis
>Secret underground bunkers
>Best radio
>Best atmosphere
>Best characters
>Best setting
>Best DLC
>Absolutely shitty aging
>Looks terrible
I love it but it has aged like milk
>>340076401
when was the last time you played it? how much of it did you play of it?
>>340076345
"Would you like access to one of the strongest sources of radiation in the entire wasteland?"
"We'll pay you 200 caps an hour if you type codes in, and then write them down on this piece of paper when they fail"
>>340077545
>Ghouls sign up left and right and get high as fuck from mega rads
>Bigass line of ghouls at the Jefferson Memorial
>When they input the wrong one they go to the back of the line, waiting for their next rad fix
Been a while since I had 3 installed, but I had fun. I don't deny its flaws though, and I enjoyed NV more. Just started playing 1, I'd like to get through the classics before I touch 4.
its not possible for a fun game to be garbage
manbabies who (correctly) believe that new vegas is the superior game in nearly every way, can't wrap their head around the fact that "some people just want to watch the world after it's burned"
I consider exploring the metro tunnels in FO3 to be the best video game experience of the past 10 years, because it's been forever since I've played a game that drops me in an actual maze, with compelling locations to discover.
>>340077317
>Best DLC
PL was great. The Pitt was alright. BS was only good for continuing after the mq. The other two are garbage.
>>340048292
No it's not.
>>340077771
>I consider exploring the metro tunnels in FO3 to be the best video game experience of the past 10 years
>compelling locations
You had me for a minute there.
>>340077909
the irony is that the tweens who really like new vegas but didn't actually play the old games don't understand the idea of being dropped in a maze and having to map it out themselves
the closest they've ever gotten to a challenge involving maps was etrian oddyssey
you can't actually call them 'underage' though, because then they stop thinking completely and go back to chanting alahu courier, alahu alahu akbar
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Technically it would matter to a robot
The radiation spike would fry it's processor/motherboard et.
But Bethesda most likely will ignore that though
