Nintendo @ E3 2016
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Am I the only one who thinks that Nintendo has been behaving strangely, especially so close to E3?
Nintendo has decided to showcase The Legend of Zelda this year at E3, revealing it as their only playable game at this year's conference, with an entire booth dedicated to allowing visitors to experience extended playsessions. Rather than having a presentation or a Digital Event, Nintendo has announced they will only do Treehouse Live that will play through the entire 3 days of E3.
Each day highlights a new game/title:
Day 1: Q&A with the developer of Pokemon GO, followed by a presentation on Pokemon Sun/Moon.
Day 2: Presentation of Legend of Zelda, followed by Treehouse antics.
Day 3: Presentation of DragonQuest VII, more Treehouse antics.
Day 1 is dedicated to Pokemon, one of Nintendo's largest and most successful franchises. It goes without saying that Pokemon fans would love to get their hands on Sun/Moon, but Nintendo is not offering that. Instead they are offering Zelda for all 3 days.
On top of this, information about Pokemon Sun/Moon and the beta launch of Pokemon GO have basically taken all of the steam out of how great the presentation would be. Why would Nintendo pass on the prospect of revealing the new beginner Pokemon at E3, and why would they start the GO beta before E3?
It is my suspicion that Nintendo will showcase The Legend of Zelda on the completed NX console this year at E3. And I have some ideas to back me up.
First of all, we are focussing on Nintendo's largest portable franchise on Day 1, giving all of the current demographic everything they want. Day 2 we are focusing on Zelda, which means we will be focussing as Zelda being played on NX. This means that, by Day 3 when they discuss DragonQuest VII, and known NX title, it won't be so crazy for people to wrap their heads around.
TL;DR: Nintendo is going to showcase Zelda on NX this year at E3, and we're going to have a front-row seat via Treehouse.
Are you hype yet, /v/?
>>340030491
not at all
nintendo is cool, fuck noa
no
You shall suffer this e3, nintendorks
>>340030491
Do we know when the direct is going to be?
>>340031212
there has not been an announcement yet, but I assume it will be sometime after E3
If I've learned one thing about Nintendo in the recent years, it's to never expect anything from their presentations.
Trying to apply common sense to Nintendo just leads nowhere
>>340031741
You may be right, but with the prospects of what NX is going to be, it would only make sense to reveal it in a way that lets people experience what it's capable of and what you can do with it. I'm not saying that they're going to tell us everything, but I don't think it's too farfetched to think that they have a few hundred units lying around, especially when they've only just recently pushed back the reveal date in leu of VR.
>"open world meme" zelda
>Sticker star 2
>Tokyo censored sessions
>delayung the NX to add VR to what is probably already an underpowered system
>because we're all dying to play mario VR
I cant wait for these fucks to go third party.
>>340031910
good thing that I hacked my 3ds
>>340031910
>NX to VR
>believing that shitty rumor
I bet you believed the fake controller leak too retard
>>340031212
There's no direct for E3.
>>340031910
Have you played Star Fox Zero? You would shit yourself if you played that in VR. And don't pretend like MK8 wouldn't be fucking awesome in VR, going inverted and feeling seasick from the motion.
>>340030491
>Why would Nintendo pass on the prospect of revealing the new beginner Pokemon at E3
Because Pokemon Company DID IT ALREADY on YouTube.
They have nothing.
Iwata burned down Nintendo and all their new games the night before he died. They've been scrambling to cope using nothing but the one copy of Illusionary #FE and a beta of Starfox Zero they managed to save from the fire.
>declare you're not going to show your new console
>reveal the new console to reduced press attention
I doubt it.
>>340031910
>third party.
I'll bite, just to get the thread going.
If they die, their IPs go with them. This has been said in the past. I'm sorry, but you're not getting Zelda on the PS4 so you can then be ALLOWED to enjoy it.
>>340032037
The first time Star Fox story wasn't interesting enough to keep me playing a slow-paced arcade shooter. The third or fourth time around it having even worse controls made it even less fun.
It genuinely feels like a chore. Why would I play it?
>Why would Nintendo pass on the prospect of revealing the new beginner Pokemon at E3
They already revealed popplio, Rowlett , and litten.
>>340032137
Yeah, and if Steam goes they'll release all their products for free :^)
Stop being such a gullible fucking shitlord
>>340032086
>Iwata
Miyamoto was the mastermind behind the Wii U. That's why he isn't on the NX dev team. And they fucked him over with Star Fox.
>Prove this shit console is worth something!
>Ok, i'll make Star Fox with dual screen.
They're announcing nothing because all game development has been shifted towards NX. They're letting the Wii U and 3DS die already with Zelda and Pokemon being the last noteworthy titles for the systems.
Then they're going to reveal NX later this year along with all the launch titles and shit.
>>340032137
Not that anon, but SEGA.
>>340032071
that's exactly what I mean, you dummy. why would they allow that to happen when they could have made it a huge part of their Pokemon presentation?
They don't want to highlight Pokemon because NX is gonna be hype as fuck.
>>340032086
Roadmaster, I will miss you eternally...
>>340032116
Reduced? They'd be releasing it to the internet for 3 days, friend. Everyone would lose their fucking minds, everyone would be reporting about it. Sony and Microsoft, talked about some stuff that's not out. We PLAYED AN NX!
>>340032165
To me it's a hard game that requires practice to master. Games don't really showcase that anymore, but it's something that makes games great. You're not meant to beat it in a night, you're meant to keep playing, get better, shoot for a high score.
Stuff like that really makes me like Nintendo/Sega.
>>340032308
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
Okay, now in your own words. Reply to my comment because all you did was talk to yourself.
>>340032306
You could very well be right. I just think it odd that they'd flake on E3 when they have such a steam train behind NX. I'm not gonna be heartbroken, but I think what would solidify people wanting to purchase the system for themselves would be to actually see it and learn about it. It's an open window.
>>340032306
this really isn't rocket science, yeah.
and of course because gaming consumers are extremely fickle, they only need like 2 or 3 NX games people want to get that ball rolling
>>340032376
sure, which one was you?
>>340032308
>this is /v/
>>340032393
They're not revealing NX at E3 because they don't want to be overshadowed by other announcements.
They want to strike when nothing is going on so all eyes get on them.
>>340032448
if you can't tell you probably are doing something wrong and should apply it to every reponse you think is valid. Because you might've replied to me more than once
I have an idea that could save the dying Nintendo but I don't want them to steal it
>>340032308
Nx isn't going to be revealed at this E3, and Nintendo has stated that
>>340032393
That worked so well last time. Oh wait.
Well, the time before it... oh wait.
Can you feel it, mr.krabs?
>>340032481
so sorry i am from across the street.
i just want talk bout video games, mister
>>340032521
you're not going to say something retarded like "hurrr powerful console" or "hurrr new F-Zero" are you?
Nintendo are fumbling. Floundering. It's like the last act of a dying man.
>>340032521
Good. Take it to the grave and an hero.
>>340030491
it's been an awful, awful year for nintendo. i'm a huge nintenfag but i don't expect anything good from them this e3.i'm still assravaged about pic related
Nintendo aren't going to suprise us with an NX announcement.
They are going to make sure it's a big event where everyone is expecting it and hyped for it.
Lots of people won't even be tuning into Nintendo's stream now given they expect it to be Zelda and next month's releases.
>>340032521
Seems smart. Could only imagine what it would be like to be a fresh nintendy IP and not have anywhhere to go in a year or so because of my gimmick controllers.
>>340032498
The audience is not just the people at the conference. Nintendo will have extended time with the online audience, and they can do whatever they choose in that time.
>>340032553
not saying a full reveal, just that people will be playing Zelda on NX and that we'll see it, get opinions on it. Nothing official until the Direct.
>>340032672
I still play my console quite a lot. I think that the content I have on all my games is enough to keep me entertained. But I do wish that I were better at Pokken,
>>340032723
until people hear that the crowd is playing Zelda on NX!
>>340032306
>We never got an Animal Crossing WiiU.
>A game that could have put that retarded gamepad to actual good use, for inventory/map shit.
>>340032672
Animal Crossing has been bastardized to hell.
New Leaf was fine, sure.
Then it was that shitty home designer minigame sold as full retail title.
Then the amiibo party shit.
Now they're talking about how the series is going to be on mobile.
I have just lost all faith for the series. All I wanted was Animal Crossing U for full HD comfy. Instead I get shameless, mediocre cashgrabs.
OP, you are a dumbfuck, like usual.
They said no NX at E3. There won't be anything NX related at E3.
They will show Zelda Wii U, no matter if you like it or not.
But to me, it seems you purposely want to be disappointed. Learn to keep your expectations in check, guys, unlike OP.
>>340032724
Yeah I'll make it myself and only have Nintendo publish it after I patent it if they agree on using their money to help their economy and people survive
But if they went 3rd party, you could be neighbors with all your steam friends.
>>340032672
considering this game came into existance because the Animal Crossing devs kept being busy with Splatoon, I must unfortunately say that it was worth the trade-off.
>>340032808
>tfw it will have normal gameplay but easier and dumbed down and worse than it's older versions.
Fucking why?
>>340032841
Some of us can still dream, Anon. I'm sorry you're so bitter. Just because a company says something doesn't mean it's 100% true. It's the quiet before the storm.
And don't worry about me, I've already shed my tears. Just, whisper a smile into your heart, ok? Live a little. Dream of better tomorrows.
>>340032904
Fuck pedo paint.
Im so sick of the praise that shit gets.
Mario made something other than a platformer, lets pretend its goty material, hurr
>>340032574
>pokemon
Gamefreak is celebrating their 20th.
>surprise NX
You sound like you're 10 "guys, but what if they drop a new console unannounced and btfo of everyone?"
I'm not going to waste energy explaining why that's dumb.
>not meant to beat SF in a night
... anon.
>>340032940
>Woah, mayor! You have cut 10 trees today! You should rest and wait tomorrow, or you can pay $0.25 to refill your energy!
>>340033001
Cucked
>>340033000
>>340032940
It's become ninjewdo
>>340033005
>>340032808
i hope to god you're both wrong
>>340032904
the announcement got me good. i mean look at it! i was really expecting a main serie AC game
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIveAP_wtg
>>340031910
>"open world meme" zelda
It's not a meme when the series STARTED as an open world game you fucking cunt
>delayung the NX to add VR to what is probably already an underpowered system
This is nothing but another baseless internet rumor
>>340033004
game freak could have been showcased their 20th at E3 with a big conference about Sun/Moon. They don't have the same time constraints as they do in a presentation with Treehouse.
It's not like the console is a mystery. It's openly in development and even has a launch date. The original launch date was around this time, so if they have even 100 consoles they can let people play on it and get some feedback from an unsuspecting group. Their floorspace at E3 makes me believe that they expect hundreds of people to be in their booth at all times.
And I'm not saying I didn't beat it in a night, but I surely didn't unlock all of the paths and content.
>>340033146
>i hope to god you're both wrong
It has already begun
>>340033220
Name one Zelda game where dungeons aren't instanced.
>>340032793
* This post was brought to you by a member of the Nintendo public relations team.
>>340033289
The original and ALBW
>>340033295
I'll be signing autographs in the bathroom if you'd like to come check out some of my sweet insider leaks.
>>340033146
I feel your pain anon and I can completely understand why you guys still have a bitter taste in your mouth.
However, I also think there's a clear silver lining on the horizon. Of course, I mean Animal Crossing on NX. Perhaps even a launch title because? And that game won't involve rolling dice.
I suspect a Wii U game was supposed to be released, but ultimately moved to NX like many other games.
>>340032626
This. Nintendo needs to die, so no one should try to save it. Something good can come from its death.
>Like Treehouse's and NoA's destruction
>>340033289
The Legend of Zelda, for one.
>>340032957
It's not a matter of bitterness. It's a matter of using your brain.
Somthing NXfags can't grasp at all. They said no NX, there won't be the NX. It's not rocket science, there is no good reason to delude and disappoint yourself purposely.
IF they will announce something new, it will be a holidays 3DS title. That's it.
>>340033404
Where are you getting this information that NX has been cancelled?
>>340033463
he means at E3 you donut.
Banking on a Zelda game to carry E3 is a foolish move. Yes the fanboys are loud, but the cold hard fact is that the best selling game in the series (Ocarina of Time) only sold around 8 million copies worldwide not counting remakes. Pretty measly pickings compared with top selling Mario and Pokemon titles.
Nintendo should have focused more on Pokemon Sun and Moon reveals.
>>340033496
I am going to bully you.
Whoever the new head is has that poisonous old mindset of "overseas don't matter" that lots of japanese companies like 10 years ago had so much issues with. Their power makes them just as pig headed as any CEO but their culture makes them not even notice it and unable to adapt. It was a miracle Iwata did as much as he did working with overseas markets before he died given how closed he used to be to any input from the west.
>>340033463
Why am I even trying to talk with this kind of people, goddamn it.
>>340033518
I thought TP was the best selling Zelda game.
>>340033518
>Nintendo won't reveal anything at E3
I never understood this assumption. Why wouldn't they reveal something? They only said Zelda would be their only game at E3. It wouldn't be farfetched to think that they'd announce a game that isn't physically there on the show floor.
>He hasn't hacked his 3DS
Literally no excuse
>>340033496
Oh, heh.
>>340033404
You could be right, but I just can't understand ignoring such an interest from the community. Nintendo is usually very vocal and suddenly stopped after Iwata's passing. I feel that it could be because the next thing they do has to be radical.
>>340033518
I agree, which is why I think they'll only be showcasing Zelda because it's being developed with the NX in mind, and will be played on NX at the show.
>>340033587
We can all learn things from each other, Anon. Even dummies like me can learn stuff from angry apples like you.
>>340033617
Exactly, it's E3 for crying out loud!
>>340033545I wish you would, anon. My asshole hasn't seen action in weeks.
>>340030491
Nintendo is focusing on restructuring their overseas departments and landings deal with other companies on new ventures. In regards to the restructuring, you didn't hear this from me but they plan on doing massive lay offs of the North American branch because it's been hemorrhaging money, this probably has something to do with what Chris Pranger stated a few years back about the localization teams making unnecessary changes to games to get a bigger payout but the games themselves don't earn back enough to make the difference.
>>340030491
>we're going to have a front-row seat via Treehouse
Not even trying to hide the fact that you're shilling for Nintendo with a line like that
>>340033709
Do they really need an NA branch when they can just broadcast Directs to the world and pay a few translators to write subtitles?
>>340033749
I'm just a fanboy, I don't make any money. The only reason I even bring this up is because I'm interested to see what NX is, and I think it would be fucking amazing to showcase it to an unsuspecting group live on the internet.
>>340033617
I think it's likely they'll announce new 3DS games at the very least
>>340033709
>they plan on doing massive lay offs of the North American branch
PLS BE TRUE!
>>340033843
>pay a few translators to write subtitles
Its a matter of reaching out to your customers. Not a lot of Americans wanna hear moonspeak.
>wii u bombed so hard it's being canned early without a single memorable or big selling game
>the wii u generation will only be remembered for amiibos
>nintendo are pushing in to mobage
>b-b-b-b-but NX is gonna change the face of gaming guys!!!! you have to give miyamoto your spirit energy!!!!!!
nintenyearolds are the worst cancer of all. stockholm syndrome from a corporate company that couldn't give 2 shits about them outside of their money and most of them probably aren't even old enough to remember when Nintendo was still good
>>340033709
As long as they fire the schmucks that translate over in NA I'm happy.
Just keep Reggie though, I don't give a shit what others think of him right now, I still love that guy.
>>340033917
Are you kidding me? All Nintendo fans are weeaboo.
>>340033843
>Do they really need an NA branch when they can just broadcast Directs to the world and pay a few translators to write subtitles?
BUT WHO WILL ADD THE EPIC MEMES AND HUMOR NINTENDO IS SO WELL KNOWN FOR?
>>340033971
>/v/ is the whole world
You're right. My mistake.
>>340033946
Who are you even referring to in this thread, retard?
>>340033971
>this is what neotendo faggot believe
>>340033946
>Mario 3D World
>Bayonetta 2
>Mario Kart 8
>Splatoon
>Sm4sh
I disagree.
>>340034009
I can't wait for them to drop an "anime fan on prom night" meme into the next #FE trailer
>>340033959
>Just keep Reggie though
Good goy! Keep beliving in the marketing! Reggie is absolutely your friend... And you know what would make him happy? Buy some more season passes, buy an extra season pass or two. Reggie's vacation home ain't gonna pay for itself
>>340033946
>without a big selling game
How are those crows and dicks coming along, anon?
>>340034009
wow, I didn't even think of this. thanks for clearing that up!
>>340034028
thanks for accepting me, friend!
>>340034041
>yes
>>340034112
You're welcome,friend :')
>>340034061
>Implying that hiring anyone else for his position would be any different
You have to be a fucking retard if you think that hiring someone else to replace Reggie would somehow make a difference, it's going to be a suit that's hired to maximize profits either way.
At least Reggie is entertaining and good at PR.
>>340033843
I think you've bought into /v/'s censorship meme and don't realize that NoA does more than just translate.
They still do marketing, publishing, distribution, maintenance (i.e. making NA servers and keeping them running), acting as communication channel for NA developers (i.e. Retro, indie studios), and customer support.
>>340034053
>>Mario 3D World
forgettable shit literally nobody will remember this fondly like real 3D marios
>>Mario Kart 8
forgettable like every other mario kart
>>Splatoon
sold well and then forgotten in the blink of an eye, only played by japs
I'll give you bayonetta and smash but they're hardly games of the generation like previous consoles had are they? Smash is gonna sell no matter what because it's a nintendrone essential, but outside of that nobody cares.
Where's the wii u equivalent of Sunshine, Galaxy, Ocarina, Metroid, etc? The classics that everyone, no matter their interest can agree were amazing and defined a generation
>>340034176
you forgot research, too. NoA tested the wii a lot in at least California.
>>340030491
>Am I the only one
back to 9gag
>iwata was the cancer who started the Wii, Wii U and mobile games
>miyamoto literally hates games and the people who play them, he's lost all spark for innovation and fun and just wants to churn out endless shit because plot sucks and fun sucks
kinda sad that it's too late to stop their reign of tyranny. I bet iwata is laughing it up in gook hell right now, sitting on his pile of money and sheckles
>>340034176
A fair point. Maybe they're just planning on gutting their infrastructure and only concern themselves with digital distribution, maintenance, and customer support.
>>340034265
I think that every console has a limited amount of games that are legendary. I have purchased a large portion of the library, and I'd say that I got my money's worth from most of the games. Some of the titles I could have lived without owning, but overall I'd say that most of the titles that I've purchased were fun and enjoyable, even if not the best games of all time.
Bayonetta 2, though.
>>340034320
Sorry, I am from THE internet
>>340034460
>I think that every console has a limited amount of games that are legendary.
Wii U has none
Source: I've owned every nintendo console and handheld except NES
The bitterness of the Nintendo fanbase is really joy killing.
Actually, the bitterness of some specific fanbases in the Nintendo fanbase.
People that unironically want a company dead, people that think they have all the keys to commercial success and act like some kind of elighted backseat CEO, people that can't grasp their favourite series is niche at best and finally people that look at Nintendo without taking in consideration the transformations of the videogame market and of other videogames companies as well.
Example, those that complain about Nintendo's mobile games. They act all mad and shit but they don't see ALL companies in the world jumped on mobile too. Nintendo would have been stupid NOT doing it.
This is just one example though. The worst thing are people mixing their own tastes and opinions into an argument, pretending it's "honest criticism".
Really, at this point, I hope Nintendo actively tries to drop this ball and chain called "old Nintendo fanbase".
We old fans are doing more harm than good to Nintendo. I really hope Nintendo will find a new and fresh fanbase to start over again, because we old fans are clearly out of touch and we are just ungrateful nostalgia-filled babies, babies that want their toys to be like they want or else they will cry non stop.
I really feel like an outsider, still enjoying their games and accepting the fact they are not flawless, not every game they make is golden, this happens since the NES days.
>>340033876
I'm not sure, it sounds like they're going to show games that are already announced, like Federation Force or MH Generations.
>>340033289
Ocarina of Time if you're good enough
>>340030491
>Rather than having a presentation or a Digital Event, Nintendo has announced they will only do Treehouse Live that will play through the entire 3 days of E3.
What? Really? Is there a source on this? What the fuck?
>>340034592
That makes you pretty awesome.
I owned an NES, 64, Wii, and WiiU, plus some GameBoy's.
>>340034652
I still have a lot of hope for Nintendo, and I'm ok with being an outsider in that. I get a lot of joy out of my Nintendo consoles, and have spent countless hours on my DS and WiiU. I love the motion controls and I even think that Amiibo are cool ways to offer bonus content and unlockables: this is just the future of the gaming world.
I play Miitomo for coins, and I have a Nintendo account. It's part of what makes Nintendo fun.
So I just hope for the best. I'll be happy with whatever Nintendo does at E3, NX showing or not. I just think it would be genius, and I feel like people would lose their minds if they got a chance to play it.
>>340034652
This.
It's still stupid as fuck how people are going "NINTENDO ARE BEING JEWS" and shit when they're the publisher and company that has waited the longest with the whole mobile shit and DLC, and even with DLC they haven't been too horrible about it since Amiibos can be used on other consoles and generally just unlock cosmetic shit anyway, in most cases you can even unlock said shit by just playing the game.
Meanwhile, no one seems to give a shit about Square-Enix and other companies publishing games on mobile phones with microtransactions and everything.
>>340034652
>People that unironically want a company dead
>the Nintendo fanbase
They're not the fanbase, most are falseflag shitposters and the rest have an "allegiance" to another company, and there is a large overlap
>>340034665
It could go either way, a new game is still "upcoming"
>>340034846
>forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/06/03/nintendo-is-showing-more-than-just-zelda-at-e3-after-all-but-still-no-nx/#2bfc4c3b7c2e
it's all over the web
>>340034924
FUCKING NINTENDO
THE NINTENDO CONFERENCE IS THE ONE THING I LOOK FORWARD TO AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GIVE ME THAT
INCOMPETENT FUCKING RETARDS I HOPE YOU CRASH AND BURN
>>340032037
Starfox Zero is fucking terrible and borderline idiotic. Even without the stupid controls, the game is mediocre at best and insulting at worst (the """stealth""" mission on Zoness that amounts to 30 minutes of moving back and forth to press buttons in a pointlessly awkward way, a straight up copy paste job during the already lazy pre-Andross maze, the Andross boss itself just being All The Worst Things In The Game At The Same Time)
And as a note to anyone who sees all these "Oh, it's actually really good!" opinions posted around the place, or even knows someone in person who says the same. Just in case that left you wondering: No. It isn't. It's very very bad, and the person who told you otherwise is an actual goddamn moron idiot.
>>340034652
my man, are you sure you're not having your judgement clouded by the cynism of 4chan? It's very important to take the things on here with a grain of salt, you know.
>>340034965
woah, calm down there, bud.
there will be a Digital Event sometime soon anyway. They do like 4 per year.
>>340034985
I think you are just sad because you are a big elite gamer and you weren't too good at Star Fox.
Did you know if you destroy Aqua Rosa before it reaches Gen. Pepper that you get to play Zoness in the Arwing?
There is so much to unlock on SFZ, and if you're telling me that something like a controller not being "good" enough for you is the reason you think it's shit, well that's just silly. Play more, get better, unlock secrets. Remember that? Like when games didn't just give you everything?
>>340034985
Nah, it's actually good. Better than Adventures and Command, that's for sure. Hopefully they will do a sequel to Zero that fixes its flaws. It is stilla good game, sorry.
>>340035184
I am actually hoping for some DLC. Seems logical, as every other major title released recently has had some. I'd really love to see an expert path which allows you to fight the real Andross rather than the replica, and some Roadmaster levels.
>>340035150
>Did you know if you destroy Aqua Rosa before it reaches Gen. Pepper that you get to play Zoness in the Arwing?
You need to push a button on the floor.
>>340034985
Good thing you only have to play Zoness once and then can either play it in the Arwing or skip it entirely.
Andross is fine, but I'm upset there's no "true" battle.
>And as a note to anyone who sees all these "Oh, it's actually really good!" opinions posted around the place, or even knows someone in person who says the same. Just in case that left you wondering: No. It isn't. It's very very bad, and the person who told you otherwise is an actual goddamn moron idiot.
Good to know an opinion is something that can be wrong.
>>340035069
Not him but I can agree that bitterness spreads outside of /v/ too. Facebook, Gamefaqs, Giant Bomb forums, Neogaf, Reddit, IGN and so on, you name it.
>>340035150
>Remember that? Like when games didn't just give you everything?
remember when nintendo made quality games without tacking gimmicks on them? it may have been before you were born, kid
>>340035307
How about you go back to one of those forums, bud?
>>340035184
>I liked it, that's why it's a good game
It was a mediocre game.
This kind of Nintendo fanboys are disgusting as fuck, you need to defend absolutely everything about this fucking company.
>>340035271
Same here. It would be cool if they also patched classic controls for the Pro controller, not because I want it but because a lot of people would at least stop complaining.
>>340035278
Indeed!
>>340035326
Don't think so, pal. But thanks for the enthusiasm.
>>340035357
Yes, because liking games is dumb.
Personally, I don't care if you like Nintendo. I do. That's why I'm on /v/ talking about it.
>>340035402
Yeah, I think they could do something like that pretty easily. You lose a degree of control when you use the classic method, but I don't think it's impossible to beat the game without the motion aiming.
Fox and Falco Amiibo offer 2 new Arwing styles. I have yet to play through the game with either one, though.
>>340034652
>I really feel like an outsider
You're not alone. You're just on 4chan.
>>340035357
Bro, mediocre is not bad. Bad is bad, mediocre is better than bad. And I also said the game is flawed, which is why I hope for a sequel that fixes its flaws.
>>340035307
People enjoy being dramatic for no reason. There's also the anti-Nintendo culture Youtubers are trying to push because they are very upset at their partner program. And kids love watching Youtubers, so they're having their brains washed real good.
I'm not convinced this is actually a significant issue. It's also really easy to trashtalk the Wii U as the apparent "loser" but who trashtalks the 3DS as the "winner"? That's a whole lot harder
Ex-staff here. There are currently no games in testing at NOA. Color Splash finished testing months ago, they're just sitting on it. We never saw anything to do with the NX. We figure they're dialing back on operations outside Japan and focusing on products that do well within their own country (see: Kirby, Splatoon merch, Maker Maker DLC characters) I could risk revealing Color Splash info to prove my legitimacy, but someone else would probably suffer for it so I won't. However I'll say any other leaks you've read about it ARE true.
>>340034924
Forbes also said nintendo wasn't going to be at e3 at all 2 years ago. What's your point?
>>340035326
No, because Nintendo has always been about gimmicks.
The NES was bundled with ROB, the Zapper, and the D-Pad was a gimmick that wasn't critically well received because it was different from all the other controllers.
>>340035330
Point is, bitterness is everywhere.
>>340034985
>The second last level is just corneria with a sunset filter
>Which is already in the game as the alt route
There's so much scenery they could have made you come in at a different angle but no
>>340035509
People have had a negative opinion for a long time with Nintendo, and it stems from the poor sale of the WiiU. People who didn't purchase the console or play the games have no idea what Nintendo is up to, because they don't play their games. Everything to them is another stupid gimmick.
>>340035551
Dad please come home. Mom spends all day with Tyrone and none of my friends believe me when I tell them about you.
>>340035551
>I COULD leak something, but I won't
You people are just pathetic.
>>340035551
Can you at least say if Color Splash is any good? Is there hope at all?
>>340035551
I'll bite. Is that Zelda NX being a water themed story real?
>>340035565
This. Their pre-NES videogames were also pretty gimmicky too.
Nintendo has always tried to work with gimmicks.
>>340034790
>>340033390
>>340033353
You're all wrong, but for a reason that was never relevant or positive in the first place. What open world games don't have instanced anything in the first place.
>>340035560
...my point is that it's all over the web. literally the only thing that we know at this point to continue conversation.
do you not know how to talk, or what?
>>340035565
The difference is that those where add-ons and not the main controller.
>>340035743
>the D-Pad
>not the main controller
You're not very bright are you?
>gimmicks
Please, someone define what this word means. If Nintendo uses gimmicks for all of their games, what are they? Do other games not use gimmicks?
It's stupid to call something a gimmick when it's part of the gameplay. WiiU doesn't even highlight the controller in most situations, and almost always allows you to use a different controller or switch the motion controls off.
What are you people even talking about?
>>340035743Both the N64 and GC controllers are gimmicks
>>340035830
Didn't see that, sorry.
But the point still stands.
>>340035738
You can literally play Ocarina of Time in any order you want if you're god-tier at the game.
>>340035656
Koopa Kids then.
>>340035659
Just as bad if not worse, sorry. I didn't play the original but I know the gripes.
>>340035672
Zelda was not in testing. If it was it was hidden like Smash Bros was (but we knew where that took place, so very unlikely Zelda was present)
Say what you want about the quality of the Direct last year, but Nintendo nailed the whole of the E3 aspect in 2015:
>Dat Nintendo World Championship
>Standard Direct
>Treehouse showed off a decent amount of shit over the whole 3 days
>>340035836
VR headsets are gimmicks for instance.
>>340035836
the Internet doesn't know what a gimmick is. Hasn't for a long time. I don't know whom to blame.
A gimmick is something just thrown in to attract sales but doesn't contribute to anything significant, right?
Sony controller isn't gimmicky because...
>motion controls
>touch pad
>joysticks
>d-pad
>buttons
>bumpers
holy shit...
>>340035836
At this point, "Gimmick" is just a buzzword, like "Meme game"
>>340035905
Yeah, the main event was shitty but the World championship and Treehouse were good. Of course people will remember only the worst part.
>>340035908
is it a gimmick? what makes it a gimmick? do you have to have it to play? and is it actually bad to have a gimmick? isn't the whole industry based on gimmicks?
Is MMO a gimmick? Is Tower Defense?
Shit doesn't make sense, and so it's irrelevant. And as long as you hold on to that idea you're never going to be able to run with the sunflowers in the wilderness.
>>340035897
>Koopa Kids
>Something pretty damn obvious was going to happen at this point
You're gonna have to give a little more than that.
That's pretty much saying the Wisps will be in the next Sonic game.
>>340036025
The Digital Event was really good, from what I remember. It was funny and had lots of great information for upcoming stuff.
I actually think they stole the show, myself.
>>340035836
A gimmick is literally anything quirky, different, or unique made to sell to something and/or make it more appealing.
The problem is the internet at large thinks gimmicks are inherently bad.
>>340034652
You DO realize that it is actually possible to enjoy some Nintendo IPs without caring about all of them, right? Just because I love the Metroid series doesn't make me a Nintendo fanboy willing to put up with shit like federation force and blindly accept every decision Nintendo make.
You console fanboys are the true cancer.
>>340036107
Eh, the announcements themselves were kinda mediocre, like the Skylanders Amiibo or the Mario Anniversary thing. The puppets were great though. Overall, people hyped it too much and everyone flipped their shit at the few announcements.
>>340035886
Which nobody is denying, least of all me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instance_dungeon
LoZ, AoL and SS, and the rest of the series to a lesser degree, all have 'instanced' dungeons that aren't part of the overworld and who's content (enemies etc) is reset on entering or leaving them.
That has nothing to do with non-linearity, but nor does it matter to being 'open-world'.
>>340036162
Then please, accept the fact Metroid is not important as you think and get over it. A company doesn't owe shit to you, especially to occasional fans like you.
>>340036112
I should suspect nothing less from the legions of angry preteens who are getting jazzed up for some CoD.
>>340036221
It was still fun. Because of Digital Events, Nintendo doesn't have to spend all their time and money on a sweet presentation, or even worry about announcements. They have multiple opportunities to communicate with their audience, and so if I get a good laugh at E3, that's enough for me. I'll wait for more info at the Digital Events or other events.
>>340032672
Reminder that people defend this, Mario Party 10 and Paper Mario Color Splash
>>340032025
NEW THREAD MOTHERFUCKERS. GIT IN HEYA.
>>340036162
as a Metroid fan, how did you react upon the release of Hunters?
why do you gotta go around and act like a nigger, for?
>>340036338
Hang yerself
>>340036112
>The problem is the internet at large thinks gimmicks are inherently bad.
Holy fuck this so much.
Almost every game in existence has a fucking gimmick depending on how you look at it, hell "gimmick" might as well be another for word "gameplay mechanic".
They're are plenty of games that use their "gimmicks" well.
Mega Man's gimmick was copying robot master powers, are those games bad because of those gimmicks? Fuck no.
When most people complain about the bad Mega Man the robot abilities are rarely ever the biggest gripe and it's more often than not about the padding or the terrible stage design.
A game isn't bad if it has a gimmick it's bad if the fucking game itself is bad.
>>340035551
Even if this is just someone looking for (you)s, the post made me think about something. Is it possible that Treehouse has gone on their censorship spree because Nintendo's been pumping out a lot less games, and especially major games, since last year? Supposedly the more changes they make, the more money they get, so are all the censors/changes being done just so they don't have to go broke during the mostly blank slate between now and the NX?
>>340036520
I don't understand how this can possibly be true. Anyone who intentionally takes longer to do a job for the higher wage gets fired and replaced by someone who's excited to work quickly and efficiently.
>>340036441
Well said, Anon.
>>340036520
I honestly think it's because Nintendo doesn't want a bunch of people getting Star Fox Zero and playing through it while talking shit. It's the digital age, and they want to be sure that their content is being showcased fairly and in a thoughtful light.
They are paying partners, and even though they're making a little cream off the top, I don't think that it's enough to hold them over for a dry spell.
I do think that an approaching NX pre-sale will boost their monies, though! Especially if they hype it just enough to get consumers begging for March 2017.
>>340036669
On what planet?
>>340036221
The problem is Amiibo Festival, Color Splash and Federation Force were so bad that people started to drag the rest of the show down with them, even if the rest was good. People started to lump the other games in with them and hate on them in principal and completely forget the World Championship.
I really just don't care anymore.
I'm absolutely baffled that a company who had such a good climb back to a degree of relevance in 2014 could just throw it all away the very next year and continue a downward spiral. How fucking un-self-aware to you need to be to keep releasing either games that are hogged down by gimmicks or safe gameplay, or total dogshit nobody wants to play? Are you that out of touch?
I'm not even excited for NX anymore. It's gonna take a real system-seller for me to get one, and I don't mean the Zelda port or another Super Mario 3D Blunder.
>>340036749
Have you ever had a job?
>>340030491
I should care. I'm 31 and have had been playing Nintendo since I was 4. I've owned every console that they have released except virtual boy. Bought hundreds of games. And I don't give a flying fuck about the NX. They've kinda burned their bridge with me. Too many "fuck you"s over the years. It would take an enormous amount to bring me back. With that said, I intend on buying Zelda for the wii U only because I have it already and dont intend on buying a fucking NX and YES i think its retarded as fuck that E3 is just going to be a 3 day nintendo direct. They need to let people know that they are working on other projects to in them back instead of finding some new retarded gimmick to pump to kids and morons like me who keep giving them a chance.
>>340036872
Color Splash wasn't announced at the Digital Event.
>>340036749
Earth, mostly.
It's a rising practice on Quizon-3 though.
>>340037070
Right, I forgot
>>340036872
In their defense, the World Championship was pretty lame aside from the Mario Maker thing at the end with JOHN FUCKING NUMBERS. Either way, it turns out Ultra Smash was garbage, Paper Jam was mediocre, Star Fox was eh, and Hashtag FE was just torn so much apart from its initial April Direct reveal in both Japan and further in the US that nobody wants to play it anymore.
>The NX will fail and Nintendo will go third party
I can't believe it's almost over.
>>340037257
Its pretty much in their best interest at this point. They are so fucking incapable of doing anything right lately and they don't care. They just keep trying to stay afloat by fucking their diehard fans in the ass and pandering to kiddies thinking they are installing a new customer base but those kids wont give a fuck as soon as they get a cell phone.
>>340037257
>Le Nintendo will go 3rd-party meme
GF and HAL will, but every else will be lost in time.
>>340037257
>Nintendo
>going third party
Don't be silly Anon.They're just going to die and take every single IP with them in a pig-headed temper tantrum when everyone's sick of their bullshit.
>>340036895
EXACTLY THIS.
>>340036872
Why do people think color splash is so bad? I think it looks cool. Just curious.
>>340037534
Hopefully.
>>340037607
They think it will be a Sticker Star copypaste in HD.
>>340036895
>3D World was bad because it wasn't Galaxy
>>340037257
>Nintendo dies
>then Microsoft dies
>Sony finally wins>then Sony dies when people finally realize they're a garbage Jew company too
>video games finally die
>mass indie hipster suicide
Best ending desu.
>>340037781
>Everyone dies
Man, don't you ever write the plot of a movie.
>>340037607
Right now it looks exactly the same as Sticker Star. The only NPCs are Toads, you battle using cards like stickers, and there doesn't seem to be a story. They even called it an "Action Adventure series" instead of an RPG.
I hope they turn it around but it doesn't look good for it.
>>340037731
3D World was bad because it was safe bullshit that was too easy, had garbage level design, and frankly had so little to do that it wasn't worth the time or money it asked for.Galaxy was also garbage.
>>340037126
>Either way, it turns out Ultra Smash was garbage, Paper Jam was mediocre, Star Fox was eh
Regardless of how any of those games turned out, the point is they were good announcements. You couldn't have known how they would end up at that time.
You also forgot that that they opened with a new Smash direct (disregarding that Roy and Ryu were leaked, it was hype), announced Earthbound Beginnings during the Championship, and also announced Tri Force Heroes, Hyrule Warriors Legends, and showed more of Yoshi, Xenoblade X, Yokai Watch, Mario Maker, and Fire Emblem Fates.
Then they played more games they didn't show like Fast Racing NEO, Fatal Frame, and Steamworld Heist on Treehouse Live.
>>340037731
3d world was bad because it just is. It looks kinda cool but the level design and control is shit. Too much emphasis on trying to make it fucking multiplayer. It did nothing new. It was boring. It just isnt good. Sorry. I bought it day one. Captain Toad was more enjoyable.
>>340037781
Consoles die you mean.
Maybe when the dust settles Sega comes back and reclaims the crown.
>>340037851
Tell that to shakespeare.
>>340037863
Fuck. Sticker star was't the worst game I ever played but I picked it up for 4$ at a yard sale so thats why i wasn't salty but its a chore I care not to repeat. Especially after how fun TTYD was.
>>340030491
>Am I the only one
I'm sure neogaf and rebbit is full of special snowflakes like you
>>340037870
>safe bullshit that was too easy
Almost every Mario game is easy, what's your point?
>had garbage level design
It was fine, I can't think of a level that I generally hated.
>and frankly had so little to do that it wasn't worth the time or money it asked for.
Nigger that shit was a pain in the ass to complete because of all the shit you had to do.
Granted a lot of it was just playing a level multiple times but still.
>>340037932
>the level design and control is shit.
Again, never had a problem with this.
>Too much emphasis on trying to make it fucking multiplayer.
Almost every fucking Mario game has multiplayer.
>It did nothing new.
New Content =/= Good Content
Sunshine was different but it ultimately failed because the FLUUD mechanic was terrible.
>>340035357
chill out. just cos you didn't like the game, doesn't mean we have to have the same opinion
and no, this isn't singing the praises of zero as goty either
i thought the game was mediocre (reminder: not bad), and i didn't like the control scheme at all, but not every game has to be perfection to be somewhat enjoyable
>>340037926
The thing about the Digital Event is that the pacing was so off that it didn't even matter. Games that were world announcements had so little shown of them, while something like Yoshi's Wooly World and Mario Maker had so much time dedicated to it so close to its release, Yoshi I'm pretty sure was actually released in everywhere but America then, that it just halted the momentum of what was announced that was exciting.
And even then, the argument that they went for hype trailers over actual quality product just makes them look even more scummy in comparison. Almost everything from 2014 were hype trailers with actual quality in the gameplay that backed them, but for 2015's Star Fox reveal to turn out to have really hit-or-miss controls and gameplay length, it must've been heartbreaking for Star Fox fans, I can see where they'd be pissed off.
>>340038178
Like whatever you like man but 3d world was a disappointing/subpar game.
>>340038228
>And even then, the argument that they went for hype trailers over actual quality product just makes them look even more scummy in comparison.
Why not? Every other company does that.
People said Sony "won" E3 for doing exactly that, for games that don't even exist, like Shenmue 3 and The Last Guardian.
>>340038306
>implying Sony isn't a scumbag company already
>>340038280
Not saying it's amazing either, but it's nowhere near what I would qualify as a bag game.
But for a 3D 2D-Styled Mario game it gave pretty much exactly what it was saying it was.
I wasn't expecting a Galaxy-tier game, I was expecting a "traditional" Mario game, and that's exactly what I got.
>>340036323
>Paper Mario Color Splash
Why not just wait until the reviews come out? Yeah, the signs don't look too good, but getting all butthurt over one reveal is a bit much.
>>340038348
It is, but people seem to like it so much that they shouldn't complain about Nintendo doing the same thing.
>>340038519
People need to realize though that saying "every other company does it" doesn't magically give Nintendo a pass, but hating just Nintendo for it isn't right.
When companies do some shitty shit, they should all be blamed for it no matter what.
>>340038687
The thing is, when you point that out, a horde of fags will come and scream 'PHYSICAL DLC!!!' or 'NINTENDRONE!'
Bump for ackwardly interesting thread
>>340038687
between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, it's simply pick your poison. Not exactly a situation you want to be in
>>340039639
But here comes the question: who is the worst?
>>340038437
Meh. To be honest i like New Super Mario Bros U better. I thought 3d land was better. I thought 3d world was cool looking, just boring and bland and not fun at all. I never said it was bad i guess, just sub par but I guess i'm not judging anyone for liking it. I just know they can do much better.
>>340039639
But Nintendo claims not to be in competition with Somy or MS
>>340040391
Microsoft by far, I still can't believe people forgave them and bought an Xbone anyway after they were so ready to fuck them up the ass
>>340040718
The thing is, when people refer to AAA publisher, they often leave out Nintendo out
>>340031741
Most of the shit people expect isn't even common sense
>>340040808
If E3 2013 and Microsoft's draconian policies don't prove gaming customers will eat anything up, then I don't know what does. Hot damn
>>340036895
>such a good climb back to a degree of relevance in 2014
but they didnt. wii u isnt doing well at all thats why theyre trashing it in favor of a better business model
>>340040808
but it didnt fuck them up the ass and it ended up being the same as the ps4
>>340041216
The point is they were READY to, which says a lot of Microsoft and what they think of their customers
>>340040887
Exactly
That's the thing with all conferences
Unrealistic expectations that will inevitably lead to disappointment
As a side note,
If Nintendo introduces paid online I'm out of consoles forever
>>340035551
Staff here, reggie says you're a faggot
>>340035738
Xenoblade X
>>340030491
>followed by Treehouse antics.
>more Treehouse antics.
>>340041771
They are okay when playing games though
>>340040391
I want to say Sony with them ditching backwards compatibility and adopting paid online atop of having loads of moviegames, but they're getting weebshit I want to play too, so it's a tough call.
There's no right answer either way since every company is guilty of buttfucking their consumers recently.
>>340041081
You say that, but NX is going to be the exact same mistakes with the exact same garbage software and exact same garbage online policies.
Just look at the My Nintendo program they launched: digital-game-favored with a bias toward Miitomo and other mobile apps. That doesn't speak "good vidya" to me.
>>340030491
>Day 3: Presentation of DragonQuest VII
its scary how one of their main games to show is one japan got in 2013.
they're betting everyone on pokemon, and using a wiiu zelda to try to sell the NX.
its twilight princess all over again.
>>340041949
there's really nothing you can do as a consumer except support good practises and condemn bad ones.
If you look at the track-record of everyone, you'll quickly find yourself unable to buy any console games anymore.
>>340042341
I hope it's TP all over again. The gamecube version didn't take a backseat to the wii version.
>everyone spells doom for nintendo
>meanwhile I'm playing the only next gen console, the 3DS
>>340042124
I don't think the compatibility is a bad thing. And I don't really believe in the slippery slope fallency
You sound very bitter anon. Lighten up man. Play games like Yoshi's Wolly world to cheer yourself up
>>340034652
This.
However, the day nintendo goes premium online is the day I drop them forever.
>>340030491
Nintendo is in the process of self destruction
They have been urged to enter the mobile(phone) market however their philosophy is to keep everything internal and do not do wide spread market research or even consider the competition
this is why Nintendo's online service it terrible, due to them entering the field with 0 understanding of what they were actually up against and this is why I predict failure the same as the Wii U for the NX
>>340041949
But is Sony making the weebshit?
Also, the worst one is Microsoft. Not because of the Xbone but because they introduced all of the cancer such as multiplayer behind a subscription, DLC, and the rise of Western games on consoles has done more bad than good.
Sony could actually beat them though. They invented the online pass, and even their PSP games had that shit. Remember Socom FTB3 on the PSP? That game required an online pass, but its servers were shutdown after a year or two. They also ended up fully embracing the worst of Microsoft's policies. Come to think of it, Sony could be the worse if the PS4 Neo turns out to be real, and it probably will because of VR. VR is also fucking stupid.
Nintendo is super shit too, but they haven't fully inherited all of Microsoft's policies. Amiibos would have been fine as just a Smash accessory, but putting that shit in other games only serves to piss people off. A huge portion of Nintendo's problems can be pinned on NOA and Miyamoto. Miyamoto said that StarFox failed because nobody likes SF, but the truth it it looked like shit since Day 1. Not to mention that impressions of those who played it when it was first unveiled weren't that good. NOA needs to stop being like 4Kids. Their job is simple promote Nintendo's games, translate them, and maintain NA servers. They don't need to do anything else. I feel as if they aren't too far into the rabbit hole as Sony is, but it all depends on the NX reveal. That's what will truly determine whether or not Nintendo will be shit in the long run.
At least the 3DS turned out decent, and it's nice to see that Nintendo will promote DQVII. They treat it as if it were their own IP, so I hope the DQXI on NX rumors are real just because Nintendo will make sure it does well in the West. But fuck all of those 3DS rereleases. Easily the biggest weakness of the system next to the inability to download games on to other 3DSs, and the inability to use your NNID on another 3DS.
>>340032793
We won't see the NX, and it's a good thing. Sony or maybe Microsoft, if not both, will probably revive old IPs that "game journalists" never played ( again ) and people will only talk about that.
Just wait it out.
I dont expect anything and I'll let them surprise me.
All other conferences except for Square Enix will definitely be shit this year though. Its gonna be all VR garbage.
>>340043121
Yoshi's Wooly World made me bitter.
Not the game, but just knowing the marketing was so fucked on something so good that we'll never see something so happy and actually fun again. NoA is the root of all evil.
>>340045531
1.37 million copies worldwide. That's not bad.
>>340045531
Not trying to justify NoA here but unfortunately Marketing is very expensive. Each company makes a lot of research prior to the release of a game. They try to understand if a game is worth being marketed or if it will "market itself" thanks to brand recognition and so on.
Not all companies can easily waste millions of dollars in marketing like Sony, even though Sony usually forgets to maket its own games too, see Tearaway or the Vita in general. Nintendo tries to keep a balance between profits and losses.
>>340030491
>They straight up said only the Wii u version will be showcased and playable at E3/Nintendo Store
>Guys i know they are going to show the NX and the NX
What is this with /v/ not being able to read? Do video games really make people so stupid that they cant even read and comprehend a simple sentence?
>>340030491
>Am I the only one who thinks that Nintendo has been behaving strangely
they've been acting weird ever since Iwata died. It's not just E3.
>>340047448
Iwata's death really shake them up in the wrong way. Which is pretty ironic considering how much some people (Neogaf) wanted him to step down as CEO or being fired altogether. His death basically proved how wrong they were.
>>340047724
I feel like there was a lot resting on Iwata's shoulders that no one really wanted to step up and take his place.
>>340047448
>>340047724
Even though it has been some time now, I also think this is still playing a role. It probably won't stop being a concern until the NX launches.
Just a really unfortunate position to be in as a company.
>>340047965
I wonder if Kishima will step down after one year like someone used to say. The company really needs a friendly CEO that can announce things in a friendly way.
I don't have anything against him but he doesn't really look like a worthy president for the company. He doesn't have the same charm of Yamauchi or Iwata. I can't really see him going on stage and presenting the NX to the masses.
>>340048192
>Yamauchi
He's about on the same level as Yamauchi. A bitter old yakuza hardass.
>>340047965
I have no idea, but he definitely doesn't have a friendly image, and having the first year of your presidency be the worst year in your company's history to be a fan of, its not really a good position to be in.
If they can really knock it out of the park with the NX and the 3DS successor I think his faith will be restored.
>>340032434
True, just look at PS4. It got one game and people bought it.
>>340048387
I think Yamauchi was ruder. Like, he wasn't afraid to tell third party to work their asses on games (enough to scare them from the N64) and he was kind of a dictator for the whole company. While I prefer Iwata, he definitely had a strong personality. I can't really say the same about Kishima.
He probably didn't have the chance to show his true nature yet but still... he doesn't seem strong willed like the old presidents.
>>340048458
>and having the first year of your presidency be the worst year in your company's history to be a fan of, its not really a good position to be in.
Iwata was saddled with a similar situation. Yamauchi gave him the Gamecube after it was already failing. There's nothing saying Kishima won't make it get better like Iwata did.
>>340048639
Even when it had no games people bought it.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/sony-doesnt-understand-why-so-many-people-are-buying-ps4/
>>340048649
Surpassing Iwata will be difficult. I mean, the Wii was a smashing success; the DS was a success as well, enough to top PS2's sale numbers; the 3DS, while being the lowest selling Nintendo handheld so far (I think, maybe excluding the Virtual boy and the Game Boy color), Iwata managed to fix its terrible launch by turning up the tables and the 3DS is, so far, the best selling console hardware of this generation (although it might be topped by the PS4 by the end of the gen).
The only legit fuck up Iwata did was the Wii U, at least when it boils down to units sold.
But the point is, it will be very hard to top the success of Iwata's Wii and DS, not only for Nintendo but for all companies in the world.
Let's not forget Iwata also worked his ass during the GC days behind the curtains so the console would at least survive.
>>340049186
I didn't mean that Kishima would reach Iwata's level, I meant there's still a chance things will get better for him, too.
>>340032227
that's the exact opposite of what he said
>>340049186
Do you think if the Wii U had better marketing it would've sold better? There's no doubt the Wii U had absolutely shit marketing and the name hurt it in the long run.
>>340049330
No it's not
>>340032227
> if Steam goes they'll release all their products for free :^)
actually I'm p sure they said they'll just send out code that will un-DRM all your library or make it so you don't have to authenticate with the steam servers.
Why did the Wii U fail? I'd say it has more games worth playing than the Wii ever did. Not even memeing here, I enjoy my Wii U. Was it a case of death by word of mouth?
>>340049429
Arguing semantics now are we
>not even a digital event this year
What the fuck, Nintendo?
>>340049336
the Wii U had problems on top of that, such as not enough games making good use of the gamepad, Nintendo being unfamiliar with HD gaming and getting backstabbed by 3rd parties when they had the spotlight (Rayman Legends man, literally can't make up what happened here).
All 3 of those things won't be the case with the NX and it also won't have "Wii" in its name, so it's already looking mighty bright in comparison.
>>340036913
Anon, it's the use it or lose it principle. It looks like honest work but their bullshitting around. Have you ever seen road/building construction. That shit is intentionally slow because it's commissioned.
>>340049514
>arguing
why do you niggers try to drag an argument out of everything? I'm just pretty sure they said that somewhere. It might have changed.
>>340049772
I'm simply stating as I see it.
You're arguing semantics.
>>340049705
>people still wanted Rayman in smash after the horsefuckery that was legends happened.
They didn't even tell the fucking team they were delaying it until the day of.
Can you imagine? Coming into work with only 2 weeks until your game was set to launch and being told "HAHA NOW PORT IT TO 4 MORE SYSTEMS YOU'VE GOT 5 MONTHS"
fuck ubisoft.
>>340043121
Nintendo has been one big slipper slope ever since the end of Wii's life cycle, anon. Believe what you want but people aren't pulling this out of their ass. There's plenty of evidence to logically imply they'll fuck this up.
>>340049336
Yeah, I think it should have been marketed better. Remember the "Wii would like to play" commercials for the Wii? All those celebrities doing commercials for the Wii and DS? They missed the mark with the Wii U. Marketing is important.
But the main reason for Wii U's failure, in my opinion, is the lack of a main identity.
The Wii U wanted to appeal to both the casuals that loved the Wii but at the same time try to be a more "hardcore" console, gaining back the actual videogame fans. Unfortunately, I think Nintendo wasn't too sure about this idea either so they ended not to appeal to either sides. Yeah, I think Nintendo itself had no idea what the Wii U was going to be. The fact it uses gen 7 tech is a glaring evidence too.
And I say all of this as someone that loves his Wii U.
For the NX, Nintendo needs to: find a unique and stable identity; marketing, lots of marketing.
>>340038013
PC would be way too ingrained by that point. And they would have a lot of goodwill to build up because they haven't been getting it even after they left the console market. Sonic games have been ass for the most par and that's all most people even know them for.
>>340049186
3ds is the second highest selling handheld actually.
>>340049705
>>340049919
Yeah, third parties have been cunts with Nintendo. As soon as they noticed the Wii U wasn't selling like the Wii at launch, they ran away. Ubisoft at least dropped the support after Watch Dogs, not like EA that dropped it after 6 months.
I wanted Rayman in smash. But I was very mad at Ubisoft as well.I don't think the character itself is to blame for the company behind it. I mean, what did SquareEnix do for the Wii U? Jack shit, here's what. Still, clound is in Smash.
>>340040391
It doesn't matter. Their all bad and trying to debate on who's worse or better at being terrible is all semantics and is what got the whole console war thing started in the first place. Everyone in every console space is butthurt about something they don't like in their console but instead of demanding better they shitthrow at some other console they don't like.
>>340050338
Third party titles sold abysmally low on the Wii U.
The sales were bad enough for publishers to send out a "stop all development right now" order for their Wii U projects. Can't remember the exact figures but games were selling in low thousands.
The only third party games of significance after the 1st gen were ones pledged publically or ones made under contract from Nintendo.
>>340049919
http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/10/ubisoft-e3-2014-wii-u-holing-back-finished-game-until-console-sales-improve/
I was so glad that Rayman "leak" was fake.
Fuck Ubisoft, they deserve nothing.
>Hurr, we'll release games when the console gets more sales, nevermind that people buy consoles TO PLAY GAMES
>>340050684
Well, it's usurprising third party titles were selling badly. Do I have to remember you how shitty were the EA and Ubisoft ports at Launch? Remember when EA released Mass Effect 3 at full price on Wii U and launched the whole trilogy for cheaper on all other platforms at the same time? Remember how shitty Assasins Creed run on Wii U, despite the specs being on par with the 360? Remember how EA used not the 360/ps3 but the Wii version of Fifa and ported it on Wii U?
Honestly, nobody with a brain would have bought that crap.
Again, sure, Nintendo failed many thing as I said in another post. But let's not pretend third parties have been dicks all around. Only Warner Bros tried to put some effort in the support but even they had to surrender after companies like EA and Ubisoft fucked off.
>>340048847
Haha. It was literally only that PS4 didn't change and the polar opposite, XboxOne, was going to be draconian anti-customer, DRM tier shit. That's the literal only reason.
They know they did nothing and actually got worse just like Xbox did. They added unnecessary charges that didn't exist before, and took away features like not being able to download music onto the PS4 when you can on PS3, for instance.
But people were so desperate for something that wasn't xbox one and were scared to not get the next new thing that they went with PS4.
I'm no Nintendo fan boy but honestly way back when all the systems first came out, Nintendo was the better proposition. Even if you didn't prefer the controller, you could just buy a regular one and still pay less than PS4 and Xbone. And it had all the free online and other features as well as full backwards compatibility. I mean seriously? I'm also perplexed and I'm a PC gamer predominately.
>>340030491
>Day 3: Presentation of DragonQuest VII
A 16 year old game is one of Nintendo's highlights at E3 this year.
It's gonna be embarrassingly bad for them. Worst than last year. Watch Zelda be underwhelming as well.
>>340050684
That's probably due to not actually making quality games on Wii U. All of their games were last gen ports and and current gen ports were heavily marketed for Playstation. It's no surprise that their Wii U sales were ass. It's like publishers wanted their games to fail on Wii U.
>>340049480
>Why did the Wii U fail? I'd say it has more games worth playing than the Wii ever did.
Because your preferences have nothing to do with how well a console sells.
The Wii:
>had 2 all-new 3D Mario games
>had 2 all-new Zelda games
>had 2 all-new Metroid games
>had Wii Sports & Wii Fit
>had just as many niche titles as the Wii U, if not more
>invented Virtual Console
>was the only platform you could play the current Smash game on (SSB4 3DS sold more than the Wii U version)
>was the console you could talk your parents into buying
>>340051308
Yeah but all HAIL SONY and their remake of a 20 yo game (FFVII) and release of a game in development for more than a decade (FF XV)
Oh look, both games are rehashes.
My problem is they're not a saying a single fucking thing about the NX.
Just fucking tell us when you are revealing it. No more goddamn vague dates.
Just fucking tell us.
>no animal crossing wiiu despite them having modelled nearly all characters for that amiboo chash in bullshit mini game
>>340051901
They can't.
As always, Sony and Microsoft would still the idea.
>>340050684
Third party titles were very very low on Wii U, no doubt. That said, the offerings were bad to say the least.
>Assassin's Creed III
Port of a game that had launched already on other systems.
>Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
The game was already a year old by the time this came out. The port was also shit which didn't help.
>Call of Duty: Black Ops II
One of the few actually new games on the Wii U launch
>Darksiders II
Game was already 3 months old by the time Wii U launched. Not exactly a blockbuster either, fans who wanted to play it already had.
Shovelware
>FIFA Soccer 13
Scamware
>Little Inferno
indieshit
>Madden NFL 13
do i even have to say it
>Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
Game was regarded as a massive disappointment and already 8 months old.
>Mighty Switch Force! Hyper Drive Edition
Actual quality title, but a port from the 3DS with no new features aside from HD sprites.
>Nano Assault Neo
indieshit
>NBA 2K13
sportshit
>Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
Port of a game that was already out for 5 months and no one liked it on Xbox or Playstation either
Super Shovelware
>Scribblenauts Unlimited
another one
>Skylanders: Giants
to my knowledge sold well but its skylanders
>Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Decent title, one of the few that took advantage of the gamepad
>Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
Nice but kinda niche game
>Trine 2: Director's Cut
Literally over a year old by its release
>Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
Port of a game already out for 7 months in NA
>ZombiU
Probably the only 3rd-party title that tried, even if it failed.
>Ben 10: Omniverse
>Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
>ESPN Sports Connection
>Game Party Champions
>Funky Barn
>Rabbids Land
>Sing Party
>Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
>Just Dance 4
>Tank! Tank! Tank!
>Transformers: Prime – The Game
>Wipeout 3
all shovelware
>>340050716
>tfw Legends sold the most on the Wii U anyway
FUCK YOU UBISOFT YOU KIKE CUNTS
THE FUCK GUYS
>>340051963
>steal the idea
NINTENDO were the ones trying to catch up to the trend with Wii U.
No one wants to copy Nintendo anymore. not after Wii. They learned their lessons.
>>340051901
The truth people can't accept is that the NX is still not ready to be shown. They just named it last year and people expected it to be already ready and done. That's not how console development works.
theyre not behaving strangely. they are behaving the same as theyve done for the past 5 years: like people who have no idea what the fuck theyre doing, are mismanaged and out of touch.
dont even think for a moment that nintendo has any big surprises. they are not intelligent and they no longer have a fighting spirit. they are broken and defeated and all they want is money from gimmicks and marketing deals and other nonsense to try and keep their corporation looking active. they do not know what to do with themselves right now.
>>340052097
the truth is that nintendo is not delivering anything worthwhile on the 3ds or wiiu and hasnt for the last few years while the new console is another year away
it also doesnt help that they have next to none second or third party devs anymore
>>340051974
>Probably the only 3rd-party title that tried, even if it failed.
Actually, Zombi U sold well compared to many other launch titles. Problem is, Ubisoft wanted it to sell MORE. Which was a crazy expectation for a game like that.
>>340052301
That doesn't exclude the fact the NX is not ready to be shown. And that people better deal with it.
>>340052310
I was referring more to its quality, but yeah, you're right.
>>340034173
>But that's going to change with Smash 3DS, now I can play it on the go, I'll have more time to practice, so I can come back next year, and kick your ass!
The man can market fucking lentils if he knew what audience he was going for.
>>340052375
It's less than a year until launch. Design HAS to be close-to-finalized by now. Not to mention, PS4 showed off its specs and controller a full 8 months before the console released and 4 months before the console was even shown.
There's no way there's less than 9 months to launch and its not finalized in some way, shape, or form.
>>340052625
Not to mention pizza. Pizza hut's quality has gone to shit ever since he jumped ship.
>Nintendo got pissed that most of their shit got leaked last year, specially Roy and Ryu
>This year they decide to announce nothing so people don't start digging.
At least that's what I hope because otherwise this whole event seems incredibly disappointing.
>>340052997
This is speculation at best but I don't think the NX will lanch at March next year. No way in hell.
I am really sure Nintendo isn't ready at all. The only reason they mentioned the NX lanch date is because people can't stop asking them about it. So they gave a random as fuck date to make people quiet. But it only made things worse.
If the console was really ready to be launched at March, they would show it at E3. But since they won't show it, it's not hard to believe they actually have zero material to show about the NX.
They killed off the Wii U snd 3DS too soon by porting all projects to NX and they don't have anything to cover up these months of nothing.
E3 is fucking dead this year for Nintendo. A shame, but we will have to get through this together, Nintenbros.At least we won E3 2014......
Never trust Emily Rogers' lies.
>>340030491
>Am I the only one who thinks that Nintendo has been behaving strangely
Hurr fucking durr
>>340032308
They're not showing the NX you mongoloid
>>340049480
>I'd say it has more games worth playing than the Wii ever did.
And your opinion is in the vast minority. It's pointless trying to explain to you why it failed as you'll never get it.
>>340032793
>just that people will be playing Zelda on NX
They already said they're only showing off the Wii U Zelda
>>340030491
Nah. Nintendo lost a lot of Japan this last gen to Sony (console) and mobile (handheld). The reason they're not showing NX at E3 is because Japs don't give a fuck about it, and they need to recapture Japan.
Whatever NX is, you can be sure of a few things.
>It will be a wild attempt at recapturing the Japanese market
>It will be revealed in a Japan centric event
>>340049480
I love my Wii U but the Wii had way more game worth playing that the Wii U. Whcih is great, because the Wii U has full BC, so they can share one of the biggest libraries in history.
>>340053805
Your reasoning makes absolute-zero sense.
Let's assume the NX isn't ready to be shown yet, like you said. Not ready in a way that will delay them to next November at the earliest. It begs the question, what to do right now?
Right now the Wii U is deader than ever. The next 9 months has only 3 games in-store. That's not something to tide people over for a year. That's not even something to tide people over for 5 months. On top of that, one of those games has been confirmed by Nintendo to have been delayed a second time and will launch on NX and Wii U simultaneously.
So the obvious thing to do is to announce some new Wii U games at E3, right? But they're not gonna do that. As a matter of fact, Nintendo said they aren't going to have any playable games besides Zelda on the E3 floor. No conference, no trailer streams, no announcements besides Zelda.
We have a gap in Nintendo's logic. Either you delay everything to NX, or you keep it on Wii U so there isn't a massive gap of releases. Neither makes sense if you don't launch in March.
On top of all this, it's not wise to lie to investors. Financial reports are to be taken seriously, lest your financiers pull out.
>>340031124
We suffer every e3
>>340033252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ew97jJgAnw
>>340053997
E3 2014 was so great. We got so many good game announcements.
>>340049919
Legends was good. The smartphone games couldn't have been profitable though
>>340030491
Wasn't there some Pokemon E3 special on the 16th? Even though I love me some Pokemon, they seem really desperate.
>>340054401
>Right now the Wii U is deader than ever. The next 9 months has only 3 games in-store
Well just exclusives, but I get where you're coming from. Its actually getting a few more retail releases, just not from Nintendo who are seemingly focusing on NX and 3DS
>>340034652
How can you expect people not to be bitter when Nintendo has basically admitted to not having anything to show at E3, moving their one system seller to the next console, barely throwing a bone for one of their most critically acclaimed franchises and delivering an all-around AWFUL E3 last year?
>>340054594
>Its actually getting a few more retail releases
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/coming-soon/wii-u/date
Oh look, it's fucking nothing.
>>340054565
I don't get it.
Last week, we thought they were going to show only Zelda and nothing else. And people said Nintendo were desperate/dead.
Now, we know they will show more stuff besides Zelda, but they are still desperate/dead.
What if they really eventually show something new, even just one single game for 3DS? They will still be inevitably still desperate?
>>340054728
I'd vouch for Nintendo saying they at-least tried last year, even though it was a horrific failure. I was one of the few a bit excited by their smaller announcements like paper jam.
>>340054728
>moving their one system seller to the next console
The right word is "porting" because Zelda will still be released on Wii U.
>>340054974
Now the question remains: Will it be better on NX or Wii U?
>>340054335
>It will be revealed in a Japan centric eventNintendo Spaceworld 2016
>>340054834
That's an incomplete list.
>>340054856
Well it feels kinda telling when the two highlights are both already announced games. It feels like their whole plan for E3 fell apart when they decided the NX was going to be for 2017
>>340031910
>"open world meme" Zelda
No memes in site.
>Sticker star 2
Wait and see.
>Tokyo censored sessions
censorship is being lowered down.
>delayung the NX to add VR to what is probably already an underpowered system
The Cortex A72 & Power VR GTX8900 are not underpowered
>because we're all dying to play Mario VR
Next gen.
>>340055072
That's my theory as well. Panders to the GC kids who now make up the majority of their fanbase, as well.
>>340054919
>they at-least tried last year
Yeah I was really feeling them trying when they had Miyamoto talking about gates, Reggie talking about fucking Skylanders and a talk about how someone made a Yoshi amiibo.
>>340055094
What miraculous titles, that all Wii U owners will surely want, are missing?
>>340055201
Shantae for one.
>>340054401
Well, you have a point. I might be wrong. I still find VERY strange they won't show the NX at E3. Because if it really was ready, they have really no reason to delay the reveal to a future event.
>>340054974
Point is it was originally slated for 2015. Now it's been delayed two years and the definitive version is going to be on another console.
Wii U never got its own Zelda, think about that.
>>340054335
>And mobile
>>340055259
>indieshit
OH BOY HERE WE GO
that's not even a physical release.
>>340055063
What if it will be the same game on both platforms?
>>340055072
No, Direct on 12/29/2016
>nobody liked last E3 presentation of Nintendo
>Nintendo says they'll keep that in mind and do it better
>all everyone really wants is Zelda
>get Zelda
I don't see the problem.
>>340055290
The 3DS sales were absolutely wrecked by mobile gaming. Sony lost a foothold completely, granted, but Nintendo lost 2/3s of their handheld fanbase
>>340055348
Yes, it is a physical release.
>>340055282
>Wii U never got its own Zelda, think about that.
That's kinda of a crappy argument. Following that reasoning, No Nintendo console ever had its own Zelda, considering they have all been ported in a way or another to newer consoles.
All home consoles Zelda games have been timed exclusives.
>>340055274
The argument (or reasoning, if you will) that Nintendo won't show it at E3 is that they're trying to cut E3 out of their business ventures altogether. EA has already jumped ship and if I'm not mistaken SONY doesn't do their E3 presentation at the E3 business center, though they have a huge booth there.
Apparently they charge a shitload for what could be done at any point of the year. On top of this it's press-only now so you don't even get public fan hype from anything but trailers.
Besides those factors, it's no question that E3 conferences are fucking expensive. Iwata noticed this when they started to tank financially and decided "let's do directs" which remained one of his best buisiness decisions to date.
My guess it there will be an NX conference before the end of the summer that is hosted online in some form.
>>340055423
Sorry I read your statement wrong. i though you said Sony beat nintendo in handheld. Like the Vita took most of the 3DS's sales.
>>340055535
Oh come on, a delay to make way for a port is not the same thing as a remake.
>>340055495
Is it going to be released in stores or are they just shipping physical copies?
>>340055676
I dunno man what are you basing all that on and do you have sources? Sounds like conjecture.
>>340055414
I don't doubt they'll contain the same content, but I'd be a liar if I didn't say TP had the better release on Wii with the pointer controls for the bow and arrow and such.
>>340030491
>It is my suspicion that Nintendo will showcase The Legend of Zelda on the completed NX console this year at E3. And I have some ideas to back me up.
Idea to back him up:
>Day 2 we are focusing on Zelda, which means we will be focussing as Zelda being played on NX.
Are you fucking stupid? All you have said is "Zelda will be on NX", there is not a single shred of evidence that can be used as an excuse to support this idea. In fact Nintendo has directly said NX will not be present this year, and if you think its an elaborate ruse then look at the last like 7 years of nintendos presence at e3.
1/10 made me reply.
>>340055767
Its available for pre-order in Game stop USA already, presumably it's a full retail release.
>>340055535
There's an obvious difference between a game getting a port to another console years later and a game being delayed to release on the replacement platform. This kind of move makes the Wii U feel worthless.
>>340055962
>This kind of move makes the Wii U feel worthless.
Not if the NX has no backwards compatibility. In that case, all the Wii U library would be forever tied to the Wii U. And games like W101 or Bayo 2 won't get ports to newr consoles, because they didn't sell enough copies.
>Nintendo still has a surprise this E3
>one last update for Splatoon>it adds Legend of Zelda maps, skins and weapons
This saves the Wii U.
>>340055786
> dunno man what are you basing all that on and do you have sources?
>t they're trying to cut E3 out of their business ventures altogether.
Sources: Nintendo hasn't rented a conference hall at E3 in 4 years. They've been doing directs for the last 4 years and clearly lower-budget since they can be performed on Nintendo's dime.
This is also based off of the fact that other companies don't rent E3 showfloor out now. It's ludicrously expensive to rent the space there, even for LA.
>My guess it there will be an NX conference before the end of the summer that is hosted online in some form.
Sources: none. I'm just guessing. It'd make sense to have something before the summer ends to give us something to hype about. Plus, setting a 6-month window to launch without game announcements or hardware info is really really dumb.
>>340056228
Rumor says they will show new Mario Kart 8 DLCs. so, who knows. DLCs aren't exactly new game announcements but they are still kind of cool.
>>340032308
>Star Fox is hard
>You arent supposed to beat it in a night, even if its only three hours long
>It being the shortest game in the last 2 years, only beaten out by gone home, is a FEATURE, they would NEVER fuck over their loyal fanbase by shitting out a fanservice game! Praise Miyamoto!
>>340055865
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/xseed_games_will_be_publishing_the_physical_copies_of_shantae_half-genie_hero
found a source.
Even then, this is not a big release. I'm sure it'll be quality, but it's hardly something to be excited for on Wii U.
>>340055962
>NX will be announced with Pikmin 4 and AC U.
This is the gamecube all over again.
>>340056312
at-least it's fucking SOMETHING. Wii U owners need a bone thrown at them.
With Disney Infinite gone, do you think they let Nintendo develop Disney games now and reintroduce some Infinite figures as Amiibos?
>>340056548
Disney is pretty damn strict with licensing that isn't just toys or whatever. They usually want some control over it.
I'd be very surprised if they did.
>>340056548
>caring about jew figurine games
Kid you need to play games that dont try to fuck you in the ass at every corner.
>>340056548
Well, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't those disney Magical World games on 3DS developed by Nintendo?
>>340030491
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/nintendo-treehouse-live-at-e3-2016
Two days of streaming, not three.
>>340030491
>>340056836
>Nintendo heads to E3 once again and brings the coverage directly to you with a two-day program from Nintendo Treehouse: Live at E3! Tune in starting at 9 a.m. PT on June 14 for a day of live-streaming gameplay focused on The Legend of Zelda for Wii U and first live gameplay of Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon that kicks off the program
>Day 2 of Nintendo Treehouse: Live at E3 will showcase upcoming releases for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS, including Monster Hunter Generations, Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE! Day 2 will start with a special Pokémon GO developer Q&A at 10 a.m. PT on June 15
>>340051974
EA's Wii U support was baffling.
Mass Effect 3 was a 8 month old port and didn't come with the DLC and was full priced. Meanwhile The Mass Effect Collection, which came out a few weeks before, came with all the DLC and was sold at a reduced price.
Both Madden and Fifa 2013 were literally the previous iterations repackaged.
The constant delay of Need For Speed for no reason, which sucks because Criterion actually put in effort with the port.
The cancelled port of Crysis 3 when even Crytek get it running on Wii U.
I wouldn't be surprised if EA and Nintendo never worked with each other again.
>>340056357
Its something WiiU owners can buy. The post I was referring to originally was missing games.
>>340056357
>big release
Define this
>>340051928
good, I'd rather the animal crossing team work on the next Splatoon or something else instead of wasting any more time on that shit franchise.
>>340057429
not a fucking indie game. Something that will sell more than 20k on the system by the end of the year.
Mario, Zelda, fucking Madden. ANYTHING from a big publisher.
>>340030491
>information about Pokemon Sun/Moon and the beta launch of Pokemon GO have basically taken all of the steam out of how great the presentation would be. Why would Nintendo pass on the prospect of revealing the new beginner Pokemon at E3
why is that a problem? When X/Y showed up at E3 it also already showed its starters well in advance, but it was still hype because they showed Fairy type, Pokemon Amie, andlike 8 new pokemon. There's still so much that's mysterious about Sun/Moon right now, and I've seen a lot of Pokemon fans happy they're getting something at all at the is one-trick Eponya show.
>>340030491
I don't get this
Nintendofags ALWAYS hype everything
I remember last e3, the idiots creating lots of Hype for a shitty underwhelming conference.
Now it's happening again but with Zelda, they suddenly think that the next Zelda will be some god tier game with ground breaking gameplay elements but at the end of the day it will be the same shit for the last decade.
Also no, they aren't gonna show Zelda NX when they even haven't revealed the platform
Why are Nintendrones so stupid?
>>340057571
Xseed are a big publisher
>>340057662
>Xseed is a big publisher
do you actually believe that
>>340057662
4 Wii U
>>340056757
I believe there were a few Nintendo developed/published Disney games. Mickey's Speedway USA was developed by Rare and Nintendo published.
>>340056813
You know youwant to play vidya with the rabbit.
>>340056831
Was a Namco thing. Nintendo did publish it however outside of Japan.
Speaking of Namco. It's weird they haven't made had a Pokémon x Digimon yet.
>>340057334
>I wouldn't be surprised if EA and Nintendo never worked with each other again.
Apparently EA was really sour over Nintendo not willing to put Origin on the Wii U. They did work with each other on online and EA proudly announced it at E3. That was back when Riggatoni was still head of EA.
>>340057609
>remember last e3, the idiots creating lots of Hype for a shitty underwhelming conference.
It was on the back of a mini direct, presumably because they couldn't fit everything in to the main direct, NWC, and with 3 days of gameplay from treehouse to look forward to. Nintendo fans can't see in to the future, you fag
>>340057609
Nintendo fan here. The only thing I'm hyped for is Zelda and only because we have seen literally zero gameplay since the game was announced two goddamn years ago.
Otherwise there's really nothing to be excited about.
>>340057609
would rather be too optimistic than too pessimistic if you can't strike a middle ground, would you not agree?
>>340056548
>>340056757
like let's keep in mind Disney even was so strict over what properties could mix with what in Infinity itself. Spider-man and Buzz weren't allowed to show up in star wars areas, and so on. It's the whole reason Kingdom Heart worlds don't mingle.
>>340054453
I dunno about you, but 2014 was hype the whole way.
>>340057843
>The only thing I'm hyped for is Zelda and only because we have seen literally zero gameplay since the game was announced two goddamn years ago.
Actually, i would be more cautious than hyped if that's the case
Games delayed several years aren't always good
>>340057846
Enjoy your inevitable disappointment then.
>>340057609
As a Nintendo fan, I never hyped jack shit. I am usually the faggot that always screams to keep the expectations low.
>>340057976
It's Zelda, man. I can't help it. Even if it turns out to be shit I'm gonna be a little excited. We only get a new 3D zelda every so often.
I know it was delayed to 2016 and now it's being intentionally held back for an NX launch to have a killer app (something the Wii U never had). But I trust that they are onto something considering the only truly bad Zelda was SS and that thing went through development hell that makes Zelda U look good.
>>340057962
2013 was a pants shitter. I still remember the fallout leftover from the Megaman reveal.
>>340057881
Pretty sure that's because of all the other licensing deals. EA has the Star Wars games and Sony still has their hands on Spider-Man's movie license at the time which probably lead Disney/Marvel to not promote Spidey too much together with other properties.
Maybe Disney could have done it and were s´just strict like you said, but licensing can be complicated. Especially with Disney.
>>340057609
>hindsight is a great thing
>the post
This guy
>>340058259
Well, if you are excited for the casual gamergurl series, i guess i can't help it.
People should get some real standards.
>>340030491
>Am I the only one who thinks that Nintendo has been behaving strangely,
Stopped reading. Literally kill yourself
Here's how NX will sell millions:
Make Spla2on.Add Yuri Squid Campaign.
>>340059121
>splatoon will forever be a one-off
>it will never have a sequel
>nintendo will discard it as a mistake
>No mention in future smash as trophies
>nintendo ignores questions about splatoon in interviews
>>340059305
I feel like this is a reference to something.
>>340059305
Splatoon is their most successful new IP in ages, what makes you think this will happen?
>>340059432
It's Nintendo.
>>340059606
>lol nintendo gonna nintendo
I thought this was /v/, not Neogaf.
All successful new IPs made by nintendo got a sequel.
>>340059729
I'm mainly shitting around, no need to get all accusatory fampai.
I expect Splatoon to get a sequel, wouldn't be surprised if its being developed for NX launch window.
>>340032307
None of the other anons, but show me an article where Sega said they never sell their IPs if they were to go in the shitter.
Unlike Sega, Nintendo has specifically said that in the past.
>>340037074
>Quizon-3
>The literal cuckold planet
>>340059432
Splatoon will get a port at best.
When is day 1?
>>340062152
Tuesday the 14th if I'm not mistaken.
>>340061991
People keep saying nintendo will port smash 4, MK8 and splatoon to NX, trusting idiots like emily rogers and Neogaf.
Nintendo would never do that. They would rather make proper sequels that a simple port. Think about it, why porting onld games to beloved series when they can make a sequel, hype it to the roof and sell it for full price?
They will make Smash 5, MK9 and spla2n for NX. Not ports.
>>340062337
They ported Donkey Kong and Hyrule Warriors to 3DS.
They even talked about the new Nintendo OS to be easier to port between the mobile and console variants.
>>340062281
But that's the Zelda day. Did OP fuck the days up?
>>340062337
>Nintendo would never do that. They would rather make proper sequels that a simple port.
Are you new?
>>340062337
>trusting idiots like emily rogers and Neogaf.
Pretty sure it's been theorized and wished before those shitheads made a big leak or something out of it.
>>340062337
Nintendo only makes sequels to showcase gimmicks nowadays. What can they add to Splatoon? If Miyamoto is around, it's destined to rot like F Zero.
Also, Wii U proved how terrible they are for HD development. NX will be all about cuting corners. They bleed to much money with the Wii U, so they'll save all the investment with ports (the new Zelda is proof).
>>340062732
The first day IS Zelda day.
>>340062838
Tropical Freeze didn't showcase any gimmicks. Nor did NSMB U or Bayonetta 2.
>>340062976
Two of those games are not Nintendo. Mario U was a launch title on a multimillion seller franchise. Splatoon 4 millions are a joke compared to Mario shit.
>>340063203
>Nintendo wants to shoehorn gimmicks into everything
>except when they don't, but those cases don't count because I say so
>>340063203
>Two of those games are not Nintendo
Retro IS Nintendo. Please, avoid any further mental gymastic.
>>340063203
Retro is a Nintendo owned developer studio. Bayonetta was actually co-developed by Nintendo. They gave Platinum a few helping hands.
>>340063531
You know what i meant. TF was not developed "in house". Retro uses Unreal 2 for their games. Nintendo builds engines for every game, and that doesn't cut it in the HD world.
>>340063508
2D Mario doesn't need gimmicks to sell. I'm not even counting the tablet use in that game.
>>340063892
>engines!
that doesn't change the fact it was funded by nintendo and there's no gimmick in that game.
>>340063892
It doesn't matter what you meant or not. Retro is Nintendo, Tropical Freeze is made by Nintendo, Nintendo isn't only EAD and the handful Kyooto studios.
You are like those people that to this day still wrongly think monolith Soft is not part of Nintendo.
>>340064024
Literally the only game.
>>340064139
Doesn't change the point that HD Nintendo has been a clusterfuck overall.
>>340049403
>Nu-uh the post
>>340064507
>Doesn't change the point that HD Nintendo has been a clusterfuck overall.
I never denied that, don't move the goalspot. You were wrong about Retro not being Nintendo and now you stand corrected. That's all that I wanted.
>>340064507
> Literally the only game.
And Bayo 2. And Pikmin 3. And 3D World. And Xenoblade Chronicles. And #FE. And Smash 4. And-
you know what, fuck you.
I don't get how they fucked up so badly te past 2 E3s.
They won without a doubt in 2014, and they even had a pretty good 2013 as well, but these past 2 they shit the bed
>>340064880
>past 2
>2015
>2014
>they won 2014
>past 2 they shit the bed
would you like to try again?
>>340064706
We were talking about NX ports.
>>340064734
EAD developed games you dense motherfucker.
>>340064880
It's a tad too soon to judge this year's E3, you know. Maybe, since people has lower expectations compared to last year, it could be better.
>>340065138
You never said EAD fucker.
And since we're moving goalposts EAD doesn't exist anymore so you can say they don't make any games. :^)
>>340065157
ehhh....it's kind of hard to say they even have a presence at E3 considering there's no digital event and there won't be any new game announcements.
>>340065442
I was not ready to face severe autism on a sunday morning. Jesus christ. All because of Splatoon.
I swear Nintendo literally base their decisions on sales chart without any thought.
Bet they looked at last year's stream and go "hey there are quite a number of views on twitch but direct reviews are utter shit. So i guess they don't like direct! Next year will be twitch onry!"
Do they understand that E3 is only successful when they have a proper showcase of surprise games and game trailers?
Why even bother coming to E3 if you are just going to show all your cards 1 month before?
Treehouse stream is nothing without the direct to give people context and reason to actually watch wtf they are playing. Similarly, direct is just empty hype without treehouse to showcase gameplay. What they are doing is fucking stupid from a marketing perspective.
>>340065761
>>340065138
Don't act all cocky and pissed. You said a stupid thing and you have been corrected. To avoid further embarassment, I suggest you to quit it, you are still in time.
>>340065761
you made a stupid claim, got called out by multiple people, said "nuh uh those don't count", moved goalposts, backpedaled, and now say you're facing autism. Get fucked.
>>340065824
People told them the E3 Direct sucked so Nintendo will ot do one this year.
>>340065541
Not to sound too precise but they have a pretty big presence at E3, since they have a big area on the floorshow, as big as Microsoft's one.
Sure, there's no digital Event but they are still there.
We can't even be sure about "no new game announcementes". I mean, no company would spill the beans before the events themselves. But yeah, you have a point about that. They are still there at E3 though.
>>340066224
when are they gonna announce them? In the middle of the streams?
>>340065824
This year is a year of stalemate for Nintendo. The NX will launch next year but for some reason they can't show it at E3. That's the only reason why they won't do a conference/digital event.
>>340066197
I think (or am at-least hoping) they're holding off a direct for an NX-focused direct later this month or in august or september.
>>340066317
Why not? Again, I admit it's not very likely but nothing stops them from announcing even one small 3DS game out of the blue.
>>340066431
There are rumors pointing to september, and it'll be a live event.
>>340066518
Well, for one reason it's incredibly unprofessional. Less people watch a stream than a direct. Plus they have to announce some sort of schedule with streaming so people know when to tune in.
>>340066565
I hope so. The one where they announced Bayonetta wrote history.
>>340066859
how big of a fucking baby do you have to be to get upset over exclusivity?
Like it's not unheard of.
>>340066838
>Less people watch a stream than a direct
Were't the Treehouse streams pretty much the most viewed shows in the last two E3?
>>340067117
It was more about Nintendo than exclusivity. It was hilarious though.
>>340034652
>we
speak for yourself, ive been a nintendo fan since donkey kong and the super scope, i want nintendo to suceed but its hard when you're fucked in the ass repeatedly by false promises, and leaving people in the dark. people who want nintendo to fail are spurned fanboys who made the switch to microsoft or sony, or even pc and have a holier than thou attitude, spouting "nintendo is doomed and its okay if nintendo does it." the "gaming industry" has been fucked since post 2006 since paid online for consoles, the failure of the WiiU and the rerelase of the PS4 and Xbone for just a minor graphical improvement and minor CPU increase has fucked everyone who supported it over.
It has been a slow descent into shoody business practices and shit.
Gaming was ruined ever since it became mainstream, its not about fun or a pasttime, it is about money, and self destructive competitiveness
>>340067473
>>340067351
what a bunch of shitters. Fuck 'em for participating in the console gayshitters war.
>>340035296
Opinions CAN be wrong if they misinformed, ignorant, and what have you.
You can't be wrong about how you feel, but you can be wrong about the legitimacy of that feeling. For instance, I can't be wrong about whether or not I like a movie, but I can be wrong about the quality of the movie.
Relativists are the worst fucking people to deal with. Period. What's the fucking point of having a discussion about anything if "hurr its everyone opinion dey all matter the same!"? Someone can eat shit and say they eat shit but it doesn't mean that shit doesn't taste terrible.
>>340067479
>gaming is ruined
the retirement home is that way grandpa. You can go rant about DKC2 over there.
Are you prepared?
>>340067351
>>340067654
Let me see if I find the one with tweets praising Scalebound(?) to be XBone exclusive.
>>340067479
I'll get a truckload of shit for saying this but I still have hope in the indie game scene.
>>340034886
>still stupid as fuck how people are going "NINTENDO ARE BEING JEWS" and shit when they're the publisher and company that has waited the longest with the whole mobile shit and DLC
I like how this is where your argument has shifted as you can no longer say that Nintendo isn't doing mobile shit and DLC
>>340030491
Stupid idiot never learns....
Remember Nintendo was gonna reveal a Metroid title last year? And everyone got excited as FUCK cause it was the most anticipated thing Nintendo could do? And you were all speculating and coming up with bizarre theories, just like you did in the OP....... just to end up getting your shit slapped in with that shit heap of a..... "new Metroid game"..... in the end? Remember that?
This is exactly what will happen again. Your stupid speculations. Your stupid hype. Will equate in the gnashing of your teeth in the end, yet again, when Nintendo comes through delivering a half assed pile of shit, yet again.
>>340067880
Sam > Everyone else >Shit >Alison "pedo and proud" rapp
>>340067473
>>340066859
I think my favorite things about these posts are the accusations that Platinum are sellouts.
NO FUCKING SHIT THEY'RE SELLOUTS DUMBASS THEY GET PAID TO MAKE GAMES
like jesus, imagine if you're an independent company that gets approached and says "HEy, we'll pay you extra if you make this game exclusively for our audience".
Fuck yeah I'd take the money. I lose nothing by making it exclusive.
>>340030491
you guys are seriously surprised when their only competent dev Iwata slowly got sick and then died, and suddenly the company is running around like chickens with their head cut off
>>340067993
I like Federation Force. I never expected something bigger or mindblowing though because, unlike metroidfags, I can keep my expectations in check.
>>340067880
Sam and Audrey forever!
>>340068239
Considering the last proper game we got was shit and 6 years ago, it's not unreasonable to see people upset over a spin-off.
woosh
>>340068276
They're basically Rosalina and Peach while Repp was fanart Daisy.
>>340054728
>>340067479
Don't bother, you're wasting your breath. Nintendo fans are just as zelaous and assinine as any other fanbase, immune to logic and turn their nose at reason.
>>340034862
>I'll be happy with whatever Nintendo does at E3
>>340068361
I can accept being upset, I can't accept becoming usufferable and annoying faggots, throwing fits like kindergarten children.
>>340068580
Christ. I knew that would happen if an exclusive was ever announced on one of the other systems but I still allow myself to be surprised by these people.
>>340068627
I can cherrypick too, but you don't see me doing it.
>>340065923
>>340065914
This is some weapons grade autism right here
>>340068627
It's like you purposely missed the point of one of those two posts. But speaking of "asisnine", I couldn't expect less by a poster like you, kiddo.
>>340068762
It's not cherrypicking. Do you want me to quote this whole thread?
>>340068819
>no u
>kiddo
Just drink bleach and end it already.
Nintendo fell from my good graces after fatal frame bring censored enough that a point in the plot actually becomes retarded due to no costume change. Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, and that shit jpop game are just icing on the cake.
>>340068819
>"asisnine"
whoops there goes your supreme gentleman facade of intelligence on which you've built your unwarranted superiority complex
>>340066859
people are still salty to this day, Bayo2 is a fantastic game first day purchase here feelsawesome.jpg
>>340068361
this. i would've seriously preferred fucking metroid pinball 2, to what they announced. and the worst part is that they introduced it under a different name the day before (Blast Ball), at the NWC.
I was watching people's reactions to Blast Ball and it was pretty weak. The reactions the next day, when people discovered that had actually been a demo of a minigame in Federation Force, were much more intense, i would say ... close to vitriolic.
>>340069162
>first day purchase here feelsawesome.jpg
>>340068942
>nintendo fell
it's the same thing they've been doing for 20 years
People act like nintendo started censoring games "suddenly". Look back in the SNES library by games localized by Nintendo and even games not. There is TONS of censorship. NOA didn't change a damn thing, people just started noticing it more.
The only thing different now is that NOA localizes more games.
>>340069208
>it's the same thing they've been doing for 20 years
Except there was a noticble decrease over those 20 years. I mean in the late 90s and early 00s, Nintendo was releasing and publishing M rated games. That was a thing.
How many consistent bits of censorship were there on the Gamecube? I can't name half a dozen like I can practically with the Wii U.
NOA's localization policies are abject dogshit. If you honestly defend them after what happened to Fatal Frame then you're beyond hopeless.
>>340069207
getting it on release day was great you seem upset
>>340069445
>u mad
fuck me I'm talking to an actual child
>Post stupid shit
>Get called out for that by somewone else
>Hurr see? Nintendo fans are totally shit eating children!
Well, the epic trolls arrived, time to jump out the ship.
>>340069413
>Nintendo was releasing and publishing M rated games.
maybe one or two. It was a rarity back then.
>>340069737
>I mean in the late 90s and early 00s,
>>340051567
>Metroid games
>mattering at all
LOL
>>340069413
Don't even bother. This thread is a circlejerk.
>>340068580
Say, have we ever heard of that new game again?
How are people not bored of Mario and Zelda and shit yet?
Nintendo needs to make some new stuff.
On the other hand is it even possible anymore to make vidya characters that have the mass appeal as Mario/Link/etc?
>>340069825
Did I fucking stutter?
Perfect Dark is published by Rare outside of Japan. Same with Conker.
Eternal Darkness is the only game I can think of globally published by Nintendo that was rated M back in the day.
>>340069413
>NOA's localization policies are abject dogshit. If you honestly defend them after what happened to Fatal Frame then you're beyond hopeless.
Wasn't that NoE?
>>340069207
>>340069512
Being this butthurt that someone enjoyed Bayonetta 2 calling others children when posting meme image. Come back when your older kid.
Remember the good times
>>340070212
>Perfect Dark is published by Rare outside of Japan.
Nope. By Nintendo. Rare never published a game in the mid 90's - early 2ks. Nintendo even heavily promoted PD.
And then there was Geist another M rated game published by Nintendo.
>>340070471
>10,005 posts
Oh fug.
>>340069208
See, the snes was nefarious for that, I get it and I experienced it back in the day, but for a while there? It seemed like the were letting anything slide and it let a ton of stuff come out that made the system interesting. Things like REmake, Eternal Darkness, Killer 7, RE4, and on the Wii, mad world and no more heroes 1 and 2 made new think that there was a place for games that wouldn't be softened up for a western audience. Now Rt the wiiu is out, I can see I was wrong and it's actually stepped back to the snes era, where even teen plus games are getting toned down to avoid complaints. I think the only game for wiiu that avoided this shit is bsyonetta 2, honestly.
>>340054453
I've never been allowed to complain in a Nintendo thread about the direction they are going in, it's like Nintendo fanboys flip out and rip your balls off with their autistic rage.
>>340067479
>>340067756
As soon as the "infinite" progression treadmill dies games will be better. Until then we have shit ahead.
>>340071305
ok anon, you have my personal permission this time
>>340071305
Don't underestimate the dedicated, unbridled autism Nintendo fans possess. They're been playing the exact same games for years.
>>340052310
ZombiU did less than 300k lifetime according to leakers
>>340051974
>Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
>Port of a game that was already out for 5 months and no one liked it on Xbox or Playstation either
Razors Edge completely fixed the mess that was 3 though, widely regarded as the much, MUCH better game
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