I'm truly baffled that steaming piles of shit like this game are still released in this day and age. How is it fucking legal? How can developers be so completely not self aware? The cherry on top is that disgrace of an ending that leaves the series open for sequels in an attempt to grab more cash, just in case they accidentally made something that is t worthless. The whole time I was waiting for the end just so I could say I finished it, but it was so unsatisfying it's like I got punished for beating the game. It was like holding in a sneeze. I would have preferred the developer to just come to my house and take a shit on my face instead.
Pic unrelated ofc. Wolfenstein was amazing.
Wolfenstein TNO was awesome
>posts pic of one of the very few games this gen to not be a pile of shit
>>340019062
Apart from the ending, what are your problems with the game? You seem to have forgotten to list them.
>>340019062
(You)
yeah it's pretty bad, the story is trash and the gunplay is CoD tier
>>340019170
What was amazing about it? The gameplay was kind of fun, but so shallow and nothing we all haven't played hundreds of times before. And those missions between the shoot em up missions were so fucking boring they put me to sleep holy shit what a waste of time what were they thinking.
I couldn't get past the first 30 minutes and how utterly un-FPS-like it was.
>fly this plane
>open this hatch
>seal this valve
>release this cargo
>heal this guy
>land this plane
>swim to this other plane
I mean jesus, just when I thought they'd hand me a gun and tell me to shoot things it just kept going like this. I kept asking myself "This is Wolfenstein, right? I mean, I didn't download Gone Home 2 by mistake?" It saddened me more to realize I was playing the right game.
>>340019062
>>340019470
Maybe an FPS was a bad choice for you then, I suggest RPGs or card battle games since your reason for hating the game described the entire FPS genre.
>>340019385
Every aspect of the game that didn't involve shooting guys with guns was garbage and even that was mediocre. Just because it wasn't a railshooter and you had to find your way around doesn't mean it was automatically good.
>60 fps cap
>can't remove without fucking up game timing
Dropped right out the fucking gate. What is this, a Bethesda game? Seriously fuck Carmack and his "60fps is fine" bullshit. I'm so glad id kicked him to the fucking curb, he nearly ruined PC gaming
>>340019929
>60fps is fine
but it is you autist
>>340019470
Not everything needs to be mechanically deep, or new and original. It's possible to just be a good ol fashioned fun game.
>>340020170
Spoken like someone who hasn't experienced 120hz+
Console faggots think 30fps is fine too, and you know better. Don't you think that maybe you're just ignorant?
I'm not saying a game *has* to be 120fps, I'm saying there isn't a reason it should be *arbitrarily* kept from going that fast when your PC has the power to do it.
>>340019819
Well then it's a good thing you spend nearly all of your time shooting guys with guns then isn't it?
>>340019819
>Every aspect of the game that didn't involve shooting guys with guns was garbage
so... none of it was garbage? can you reiterate what you didn't like and why?
>>340019062
Did we play the same game?
It's so fucking sluggish and tedious to play
You have to constantly stop and press X to pickup shit instead of automatic pickups like Wolf3D/Quake/DOOM
and you always get interuppted with cinematic quicktime event bullshit, it's dumb.
I like the aesthetic - but it goes to waste
>>340020287
No-one but tech autists really care about going above 60fps anon, there's really no reason to do so apart from going "look how good my computer is". A few years back most people were arguing that 60fps was the highest you needed, and it's just jumped up to 120fps for no apparent reason.
>>340019062
This game and DOOM were so fucking great, god damn its amazing how ID is now back on track with good shooters.
Hoping to get a QUAKE 1 type of game in the future
How to identify a hipster: They hate on The New Order.
>>340020384
>>340020494
You've been bombarded with shit games for so long that you have no standards left. Just because the gunplay, one element of the game, was acceptable(barely) it doesn't mean that it was good or worth defending on the Internet.
>>340019062
Wolfenstein TNO and TOB are goat, my bait-tossing friend.
>>340020878
>for no apparent reason
It became affordable, actually, and thanks to consoles, PCs (good ones, anyway) have a lot of overhead now that graphical fidelity is not being pushed anymore. So why not use that overhead for increased framerate?
It's not worthless, the difference is totally obvious once you see it, ESPECIALLY in FPS games. Without mouse smoothing enabled, 60fps in an FPS feels really jerky to me, and enabling mouse smoothing gives you less input accuracy. And that's just the visual argument, 120hz is also much less laggy. Just moving my cursor around the desktop right now and it feels like it has a 1-to-1 correspondence with my hand movement, something I'm sure you also think is true for your 60hz monitor, but that's just because you haven't experienced this yet
There's always a resist to change but this is just one of those bullshit things when there's no good reason to cap things arbitrarily like this, just because some developers are incredibly lazy and they don't want to add a couple of interpolation functions in their physics engine. Literally all it takes and we can stop arbitrary caps. Surely you're upset when games are capped at 30 fps? 10 years from now you'll think the same way I do now about 60 fps caps.
>>340020879
TNO wasn't made by id
>>340020287
Oh... another Captain Autismo
>>340021256
i'm not defending it, i'm just asking you about your experience.
personally, i thought it was fun. the only straight-up shooter in a long time that was fun enough for me to complete. also, this "one element" is totally ubiquitous throughout the game so i think it's fair to find the game fun because of it.
>>340020750
>You have to constantly stop and press X to pickup shit instead of automatic pickups
Heaven help you if you decide to play anything other than modern CoD trash.
I really loved the story desu. Love really can bloom on the battlefield.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wFK2n27OUu4
>>340021241
Which is odd, because it plays like an older, late 90s fps.
Hipsters love old shit.
>>340020879
Doom was shit. Putting it in the same boat as Wolfenstein is fucking stupid. They have completely different developers.
Wolf had a great take on a the story. The gameplay was weighty and the guns varied. I was a little slow at times though. The world buidling was fantastic. The way they portrayed BJ was oustanding. I loved the idea of him doing what he needed to, reflecting on his choices, his life, and the state of the world in the manner that he did was refreshing. Having him die and having the story get wrapped up was great too.
It was a good game. Not much replayability though. It did cinematic the right way.
>>340021586
Hello underaged who has never played a 90s first person shooter like Doom or Quake.
>>340020170
I've been enjoying 144 for months now and can't see myself ever going back.
>>340021676
How the fuck is DOOM shit?
It has great gameplay, Story is "there" and you can expand it with the data logs and the world around it, DOOM guy feels like he has a personality even if he dosent say a word thought the entire game, all the weapons feel great and it feels fun to fight the demons.
>>340021725 you're dumb
I'm pretty sure >>340021586 was calling >>340020750 underage seeing as >>340020750's idea of a good shooter involves nothing but unlimited ammo and regenerating blood eye sockets.
>>340021676
I think that TNO and Doom both represent very different and very good efforts at reviving classic franchises. Frankly I'm stunned that they both turned out so well.
>>340021725
Go back and play Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, CoD 1, Half-Life 1, etc.... Faggot.
The Wolfenstein series was never a fast-pace arena shooter like Quake, Unreal, etc.
If I'm 15, why do I have RtCW on Retail Disc, which I recently re-installed a few months ago?
>>340021523
I had an alright time shooting guys but my experience was completely spoiled by everything else. The ending I took as a slight to everything I stand for. To each his own I guess my friend.
>>340022008
Is what i am saying, is pretty impressive to see a old title coming out in recent time and not begin shit for once.
Is this another "let's call a good game shit in order to get a rise" thread?
>>340022227
Already wrong. Half-Life and other games did not need a use key to pick items up. Nice try though :)
>>340019062
Pic unrelated
>>340022227
The multiplayer in Allied Assault was fun as hell.
>>340021907
It's an arena after arena crapfest that's filled to the brim with QTE's and a low number of enemies to boot.
>>340021654
I hope for his sake that he never played Wolfenstein 2009. He would've actually killed himself if he finds TNO to be too modernized.
>>340019509
Frankly, that wasn't a great way to start the game for people expecting WOLFENSTEINbut I still liked it.
Give it more time and you'll see how FPS-like it is, because you didn't play the game.
>Complaining about FPS games being generic
>>340022582
>because you didn't play the game.
I tried to
Maybe when it's on sale for $5 or something I'll try again, but it seemed way too QTE for me
>>340022942
They are surely there in sequences, but if you're looking for a more gamey modern wolfenstein then I highly recommend The Old Blood. Very straight and to the point.
>>340019062
It was more movie, but atleast gameplay was decent.
John Cena character was a big surprise 'its all canon' thing was fun. The ending was shiza to short or abrupt.
It didn't try to focus on innovation or reinvent FPS but tried to polish its points.
Art was decent minus few gun gripes but its passable
music was interesting
VA was decent.
It was a decent game not 10/10 but good fun.
>>340021661
>Which is odd, because it plays like an older, late 90s fps
>>340023110
>then I highly recommend The Old Blood
That is a consideration I guess, I just thought it would be more of the same
>>340022942
>>340023110
I only remember like 3 QTE. Majoirty of time i gunning down nazis screaming in funny delicous langauge.
>>340023313
They tone down the cut-scenes, so it's basically a more action. Plus it's cool as fug.
new wolfenstein game was trash and for some reason its praised here
doom isn't good either and is praised excessively here. doom wouldn't have registered a fart on the radar ~2000 because the gameplay just isnt particularly good
people are hungry for good fps, but when i watch these overwatch webms that these kids bother to make, i really wonder if they could handle it.
I honestly liked Wolf09 more. Raven Software knows how to make enjoyable games.
>>340022470
Nigga you didnt play it if you think that it has QTEs or low number of enemies
The only thing right is the arena after arena, same thing that Wolfestain had
>>340022353
Maybe I was thinking of regenerating health then...
The point is that TNO and TOB play like 90s "cinematic" shooter. Not "game-y," fast pace arena shooters like Quake, Unreal, etc.
If you want to run around a level at 50 mph, play those. And bitching about having to press a button to pick shit up is dumb too since almost every other genre does it.
>>340023637
>The point is that TNO and TOB play like 90s "cinematic" shooter.
there were not 90s "cinematic" shooters. give an example of a game that fits this description.
>>340023472
They're using their Autismo-focus powers too much to keep track of their "competitive" stats.
Sometimes shooting shit is simply the point. They make a game that is simply fun to shoot shit... not collect trophies, not collect kill steaks, not even "beat" other humans...
>>340023767
uncharted 4?
Garbage console game. Console babies love it!
>>340019062
it's about what you can expect from a modern shooter m8, the real problem is how most people gave it a free pass on all the bullshit
Doom was a little better but got the same treatment of retards gushing over the SP and saying it's the best thing ever
>>340023876
>start game
>go through a 40 minute cinematic sequence and several "set piece" gameplay elements mixed with copypasted corridors and enemies with their backs turned to me
>it's so much like 90's fps you guys!
metallica is not the beatles, therefore it is classical music
>>340023767
half-life was honestly approaching that territory
>>340023998
>go up to a guy
>press e to kill because the game took all my guns and is forcing me to do stealth
>>340023530
Never played it, how does it compare to the TNO and TOB?
>>340023767
All the Medal of Honor Series.
Half-life 1 simply because it has a story
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Goldeneye
Turok
CoD1
Basically anything with a narrative and not just "pick up gun and kill things."
>>340019062
Nice bait.
That was one of the best games in 2014.
>>340024016
no, it wasn't, and this is a neo-/v/ opinion that first appeared in like 2013
being first to do something matters and we were fucking amazed by half-life when it came out. it's *still* amazing.
>>340023998
Not going to lie, the first level of TNO wasn't that great, but the rest of the game was fun as hell.
>>340022276
A slight against everything you stand for? How so?
>>340024139
>Half-life 1 simply because it has a story
yeah no, sorry, half-life 1 plays basically like quake
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
also plays like quake. you seem to have forgotten how fast this game is, or weren't skillful enough to take advantage of it. it's quake3 engine son get your strafe jump on
>Goldeneye
>Turok
console shit isn't in the discussion, lol.
i'll concede on medal of honor and cod1, but not because they were "cinematic" i would NOT call them that, simply that they were slower...which makes sense its a fucking ww2 game not a sci fi game
>>340024184
still, it was the beginning of the end
up until that point FPS games didn't have stories, quake2 had an intro movie and an end movie and that was it, otherwise just moving from mission to mission and who cared, just shoot these guys
half-life tried to make an interactive movie
granted most games these days are non-interactive movies especially during cutscenes but they are ultimately just deviations of the formula half-life started
>>340024521
>still, it was the beginning of the end
no, it wasn't, that's the other half of your 2013 neo-v opinion
the beginning of the end was halo. half-life doesn't contain any component that led to the downfall of fps
>half-life tried to make an interactive movie
no, it really didn't, there are about 6 minutes of scripted sequences in the 13-14 hours of gameplay. overemphasizing this and not understanding that halo killed fps is pretty much the most 100% maximum neo v thing you can do. sorry kid.
>>340024139
Wolf09 basically plays like COD2 mixed with Bioshock. Some of the modern FPS cliches sting it a bit, but it has a good length and good amount of hidden gold to look for. This review does a better job of describing it than my dumb ass can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBqUkGwHS24
>>340024786
Is the ending worth it? Never finished because those magic powers and shit really fucking annoyed me back then
This hyperbole gets you nowhere. I lost interest and couldn't even get through it because it has one of the most pitiful weapon selections of all time, but it's still a serviceable 6/10 game.
>>340025972
I was thinking that too but then it struck me that the original Wolf 3D only had a few weapons too
>>340019631
Not all fps games
>put tiny ramps everywhere to keep you from backtracking
>give you exactly 2 ways of playing the game/completing missions
>60fps lock
>weapons deal less damage when enemies can see you (watch youtube video about pistol)
>90% hallway combat where you hold m1 and m2 and win
>cutscene every 3 minutes
>same 3 enemies through the entire game
>shotgun/laser/pistol/rifle/sniper generic guns
I like fps games, I don't like bad fps games. I regret buying wolfenstien 100%
>>340020878
>No-one but tech autists really care about going above 60fps
Once you play an fps at 144ghz you will understand how wrong you are.
Night and day, more frames to react to is always better and restricting something that has been here as long as computer games have because you're shit at programming cannot be excused.
>>340026840
>more frames to react to
It is better, but good job proving you don't have any fucking idea what you're talking about.
>and restricting something that has been here as long as computer games
FPS limits are as old as computer games, faggot.
>>340027274
>quake 3
>an fps limit
Go ahead and kys you underage cuck
>>340027492
>quake 3 is the start of computer games
>cherrypicking the absolute best at those sorts of things
>>340027745
>quake
>an fps limit
Kys
>>340027882
>doom
>not having an FPS limit
kys underage :^)
You know as well as I do that quake was the absolute upper limit of allowing freedom, and not even close to the average.
>>340027882
actually quake had an fps limit of 72
and 125 fps in quake 3 would increase your jump speed/height a little not so abusable in quake but other games like cod had a lot of unintentional tricks you could pull off using this bug
>>340029031
He wouldn't know that, he's only played it on sourceports
