What are your hopes for Xenoverse 2 now that we know DB Super is going back to the edgy DBZ roots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdFAm8ZwMlA
>>339995129
It makes no sense for Mai to be that young.
Is this Trunks the same from the alternative Android timeline? Meaning he survived the androids thanks to going back to the past, but now this happened?
>>339995390
Pilaf gang de-aged themselves with the Dragon Balls in the 3 years timeskip leading to Cell Saga. Already confirmed by Toriyama in an interview.
>>339995424
Yes.
>>339995390
Dragon balls
>>339995474
>Pilaf gang de-aged themselves with the Dragon Balls in the 3 years timeskip leading to Cell Saga.
Oh please, Toriyama probably just realized he fucked up and threw that in.
>>339995565
Doesn't matter since it still fits age-wise.
>>339995129
>edgy DBZ roots
fucking edgy americans
why can't you understand that dragon ball should be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnfX1RmZX8
not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP75aZvWVdw
>>339995784
Yeah man, because Saiyan, Freeza and Cell arcs TOTALLY weren't edgy right?
Because Piccolo Daimao and Ma-Junior arcs also TOTALLY weren't edgy right?I'm not even Amerifat you projecting retard, EU represent.
Serious and decent sounding music
Darker tone
And most importantly, actually decent animation.
So, is Super FINALLY going to start now?
>>339995129
That everything involving equipment and technique drops is revampedAnd that Super content is either not in the game or locked behind paid dlc
>>339995129
Beam Clashes! RNG will cease to be! Play dress up with all your favorite characters - not just created characters! Craft your own special moves! All the trasformations! More transformations than you can shake a power pole at!
>>339996034
>being this mad about Super
>even though its finally getting good
Also I just want them to remove the fucking RNG grind.
Or better yet, remove grind entirely and just make skills and equipment available instantly after doing a mission.
As in, give you all of certain mission's drops as long as you complete it in full.
>>339995921
>freeza
that's the arc where we got the ginyu force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY
>>339995784
CHA LA HEAD CHA LA
>>339995784
all this projection
you seem to forget that most of gokus kill come from db, and that goku literally punched a holl and went through a person as a CHILD
db is bait and switch with its comedy, "edgy" and shounen genres switching it back and forth like a twisted game of ping pong
>>339996156
>good
>bringing back irrelevant futurefag and making an evil Goku instead of further delving into the universes that weren't shown
>>339996437
Fuck the other universes, I've actually been interesting it what Trunks has been up to ever since he killed Cell.
>>339995565
Just tells you how hard Toriyama is shipping Trunks and Mai!
>>339996259
>hurr durr you cant have a serious arc with a bit of humour spliced in
Piccolo Daimao had Yajirobe as comic relief
Ma-Junior had Yamcha getting humilated by Kami as comic relief
Saiyan Saga had Yamcha death pose
Namek had Ginyu Tokusentai
It's perfectly possible to have a serious story with comic relief on the side. It's why people don't like Super because it was full on comic relief until now with 0 serious and most importantly 0 tension and stakes.
BoG was obvious that Beerus is just fucking around and was gonna spare Goku at the end.
RoF had 0 tension because Beerus and Whis were there and Golden Freeza posed literally 0 threat to them.
U6 Tournament again had 0 tension because the only "stake" was Earth swapping universes for which nobody on U7 Earth actually cared.
>>339995129
They'll show more Xenoverse 2 shit in 8 days at E3
I want to get pegged by blonde Lunch
Reminder Future Bulma dies in literally first episode of the new arc.
Trunks is clearly seen crying in the preview which means somebody dies, and we know it's not Mai because of her actress bragging on Twitter that she has a major role now and is going to be in every episode starting with Episode 47, so clearly she's not the one that dies.
Source: https://twitter.com/eiko751/status/734915096791506944
>>339996567
>introduce concept
>immediately toss it to the wayside
>>339996924
Oh sorry, I misspelled her name.
I meant "Best girl"
>>339996964
That's better.
>>339996626
>Saiyan Saga had Yamcha death pose
That was only funny AFTER the fact, especially after Yamcha ended up being an eternal joke of a character.
It was very serious at the time, and it was at that point all the other characters stop fucking around. Shit, they even turn to Bulma and have her crying about hearing it over the radio.
The Saiyan Saga had Gohan trying to survive for humor.
>>339997005
>you will never get dominated by that qt
>>339995565
Did you watch battle of the gods?
what about the leaked spoilers? about Goku clones fusing with each other?
>>339997031
I named a bad example, you named a better one, my point still stands.
>>339996871
I hope we get a playable Mai brining a shotgun to a ki fight.
But what I want most of all is Roshi and Jackie-chun to be playable as well as masters/having moves and specials like MAX Kamehameha.
>>339995129
Good gameplay for the first time in a Dragon Ball game in a decade.
>>339997153
That ain't a leak, that's just a retard on /a/ shitposting
has anyone considered that evil goku might just be turles
>>339997143
Yes. If they did it during the Cell saga, theyd have been babies. They wouldve died of starvation right after making the wish.
>>339996437
The other universes don't mean shit other than being new places for Toriyama to pull new races from since only U6 is at all similar to what we already know.
He may as well have just said there was another planet with Saiyans that branched off from Planet Vegeta hundreds of years ago and he could've still had the rest of the tournament play out exactly the same without even having to introduce the extra universes.
>>339997284
has anyone considered thatfuta lunchmight just be bestfutaregular lunch is also best normal girl
>>339997307
You do realize they kept their knowledge/experience/wisdom right? Even if they de-aged themselves to 3 year olds they'd still know to say eat fucking apples to survive.
>>339997403
How are they gonna get apples as 3 year olds?
>serious as fuck reveal of the new arc
>followed by a fucking picture of Vegeta sucking on a pacifier
TORIYAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>339997465
Pick up fallen apples for example, faggot.
>>339997465
were you a retarded 3 year old? just hit the tree with your head
>>339997350
>regular lunch is also best normal girl
She's good too.I like both personalities
>>339997526
I dont think you can just scour the woods and randomly find fallen apples and eat them as a 3 year old.
>>339997589
Blonde Lunch is my favored form, but both are good. Mostly because blonde Lunch seems like she'd be a gooddom.
>>339996156
best way to do it while still padding out the playtime to make them look better (or whatever it is) is have it that getting the ultimate finish guarantees you one random from the loot table you don't have yet, until you have everything and you just get extra cash and consumables or whatever
>>339997307
>If they did it during the Cell saga, theyd have been babies.
Why? We don't know how old Mai is physically, and using her physical appearance when 60-something years old Mrs Briefs still looks young enough to be one of Videl's friends is stupid. She could easily be in her 20's/30's for all we know.
>>339997634
It's fucking Dragon Ball, stop trying to apply perfect logic to it when fucking Roshi and Krillin (regular humans) had a full Uzi mag unloaded into them and take no damage.
And that was BEFORE Krillin started training under Roshi and when he was still a kid.
>>339997756
Because she was like 10 during the Beerus movie which happened....how many years after Cell? Like 15?
>>339995129
>DB Super is going back to the edgy DBZ roots?
You're a massive fucking idiot, you know that?
>>339995565
It's the same thing they did in GT. Dragons are dicks to people who ask for youth.
>>339997835
Cell Saga is in Age 767
Boo Saga is in Age 774
BoG is Age 778
That places BoG 11 years after Cell Saga.
Oh look it's one of those people who think if you don't like Dragon Ball Super you're "edgy".
It couldn't possibly be the amateurish as fuck animation, ugly and sterile CG art, deviantart OCDNS character design, or the forgettable as fuck music.
Are they gonna ruin the Trunks special the same way they ruined the Bardock special?
>>339998190
>I havent watched the preview for the new arc
>I dont know that the composer got replaced starting with this new arc
>>339998143
So if she made the wish BEFORE the Cell saga in the future then she wouldve been made 0 years old. Theres no way theyd survive if they made the wish in the middle of nowhere which they probably did. Even if they didnt theyd probably get seperated or something.
>>339997212
>Take Mai as your mentor
>Learn supers like duel pistols, shotgun, machine gun
>Learn ultimates like rocket launcher, sniper rifle
>Learn evade skills like smoke grenade
>>339998190
>or the forgettable as fuck music.
Super had music?
>>339998242
Trunks Special was just an adaptation of manga material.
The entire thing with Future Trunks and Future Gohan training, said Gohan dying etc was all in the manga.
The only difference is that in the manga Trunks already had SSJ from birth, similarly to how kid Trunks has it in Boo Saga, while in the TV special they made Gohan's death the trigger for his transformation for extra drama.
>>339998368
needs a gatling gun
>>339998427
neato, what does it have to do with anything tho?
>>339998438
That's where you take Launch as your mentor.
>>339998291
>0 years old
Except they never state their age in BoG/RoF/Super.
Only Mai says that she's 41 years old (in total).
>Dragon Ball super's gonna get edgy
>It's still gonna be shit
>Apologists won't be able to call everyone who doesn't like it "edgy" anymore
Do we know what age in Future Trunks' timeline Piccolo died at? No, we don't.
>>339998605
You asked if they were gonna ruin it, they can't ruin it because it's canon manga material, unlike Bardock Special which isn't canon manga material.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10400717http://www.strawpoll.me/10400716
>>339998828
Yes we do, same age that Androids appear aka Age 767
>>339998835
how does being Manga materiel protect it from being ruined?
The Bardock special was ruined by adding the 'Episode of Bardock' bullshit plot to it. this is essentially the same thing, adding 'newly discovered' powers to an established story.
Super may be total shit, but this may have JUST justified it's existence.
>>339998996
>The Bardock special was ruined by adding the 'Episode of Bardock' bullshit plot to it.
Neither Bardock Special nor Episode of Bardock are canon though you fucking retard, they are in the same vein as the DBZ movies and so on, just promotional cash-in material.
Trunks Story is an actual integral part of the manga and it's not getting erased.
>>339998996
>by adding the 'Episode of Bardock' bullshit plot to it. this is essentially the same thing, adding 'newly discovered' powers to an established story.
That was SO fucking bad.
>>339999000
So wait, is Future Trunks fucking Mai's daughter?
>>339998951
Not the same anon but do you have proof of that? My memory's not the best. With the way Future 17 and 18 they seemed to be the type to play around with people, they played around with Gohan and Trunks for years for example.
>>339999000
witnessed
>>339998996
See, here's the thing. That's a non-canon adaptation by someone who isn't Toriyama and is COMPLETELY separate from Bardock: Father of Goku. No one's making you watch it.
>>339999132
The Bardock special is canon to the anime, since Freiza mentions it on the show.
>>339999132
I think what he's trying to say is that like the Bardock special ruins Bardock, this DBS shit may ruin the Trunks special. Retroactively.
>>339999132
>they are in the same vein as the DBZ movies and so on, just promotional cash-in material.
kinda like what Super is.
>>339999156
No, that IS Mai.
>>339999248
Except he doesn't. Freeza mentions a certain Saiyan that looked like Goku facing him, and that was in the manga.
The entire part BEFORE Bardock hovering in front of Freeza in space however was NOT in the manga and thus is not canon.
>>339999330
epic win my dude keep it up
>>339999343
Oh, so that was Trunks saying that.
>>339999330
Except Super is written by Toriyama and is actually canon.
JUST LET DRAGONBALL DIE ALREADY
IT'S WORSE THAN THE SIMPSONS AT THIS POINT
Have we settled who best girl is yet?
>>339999343
>The entire part BEFORE Bardock hovering in front of Freeza in space however was NOT in the manga and thus is not canon.
but it's in the anime, ergo it's part of the anime's canon.just like GT
>>339999572
What about best girls? Like multiple girls sharing the top spot.
>>339999447
it's a canonical cash grab
>>339999532
But it isn't in the anime you fucking imbecile.
The only part that is in the anime is Bardock floating in space, facing Freeza. And that's exactly wha was in the manga.
What was NOT in the manga was Bardock and his troops conquering some planet, coming back, going back to conquer another planet, Dodoria killing his squad, Bardock getting Spehsul Future Sight Powers, Bardock trying to warn the Saiyans and so on.
Again, you are beyond fucking retarded and should kill yourself.
>>339999460
When Dragonball has celebrity guests for the sole purpose of them being a celebrity then you can talk.
More like Dragon Ball Subpar
>>339999894
More likeMai is for femdom.
>>339999883
Wasn't there a pop idol that guess stared in that one arcade game?
Explain why you dislike Super without talking about the animation.
>>339999460
With Super its like they brought it back but forgot to actually write arcs for it. So we ended up getting repeats of the movies and now we're running back to Future Trunks with Black (Not Turles) Goku. Can't for a new Majinn super boss to appear out of nowhere.
>>339999405
Not that guy but are you seriously denying it? Super is literally a rushed as fuck mess because Toei desperately wanted to ride the success of the 2 movies.
>>340000001
that you were off by one
>>340000001
FUCK
>>339999683
sounds like you're just upset that Bardock special is completely canon, anon.
>>340000001
Kek
>>340000000
>>339999999
>>340000086
Except it ain't and never has been. Move on with your pathetic life.
>>339999883
Shoko-tan and some shitty J-Pop group voiced the teddy bears and shit when Freeza was in hell
>>340000337
Maybe, but they weren't cast as themselves.
>>339999000
...What, the generic anime girl? Why?
>>340000337
But did they play their selves?
>>340000001
The art, the character design, the GT-tier writing, the music, choreography, direction.
And the animation too.
>>340000416
It's Super's artstyle that's generic, not the girl.
>>340000459
>GT-tier writing
Fuck you, at least Goten and Trunks actually get to fuse and we weren't teased about it for no good reason.
hopefully xenoverse 2 brings more lewds, more monkey lewds too
Reminder new episode is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIZGSXjco8g
>>340000416
Agreed, this epic new Mai circlejerking meme is retarded
>>340000565
What do you mean not the girl?
Shes a black haired asian chick.
Fascinating.
>>340000608
I want afuta Taino fapfic
>>340000664
Does she have to be multicolor haired with flower pupils and a dick to be up to your standards?
>>340000795
>and a dick
Yes.
>20 years later, Mai is still perfect
>>340000795
What does it take for an anime girl to actually BE generic to you? Because if she isnt then I dont know what the fuck is.
>>340000916
I wonder what lead her to wanting to fuck Future Trunks.
>>340000967
Have you SEEN him? He's handsome as fuck.
>>340001050
So did she basically just have to flash her panties or a nipple at him to instantly get what she wanted?
>>340000459
>GT-tier writing
That's a load of shit. Things are actually happening in Super, and if it's because they're going around in space then double fuck you because now we're getting to see more of shit that goes down with Galactic Patrol and new toriyama designs.
Why is the manga version so slow?
>>340000967
Just because.
Also to spite Bulma. Because really when you're fucking the son of the women who give you so much trouble all those years ago there's no better way to say fuck you then that.
>>340001253
Frieza was a waste of time. The purple blob monster was a waste of time. The tournament was kinda a little bit entertaining but ultimately there were never any stakes, even if they lost it wouldnt have made a big difference.
I will just leave this here
http://exhentai.org/g/581538/ace1f4f5ca/
http://exhentai.org/g/579786/61a246bae4/
>>340001316
Because this time around the anime is the original material and manga is the adaptation.
>>340001158
I think that Trunks would act like he was uninterested,but Mai would see the bulge in his pants...
>>339996871
Being Future Trunks is suffering
>>339995129
More Towa and time loli.
>>340001538
And then she looks him directly in the eye while prodding his boner.
>>340001253
>Things are actually happening in Super
2 recycled movies, a tournament with no stakes, and a shitton of pointlessly bad filler episodes.
Is purple vegeta "happening" to you?
>new toriyama designs
The only thing he's designed in Super that doesn't look like ass is Vados.
>>340001374
>The purple blob monster was a waste of time.
It was also literally filler. When Toriyama was interviewed about what was coming after the tournament, he only mentioned the Trunks arc. There was no alien super spooge in there. Bringing that up as though it's supposed to be a major part of Super's story is like claiming the driving episode was a major part of Z.
I will 100% give you Frieza though, even moreso with the pointless changes Super made to it over the movie version.
>>340001452
>Shu is on the cover
>But they dont involve Shu anyway
I cant 1 star fast enough.
>>340001374
>Frieza was a waste of time. The purple blob monster was a waste of time.
Wow maybe that's because they were FUCKING FILLER. It was time and resources saved for the tournament and Trunks arc.
>>340001721
>furfag
Get cancer and die, Yiff in hell
>>340001452
>male: bbm
into the trash
>>339997143
Battle of gods is not canon.
>>340001623
Fuck this let's write a doujin post by post
>Trunks tries to push her off because everyone he loves dies
>>340001452
I'm hoping we get some quality Future Trunks/Mai doujins now.
Maybe just one.
>>340001783
Shu a fucking cute you little waste of oxygen bitch
>>340001814
>and then he dies too. The end.
>>340001814
>Mai holds him down with one hand, while reaching into her jacket with the other to producea strap-on
>>340001871
GET
CANCER
AND
DIE
YIFF
IN
HELL
FURFAG
SCUM
>>340001706
Well, then what the fuck is "happening" in super that's so great? It's pretty much all filler. Hopefully the new arc isn't shit, but I don't have high hopes for "black goku".
>>340001871
Honestly the original Dragon Ball version of Shu is way cuter. He's got a really watered down look to him now.
>>340001768
>It was time and resources saved for the tournament and Trunks arc.
>They're saving budget for the Frieza arc!
>They're saving budget for the U6 arc
>They're saving budget for the trunks arc
Spoiler: DBS is a rushed piece of shit.
>>339997669
exactly she's got whatever you're in the mood for
>>340002063
The U6 shit did look better than the previous episodes though.
>>340001962
>He's got a really watered down look to him now.
Super in general.
>>340002063
The preview actually has good animation and art though.
>>340002063
They were never saving budget for Frieza arc. All the movie based stuff was fluff.
>>340001943
Listen you walking abortion, you will never be as cute and pure as Shu is so just give up and kill yourself.
>>340001962
I agree.
>>340002153And I'm always in the mood for getting dominated by a cute girl.
>>340002172
Toriyama's current art style in general really. He finally found the easiest and laziest way to draw everything.
>>340002313
>easiest and laziest way to draw everything
That's what DBZ was.
>Super spent 20 episodes rehashing movies we've already seen, only with worse animation quality
Who greenlit this shit?
>>340002313
>Everyone is lanky fucks
Indeed. Even his copycat artist is better.
>>340001783
>he thinks Hell is real
>>340002358
27 episodes actually if you include the filler.
>>340002154
Aside from literally 15 seconds of Goku vs Hit, not really.
>>340002561I just want to be Lunch's buttslut
MUCH
LARGER
MAPS
I hope it wont be shit like the first one.
>>340001962
This one tail animation has better animation than all of Super.
Are any of you familiar withArtificial Academy 2? I want the hair customization system from that game.
>>340002835
Wrong thread?
......Oh, right, this thread is supposed to be about X..enoverse 2.
>>340002937
Well, if I gotta explain.
AA2 had the hair separated into like 4 categories, front, back, sideburns and accessory.
Basically you can make nearly any hairstyle in it.
>>340002774
Digital animation and moeshit killed anime, Japs are all too content to shit out MLP-tier waifu friendship simulator shit than put actual effort into their storytelling and animation anymore
>>340002835
>>340002937
I really want more news, I want to talk about this game without the ENTIRE conversation being dragon ball super.
>>340003058
That would be nice but we all know we're not getting anything that good. I do hope they improve the character customization shit.
>>340003153
All they need to do is stop being lazy and we could get something like that, I know it won't happen but still.
AA2 was a relatively low budgetporn game.
>>339995129
I wish they would go back to the "martial arts anime without retarded power levels" roots
>>340003128
Honestly the entirely animation industry is collapsing in on itself from this, both anime and western shows are finding the cheapest, fastest, laziest ways to do things and it always comes down to everyone using an incredibly basic animation look/style.
>>340003128
Hopefully in 30 years the new generation will want something else.
>>339998925
lunch a shit
If you don't main the supreme loli of time in XV2 you're officially a homosexual.
Just spreading the word.
>>340003931
Or have taste.
>>340003931
Why would she be playable?
Also her grownup version is better.
>>340003931
>playing anything other than one of your fifteen CaC's
>>340004184
She looks kind of weird and fat.
Android 17 comeback when?
>>340004287
Never.
>>340004237
She's got fat all right, look at dat chest.
>>340004184
Her adult version seems to stop wearing underwear.
>>340004237
wut
>>340004287
it already happened. it was the Super 17 arc and it was terrible
>>340004368
The angle makes her face look kind of fat.
>>340004287
Too busy being a park ranger.
>>340004237
you mean THICK
>>340004184
I don't know why but I REALLY want to fuck tall Kai of Time.
>>340004771
Every form of Kai of time is absurdly fuckable.
>>340004184
>>340004771
I want to have sex with both simultaneously, how would you go about that? Like not a typical threesome, actually simultaneously fucking them.
this shit looks so based
>>339999460
it's not
have you seen/read one piece? now that shit is simpsons tier
So did they make Trunks' hair blue to match Bulma's instead of changing Bulma's hair to purple?
>>340004865
Get both together via time machines
Get someone to erase her past
Superimpose them while they're becoming intangible and transparent
Jerk off because they probably can't touch your dick anymore
>>340004946
Dragon ball super is way worse than the Simpsons right now. It's worse than DBGT. It really doesn't get much more bottom of the barrel than that.
>>340005019
Is there any other way? Maybe delve into some kinkier shit.
>>340004948
Not gonna lie. I'm willing to bet Toriyama forgot it was purple.
>>340005159
That crazy senile fuck
>>340005110
how is it worse? It's a good story unlike GT
>>340005128
Wish on the dragonballs to make them a siamese twin with only one pelvis? You have to get her to agree beforehand first though.
I hope in Xenoverse 2 Supreme Kai of Time switches between her adult and loli versions at will.
>>340005128
master the shadow clone jutsu
>>340005250
It has exactly as bad, or arguably worse, a story as GT. And it's noticeably worse in every other way. Worse animation, worse art, worse character design, worse music.
>>339995129
Just hoping for a good XV3. In the vein of DBZ games (though it applies more generally as well) the third game will be superior.
First game was solid but not perfect.
Second game will fix issues with the first but add in a ton of junk that nobody wants.
Third game will streamline the process taking the parts that worked in 2 with the spirit of 1.
Just look at budokai 3 and tenkaichi 3.
>>340005268
Yeah but I'd still like to keep them separate.
I can only think of one other way.
>>340005159
No, it's a design choice. It's still blue in the latest episode meaning a lot of people along the way had to discuss keeping it blue, unlike when Tori gave kid Trunks blue hair in BoG and they changed it to purple for the movie itself.
>>340005360
But it's not at all, comfy goku doing his thing, tournament saga, etc
>>340005405
It's weird.
Why would you give kid Trunks purple hair but change Future Trunks' hair color? I mean considering that they're essentially the same person I don't see how the change could make sense.
I mean unless Trunks dyes his hair like Bulma's intentionally.
>>340005209
>believing the "Toriyama is senile" meme
He only acts that way to fuck with autist that care too much about DBZ because it doesn't matter how angry they'll get, they'll still give him their money. He also does not care about continuity errors because he's not an autist like you fags, he cares more about writing an entertaining story.
>>340005529
>Why would you give kid Trunks purple hair but change Future Trunks' hair color?Easy way to tell them apart if you're keeping F Trunks around permanently.
>>340005362
>Just look at garbage 3 and garbage 3.
>>340005640
There's always personality and voice, and Future Trunks could also be taller.
Who herebest android
>>340005529
it's possible his hair just changes color over time
My hair was a strong reddish-brown when I was a kid but as I got older it faded to a medium brown
>>340005810
But his hair was still purple at like 20.
>>340005718
You forgot to post a picture of Android 16.
>>340005360
I disagree asshole.
>>340005369
And that way issit loli kai in your lap, have tall time kai put on a strap-on or wish up a dong if you want to go that way and then sit in her lap.Then just start bouncing loli in your lap while tall time kai does the same to you.
Guess who's back?
>>340005718
Second best. Third best is redneck android.
>>340005919
>ME KILL GOKU
>OOPS I DIED
I seriously hope you don't believe this.I'm memeing, Android 16 was great. But 17 is my favourite
the one on the left is best
>>340006060
>>340005718
Cyborgs.
Actual best android is 16.
>>340006129
The other two don't even look like the same person.
>>340006129
I kinda like the slutty center one.
>>340006129
this was meant for >>340004184
>>340005718
that's not 16
but im glad im not the only one that still plays teankaichi 3
>>340006129
one on the right is clearly superior
>>340005860
Different anon but I was blond up until I was about 5 now I'm brown hair. Shit like that can happen.
>>340006340
5 is much different than 20.
>>340006135
He's okay.
At least we can agree no one liked 19.
>>340005860
it has to do with sun exposure. if it wasn't until later in life he started going outside regularly then his hair wouldn't start bleaching until later
>>339995921
What the fuck was edgy about them. Grim things happened. Grim things have always happened in DB.
There's just usually silly shit to balance it out.
>>340006297
>tenkaichi
>good
hahaha no
>>339996626
Yamcha's death wasn't funny when it initially happened. It only became a joke well after the fact, largely due to its iconic nature and impact it had on folks as well as Yamcha's subsequent lack of influence on anything plot relevant
>>340006135
You're right.
>>340006297
I fucking love Tenkaichi 3 so much. I wish I had a physical copy.
Burue hairedo trunks
Which DB grill makes the best futa?
>>340006398
I'm sure they simply fucked up but sayains have a whole thing about their hair and I'm sure half breeds might have some unusual traits that's a cross between the ever changing humans and the seemingly never aging sayains.
>>340006778
Chi-Chi for fucking female Goku
>DBZ gets popular again due to new games and new anime series
>Have to put up with GTfags whining their non canon fan fiction is still shit, unloved and will never get a mention ever again besides a character or mission here and there in the vidya
GTfags please kill yourselves. Thanks.
>>340006594
How do you mod Tenkaichi 3? Does it require emulation the game? My PC can't emulate PS2 or Wii well.
>>340006492
the tone nigga, the tone. DB was basically one big adventure. grim things happened, sure. but you knew they were gonna work out in the end. there was never an actual threat.
then DBZ starts and the first thing we see is Goku getting impaled and killed and the world might end.
it's tense as fuck.
>>340006815
>female
>not regular goku
She can totally just tell him that getting fucked in the butt by girls is what usually happens.
>>340006828
I think you need to emulate it or have a modded PS2. I haven't done it yet though.
>>340006947
>Towa will never kidnap you for messing with her plans and jam her fat cock into your ass repeatedly, day after day as payback for daring to challenge her
>>340006985
I prefer lesbians
I really want to be able to choose my hair when becoming super saiyan.
>>340007106
I don't care, lesbians are trash.
>>340007164
You don't see me trashing your fetishes, immature faggot.
>>340006869
Ok, fair enough
It still didn't feel very edgy, I guess? But then again the term has lost all meaning
>Open thread
>Read thread
>GT absolutely ignored, and when mentioned is shit on
Good thread everyone. Disregard GT.
>>340007218
Lesbians are the most boring shit.
Futa on male is the better fetish.
>>340007332
Futa on male is pretty gay, Futa x Futa or Futa x Female
>>339995129
Please don't overwork Nozawa, Toei. She's too old to be screaming 24/7.
>>340007332
Nigger it's not about what's boring it's about what you like. There's nothing objective aboutmostfetishes.
>>339995784
fuck off
>>340007410
I can't self insert on either of those.
can you fuck off with complaining about edge already
>>340006828
you need an emulator, the .iso of the game and a program called dkz studio
you can find mods here
http://dbztenkaichi2latino.blogspot.mx/p/blog-page.html
most of them were made by a guy who created a latin spanish fandub patch for the game but the link i posted contains his english mods
>poster baiting for replies
>doesnt get a reply
>baits again
>still no reply
lmao
>One of the Patrols involves defeating Broly who has unlocked the Super Saiyajin God Legendary Super Saiyajin God form
>>340005692
>Just look at shit taste and shit taste.
>>339999000
>9000
>9000
>9000
I want a shenron race
>>340007805
>Super Saiyajin God Legendary Super Saiyajin God
>Not "Super Saiyan Devil Super Saiyan"
>le GT is bad meme
>same faggots think Dragon Ball Subpar is good
>>340007303
I'm not a big Dragonball fan. What's wrong with GT? I really like the cell saga. Isn't that right before GT or is that Buu?
>>340007973
>People disagreeing with me is a meme
Are you autistic?
>>340007805
There's actually a joke about that in the latest Super episode. Vegeta mentions what Goku turned into to an alien, and the alien just pauses and asks "WHAT?"
>>340008043
dont reply to the false flagger fag
>>340008030
Buu is before GT.
GT is both awful and non canon.
GT is evil. Disregard and ignore GT, and its minions who spread word of it.
Are there any good DBZ fapfics?
>>340008043
It is a meme, from underage Subpar faggots
>>340008095
>false flagging meme
My lads have been fully wewed
>>340008030
It's great, first half is basically Dragon Ball in space, second half is DBZ part two. Much closer in spirit to Toriyama's work than DBS which he's just shitting out with no effort at all for money
>>340008202______________________________no.
>>340008196
I get the meme, but what's wrong with it? I never watched it. No fights? Kiddie stuff?
I'm genuinely curious.
>That one assblasted GTfag posting
Stay non canon, fag.
>>340008234
>he doesnt use 4chanx
wew indeed
>>340008305
Goku is turned into a kid for absolutely no reason and everybody else is never allowed to do anything.
Like they do even less than they do in super, they also had the nerve to tease adult Gotenks but immediately have Goku go "no you'd still be too weak to fight"
The villains were also all completely retarded.
>>340008093
It's a shame they didn't reuse the joke from the manga to point out how dumb the name was instead. Would've been hilarious actually hearing them try to say it.
>>340008030
GT isn't the worst thing ever, It's jut not that great. To me it still feels like dragonball so I'm okay with it.
>>340008305
Only Mexicans like GT
>>340008305
Breaks a shit ton of established lore rules.
Every character is shit (GT stands for Goku Time)
Shit villains
Shit animation (worse than super): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZIvtkVkzKg
Let that sink in for a moment. Animation worse than Super, which is known for having bad animation.
Its awful in every regard. The story is shit, the animation is shit, the music is shit, the characters are shit.
There is literally nothing good about it. Every design, every fucking plot detail is pure awful.
>>340007973
>meme
people disliked GT when it was new.
>>340008030
The main complaints are:
>continuity quibbles involving the super Dragon balls
>Baby is basically Buu 2.0
>Vegeta's hair
>The Shenrons are lame
>too lighthearted in the early half
>too grim in the second half
>Pan is annoying
>Toriyama didn't write it
Your mileage may vary.
The only good thing about GT is there characters from it show up in games and I can use better characters to bash their heads in.
>>340008335
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
Straight from Toei. Stay assblasted, faggot.
>I will never get to watch the Westwood or Ocean dub of DBZ again
>I will never get to watch the Blue Water dub of GT EVER again
Being a Canuck is suffering
>>340008470
>Every character is shit (GT stands for Goku Time)
Don't forget about "Base form Kid Goku is better then every other transformation"
>>340008569
Toei doesn't get to dictate canon, you shilling faggot.
>>340008551
>there characters from it show up in games and I can use better characters to bash their heads in.
We got GT characters in Xenoverse instead of Mercenary Tao, or any other DB or DBZ character.
GT drags down literally anything that it touches.
>>340008569
Toei is in charge of canon now?
Top kek, you poor, stupid fool. I bet you thought that was a real "gotcha" moment, didn't you?
>>340008665
>I-I-I-I KNOW BETTER THAN THE PRODUCTION COMPANY
Wow, Subpar fags are literally fucking retarded
>>340008470
>his example of "shit animation" is excessive re-use of adequately-drawn sequences
>he thinks that's the same Super's constant Gako and Vigatu QUALITY
That's some tasty bait, my friend.
>>340008730
>T-T-T-T-T-TOEI KNOWS BETTER THAN THE CREATOR
Wow, GT fags are literally fucking brain dead.
>>340008756
>Get BTFO
>B-b-b-baaaaait!
Lol fuck off GTfag, your shitty show will never be mentioned by Z, Super or anything in the series moving forward.
Stay mad, my Mexican friend.
>>340008720
>I KNOW BETTER THAN THE JAPANESE CREATORS XD
>>340008756
No point in arguing with Super shitters, they're literally retarded. Too underage to know that many anime reuse animation to save time, even their beloved Super does it
>>340008842
Off yourself kid
>>340008665
They own the IP, they can dictate whatever the hell they want.
>>340008880
>Toei created DB, DBZ, etc etc
Ok, you're either trolling or you've lost badly.
Post more laughing reaction pictures, it sure covers up how butthurt you are.
>Replying to 3 people at the same time
>Not butthurt
Pick one.
>>339995129
Android 13's hat.
That's all.
>>340008569
Toei mentioned GT because they made it. They're responding to what part of a general timeline they'd be in in terms of their concept, not their canon states.
>>340008924
See anon, the thing is, they can.
But the question is, will anybody bother to listen to them?
>>340008953
>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLY BACK TO PEOPLE WHO REPLIED TO YOU
Stay ass rekt, faggot.
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
>>340009112
Then why does nothing from Super get mentioned in GT?
Also I like how in GT your clothes vanish into or out of your body by fucking changing form. Such amazing animation. So good.
Feel free to save this gif, friend. Its all yours.
>>340008569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZszcH-U5Y&list=FLDWGJjU8fOq8rhqPVYsVybQ&index=8
>there are autistic shounenshitters who believe any iteration of Dragonball is anything other than utter dreck
>there are autistic shounenshitters who believe preferring one spin-off of Dragonball over another somehow makes them better than other autistic shounenshitters
>there are autistic shounenshitters who believe Dragonball has a "canon" when the franchise is run by senile old man who doesn't even remember his stories and a greedy company wanting to squeeze every yen in can out of nostalgiacucks' wallets
Loving Every Laugh. You guys are on the same level as the Sonic fandom.
>>340007908
Play Gargoyle's quest
>>339995129
>A black enemy appears
racists ass moons
>>340009239
>there are autistic shounenshitters who believe Dragonball has a "canon"
It does though.
I appreciate you're a pseudo intellectual, but you surely must realize that just because you don't like something does not invalidate it, right?
>>340009214
Because Super Saiyan Blue is a meme transformation, SSJ4 rekts the fuck out of it any day
>>340009239
>Says that while posting Kamen Rider
You're fucking retarded.
>>340009214
It's amazing how in Dragonball people can just make clothes out of beams. Such amazing animation. So good.
>>340009347
>Pink monkey fur is better than a change of hair color
ok m8
>>340009374
>Clothes beam is the same as a transformation
GT shitters everyone. They know nothing but they MUST speak.
>>340009347
>Tfw the only thing I liked from GT at all was that SSJ4 wasn't just LOL LONGER HAIR GUIZ
>Yet people will defend and say SSG and SSGSSG are better yet they're literally just SSJ1 with blue hair.
Don't get me wrong SSJ4 still had some problems especially with the weird clothing shit going on but atleast it wasn't just a recolor.
I really want to see goku go super saiyan futa.
>>340009504
I fucked up meant to say SSG looks like fucking Kaioken 2.0.
only SSGSS is a straight up recolor. But SSG is pretty lazy.
>>340009504
SSJ4 looks fucking ridiculous, it's like they designed it for Goku and then fucking gave up.
Look at SSJ4 Vegeta and try to tell me that looks good.
>>340009345
>>340009345
Which of the following is canon: The BOG movie or the BOG arc of Super? And elaborate on why the one that is "canon" is canon.
>>340009362
The worst Kamen Rider series still has better writing that anything Toriyama's shat out, DBcuck.
>>340009504
>with the weird clothing shit going
It was literally a lore breaking "for the sake of it" meme transformation.
>Just turn into a monkey bro
>Just learn to control it bro
>Ok now go super saiyan monkey bro
>SUPER SAIYAN MONKEY BRO
>Ok bro now you're SSJ4
Fucking dumb. I don't even like SSJGSS but fuck me is it better than monkey shit.
>>340009537
fuck off to tumblr fag
>>340009603
>DBcuck
Go back to /krg/ and keep bitching about ghostcucks, showacucks and heiseicucks you fucking autist.
>>340009592
I'm not saying it does, all i'm saying is at the very least it wasn't a mere recolor.
>>340009624
Creativity wise it isn't though.
>>340009603
>The BOG movie or the BOG arc of Super?
The anime series has always taken priority over movies. This general rule goes all the way back to very early DBZ, with movies that take place in a time frame that is impossible.
>Goku on earth, using kaioken while Tien is alive.
Literally impossible. Tien is dead when Goku arrives back from training, and when Goku gets to namek and back to Earth (with Tien revived on the way) then he has Super Saiyan.
As a result, the movie literally cant be canon, or it breaks the entire timeline.
So yeah, as a rule, the series always overwrites the movies. Its been this way for years now.
>>340009637
>futa
>tumblr
Is this your first day on /v/?
>>340009818
>>>/d/
trash belongs in the trash
>>340009913
Then go and put yourself in the trash already.
>>340009818
if you think that everybody is gay like you then you are stupid
>>340010019
I'm just telling you that if you think futa is tumblr then you're a fucking retard.
>>340009961
>i know you are but what am I
>>340009818
>>340009913
>>340009961
>>340010015
>>340010019
>>340010070
>>340010084
Fuck off you pair of faggots, we're arguing about DBZ here.
>>340010019
>futa
>gay
Found the casual
>>340009592
its funny because toriyama himself designed ssj4, but no everyone denies it because >not muh canon.
GT wasnt created by Toriyama but SSJ4 Goku was
>>340010112
There are at least 3 faggots here, anon.
>>340010139
>GT wasnt created by Toriyama but SSJ4 Goku was
So? Hes made bad choices before. I'm not saying that SSGSS is some amazing "good" transformation, hell I think its a fucking let down.
But its fucking canon, so its worth talking about. GT is literally just high production fan fiction on par with DB Absolution or whatever the fuck is called, Absalon? Whatever.
>>340010123
m8 if you get off to a dick, you're gay.
Just because it's attached to a female body doesn't change the fact that it's male autonomy. And getting off to male autonomy is infact gay.
>>340010241
>ebin fan fiction meme
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
>>340010112
>>340010123
dickgirl lover calling other prole fags
>>340010139
I thought SSJ4 in itself was designed by Katsuyoshi
>>340009504
SSB was just weird. Finally watched the RoF movie. He just kinda does it with no buildup or tension. So it's basically SSJ with god ki. So I guess he learned how to harness god ki but without the power of holding hands?
Does Super explain this better?
>>340010252
So it's OK to fuck a guy if he had a vagina?
>>340010347
Are you retarded? I'm calling you both fags, I'm not involved in your gay argument.The guy who likes his girls with dicks is gayer than you though, to be honest.
>>340010529
Yes, if he has a vagina then he's a girl.
So it's perfectly straight.
>>340010529
no thats still fucking a guy its fucking gay
>>340010380
In Super Whis trains them to have that God power in their base form, that's why in GT no one goes SSG, also that's why SSJ4 is objectively stronger than any SSG transformations
>>340009504
I appreciate that 4 tried to be an actual transformation. But the way it magically grew or absorbed clothing and its exposed chest and abs is really fucking stupid.
>>340010529yes
This was entirely an argument on technicality anyway.
>>340010529
If it's the vagina itself that makes him arousing to you, then yes.
Otherwise no it's still gay, because it's usually the woman having the dick itself that makes you get a boner.
>>340010581
those tears
>>340010635
>In Super Whis trains them to have that God power in their base form, that's why in GT no one goes SSG
This nigga literally trying to predict a future where his fan fiction can be canon
NEVER EVER, faggot
>>340010380
After going SSG, the god power is absorbed into Goku which allows him to combine it with his normal SSJ power, allowing him to go SSGSSG.
>>340010718
It's not the dick, it's the fact that it feels wrong that gives the boner.
>>340010740
Yeah because you know better than the Production Company that Toriyama himself hired and trusted with his creation, right? Even Toriyama signed off on GT and gave his approval, and for 20 years it was the only ending the series had. Notice how he set Super in between the end of Z and start of GT, because even he knows it's canon.
> Toei Animation released a press statement on July 17, 2012, saying it would be set "between the animation series Z and GT, or in other words from the blank decade between the end of the battle with Majin Boo in chapter 517 of the manga and chapter 518" and calling it part of "the official history of Dragon Ball."[6]
>>340010924
>it was the only ending the series had.
not true, Toriyama signed off on DBO which was supposed to continue DB,and nothing GT was mentioned in it iirc
I don't really care, but Araki does whatever he wants, and so far he hasn't really made any GT references at all.
>>340010901
That's a completely different story then.
Should've specified the aspect that made it arousing to begin with.
Eh, this was entirely based on Semitics and technicality anyway.
>>340010901
ok so here is what you do go to tumblr put in futa and stay there
>>340010589
>>340010589
>>340010718
Okay okay, what if I'm into chicks regardless of if they have dicks or not, but I'm not into dudes even if they have a vagina?
>>340011040
how about you go to tumblr if it triggers you this much, you faggot
>Trunks has blue hair instead of light purple
God damn it
>>340010924
>because even he knows it's canon.
Oh, child.
Look, I've gone through some sources and I've tried to find the most low brow, easy to read shit for you (given that you're a dumb shit)
Even the niggers at Dorkly know whats up. Here you go.
If you want yo ass whooped again, just let me know.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/75051/everything-you-need-to-know-about-dragon-ball-super
>>340011079
you are bisexual
>>340011079
see
>>340011029
Honestly i'm bored and this was pointless anyway.
>>340011079
Would you let said chicks dick you if they asked politely though?
Is GT even canon at this point? Any official statement?
Also SSJ4 Gogeta vs SSB Vegito who wins
If they don't fix the special event triggers and item drop rng there won't be any point to getting the game.
Also, single player needs to be doable without relying solely on beam spam.
>>340011250
nope
>>340011137
Not reading your retarded Cracked article, underage Super fag. If GT wasn't canon Toriyama would have set Super after the end of Z.
>>340011250
Vegetto effortlessly wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSzLBLX204g
To the faggots arguing.
Here is an interview with Akira himself.
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2013/03/akira-toriyama-interview/
GT is not canon. Deal with it.
>>340011017
> thinking some shitty Korean grinding game is canon
I bet you think Xenoverse is canon too
>>340011450
Toriyama wrote the entire background for it, which is much more than can be said for GT.
>>340011450
For a time, it was literally the continuation of the series, Araki was heavily involved in it just like super
Wait hang on.
If GT is canon, why does Freeza never use his golden form in it?
Why is Freeza weak as fuck like he never trained in Super?
Shit nigga, its almost like GT is non canon, lol.
>>340011516
>Araki
>>340011564I'm sorry, I'm tired.
>>340011450
also nigga spent like 5 fucking years working on designs and shit for that game
tfw you play against nothing but mexicans and people who kick you
xenoverse is cancer and dead.
>>340011723
And then it was never localized for literally no reason.
>Your face when even the people who use fucking Yahoo answers know GT ain't canon
>But you share a board with mouth breathers who think it is
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110419201746AAQ5Ajb
>>340011558
Because that is after Whis trains Goku to have the God power in his base form, also Freeza knows his Golden form is shit and that he can't maintain it for any length of time
>>340011783
>Join a room.
>Friends only
>Get kicked.
JESUS CHRIST LEARN HOW TO FUCKING USE THE RESERVE SLOT FUNCTION YOU MONGOLOIDS
>>340011790
Because he made the wrong choice of letting the fucking Koreans play it first, shit never goes right when you let them do shit first, they'll end up fucking up for no reason whatsoever
>>340011870
>Because that is after Whis trains Goku to have the God power in his base form
Source: Your massive hairy ass.
>I CAN SEE THE FUTUREEEEE
>>340011415
>CTRL + F GT
>only results are for the article comments, 0 mention from Toriyama
Nice try
>>340011957
Do you even watch Super faggot? Goku and Vegeta train with Whis after the RoF saga, that's when Whis trains them to harness the God power for their base form
>>340011870
cry more
>>340012047
So then why do they transform at all during the tournament? you fucking mouth breather
I don't understand how you're this dumb
>THEY DON'T NEED TO GO SUPER SAIYAN BLUE AFTER FRIEZA
>WAIT, NO, GOKU JUST WENT SUPER SAIYAN BLUE AFTER FRIEZA, DURING THE TOURNAMENT
>SHUT UP, GT IS CANON, LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU
My fuck child, you're really slow.
>>340012047
are you pretending to be stupid
>>339995474
>pilaf finds the dragon balls
>doesn't wish to rule the world
cmon now toriyama
>>340012224
You can't rule the world for very long if you're old as fuck and likely to die soon.
>>340012224
He can't beat the dogs anon, you don't want to fight the king furry for his title.
you'll unlock his second form and he'll manhandle anyone, even frieza
>>339995784
Goddamn I love that arpeggio keyboard thing that was in every song from this era
>>340011207
I don't know. Not right off the bat, it's not something I'm very interested in having done to me, but maybe.
>>340011207
When I'm horny maybe, but right now thinking about it, it doesn't sound very appealing. It's probably something I'd agree to then immediately regret.
>>340012629
Could even be something you'd immediately agree to and then immediately ask yourself "why didn't I try this earlier"
>>340011175
Calling yourself bisexual for liking chicks with dicks sounds like a good way to confuse people. "Yeah I'm bisexual but only for women with pensies." Either you get called a porn trend fag by actual fag/bi dudes or a tranny chaser.
>>340011870
Frieza is straight out told that he rushed it and if he had trained a bit more in his golden form instead of rushing to fight as soon as he attained it, he wouldn't have been losing energy at even close to the rate he did.
>>340012674
Perhaps. I'm a little afraid to find out, I've never met a chick with a dick that I've known about and there's no way I'd try it with a guy.
>60% of all replies in this thread are all by one master ruseman
>>340012895
Yeah, chick with a dick is the only way I'd go for it either.
>>340012869
>Trying to reason with GTfags
These are people who like fan fiction so much, they go into a thread for official games/series of the thing, and try and push it on to everybody.
GTfags are the "Original Sonic character, do not steal" of the anime world.
>>339995474
>Already confirmed by Toriyama in an interview
Source?
>>340007907
undercooked toast
>>339995129
what the fuck was that last image of vegeta
>>340013721
a nigga can't have ring pops these days?
TRUNKS' HAIR IS NOT BLUE FATHER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>339999000
it is law
Are Goku and the rest just gonna pretend F.Trunks' hair changed for no reason?
>>340015472
It's a retcon, but one I'm fine with. Trunks' hair always fluctuated between shades of purple and blue in the show and old colored pages of the manga. It's officially been purple for a while, but blue suits him and makes him look more like Bulma's son.
>>340015472
>Goku
>pretend
he won't even notice
XV2 Arale when?
>>339999000
>9000
>>340000001
the story
>>340001253
super is worse, its fanfiction tier, theyre not even trying anymore
>>339995129
Is Mai finally going to do the gorilla warfare shit that she was destined to when she put on that commie uniform?
>>340016041
just wait until she shows up as a pinch hitter in the grand multiverse tournament
>>340016490
Can she be put in over Gohan?